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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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Am I sick ?
I hate people been killed !
But I couldn't help feeling a slight moment of joy when I read a matador had just been killed in a bull fight ! |
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By *iewMan
over a year ago
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"Am I sick ?
I hate people been killed !
But I couldn't help feeling a slight moment of joy when I read a matador had just been killed in a bull fight !"
I think joy may be pushing it, I am sadly indifferent to it as those are the risks and the suffering to the bull is horrid
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Matadors spend years trying to perfect their skills, unfortunately goring resulting in permanent injury or death is something they accept as a risk when participating in such events.
But never good to gloat over someone else's misfortunes or death regardless of whether people agree with the concept of bull fighting or not. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"I think it serves him right.
No sympathy.
My sympathy is all for the poor bulls.
My god! I think i actually agree with you.
Well said.
Serves him right.
X"
I assume you haven't in the past then lol , still that's what makes the world go round 
Perhaps Joy was strong but It did make me smile !
Ironically now , maybe they may think of banning this Vile Spectacle Now !
It certainly isn't Sport ! |
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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago
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"Matadors spend years trying to perfect their skills, unfortunately goring resulting in permanent injury or death is something they accept as a risk when participating in such events.
But never good to gloat over someone else's misfortunes or death regardless of whether people agree with the concept of bull fighting or not."
I'm not gloating. I merely have no sympathy.
Not caring a jot is not the same as deriving pleasure. |
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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago
Somewhere in North Norfolk |
"If you're going to fight large, dangerous animals, you're going to have to accept that some days the large, dangerous animals win."
I'd like them to win more often. Say, 100% of the time would be good. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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I'd liked to see it banned , but if they really think it's sport they could use a robot Bull. !
I'm sure that would be possible !
But I bet they won't just like fox Hunters don't want to drag hunt ! They like killing ! |
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By *eerobCouple
over a year ago
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No sympathy for the matador at all, in fact I think I'm glad that a bull has won for a change. I do have sympathy for all the animals treated this way, they have no choice, and even by killing the matador, he still loses. I've changed my mind... I am glad the matador died.... He's a bully and has had his come upance. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Am I sick ?
I hate people been killed !
But I couldn't help feeling a slight moment of joy when I read a matador had just been killed in a bull fight !"
Sad but karma |
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"What if a chicken farmer fell into his own plucking machine?
Does he torture his chickens before he kills them?"
Well ....... they hang them upside down on a conveyor.... electrocute them by passing them through a stunner, slit their throats and then shove em in a spinner that plucks off the feathers...
Hope the stunner works.....  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Am I sick ?
I hate people been killed !
But I couldn't help feeling a slight moment of joy when I read a matador had just been killed in a bull fight !"
Well thats me done for |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"What if a chicken farmer fell into his own plucking machine?
Does he torture his chickens before he kills them?
Well ....... they hang them upside down on a conveyor.... electrocute them by passing them through a stunner, slit their throats and then shove em in a spinner that plucks off the feathers...
Hope the stunner works..... "
Which is done in the name of food. Bull fighting is done in the name of sport. And that's the difference. |
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By *ugby 123Couple
over a year ago
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"What if a chicken farmer fell into his own plucking machine?
Does he torture his chickens before he kills them?
Well ....... they hang them upside down on a conveyor.... electrocute them by passing them through a stunner, slit their throats and then shove em in a spinner that plucks off the feathers...
Hope the stunner works..... "
Don't sound too good does it, do they have people willing the farmer on in the stands too? |
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"What if a chicken farmer fell into his own plucking machine?
Does he torture his chickens before he kills them?
Well ....... they hang them upside down on a conveyor.... electrocute them by passing them through a stunner, slit their throats and then shove em in a spinner that plucks off the feathers...
Hope the stunner works.....
Don't sound too good does it, do they have people willing the farmer on in the stands too?"
Only people named Matthews , Sainsbury, Tesco and Aldi. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I don't agree with bull fighting & abuse of animals at all. I will however say that I do feel sorry for any family he left behind, especially if he had young children. I know I wouldn't like to hear people saying "good riddance" about a close family member during my time of grief.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"What if a chicken farmer fell into his own plucking machine?
Does he torture his chickens before he kills them?
Well ....... they hang them upside down on a conveyor.... electrocute them by passing them through a stunner, slit their throats and then shove em in a spinner that plucks off the feathers...
Hope the stunner works.....
Don't sound too good does it, do they have people willing the farmer on in the stands too?
Only people named Matthews , Sainsbury, Tesco and Aldi."
