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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

The Turkish military have closed two of the main bridges in Istanbul and military jets are flying over the capital city Ankara - not sure yet what's going on or if the incidents are related? Something big seems to be unfolding ..

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

The world is fuck up

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Too fucked up for my liking

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

Coup attempt in Turkey according to Govt minister ...

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

The latest news is that there is low flying jets and gunfire heard in Ankara, wonder who is flying them?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Jesus not more!

I was expecting this thread to be about lowcost going bust today and people kicking of as they are stuck.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Coup attempt in Turkey according to Govt minister ... "

A coup ? To take over Erdogan?

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Coup attempt in Turkey according to Govt minister ...

A coup ? To take over Erdogan? "

Yep - Military coup it looks like .. Details sketchy .. Huge news if true

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By *rightonsteveMan  over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!

Boris Johnson wrote a poem for The Spectator song the lines of 'there was a guy in Ankara, he was a bit of a wankerer'

I hope this is not more violence.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Coup attempt in Turkey according to Govt minister ...

A coup ? To take over Erdogan?

Yep - Military coup it looks like .. Details sketchy .. Huge news if true "

Fucking hell ! They must have help from the outside ! Why on earth Erdogan did ? To my knowledge he wasn't a fucking dictator !

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Perdita von tease entered Turkey and caused mayhem

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By *oggoneMan  over a year ago

Derry


"Fucking hell ! They must have help from the outside ! Why on earth Erdogan did ? To my knowledge he wasn't a fucking dictator ! "

I wouldn't exactly call him a democrat. Its not a good place to be a journalist. The Turkish army actually have a history of protecting the country from extremism

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By *erdita Von TeaseWoman  over a year ago

nottingham


"Perdita von tease entered Turkey and caused mayhem "

Eh? What did I do now?

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

Latest : attempted coup by 'factions of the military' - tanks at the airport, jets overlying Ankara and bridges blocked by tanks in Istanbul

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Fucking hell ! They must have help from the outside ! Why on earth Erdogan did ? To my knowledge he wasn't a fucking dictator !

I wouldn't exactly call him a democrat. Its not a good place to be a journalist. The Turkish army actually have a history of protecting the country from extremism"

The Turkish army also are known for extremism

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Perdita von tease entered Turkey and caused mayhem

Eh? What did I do now? "

Ha .....just a bit of fun.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Reuters says a coup underway.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

My parents live in Turkey

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"My parents live in Turkey "

Are they okay ?

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By *icked weaselCouple  over a year ago

Near Edinburgh..

Wonder Who Paid for This ???

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By *eavenNhellCouple  over a year ago

carrbrook stalybridge

well they wont be joining the EU anytime soon after this

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

News reports are rather sketchy, tanks at Ataturk Airport & on the streets....

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By *oggoneMan  over a year ago

Derry

I think this is the 3rd time they have done this.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"well they wont be joining the EU anytime soon after this "

They will never be joining the EU anyway!! Muslim law won't allow it

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"My parents live in Turkey

Are they okay ? "

Just waiting on reply , thank you x

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By *thwalescplCouple  over a year ago

brecon

Turkish tv is off air, facebook, twitter etc is down, military have deployed tanks in the capital city, military helicopters and plans flying overhead.

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By *iamondjoeMan  over a year ago

Glastonbury

Wow.

Fab breaks a news story to me.

That's rare. Let's take a look...

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

There is live coverage on youtube of it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h61WLomQrWQ

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By *uby0000Woman  over a year ago

hertfordshire

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By *iamondjoeMan  over a year ago

Glastonbury

Yep....bona fide coup in progress, ladies and gents.

I wonder how this will pan out?

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By *iamondjoeMan  over a year ago

Glastonbury

The Telegraph has a fair bit...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/07/15/turkey-low-flying-jets-and-gunfire-heard-in-ankara1/

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"The latest news is that there is low flying jets and gunfire heard in Ankara, wonder who is flying them?"

Easyjet probably...if they think they can get a cheap landing slot somewhere, they really go for it...

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Turkish tv is off air, facebook, twitter etc is down, military have deployed tanks in the capital city, military helicopters and plans flying overhead. "

That's the first thing they always do when trouble breaks out. I can't get in contact with my parents but their wifi could be down x

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By *irtyGirlWoman  over a year ago

Edinburgh

I'm in mid conversation with a mate in Whatsapp who's on holiday in Turkey but she's miles away from where it's at.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Turkish tv is off air, facebook, twitter etc is down, military have deployed tanks in the capital city, military helicopters and plans flying overhead.

That's the first thing they always do when trouble breaks out. I can't get in contact with my parents but their wifi could be down x"

I'd be surprsed if wifi and mobile phone networks aren;t all down to hinder communication

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Turkish tv is off air, facebook, twitter etc is down, military have deployed tanks in the capital city, military helicopters and plans flying overhead.

