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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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So. In my 'real life' I am a single mother. I've got to the stage where I've thought about dating again and when I say dating i mean with a purpose, not just for 'something to do'
Went on a dating site and got a message 'do you go to killing kittens... Yes... Cool we are on the same page.'
Next breath he's telling me he has no interest as he's looking for a monogamous thing. Tres confusion. (I only admitted being on fab as he had mentioned the swingers thing).
I suppose my question is to the men is, would meeting a girl who loves to swing put you off?
Ladies, would you be honest and admit it or keep schtum?
I suppose I enjoy the social side of fab and that's why i'd like to stay and meet someone likeminded... But when to 'unleash the info'?! Xx |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"So. In my 'real life' I am a single mother. I've got to the stage where I've thought about dating again and when I say dating i mean with a purpose, not just for 'something to do'
Went on a dating site and got a message 'do you go to killing kittens... Yes... Cool we are on the same page.'
Next breath he's telling me he has no interest as he's looking for a monogamous thing. Tres confusion. (I only admitted being on fab as he had mentioned the swingers thing).
I suppose my question is to the men is, would meeting a girl who loves to swing put you off?
Ladies, would you be honest and admit it or keep schtum?
I suppose I enjoy the social side of fab and that's why i'd like to stay and meet someone likeminded... But when to 'unleash the info'?! Xx"
He was not what you were looking for. You will find it. Honesty is always the best policy. |
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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago
Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound |
I have admitted it twice with different outcomes but the same result: no romantic relationship.
The first time it led to the man seeing me as 'just' NSA. We see each other occasionally and now I'm taking him to clubs when we meet.
The second time he went very quiet, said he had to think about it and then said he couldn't be with anyone who had such low regard for themselves.
Ultimately, I think it can difficult but if it's the right person your past is just that.
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By *imiUKMan
over a year ago
Hereford |
Whenever I have "unleashed the info" I can't see the people I have been dating for dust! 
Be prepared for random insults too. I've been called "disgusting" more than once... and also, interestingly "Not a real man".... 
Needless to say after a couple of years dating off and on, I can no longer be arsed.... |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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if you want swinging in your relationship then you should mention it.
i'm not into swinging but know what i want and i wouldn't get into any other relationship now. it's making it a lot harder for me to find someone. most people think i'm here to role play relationship stuff so that they can experiement then do one and settle down with someone vanilla, i reckon so anyway. |
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By *imiUKMan
over a year ago
Hereford |
"Personally, if I was on a dating site I wouldn't mention Fab at all.
My past is my past and none of their business how many sexual partners I have had."
I've been told repeatedly never to mention swinging if I want a serious girlfriend.... Problem is, I see it as mildly disingenuous. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I'm already in a relationship and I have dated very little in my life, so from my position of expertise...
If I were single but had been on fab I don't really think I would feel the need to mention it until I was already in a relationship with someone. I just never saw the need to discuss my sex life from the get go in a relationship, anyway. But if someone didn't like it then that would mean they didn't like me and I would think we just weren't right for eachother.
I dunno....that's just how I see it. |
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By *imiUKMan
over a year ago
Hereford |
"Nothing to brag about, nothing to hide either, need to know basis springs to mind for initial meetings"
Yeah, nobody cracks that info out on date 1! Apparently though, it should be before you have had sex or else it's "false advertising" apparently.  |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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I literally would die inside if I felt I was lying to someone though.
I know I dont 'need' fab in my life but I've met some lovely friends through it.. A lot I've never even had sex with |
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By *hav02Man
over a year ago
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you've really got to lay your cards on the table.
There's a bit of a grey line between swinging and "cheating".
Would you be happy if he's your new bf and yet he's going off meeting other women for casual sex...or vice-versa..
You're probably better off going conventional relationship, build trust etc, then consider bringing others into your bedroom for sharing. |
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By *oxy_minxWoman
over a year ago
Scotland - Aberdeen |
"Nothing to brag about, nothing to hide either, need to know basis springs to mind for initial meetings
Yeah, nobody cracks that info out on date 1! Apparently though, it should be before you have had sex or else it's "false advertising" apparently. "
I think that is shite to be honest. My business is my business and I see no need to share past partners etc |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I literally would die inside if I felt I was lying to someone though.
