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"Cowardly. Completely undermines the BLM message and made it not about those two men anymore. " This. How is the taking of more innocent lives going to fix the problem? | |||
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"4 police officers killed and 11 more shot at a Black Lives Matters protest in Dallas. Crazy world we live in "Well,who saw that coming. ...  | |||
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how sad,I seen things on news last night but been avoiding a lot of stuff on my fb feed | |||
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"It's terrible. But odd that no one seems to know about the two suicide bombings in the Middle East this week "So whats your point? | |||
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"It's terrible. But odd that no one seems to know about the two suicide bombings in the Middle East this week
So whats your point? "I think his point can't be more clearer. | |||
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"White people being killed by police doesn't make the news. Doesn't make killing white people right either" Perhaps it depends on the circumstances though ? | |||
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"It is a total disgrace ! The black panthers needs to do a come back ! " So you're advocating that police officers should be killed? In no way am I excusing the killings of black men but how can further killing be right? | |||
"It is a total disgrace ! The black panthers needs to do a come back ! So you're advocating that police officers should be killed? In no way am I excusing the killings of black men but how can further killing be right?" Hahaha I was pretty sure that would happen ! That's your intrepretation of what I said, not actually what I have said. If you see the black panthers as cops' killers, well you need to read more about when and why they have been founded and the stuffs they were doing aside defending black people to get killed by Police. Police should protect, yet when they fail at it, and some people feel threaten by them, they have the right to self defense. Simply as that. | |||
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"White people being killed by police doesn't make the news. Perhaps it depends on the circumstances though ? " I meant as in Philando Castile appears to have just been shot in cold blood and it was live streamed. If that happened to anyone there would be an outcry. | |||
"It's not about killing but self defense! " How was sniping Police officers who were policing a peaceful demonstration self defence? | |||
"Have the police become a gang? Just a gang with a warrant?" Exactly, it seems so to some extent. All coppers aren't like that though, and thanks god in this country they are so respectful and somewhat respected as well. | |||
"Have the police become a gang? Just a gang with a warrant?" Usually with these events it's all down to who's sequence of events you believe. With the two recent deaths of black males by the police there is video evidence of both. They're shocking and both look like murder. I absolutely hate guns and think they bring so much trouble. Especially in the hands of people who put so much stock in them. | |||
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"It's not about killing but self defense! " So how is a sniper killing people self defense? | |||
"It's not about killing but self defense! How was sniping Police officers who were policing a peaceful demonstration self defence? " If your concept of self defense is biased it isn't my fault! 'Be peaceful, be courteous, obey the law, respect everyone; but if someone puts his hand on you, send him to the cemetery.' - Malcolm X- I would like to add to this that you need to read under the lines and understand the context of that quote. If someone want to hurt you for the pleasure of doing it, you have the right to self defense. | |||
"It's not about killing but self defense! So how is a sniper killing people self defense?" It is not! Shall I state how I self defense ? | |||
"It's not about killing but self defense! So how is a sniper killing people self defense?" They're not. I think it's more of a wide spread self defence. That rhetoric if you think of it as all police vs all black males. It sounds absurd to us but current events have brought about that feeling of division not seen on this scale for decades. It seems like another watts riots waiting to happen | |||
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"White people being killed by police doesn't make the news. Doesn't make killing white people right either" White people kill and get killed... Then the law prosecutes. Case closed. It hits the news because when a black person gets killed it always smells fishy. No prosecution. Everyday black on black crime isn't televised either. Black guy kills white guy.. He gets 150 years... Think about your comment. ... | |||
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"It is a total disgrace ! The black panthers needs to do a come back ! " Amen | |||
"It is a total disgrace ! The black panthers needs to do a come back ! So you're advocating that police officers should be killed? In no way am I excusing the killings of black men but how can further killing be right? Hahaha I was pretty sure that would happen ! That's your intrepretation of what I said, not actually what I have said. If you see the black panthers as cops' killers, well you need to read more about when and why they have been founded and the stuffs they were doing aside defending black people to get killed by Police. Police should protect, yet when they fail at it, and some people feel threaten by them, they have the right to self defense. Simply as that. " Mate. Perfect response. Very educated. | |||
"It's not about killing but self defense! So how is a sniper killing people self defense? It is not! Shall I state how I self defense ? " Not if you are going to speak like you did on the last post no. I have only had one cuppa up to now and I might answer how I shouldn't. Then I will get told off by Admin.  | |||
"A very sad week for all concerned in the USA ( just saw the news for the whole week )...but I always thought that something like today although not right would eventually happen. " I read an article in a popular men's mag about 10-12 years ago and it stuck with me since. It was about predicting the future of world. It's main points were - mainland uk would be an isolated state, walled and surrounded by razor wire - government as we know it wouldn't exist - racial tensions and class war would prevail worldwide especially the US which would have a second civil war - the Europe/Middle East border would become a huge no mans land due to the large scale war between the last few remaining European Union members and one United middle eastern army. Mad when I read it. Now, not so much | |||
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"[Removed by poster at 08/07/16 08:34:46]" I am sorry I got carried away, and didn't even realised what I was doing. My bad sorry  | |||
"4 police officers killed and 11 more shot at a Black Lives Matters protest in Dallas. Crazy world we live in "Haven't seen the news yet, but sadly it was inevitable. | |||
" how sad,I seen things on news last night but been avoiding a lot of stuff on my fb feed "Need to stop avoiding stuff like this. This is typical of a lot of people. It starts with conversation. | |||
"It's terrible. But odd that no one seems to know about the two suicide bombings in the Middle East this week "Again inevitable. No westerners killed, not a holiday hot spot for westerners, ergo, to the media, who gives a fuck! | |||
