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The term half caste

By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

I just saw an account on here which described the male as this term. I know I have a way of upsetting people on here by highlighting certain things but I kindly explained that this term was derogatory to use as in the days of slavery, white slave masters would unfasten the shackles (casts) which fastened the legs together and do their thing by force and sometimes produce mixed race babies. Not only is this term pre 90's if you were fully PC the term I was last aware of was dual heritage.

I wonder why some folk use such terms to fit in but I suppose that this thread is really to see how many folk still use this term and with this knowledge, how many will continue to use the term Half-caste?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

And they say fab forums aren't fun anymore....

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

It's what we used to say , I only in the last few years knew it had now changed to mixed race .

I must come over as racist , or whatever , but some people don't know the new p.c. Lingo etc ...

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I have often heard of my daughters referred to half caste i can say i dont have a problem with it, however i tend to used mix race is this considered offensive ?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Always knew it was mixed race. Never thought it derogatory

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"And they say fab forums aren't fun anymore...."

Is it that bad a question. I will pipe right down if the things I say are too abrasive but I can't see why there is a discussion section if we can't discuss things other than sex - after all the world we live in is forever evolving

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I'm mixed race and have no issue over it.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"And they say fab forums aren't fun anymore...."

C'mon Clem, Saturday nights were made for such frivolity.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"It's what we used to say , I only in the last few years knew it had now changed to mixed race .

I must come over as racist , or whatever , but some people don't know the new p.c. Lingo etc ... "

Not at all do you seem racist. I didn't know myself until maybe 10 yrs ago hence the question.

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By *ilk_TreMan over a year ago

Wherever the party is!

"I just saw an account on here which described the male as this term. I know I have a way of upsetting people on here by highlighting certain things but I kindly explained that this term was derogatory to use as in the days of slavery, white slave masters would unfasten the shackles (casts) which fastened the legs together and do their thing by force and sometimes produce mixed race babies. Not only is this term pre 90's if you were fully PC the term I was last aware of was dual heritage.

This post is incorrect.

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By *erdita Von TeaseWoman over a year ago

nottingham

I always thought it was derived from the Latin term castus meaning pure, oh well learn something new everyday

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"And they say fab forums aren't fun anymore....

Post it in politics...

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

So is caste using being incorrectly as per the English Oxford dictionary it is defined as the following

caste

k??st/Submit

noun

each of the hereditary classes of Hindu society, distinguished by relative degrees of ritual purity or pollution and of social status.

"members of the lower castes"

synonyms: class, social class, order, social order, social division, grade, grading, group, grouping, station, stratum, echelon, rank, level, degree, set; More

the system of dividing society into castes.

"caste has survived among Goa's Christians"

any class or group of people who inherit exclusive privileges or are perceived as socially distinct.

"those educated in private schools belong to a privileged caste"

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"I have often heard of my daughters referred to half caste i can say i dont have a problem with it, however i tend to used mix race is this considered offensive ?"

Not that I'm aware but like my op says I think the latest PC term is dual heritage.

I struggle to keep up myself but I know enough not to say half cast anymore

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By *o-jCouple over a year ago

Outskirts of Notts

"And they say fab forums aren't fun anymore....

Your right . and I for one should only post on fun and entertaining posts .......

Shit failed again .

And to be honest I think that it's not abrasive just not as interesting as the same post that came up yesterday .

Jo x

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"So is caste using being incorrectly as per the English Oxford dictionary it is defined as the following

caste

k??st/Submit

noun

each of the hereditary classes of Hindu society, distinguished by relative degrees of ritual purity or pollution and of social status.

"members of the lower castes"

synonyms: class, social class, order, social order, social division, grade, grading, group, grouping, station, stratum, echelon, rank, level, degree, set; More

the system of dividing society into castes.

"caste has survived among Goa's Christians"

any class or group of people who inherit exclusive privileges or are perceived as socially distinct.

"those educated in private schools belong to a privileged caste""

Yeah but he thinks it's something else.....so there for it is. Obviously.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Always knew it was mixed race. Never thought it derogatory "

What half caste? I just gave the reason why it is considered derogatory but I only learnt that through getting a few bollockings from so pro black adults when I was growing up

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By *uzy444Woman over a year ago

in the suffolk countryside

we all have genes and we are made from the love of thousands..we are stardust having a human experience..my family is multicultural..but we are all family...no separatism here...and no labels either..quite honestly i dont notice peoples form that much i do notice however what vibe they give off..thats far more important for me x

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

This post is incorrect."