That's the first thing they always do when trouble breaks out. I can't get in contact with my parents but their wifi could be down x"

Hope they're OK and you hear from them soon x

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Erdogan is deeply unpopular amongst some Turks, and is seen as moving the state away from it's secular foundations. He is seen by some as attempting to Islamify the state, and has been using draconian powers to do so.

This actually *might* - very unusually - be a liberal coup by the army

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By *razedcatMan  over a year ago

London / Herts

BBC News reporting. All signs at the moment suggest a military coup is in progress.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Thats mad !

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple  over a year ago

in Lancashire


"Fucking hell ! They must have help from the outside ! Why on earth Erdogan did ? To my knowledge he wasn't a fucking dictator !

I wouldn't exactly call him a democrat. Its not a good place to be a journalist. The Turkish army actually have a history of protecting the country from extremism"

this..

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By *ohnaronMan  over a year ago

london


"Perdita von tease entered Turkey and caused mayhem

Eh? What did I do now? "

Fess up babe

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"News reports are rather sketchy, tanks at Ataturk Airport & on the streets...."

And the EU want to speed up their joining..... Madness!

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

If you have friends or family in Turkey I'm sure they are safe, this is not a murderous coup (or at least it appears not) and I expect the military will not turn arms onto citizens.

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By *exysuzi and Mr.SCouple  over a year ago

CONISTON .Stoke Suburbia. Staffs. BARMOUTH. The Lakes (Monthly)

It's on the news now, straight after Nice xxxxx

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By *iamondjoeMan  over a year ago

Glastonbury


"Erdogan is deeply unpopular amongst some Turks, and is seen as moving the state away from it's secular foundations. He is seen by some as attempting to Islamify the state, and has been using draconian powers to do so.

This actually *might* - very unusually - be a liberal coup by the army "

This

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By *evaquitCouple  over a year ago

Catthorpe


"well they wont be joining the EU anytime soon after this

They will never be joining the EU anyway!! Muslim law won't allow it "

They're part of NATO though, wondering what the reponse to this will be, or what they already knew???

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By *iamondjoeMan  over a year ago

Glastonbury

I'm not so sure Erdogan is one of the good guys - he's got a long record of human rights abuses, conflict with the Kurds and abuses there, muzzling of the press, corruption allegations justice and democracy being eroded and the office of the president strengthened.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Erdogan is deeply unpopular amongst some Turks, and is seen as moving the state away from it's secular foundations. He is seen by some as attempting to Islamify the state, and has been using draconian powers to do so.

This actually *might* - very unusually - be a liberal coup by the army "

I think that this might hopefully be the case too. The opposite doesn;t bear thinking about

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Erdogan is deeply unpopular amongst some Turks, and is seen as moving the state away from it's secular foundations. He is seen by some as attempting to Islamify the state, and has been using draconian powers to do so.

This actually *might* - very unusually - be a liberal coup by the army "

Good point, well made

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"News reports are rather sketchy, tanks at Ataturk Airport & on the streets....

And the EU want to speed up their joining..... Madness!"

They will never give up the Muslim law. So therefore they will never be part of the EU. FACT

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By *iamondjoeMan  over a year ago

Glastonbury

And by giving the military extra powers, guns and an effective blank cheque to fight its war in Kurdistan maybe he's been riding a tiger.

The military long considers itself to be guardian of the legacy of Attaturk, ie, a secular state.

Erdogan has made or attempted many inroads into this, with increasing frequency.

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By *iamondjoeMan  over a year ago

Glastonbury

I wonder when Erdogan will speak? That's usually a good barometer of progress...

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By *olgateMan  over a year ago

on the road to nowhere in particular

Military coup!

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By *iamondjoeMan  over a year ago

Glastonbury

News just in...

10:12pm

Turkey now under control of a 'peace council'

State TV channel says the country is now under the control of a "peace council" that will ensure the safety of the population.

It states that democratic and secular rule of law has been eroded by the Erdogan government.

10:08pm

All airports closed

State TV channel TRT reports that all airports in Turkey are now closed.

10:07pm

Rush to withdraw money from ATMs in Turkey

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple  over a year ago

in Lancashire


"Erdogan is deeply unpopular amongst some Turks, and is seen as moving the state away from it's secular foundations. He is seen by some as attempting to Islamify the state, and has been using draconian powers to do so.

This actually *might* - very unusually - be a liberal coup by the army

I think that this might hopefully be the case too. The opposite doesn;t bear thinking about"

agreed..

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

Erdogan 'to make a statement soon'.

Military say they are in control of country and impose martial law and a curfew

Govt say they are still in control and those in military undertaking this "illegal act" will pay the "highest price" ..

Going to be a long night I think

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I wonder when Erdogan will speak? That's usually a good barometer of progress..."

Due to speak any minute

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By *iamondjoeMan  over a year ago

Glastonbury

"Erdogan is reportedly on vacation with his family in Bodrum, an Aegean resort."

They went in while he was on holiday.

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By *iamondjoeMan  over a year ago

Glastonbury


"I wonder when Erdogan will speak? That's usually a good barometer of progress...

Due to speak any minute "

What channel?

