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Who determines who's ugly and who's not?
What an odd question. 
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Who determines who's ugly and who's not?
What an odd question.
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Who determines who's ugly and who's not?
What an odd question.
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"I saw this too. I think it totally depends on the type of person you are. For sociable people who love attention then being attractive will be an advantage. For shy people who hate being noticed being attractive would be a bit of a curse."  | |||
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"I do think whilst the doors might open easier for those who are attractive it can also mean they have to work harder to prove they are more than just a pretty face." | |||
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Who determines who's ugly and who's not?
What an odd question.
Agreed,it's all subjective,some who think they are attractive are actually unattractive to others "I totally agree | |||
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Who determines who's ugly and who's not?
What an odd question.
Agreed,it's all subjective,some who think they are attractive are actually unattractive to others "All this | |||
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"Okay if i'm being serious it's a very good question and one that has been pondered and researched for eons. Attractiveness is not simply about facial perfection. It comes in movement, dress , demeanour and it is as important as FUCK in getting on in life.... To be 'attractive' in it's wider sense , is to appeal to others AND that is the key to success. Now all the dirty, sweaty hairy ugly fat fucks to the back of the queue pls. " | |||
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Who determines who's ugly and who's not?
What an odd question.
Agreed,it's all subjective,some who think they are attractive are actually unattractive to others
I totally agree "I wonder where they got the statistics from. It just seems odd. Even more odd that it's never crossed my mind to think well I didn't get that [insert thing here] because I'm ugly or I got [insert thing here] because I'm super gorgeous.
It would never come into my head to think in those terms. I remember my Mum telling me people wouldn't employ someone who's fat. Well that's utter shite cause I've been offered every job I've interviewed for.
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"Okay if i'm being serious it's a very good question and one that has been pondered and researched for eons. Attractiveness is not simply about facial perfection. It comes in movement, dress , demeanour and it is as important as FUCK in getting on in life.... " | |||
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"People's tastes are too varied to say. I've never noticed and advantage or disadvantage." Nor me, maybe only at school! | |||
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"yes it is people like you more if you are attractive." What utter rubbish,do you really think people like you more if you are attractive,or do you think maybe people put honesty,integrity,genuine and respectful before the being attractive bit | |||
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"Confidence, that's is all "Does not always ring true if you have a face like a bag of spanners | |||
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"yes it is people like you more if you are attractive. What utter rubbish,do you really think people like you more if you are attractive,or do you think maybe people put honesty,integrity,genuine and respectful before the being attractive bit " You would hope so. | |||
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Who determines who's ugly and who's not?
What an odd question.
Agreed,it's all subjective,some who think they are attractive are actually unattractive to others
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I wonder where they got the statistics from. It just seems odd. Even more odd that it's never crossed my mind to think well I didn't get that [insert thing here] because I'm ugly or I got [insert thing here] because I'm super gorgeous.
It would never come into my head to think in those terms. I remember my Mum telling me people wouldn't employ someone who's fat. Well that's utter shite cause I've been offered every job I've interviewed for.
"I'm with you on it never entering your head to think that. I read some of the comments on the thread and a few said about statistics (no odea where from) and I'd say the thread was more leaning towards agreeing with the question. | |||
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"Difficult to answer as many unattractive people have an attractive wrapping." And visa versa | |||
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"Difficult to answer as many unattractive people have an attractive wrapping." | |||
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"I just saw this on the 'other' forum! Attractiveness is so hugely subjective ... it's probably nearer the truth to say that life is harder for people who don't *believe* they're attractive because a lack of self esteem and/or confidence can hold you back in all sorts of ways (friendships, relationships, career choices etc ... e.g. you 'settle' because you don't think you're worth anything better and you're scared to aim high). And that people who may not be 'conventionally' attractive but who are genuinely happy in themselves not only give off good vibes which in turn draw other positive people to them and make it more likely that they'll experience contentment, but also don't have fear holding them back. Or something like that ... Ms G" | |||
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"yes it is people like you more if you are attractive. What utter rubbish,do you really think people like you more if you are attractive,or do you think maybe people put honesty,integrity,genuine and respectful before the being attractive bit " Yes. | |||
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"On an unscientific basis I think you just need to read forum responses to know this is true. " based sometimes though on the perception of attractiveness, if that makes sense. | |||
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"People respond more positively to an attractive person, they smile more when talking to them and are more willing to help. Hundreds of years ago when I was a student a petite, blonde, very beautiful friend of mine broke down in her convertible just by the clock tower in Brighton. She jumped out of the car and without her saying a word about fifteen men appeared to help her. I'm sure that had she been 50, fat and warty a couple of men would have helped but nowhere near as many." Good point. A lot of people respond positively too 'more attractive' men/women ...which is shit by the way | |||
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"I just saw this on the 'other' forum! Attractiveness is so hugely subjective ... it's probably nearer the truth to say that life is harder for people who don't *believe* they're attractive because a lack of self esteem and/or confidence can hold you back in all sorts of ways (friendships, relationships, career choices etc ... e.g. you 'settle' because you don't think you're worth anything better and you're scared to aim high). And that people who may not be 'conventionally' attractive but who are genuinely happy in themselves not only give off good vibes which in turn draw other positive people to them and make it more likely that they'll experience contentment, but also don't have fear holding them back. Or something like that ... Ms G" Yep! I agree with that. Again reading the forums and the posts that ooze low self esteem bear that out. | |||