Enlightenment me. Please

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I always thought it was derived from the Latin term castus meaning pure, oh well learn something new everyday "

You beat me to Wikipedia

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"we all have genes and we are made from the love of thousands..we are stardust having a human experience..my family is multicultural..but we are all family...no separatism here...and no labels either..quite honestly i dont notice peoples form that much i do notice however what vibe they give off..thats far more important for me x"

I agree, my daughter are a 1/4 of welsh, english, and 1/2 Indian i often get asked what race are they - i tend to go with confused lol

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By *ugby 123Couple over a year ago
Forum Mod

O o O oo

"And they say fab forums aren't fun anymore....

Post it in politics..."

It can stay here

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By *uzy444Woman over a year ago

in the suffolk countryside

I agree, my daughter are a 1/4 of welsh, english, and 1/2 Indian i often get asked what race are they - i tend to go with confused lol

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i say 'loved' xx

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"So is caste using being incorrectly as per the English Oxford dictionary it is defined as the following

caste

k??st/Submit

noun

each of the hereditary classes of Hindu society, distinguished by relative degrees of ritual purity or pollution and of social status.

"members of the lower castes"

synonyms: class, social class, order, social order, social division, grade, grading, group, grouping, station, stratum, echelon, rank, level, degree, set; More

the system of dividing society into castes.

"caste has survived among Goa's Christians"

any class or group of people who inherit exclusive privileges or are perceived as socially distinct.

"those educated in private schools belong to a privileged caste"

Yeah but he thinks it's something else.....so there for it is. Obviously. "

Again discuss it and enlighten me. I have no problem being proven wrong,I use new found knowledge to make myself better informed - as we all should.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I agree, my daughter are a 1/4 of welsh, english, and 1/2 Indian i often get asked what race are they - i tend to go with confused lol

i say 'loved' xx"

They are very much loved

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By *uzy444Woman over a year ago

in the suffolk countryside

I agree, my daughter are a 1/4 of welsh, english, and 1/2 Indian i often get asked what race are they - i tend to go with confused lol

i say 'loved' xx

They are very much loved

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thats all that matters as a label to me..i dont need to use any others x

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"So is caste using being incorrectly as per the English Oxford dictionary it is defined as the following

caste

k??st/Submit

noun

each of the hereditary classes of Hindu society, distinguished by relative degrees of ritual purity or pollution and of social status.

"members of the lower castes"

synonyms: class, social class, order, social order, social division, grade, grading, group, grouping, station, stratum, echelon, rank, level, degree, set; More

the system of dividing society into castes.

"caste has survived among Goa's Christians"

any class or group of people who inherit exclusive privileges or are perceived as socially distinct.

"those educated in private schools belong to a privileged caste"

Yeah but he thinks it's something else.....so there for it is. Obviously.

Again discuss it and enlighten me. I have no problem being proven wrong,I use new found knowledge to make myself better informed - as we all should. "

Its from the Latin term castus as already posted above.

Me thinks you've been fed a lie previously.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"So is caste using being incorrectly as per the English Oxford dictionary it is defined as the following

caste

k??st/Submit

noun

each of the hereditary classes of Hindu society, distinguished by relative degrees of ritual purity or pollution and of social status.

"members of the lower castes"

synonyms: class, social class, order, social order, social division, grade, grading, group, grouping, station, stratum, echelon, rank, level, degree, set; More

the system of dividing society into castes.

"caste has survived among Goa's Christians"

any class or group of people who inherit exclusive privileges or are perceived as socially distinct.

"those educated in private schools belong to a privileged caste"

Yeah but he thinks it's something else.....so there for it is. Obviously.

Again discuss it and enlighten me. I have no problem being proven wrong,I use new found knowledge to make myself better informed - as we all should.

Its from the Latin term castus as already posted above.

Me thinks you've been fed a lie previously."

i might have been damn Google lol

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By *ilk_TreMan over a year ago

Wherever the party is!

This post is incorrect.

Enlightenment me. Please "

Fortunately we live in the midst of a technological revolution where information is in abundance and obtained freely. With just a few clicks you can update your ten year old information...