Turkish TV is in the hands of the military

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Turkey is in a complete lockdown.

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By *ob198XaMan  over a year ago

teleford


"I wonder when Erdogan will speak? That's usually a good barometer of progress..."

rumour has it Erdogan has slipped out on a pvt jet

If this doesn't turn into a bloodbath it could be a good thing, a secular rather than Muslim turkey is to be welcomed, but who knows what the next few hours will bring.

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By *inky-MinxWoman  over a year ago

Grantham

Blimey

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Turkey is in a complete lockdown."

All of turkey ?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

The BBC (British Broadcasting Corp, just to be clear) reporting an Army group has claimed to have taken control of the country to ensure "democratic order".

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By *iamondjoeMan  over a year ago

Glastonbury

Seems like the first reports on Turkish TV outlined explosions and gunfire at a police special forces training centre in the capital, Ankara.

Reports of police and soldiers exchanging fire.

Then we have the military over Istanbul, closure of airports and seizure of the TV/comms.

Textbook

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Turkey is in a complete lockdown.

All of turkey ?"

Not sure if all of it are, but the sun online have that headline and news on twitter.

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By *iamondjoeMan  over a year ago

Glastonbury


"Blimey "

This is why we have news, dear

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By *iamondjoeMan  over a year ago

Glastonbury

So it comes down to Erdogan:-

* does he flee, and it's all over

* does he fight and with what?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

So glad that we haven't gone there on holiday

We'd discussed going at easter, but decided against it

I sincerely hope that the situation remains calm and safe for the citizens and people of Turkey

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Turkey is in a complete lockdown.

All of turkey ?Not sure if all of it are, but the sun online have that headline and news on twitter."

Curfew set in place

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By *iamondjoeMan  over a year ago

Glastonbury

1m ago

22:19

Turkish military broadcasts on state TV amid coup reports

An announcement on the Turkish state broadcaster TRT says that a curfew has been declared across Turkey and that airports are closed. The announcer says they are being made to read a statement by the military.

The statement promises a new constitution for the country and says that democracy and the secular rule of law had been undermined. Martial law has also been imposed, it adds.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"News reports are rather sketchy, tanks at Ataturk Airport & on the streets....

And the EU want to speed up their joining..... Madness!

They will never give up the Muslim law. So therefore they will never be part of the EU. FACT"

They are a SECULAR country...since Attaturk in 1920s. The founding basis of Turkeys military is to protect that secular rule. Erduan was eroding that and introducing Muslim law....probably why the military have moved against him.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Hopefully the democratically elected government can overcome the mutinous mercenaries!

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By *iamondjoeMan  over a year ago

Glastonbury


"So it comes down to Erdogan:-

* does he flee, and it's all over

* does he fight and with what?

"

Ah... and maybe the Americans, who have they keys to Turkey's nukes at a very large military base in Incirlik.

I wonder what Obama thinks...

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By *thwalescplCouple  over a year ago

brecon

The Turkish military say they have complete control and hope for calm.

Sounds like its a countrywide thing, and only the police are standing by the President... which is a losing move as the whole military is on the streets with tanks helicopters and militarty jets.

I could well be a done deal.

Guess the morning will bring a clearer view.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

This is the sixth military coup in Turkey since 1960!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Turkey is in a complete lockdown.

All of turkey ?Not sure if all of it are, but the sun online have that headline and news on twitter.

Curfew set in place "

That is good as the people need to be safe.

Turkish military declares martial law and curfew: TRT state TV

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By *rightonsteveMan  over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!


"Hopefully the democratically elected government can overcome the mutinous mercenaries!"

Mercenaries? That's not accurate, they are the government paid military!

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"I wonder when Erdogan will speak? That's usually a good barometer of progress...

rumour has it Erdogan has slipped out on a pvt jet

If this doesn't turn into a bloodbath it could be a good thing, a secular rather than Muslim turkey is to be welcomed, but who knows what the next few hours will bring. "

definitely agree. A hardcore / increasingly radical Islamist country as the gateway between Asia & Europe or a secular democracy? No brainer for me ..

Let's hope it's a quick and blood free coup

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

It's all a bit strange and to be honest I don't really

understand it all.

But I'm a bit of a plane geek ( shhhh ) I have a flight track app and over the last hour the majority of flights over turkey are being diverted onto other flight paths. It's all very strange watching

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By *iamondjoeMan  over a year ago

Glastonbury


"So it comes down to Erdogan:-

* does he flee, and it's all over

* does he fight and with what?

"

10.29pm

22:29

The Turkish president Recep Tayyip Erdogan has said that the coup is the work of a minority within the military.

Speaking to CNN Turk, he adds: “We will overcome this.”

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By *rinking-in-laCouple  over a year ago

Bristol


"Coup attempt in Turkey according to Govt minister ...

A coup ? To take over Erdogan?