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"On an unscientific basis I think you just need to read forum responses to know this is true. based sometimes though on the perception of attractiveness, if that makes sense." Totally agree. The perception is paramount. In most replies people are confusing 'attractiveness' with 'good looking' ... Surely it all depends on what attracts us to a person. The idea is almost oxymoronic... | |||
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"yes it is people like you more if you are attractive. What utter rubbish,do you really think people like you more if you are attractive,or do you think maybe people put honesty,integrity,genuine and respectful before the being attractive bit Yes. " Then that says more about the person who does the liking than the supposed attractive person | |||
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"Yes to the first bit I mean. People do like you more if you are attractive. " Define attractive | |||
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"Like it or not everybody in life has some kind of limitation whether it's physical, mental, aesthetic, monetary, the list goes on and on. Crying about how life isn't fair because you aren't pretty enough, thin enough, wealthy enough just shows that what you actually are is not confident enough in your own abilities to get where you want to be. The most successful people in the world are rarely the "beautiful people", unless you count success in Instagram followers these days. Mrs x" Spot on | |||
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"People respond more positively to an attractive person, they smile more when talking to them and are more willing to help. Hundreds of years ago when I was a student a petite, blonde, very beautiful friend of mine broke down in her convertible just by the clock tower in Brighton. She jumped out of the car and without her saying a word about fifteen men appeared to help her. I'm sure that had she been 50, fat and warty a couple of men would have helped but nowhere near as many. Good point. A lot of people respond positively too 'more attractive' men/women ...which is shit by the way" It's totally shit and can cause problems for people at both ends of the 'attractiveness' spectrum. I have 2 sisters, one who is beautiful and one who has cerebral palsy is not conventionally attractive. The beautiful one's self-esteem is determined by how she looks, and is very uncomfortable if she feels she's not the most attractive woman in the room. She's found dealing with baby-weight really difficult and has become quite self-loathing. The other sister has had boyfriends in the past who have demanded their relationship be kept secret as he's ashamed of her looks. | |||
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"yes it is people like you more if you are attractive. What utter rubbish,do you really think people like you more if you are attractive,or do you think maybe people put honesty,integrity,genuine and respectful before the being attractive bit Yes. Then that says more about the person who does the liking than the supposed attractive person " Really. What EXACTLY does it say about them ? | |||
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"Yes to the first bit I mean. People do like you more if you are attractive. Define attractive " I think though there are some people who are 'classically attractive' ~ might not be my type but I can see why others think they are. Obviously I'm referring to looks alone. | |||
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"On an unscientific basis I think you just need to read forum responses to know this is true. based sometimes though on the perception of attractiveness, if that makes sense." Yep! But the more popular therefore perceived as attractive forum members will get many more positive responses than a new, young male for instance who will often be either ignored or "bullied". We're pack animals with survival of the fittest and hard wired into us. | |||
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Who determines who's ugly and who's not?
What an odd question.
"Everyone has different ideas of what is attractive and what isn't. As already stated it's subjective. But then there is the idea of what is attractive wish tall blonde and blue eyed for women or tall dark and classicly hansome for guys | |||
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"Like it or not everybody in life has some kind of limitation whether it's physical, mental, aesthetic, monetary, the list goes on and on. Crying about how life isn't fair because you aren't pretty enough, thin enough, wealthy enough just shows that what you actually are is not confident enough in your own abilities to get where you want to be. The most successful people in the world are rarely the "beautiful people", unless you count success in Instagram followers these days. Mrs x" I saw a great quote re Instagram / followers the other day as people are becoming obsessed with the amount of Likes received :- "Popularity and quality are often two different things" slightly off tact but it's related to a degree. | |||
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"yes it is people like you more if you are attractive. What utter rubbish,do you really think people like you more if you are attractive,or do you think maybe people put honesty,integrity,genuine and respectful before the being attractive bit Yes. Then that says more about the person who does the liking than the supposed attractive person Really. What EXACTLY does it say about them ? " Shallow | |||
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"On an unscientific basis I think you just need to read forum responses to know this is true. based sometimes though on the perception of attractiveness, if that makes sense. Yep! But the more popular therefore perceived as attractive forum members will get many more positive responses than a new, young male for instance who will often be either ignored or "bullied". We're pack animals with survival of the fittest and hard wired into us." Very true, I do roll my eyes on many occasion when a popular person says the same as someone else and is either ignored or put down. | |||
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"Like it or not everybody in life has some kind of limitation whether it's physical, mental, aesthetic, monetary, the list goes on and on. Crying about how life isn't fair because you aren't pretty enough, thin enough, wealthy enough just shows that what you actually are is not confident enough in your own abilities to get where you want to be. The most successful people in the world are rarely the "beautiful people", unless you count success in Instagram followers these days. Mrs x" | |||
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"Yes to the first bit I mean. People do like you more if you are attractive. Define attractive I think though there are some people who are 'classically attractive' ~ might not be my type but I can see why others think they are. Obviously I'm referring to looks alone." Agreed but there are other levels of attractiveness | |||
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"People respond more positively to an attractive person, they smile more when talking to them and are more willing to help. Hundreds of years ago when I was a student a petite, blonde, very beautiful friend of mine broke down in her convertible just by the clock tower in Brighton. She jumped out of the car and without her saying a word about fifteen men appeared to help her. I'm sure that had she been 50, fat and warty a couple of men would have helped but nowhere near as many. Good point. A lot of people respond positively too 'more attractive' men/women ...which is shit by the way It's totally shit and can cause problems for people at both ends of the 'attractiveness' spectrum. I have 2 sisters, one who is beautiful and one who has cerebral palsy is not conventionally attractive. The beautiful one's self-esteem is determined by how she looks, and is very uncomfortable if she feels she's not the most attractive woman in the room. She's found dealing with baby-weight really difficult and has become quite self-loathing. The other sister has had boyfriends in the past who have demanded their relationship be kept secret as he's ashamed of her looks. "  about the boyfriend! | |||
