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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"No no, i dont believe anything, im just asking what it is, that certifies to you, that you could be there yourself, like you could go to the shop, or the pub or whatever, just a question, no hidden belief  "
Physics? |
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Of course it exists. Usually its the over abundance of space between the good persons of fab that result in daydreaming of meets rather than the re-living of meets! |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"I look up into the sky and there it is.
Unless you believe it's all a hologram and the earth is flat. Like many do. "
No no, i dont believe anything, im just asking a question, what is it, that makes you think that you or i could be there right now, like we could the shop, or the pub, for example? |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Sky telly will do for me, and the space station you can see hurtle through the sky with the naked eye."
Thats in leo (low earth orbit)
Which isnt technically space |
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"No no, i dont believe anything, im just asking what it is, that certifies to you, that you could be there yourself, like you could go to the shop, or the pub or whatever, just a question, no hidden belief
Physics? "
Define what you mean by that? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"No no, i dont believe anything, im just asking what it is, that certifies to you, that you could be there yourself, like you could go to the shop, or the pub or whatever, just a question, no hidden belief
Physics?
Define what you mean by that?"
A set of defined and testable laws that we use to understand the world around us. As in, the reason you would sleep in a 50 story hotel and not worry about it falling down in the night - because it had been built according to the laws of physics so it won't fall down |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"I'm not sure what you mean by space? It's definetely out there. "
Just the one that nasa go to all the time with different planets and stuff.. I mean.. Van allen radiation belt? |
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"No no, i dont believe anything, im just asking what it is, that certifies to you, that you could be there yourself, like you could go to the shop, or the pub or whatever, just a question, no hidden belief
Physics?
Define what you mean by that?
A set of defined and testable laws that we use to understand the world around us. As in, the reason you would sleep in a 50 story hotel and not worry about it falling down in the night - because it had been built according to the laws of physics so it won't fall down "
Ok, yes of cours, apologies, i mean contextually, how does that apply to my question? The building.. Is here on the ground.. Earth.. But 'up there' is a little different.. Its supposed to be a vaccum? But.. Its next to.. Our atmosphere..? I dont get that..
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"I'm not sure what you mean by space? It's definetely out there.
Just the one that nasa go to all the time with different planets and stuff.. I mean.. Van allen radiation belt?"
The non constant belt with gaping holes in it
Yes it is a problem (many of the appolo astronauts who passed through it have develoepd cancer and had thier thyroid removed) but its not insurmountable.
But given your line of argument can i leap ahead youre one of those people who belives in soace you need constant thrust to move dont you
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By (user no longer on site)
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"No no, i dont believe anything, im just asking what it is, that certifies to you, that you could be there yourself, like you could go to the shop, or the pub or whatever, just a question, no hidden belief
Physics?
Define what you mean by that?
A set of defined and testable laws that we use to understand the world around us. As in, the reason you would sleep in a 50 story hotel and not worry about it falling down in the night - because it had been built according to the laws of physics so it won't fall down
Ok, yes of cours, apologies, i mean contextually, how does that apply to my question? The building.. Is here on the ground.. Earth.. But 'up there' is a little different.. Its supposed to be a vaccum? But.. Its next to.. Our atmosphere..? I dont get that..
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Well the same company that builds most the planes you use to go on holiday (boeing) also build the rockets that take people to space. They build both using the same principles.
Since we know planes work and can take you to Japan, why wouldn't rockets be able to take you to the moon? |
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"I look up into the sky and there it is.
Unless you believe it's all a hologram and the earth is flat. Like many do.
No no, i dont believe anything, im just asking a question, what is it, that makes you think that you or i could be there right now, like we could the shop, or the pub, for example?"
not what, who. Richard Branson and his idea of commercial flights to space? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I look up into the sky and there it is.
Unless you believe it's all a hologram and the earth is flat. Like many do.
No no, i dont believe anything, im just asking a question, what is it, that makes you think that you or i could be there right now, like we could the shop, or the pub, for example?"
Well if we had access to a multi billion pound rocket to propel us up there, I'm sure we could.
Some think the moon landings were fake and it's beyond human endeavour to get there. Others think there are Nazi (or even alien) bases on the far side of the moon.
Others say that space aliens encountered astronauts on the moon and warned us off there (which is why we haven't been back in decades)
Me? I like kittens. |
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By *inzi LTV/TS
over a year ago
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"What is it, that confirms to you, that space exists, and is reachable by humans?"
It does exist and I have my own, I like to keep it that way unless I invite you in. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I'm not sure what you mean by space? It's definetely out there.
Just the one that nasa go to all the time with different planets and stuff.. I mean.. Van allen radiation belt?"
That's around our planet. We have others planets nearish to us. We all go around our sun. That's our solar system There are other Suns a lot further away and they have their own systems. I can go on but I'm not sure what you don't know. These are all visible, some to the naked eye, some with telescopes. They're all plainly there. I'm completely puzzled here tbh. |
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"No no, i dont believe anything, im just asking what it is, that certifies to you, that you could be there yourself, like you could go to the shop, or the pub or whatever, just a question, no hidden belief
Physics?
Define what you mean by that?