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By *icketysplitsWoman over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

It's not from the shackles it is from the caste (as stated above).

It was used in a derogatory way and to ostracise groups of people - being not one thing nor the other - but a general acceptance that 'black' is lower than 'white' so anyone tinged with 'black' must also be lower, but maybe a little higher than 'black'.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

This post is incorrect.

Enlightenment me. Please

Fortunately we live in the midst of a technological revolution where information is in abundance and obtained freely. With just a few clicks you can update your ten year old information...

Appreciated (as long as it ain't wiki)

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Can you provide any evidence that shackles were one referred to as casts? Bearing In mind the saying "cast of the shackles"

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By *utterflyandArtificeCouple over a year ago

Trowbridge

Perfect explanation x

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

Can you provide any evidence that shackles were one referred to as casts? Bearing In mind the saying "cast of the shackles""

I did explain that I only updated the term myself consequent of a few bollockings of some pro black folk and this (obviously incorrect) was the explanation given. More fool me for believing without researching but my fab family have educated me through simple discussion.

If it makes anyone feel better 'i stand corrected' there.

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By *ee VianteWoman over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk

"I kindly explained that this term was derogatory to use as in the days of slavery, white slave masters would unfasten the shackles (casts) which fastened the legs together and do their thing by force and sometimes produce mixed race babies."

Do you have a reputable source to substantite this claim?

After all, when trying to educate people, it is good to be certain of one's facts.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I thought it was of reference to the caste system of India where a child was born of the (forbidden) Union of two people of differing levels...

I recognise that it's seen as derogatory or has taken on that meaning though

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By *ee VianteWoman over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk

"And they say fab forums aren't fun anymore....

Post it in politics..."

Matters of race and terminology are political now?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Can you provide any evidence that shackles were one referred to as casts? Bearing In mind the saying "cast of the shackles"

If it makes anyone feel better 'i stand corrected' there. "

You've been made a fool of.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

Bloody hell I apologised about 3x now for not being factually correct and people still going on with the same questions

I did not research what I was told initially and I am sorry OK. Lord have mercy (jokes)

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

Can you provide any evidence that shackles were one referred to as casts? Bearing In mind the saying "cast of the shackles"

If it makes anyone feel better 'i stand corrected' there.

You've been made a fool of."

No mate I learnt something - simple

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"And they say fab forums aren't fun anymore....

Post it in politics...

Matters of race and terminology are political now?

Clearly not. They are obviously "fun" seeing as that is the mission statement of the forum.

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By *icketysplitsWoman over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Bloody hell I apologised about 3x now for not being factually correct and people still going on with the same questions

I did not research what I was told initially and I am sorry OK. Lord have mercy (jokes)"

You've learnt a valuable lesson today. The people on fab are quick on Google and Wikipedia

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

And without biting Clem it doesn't change the fact the term is now deemed derogatory - now what?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I thought it was of reference to the caste system of India where a child was born of the (forbidden) Union of two people of differing levels...

I recognise that it's seen as derogatory or has taken on that meaning though"

When I was a kid half caste was one black parent,one white. The last person who used the term was a mixed race woman.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"And without biting Clem it doesn't change the fact the term is now deemed derogatory - now what?"

Embrace it.

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By *ee VianteWoman over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk

"And without biting Clem it doesn't change the fact the term is now deemed derogatory - now what?"

Indeed, it's a derogatory term but as I said, if you're going to "educate" people with facts, check them first. This is a particularly a good idea if you decide to lecture an entire forum on the subject from your moral high ground.

Isn't it funny how some of those you're educating turned out to know more than you? Apparently your assumption that many of us are clueless wasn't entirely on the mark.

How many people have you seen/heard use the term recently? Many? If not, why assume it was anything more than a one off and something people need your education on?

PS Please don't be narky about people educating you and showing you to be wrong. That's what you were trying to do to others.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"And without biting Clem it doesn't change the fact the term is now deemed derogatory - now what?

Embrace it."

I'm supping it up brer.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"And without biting Clem it doesn't change the fact the term is now deemed derogatory - now what?

Embrace it.

I'm supping it up brer. "

I've no idea what that means.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"It's not from the shackles it is from the caste (as stated above).

Being deemed half caste myself by certain people when growing up I always felt this description was negative. A way of labelling and controlling people. Much like race. I had thought it derived from the Indian caste system though originally.