Yep - Military coup it looks like .. Details sketchy .. Huge news if true

Fucking hell ! They must have help from the outside ! Why on earth Erdogan did ? To my knowledge he wasn't a fucking dictator ! "

Erdogan is a dictator in all but name. He is utterly barbaric and is ruining his country.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

At least there!s no shooting fingers x'd

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By *iamondjoeMan  over a year ago

Glastonbury

Fuck me, Wikipedia already has a page...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Turkish_coup_d%27%C3%A9tat_attempt

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By *iamondjoeMan  over a year ago

Glastonbury

22:31

Turkey's Prime Minister Binali Yildirim has meanwhile been posting a lot on Twitter. In one post, he says the country will "never, ever tolerate unlawfulness" and not allow democracy to be interfered with.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"The Turkish military have closed two of the main bridges in Istanbul and military jets are flying over the capital city Ankara - not sure yet what's going on or if the incidents are related? Something big seems to be unfolding .. "

Just watching the news now....

A scary scary world we live... I don't like it!

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By *thwalescplCouple  over a year ago

brecon

Erdogan is trying to get the turkish public out onto the streets to fight for him... what a madman, the military have tanks, some loons throwing stones arent going to stop them ffs!

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By *iamondjoeMan  over a year ago

Glastonbury

Posted at

22:34

Eliot Higgins, of the Bellingcat website for citizen investigative journalists, is in Turkey and just posted this:

Erdogan speaks to nation via webcam

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By *iamondjoeMan  over a year ago

Glastonbury

Relatively well orchestrated coup - EU source

Posted at

Fucking weasel words from the EU - they're calling it 'well orchestrated' - makes it sound like a day at the races...

.

22:35

A European Union source tells the Reuters news agency: "It looks like a relatively well orchestrated coup by a substantial body of the military, not just a few colonels." "They control several strategic points in Istanbul. Given the scale of the operation, it is difficult to imagine they will stop short of prevailing," the source adds.

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By *nd-DCouple  over a year ago

portsmouth

The world has gone mad ...

Worrying times we live in

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By *iamondjoeMan  over a year ago

Glastonbury


"The world has gone mad ...

Worrying times we live in "

It's that old Chinese curse:

"May you live in interesting times."

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By *inky-MinxWoman  over a year ago

Grantham


"Blimey

This is why we have news, dear "

I know, I get mine from the Fab forum

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Trying to get erdogon out!

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By *iamondjoeMan  over a year ago

Glastonbury


"Blimey

This is why we have news, dear

I know, I get mine from the Fab forum "

Good thing I'm here then

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Trying to get erdogon out!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Rt channel reporting that president is asking Germany for asylum and he's hiding I a naval base.

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By *olgateMan  over a year ago

on the road to nowhere in particular

Greek military on alert, Erdogan has requested asylum in Germany from his holiday base in Bodrun

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By *inky-MinxWoman  over a year ago

Grantham


"Blimey

This is why we have news, dear

I know, I get mine from the Fab forum

Good thing I'm here then "

Even you got your heads up on this here

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Friend of mine just posted this on FB:

" I was at an event yesterday delivered by Dr Dave Sloggett (Google him, he's quite interesting...) He claimed to have predicted the Tunisia beach attacks. When he said it I thought bullshit, but he then followed that by saying "if you have a trip to Turkey planned, please, please don't go...."

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"The world has gone mad ...

Worrying times we live in "

I'm pro - coup in this instance if it can be done in an orderly, bloodless way and upholds citizens freedoms and rights, something that Erdogan has chipped away at over time via new legislation. He's quoted at hoping for the implementation of sharia law in Turkey.

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By *iamondjoeMan  over a year ago

Glastonbury


"Blimey

This is why we have news, dear

I know, I get mine from the Fab forum

Good thing I'm here then

Even you got your heads up on this here "

Yes, again you're late - someone else has already poked fun at me for that

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Greek Army are on standby.. Reported on RT.

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By *inky-MinxWoman  over a year ago

Grantham


"Blimey

This is why we have news, dear

I know, I get mine from the Fab forum

Good thing I'm here then

Even you got your heads up on this here

Yes, again you're late - someone else has already poked fun at me for that "

I'd never poke fun at you

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By *inky-MinxWoman  over a year ago

Grantham

From what people are saying it seems efficient and not violent, which is a blessing at least.

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By *iamondjoeMan  over a year ago

Glastonbury


"Friend of mine just posted this on FB:

" I was at an event yesterday delivered by Dr Dave Sloggett (Google him, he's quite interesting...) He claimed to have predicted the Tunisia beach attacks. When he said it I thought bullshit, but he then followed that by saying "if you have a trip to Turkey planned, please, please don't go...."

"

I did Google Sloggett...

Hopefully it's not the US snake-oil salesman but this one, who sounds in the loop. Who's yr friend?

"Dr Dave Sloggett has spent over 40 years working with the United Kingdom military forces as a scientific advisor and analyst. His work has led him to visit Northern Ireland, Kosovo, Iraq and Afghanistan on numerous occasions. He is a recognised authority on Counter Insurgency (COIN) operations and is used as an advisor by NATO to lecture on this subject in support of training missions seeking to help countries establish their own military forces. Today he writes for a wide range of publications and is a strategic advisor to IHS-Janes the publishing company, an organisation for which he is also a regular contributor to their on-line webinars and their publications, such as Janes Intelligence Review, Janes Defence Weekly, Janes Navy International and Janes Islamic Affairs Analysis."