So No then |
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"I don't agree with bull fighting & abuse of animals at all. I will however say that I do feel sorry for any family he left behind, especially if he had young children. I know I wouldn't like to hear people saying "good riddance" about a close family member during my time of grief.
mr j"
Yep! |
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By *-ChelmoMan
over a year ago
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Any blood sport comes with the risk of death so the Matador dying is a natural part of what could happen. Just a shame that bull fighting is still a thing, terrible practice and completely from another era. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I don't agree with bull fighting & abuse of animals at all. I will however say that I do feel sorry for any family he left behind, especially if he had young children. I know I wouldn't like to hear people saying "good riddance" about a close family member during my time of grief.
mr j"
No sympathy at all im afraid. His family will have done very well out of his delight in killing animals for fun. |
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"Oh and me... Cos I got a small Aldi Chicken for dinner .......so reasonably priced
Aldi !!!!? I had you down as a Waitrose woman."
I was like this morning.... Take the bypass and go to Waitrose.. or shufty into the local Aldi and just get a cheap chuck..... I do like to Asda it up now and then. Sainsbury's is boring...so emergency only. Love Farm Foods...it's scustin' |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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It's a British thing to root for the underdog ! The matador has a choice and wealth and fame is his reward. . Sometimes it goes the other way and a nasty death results .
No sympathy here |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"It's never nice to gloat over an untimely death"
i'm happy to gloat in the name of all animals over the death of a person engaging in blood sports
sorry but thats my _iews and i sleep easy with them |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I certainly wouldn't rejoice over the guys death but hey "you play with fire...". I expect they killed the bull anyway, as a 'dangerous' animal.
Bull fighting is bad enough but did you ever see what goes on in sone rodeos in America? Check out a website called 'Shark' (Showing Animals Respect And Kindness).
I wouldn't shed a tear over some of those cowboys getting a bit of Karma, either.  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I'd like to see a fairer bullfight, I think maybe lock the gate, don't have anybody else rescue you when things go wrong and let's see a proper mono on mono fight to the death! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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The matador has a choice to step into the bull ring and is fully aware of the risks, the bulls have no choice and have no idea what they are walking into. The bull should be retired into a field with 17 virgin cows for winning his fight fair and square but I fear it will just be used in another fight and killed mercilessly like all the others. |
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"Is it okay to kill wasps ?
I think your point is a tad weak and nothing like stabbing a bull while it dies a slow death.
How was the chicken?"
Just popped it in ....... the oven.... that is.
Is it okay to kill wasps Slowwwwwwwly ? |
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"The matador has a choice to step into the bull ring and is fully aware of the risks, the bulls have no choice and have no idea what they are walking into. The bull should be retired into a field with 17 virgin cows for winning his fight fair and square but I fear it will just be used in another fight and killed mercilessly like all the others. "
Do the Cows get any say in this ? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I struggle to understand it as it's very alien to the culture I grew up in, but Matadors do seem to have a very respectful relationship with a bull, and it's a very honour related sport, by all accounts to those close to the sport.
And any avoidable loss is a shame, no matter if it's human or animal. I'd be intrigued to know how many people loathe the idea of a bull dying for pleasure, in comparison to eating any meat they wish after seeing livestock 'care' conditions etc. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I suppose if you play with fire you are going to get hurt
No sympathy here, the bull won this time. I wonder what happened to the bull.
If they put it down its a bit unfair when you think about it
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"It's never nice to gloat over an untimely death"
the bull was forced into the situation.. I have no sympathy at all for anyone who tortures animals to death. He caused the situation and got what he deserved. One less shit in the world.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"The matador has a choice to step into the bull ring and is fully aware of the risks, the bulls have no choice and have no idea what they are walking into. The bull should be retired into a field with 17 virgin cows for winning his fight fair and square but I fear it will just be used in another fight and killed mercilessly like all the others.
Do the Cows get any say in this ?"
No but I'm sure given the choice of seeing their days out in a field with a randy champion bull or being shipped off to the abattoir they'd choose the field every time.  |
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"The matador has a choice to step into the bull ring and is fully aware of the risks, the bulls have no choice and have no idea what they are walking into. The bull should be retired into a field with 17 virgin cows for winning his fight fair and square but I fear it will just be used in another fight and killed mercilessly like all the others.
Do the Cows get any say in this ?
No but I'm sure given the choice of seeing their days out in a field with a randy champion bull or being shipped off to the abattoir they'd choose the field every time. "
Where's the choice ?
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By *ugby 123Couple
over a year ago
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"Is it okay to kill wasps ?
I think your point is a tad weak and nothing like stabbing a bull while it dies a slow death.
How was the chicken?
Just popped it in ....... the oven.... that is.
Is it okay to kill wasps Slowwwwwwwly ?"