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"Like it or not everybody in life has some kind of limitation whether it's physical, mental, aesthetic, monetary, the list goes on and on. Crying about how life isn't fair because you aren't pretty enough, thin enough, wealthy enough just shows that what you actually are is not confident enough in your own abilities to get where you want to be. The most successful people in the world are rarely the "beautiful people", unless you count success in Instagram followers these days. Mrs x I saw a great quote re Instagram / followers the other day as people are becoming obsessed with the amount of Likes received :- "Popularity and quality are often two different things" slightly off tact but it's related to a degree." | |||
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"yes it is people like you more if you are attractive. What utter rubbish,do you really think people like you more if you are attractive,or do you think maybe people put honesty,integrity,genuine and respectful before the being attractive bit Yes. Then that says more about the person who does the liking than the supposed attractive person Really. What EXACTLY does it say about them ? Shallow " People "are" shallow. Preference for attractive people is built in to society or we would be complimenting people on their personal qualities rather than their looks first, dating sites wouldn't need photos just character witnesses, men's heads would turn when a woman walked past carrying a list of personal achievements. I don't think anybody is saying that being attractive is all that matters to anybody but it helps with first impressions which means it's slightly easier for attractive people to make their way in the world. | |||
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"yes it is people like you more if you are attractive. What utter rubbish,do you really think people like you more if you are attractive,or do you think maybe people put honesty,integrity,genuine and respectful before the being attractive bit Yes. Then that says more about the person who does the liking than the supposed attractive person Really. What EXACTLY does it say about them ? Shallow " So to be attracted to someone you find attractive is shallow ? and 'deep' people resist being attracted to people they are attracted to in case other people think they lack integrity, honesty, respect and genuineness ? Is that close to what you mean ? C'mon Esmerelda never really had the hots for Quasimodo as lovely as he was. He rarely left his bell tower cos of how he looked ! | |||
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"Like it or not everybody in life has some kind of limitation whether it's physical, mental, aesthetic, monetary, the list goes on and on. Crying about how life isn't fair because you aren't pretty enough, thin enough, wealthy enough just shows that what you actually are is not confident enough in your own abilities to get where you want to be. The most successful people in the world are rarely the "beautiful people", unless you count success in Instagram followers these days. Mrs x I saw a great quote re Instagram / followers the other day as people are becoming obsessed with the amount of Likes received :- "Popularity and quality are often two different things" slightly off tact but it's related to a degree. "Same on here with being on front page of hot pics....some see it as an obsession to be on there (feel free to fab our pics as many times as you can please please please PLEASE) only joking..  | |||
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"I do think whilst the doors might open easier for those who are attractive it can also mean they have to work harder to prove they are more than just a pretty face." Very true! | |||
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"Beauty is in the eye of the beholder Dawn French Oh yes, Katie Price not while there are dogs in the street" So you're treating the person you find more attractive better than the one you don't. | |||
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"I just saw this on the 'other' forum! Attractiveness is so hugely subjective ... it's probably nearer the truth to say that life is harder for people who don't *believe* they're attractive because a lack of self esteem and/or confidence can hold you back in all sorts of ways (friendships, relationships, career choices etc ... e.g. you 'settle' because you don't think you're worth anything better and you're scared to aim high). And that people who may not be 'conventionally' attractive but who are genuinely happy in themselves not only give off good vibes which in turn draw other positive people to them and make it more likely that they'll experience contentment, but also don't have fear holding them back. Or something like that ... Ms G" | |||
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"yes it is people like you more if you are attractive. What utter rubbish,do you really think people like you more if you are attractive,or do you think maybe people put honesty,integrity,genuine and respectful before the being attractive bit Yes. Then that says more about the person who does the liking than the supposed attractive person Really. What EXACTLY does it say about them ? Shallow So to be attracted to someone you find attractive is shallow ? and 'deep' people resist being attracted to people they are attracted to in case other people think they lack integrity, honesty, respect and genuineness ? Is that close to what you mean ? C'mon Esmerelda never really had the hots for Quasimodo as lovely as he was. He rarely left his bell tower cos of how he looked !" But he was a damn good bell ringer!! He made it work for him | |||
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"It's an interesting question that's hard to answer but all I can say as someone who's been on both sides of the physical attractiveness divide was that I never suffered when I looked unattractive (or what society generally considers unattractive) since I may be quiet but I am confident in my own abilities and own self. The only discernible difference weight loss (and the ensuing apparently more attractive 'look' I now have) has made to my daily life is that drivers now stop to beckon me across the side roads more often on my daily walk to work. Noticeably so. But I am also wearing brighter colours since I have a wider range of outfit choices so it could be that factor." We do that so we can get a good look at you as you cross the road | |||
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"Like it or not everybody in life has some kind of limitation whether it's physical, mental, aesthetic, monetary, the list goes on and on. Crying about how life isn't fair because you aren't pretty enough, thin enough, wealthy enough just shows that what you actually are is not confident enough in your own abilities to get where you want to be. The most successful people in the world are rarely the "beautiful people", unless you count success in Instagram followers these days. Mrs x I saw a great quote re Instagram / followers the other day as people are becoming obsessed with the amount of Likes received :- "Popularity and quality are often two different things" slightly off tact but it's related to a degree.