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By *hats_in_a_usernameMan over a year ago

Southampton

Excuse me

standing on one leg

I’m half-caste.

Explain yuself

wha yu mean

when yu say half-caste

yu mean when Picasso

mix red an green

is a half-caste canvas?

explain yuself

wha yu mean

when yu say half-caste

yu mean when light an shadow

mix in de sky

is a half-caste weather?

well in dat case

england weather

nearly always half-caste

in fact some o dem cloud

half-caste till dem overcast

so spiteful dem don’t want de sun pass

ah rass?

explain yuself

wha yu mean

when yu say half-caste

yu mean tchaikovsky

sit down at dah piano

an mix a black key

wid a white key

is a half-caste symphony?

Explain yuself

wha yu mean

Ah listening to yu wid de keen

half of mih ear

Ah looking at yu wid de keen

half of mih eye

an when I’m introduced to yu

I’m sure you’ll understand

why I offer yu half-a-hand

an when I sleep at night

I close half-a-eye

consequently when I dream

I dream half-a-dream

an when moon begin to glow

I half-caste human being

cast half-a-shadow

but yu must come back tomorrow

wid de whole of yu eye

an de whole of yu ear

an de whole of yu mind.

an I will tell yu

de other half

of my story.

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By *icketysplitsWoman over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

"It's not from the shackles it is from the caste (as stated above).

Me too. I was sometimes called by the Spanish term Mulatto by the very polite.

Although my mix is a little murkier than black/white.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Read the poem by john agard called half caste. Its a brilliant piece of writing and will make you realise why it should not be used.

Doll x

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Excuse me

standing on one leg

I’m half-caste.

Explain yuself

wha yu mean

when yu say half-caste

yu mean when Picasso

mix red an green

is a half-caste canvas?

explain yuself

wha yu mean

when yu say half-caste

yu mean when light an shadow

mix in de sky

is a half-caste weather?

well in dat case

england weather

nearly always half-caste

in fact some o dem cloud

half-caste till dem overcast

so spiteful dem don’t want de sun pass

ah rass?

explain yuself

wha yu mean

when yu say half-caste

yu mean tchaikovsky

sit down at dah piano

an mix a black key

wid a white key

is a half-caste symphony?

Explain yuself

wha yu mean

Ah listening to yu wid de keen

half of mih ear

Ah looking at yu wid de keen

half of mih eye

an when I’m introduced to yu

I’m sure you’ll understand

why I offer yu half-a-hand

an when I sleep at night

I close half-a-eye

consequently when I dream

I dream half-a-dream

an when moon begin to glow

I half-caste human being

cast half-a-shadow

but yu must come back tomorrow

wid de whole of yu eye

an de whole of yu ear

an de whole of yu mind.

an I will tell yu

de other half

of my story."

Someone beat me to it. Thank you..

Doll x

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Read the poem by john agard called half caste. Its a brilliant piece of writing and will make you realise why it should not be used.

Doll x "

Preach

remember doing that poem at school, prefer the term mixed raced

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Read the poem by john agard called half caste. Its a brilliant piece of writing and will make you realise why it should not be used.

Doll x

Preach

remember doing that poem at school, prefer the term mixed raced "

I prefer "person".

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"It's not from the shackles it is from the caste (as stated above).

Me too. I was sometimes called by the Spanish term Mulatto by the very polite.

Although my mix is a little murkier than black/white.

Mine too. When I was younger such terms angered me now I just realise some people will always try to subjugate others. With terms or force. I'm proud of my background. As anyone should be

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"It's not from the shackles it is from the caste (as stated above).

Me too. I was sometimes called by the Spanish term Mulatto by the very polite.

Although my mix is a little murkier than black/white.

Mine too. When I was younger such terms angered me now I just realise some people will always try to subjugate others. With terms or force. I'm proud of my background. As anyone should be

Too true Hun be proud of your background

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By *arnayguyMan over a year ago

Durham Tees

" Too true Hun be proud of your background

The Huns were Eastern Europe nomads. Stop confusing us

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

The problem is, that there is no manual to inform us how to describe people of different body types without offending anyone.

No one knows what is offensive or not or what is PC, and we'll go on blundering about causing b offence in one way or another

I just refer to someone as a person

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"The problem is, that there is no manual to inform us how to describe people of different body types without offending anyone.