If they invade my space when not invited and won't leave through the window I have opened for them then they are fair game...but as fast as I can before they sting me |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"The matador has a choice to step into the bull ring and is fully aware of the risks, the bulls have no choice and have no idea what they are walking into. The bull should be retired into a field with 17 virgin cows for winning his fight fair and square but I fear it will just be used in another fight and killed mercilessly like all the others.
Do the Cows get any say in this ?
No but I'm sure given the choice of seeing their days out in a field with a randy champion bull or being shipped off to the abattoir they'd choose the field every time.
Where's the choice ?
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As above  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I'd like to see a fairer bullfight, I think maybe lock the gate, don't have anybody else rescue you when things go wrong and let's see a proper mono on mono fight to the death!"
This..
if you wanna see a proper bull fight, watch the 1950s movie Quo Vadis..no weapons..muscles against horns. Bull lost there but you get the point..
the idea of swords, i imagine, is to level it somewhat and give the matador 'horns'...but unless its naked man against naked bull..and no drugs..and unless you are Mike Tyson or a Klitchko youre fucked. End of. Ban it. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I struggle to understand it as it's very alien to the culture I grew up in, but Matadors do seem to have a very respectful relationship with a bull, and it's a very honour related sport, by all accounts to those close to the sport.
And any avoidable loss is a shame, no matter if it's human or animal. I'd be intrigued to know how many people loathe the idea of a bull dying for pleasure, in comparison to eating any meat they wish after seeing livestock 'care' conditions etc."
I don't eat animals, wear animals or use anything tested on animal so I have no hypocritical opinions on this subject
Blood sports are wrong
I'm sure dog fighters respect the dogs they fight too  |
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By *MaleMan
over a year ago
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I'd not gloat or be chuffed about the death of anyone or anything.
However humans cannot really complain when something they're trying to kill, turns around and kills them first. Sometimes the natural world bites back. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I struggle to understand it as it's very alien to the culture I grew up in, but Matadors do seem to have a very respectful relationship with a bull, and it's a very honour related sport, by all accounts to those close to the sport.
And any avoidable loss is a shame, no matter if it's human or animal. I'd be intrigued to know how many people loathe the idea of a bull dying for pleasure, in comparison to eating any meat they wish after seeing livestock 'care' conditions etc.
I don't eat animals, wear animals or use anything tested on animal so I have no hypocritical opinions on this subject
Blood sports are wrong
I'm sure dog fighters respect the dogs they fight too "
What about drugs? They're tested on animals. Different conversation altogether though.
Bull fighting isn't for me but is part of Spanish culture so it isn't for anyone here to judge them. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I struggle to understand it as it's very alien to the culture I grew up in, but Matadors do seem to have a very respectful relationship with a bull, and it's a very honour related sport, by all accounts to those close to the sport.
And any avoidable loss is a shame, no matter if it's human or animal. I'd be intrigued to know how many people loathe the idea of a bull dying for pleasure, in comparison to eating any meat they wish after seeing livestock 'care' conditions etc.
I don't eat animals, wear animals or use anything tested on animal so I have no hypocritical opinions on this subject
Blood sports are wrong
I'm sure dog fighters respect the dogs they fight too
What about drugs? They're tested on animals. Different conversation altogether though.
Bull fighting isn't for me but is part of Spanish culture so it isn't for anyone here to judge them."
Yes that includes medication
I have epilepsy but I don't take treatment for it
But as you say that's another topic |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Bull fighting isn't for me but is part of Spanish culture so it isn't for anyone here to judge them."
100% disagree with that
Chinese had been harvesting bear bile for years, have you seen the conditions they live in?
Tigers have been hunted for years to be used in medicine, almost to the point of extinction
I could go in but you get my point
Both of the above are Chinese tradition both crimes against nature in my humble opinion
Being a tradition is not a reason to allow these crimes to continue its upto the whole world to stand together to help those who can't help themselves
Again my opinion
And I for one will judge anybody who needlessly harms or kills an animal in the name of entertainment |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"I certainly wouldn't rejoice over the guys death but hey "you play with fire...". I expect they killed the bull anyway, as a 'dangerous' animal.
Bull fighting is bad enough but did you ever see what goes on in sone rodeos in America? Check out a website called 'Shark' (Showing Animals Respect And Kindness).
I wouldn't shed a tear over some of those cowboys getting a bit of Karma, either. "
I haven't seen that web site ( shark ) but il have a look , cheers . |
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Bull fighting isn't for me but is part of Spanish culture so it isn't for anyone here to judge them.
100% disagree with that
Chinese had been harvesting bear bile for years, have you seen the conditions they live in?