A set of defined and testable laws that we use to understand the world around us. As in, the reason you would sleep in a 50 story hotel and not worry about it falling down in the night - because it had been built according to the laws of physics so it won't fall down
Ok, yes of cours, apologies, i mean contextually, how does that apply to my question? The building.. Is here on the ground.. Earth.. But 'up there' is a little different.. Its supposed to be a vaccum? But.. Its next to.. Our atmosphere..? I dont get that..
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Because the atmosphere is held to the earth by gravity (and somewhat protected by our magnetic feild qhich deflects solar winds from stripping it slowly away)
Mars lost its magnetic feild ans it is kuch smaller and so its atmosphere slowly boiled away.
You mention vaccum but do you understand the pressure youre under now?
About 14psi
14 pounds of pressure bearing down on every inch of syour skin from all angles thats caused by the weight of that atmosphere above you.
It is not uniform it slowly gets less dense more spread out and of lighter elements
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"Sky telly will do for me, and the space station you can see hurtle through the sky with the naked eye.
Thats in leo (low earth orbit)
Which isnt technically space"
Actually it is in geostationary orbit....several times higher than the space station.....so yes. It is in space. If it was in the atmosphere then friction from the air would decelerate it and it would fall down (that's physics too...and yes, I do have a degree in said subject) |
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"No no, i dont believe anything, im just asking what it is, that certifies to you, that you could be there yourself, like you could go to the shop, or the pub or whatever, just a question, no hidden belief
Physics?
Define what you mean by that?
A set of defined and testable laws that we use to understand the world around us. As in, the reason you would sleep in a 50 story hotel and not worry about it falling down in the night - because it had been built according to the laws of physics so it won't fall down
Ok, yes of cours, apologies, i mean contextually, how does that apply to my question? The building.. Is here on the ground.. Earth.. But 'up there' is a little different.. Its supposed to be a vaccum? But.. Its next to.. Our atmosphere..? I dont get that..
Because the atmosphere is held to the earth by gravity (and somewhat protected by our magnetic feild qhich deflects solar winds from stripping it slowly away)
Mars lost its magnetic feild ans it is kuch smaller and so its atmosphere slowly boiled away.
You mention vaccum but do you understand the pressure youre under now?
About 14psi
14 pounds of pressure bearing down on every inch of syour skin from all angles thats caused by the weight of that atmosphere above you.
It is not uniform it slowly gets less dense more spread out and of lighter elements
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Well said. The OP should brush up on basic physics. |
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I've been close to it and my belief in its existence is based on published scientific research which seems to back up my beliefs. The moon, the sun, other planets and stars all seem distant from us, with space in between. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Sky telly will do for me, and the space station you can see hurtle through the sky with the naked eye.
Thats in leo (low earth orbit)
Which isnt technically space
Actually it is in geostationary orbit....several times higher than the space station.....so yes. It is in space. If it was in the atmosphere then friction from the air would decelerate it and it would fall down (that's physics too...and yes, I do have a degree in said subject)"
Sky tv and communication satellites are not in the geosynchronous belt they are much much lower.
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"I've been close to it and my belief in its existence is based on published scientific research which seems to back up my beliefs. The moon, the sun, other planets and stars all seem distant from us, with space in between."
Flat earthers believe the sun is only about 3,000 miles away
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By (user no longer on site)
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Hey I believe we live a parallel universe, Einstein believed this , thus many other scientist. Black hole theory's amaze me , Stephen Hawkins speaks deeply about this. X |
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"Sky telly will do for me, and the space station you can see hurtle through the sky with the naked eye.
Thats in leo (low earth orbit)
Which isnt technically space
Actually it is in geostationary orbit....several times higher than the space station.....so yes. It is in space. If it was in the atmosphere then friction from the air would decelerate it and it would fall down (that's physics too...and yes, I do have a degree in said subject)
Sky tv and communication satellites are not in the geosynchronous belt they are much much lower.
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If course sky is geosynchronous. Otherwise your dish would need to keep moving in order to follow it and it would lose all communications when around the other side of the Earth. As your dish points to just one position in space the sky sat needs to remain in that one place, relative to Earth. Simple fact.
If you are in a strange place and wish to know what direction is South...just look for the direction the dishes point!
Geosynchronous means it remains in the same place relative to Earth. It is the only way it works fir such a satellite. |
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"Hey I believe we live a parallel universe, Einstein believed this , thus many other scientist. Black hole theory's amaze me , Stephen Hawkins speaks deeply about this. X"
What is it parallel to? |
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"What is it, that confirms to you, that space exists, and is reachable by humans?"
Man has landed probes all over the solar sysyem.type hubble on google to see space..doubt we'll ever leave our solar system on manned flights though like in star trek. |
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The orbital speed of a satellite has to change depending on its height. At a particular height, above the equator a satellite will complete one orbit in the same time it takes for the Earth to rotate...hence it stays above the same geographical point on the Earths surface. A lower orbit requires a higher speed to counter the greater gravitational force. And vice versa.
The physics isn't hard to follow....even for a layman. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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It's like a nerd fight in here, excellent!
