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"I knew I was 'special' from quite early on a survey would have been a waste of time.. I was too busy flicking thro the Freemans clubbie book looking at the men in their Y fronts..." | |||
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"My neice said, over family dinner at the weekend, that one of her mates at school was gay, and she was 13! I just don't understand how or why kids are thinking like that so young. I know that they are starting to sexually explore etc at the age, but surely they can't know if they are gay or not. From a personal point of _iew, it seems that in the last few years, society and media have been pushing this whole gay thing. I don't mind if someone wants to be gay, thats fine. But when it's more of a 'being gay to be cool' thing, then thats really not right." You are joking right? | |||
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"My neice said, over family dinner at the weekend, that one of her mates at school was gay, and she was 13! I just don't understand how or why kids are thinking like that so young. I know that they are starting to sexually explore etc at the age, but surely they can't know if they are gay or not. From a personal point of _iew, it seems that in the last few years, society and media have been pushing this whole gay thing. I don't mind if someone wants to be gay, thats fine. But when it's more of a 'being gay to be cool' thing, then thats really not right. You are joking right?" Sadly...I don't think he is! | |||
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"Can't be bothered to google ,but if it is true that the question is might be gay it is not about labelling but about finding out how children feel about themselves. i assume all those anti here would prefer confused and troubled kids be left to worry until they reach an "acceptable" age.i was playing nurse and nurse before 11,and spent many years worrying until i discovered the term bi sexual at 16. Ignorance is never helpful.Those who believe children live in some fairy tale world until evil adults teach them words are deluded,and quite frankly dangerous.In discussions like this i am always reminded of the death that caused the Samaritans to be founded.A suicide of a young girl because she believed her first period meant she was dying from cancer. Her parents believed ignorance was bliss too. " You assume incorrectly. Why would you make such an assumption? Who said anything about preferring that kids were confused or troubled? I'm fairly sure no-one would want that for their children but I'd like to think that kids would be able to talk to their parents or to a friend or family member if something was troubling them, not complete some random survey making them believe stuff that isn't relevant or necessary for them to know at the age of 11. Ignorance is not helpful, neither are assumptions. | |||
"Just seen a piece on The Wright Stuff about a proposed survey to be carried out by the Equalities Commission asking 11 year olds about their sexuality and whether or not they think they are gay. This may be carried out with or without parental consent. The debate was around parental consent, whether or not 11 year olds are able to articulate their sexual feelings adequately, whether Govt should provide a forum for such discussions if parents cant, and also about what the survey would be used for etc. We see so many discussions on here about sexual 'labels'....should 11 year olds be involved in those sorts of discussions?" I would like to know what they plan on doing with the survey results | |||
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"Can't be bothered to google ,but if it is true that the question is might be gay it is not about labelling but about finding out how children feel about themselves. i assume all those anti here would prefer confused and troubled kids be left to worry until they reach an "acceptable" age.i was playing nurse and nurse before 11,and spent many years worrying until i discovered the term bi sexual at 16. Ignorance is never helpful.Those who believe children live in some fairy tale world until evil adults teach them words are deluded,and quite frankly dangerous.In discussions like this i am always reminded of the death that caused the Samaritans to be founded.A suicide of a young girl because she believed her first period meant she was dying from cancer. Her parents believed ignorance was bliss too. You assume incorrectly. Why would you make such an assumption? Who said anything about preferring that kids were confused or troubled? I'm fairly sure no-one would want that for their children but I'd like to think that kids would be able to talk to their parents or to a friend or family member if something was troubling them, not complete some random survey making them believe stuff that isn't relevant or necessary for them to know at the age of 11. Ignorance is not helpful, neither are assumptions. " Totally random survey?Surveys cost money the point of this survey is "It says monitoring sexual orientation among youngsters could help to prevent them from becoming victims of discrimination, and claims that ‘some young people begin to question their sexual orientation as early as age eight and may begin to identify as LGB (lesbian, gay, bisexual) from early adolescence’. The equalities commision needs to know whether children face these issues because in the real world not every childs can go and talk to friends and family.So yes,it does seem like the anti's are pro ignorance,fear and troubled children.As they oppose research that would help make things better for them. Another quote "he report – Researching and Monitoring Adolescence and Sexual Orientation: Asking the Right Questions, at the Right Time – says it is ‘critical’ to track children’s sexuality to ‘shed light on the complexities of young people’s developing sexual orientation and how this may disadvantage them’. It tell researchers not to dismiss gay feelings of inter_iewees as ‘a passing phase’. Some youngsters, it says, may use categories such as ‘questioning’, ‘queer’, ‘pansexual’, ‘genderqueer’, ‘asexual’, ‘pan-romantic’ and even ‘trisexual’. Last night, a commission spokesman said: ‘This is independent research produced to help the commission form its policy direction.’ And you do not answer my point of why people believe children live in a hermetically sealed room untill evil lefties put nasty ideas into their heads...here are two potential scenarios. child a reads form"Do you believe you might be gay£ Sniggers,it says gay,writes no.Goes out to play football.There is not an 11 yr ld in the country who doesn't know the word Child b thinks,well i have wondered for a while,but cant tell my family cos dad always goes on about fucking poufters,i want to write yes,but i'm scared..ok i will... Research collected,data crunched,it determines there are a percentage of children at secondary school who believe that are gay,and therefore schools need to be aware of the issues they might face. Oh and yes the girls parents should have spoken to her,but they believed she was too young for the talk.Sound failar? Why this matters? Lesbian, gay, and bisexual youth are up to four times more likely to attempt suicide than their heterosexual peers (Massachusetts Youth Risk Survey 2007). Google the Trevor project to find out more about the suicide prevention work with young LGBTG Teens. | |||
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"My neice said, over family dinner at the weekend, that one of her mates at school was gay, and she was 13! I just don't understand how or why kids are thinking like that so young. I know that they are starting to sexually explore etc at the age, but surely they can't know if they are gay or not. From a personal point of _iew, it seems that in the last few years, society and media have been pushing this whole gay thing. I don't mind if someone wants to be gay, thats fine. But when it's more of a 'being gay to be cool' thing, then thats really not right." This has been going on for some time now. At least ten years that I have noticed this tendency to _iew it as "cool" or "in vogue". | |||
"My neice said, over family dinner at the weekend, that one of her mates at school was gay, and she was 13! I just don't understand how or why kids are thinking like that so young. I know that they are starting to sexually explore etc at the age, but surely they can't know if they are gay or not. From a personal point of _iew, it seems that in the last few years, society and media have been pushing this whole gay thing. I don't mind if someone wants to be gay, thats fine. But when it's more of a 'being gay to be cool' thing, then thats really not right. This has been going on for some time now. At least ten years that I have noticed this tendency to _iew it as "cool" or "in vogue"." Only among girls though. Pre-teen boys kissing boys is still almost 100% uncool, generally speaking. | |||
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"I hate the whole are you gay type thing! people have asked me over and over again and it pisses me off, I am happy to be with a women or a man and it hasn't started as an adult but well and truly before. I remember having a kiss with my friends both female and male from about junior school. it led to sleeping with both boys and girls through out my teenage years. I just hate that at so so young there trying to stick a label on you. just let them grow and let them be happy who ever they are with. long ago gay men would marry women to hide it but recently I have met one or two people who came out as gay strait away as society changed but the reason being they found men sexually attractive yet after dating both they decided they were neither gay or strait. I think at a young age as long as they no niether is wrong and they shouldn't be scared of how they are feeling, there is little good that can come out of asking which they are." yep | |||
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