No one knows what is offensive or not or what is PC, and we'll go on blundering about causing b offence in one way or another

I just refer to someone as a person

I don't know what terms to use for anything anymore. Fact is, someone will be offended no matter what term is used. It's not worth worrying about.

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By *am-RaiderMan over a year ago

Corby

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

If we are not PC, are we, by default, offensive ?

When did we become so sensitive to the use of certain terms ?

Are those born, for example, in the UK, from lineages that have lived here for decades (or centuries) 'dual heritage' or are they of the same heritage but simply of different colour ?

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By *iss_tressWoman over a year ago

London

I'm 55. When I was growing up half caste was one black parent, one white parent. My parents referred to any Asian as a cooley, chinaman for every oriental, bubu for every African, THESE PEOPLE!!! for whites and funny funny nations for everyone else: to them it was a descriptor I thought it not nice as the word derogatory wasn't in vocabulary then, neither hypocrite as they were offended by coon and nignog.

Half caste is derogatory and not a word I've heard in years!

My son-in-law is white, my grandsons mixed race so I thought, until I read on here funnily enough that the new terminology is dual heritage.

Sigh...can't keep up, will just have to call them my little pickles.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

O.P.

The term half caste was coined when children were born with characteristics of one parent and characteristics of the other. e.g. a skin lighter than one parent or darker than the other parent.

I'd check your source for the rape definition.

I'm not saying abuse of women slaves didn't happen. I'm saying that there seems to be a confusion of the word cast and caste.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

P.S. I see no harm in the term half-caste but it implies a fifty fifty split so I guess mixed race is best and just to drive me even more insane I think we are ALL mixed race.

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By *ee VianteWoman over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk

"I'm 55. When I was growing up half caste was one black parent, one white parent. My parents referred to any Asian as a cooley, chinaman for every oriental, bubu for every African, THESE PEOPLE!!! for whites and funny funny nations for everyone else: to them it was a descriptor I thought it not nice as the word derogatory wasn't in vocabulary then, neither hypocrite as they were offended by coon and nignog.

Half caste is derogatory and not a word I've heard in years!

My son-in-law is white, my grandsons mixed race so I thought, until I read on here funnily enough that the new terminology is dual heritage.

Sigh...can't keep up, will just have to call them my little pickles. "

I have yet to hear a black or mixed race person say mixed race is offensive. Many mixed race people describe themselves that way. I'll stick with it.

Dual heritage sounds ridiculous and is probably inaccurate in most cases. White people and black people can still have a mixed heritage and probably have more than two in the mix.

Half caste was a common expression when I was young but it's never been part of my vocabulary. It just didn't sound nice.

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By *yrdwomanWoman over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum

How does anyone know? I mean, when I look at ambiguously brown people I don't think, oh they're Spanish/Middle Eastern/mixed race. Not sure if I am ridiculously unobservant or just not up on the defining racial characteristics that others seem to just know.

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By *ee VianteWoman over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk

"How does anyone know? I mean, when I look at ambiguously brown people I don't think, oh they're Spanish/Middle Eastern/mixed race. Not sure if I am ridiculously unobservant or just not up on the defining racial characteristics that others seem to just know."

I agree. I often can't tell at all either.

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By *r and mrs sanddancerCouple over a year ago

BOLDON COLLIERY

common sayings can change over time.

Here in South Shields years ago we were called Sand dancers (explanation too long to go in to here) as a derogatory term.

Now in 2016 we look on it with pride and are proud of the term

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By *rightonsteveMan over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!

Read the poem 'half-caste' by John Agard

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Why do we need words to describe it anyway?

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By *ee VianteWoman over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk

"Why do we need words to describe it anyway? "

So people can tick it on equality measurement forms if it applies to them.

I always write Martian now.

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By *yrdwomanWoman over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum

"Why do we need words to describe it anyway? "

Some people need to be able to compartmentalise others. Some kind of hierarchy I suspect.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Read the poem 'half-caste' by John Agard "
I had to study that in school, it's the only time I've ever heard the term be used

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"Read the poem 'half-caste' by John Agard "

I have. He seems to deliberately ignore the word caste and replace it with human.

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By *iss_tressWoman over a year ago

London

Half caste is derogatory and not a word I've heard in years!

My son-in-law is white, my grandsons mixed race so I thought, until I read on here funnily enough that the new terminology is dual heritage.