Anyway, Planet X (Nibaru) - when's that gonna turn up and cause Armageddon? It was meant to be in 2012 according to all the Mayan calendar apocalyptic scenarios, but it all passed relatively without incident (touch wood) didn't it ? |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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Wow, didnt realise a simple question could bring forward so much energy, in respomse to claims about physics, i dont claim to be educated.. I just asked a question.. No malice inteded, its nice to hear what everybody has collectively learned, i just think the thing i struggle with, is the fact that...
Rockets always tail off.. Never actually going too high...
All images are cgi/composite..
Satellites in the thermosphere.. But not in pics of earth.?
And doesnt everybody have a hd cam on thier phone now? Why hasnt anyone taken one up?
Only asking questions, its how we learn.. Peace to all
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Seeing as it's a vacuum is this a trick question, seeing as it could be argued that it doesn't exist seeing as apart from physical objects IN space, plus light waves and all that mullarkey, space is the absence of something?
Not that I know anything about this of course. |
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"Hey I believe we live a parallel universe, Einstein believed this , thus many other scientist. Black hole theory's amaze me , Stephen Hawkins speaks deeply about this. X
What is it parallel to? "
At no time ever did Einstein talk about parallel universes. Einstein did however describe spacetime as a single concept and gravity, not as a force, but as a curvature in this space time.
If anyone can find a genuine quote from Einstein about a parallel universe I would be glad to hear it.
The actual word universe or universal means 'everything in existence' so the word universe actually excludes the existence of more than one...but that's grammatical semantics rather than physics. |
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"Hey I believe we live a parallel universe, Einstein believed this , thus many other scientist. Black hole theory's amaze me , Stephen Hawkins speaks deeply about this. X
What is it parallel to? "
A black hole would need to be large and if it was rotating it might have a passage to another universe. But you couldn’t come back to our universe.,, no one knows as black holes are energy that feed on energy as such, lost energy but who knows ,
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"The orbital speed of a satellite has to change depending on its height. At a particular height, above the equator a satellite will complete one orbit in the same time it takes for the Earth to rotate...hence it stays above the same geographical point on the Earths surface. A lower orbit requires a higher speed to counter the greater gravitational force. And vice versa.
The physics isn't hard to follow....even for a layman."
And for high latitude locations eliptical orbits alow a satalite to spend a large period of time roughly over the same geographical area.
Which means you can use much lower power transmitters than if youre trying to reach all the way out to the geo belt.
Its how the russians built thier communications net works.
Lots of satelites that "sweep" up and down when looked at on a map |
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If you are in a strange place and wish to know what direction is South...just look for the direction the dishes point!
Geosynchronous means it remains in the same place relative to Earth. It is the only way it works fir such a satellite."
except south of the equator, then they point north, i think .
but for the op they are definitely pointing to space , not much debate there |
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"Wow, didnt realise a simple question could bring forward so much energy, in respomse to claims about physics, i dont claim to be educated.. I just asked a question.. No malice inteded, its nice to hear what everybody has collectively learned, i just think the thing i struggle with, is the fact that...
Rockets always tail off.. Never actually going too high...
All images are cgi/composite..
Satellites in the thermosphere.. But not in pics of earth.?
And doesnt everybody have a hd cam on thier phone now? Why hasnt anyone taken one up?
Only asking questions, its how we learn.. Peace to all
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You quote your questions but not the evidence that strongly supports that space exists. Perhaps you could add that, for balance. |
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"Wow, didnt realise a simple question could bring forward so much energy, in respomse to claims about physics, i dont claim to be educated.. I just asked a question.. No malice inteded, its nice to hear what everybody has collectively learned, i just think the thing i struggle with, is the fact that...
Rockets always tail off.. Never actually going too high...
All images are cgi/composite..
Satellites in the thermosphere.. But not in pics of earth.?
And doesnt everybody have a hd cam on thier phone now? Why hasnt anyone taken one up?
Only asking questions, its how we learn.. Peace to all
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Such nonsense..none of your statements make any sense.
Download the Nasa app and you will see live pictures from the space station. (Cgi obviously)
How do you get through life with such flawed logic? |
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"The orbital speed of a satellite has to change depending on its height. At a particular height, above the equator a satellite will complete one orbit in the same time it takes for the Earth to rotate...hence it stays above the same geographical point on the Earths surface. A lower orbit requires a higher speed to counter the greater gravitational force. And vice versa.
The physics isn't hard to follow....even for a layman.
And for high latitude locations eliptical orbits alow a satalite to spend a large period of time roughly over the same geographical area.
Which means you can use much lower power transmitters than if youre trying to reach all the way out to the geo belt.
Its how the russians built thier communications net works.
Lots of satelites that "sweep" up and down when looked at on a map"
Largely over the same geographical region is not good enough for your dish.....
For reference the sky Astra satellite can be found at longitude 28.2 degrees east and 35,768km above the equator in a geosynchronous orbit! |
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"The orbital speed of a satellite has to change depending on its height. At a particular height, above the equator a satellite will complete one orbit in the same time it takes for the Earth to rotate...hence it stays above the same geographical point on the Earths surface. A lower orbit requires a higher speed to counter the greater gravitational force. And vice versa.
The physics isn't hard to follow....even for a layman.
And for high latitude locations eliptical orbits alow a satalite to spend a large period of time roughly over the same geographical area.