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By *iamondjoeMan  over a year ago

Glastonbury

The battle is in the capital:

"Explosion and gunfire reported in Ankara

Posted at

22:52

The AFP news agency reports that a violent explosion has been heard in Ankara, while a US source tells Reuters that gunfire has been near the headquarters of the Turkish military's general staff in the capital."

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I'm no expert but surely if erdogan is pro Muslim, and the army is secular then there is huge potential for bloodshed.

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By *entadreadMan  over a year ago

Essex


"Coup attempt in Turkey according to Govt minister ...

A coup ? To take over Erdogan?

Yep - Military coup it looks like .. Details sketchy .. Huge news if true

Fucking hell ! They must have help from the outside ! Why on earth Erdogan did ? To my knowledge he wasn't a fucking dictator ! "

Really? The guy had become a megalomaniac. he had pissed off all his neighbors and only of late was he trying to make amends with the likes of Isreal, Russia and Assad,because he was scared the kurds were getting territory and becoming a threat to Turkey.

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By *oggoneMan  over a year ago

Derry


"Relatively well orchestrated coup - EU source

Posted at

Fucking weasel words from the EU - they're calling it 'well orchestrated' - makes it sound like a day at the races...

.

22:35

A European Union source tells the Reuters news agency: "It looks like a relatively well orchestrated coup by a substantial body of the military, not just a few colonels." "They control several strategic points in Istanbul. Given the scale of the operation, it is difficult to imagine they will stop short of prevailing," the source adds."

Given the strategic importance of Turkey, i would be surprised if the US and NATO didn't have prior notice

There are very credible allegations that he has been supporting ISIS. His son was also involved in buying oil from isis.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"I'm no expert but surely if erdogan is pro Muslim, and the army is secular then there is huge potential for bloodshed. "

Possibly. With Erdogan asking supporters to take to the streets, let's hope it doesn't kick off into a civil war

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"From what people are saying it seems efficient and not violent, which is a blessing at least."

That's going to change....

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

president edrogen has spoke saying it will all be over shortly!! It will not be successful ,,

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Friend of mine just posted this on FB:

" I was at an event yesterday delivered by Dr Dave Sloggett (Google him, he's quite interesting...) He claimed to have predicted the Tunisia beach attacks. When he said it I thought bullshit, but he then followed that by saying "if you have a trip to Turkey planned, please, please don't go...."

I did Google Sloggett...

Hopefully it's not the US snake-oil salesman but this one, who sounds in the loop. Who's yr friend?

"Dr Dave Sloggett has spent over 40 years working with the United Kingdom military forces as a scientific advisor and analyst. His work has led him to visit Northern Ireland, Kosovo, Iraq and Afghanistan on numerous occasions. He is a recognised authority on Counter Insurgency (COIN) operations and is used as an advisor by NATO to lecture on this subject in support of training missions seeking to help countries establish their own military forces. Today he writes for a wide range of publications and is a strategic advisor to IHS-Janes the publishing company, an organisation for which he is also a regular contributor to their on-line webinars and their publications, such as Janes Intelligence Review, Janes Defence Weekly, Janes Navy International and Janes Islamic Affairs Analysis."

"

My friend isn't a conspiracy theory type of guy, and the conference was on terrorism and delivered to public sector institutions, amongst others - can't say he's not snake oil, but it makes me think otherwise.

But hey - experts schmexperts. Who.knows?

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By *iamondjoeMan  over a year ago

Glastonbury

Oh lookee here... BoJo to the rescue:

Boris Johnson on Twitter

Very concerned by events unfolding in Turkey. Our Embassy is monitoring the situation closely. Brits should follow FCO website for advice

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Blimey

This is why we have news, dear

I know, I get mine from the Fab forum

Good thing I'm here then

Even you got your heads up on this here

Yes, again you're late - someone else has already poked fun at me for that "

Payback

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By *entadreadMan  over a year ago

Essex


"It's all a bit strange and to be honest I don't really

understand it all.

But I'm a bit of a plane geek ( shhhh ) I have a flight track app and over the last hour the majority of flights over turkey are being diverted onto other flight paths. It's all very strange watching "

Geeks are awesome

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By *iamondjoeMan  over a year ago

Glastonbury


"Blimey

This is why we have news, dear

I know, I get mine from the Fab forum

Good thing I'm here then

Even you got your heads up on this here

Yes, again you're late - someone else has already poked fun at me for that

Payback "

For what?! lol

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By *inky-MinxWoman  over a year ago

Grantham


"Oh lookee here... BoJo to the rescue:

Boris Johnson on Twitter

Very concerned by events unfolding in Turkey. Our Embassy is monitoring the situation closely. Brits should follow FCO website for advice"

I just read that tweet

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Oh lookee here... BoJo to the rescue:

Boris Johnson on Twitter

Very concerned by events unfolding in Turkey. Our Embassy is monitoring the situation closely. Brits should follow FCO website for advice"

Good old Bojo, he can get back to brandy and cigars in the drawing room now

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Only advice on fco is avoid public places

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By *iamondjoeMan  over a year ago

Glastonbury


"Oh lookee here... BoJo to the rescue:

Boris Johnson on Twitter

Very concerned by events unfolding in Turkey. Our Embassy is monitoring the situation closely. Brits should follow FCO website for advice

Good old Bojo, he can get back to brandy and cigars in the drawing room now "

Aww. His first Tweet in the job. Bless. Needs more wiff waff

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By *iamondjoeMan  over a year ago

Glastonbury

Still fighting in the capital...

23:07

Journalist Jonny Hogg tweets from central Ankara: Large explosion 'shook windows'

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By *inky-MinxWoman  over a year ago

Grantham


"Aww. His first Tweet in the job. Bless. Needs more wiff waff"

I doubt he wrote it.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I've gone cold Turkey

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By *inky-MinxWoman  over a year ago

Grantham

Are the military facing opposition then? With their leader about to flee.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Bbc news showing live images of

People crossing one of the bridges and cowering down from gun fire as they try to get across.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Oh lookee here... BoJo to the rescue:

Boris Johnson on Twitter

Very concerned by events unfolding in Turkey. Our Embassy is monitoring the situation closely. Brits should follow FCO website for advice

Good old Bojo, he can get back to brandy and cigars in the drawing room now

Aww. His first Tweet in the job. Bless. Needs more wiff waff"

What is he meant to do then? Sit on his hands? Fly out there?

Come on all you piss taking smart arses. Educate me on what he is meant to do.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"president edrogen has spoke saying it will all be over shortly!! It will not be successful ,, "

Edrogen is a dictator in waiting and neo-islamists who has been kurbing the freedom of his own citizens. The west only supports him because he accepted our money for detaining asylum seekers sent back from Europe, thoroughly unpleasant man. Ever since Ataturk the Turkish army have step to defend democracy and quell non secularism.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Are the military facing opposition then? With their leader about to flee."

From what I understand it's the military turning against there leader

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By *iamondjoeMan  over a year ago

Glastonbury

23:07

Erdogan statement on FaceTime

President Erdogan called on Turks to take to the streets in a surreal interview with CNN Türk, in which he was forced to speak to the network via a mobile phone and FaceTime.

I urge the Turkish people to gather at public squares and airports. ... There is no power higher than the power of the people.”

He added that he believes the coup attempt will be thwarted soon, and that there will be a “strong response” to those responsible for the coup attempt. They will receive the “heavy price”, he said.

The president was speaking from an undisclosed location, and NBC News, citing an anonymous US military source, said that his plane had been refused landing rights in Istanbul.

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By *uzy444Woman  over a year ago

in the suffolk countryside


"The world is fuck up "
its been designed that way, so they can bring in harsher 'military' measures, cos we wanted to leave big brother and now bigger brother is making its stand..hahaha..the plot is so corny, you wouldn't believe anyone would fall for it, but most people have..

its called human herding...

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By *iamondjoeMan  over a year ago

Glastonbury

If the plebs don't riot he's fucked.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Oh lookee here... BoJo to the rescue:

Boris Johnson on Twitter

Very concerned by events unfolding in Turkey. Our Embassy is monitoring the situation closely. Brits should follow FCO website for advice

Good old Bojo, he can get back to brandy and cigars in the drawing room now

Aww. His first Tweet in the job. Bless. Needs more wiff waff

What is he meant to do then? Sit on his hands? Fly out there?

Come on all you piss taking smart arses. Educate me on what he is meant to do."

Zip wire over there and bash 'em with his shooting stick

Huzzah for Boris

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By *inky-MinxWoman  over a year ago

Grantham

So he wants to turn the public into cannon fodder?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"The world is fuck up its been designed that way, so they can bring in harsher 'military' measures, cos we wanted to leave big brother and now bigger brother is making its stand..hahaha..the plot is so corny, you wouldn't believe anyone would fall for it, but most people have..

its called human herding..."

Indeed. Looks like you have been reading Orwell, like me.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

In the EU referendum people lamented the fact that foreign holidays would cost more.

With the madness in the world Bognor seems appealing.

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By *inky-MinxWoman  over a year ago

Grantham


"Are the military facing opposition then? With their leader about to flee.

From what I understand it's the military turning against there leader "

Yes that's what's happening, though I can't tell if there is any actual opposition to them doing that.

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By *iamondjoeMan  over a year ago

Glastonbury


"In the EU referendum people lamented the fact that foreign holidays would cost more.

With the madness in the world Bognor seems appealing.

"

Say it ain't so - anywhere but Bognor

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Are the military facing opposition then? With their leader about to flee.

From what I understand it's the military turning against there leader

Yes that's what's happening, though I can't tell if there is any actual opposition to them doing that."