I know I dont 'need' fab in my life but I've met some lovely friends through it.. A lot I've never even had sex with "
maybe don't worry? until you get serious with someone you can have private things you don't tell them about because they don't need to know.
maybe you will miss your fab friends and need them or maybe you'll move on and make different freinds when you find someone?
things can change and so can you, you just don't know what will happen so maybe you'e worrying for nothing? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Ho hum, no. Honestly, I like it when women are comfortable in having their fun. It wouldn't bother me in any way. As long as I get to be in the action though. 
Only concern is... the possibility of STDs. The most exciting part of sex life... |
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By *MaleMan
over a year ago
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Depends what their vanilla life versus swing priority is.
I've spoken to girls seeking a serious relationship however their life & existence was basically swing swing swing. It spelt out a serious relationship, with a purpose would only get in the way of their swinging.
If the shoe was on the other foot I wouldnt expect a female to take the male equivalent serious either.
Not really ideal to discover each other in the vanilla sense. Each to their own of course.
However if a girl was a swinger or ex swinger that alone wouldn't be a put off. It would be fooking hypocritical of me considering I'm familiar with the swing scene |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Nothing to brag about, nothing to hide either, need to know basis springs to mind for initial meetings
Yeah, nobody cracks that info out on date 1! Apparently though, it should be before you have had sex or else it's "false advertising" apparently.
I think that is shite to be honest. My business is my business and I see no need to share past partners etc"
Lack of honesty always catches up in the end. |
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By *oxy_minxWoman
over a year ago
Scotland - Aberdeen |
"Nothing to brag about, nothing to hide either, need to know basis springs to mind for initial meetings
Yeah, nobody cracks that info out on date 1! Apparently though, it should be before you have had sex or else it's "false advertising" apparently.
I think that is shite to be honest. My business is my business and I see no need to share past partners etc
Lack of honesty always catches up in the end."
Why does someone else need to know how many people I have had sex with? I'm 42 for gods sake, surely they know I am not the virgin Mary  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I would leave here readily without mentioning it if I got into a relationship with a guy not from fab.
I'm pondering leaving anyway as I'm not a swinger... |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Nothing to brag about, nothing to hide either, need to know basis springs to mind for initial meetings
Yeah, nobody cracks that info out on date 1! Apparently though, it should be before you have had sex or else it's "false advertising" apparently.
I think that is shite to be honest. My business is my business and I see no need to share past partners etc
Lack of honesty always catches up in the end.
Why does someone else need to know how many people I have had sex with? I'm 42 for gods sake, surely they know I am not the virgin Mary "
Nobody needs to know anything. Do you not find that intimacy requires that you share you and your experiences? |
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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago
Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound |
"Personally, if I was on a dating site I wouldn't mention Fab at all.
My past is my past and none of their business how many sexual partners I have had.
I've been told repeatedly never to mention swinging if I want a serious girlfriend.... Problem is, I see it as mildly disingenuous."
I do too. When I enter a relationship it has to be as 'me' and I would want to share information (both ways) with the right person.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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It is a minefield and I'm in a similar situation. Single mum, would love to date but I find guys are more put off by me having two young children than anything else! If I met someone then I may tell them about fab but what I've got up to in my single life is none of their business. But then if I met someone from fab, it would hopefully give me an opportunity to continue explore the swinging lifestyle that I actually want to really get into. |
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"Personally, if I was on a dating site I wouldn't mention Fab at all.
My past is my past and none of their business how many sexual partners I have had.
I've been told repeatedly never to mention swinging if I want a serious girlfriend.... Problem is, I see it as mildly disingenuous."
Only if you intend to continue swinging, otherwise why divulge your past sexual activities? |
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"I'm already in a relationship and I have dated very little in my life, so from my position of expertise...
If I were single but had been on fab I don't really think I would feel the need to mention it until I was already in a relationship with someone. I just never saw the need to discuss my sex life from the get go in a relationship, anyway. But if someone didn't like it then that would mean they didn't like me and I would think we just weren't right for eachother.