Same on here with being on front page of hot pics....some see it as an obsession to be on there (feel free to fab our pics as many times as you can please please please PLEASE) only joking.."Yes it can be related to here as well which is why I can look at hot pics and think at times 'that's not an attractive photo" but 1000+ others beg to differ, or do they ~ are they fab'ing regardless as the person is popular. | |||
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"Like it or not everybody in life has some kind of limitation whether it's physical, mental, aesthetic, monetary, the list goes on and on. Crying about how life isn't fair because you aren't pretty enough, thin enough, wealthy enough just shows that what you actually are is not confident enough in your own abilities to get where you want to be. The most successful people in the world are rarely the "beautiful people", unless you count success in Instagram followers these days. Mrs x I saw a great quote re Instagram / followers the other day as people are becoming obsessed with the amount of Likes received :- "Popularity and quality are often two different things" slightly off tact but it's related to a degree.
Same on here with being on front page of hot pics....some see it as an obsession to be on there (feel free to fab our pics as many times as you can please please please PLEASE) only joking..
Yes it can be related to here as well which is why I can look at hot pics and think at times 'that's not an attractive photo" but 1000+ others beg to differ, or do they ~ are they fab'ing regardless as the person is popular.
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"yes it is people like you more if you are attractive. What utter rubbish,do you really think people like you more if you are attractive,or do you think maybe people put honesty,integrity,genuine and respectful before the being attractive bit Yes. Then that says more about the person who does the liking than the supposed attractive person Really. What EXACTLY does it say about them ? Shallow So to be attracted to someone you find attractive is shallow ? and 'deep' people resist being attracted to people they are attracted to in case other people think they lack integrity, honesty, respect and genuineness ? Is that close to what you mean ? C'mon Esmerelda never really had the hots for Quasimodo as lovely as he was. He rarely left his bell tower cos of how he looked !" No you said people are liked more because they are attractive,if you are attracted to someone who is attractive that's fine but certainly don't buy into this attractive people are liked more... | |||
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"yes it is people like you more if you are attractive. What utter rubbish,do you really think people like you more if you are attractive,or do you think maybe people put honesty,integrity,genuine and respectful before the being attractive bit Yes. Then that says more about the person who does the liking than the supposed attractive person Really. What EXACTLY does it say about them ? Shallow So to be attracted to someone you find attractive is shallow ? and 'deep' people resist being attracted to people they are attracted to in case other people think they lack integrity, honesty, respect and genuineness ? Is that close to what you mean ? C'mon Esmerelda never really had the hots for Quasimodo as lovely as he was. He rarely left his bell tower cos of how he looked ! But he was a damn good bell ringer!! He made it work for him "I have to agree. Like most unattractive people he rang his own bell more times than he had it rung for him ! | |||
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"Like it or not everybody in life has some kind of limitation whether it's physical, mental, aesthetic, monetary, the list goes on and on. Crying about how life isn't fair because you aren't pretty enough, thin enough, wealthy enough just shows that what you actually are is not confident enough in your own abilities to get where you want to be. The most successful people in the world are rarely the "beautiful people", unless you count success in Instagram followers these days. Mrs x I saw a great quote re Instagram / followers the other day as people are becoming obsessed with the amount of Likes received :- "Popularity and quality are often two different things" slightly off tact but it's related to a degree.
Same on here with being on front page of hot pics....some see it as an obsession to be on there (feel free to fab our pics as many times as you can please please please PLEASE) only joking..
Yes it can be related to here as well which is why I can look at hot pics and think at times 'that's not an attractive photo" but 1000+ others beg to differ, or do they ~ are they fab'ing regardless as the person is popular.
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"Like it or not everybody in life has some kind of limitation whether it's physical, mental, aesthetic, monetary, the list goes on and on. Crying about how life isn't fair because you aren't pretty enough, thin enough, wealthy enough just shows that what you actually are is not confident enough in your own abilities to get where you want to be. The most successful people in the world are rarely the "beautiful people", unless you count success in Instagram followers these days. Mrs x I saw a great quote re Instagram / followers the other day as people are becoming obsessed with the amount of Likes received :- "Popularity and quality are often two different things" slightly off tact but it's related to a degree.