"Google stats on police killings in USA this year alone....make your own judgement on rascism" There was that panorama programme the other week......disturbing figures and virtually none of those shootings lead to dismissal or court cases! | |||
"There was an inevitabilty that something like this would happen. Saddest thing is it's pretty much guaranteed that no one will learn anything and this will be the catalyst for more bloodshed " My thoughts too. | |||
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"A very sad week for all concerned in the USA ( just saw the news for the whole week )...but I always thought that something like today although not right would eventually happen. I read an article in a popular men's mag about 10-12 years ago and it stuck with me since. It was about predicting the future of world. It's main points were - mainland uk would be an isolated state, walled and surrounded by razor wire - government as we know it wouldn't exist - racial tensions and class war would prevail worldwide especially the US which would have a second civil war - the Europe/Middle East border would become a huge no mans land due to the large scale war between the last few remaining European Union members and one United middle eastern army. Mad when I read it. Now, not so much " It is worrying isn't it.  | |||
"It seems that some people have a problem the law and think there above it. " Recently though the police themselves think like that. Usually I don't comment until a trial or verdict but there's video evidence of it this time. Police have to follow the law too. In fact probably have more guidelines to follow on top of the law than anyone else | |||
"A very sad week for all concerned in the USA ( just saw the news for the whole week )...but I always thought that something like today although not right would eventually happen. I read an article in a popular men's mag about 10-12 years ago and it stuck with me since. It was about predicting the future of world. It's main points were - mainland uk would be an isolated state, walled and surrounded by razor wire - government as we know it wouldn't exist - racial tensions and class war would prevail worldwide especially the US which would have a second civil war - the Europe/Middle East border would become a huge no mans land due to the large scale war between the last few remaining European Union members and one United middle eastern army. Mad when I read it. Now, not so much It is worrying isn't it. "It is when I remember at the time thinking how crazy an image it was and then now it seems very credible | |||
"A very sad week for all concerned in the USA ( just saw the news for the whole week )...but I always thought that something like today although not right would eventually happen. " Sadly, so did I and no one wins. | |||
"It seems that some people have a problem the law and think there above it. " Now I know no one saw what happened before the videos were turned on but yes you are right, it looks like some police thought they were above the law this week. | |||
"It seems that some people have a problem the law and think there above it. " Seems some of the police do! | |||
"It seems that some people have a problem the law and think there above it. Recently though the police themselves think like that. Usually I don't comment until a trial or verdict but there's video evidence of it this time. Police have to follow the law too. In fact probably have more guidelines to follow on top of the law than anyone else " | |||
"It seems that some people have a problem the law and think there above it. Seems some of the police do!" Will all change when Trump gets in He is the Law  | |||
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"A very sad week for all concerned in the USA ( just saw the news for the whole week )...but I always thought that something like today although not right would eventually happen. I read an article in a popular men's mag about 10-12 years ago and it stuck with me since. It was about predicting the future of world. It's main points were - mainland uk would be an isolated state, walled and surrounded by razor wire - government as we know it wouldn't exist - racial tensions and class war would prevail worldwide especially the US which would have a second civil war - the Europe/Middle East border would become a huge no mans land due to the large scale war between the last few remaining European Union members and one United middle eastern army. Mad when I read it. Now, not so much " It seems like we are going backwards in the world. Some people only learn when it's too late. | |||
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"A very sad week for all concerned in the USA ( just saw the news for the whole week )...but I always thought that something like today although not right would eventually happen. I read an article in a popular men's mag about 10-12 years ago and it stuck with me since. It was about predicting the future of world. It's main points were - mainland uk would be an isolated state, walled and surrounded by razor wire - government as we know it wouldn't exist - racial tensions and class war would prevail worldwide especially the US which would have a second civil war - the Europe/Middle East border would become a huge no mans land due to the large scale war between the last few remaining European Union members and one United middle eastern army. Mad when I read it. Now, not so much It seems like we are going backwards in the world. Some people only learn when it's too late. " It's cyclical. We never know when we're on to a good thing. We're the most self destructive species on the planet | |||
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"I've seen 2 different news stories in this...1 saying it was a lone gunman who jumped out of a 4x4 and just randomly opened fire and another report saying that there was 2 snipers on top of a building...but no helicopters were filming and no swat teams stormed the buiding....I'm off to put on my tin foil hat...this sounds dodgy" I've been watching MSNBC.... they are saying 3 snipers on roofs in triangulated positions.... so whoever did this used the march (which went off peacefully may we add) as cover.... this took some planning so i wouldn't be pointing this at any group right now.... | |||
"A very sad week for all concerned in the USA ( just saw the news for the whole week )...but I always thought that something like today although not right would eventually happen. I read an article in a popular men's mag about 10-12 years ago and it stuck with me since. It was about predicting the future of world. It's main points were - mainland uk would be an isolated state, walled and surrounded by razor wire - government as we know it wouldn't exist - racial tensions and class war would prevail worldwide especially the US which would have a second civil war - the Europe/Middle East border would become a huge no mans land due to the large scale war between the last few remaining European Union members and one United middle eastern army. Mad when I read it. Now, not so much It seems like we are going backwards in the world. Some people only learn when it's too late. It's cyclical. We never know when we're on to a good thing. We're the most self destructive species on the planet " I read History. I remember a discussion on it from a lecturer who's family were sent to concentration camps. All the people who die in vain. | |||