It seems like the right thing to do.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"In the EU referendum people lamented the fact that foreign holidays would cost more.

With the madness in the world Bognor seems appealing.

Say it ain't so - anywhere but Bognor "

Bugger Bognor as George V supposedly said!

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By *iamondjoeMan  over a year ago

Glastonbury


"Are the military facing opposition then? With their leader about to flee.

From what I understand it's the military turning against there leader

Yes that's what's happening, though I can't tell if there is any actual opposition to them doing that."

Yes; police, police special forces and Interior Ministry troops.

Although the Turkish army is the 2nd largest in NATO after the US... so they hold a lot of cards and the president has given them *a lot* of new weapons recently...

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By *uzy444Woman  over a year ago

in the suffolk countryside


"The world is fuck up its been designed that way, so they can bring in harsher 'military' measures, cos we wanted to leave big brother and now bigger brother is making its stand..hahaha..the plot is so corny, you wouldn't believe anyone would fall for it, but most people have..

its called human herding...

Indeed. Looks like you have been reading Orwell, like me."

no just read belins theory of positive and negative liberty..read up on who knows who. what they want and studied and observed psychology/ sociology and human behaviour patterns all my life ..orwell was a bit boring..this is quite a show...got any popcorn? x

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"If the plebs don't riot he's fucked. "

They've gotta go soon if they're gonna go, otherwise it's over.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Are the military facing opposition then? With their leader about to flee.

From what I understand it's the military turning against there leader

Yes that's what's happening, though I can't tell if there is any actual opposition to them doing that.

It seems like the right thing to do."

Until it descends into civil war with ISIS trying to flood the country.

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By *iamondjoeMan  over a year ago

Glastonbury


"If the plebs don't riot he's fucked.

They've gotta go soon if they're gonna go, otherwise it's over."

The popular support for Erdogan is in the towns and countryside - not the cities.

But the economy's tanked, corruption widespread... it's the undermining of the secular state that the military are unhappy about but the president's supporters (in theory) support.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Are the military facing opposition then? With their leader about to flee.

From what I understand it's the military turning against there leader

Yes that's what's happening, though I can't tell if there is any actual opposition to them doing that.

It seems like the right thing to do.

Until it descends into civil war with ISIS trying to flood the country."

The president is pro Isis.

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By *iamondjoeMan  over a year ago

Glastonbury


"If the plebs don't riot he's fucked.

They've gotta go soon if they're gonna go, otherwise it's over."

Here we go...

Reports of clashes in Istanbul's Taksim Square

Posted at

23:25

Supporters of President Erdogan turned out to Taksim Square in the centre of Istanbul as reports of the attempted coup emerged.

There have since been reports of clashes there, with some on Twitter saying that gunfire has been heard near the square.

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By *iamondjoeMan  over a year ago

Glastonbury


"Are the military facing opposition then? With their leader about to flee.

From what I understand it's the military turning against there leader

Yes that's what's happening, though I can't tell if there is any actual opposition to them doing that.

It seems like the right thing to do.

Until it descends into civil war with ISIS trying to flood the country.

The president is pro Isis."

*sighs*

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

ISIS cunts would never penetrate Turkey with Erdogan in charge. It could happen if the country descends into civil war, though.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Are the military facing opposition then? With their leader about to flee.

From what I understand it's the military turning against there leader

Yes that's what's happening, though I can't tell if there is any actual opposition to them doing that.

It seems like the right thing to do.

Until it descends into civil war with ISIS trying to flood the country.

The president is pro Isis."

Precisely. They're not known for standing by quietly.

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By *iamondjoeMan  over a year ago

Glastonbury


"Are the military facing opposition then? With their leader about to flee.

From what I understand it's the military turning against there leader

Yes that's what's happening, though I can't tell if there is any actual opposition to them doing that.

It seems like the right thing to do.

Until it descends into civil war with ISIS trying to flood the country.

The president is pro Isis.

Precisely. They're not known for standing by quietly."

He's winding you up

It's not true - the Turkish military have been fighting Islamic State quite hard... along with a bunch of other people since last year

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Can't see them joining the EU any time soon though.

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By *iamondjoeMan  over a year ago

Glastonbury


"Can't see them joining the EU any time soon though."

Yeah, I think that little ambition snuffed itself out

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Well as I sit watching live feeds from over there I can say more people are coming onto the streets.

At the moment doesn't seem to be any trouble just hundreds of men standing about looking around.

No doubt it's not going to remain line this.

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By *inky-MinxWoman  over a year ago

Grantham


"Can't see them joining the EU any time soon though.

Yeah, I think that little ambition snuffed itself out "

Not that it matters, that's next for collapse

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple  over a year ago

in Lancashire

live link on youtube and it looks like the military are firing at people trying to cross one of the bridges..

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By *ewels74Woman  over a year ago

Dundee/Angus/Blackpool

The world is getting depressing....can we rewind back 3 yrs or something

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By *iamondjoeMan  over a year ago

Glastonbury

Troops 'trying to clear media at Istanbul protest'

Posted at

23:33

Journalist Oz Katerji has been broadcasting on Facebook Live from the protest at Istanbul's Taksim Square. He says the military are taking control of the area, as shots are fired.