Which means you can use much lower power transmitters than if youre trying to reach all the way out to the geo belt.
Its how the russians built thier communications net works.
Lots of satelites that "sweep" up and down when looked at on a map
Largely over the same geographical region is not good enough for your dish.....
For reference the sky Astra satellite can be found at longitude 28.2 degrees east and 35,768km above the equator in a geosynchronous orbit!"
Fair enough it's been a very long time since i looked at this stuff guessing things have moved on in times.
Googleing though found the name of it molniya orbit its what russian tv networks used to use. |
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"What is it, that confirms to you, that space exists, and is reachable by humans?.....you mean. . Space. ..the final frontier?
How many ears does Captain Kirk have?"
....go on then. ... I don't know. .how many ears dors captain kirk have?.  |
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"Wow, didnt realise a simple question could bring forward so much energy, in respomse to claims about physics, i dont claim to be educated.. I just asked a question.. No malice inteded, its nice to hear what everybody has collectively learned, i just think the thing i struggle with, is the fact that...
Rockets always tail off.. Never actually going too high...
All images are cgi/composite..
Satellites in the thermosphere.. But not in pics of earth.?
And doesnt everybody have a hd cam on thier phone now? Why hasnt anyone taken one up?
Only asking questions, its how we learn.. Peace to all
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You can watch hd video from the ISS daily?
Are you saying you expect to see satelites in pictures taken of earth?
I'll answer that with dust is everywhere in the air (you can flance it in a sun beam) but you don't see the world like a fog do you? |
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"Wow, didnt realise a simple question could bring forward so much energy, in respomse to claims about physics, i dont claim to be educated.. I just asked a question.. No malice inteded, its nice to hear what everybody has collectively learned, i just think the thing i struggle with, is the fact that...
Rockets always tail off.. Never actually going too high...
All images are cgi/composite..
Satellites in the thermosphere.. But not in pics of earth.?
And doesnt everybody have a hd cam on thier phone now? Why hasnt anyone taken one up?
Only asking questions, its how we learn.. Peace to all
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What rockets are you on about ? The ones that are designed to go into space do so, the ones that aren't, don't .
Images, what images are you on about ?
Hd cameras have been sent up in unmanned amateur rockets, if your meaning astronauts why would they use a phone when they are taking proper recording equipment with them
And not managing to take pictures of satalites you do understand the idea of scale ? The size of a satalites in comparison to the earth is miniscule, imagine me standing on the top of a block of flats and trying to take a picture of an ant on the ground, you know they are there but your not going to see them in the picture |
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"Yes. What else would be out there? The question is what is space made up of? "
Well the moon is made of cheese, that much I know. Saw it on a documentary. |
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"If there's no gravity in space why don't all the planets float away?"
The moon has been moving away from the earth for a looong time. Each year it moves about 4cm away from us.
In the past, our days were shorter and the moon appeared much, much larger in the sky. That meant that its effect upon earth was stronger - tides were greater. Other objects in space have a gratitational effect on others - the sun affects us but is much further away than the moon.
In future, our day and month length will alter significantly but we'll all be dead, before clocks, calendars etc need to be changed. |
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"What is it, that confirms to you, that space exists, and is reachable by humans?
What?
LOL
Hmm.
I'm thinking this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTEFKFiXSx4"
Dude, see you and raise...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gnEcJyjkYD4 |
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"What is it, that confirms to you, that space exists, and is reachable by humans?
What?
LOL
Hmm.
I'm thinking this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTEFKFiXSx4
Dude, see you and raise...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gnEcJyjkYD4"
Oh eck. FIVE minutes!?! Me (burned)rice needs eating.Will give it a gander in a bit. |
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"What is it, that confirms to you, that space exists, and is reachable by humans?
What?
LOL
Hmm.
I'm thinking this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTEFKFiXSx4
Dude, see you and raise...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gnEcJyjkYD4
Oh eck. FIVE minutes!?! Me (burned)rice needs eating.Will give it a gander in a bit."
Conclusive proof of alien life
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Ok6CoIwcJ-E&client=mv-vf-uk&safesearch=always |
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By *uzy444Woman
over a year ago
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Before this body of yours
You were pure soul.
Know yourself apart from your garment. Rumi??
Science says that we are 0.00001 percent matter and 99.99999 percent empty space.
"A fundamental conclusion of the new physics acknowledges that the observer creates the reality. As observers, we are personally involved with the creation of our own reality. Physicists are being forced to admit that the universe is a “mental” construction.
Pioneering physicist Sir James Jeans wrote: “The stream of knowledge is heading toward a non-mechanical reality; the universe begins to look more like a great thought than like a great machine.
Mind no longer appears to be an accidental intruder into the realm of matter, we ought rather hail it as the creator and governor of the realm of matter." (R. C. Henry.) |
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"I look up into the sky and there it is.
Unless you believe it's all a hologram and the earth is flat. Like many do. "
As president of the Flat Earth Society, I am pleased to announce that membership has now reached the four corners of the globe.
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"I look up into the sky and there it is.
Unless you believe it's all a hologram and the earth is flat. Like many do.
As president of the Flat Earth Society, I am pleased to announce that membership has now reached the four corners of the globe.
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By *uzy444Woman
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"I look up into the sky and there it is.