Sigh...can't keep up, will just have to call them my little pickles.

I have yet to hear a black or mixed race person say mixed race is offensive. Many mixed race people describe themselves that way. I'll stick with it.

Dual heritage sounds ridiculous and is probably inaccurate in most cases. White people and black people can still have a mixed heritage and probably have more than two in the mix.

Half caste was a common expression when I was young but it's never been part of my vocabulary. It just didn't sound nice."

I think dual heritage is ridiculous too...who comes up with this shit?

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"Why do we need words to describe it anyway?

Some people need to be able to compartmentalise others. Some kind of hierarchy I suspect."

Not some people, ALL people. Everything must be labelled. How else can we converse ?

Sad thing is when some are so terrified to use language for fear of reprisals, depending on what is in or out.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

Half caste is derogatory and not a word I've heard in years!

My son-in-law is white, my grandsons mixed race so I thought, until I read on here funnily enough that the new terminology is dual heritage.

Sigh...can't keep up, will just have to call them my little pickles.

I have yet to hear a black or mixed race person say mixed race is offensive. Many mixed race people describe themselves that way. I'll stick with it.

Dual heritage sounds ridiculous and is probably inaccurate in most cases. White people and black people can still have a mixed heritage and probably have more than two in the mix.

Half caste was a common expression when I was young but it's never been part of my vocabulary. It just didn't sound nice.

I think dual heritage is ridiculous too...who comes up with this shit? "

Uhmmmmmm six half castes and six pink men sitting round a table.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I just saw an account on here which described the male as this term. ..........................how many will continue to use the term Half-caste?"

If the person describing himself was of mixed race (my own terminology) then whats the problem.

Who is anyone to tell him how to describe himself? Patronising, condecending balderdash.

People are far too delicate over what others choose to do.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

Actually ... dual means two or half

Back to square one.

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By *ee VianteWoman over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk

Half caste is derogatory and not a word I've heard in years!

My son-in-law is white, my grandsons mixed race so I thought, until I read on here funnily enough that the new terminology is dual heritage.

Sigh...can't keep up, will just have to call them my little pickles.

I have yet to hear a black or mixed race person say mixed race is offensive. Many mixed race people describe themselves that way. I'll stick with it.

Dual heritage sounds ridiculous and is probably inaccurate in most cases. White people and black people can still have a mixed heritage and probably have more than two in the mix.

Half caste was a common expression when I was young but it's never been part of my vocabulary. It just didn't sound nice.

I think dual heritage is ridiculous too...who comes up with this shit? "

White people probably. We know so much better than anyone else what minority groups find offensive

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I cant take anyone serious who still has a curvy Ikea mirror.

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By *ee VianteWoman over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk

"I cant take anyone serious who still has a curvy Ikea mirror.

Curvy is good. I hear it all the time on here!

Real mirrors have curves. Or something.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

read ie, history file..

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

I've got it ! I've got it ! I've got it !

Binary Birthright......

Never use anything else now.. chortle

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By *icketysplitsWoman over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

"I've got it ! I've got it ! I've got it !

Binary Birthright......

Never use anything else now.. chortle"

Hmmm, what about those of us with parents with BBs?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Talking of Heritage (massive word) personally I'm of the "Out of Africa" opinion. Its accepted we all originated on the African continent - ALL Oriental Asian whoever from a very small ( possibly 1 individual) gene pool

Nature changed our physiology to cope with our new environments which changed eye shape, colour, height build etc. so we really are all from the same flesh and blood.

Until we accept this and the fact that we are closely related to each other and share the exact same heritage ( not selecting the bits of history that suit us) - nothing will change.

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By *allipygousMan over a year ago

Leicester

"I think dual heritage is ridiculous too...who comes up with this shit? "

White people

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By *allipygousMan over a year ago

Leicester

"I think dual heritage is ridiculous too...who comes up with this shit?

White people probably. We know so much better than anyone else what minority groups find offensive

Ahhhh

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By *ee VianteWoman over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk

"I've got it ! I've got it ! I've got it !

Binary Birthright......

Never use anything else now.. chortle"

Binary is still two though.

Most of us are of more than two heritages back in the past. Even those of us who aren't brown.

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By *ee VianteWoman over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk

"I've got it ! I've got it ! I've got it !

Binary Birthright......