Protesters 'gather outside parliament in Ankara'

Posted at

23:30

A government MP has sent the BBC photos he says show protesters near the parliament building in Ankara.

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By *inky-MinxWoman  over a year ago

Grantham


"The world is getting depressing....can we rewind back 3 yrs or something"

History is full of wars and atrocities, they just weren't always streamed live so we knew what was going on

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"live link on youtube and it looks like the military are firing at people trying to cross one of the bridges.."

Yeah got that on bbc news too

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Who would go to turkey for a holiday? I wouldn't and I think it's about time it was removed from being a holiday destination. The day me and my daughter were coming home from Alcudia there were posters up in Palma airport an even Cardiff airport when we got home saying about the terrorist attack the night before in the airport over there.

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By *ewels74Woman  over a year ago

Dundee/Angus/Blackpool


"The world is getting depressing....can we rewind back 3 yrs or something

History is full of wars and atrocities, they just weren't always streamed live so we knew what was going on "

I know

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By *iamondjoeMan  over a year ago

Glastonbury

That'll teach me to go have a fag...

10m ago

23:36

Tanks open fire - reports

Tanks have opened fire near the Turkish parliament building, Reuters reports, following similar reports from NTV and local journalists about gunfire in Ankara and Istanbul.

Protesters have heard Erdogan’s call to take to the streets, though, and some are chanting “shoulder to shoulder against the coup”. Others have squared off with military forces who’ve closed bridges and streets. In one video, a policeman and military officer argue in a crowd in the street; in another, cars jammed in traffic honked horns in unison as people mill among them. In a third, a crowd sings and lifts up a huge Turkish flag.

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By *iamondjoeMan  over a year ago

Glastonbury

Counter coup underway

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Why would you support that regime?

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By *oncupiscentTonyMan  over a year ago

Kent

Wish Paxo hadn't retired from newsnight

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By *iamondjoeMan  over a year ago

Glastonbury


"Why would you support that regime? "

Erdogan's?

He's not on my Xmas card list but then he don't care 'cos he don't do Xmas

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By *iamondjoeMan  over a year ago

Glastonbury

Call to prayer starting hours early

Posted at

23:51

There are plenty of reports on social media that the dawn call to prayer has been heard coming from mosques in Istanbul hours ahead of schedule.

A Bloomberg correspondent in Istanbul tweets:

Call to prayer has been going for about ten minutes now. in the middle of the night, this isn't normal. Beautiful but very eerie.

Isobel Finkel

Call to prayer has been going for about ten minutes now. in the middle of the night, this isn't normal. Beautiful but very eerie.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Why !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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By *iamondjoeMan  over a year ago

Glastonbury


"Why !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

Read the Newsweek article

WILL THERE BE A COUP AGAINST ERDOGAN IN TURKEY?

from 4 months ago...

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By *iamondjoeMan  over a year ago

Glastonbury

News of the bleedin' obvious...

BBC: Here in Turkey there is confusion

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Nmc habe just said jets have taken a heli down

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By *iamondjoeMan  over a year ago

Glastonbury


"Nmc habe just said jets have taken a heli down"

Yep

Report: Army helicopter downed by Turkish fighter jet

Posted at

00:09

Turkish broadcaster NTV reports that a Sikorsky helicopter belonging to the army group attempting a coup has been downed by a Turkish military F-16 jet.

This is only one report so far, so we will bring you more on this when we get it.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Where is all the worlds unrest going to end guys pretty fucked up at the moment

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By *iamondjoeMan  over a year ago

Glastonbury

Ooohhh! Ombama's been gotten out of bed:

1m ago

00:17

Obama: support democratically elected government

The White House has just released a statement on the reports of an attempted coup, saying that Barack Obama and secretary of state John Kerry “agreed that all parties in Turkey should support the democratically-elected Government of Turkey, show restraint, and avoid any violence or bloodshed”.

The state department will “continue to focus on the safety and security of US citizens in Turkey,” the statement added.

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By *iamondjoeMan  over a year ago

Glastonbury

Will Erdogan survive?

Will the plotters take control of the country?

Will the Turkish people stand up for their president?

After the break...

...more speculation.

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By *iamondjoeMan  over a year ago

Glastonbury

Coup's over folks...

.

Erdogan's plane landing in Istanbul, official says

9m ago

01:41

Reuters and others report that president Recep Erdogan’s plane is landing in Istanbul:

Police chief: '104 soldiers involved in coup attempt'

Posted at

01:43

Istanbul Police Chief says only 104 soldiers involved in TurkeyCoup. Leader named as Col Muharrem Kose, recently dismissed as Gulen member.

.

As you were.

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By *iamondjoeMan  over a year ago

Glastonbury

Real-time coup?

Wow.

Is this the future?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Coup over...... Erdogan will now have more of a mandate to take the country down a more Islamic route?

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