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"yes it is people like you more if you are attractive. What utter rubbish,do you really think people like you more if you are attractive,or do you think maybe people put honesty,integrity,genuine and respectful before the being attractive bit Yes. Then that says more about the person who does the liking than the supposed attractive person Really. What EXACTLY does it say about them ? Shallow So to be attracted to someone you find attractive is shallow ? and 'deep' people resist being attracted to people they are attracted to in case other people think they lack integrity, honesty, respect and genuineness ? Is that close to what you mean ? C'mon Esmerelda never really had the hots for Quasimodo as lovely as he was. He rarely left his bell tower cos of how he looked ! No you said people are liked more because they are attractive,if you are attracted to someone who is attractive that's fine but certainly don't buy into this attractive people are liked more..." But .... they are. If a set of mugshots are sorted into 'trustworthy' and 'untrustworthy' .... the ugly ones go in the second set.... every time. | |||
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"We couldn't possibly answer that...we don't associate with unattractive people. . "Neither do I so I am afraid I cannot respond to your post.... | |||
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"yes it is people like you more if you are attractive. What utter rubbish,do you really think people like you more if you are attractive,or do you think maybe people put honesty,integrity,genuine and respectful before the being attractive bit Yes. Then that says more about the person who does the liking than the supposed attractive person Really. What EXACTLY does it say about them ? Shallow So to be attracted to someone you find attractive is shallow ? and 'deep' people resist being attracted to people they are attracted to in case other people think they lack integrity, honesty, respect and genuineness ? Is that close to what you mean ? C'mon Esmerelda never really had the hots for Quasimodo as lovely as he was. He rarely left his bell tower cos of how he looked ! No you said people are liked more because they are attractive,if you are attracted to someone who is attractive that's fine but certainly don't buy into this attractive people are liked more... But .... they are. If a set of mugshots are sorted into 'trustworthy' and 'untrustworthy' .... the ugly ones go in the second set.... every time. " | |||
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"People respond more positively to an attractive person, they smile more when talking to them and are more willing to help. Hundreds of years ago when I was a student a petite, blonde, very beautiful friend of mine broke down in her convertible just by the clock tower in Brighton. She jumped out of the car and without her saying a word about fifteen men appeared to help her. I'm sure that had she been 50, fat and warty a couple of men would have helped but nowhere near as many. Good point. A lot of people respond positively too 'more attractive' men/women ...which is shit by the way It's totally shit and can cause problems for people at both ends of the 'attractiveness' spectrum. I have 2 sisters, one who is beautiful and one who has cerebral palsy is not conventionally attractive. The beautiful one's self-esteem is determined by how she looks, and is very uncomfortable if she feels she's not the most attractive woman in the room. She's found dealing with baby-weight really difficult and has become quite self-loathing. The other sister has had boyfriends in the past who have demanded their relationship be kept secret as he's ashamed of her looks. about the boyfriend! "It's happened more than once. When I asked her why she put up with it she said 'it's better than no boyfriend at all'.  | |||
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"yes it is people like you more if you are attractive. What utter rubbish,do you really think people like you more if you are attractive,or do you think maybe people put honesty,integrity,genuine and respectful before the being attractive bit Yes. Then that says more about the person who does the liking than the supposed attractive person Really. What EXACTLY does it say about them ? Shallow So to be attracted to someone you find attractive is shallow ? and 'deep' people resist being attracted to people they are attracted to in case other people think they lack integrity, honesty, respect and genuineness ? Is that close to what you mean ? C'mon Esmerelda never really had the hots for Quasimodo as lovely as he was. He rarely left his bell tower cos of how he looked ! No you said people are liked more because they are attractive,if you are attracted to someone who is attractive that's fine but certainly don't buy into this attractive people are liked more... But .... they are. If a set of mugshots are sorted into 'trustworthy' and 'untrustworthy' .... the ugly ones go in the second set.... every time. "Ok a great example.....Jackie my partner,lovely girl but to be fair she looks like she's had a few rounds with Mike tyson but my god she is popular (maybe they all think she really does know Mike Tyson) ....me well I'm a looker but no friends,hope that puts the issue to bed  | |||
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"yes it is people like you more if you are attractive. What utter rubbish,do you really think people like you more if you are attractive,or do you think maybe people put honesty,integrity,genuine and respectful before the being attractive bit Yes. Then that says more about the person who does the liking than the supposed attractive person Really. What EXACTLY does it say about them ? Shallow So to be attracted to someone you find attractive is shallow ? and 'deep' people resist being attracted to people they are attracted to in case other people think they lack integrity, honesty, respect and genuineness ? Is that close to what you mean ? C'mon Esmerelda never really had the hots for Quasimodo as lovely as he was. He rarely left his bell tower cos of how he looked ! No you said people are liked more because they are attractive,if you are attracted to someone who is attractive that's fine but certainly don't buy into this attractive people are liked more... But .... they are. If a set of mugshots are sorted into 'trustworthy' and 'untrustworthy' .... the ugly ones go in the second set.... every time.
Ok a great example.....Jackie my partner,lovely girl but to be fair she looks like she's had a few rounds with Mike tyson but my god she is popular (maybe they all think she really does know Mike Tyson) ....me well I'm a looker but no friends,hope that puts the issue to bed "Only joking....she doesn't really know Mike Tyson...just in case more people wanna get to know her | |||
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"yes it is people like you more if you are attractive. What utter rubbish,do you really think people like you more if you are attractive,or do you think maybe people put honesty,integrity,genuine and respectful before the being attractive bit Yes. Then that says more about the person who does the liking than the supposed attractive person Really. What EXACTLY does it say about them ? Shallow So to be attracted to someone you find attractive is shallow ? and 'deep' people resist being attracted to people they are attracted to in case other people think they lack integrity, honesty, respect and genuineness ? Is that close to what you mean ? C'mon Esmerelda never really had the hots for Quasimodo as lovely as he was. He rarely left his bell tower cos of how he looked ! No you said people are liked more because they are attractive,if you are attracted to someone who is attractive that's fine but certainly don't buy into this attractive people are liked more... But .... they are. If a set of mugshots are sorted into 'trustworthy' and 'untrustworthy' .... the ugly ones go in the second set.... every time.