Unless you believe it's all a hologram and the earth is flat. Like many do.
As president of the Flat Earth Society, I am pleased to announce that membership has now reached the four corners of the globe.
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what could really fuck with your mind is that it could be both flat and round at once and no one is 'wrong' x |
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"I look up into the sky and there it is.
Unless you believe it's all a hologram and the earth is flat. Like many do.
As president of the Flat Earth Society, I am pleased to announce that membership has now reached the four corners of the globe.
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"Yes. What else would be out there? The question is what is space made up of? "
Outer space is the closest known approximation to a perfect vacuum. It has effectively no friction, allowing stars, planets and moons to move freely along their ideal orbits.
However, even the deep vacuum of intergalactic space is not devoid of matter, as it contains a few hydrogen atoms per cubic meter.
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"What is it, that confirms to you, that space exists, and is reachable by humans?
To me it is obvious, what makes you question it OP? "
I have evidence of it; I still have some left in my garage, but there isn't much left since I put the lawn mower away last week!
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However, even the deep vacuum of intergalactic space is not devoid of matter, as it contains a few hydrogen atoms per cubic meter.
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So we know "what's the matter" what we need to know now is "does it matter"? |
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However, even the deep vacuum of intergalactic space is not devoid of matter, as it contains a few hydrogen atoms per cubic meter.
So we know "what's the matter" what we need to know now is "does it matter"?"
Yeah, then we get into the tricky problem of Hubble's observation that there isn't enough visible matter in the universe to account for the rotation of galaxies, amongst other things...
And we're into the realms of Dark Matter and Dark Energy (which I am personally skeptical of, not that I'm a physicist).
Anyway, 95% of the universe is missing |
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"I've been close to it and my belief in its existence is based on published scientific research which seems to back up my beliefs. The moon, the sun, other planets and stars all seem distant from us, with space in between.
Flat earthers believe the sun is only about 3,000 miles away
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Define flat. And while you're at it define straight in terms of a 'curved space' universe.
You can't say the world either is or isn't 'flat' without defining what 'flat' is. |
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"Yes. What else would be out there? The question is what is space made up of?
Outer space is the closest known approximation to a perfect vacuum. It has effectively no friction, allowing stars, planets and moons to move freely along their ideal orbits.
However, even the deep vacuum of intergalactic space is not devoid of matter, as it contains a few hydrogen atoms per cubic meter.
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How can there be nothing? What is the nothing that heavenly bodies float in? |
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"Yes. What else would be out there? The question is what is space made up of?
Outer space is the closest known approximation to a perfect vacuum. It has effectively no friction, allowing stars, planets and moons to move freely along their ideal orbits.
However, even the deep vacuum of intergalactic space is not devoid of matter, as it contains a few hydrogen atoms per cubic meter.
How can there be nothing? What is the nothing that heavenly bodies float in? "
As stated, an almost perfect vacuum, ie an absence of matter.
The objects you mention - stars, planets, satellites &c - don't float as such but are held, pulled or rotate around each other by gravity with effectively no friction. |
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"If there's no gravity in space why don't all the planets float away?"
There gravity in space. Gravity exists everywhere in the universe and is what ultimately causes the creation of everything. The reasons why objects may appear to be weightless in space is because all the nearby objects are falling towards a centre of gravity at the same rate/speed. A bit like when you're sifting in a car, relative to the moving car you feel motionless but you are in fact moving at the same speed as the car. When sitting in the space station you are in fact falling towards earth but the space station is falling towards earth at the same speed, so you feel weightless.
The next question to ask is, if you and the space station are constantly falling towards the earth why don't they ever hit the earth? |
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"If there's no gravity in space why don't all the planets float away?
There gravity in space. Gravity exists everywhere in the universe and is what ultimately causes the creation of everything. The reasons why objects may appear to be weightless in space is because all the nearby objects are falling towards a centre of gravity at the same rate/speed. A bit like when you're sifting in a car, relative to the moving car you feel motionless but you are in fact moving at the same speed as the car. When sitting in the space station you are in fact falling towards earth but the space station is falling towards earth at the same speed, so you feel weightless.
The next question to ask is, if you and the space station are constantly falling towards the earth why don't they ever hit the earth?"
A balancing act between gravity & velocity |
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The truth is us none important people will never reall know if there is or isn't anything out there. We get taught to believe space is real yet only selected few get to go, surely if man can make rockets that can go to the moon an back y dont we explore it more often? |
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"The truth is us none important people will never reall know if there is or isn't anything out there. We get taught to believe space is real yet only selected few get to go, surely if man can make rockets that can go to the moon an back y dont we explore it more often? "
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"I look up into the sky and there it is.
Unless you believe it's all a hologram and the earth is flat. Like many do.
As president of the Flat Earth Society, I am pleased to announce that membership has now reached the four corners of the globe.
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Just because something maybe flat does not mean it has to have either corners or edges. In fact something can be both flat (or straight) and curved at the same time. If you want to even begin to understand the nature of space and the universe you have get your head around that concept first. |
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"I look up into the sky and there it is.
Unless you believe it's all a hologram and the earth is flat. Like many do.