I dunno....that's just how I see it. "
Similar view here. |
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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago
Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound |
"Nothing to brag about, nothing to hide either, need to know basis springs to mind for initial meetings
Yeah, nobody cracks that info out on date 1! Apparently though, it should be before you have had sex or else it's "false advertising" apparently.
I think that is shite to be honest. My business is my business and I see no need to share past partners etc
Lack of honesty always catches up in the end.
Why does someone else need to know how many people I have had sex with? I'm 42 for gods sake, surely they know I am not the virgin Mary "
I wouldn't tell anyone how many people I have had sex with. I stopped counting in my 30s when I reached 21. But, this has been part of my life for six years now. It's one I can give up (I'm considering that right now) but I wouldn't want to give up some of the friends I have made.
A relationship where I lie about how I know people would be wrong for me.
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By *oxy_minxWoman
over a year ago
Scotland - Aberdeen |
"Nothing to brag about, nothing to hide either, need to know basis springs to mind for initial meetings
Yeah, nobody cracks that info out on date 1! Apparently though, it should be before you have had sex or else it's "false advertising" apparently.
I think that is shite to be honest. My business is my business and I see no need to share past partners etc
Lack of honesty always catches up in the end.
Why does someone else need to know how many people I have had sex with? I'm 42 for gods sake, surely they know I am not the virgin Mary
Nobody needs to know anything. Do you not find that intimacy requires that you share you and your experiences?"
Of course share some experiences, such as life experiences but nobody needs to know all and sundry about what I have done sexually and with who, same as I don't need to know theirs either. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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If I were looking to date then I'd be delighted to meet someone who likes to swing. I'd be more than happy to share her when the mood took us.
It seems hypocritical of a man to go swinging but only to want date somebody who doesn't. Would he be happy in a relationship afterwards? And could you trust him to be faithful? |
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"Nothing to brag about, nothing to hide either, need to know basis springs to mind for initial meetings
Yeah, nobody cracks that info out on date 1! Apparently though, it should be before you have had sex or else it's "false advertising" apparently.
I think that is shite to be honest. My business is my business and I see no need to share past partners etc
Lack of honesty always catches up in the end.
Why does someone else need to know how many people I have had sex with? I'm 42 for gods sake, surely they know I am not the virgin Mary "
ive never told anyone how many ive slept with as i dont know. But i think its pretty important they know how i live my life |
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"Nothing to brag about, nothing to hide either, need to know basis springs to mind for initial meetings
Yeah, nobody cracks that info out on date 1! Apparently though, it should be before you have had sex or else it's "false advertising" apparently.
I think that is shite to be honest. My business is my business and I see no need to share past partners etc
Lack of honesty always catches up in the end.
Why does someone else need to know how many people I have had sex with? I'm 42 for gods sake, surely they know I am not the virgin Mary "
We live in an age where people feel the need to share and divulge the minutiae of their lives: no discretion. My other half knows I was a virgin when I married but have made up for lost time. I know his first sexual experience was aged 15. We've shared funny experiences but the nitty gritty is of no importance to either of us. It's how we move on as a couple.
It's worked for us. |
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By *andsonjohnMan
over a year ago
in the eye of the storm |
"So. In my 'real life' I am a single mother. I've got to the stage where I've thought about dating again and when I say dating i mean with a purpose, not just for 'something to do'
Went on a dating site and got a message 'do you go to killing kittens... Yes... Cool we are on the same page.'
Next breath he's telling me he has no interest as he's looking for a monogamous thing. Tres confusion. (I only admitted being on fab as he had mentioned the swingers thing).
I suppose my question is to the men is, would meeting a girl who loves to swing put you off?
Ladies, would you be honest and admit it or keep schtum?
I suppose I enjoy the social side of fab and that's why i'd like to stay and meet someone likeminded... But when to 'unleash the info'?! Xx"
your asking this question in the wrong place because lets be honest here swinging is only excepted by those who swing elsewhere its frowned upon at the very least.