Ok a great example.....Jackie my partner,lovely girl but to be fair she looks like she's had a few rounds with Mike tyson but my god she is popular (maybe they all think she really does know Mike Tyson) ....me well I'm a looker but no friends,hope that puts the issue to bed
Only joking....she doesn't really know Mike Tyson...just in case more people wanna get to know her "Actually she's fucking gorgeous to be honest (love you babe) fuck I'm in trouble lol | |||
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"yes it is people like you more if you are attractive. What utter rubbish,do you really think people like you more if you are attractive,or do you think maybe people put honesty,integrity,genuine and respectful before the being attractive bit Yes. Then that says more about the person who does the liking than the supposed attractive person Really. What EXACTLY does it say about them ? Shallow So to be attracted to someone you find attractive is shallow ? and 'deep' people resist being attracted to people they are attracted to in case other people think they lack integrity, honesty, respect and genuineness ? Is that close to what you mean ? C'mon Esmerelda never really had the hots for Quasimodo as lovely as he was. He rarely left his bell tower cos of how he looked ! No you said people are liked more because they are attractive,if you are attracted to someone who is attractive that's fine but certainly don't buy into this attractive people are liked more... But .... they are. If a set of mugshots are sorted into 'trustworthy' and 'untrustworthy' .... the ugly ones go in the second set.... every time.
Ok a great example.....Jackie my partner,lovely girl but to be fair she looks like she's had a few rounds with Mike tyson but my god she is popular (maybe they all think she really does know Mike Tyson) ....me well I'm a looker but no friends,hope that puts the issue to bed
Only joking....she doesn't really know Mike Tyson...just in case more people wanna get to know her
Actually she's fucking gorgeous to be honest (love you babe) fuck I'm in trouble lol"Oh yes, BIG trouble, better get your arse up here now "babe" ..... 
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"It's all about personality " Personality is the tortoise in the race but certainly the winner.
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"No it doesn't. Sos. Humour is attractive too you know Yes. " Woohoo we agree | |||
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"I saw this topic on another forum and thought I'd see what your options are. Apparently some statistics say yes. Apparently some people think it's the other way around. What's your thoughts? " Yes when you are a child. Children can be cruel. Not so much as an adult. Or maybe you just have thicker skin as a result. | |||
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"People respond more positively to an attractive person, they smile more when talking to them and are more willing to help. Hundreds of years ago when I was a student a petite, blonde, very beautiful friend of mine broke down in her convertible just by the clock tower in Brighton. She jumped out of the car and without her saying a word about fifteen men appeared to help her. I'm sure that had she been 50, fat and warty a couple of men would have helped but nowhere near as many. Good point. A lot of people respond positively too 'more attractive' men/women ...which is shit by the way It's totally shit and can cause problems for people at both ends of the 'attractiveness' spectrum. I have 2 sisters, one who is beautiful and one who has cerebral palsy is not conventionally attractive. The beautiful one's self-esteem is determined by how she looks, and is very uncomfortable if she feels she's not the most attractive woman in the room. She's found dealing with baby-weight really difficult and has become quite self-loathing. The other sister has had boyfriends in the past who have demanded their relationship be kept secret as he's ashamed of her looks. about the boyfriend!
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"We rarely go out of the way to converse with people less attractive than ourselves, and refuse to even be served by anyone who isn't at least an 8 It's about time ugly people were forced to walk in the gutter and touch their forelocks whenever we pass. "Aww now we understand | |||
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"So to all you who are saying attractiveness isn't important or that personality is more important. How do you choose playmates? Do you look at the pictures? Of course you do and if someone doesn't look attractive to you, you pass on by! Look at the top fabbed pictures. Most of them are slim and what most would call attractive. Are you saying that they are not nice in personality? Sorry, but that just proves what was being proposed in the OP! In the main, the Rubenesque (and above) figure doesn't get fabbed as much! There is so much crap typed on here that it needs its own sewage farm! " | |||
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"So to all you who are saying attractiveness isn't important or that personality is more important. How do you choose playmates? Do you look at the pictures? Of course you do and if someone doesn't look attractive to you, you pass on by! Look at the top fabbed pictures. Most of them are slim and what most would call attractive. Are you saying that they are not nice in personality? Sorry, but that just proves what was being proposed in the OP! In the main, the Rubenesque (and above) figure doesn't get fabbed as much! There is so much crap typed on here that it needs its own sewage farm! " | |||
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"I saw this topic on another forum and thought I'd see what your options are. Apparently some statistics say yes. Apparently some people think it's the other way around. What's your thoughts? " I hope so, other wise what's the point in being so good looking? ! | |||
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"So to all you who are saying attractiveness isn't important or that personality is more important. How do you choose playmates? Do you look at the pictures? Of course you do and if someone doesn't look attractive to you, you pass on by! Look at the top fabbed pictures. Most of them are slim and what most would call attractive. Are you saying that they are not nice in personality? Sorry, but that just proves what was being proposed in the OP! In the main, the Rubenesque (and above) figure doesn't get fabbed as much! There is so much crap typed on here that it needs its own sewage farm! " the question was about is their life harder. Ive never been on first page of fabs in my life. It makes absolutly no difference to my life | |||