Never use anything else now.. chortle

Hmmm, what about those of us with parents with BBs? "

Dual binary birthright.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Call me old fashioned but I think using someones name is a good starting point. If that doesn't work there are other methods.

Who is working the late shift tonight?

John.

Ok, thanks.

Who is working the late shift tonight?

Not too sure of his name. Tall fella, stupid fucking haircut.

I know who you mean. His name's John.

Who is working the late shift tonight?

Not too sure of his name. The half caste fella.

I think you mean John and please refer to him as the tall fella with the fucking stupid haircut.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"I've got it ! I've got it ! I've got it !

Binary Birthright......

Never use anything else now.. chortle

Hmmm, what about those of us with parents with BBs? "

How about Genetically Complex ?

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"Call me old fashioned but I think using someones name is a good starting point. If that doesn't work there are other methods.

Who is working the late shift tonight?

John.

Ok, thanks.

Who is working the late shift tonight?

Not too sure of his name. Tall fella, stupid fucking haircut.

I know who you mean. His name's John.

Who is working the late shift tonight?

Not too sure of his name. The half caste fella.

I think you mean John and please refer to him as the tall fella with the fucking stupid haircut."

I've lost count of the number of ways that people try to avoid describing people by their colour......so stupid.

It's become a source of amusement in work .... the woman with the red dress.... she works with Jane..... she's got specs.. you know... she likes milk in her coffee....... she went to see the Bond film last night .... she drives an audi..... she picked Tula's name in the Christmas Draw.. She's lovelyyyy.. you were talking to her yesterday at break.... Oh the black woman ? Yeah.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I was under the impression that the term 'half caste' went back to the days of the Raj, when the mixed Indian/White babies were born. Indians have the caste system (which is rife with it's own form of bigotry and racism) and was used as a derogatory term. It is not a term that has a place in today's society, especially given it's roots.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

I'd agree with that.

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By *allipygousMan over a year ago

Leicester

"Call me old fashioned but I think using someones name is a good starting point. If that doesn't work there are other methods.

Who is working the late shift tonight?

John.

Ok, thanks.

Who is working the late shift tonight?

Not too sure of his name. Tall fella, stupid fucking haircut.

I know who you mean. His name's John.

Who is working the late shift tonight?

Not too sure of his name. The half caste fella.

I think you mean John and please refer to him as the tall fella with the fucking stupid haircut.

I've lost count of the number of ways that people try to avoid describing people by their colour......so stupid.

I'm forever having this conversation with frightened white folk at work. "Just describe me as the short, handsome black fella with glasses" I say.

I'll happily point someone out as the "The young Asian girl with the red headscarf" or "The white guy in the blue shirt sitting next to the Sikh lad with the green turban." All descriptions accurate, none offensive.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Call me old fashioned but I think using someones name is a good starting point. If that doesn't work there are other methods.

Who is working the late shift tonight?

John.

Ok, thanks.

Who is working the late shift tonight?

Not too sure of his name. Tall fella, stupid fucking haircut.

I know who you mean. His name's John.

Who is working the late shift tonight?

Not too sure of his name. The half caste fella.

I think you mean John and please refer to him as the tall fella with the fucking stupid haircut.

I've lost count of the number of ways that people try to avoid describing people by their colour......so stupid.

There'll always be racism when attitudes like yours remain. Granny by name granny by nature.

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By *allipygousMan over a year ago

Leicester

"Call me old fashioned but I think using someones name is a good starting point. If that doesn't work there are other methods.

Who is working the late shift tonight?

John.

Ok, thanks.

Who is working the late shift tonight?

Not too sure of his name. Tall fella, stupid fucking haircut.

I know who you mean. His name's John.

Who is working the late shift tonight?

Not too sure of his name. The half caste fella.

I think you mean John and please refer to him as the tall fella with the fucking stupid haircut.

I've lost count of the number of ways that people try to avoid describing people by their colour......so stupid.

There'll always be racism when attitudes like yours remain. Granny by name granny by nature.

It's people like you that are the problem. Granny's post was not racist. If, like me, you've read a lot of her posts over the years you will know she is far from racist. Now, if you wanted to accuse her of being a misandrist...

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Call me old fashioned but I think using someones name is a good starting point. If that doesn't work there are other methods.

Who is working the late shift tonight?

John.

Ok, thanks.