I will say this all the vanilla normal friends I know by that I mean strictly one woman guys would never consider entering to any sort of relationship with a woman who was or is a member of the swinging scene or the club scene.
please don't shot me for telling you this but I can assure you all the vanilla guys girls and couples I know think this way and have very low opinions of swingers be them single men couples or single women . |
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By *oxy_minxWoman
over a year ago
Scotland - Aberdeen |
"Nothing to brag about, nothing to hide either, need to know basis springs to mind for initial meetings
Yeah, nobody cracks that info out on date 1! Apparently though, it should be before you have had sex or else it's "false advertising" apparently.
I think that is shite to be honest. My business is my business and I see no need to share past partners etc
Lack of honesty always catches up in the end.
Why does someone else need to know how many people I have had sex with? I'm 42 for gods sake, surely they know I am not the virgin Mary
We live in an age where people feel the need to share and divulge the minutiae of their lives: no discretion. My other half knows I was a virgin when I married but have made up for lost time. I know his first sexual experience was aged 15. We've shared funny experiences but the nitty gritty is of no importance to either of us. It's how we move on as a couple.
It's worked for us."
Exactly! This is how I see things also  |
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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago
Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound |
"Nothing to brag about, nothing to hide either, need to know basis springs to mind for initial meetings
Yeah, nobody cracks that info out on date 1! Apparently though, it should be before you have had sex or else it's "false advertising" apparently.
I think that is shite to be honest. My business is my business and I see no need to share past partners etc
Lack of honesty always catches up in the end.
Why does someone else need to know how many people I have had sex with? I'm 42 for gods sake, surely they know I am not the virgin Mary
We live in an age where people feel the need to share and divulge the minutiae of their lives: no discretion. My other half knows I was a virgin when I married but have made up for lost time. I know his first sexual experience was aged 15. We've shared funny experiences but the nitty gritty is of no importance to either of us. It's how we move on as a couple.
It's worked for us."
But you met through here so there is some understanding that this is what you have been doing.
I'm not talking about sharing the intimate details of how many I have had, how they have had me etc. but about being open that this has been part of my past. Not on a first or second date but at the point when you have to make that decision to either go for it or walk away from it.
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"Nothing to brag about, nothing to hide either, need to know basis springs to mind for initial meetings"
I agree - a new relationship starts a new chapter of your life. You then construct what your terms are for it together. The past is just great experience. |
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By *imiUKMan
over a year ago
Hereford |
"Nothing to brag about, nothing to hide either, need to know basis springs to mind for initial meetings
Yeah, nobody cracks that info out on date 1! Apparently though, it should be before you have had sex or else it's "false advertising" apparently.
I think that is shite to be honest. My business is my business and I see no need to share past partners etc"
I don't think anyone has asked me how many partners I've had or what I've done.
Re: "false advertising" - it's more that people seem to feel that if I've swung/been on here, I'm not a "nice" person, because nice people don't do that, and i'm definitley a "player" who was only after a quick shag, and who couldn't be trusted to be let out of her sight because I'm unable to control myself and would immediatley be fucking some random.
This is not the opinion of just one girl by the way - as a poster above said, "normal" people have a pretty low opinion of us.
Also; I really wouldn't care if I swing with any girlfriends or not - I do tend to say to them that I've only ever swung as a single, so not sure if I'd be able to get my head around it as a couple. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Nothing to brag about, nothing to hide either, need to know basis springs to mind for initial meetings
Yeah, nobody cracks that info out on date 1! Apparently though, it should be before you have had sex or else it's "false advertising" apparently.
I think that is shite to be honest. My business is my business and I see no need to share past partners etc
Lack of honesty always catches up in the end.
Why does someone else need to know how many people I have had sex with? I'm 42 for gods sake, surely they know I am not the virgin Mary
Nobody needs to know anything. Do you not find that intimacy requires that you share you and your experiences?
Of course share some experiences, such as life experiences but nobody needs to know all and sundry about what I have done sexually and with who, same as I don't need to know theirs either. "
I prefer a relationship which is open to communication. That includes what I have done and what I want to do.
Without honest communication, it will not work. |
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I don't think there's any point in starting a new relationship if you have to hide part of yourself - whether that's a part that's in the past or something you want to continue. So in my view, honesty is always best.