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"So to all you who are saying attractiveness isn't important or that personality is more important. How do you choose playmates? Do you look at the pictures? Of course you do and if someone doesn't look attractive to you, you pass on by! Look at the top fabbed pictures. Most of them are slim and what most would call attractive. Are you saying that they are not nice in personality? Sorry, but that just proves what was being proposed in the OP! In the main, the Rubenesque (and above) figure doesn't get fabbed as much! There is so much crap typed on here that it needs its own sewage farm! the question was about is their life harder. Ive never been on first page of fabs in my life. It makes absolutly no difference to my life" Where as for some it's a kind of "fix" they NEED to be on page 1. | |||
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"Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.... Bullshit. Beauty is a categorical variable that society has created. Holly Willoughby on this morning is attractive, the woman that played heather trott in EastEnders is not. Holly could walk into anywhere and get men and women falling for her, heather would be lucky to have somebody say hi. In general attractiveness can equate to how hard life treats you. And then you come on sites like this where heather would find it difficult to find a meet compared to holly" | |||
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"Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.... Bullshit. Beauty is a categorical variable that society has created. Holly Willoughby on this morning is attractive, the woman that played heather trott in EastEnders is not. Holly could walk into anywhere and get men and women falling for her, heather would be lucky to have somebody say hi. In general attractiveness can equate to how hard life treats you. And then you come on sites like this where heather would find it difficult to find a meet compared to holly "Sad but true | |||
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"Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.... Bullshit. Beauty is a categorical variable that society has created. Holly Willoughby on this morning is attractive, the woman that played heather trott in EastEnders is not. Holly could walk into anywhere and get men and women falling for her, heather would be lucky to have somebody say hi. In general attractiveness can equate to how hard life treats you. And then you come on sites like this where heather would find it difficult to find a meet compared to holly" Thats about it only heather would be able to find a meet if she wasnt fussy but not as much as holly. | |||
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"I saw this too. I think it totally depends on the type of person you are. For sociable people who love attention then being attractive will be an advantage. For shy people who hate being noticed being attractive would be a bit of a curse." Excellent point!! Like the majority of people I fit somewhere in the middle! If I shove my jeans and shirt on - hair up and no make-up - and walk round track then no one looks at me twice! If I make an effort with clothes, make-up, hair etc then I get loads of looks/attention! I like it that way - being inconspicuous when I want and getting noticed when I want! | |||
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"I saw this too. I think it totally depends on the type of person you are. For sociable people who love attention then being attractive will be an advantage. For shy people who hate being noticed being attractive would be a bit of a curse. Excellent point!! Like the majority of people I fit somewhere in the middle! If I shove my jeans and shirt on - hair up and no make-up - and walk round track then no one looks at me twice! If I make an effort with clothes, make-up, hair etc then I get loads of looks/attention! I like it that way - being inconspicuous when I want and getting noticed when I want! "Is that you Madonna ? | |||
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"Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.... Bullshit. Beauty is a categorical variable that society has created. Holly Willoughby on this morning is attractive, the woman that played heather trott in EastEnders is not. Holly could walk into anywhere and get men and women falling for her, heather would be lucky to have somebody say hi. In general attractiveness can equate to how hard life treats you. And then you come on sites like this where heather would find it difficult to find a meet compared to holly" Exactly. Recent example being the forums, a particularly attractive lady joined and posted and practically every thread she posted on turned into a love fest with guys trying to get her attention. I've not seen that happen before or since to that extent. It was quite a wonder to behold | |||
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"I saw this topic on another forum and thought I'd see what your options are. Apparently some statistics say yes. Apparently some people think it's the other way around. What's your thoughts? Who determines who's attractive and who's not ?" I'm doing that today. | |||
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"I saw this too. I think it totally depends on the type of person you are. For sociable people who love attention then being attractive will be an advantage. For shy people who hate being noticed being attractive would be a bit of a curse. Excellent point!! Like the majority of people I fit somewhere in the middle! If I shove my jeans and shirt on - hair up and no make-up - and walk round track then no one looks at me twice! If I make an effort with clothes, make-up, hair etc then I get loads of looks/attention! I like it that way - being inconspicuous when I want and getting noticed when I want!
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"I saw this topic on another forum and thought I'd see what your options are. Apparently some statistics say yes. Apparently some people think it's the other way around. What's your thoughts? Who determines who's attractive and who's not ? I'm doing that today. " Get started then! We're all waiting for judgments and answers  | |||
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"I saw this too. I think it totally depends on the type of person you are. For sociable people who love attention then being attractive will be an advantage. For shy people who hate being noticed being attractive would be a bit of a curse. Excellent point!! Like the majority of people I fit somewhere in the middle! If I shove my jeans and shirt on - hair up and no make-up - and walk round track then no one looks at me twice! If I make an effort with clothes, make-up, hair etc then I get loads of looks/attention! I like it that way - being inconspicuous when I want and getting noticed when I want!