As president of the Flat Earth Society, I am pleased to announce that membership has now reached the four corners of the globe.
what could really fuck with your mind is that it could be both flat and round at once and no one is 'wrong' x"
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"What is it, that confirms to you, that space exists, and is reachable by humans?
To me it is obvious, what makes you question it OP? "
If it was really obvious then people would have always believed that 'space' existed whereas, in reality, for most of human existence they did not. |
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There's lots of space in my nice big comfy bed, and I can prove it.
If I can obtain a couple of female volunteers to join me in my nice big comfy bed, I'm sure they'd both agree that there would even be enough space for one more... |
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"I look up into the sky and there it is.
Unless you believe it's all a hologram and the earth is flat. Like many do.
As president of the Flat Earth Society, I am pleased to announce that membership has now reached the four corners of the globe.
Just because something maybe flat does not mean it has to have either corners or edges. In fact something can be both flat (or straight) and curved at the same time. If you want to even begin to understand the nature of space and the universe you have get your head around that concept first."
Space is non Euclidean? |
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"There's lots of space in my nice big comfy bed, and I can prove it.
If I can obtain a couple of female volunteers to join me in my nice big comfy bed, I'm sure they'd both agree that there would even be enough space for one more... "
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IxAKFlpdcfc |
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"Yes. What else would be out there? The question is what is space made up of?
Outer space is the closest known approximation to a perfect vacuum. It has effectively no friction, allowing stars, planets and moons to move freely along their ideal orbits.
However, even the deep vacuum of intergalactic space is not devoid of matter, as it contains a few hydrogen atoms per cubic meter.
How can there be nothing? What is the nothing that heavenly bodies float in? "
They don't float, they all fall towards the strongest centre of gravity. The moon is constantly falling towards the earth (even if it is getting further away), the earth and all planets in the solar system are constantly falling towards the sun, and the sun is constantly falling towards the centre of the Milkyway. |
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"If there's no gravity in space why don't all the planets float away?
There gravity in space. Gravity exists everywhere in the universe and is what ultimately causes the creation of everything. The reasons why objects may appear to be weightless in space is because all the nearby objects are falling towards a centre of gravity at the same rate/speed. A bit like when you're sifting in a car, relative to the moving car you feel motionless but you are in fact moving at the same speed as the car. When sitting in the space station you are in fact falling towards earth but the space station is falling towards earth at the same speed, so you feel weightless.
The next question to ask is, if you and the space station are constantly falling towards the earth why don't they ever hit the earth?
A balancing act between gravity & velocity"
In practice yes but in terms of physics it's because the point on the earths surface that it is falling towards is falling away from it at the same rate. |
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"I look up into the sky and there it is.
Unless you believe it's all a hologram and the earth is flat. Like many do.
As president of the Flat Earth Society, I am pleased to announce that membership has now reached the four corners of the globe.
Just because something maybe flat does not mean it has to have either corners or edges. In fact something can be both flat (or straight) and curved at the same time. If you want to even begin to understand the nature of space and the universe you have get your head around that concept first.
Space is non Euclidean?"
I think it is, at least in terms of Newtonian Gravity, which is as far as we need to go when working out orbits. It has more to do with varying perspectives in a multidimensional universe. |
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"What is it, that confirms to you, that space exists, and is reachable by humans?
To me it is obvious, what makes you question it OP?
If it was really obvious then people would have always believed that 'space' existed whereas, in reality, for most of human existence they did not. "
I think you will find that in all human existence the realisation of a gap between planets moons and sun's has been believed in. what went round what was questioned, along with the shapes of the objects. But pretty sure all belief has had a gap between which we currently call space in English.
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"The truth is us none important people will never reall know if there is or isn't anything out there. We get taught to believe space is real yet only selected few get to go, surely if man can make rockets that can go to the moon an back y dont we explore it more often?
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Quite simply it's a bit dull, bit like many seaside towns in England, you have the ability to go... once upon a time people did go, but it's pretty dull, so why go back. |
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Not sure that the existence of the solar system and 'space' is a belief based thing. It's there. Fact. I used to work for the ESA, trust me we're not spending gazillions designing and building satellites to hide them in the shed!  |
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"Not sure that the existence of the solar system and 'space' is a belief based thing. It's there. Fact. I used to work for the ESA, trust me we're not spending gazillions designing and building satellites to hide them in the shed! "
Some people think it's a conspiracy - seriously - the internet is full of it |
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Well Star Trek can't be wrong? Let's face it they designed stuff on the series way before we even thought about it, like tablets and iPads etc!! So with that scientific analysis I would say I believe in space and maybe aliens because it's a big assed sky up their and we can't be the only ones to use it.
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This subject make my brain hurt..
The theory of relatively explains what we understand in nature.
An objects size and mass has a direct effect on space and bends space around it.
The greater the mass, the greater the effect on space.
An object of infinite mass and infinitely small size apparently can "break" space, a so called black hole.
This is where the theory breaks down as infinity does not exist.
The theory also only works on a 2d plane where as space is 3 dimensionsal with infinite degrees of freedom.
Space is also ever expanding, but into what???
Therefore, for space to expand into a void, it must consist of matter, one that we are yet to be able to detect or measure.