After I got divorced and was ready to date again I was adamant that I wouldn't settle for someone who wouldn't accept me as I am. And in truth I never expected to find 'the one'. I put just enough on my profile to let people in the lifestyle know that I was a swinger and was upfront about it with all my dates. Most took it as an instant invite to shag! (And we're very much disappointed) But eventually I met the wonderful Flames and I think I'm finally getting the (kinky) happily ever after that I never thought could exist.
So please don't lose heart. Dating sucks! But keep looking, be true to yourself, and don't settle. Really hope you find what you're looking for.
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It's a very confusing subject 
For me, the last thing I want to do is end up in a vanilla relationship with one man. Particularly if I have to hide my past and explain away some very good male friends.
But as a 'swinger' you don't expect to get a relationship from Fab. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Most of the men I liked on POF were already on here!!!! "
they still only want sex on there though i've found.
and coz my relationship filters are different to my fuck filters they think it's ok to ask me for a fuck.  |
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Presumably if someone isn't on Fab and they're looking to date they're looking for monogamy. It's easy to see why they wouldn't be happy to date a person if they think that person is sleeping with others.
Fortunately for us we've seen the light... Lol
Conversely we're hoping to find a gf who wants to date a couple!!! Never know!   |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Nothing to brag about, nothing to hide either, need to know basis springs to mind for initial meetings
Yeah, nobody cracks that info out on date 1! Apparently though, it should be before you have had sex or else it's "false advertising" apparently.
I think that is shite to be honest. My business is my business and I see no need to share past partners etc
Lack of honesty always catches up in the end.
Why does someone else need to know how many people I have had sex with? I'm 42 for gods sake, surely they know I am not the virgin Mary
Nobody needs to know anything. Do you not find that intimacy requires that you share you and your experiences?
Of course share some experiences, such as life experiences but nobody needs to know all and sundry about what I have done sexually and with who, same as I don't need to know theirs either.
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I don't tell anyone about my past, it's none of their business. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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My advice would be keep secret until you form a relationship then make a decision if you still want to swing. It would put me off to begin with but the right woman could easily convince me. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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My advice would be keep secret until you form a relationship then make a decision if you still want to swing. It would put me off to begin with but the right woman could easily convince me. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"So. In my 'real life' I am a single mother. I've got to the stage where I've thought about dating again and when I say dating i mean with a purpose, not just for 'something to do'
Went on a dating site and got a message 'do you go to killing kittens... Yes... Cool we are on the same page.'
Next breath he's telling me he has no interest as he's looking for a monogamous thing. Tres confusion. (I only admitted being on fab as he had mentioned the swingers thing).
I suppose my question is to the men is, would meeting a girl who loves to swing put you off?
Ladies, would you be honest and admit it or keep schtum?
I suppose I enjoy the social side of fab and that's why i'd like to stay and meet someone likeminded... But when to 'unleash the info'?! Xx"
If you meet someone and you tell them about your past. It shouldn't be a problem because we all have a past, whether it's good or bad.
If a person don't like you because of your past. Then they're not right for you.
Some men pretend to be all perfect and they turnout to be the worst ones. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Nothing to brag about, nothing to hide either, need to know basis springs to mind for initial meetings
I agree - a new relationship starts a new chapter of your life. You then construct what your terms are for it together. The past is just great experience."
Boom. |
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I'd date you in a heartbeat OP of I lived anywhere near Wakefield. Or at least, I'd ask you out.
I think that you need to ask yourself two questions. Do you think things are going somewhere? And do you want to continue swinging.
If the answer to either is no then you're free to keep your last private. It's no one's business but yours.
And as others have said, if he has objections then he cant be the guy for you.
Personaly though I wouldn't object, I'd actually quite like it.
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I try my best to go into any possible romance on the honest and even keel, I talk about my past, swinging and general stuff like this which could scare somebody else off followed by the sentence... "If you want me to delete my account just say"
None have asked me to delete but it's been the cause of most breakups, as they get it in their minds that because I have met couples then I must always be doing it.