"It's terrible. But odd that no one seems to know about the two suicide bombings in the Middle East this week "Because theres always suicide bombings in the middle east (been a lot more bombings than 2 this week for a start) and they bare little to no impact on our society. Civil unrest like this in a comparable society though is fresh and interesting news. You could equally say "of that mo one seems to know of the thousands of children dying of easily preventable diseases this week" The news feeds on our desire to be "informed" so that we can be "prepared", much like gossip in our social circles, so it has to try to remain vaugly relevant to our immediate lives. Although the Medina bombing will affect us as it may make the Saudis invest in mkre electronic survailence equipment for counter terrorism, something the UK is famous for. There's hardly a despot or tyrant who doesnt use our equipment. | |||
"A very sad week for all concerned in the USA ( just saw the news for the whole week )...but I always thought that something like today although not right would eventually happen. I read an article in a popular men's mag about 10-12 years ago and it stuck with me since. It was about predicting the future of world. It's main points were - mainland uk would be an isolated state, walled and surrounded by razor wire - government as we know it wouldn't exist - racial tensions and class war would prevail worldwide especially the US which would have a second civil war - the Europe/Middle East border would become a huge no mans land due to the large scale war between the last few remaining European Union members and one United middle eastern army. Mad when I read it. Now, not so much It seems like we are going backwards in the world. Some people only learn when it's too late. It's cyclical. We never know when we're on to a good thing. We're the most self destructive species on the planet I read History. I remember a discussion on it from a lecturer who's family were sent to concentration camps. All the people who die in vain. " I fear our generation will be the subject of many a text book. 30-40 years ago the vision of the future was modern advancement, high spec tech. Now it's post apocalyptic and suffering. What a mess we're making | |||
"A very sad week for all concerned in the USA ( just saw the news for the whole week )...but I always thought that something like today although not right would eventually happen. I read an article in a popular men's mag about 10-12 years ago and it stuck with me since. It was about predicting the future of world. It's main points were - mainland uk would be an isolated state, walled and surrounded by razor wire - government as we know it wouldn't exist - racial tensions and class war would prevail worldwide especially the US which would have a second civil war - the Europe/Middle East border would become a huge no mans land due to the large scale war between the last few remaining European Union members and one United middle eastern army. Mad when I read it. Now, not so much It seems like we are going backwards in the world. Some people only learn when it's too late. It's cyclical. We never know when we're on to a good thing. We're the most self destructive species on the planet " Clearly you've never encountered a rabbit before then. But on that note human beings rank the absolute bottom of the "red list" of endangered animals (ie, the safest and least likley to become extinct of anything on earth) We're more hardy than cockroaches | |||
"A very sad week for all concerned in the USA ( just saw the news for the whole week )...but I always thought that something like today although not right would eventually happen. I read an article in a popular men's mag about 10-12 years ago and it stuck with me since. It was about predicting the future of world. It's main points were - mainland uk would be an isolated state, walled and surrounded by razor wire - government as we know it wouldn't exist - racial tensions and class war would prevail worldwide especially the US which would have a second civil war - the Europe/Middle East border would become a huge no mans land due to the large scale war between the last few remaining European Union members and one United middle eastern army. Mad when I read it. Now, not so much It seems like we are going backwards in the world. Some people only learn when it's too late. It's cyclical. We never know when we're on to a good thing. We're the most self destructive species on the planet I read History. I remember a discussion on it from a lecturer who's family were sent to concentration camps. All the people who die in vain. I fear our generation will be the subject of many a text book. 30-40 years ago the vision of the future was modern advancement, high spec tech. Now it's post apocalyptic and suffering. What a mess we're making" Sadly 100% right. | |||
"It's terrible. But odd that no one seems to know about the two suicide bombings in the Middle East this week "Perhaps of your only source of news is Facebook. I was certainly aware; even the BBC covered them. | |||
"A very sad week for all concerned in the USA ( just saw the news for the whole week )...but I always thought that something like today although not right would eventually happen. I read an article in a popular men's mag about 10-12 years ago and it stuck with me since. It was about predicting the future of world. It's main points were - mainland uk would be an isolated state, walled and surrounded by razor wire - government as we know it wouldn't exist - racial tensions and class war would prevail worldwide especially the US which would have a second civil war - the Europe/Middle East border would become a huge no mans land due to the large scale war between the last few remaining European Union members and one United middle eastern army. Mad when I read it. Now, not so much It seems like we are going backwards in the world. Some people only learn when it's too late. It's cyclical. We never know when we're on to a good thing. We're the most self destructive species on the planet I read History. I remember a discussion on it from a lecturer who's family were sent to concentration camps. All the people who die in vain. I fear our generation will be the subject of many a text book. 30-40 years ago the vision of the future was modern advancement, high spec tech. Now it's post apocalyptic and suffering. What a mess we're making Sadly 100% right." Well no its not. Not even remotley close to right is it. You live in a time where climate change now ranks above nuclear war on the doomsday clock. You're further than ever from meeting the apocalypse through armed conflict. Yet technology is advancing at a phenomenal rate we have private companies doing space missions, skylon and reaction engines giving a glimpse of the future of spae flight, a new race for the moon looming too. My company alone is looking to build and launch over 1000 satellites in the next 5 years. And china just recently launched a satellite which is the god damn spaceship capturing satalite feom the James bond film. | |||