The best theory for space is that it is like a ring doughnut,ever growing with a infinite mass at its centre holding the whole thing together.
This also means that within this void, other universes can co exist, either as separate entities or harmonics of the this one.
It's all very complex and not worth worrying about. It's there and we aren't clever enough to understand it. |
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It's all very complex and not worth worrying about. It's there and we aren't clever enough to understand it."
The great physicist Richard Feynman once said we can't truly understand something until we can make it. There is more than a grain of truth in it.
With current technologies, we can only look at a maximum of 14 billion light years in distance. In other words, back to the Big Bang.
The truth is, we don't know, but can only make the best guess. It's like the Jonny Nash song. More questions than answers.
My guess is that the more we understand of the minute stuff like sub atomic particles and such like, the more we will understand the universe.
But, whilst space expands in all directions as there always has to be something else, infinity goes the other way too. There is always something smaller. |
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I have kind of heard of the concept of it so did a little bit of studying
But I am interested in quantum computing at the mo and basically I do not no a lot about it but I do know one of the basic principles is that in a normal computer there is a few pathways that can be checked by the electrons sent through the system so it will quickly check as many pathways as possible until it find the right one pretty quick but for somethings with a lot of pathways it would be impossible to do this
But with a quantum computer the electrons can go into superposition which means they can be in different places at the same time so they can check loads of path was simultaneously and find the right one
If we was a in a simulation then if they programed us in a way so that we could reason with ourself by when we are put into a certain situation we can run through lots of logical out comes simultaneously which can change due to the path we took to get there so the out come is a product of the pathway that we followed to get there so it can always change due to the route we take. So if we where programmed in a way that we can reason with our selfs like a consciousness and the reasoning comes via a series of pathway we have chosen before. Then that might be the difference between a game and reality we feel if you get what I am saying
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leads me back to string theory and what that says that there is a infinite amount of universes with a infinite amount of outcomes
Which would be bonkers to believe seeing how much big the universe is but if the universe was a simulation and then thats not hard to believe and as a quantum compute can compute infinite out comes simultaneously which is not hard to believe as this could happen in a very small space at the same time
The problem is we can not imagine being in one place in the same time or making a sandwhich in the kitchen while doing the gardening whilst being on holiday in skeg at the same finite point in time but in quantum physics this happens alot
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"I have kind of heard of the concept of it so did a little bit of studying
But I am interested in quantum computing at the mo and basically I do not no a lot about it but I do know one of the basic principles is that in a normal computer there is a few pathways that can be checked by the electrons sent through the system so it will quickly check as many pathways as possible until it find the right one pretty quick but for somethings with a lot of pathways it would be impossible to do this
But with a quantum computer the electrons can go into superposition which means they can be in different places at the same time so they can check loads of path was simultaneously and find the right one
If we was a in a simulation then if they programed us in a way so that we could reason with ourself by when we are put into a certain situation we can run through lots of logical out comes simultaneously which can change due to the path we took to get there so the out come is a product of the pathway that we followed to get there so it can always change due to the route we take. So if we where programmed in a way that we can reason with our selfs like a consciousness and the reasoning comes via a series of pathway we have chosen before. Then that might be the difference between a game and reality we feel if you get what I am saying
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I'm not picking holes. But the big question then, has to be who is 'they'? So we are back to intelligent design. And regarding who 'they' are. Where did they come from? And what's beyond them?
And I'm not looking for a row, but I love the theoretical physics questions. |
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It's all very complex and not worth worrying about. It's there and we aren't clever enough to understand it.
The great physicist Richard Feynman once said we can't truly understand something until we can make it. There is more than a grain of truth in it.
With current technologies, we can only look at a maximum of 14 billion light years in distance. In other words, back to the Big Bang.
The truth is, we don't know, but can only make the best guess. It's like the Jonny Nash song. More questions than answers.
My guess is that the more we understand of the minute stuff like sub atomic particles and such like, the more we will understand the universe.
But, whilst space expands in all directions as there always has to be something else, infinity goes the other way too. There is always something smaller."
Infinity goes the other way? Infinity goes the other way too and at the same time.
Consider this:
"Mummy,, I love you one hundred"
"Daddy, I love you one hundred"
"And we love you one more than any number you can think of!"
How much do Mummy & Daddy love the child?
100
101
+1
+
9999999999999999999999999999999
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That is infinity! |
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I am afraid there would have to be a they a god a more intelegent race with a greater technology
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I was quite intrigued by your theory until we got to this paragraph |
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Well tbh if there was to be a infinte amount of simulation there would have to be someone who is running them
Someone who design the technology
There would have to be someone call it god or a more superior race
There would have to be something
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"Well tbh if there was to be a infinte amount of simulation there would have to be someone who is running them
Someone who design the technology
There would have to be someone call it god or a more superior race
There would have to be something
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But are they in a simulation? |
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"Well tbh if there was to be a infinte amount of simulation there would have to be someone who is running them
Someone who design the technology
There would have to be someone call it god or a more superior race
There would have to be something
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And that makes the entire theory just silly.
Your concept of quantum computing is wrong, and why? it's like you have thrown out all logical observable fact just to reinvent god as a geek
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"Why is it wrong and why is it silly?