Who is working the late shift tonight?

Not too sure of his name. Tall fella, stupid fucking haircut.

I know who you mean. His name's John.

Who is working the late shift tonight?

Not too sure of his name. The half caste fella.

I think you mean John and please refer to him as the tall fella with the fucking stupid haircut.

I've lost count of the number of ways that people try to avoid describing people by their colour......so stupid.

There'll always be racism when attitudes like yours remain. Granny by name granny by nature.

Sorry but thankfully I haven't been on here for years

When someone says they don't see the problem with the term Half Caste I'll form my own opinion thanks. You can have yours

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By *allipygousMan over a year ago

Leicester

"Call me old fashioned but I think using someones name is a good starting point. If that doesn't work there are other methods.

Who is working the late shift tonight?

John.

Ok, thanks.

Who is working the late shift tonight?

Not too sure of his name. Tall fella, stupid fucking haircut.

I know who you mean. His name's John.

Who is working the late shift tonight?

Not too sure of his name. The half caste fella.

I think you mean John and please refer to him as the tall fella with the fucking stupid haircut.

I've lost count of the number of ways that people try to avoid describing people by their colour......so stupid.

There'll always be racism when attitudes like yours remain. Granny by name granny by nature.

Sorry but thankfully I haven't been on here for years

When someone says they don't see the problem with the term Half Caste I'll form my own opinion thanks. You can have yours

Yes, and when that opinion differs it's always best to debate and not act like a recalcitrant child.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Call me old fashioned but I think using someones name is a good starting point. If that doesn't work there are other methods.

Who is working the late shift tonight?

John.

Ok, thanks.

Who is working the late shift tonight?

Not too sure of his name. Tall fella, stupid fucking haircut.

I know who you mean. His name's John.

Who is working the late shift tonight?

Not too sure of his name. The half caste fella.

I think you mean John and please refer to him as the tall fella with the fucking stupid haircut.

I've lost count of the number of ways that people try to avoid describing people by their colour......so stupid.

There'll always be racism when attitudes like yours remain. Granny by name granny by nature.

Sorry but thankfully I haven't been on here for years

When someone says they don't see the problem with the term Half Caste I'll form my own opinion thanks. You can have yours

Yes, and when that opinion differs it's always best to debate and not act like a recalcitrant child."

I'd already debated earlier in the thread. Name calling isn't actually mature is it? Like I said you have your opinion I have mine. Most people I know wouldn't entertain the term Half Caste and haven't for years. It's not exactly new!!!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I always thought it was derived from the Latin term castus meaning pure, oh well learn something new everyday "

It is.......white was seen as pure. So if you were "half caste" you were only half pure...and by implication half impure. The term is therefore, right,y seen as derogatory at the least and can be seen (by some if not all) as racist.

The term was in use long before the days of mass slavery in the colony's etc. Romans had many slaves/servants from conquered countries and would often use them for sex too so the implication is still the same!

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By *allipygousMan over a year ago

Leicester

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By *allipygousMan over a year ago

Leicester

"There'll always be racism when attitudes like yours remain. Granny by name granny by nature.

Sorry but thankfully I haven't been on here for years

When someone says they don't see the problem with the term Half Caste I'll form my own opinion thanks. You can have yours

Yes, and when that opinion differs it's always best to debate and not act like a recalcitrant child.

I haven't name-called. You, however...

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"There'll always be racism when attitudes like yours remain. Granny by name granny by nature.

Sorry but thankfully I haven't been on here for years

When someone says they don't see the problem with the term Half Caste I'll form my own opinion thanks. You can have yours

Yes, and when that opinion differs it's always best to debate and not act like a recalcitrant child.

I haven't name-called. You, however..."

Recalcitrant child?? Anyway as I said our views differ. No problem with that. Good luck with yours.

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By *allipygousMan over a year ago

Leicester

"There'll always be racism when attitudes like yours remain. Granny by name granny by nature.

Sorry but thankfully I haven't been on here for years

When someone says they don't see the problem with the term Half Caste I'll form my own opinion thanks. You can have yours

Yes, and when that opinion differs it's always best to debate and not act like a recalcitrant child.

I haven't name-called. You, however...

Recalcitrant child?? Anyway as I said our views differ. No problem with that. Good luck with yours."

I said it's best to not act like one, not that you were one. See the difference?