"A very sad week for all concerned in the USA ( just saw the news for the whole week )...but I always thought that something like today although not right would eventually happen. I read an article in a popular men's mag about 10-12 years ago and it stuck with me since. It was about predicting the future of world. It's main points were - mainland uk would be an isolated state, walled and surrounded by razor wire - government as we know it wouldn't exist - racial tensions and class war would prevail worldwide especially the US which would have a second civil war - the Europe/Middle East border would become a huge no mans land due to the large scale war between the last few remaining European Union members and one United middle eastern army. Mad when I read it. Now, not so much It seems like we are going backwards in the world. Some people only learn when it's too late. It's cyclical. We never know when we're on to a good thing. We're the most self destructive species on the planet I read History. I remember a discussion on it from a lecturer who's family were sent to concentration camps. All the people who die in vain. I fear our generation will be the subject of many a text book. 30-40 years ago the vision of the future was modern advancement, high spec tech. Now it's post apocalyptic and suffering. What a mess we're making Sadly 100% right. Well no its not. Not even remotley close to right is it. You live in a time where climate change now ranks above nuclear war on the doomsday clock. You're further than ever from meeting the apocalypse through armed conflict. Yet technology is advancing at a phenomenal rate we have private companies doing space missions, skylon and reaction engines giving a glimpse of the future of spae flight, a new race for the moon looming too. My company alone is looking to build and launch over 1000 satellites in the next 5 years. And china just recently launched a satellite which is the god damn spaceship capturing satalite feom the James bond film. " Are you just looking for an argument? I know you can't help yourself. Sorry but I'm not talking about SATELLITES. I was agreeing that war is cyclical. Anyone can see that from history. That OK with you? | |||
"A very sad week for all concerned in the USA ( just saw the news for the whole week )...but I always thought that something like today although not right would eventually happen. I read an article in a popular men's mag about 10-12 years ago and it stuck with me since. It was about predicting the future of world. It's main points were - mainland uk would be an isolated state, walled and surrounded by razor wire - government as we know it wouldn't exist - racial tensions and class war would prevail worldwide especially the US which would have a second civil war - the Europe/Middle East border would become a huge no mans land due to the large scale war between the last few remaining European Union members and one United middle eastern army. Mad when I read it. Now, not so much It seems like we are going backwards in the world. Some people only learn when it's too late. It's cyclical. We never know when we're on to a good thing. We're the most self destructive species on the planet I read History. I remember a discussion on it from a lecturer who's family were sent to concentration camps. All the people who die in vain. I fear our generation will be the subject of many a text book. 30-40 years ago the vision of the future was modern advancement, high spec tech. Now it's post apocalyptic and suffering. What a mess we're making Sadly 100% right. Well no its not. Not even remotley close to right is it. You live in a time where climate change now ranks above nuclear war on the doomsday clock. You're further than ever from meeting the apocalypse through armed conflict. Yet technology is advancing at a phenomenal rate we have private companies doing space missions, skylon and reaction engines giving a glimpse of the future of spae flight, a new race for the moon looming too. My company alone is looking to build and launch over 1000 satellites in the next 5 years. And china just recently launched a satellite which is the god damn spaceship capturing satalite feom the James bond film. " Maybe I explained it wrong. The image of the future from the 50's and 60's was of a sleek, happy, clean world. Take the Epcot world of the future exhibit at Disney for example. The outlook was a positive one. One of modern science, healthy living and peace. The media representation of the future was positive. Now take the average Hollywood movie based 40-50-100 years from now. The image projected is usually of an "event" causing a post apocalyptic world. I'm not saying technology isn't advancing (it has done faster over the last 10 years than the previous 100) Just that the projected image of the future is not long as positive as it once was. I'm sorry I didn't explain my point clearer | |||
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"A very sad week for all concerned in the USA ( just saw the news for the whole week )...but I always thought that something like today although not right would eventually happen. I read an article in a popular men's mag about 10-12 years ago and it stuck with me since. It was about predicting the future of world. It's main points were - mainland uk would be an isolated state, walled and surrounded by razor wire - government as we know it wouldn't exist - racial tensions and class war would prevail worldwide especially the US which would have a second civil war - the Europe/Middle East border would become a huge no mans land due to the large scale war between the last few remaining European Union members and one United middle eastern army. Mad when I read it. Now, not so much It seems like we are going backwards in the world. Some people only learn when it's too late. It's cyclical. We never know when we're on to a good thing. We're the most self destructive species on the planet I read History. I remember a discussion on it from a lecturer who's family were sent to concentration camps. All the people who die in vain. I fear our generation will be the subject of many a text book. 30-40 years ago the vision of the future was modern advancement, high spec tech. Now it's post apocalyptic and suffering. What a mess we're making Sadly 100% right. Well no its not. Not even remotley close to right is it. You live in a time where climate change now ranks above nuclear war on the doomsday clock. You're further than ever from meeting the apocalypse through armed conflict. Yet technology is advancing at a phenomenal rate we have private companies doing space missions, skylon and reaction engines giving a glimpse of the future of spae flight, a new race for the moon looming too. My company alone is looking to build and launch over 1000 satellites in the next 5 years. And china just recently launched a satellite which is the god damn spaceship capturing satalite feom the James bond film. Maybe I explained it wrong. The image of the future from the 50's and 60's was of a sleek, happy, clean world. Take the Epcot world of the future exhibit at Disney for example. The outlook was a positive one. One of modern science, healthy living and peace. The media representation of the future was positive. Now take the average Hollywood movie based 40-50-100 years from now. The image projected is usually of an "event" causing a post apocalyptic world. I'm not saying technology isn't advancing (it has done faster over the last 10 years than the previous 100) Just that the projected image of the future is not long as positive as it once was. I'm sorry I didn't explain my point clearer " Films are based more on what theme is popular and sells, rather than being a projection of the future. I'm not really sure you use theme as a barometer! | |||