And I am a atheist I am just saying what ever you want to call it "
there is no space, there is no god and we don't exist.. We are all the creation of the over active dream of a single cell organism floating on the breeze of time...
We will be gone when it awakes. |
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"Why is it wrong and why is it silly?
And I am a atheist I am just saying what ever you want to call it there is no space, there is no god and we don't exist.. We are all the creation of the over active dream of a single cell organism floating on the breeze of time...
We will be gone when it awakes."
Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.. |
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"What is it, that confirms to you, that space exists, and is reachable by humans?
What?
LOL
Hmm.
I'm thinking this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTEFKFiXSx4
Dude, see you and raise...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gnEcJyjkYD4"
I like the way he says 'Moon,'plus the $110 billion dollar angle is intriguing.
I like them choral singers in the background too.
I have images in my head.... |
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It's all very complex and not worth worrying about. It's there and we aren't clever enough to understand it.
The great physicist Richard Feynman once said we can't truly understand something until we can make it. There is more than a grain of truth in it.
With current technologies, we can only look at a maximum of 14 billion light years in distance. In other words, back to the Big Bang.
The truth is, we don't know, but can only make the best guess. It's like the Jonny Nash song. More questions than answers.
My guess is that the more we understand of the minute stuff like sub atomic particles and such like, the more we will understand the universe.
But, whilst space expands in all directions as there always has to be something else, infinity goes the other way too. There is always something smaller.
Infinity goes the other way? Infinity goes the other way too and at the same time.
Consider this:
"Mummy,, I love you one hundred"
"Daddy, I love you one hundred"
"And we love you one more than any number you can think of!"
How much do Mummy & Daddy love the child?
100
101
+1
+
9999999999999999999999999999999
+
That is infinity!"
If we wrote the infinity of numbers down one to a page we would need an infinite number of pages. But if we wrote them two to a page how many pages would we need? Answers on a (or more) postcard(s) to the OP. |
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"That is infinity!
If we wrote the infinity of numbers down one to a page we would need an infinite number of pages. But if we wrote them two to a page how many pages would we need? Answers on a (or more) postcard(s) to the OP."
Quite simple you would still need an infinite number of pages, if you could ever stop then it wouldn't be infinite.
So probably best not to start really.  |
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"That is infinity!
If we wrote the infinity of numbers down one to a page we would need an infinite number of pages. But if we wrote them two to a page how many pages would we need? Answers on a (or more) postcard(s) to the OP.
Quite simple you would still need an infinite number of pages, if you could ever stop then it wouldn't be infinite.
So probably best not to start really. "
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Space is so easily reachable by humans.
1. Open wardrobe door.
2. Look at squashed clothes and shoes
3. Throw the fuckers out.
Result ! More SPACEY space space to fill up again.
I Luv Space. |
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"That is infinity!
If we wrote the infinity of numbers down one to a page we would need an infinite number of pages. But if we wrote them two to a page how many pages would we need? Answers on a (or more) postcard(s) to the OP.
Quite simple you would still need an infinite number of pages, if you could ever stop then it wouldn't be infinite.
So probably best not to start really.
Plus you would need an infinite amount of time and according to most Astro physicists our universe is finite and will eventually die, so definitely not worth starting "
Our current understanding is that the universe is never ending, so therefore infinite.
However, you're right to a certain extent that eventually the universe will die a heat death. In other words the stars effectively run out of fuel. There are though many other theories as to what the future holds.
At least we probably won't be here to see it! |
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Unless the universe stops expanding and contracting
Then it would start to fuse elements back together
Or squash everything back down and to start another big bang |
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So probably best not to start really.
Plus you would need an infinite amount of time and according to most Astro physicists our universe is finite and will eventually die,
so definitely not worth starting "
What an unambitious bunch of quitters.
Are you never up for a challenge???
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Space is so easily reachable by humans.
1. Open wardrobe door.
2. Look at squashed clothes and shoes
3. Throw the fuckers out.
Result ! More SPACEY space space to fill up again.
I Luv Space. "
But space is finite just the same.
You haven't actually made any space in the wardrobe.
All you've done is move some space from outside the wardrobe to inside the wardrobe.  |
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"What is it, that confirms to you, that space exists, and is reachable by humans?"
Yes. Now that I've cleared out my wardrobe I can confirm there's lots of space. And I can easily reach it with just one hand.
There.
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Then it would start to fuse elements back together
Or squash everything back down and to start another big bang "
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"Unless the universe stops expanding and contracting
Then it would start to fuse elements back together
Or squash everything back down and to start another big bang
So at the moment of the final singularity where is there room for infinity?"
How many zeros in zero?
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Then it would start to fuse elements back together
Or squash everything back down and to start another big bang
So at the moment of the final singularity where is there room for infinity?"
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Then it would start to fuse elements back together
Or squash everything back down and to start another big bang
So at the moment of the final singularity where is there room for infinity?
How many zeros in zero?
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Then it would start to fuse elements back together
Or squash everything back down and to start another big bang
So at the moment of the final singularity where is there room for infinity?
How many zeros in zero?
1"
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"Unless the universe stops expanding and contracting
Then it would start to fuse elements back together
Or squash everything back down and to start another big bang
So at the moment of the final singularity where is there room for infinity?"
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