But honesty will become happiness long before hiding the past will. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I don't date but if I were to then I would be honest. I've nothing to hide nor anything to be ashamed of. If said person had issue with my past then he's not the person for me. "
I concur, I love the sexual freedom and confidence that swinging has given me. I can't imagine myself not swinging now. To find someone on or off fab who is happy for me to continue meets on my own or together would be great. we are all consenting adults, nothing to be ashamed of, even though society as a whole takes a dim view of it.
Life would be more fun if less people judged and more people got involved! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I'd love to have a relationship with a female swinger - preferably a kinky one  . That said, if I had to chose between swinging and a monogamous relationship, I'd pick the relationship in a heartbeat. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"So. In my 'real life' I am a single mother. I've got to the stage where I've thought about dating again and when I say dating i mean with a purpose, not just for 'something to do'
Went on a dating site and got a message 'do you go to killing kittens... Yes... Cool we are on the same page.'
Next breath he's telling me he has no interest as he's looking for a monogamous thing. Tres confusion. (I only admitted being on fab as he had mentioned the swingers thing).
I suppose my question is to the men is, would meeting a girl who loves to swing put you off?
Ladies, would you be honest and admit it or keep schtum?
I suppose I enjoy the social side of fab and that's why i'd like to stay and meet someone likeminded... But when to 'unleash the info'?! Xx"
Do you meen swinging together or just him being ok with you socilizing on here?
If i was single again i would be looking for a partner to join in and play . |
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What i dont get. How can you have a complete relationship whilst hiding stuff.
Im guessing if your using this site for casual sex thats one thing but if its in your make uo its another.
Plus i guess there was more important things i had to sit down and discuss before i got to involved in a relationship |
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I wouldn't say anything about fab
I'm on a dating site too, I keep both sites separate
I wouldn't mind a relationship but I'm not gonna be nun while waiting for one |
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I'd prefer a relationship with someone who would give me unconditional love anyway.
Like it wouldn't matter about my past anyway because he'd really be capable of loiving me no matter what. I think it's a had love to give for a lot of people. |
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It's your lifestyle choice .... Just liking italian food, exercise bunny or a particular car you might drive ...... It's part of you and makes up the wonderful person you are ..... A partner with similar lifestyle values as you means a more open and shared relationship if u r seeking that.
Don't waste time if the reaction is negative - move on.....
NEXT -
......millions of great open minded fellows out there xxx
Be excited X |
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I am ultimately looking for the real thing. Just enjoying myself in the meantime.
I really envy those couples whose relationships are rock solid. Love and devoted to each other but still play together. Not separately.
They are the lucky ones. No cheating. No lies. And if there was no more swinging they would be enough |
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"So. In my 'real life' I am a single mother. I've got to the stage where I've thought about dating again and when I say dating i mean with a purpose, not just for 'something to do'
Went on a dating site and got a message 'do you go to killing kittens... Yes... Cool we are on the same page.'
Next breath he's telling me he has no interest as he's looking for a monogamous thing. Tres confusion. (I only admitted being on fab as he had mentioned the swingers thing).
I suppose my question is to the men is, would meeting a girl who loves to swing put you off?
Ladies, would you be honest and admit it or keep schtum?
I suppose I enjoy the social side of fab and that's why i'd like to stay and meet someone likeminded... But when to 'unleash the info'?! Xx"
for me I'll rather have a nice female partner and live a normal life and be happy just finding the right person who works drives and someone who you click with and have a mutal attraction is these hard days,no offence but there's no way I would want to see her with anyone else. |
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It's a tricky one. I've thought about coming off here and going back on the dating scene many times, but my ultimate would be to have a fully committed relationship that included swinging together occasionally too.....and at the moment I'm too much of a chicken to brave trying out that conversation with someone in the vanilla dating world xx |
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"It's a tricky one. I've thought about coming off here and going back on the dating scene many times, but my ultimate would be to have a fully committed relationship that included swinging together occasionally too.....and at the moment I'm too much of a chicken to brave trying out that conversation with someone in the vanilla dating world xx"
I think some would like that in a ideal world if you have a 100 percent happy relationship with swinging added if it's 100 percent what you both want obviously person depending,but dating is tough work Of course we all love a bit of kink otherwise we wouldn't be here but I suppose you don't know till you try..... |
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as i mention it in my profile. 