"A very sad week for all concerned in the USA ( just saw the news for the whole week )...but I always thought that something like today although not right would eventually happen. I read an article in a popular men's mag about 10-12 years ago and it stuck with me since. It was about predicting the future of world. It's main points were - mainland uk would be an isolated state, walled and surrounded by razor wire - government as we know it wouldn't exist - racial tensions and class war would prevail worldwide especially the US which would have a second civil war - the Europe/Middle East border would become a huge no mans land due to the large scale war between the last few remaining European Union members and one United middle eastern army. Mad when I read it. Now, not so much It seems like we are going backwards in the world. Some people only learn when it's too late. It's cyclical. We never know when we're on to a good thing. We're the most self destructive species on the planet I read History. I remember a discussion on it from a lecturer who's family were sent to concentration camps. All the people who die in vain. I fear our generation will be the subject of many a text book. 30-40 years ago the vision of the future was modern advancement, high spec tech. Now it's post apocalyptic and suffering. What a mess we're making Sadly 100% right. Well no its not. Not even remotley close to right is it. You live in a time where climate change now ranks above nuclear war on the doomsday clock. You're further than ever from meeting the apocalypse through armed conflict. Yet technology is advancing at a phenomenal rate we have private companies doing space missions, skylon and reaction engines giving a glimpse of the future of spae flight, a new race for the moon looming too. My company alone is looking to build and launch over 1000 satellites in the next 5 years. And china just recently launched a satellite which is the god damn spaceship capturing satalite feom the James bond film. Maybe I explained it wrong. The image of the future from the 50's and 60's was of a sleek, happy, clean world. Take the Epcot world of the future exhibit at Disney for example. The outlook was a positive one. One of modern science, healthy living and peace. The media representation of the future was positive. Now take the average Hollywood movie based 40-50-100 years from now. The image projected is usually of an "event" causing a post apocalyptic world. I'm not saying technology isn't advancing (it has done faster over the last 10 years than the previous 100) Just that the projected image of the future is not long as positive as it once was. I'm sorry I didn't explain my point clearer Films are based more on what theme is popular and sells, rather than being a projection of the future. I'm not really sure you use theme as a barometer!" If you actually believe I use films as my barometer of current and future events then that's just silly. I was merely stating that popular culture has adapted it's vision of the future from a positive to a negative. Do I really have to spend the rest of this thread arguing over this? 5 guys got shot and killed today. Get back on topic please | |||
"A very sad week for all concerned in the USA ( just saw the news for the whole week )...but I always thought that something like today although not right would eventually happen. I read an article in a popular men's mag about 10-12 years ago and it stuck with me since. It was about predicting the future of world. It's main points were - mainland uk would be an isolated state, walled and surrounded by razor wire - government as we know it wouldn't exist - racial tensions and class war would prevail worldwide especially the US which would have a second civil war - the Europe/Middle East border would become a huge no mans land due to the large scale war between the last few remaining European Union members and one United middle eastern army. Mad when I read it. Now, not so much It seems like we are going backwards in the world. Some people only learn when it's too late. It's cyclical. We never know when we're on to a good thing. We're the most self destructive species on the planet I read History. I remember a discussion on it from a lecturer who's family were sent to concentration camps. All the people who die in vain. I fear our generation will be the subject of many a text book. 30-40 years ago the vision of the future was modern advancement, high spec tech. Now it's post apocalyptic and suffering. What a mess we're making Sadly 100% right. Well no its not. Not even remotley close to right is it. You live in a time where climate change now ranks above nuclear war on the doomsday clock. You're further than ever from meeting the apocalypse through armed conflict. Yet technology is advancing at a phenomenal rate we have private companies doing space missions, skylon and reaction engines giving a glimpse of the future of spae flight, a new race for the moon looming too. My company alone is looking to build and launch over 1000 satellites in the next 5 years. And china just recently launched a satellite which is the god damn spaceship capturing satalite feom the James bond film. Are you just looking for an argument? I know you can't help yourself. Sorry but I'm not talking about SATELLITES. I was agreeing that war is cyclical. Anyone can see that from history. That OK with you? "You quoted a post saying that in the past the future was going to be modern and full of high tech stuff. But now its going to be post apocalyptic and said 100% agree. That doesnt really say war is cyclical. And war isn't cyclical any more war changed in the 50s we reached a point where the major powers could no longer go to war. And if they did there certainly wouldn't be another cycle any time soon as Einstein said, sticks an stones. Looking at pre WMD history to cite war for the future is a rather silly point. And you should be thinking about satalites. They're going to be the front line in any major new war. As china's new one for clearing "space debris" has hinted towards. We banned space weapons, if a country developed a credible missile sheild then that ban will fail and we will live our lives with nukes and potentially world ending pathogens flying over our heads every 90 miniutes ready to drop uninterceptable death upon us all. (Personally i hope they name any future weapons constellation Damocles). | |||
"A very sad week for all concerned in the USA ( just saw the news for the whole week )...but I always thought that something like today although not right would eventually happen. I read an article in a popular men's mag about 10-12 years ago and it stuck with me since. It was about predicting the future of world. It's main points were - mainland uk would be an isolated state, walled and surrounded by razor wire - government as we know it wouldn't exist - racial tensions and class war would prevail worldwide especially the US which would have a second civil war - the Europe/Middle East border would become a huge no mans land due to the large scale war between the last few remaining European Union members and one United middle eastern army. Mad when I read it. Now, not so much It seems like we are going backwards in the world. Some people only learn when it's too late. It's cyclical. We never know when we're on to a good thing. We're the most self destructive species on the planet I read History. I remember a discussion on it from a lecturer who's family were sent to concentration camps. All the people who die in vain. I fear our generation will be the subject of many a text book. 30-40 years ago the vision of the future was modern advancement, high spec tech. Now it's post apocalyptic and suffering. What a mess we're making Sadly 100% right. Well no its not. Not even remotley close to right is it. You live in a time where climate change now ranks above nuclear war on the doomsday clock. You're further than ever from meeting the apocalypse through armed conflict. Yet technology is advancing at a phenomenal rate we have private companies doing space missions, skylon and reaction engines giving a glimpse of the future of spae flight, a new race for the moon looming too. My company alone is looking to build and launch over 1000 satellites in the next 5 years. And china just recently launched a satellite which is the god damn spaceship capturing satalite feom the James bond film. Are you just looking for an argument? I know you can't help yourself. Sorry but I'm not talking about SATELLITES. I was agreeing that war is cyclical. Anyone can see that from history. That OK with you?