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"I saw this topic on another forum and thought I'd see what your options are. Apparently some statistics say yes. Apparently some people think it's the other way around. What's your thoughts? Who determines who's attractive and who's not ?" The mainstream media, Beyonce, fashion designers... These are the decision makers in terms of beauty | |||
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"I saw this topic on another forum and thought I'd see what your options are. Apparently some statistics say yes. Apparently some people think it's the other way around. What's your thoughts? Who determines who's attractive and who's not ? I'm doing that today. Get started then! We're all waiting for judgments and answers "Well ... Marc's mug is highly attractive. It can stay. | |||
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"I saw this topic on another forum and thought I'd see what your options are. Apparently some statistics say yes. Apparently some people think it's the other way around. What's your thoughts? Who determines who's attractive and who's not ? The mainstream media, Beyonce, fashion designers... These are the decision makers in terms of beauty" Beyonce said the world wasn't ready for my jelly ! | |||
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"I saw this topic on another forum and thought I'd see what your options are. Apparently some statistics say yes. Apparently some people think it's the other way around. What's your thoughts? Who determines who's attractive and who's not ? I'm doing that today. Get started then! We're all waiting for judgments and answers
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"That happens all the time. I watch attractive women spout bullshit and some men just lap it up ......... all they can smell is pussy." Lmfao | |||
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"I saw this topic on another forum and thought I'd see what your options are. Apparently some statistics say yes. Apparently some people think it's the other way around. What's your thoughts? " Attraction is subjective and not only dependent on body shape and face but personality to. I would say this it helps to be a likable person in this world this makes you attractive in a way and will help you to succeed in life in general. | |||
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"I saw this too. I think it totally depends on the type of person you are. For sociable people who love attention then being attractive will be an advantage. For shy people who hate being noticed being attractive would be a bit of a curse. Excellent point!! Like the majority of people I fit somewhere in the middle! If I shove my jeans and shirt on - hair up and no make-up - and walk round track then no one looks at me twice! If I make an effort with clothes, make-up, hair etc then I get loads of looks/attention! I like it that way - being inconspicuous when I want and getting noticed when I want!
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"I saw this topic on another forum and thought I'd see what your options are. Apparently some statistics say yes. Apparently some people think it's the other way around. What's your thoughts? Attraction is subjective and not only dependent on body shape and face but personality to. I would say this it helps to be a likable person in this world this makes you attractive in a way and will help you to succeed in life in general. " yep this makes a lot of sense | |||
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Looks are mainly used as promotion by media businesses or judged by them creating a false shallow representation of what real beauty really is.
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"I don't consider myself particularly attractive or ugly - I look like me. It's the only face I'll ever get, anyway. I believe that it is your attitude and confidence that determines how you do in life - often those that feel themselves attractive will have that confidence early on, but it can be shaken as they start to fade. Those who feel themselves unattractive, on the other hand, may have less confidence in the beginning, but grow as they start to realise that people judge on more than looks. Me? I always have been and will remain a cocky little shit "Best way to be lol, I'm a cross between a person and a wolf but I'm confident In myself and a sarcastic bastard which helps with endearing myself upon other human types lol | |||
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I'm more worried about the dry fish.
Thats the problem people worry to much & miss out on a lot of life, as average looking people ourselves we are under no expectations of what & who we should expect to meet & look for personality over looks any day.
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"Model attractive people in my experience dont tend to have any conversation or wit. Its deoressing to be around too many of rhem at one time. Give me an average person with humour and wit and im horny as fuck. A brain should be the thing to really get your motor running. People who just gaze at profile pics to get a hard on are the ones really missing out. "Can't be fun being beautiful and having people assume you're dull! | |||
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"Model attractive people in my experience dont tend to have any conversation or wit. Its deoressing to be around too many of rhem at one time. Give me an average person with humour and wit and im horny as fuck. A brain should be the thing to really get your motor running. People who just gaze at profile pics to get a hard on are the ones really missing out.
Can't be fun being beautiful and having people assume you're dull!"A lady on the other thread/forum about this said something similar. She admitted she was attractive and didn't like it that people assumed because she is pretty she didn't have a brain. | |||
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"i think it's harder for stupid people and non-manipulative people. also if you're honest and have a good character then peopel will take advantage. my personal opinion." Honest non manipative people are remembered far longer than their counterparts, we like to surround ourselves with nice people regardless of their looks. | |||
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"I saw this topic on another forum and thought I'd see what your options are. Apparently some statistics say yes. Apparently some people think it's the other way around. What's your thoughts? " Impossible to answer because the truly attractive ones don't know how attractive they are and those that are convinced they are truly attractive are often nothing of the sort ...+ attraction is very personal and also what attracts you today may make you sick tomorrow | |||
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"i think it's harder for stupid people and non-manipulative people. also if you're honest and have a good character then peopel will take advantage. my personal opinion. Honest non manipative people are remembered far longer than their counterparts, we like to surround ourselves with nice people regardless of their looks. " I actually prefer honest types of people but can see how being a not very nice person gives them all kinds of advantages and makes heir life easier. | |||
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"As someone who is a "typically unattractive" person in normal society (over weight, well above average height for a woman, not massively gifted in the face department etc.) I don't think I find it harder than my more beautiful friends, but I will say that they do get alot more offers to help with bags or lift heavy things or buy them a drink etc. than I do. But that doesn't really make my life any harder than theirs in fact I probably have it easier as I don't face the harassment that being beautiful also seems to bring." I suspect people don't offer to help you carry stuff as they reckon you'd think they were taking the piss. Also I don't see how your height would make you unattractive. Unapproachable maybe as, especially if they are on Fab, they will be long conditioned to the idea that women find anyone shorter than them unattractive. Obviously I can see that's not the case with you as your partner is notably shorter. | |||
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