Tigers have been hunted for years to be used in medicine, almost to the point of extinction
I could go in but you get my point
Both of the above are Chinese tradition both crimes against nature in my humble opinion
Being a tradition is not a reason to allow these crimes to continue its upto the whole world to stand together to help those who can't help themselves
Again my opinion
And I for one will judge anybody who needlessly harms or kills an animal in the name of entertainment "
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By *imiUKMan
over a year ago
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"I hope all the ppl that say its cruel etc feel the same about halal meat  "
What about Kosher meat?
It's a fact that the majority of Halal meat can be pre-stun (making it the same as regular slaighter with an added prayer), but Kosher slaughter cannot? |
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"No sympathy here
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If has many matadors died as do bulls then the rules would change to make sure that did,nt happen so the bull can,t win I think its a disgusting sport anyone partakeing in such a sport who gets Injured or killed I have no feelings for whatsoever.. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"At least he had a choice to be in the ring the poor bulls don't.....shit happens."
its not a sport
Obviously I am saddened by his death , though saddened even more that he chose the so called sport in the first place |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"At least he had a choice to be in the ring the poor bulls don't.....shit happens. its not a sport
Obviously I am saddened by his death , though saddened even more that he chose the so called sport in the first place "
That's how I feel
I'm not glad he's dead
It is sad, sad that he was in that ring putting himself in that position
But at the end of the day it was his chosen 'sport', he knew the risks and he took them
So although I'm not glad he loss of his life, or the grief of the family he has left behind, he certainly does not get my sympathy |
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"If you're going to fight large, dangerous animals, you're going to have to accept that some days the large, dangerous animals win."
I wish the Animals would win more often.. nobody cheers when the bull strikes the bull has to suffer and die before that happens its all one way traffic it should be banned, its outdated and beyond its time like every blood sport is traditional or not.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Bull fighting isn't for me but is part of Spanish culture so it isn't for anyone here to judge them.
I can, and do "
I will happily judge them and also condemn them. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Bull fighting isn't for me but is part of Spanish culture so it isn't for anyone here to judge them."
I wonder if there's a Spanish swingers site where they are currently judging English traditions such as chasing wheels of cheese down a hill 
I wasn't actually aware the bull was killed at the end of a bullfight.
https://youtu.be/X0uIVftwO10
Watch that, not fucking cool
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"The matador has a choice to step into the bull ring and is fully aware of the risks, the bulls have no choice and have no idea what they are walking into. The bull should be retired into a field with 17 virgin cows for winning his fight fair and square but I fear it will just be used in another fight and killed mercilessly like all the others.
Do the Cows get any say in this ?
No but I'm sure given the choice of seeing their days out in a field with a randy champion bull or being shipped off to the abattoir they'd choose the field every time.
Where's the choice ?
As above "
I'm not rude enough to roll my eyes. So you'll have to roll your own eyes at yourself.
That's not a choice. |
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"Am I sick ?
I hate people been killed !
But I couldn't help feeling a slight moment of joy when I read a matador had just been killed in a bull fight !"
It was a good way for him to die.that fucker has probably killed loads of bulls |
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Bull fighting isn't for me but is part of Spanish culture so it isn't for anyone here to judge them.
100% disagree with that
Chinese had been harvesting bear bile for years, have you seen the conditions they live in?
Tigers have been hunted for years to be used in medicine, almost to the point of extinction
I could go in but you get my point
Both of the above are Chinese tradition both crimes against nature in my humble opinion
Being a tradition is not a reason to allow these crimes to continue its upto the whole world to stand together to help those who can't help themselves
Again my opinion
And I for one will judge anybody who needlessly harms or kills an animal in the name of entertainment "
Absolutely. Sometimes, judging is the humane thing to do. Most here would judge FGM even though ita part of some "cultures "
I save my non-judgement for those who don't hurt anyone or anything else for their fun/pleasure. |
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By *ancadamMan
over a year ago
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"I suppose if you play with fire you are going to get hurt
No sympathy here, the bull won this time. I wonder what happened to the bull.
If they put it down its a bit unfair when you think about it
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i understand both the bull was killed and his mother in order to discontinue the line.human perversion at its most vile  |
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"Am I sick ?
I hate people been killed !
But I couldn't help feeling a slight moment of joy when I read a matador had just been killed in a bull fight !"
Nice to hear the bull winning for a change. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"The matador has a choice to step into the bull ring and is fully aware of the risks, the bulls have no choice and have no idea what they are walking into. The bull should be retired into a field with 17 virgin cows for winning his fight fair and square but I fear it will just be used in another fight and killed mercilessly like all the others.
Do the Cows get any say in this ?
No but I'm sure given the choice of seeing their days out in a field with a randy champion bull or being shipped off to the abattoir they'd choose the field every time.
Where's the choice ?
As above
I'm not rude enough to roll my eyes. So you'll have to roll your own eyes at yourself.
That's not a choice. "
I've no idea what you are getting at
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