You quoted a post saying that in the past the future was going to be modern and full of high tech stuff. But now its going to be post apocalyptic and said 100% agree.
That doesnt really say war is cyclical.
And war isn't cyclical any more war changed in the 50s we reached a point where the major powers could no longer go to war.
And if they did there certainly wouldn't be another cycle any time soon as Einstein said, sticks an stones.
Looking at pre WMD history to cite war for the future is a rather silly point. And you should be thinking about satalites.
They're going to be the front line in any major new war.
As china's new one for clearing "space debris" has hinted towards.
We banned space weapons, if a country developed a credible missile sheild then that ban will fail and we will live our lives with nukes and potentially world ending pathogens flying over our heads every 90 miniutes ready to drop uninterceptable death upon us all.
(Personally i hope they name any future weapons constellation Damocles).
"Back on topic please rather than silly petty arguments. | |||
"A very sad week for all concerned in the USA ( just saw the news for the whole week )...but I always thought that something like today although not right would eventually happen. I read an article in a popular men's mag about 10-12 years ago and it stuck with me since. It was about predicting the future of world. It's main points were - mainland uk would be an isolated state, walled and surrounded by razor wire - government as we know it wouldn't exist - racial tensions and class war would prevail worldwide especially the US which would have a second civil war - the Europe/Middle East border would become a huge no mans land due to the large scale war between the last few remaining European Union members and one United middle eastern army. Mad when I read it. Now, not so much It seems like we are going backwards in the world. Some people only learn when it's too late. It's cyclical. We never know when we're on to a good thing. We're the most self destructive species on the planet I read History. I remember a discussion on it from a lecturer who's family were sent to concentration camps. All the people who die in vain. I fear our generation will be the subject of many a text book. 30-40 years ago the vision of the future was modern advancement, high spec tech. Now it's post apocalyptic and suffering. What a mess we're making Sadly 100% right. Well no its not. Not even remotley close to right is it. You live in a time where climate change now ranks above nuclear war on the doomsday clock. You're further than ever from meeting the apocalypse through armed conflict. Yet technology is advancing at a phenomenal rate we have private companies doing space missions, skylon and reaction engines giving a glimpse of the future of spae flight, a new race for the moon looming too. My company alone is looking to build and launch over 1000 satellites in the next 5 years. And china just recently launched a satellite which is the god damn spaceship capturing satalite feom the James bond film. Maybe I explained it wrong. The image of the future from the 50's and 60's was of a sleek, happy, clean world. Take the Epcot world of the future exhibit at Disney for example. The outlook was a positive one. One of modern science, healthy living and peace. The media representation of the future was positive. Now take the average Hollywood movie based 40-50-100 years from now. The image projected is usually of an "event" causing a post apocalyptic world. I'm not saying technology isn't advancing (it has done faster over the last 10 years than the previous 100) Just that the projected image of the future is not long as positive as it once was. I'm sorry I didn't explain my point clearer Films are based more on what theme is popular and sells, rather than being a projection of the future. I'm not really sure you use theme as a barometer! If you actually believe I use films as my barometer of current and future events then that's just silly. I was merely stating that popular culture has adapted it's vision of the future from a positive to a negative. Do I really have to spend the rest of this thread arguing over this? 5 guys got shot and killed today. Get back on topic please " That's mostly confirmation bias. Most old films had the future going pretty shitty too. (Most old films that referenced the future anyway) Just they couldnt really do world ending CGI. Thouhh now you mention it is rhe avengers series a possitive ir a negative? | |||
"A very sad week for all concerned in the USA ( just saw the news for the whole week )...but I always thought that something like today although not right would eventually happen. I read an article in a popular men's mag about 10-12 years ago and it stuck with me since. It was about predicting the future of world. It's main points were - mainland uk would be an isolated state, walled and surrounded by razor wire - government as we know it wouldn't exist - racial tensions and class war would prevail worldwide especially the US which would have a second civil war - the Europe/Middle East border would become a huge no mans land due to the large scale war between the last few remaining European Union members and one United middle eastern army. Mad when I read it. Now, not so much It seems like we are going backwards in the world. Some people only learn when it's too late. It's cyclical. We never know when we're on to a good thing. We're the most self destructive species on the planet I read History. I remember a discussion on it from a lecturer who's family were sent to concentration camps. All the people who die in vain. I fear our generation will be the subject of many a text book. 30-40 years ago the vision of the future was modern advancement, high spec tech. Now it's post apocalyptic and suffering. What a mess we're making Sadly 100% right. Well no its not. Not even remotley close to right is it. You live in a time where climate change now ranks above nuclear war on the doomsday clock. You're further than ever from meeting the apocalypse through armed conflict. Yet technology is advancing at a phenomenal rate we have private companies doing space missions, skylon and reaction engines giving a glimpse of the future of spae flight, a new race for the moon looming too. My company alone is looking to build and launch over 1000 satellites in the next 5 years. And china just recently launched a satellite which is the god damn spaceship capturing satalite feom the James bond film. Maybe I explained it wrong. The image of the future from the 50's and 60's was of a sleek, happy, clean world. Take the Epcot world of the future exhibit at Disney for example. The outlook was a positive one. One of modern science, healthy living and peace. The media representation of the future was positive. Now take the average Hollywood movie based 40-50-100 years from now. The image projected is usually of an "event" causing a post apocalyptic world. I'm not saying technology isn't advancing (it has done faster over the last 10 years than the previous 100) Just that the projected image of the future is not long as positive as it once was. I'm sorry I didn't explain my point clearer Films are based more on what theme is popular and sells, rather than being a projection of the future. I'm not really sure you use theme as a barometer! If you actually believe I use films as my barometer of current and future events then that's just silly. I was merely stating that popular culture has adapted it's vision of the future from a positive to a negative. Do I really have to spend the rest of this thread arguing over this? 5 guys got shot and killed today. Get back on topic please That's mostly confirmation bias. Most old films had the future going pretty shitty too. (Most old films that referenced the future anyway) Just they couldnt really do world ending CGI. Thouhh now you mention it is rhe avengers series a possitive ir a negative? " Ok, please, get back on topic. I am not carrying on this conversation as it has zero to do with the thread. I take responisbity for going off track. Please get back on topic as I am far to weary | |||
"A very sad week for all concerned in the USA ( just saw the news for the whole week )...but I always thought that something like today although not right would eventually happen. I read an article in a popular men's mag about 10-12 years ago and it stuck with me since. It was about predicting the future of world. It's main points were - mainland uk would be an isolated state, walled and surrounded by razor wire - government as we know it wouldn't exist - racial tensions and class war would prevail worldwide especially the US which would have a second civil war - the Europe/Middle East border would become a huge no mans land due to the large scale war between the last few remaining European Union members and one United middle eastern army. Mad when I read it. Now, not so much It seems like we are going backwards in the world. Some people only learn when it's too late. It's cyclical. We never know when we're on to a good thing. We're the most self destructive species on the planet I read History. I remember a discussion on it from a lecturer who's family were sent to concentration camps. All the people who die in vain. I fear our generation will be the subject of many a text book. 30-40 years ago the vision of the future was modern advancement, high spec tech. Now it's post apocalyptic and suffering. What a mess we're making Sadly 100% right. Well no its not. Not even remotley close to right is it. You live in a time where climate change now ranks above nuclear war on the doomsday clock. You're further than ever from meeting the apocalypse through armed conflict. Yet technology is advancing at a phenomenal rate we have private companies doing space missions, skylon and reaction engines giving a glimpse of the future of spae flight, a new race for the moon looming too. My company alone is looking to build and launch over 1000 satellites in the next 5 years. And china just recently launched a satellite which is the god damn spaceship capturing satalite feom the James bond film. Are you just looking for an argument? I know you can't help yourself. Sorry but I'm not talking about SATELLITES. I was agreeing that war is cyclical. Anyone can see that from history. That OK with you?
You quoted a post saying that in the past the future was going to be modern and full of high tech stuff. But now its going to be post apocalyptic and said 100% agree.
That doesnt really say war is cyclical.
And war isn't cyclical any more war changed in the 50s we reached a point where the major powers could no longer go to war.
And if they did there certainly wouldn't be another cycle any time soon as Einstein said, sticks an stones.
Looking at pre WMD history to cite war for the future is a rather silly point. And you should be thinking about satalites.
They're going to be the front line in any major new war.
As china's new one for clearing "space debris" has hinted towards.
We banned space weapons, if a country developed a credible missile sheild then that ban will fail and we will live our lives with nukes and potentially world ending pathogens flying over our heads every 90 miniutes ready to drop uninterceptable death upon us all.
(Personally i hope they name any future weapons constellation Damocles).
Back on topic please rather than silly petty arguments. "As I said he can't help himself. Hmm let me think who would I rather make reference to a published professor or a rant on a thread. Difficult choice.
Sorry OP these things unfortunately happen. | |||
"A very sad week for all concerned in the USA ( just saw the news for the whole week )...but I always thought that something like today although not right would eventually happen. I read an article in a popular men's mag about 10-12 years ago and it stuck with me since. It was about predicting the future of world. It's main points were - mainland uk would be an isolated state, walled and surrounded by razor wire - government as we know it wouldn't exist - racial tensions and class war would prevail worldwide especially the US which would have a second civil war - the Europe/Middle East border would become a huge no mans land due to the large scale war between the last few remaining European Union members and one United middle eastern army. Mad when I read it. Now, not so much It seems like we are going backwards in the world. Some people only learn when it's too late. It's cyclical. We never know when we're on to a good thing. We're the most self destructive species on the planet I read History. I remember a discussion on it from a lecturer who's family were sent to concentration camps. All the people who die in vain. I fear our generation will be the subject of many a text book. 30-40 years ago the vision of the future was modern advancement, high spec tech. Now it's post apocalyptic and suffering. What a mess we're making Sadly 100% right. Well no its not. Not even remotley close to right is it. You live in a time where climate change now ranks above nuclear war on the doomsday clock. You're further than ever from meeting the apocalypse through armed conflict. Yet technology is advancing at a phenomenal rate we have private companies doing space missions, skylon and reaction engines giving a glimpse of the future of spae flight, a new race for the moon looming too. My company alone is looking to build and launch over 1000 satellites in the next 5 years. And china just recently launched a satellite which is the god damn spaceship capturing satalite feom the James bond film. Maybe I explained it wrong. The image of the future from the 50's and 60's was of a sleek, happy, clean world. Take the Epcot world of the future exhibit at Disney for example. The outlook was a positive one. One of modern science, healthy living and peace. The media representation of the future was positive. Now take the average Hollywood movie based 40-50-100 years from now. The image projected is usually of an "event" causing a post apocalyptic world. I'm not saying technology isn't advancing (it has done faster over the last 10 years than the previous 100) Just that the projected image of the future is not long as positive as it once was. I'm sorry I didn't explain my point clearer Films are based more on what theme is popular and sells, rather than being a projection of the future. I'm not really sure you use theme as a barometer! If you actually believe I use films as my barometer of current and future events then that's just silly. I was merely stating that popular culture has adapted it's vision of the future from a positive to a negative. Do I really have to spend the rest of this thread arguing over this? 5 guys got shot and killed today. Get back on topic please " I wasn't really arguing, just pointing out of that your point of reference is ridiculous and why it is. If you want to get confrontational (or rather avoid) I'd recommend not saying silly things. | |||
"A very sad week for all concerned in the USA ( just saw the news for the whole week )...but I always thought that something like today although not right would eventually happen. I read an article in a popular men's mag about 10-12 years ago and it stuck with me since. It was about predicting the future of world. It's main points were - mainland uk would be an isolated state, walled and surrounded by razor wire - government as we know it wouldn't exist - racial tensions and class war would prevail worldwide especially the US which would have a second civil war - the Europe/Middle East border would become a huge no mans land due to the large scale war between the last few remaining European Union members and one United middle eastern army. Mad when I read it. Now, not so much It seems like we are going backwards in the world. Some people only learn when it's too late. It's cyclical. We never know when we're on to a good thing. We're the most self destructive species on the planet I read History. I remember a discussion on it from a lecturer who's family were sent to concentration camps. All the people who die in vain. I fear our generation will be the subject of many a text book. 30-40 years ago the vision of the future was modern advancement, high spec tech. Now it's post apocalyptic and suffering. What a mess we're making Sadly 100% right. Well no its not. Not even remotley close to right is it. You live in a time where climate change now ranks above nuclear war on the doomsday clock. You're further than ever from meeting the apocalypse through armed conflict. Yet technology is advancing at a phenomenal rate we have private companies doing space missions, skylon and reaction engines giving a glimpse of the future of spae flight, a new race for the moon looming too. My company alone is looking to build and launch over 1000 satellites in the next 5 years. And china just recently launched a satellite which is the god damn spaceship capturing satalite feom the James bond film. Are you just looking for an argument? I know you can't help yourself. Sorry but I'm not talking about SATELLITES. I was agreeing that war is cyclical. Anyone can see that from history. That OK with you?
You quoted a post saying that in the past the future was going to be modern and full of high tech stuff. But now its going to be post apocalyptic and said 100% agree.
That doesnt really say war is cyclical.
And war isn't cyclical any more war changed in the 50s we reached a point where the major powers could no longer go to war.
And if they did there certainly wouldn't be another cycle any time soon as Einstein said, sticks an stones.
Looking at pre WMD history to cite war for the future is a rather silly point. And you should be thinking about satalites.
They're going to be the front line in any major new war.
As china's new one for clearing "space debris" has hinted towards.
We banned space weapons, if a country developed a credible missile sheild then that ban will fail and we will live our lives with nukes and potentially world ending pathogens flying over our heads every 90 miniutes ready to drop uninterceptable death upon us all.
(Personally i hope they name any future weapons constellation Damocles).
Back on topic please rather than silly petty arguments.
As I said he can't help himself.
Hmm let me think who would I rather make reference to a published professor or a rant on a thread.
Difficult choice.
Sorry OP these things unfortunately happen."They do happen. Luckily for us mass shootings of police officers on our streets don't. It's a horrible event and one worthy of discussion. I understand people have differing opinions but I think it's the most respectful way forward to bring this thread back on topic. | |||
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"A very sad week for all concerned in the USA ( just saw the news for the whole week )...but I always thought that something like today although not right would eventually happen. I read an article in a popular men's mag about 10-12 years ago and it stuck with me since. It was about predicting the future of world. It's main points were - mainland uk would be an isolated state, walled and surrounded by razor wire - government as we know it wouldn't exist - racial tensions and class war would prevail worldwide especially the US which would have a second civil war - the Europe/Middle East border would become a huge no mans land due to the large scale war between the last few remaining European Union members and one United middle eastern army. Mad when I read it. Now, not so much It seems like we are going backwards in the world. Some people only learn when it's too late. It's cyclical. We never know when we're on to a good thing. We're the most self destructive species on the planet I read History. I remember a discussion on it from a lecturer who's family were sent to concentration camps. All the people who die in vain. I fear our generation will be the subject of many a text book. 30-40 years ago the vision of the future was modern advancement, high spec tech. Now it's post apocalyptic and suffering. What a mess we're making Sadly 100% right. Well no its not. Not even remotley close to right is it. You live in a time where climate change now ranks above nuclear war on the doomsday clock. You're further than ever from meeting the apocalypse through armed conflict. Yet technology is advancing at a phenomenal rate we have private companies doing space missions, skylon and reaction engines giving a glimpse of the future of spae flight, a new race for the moon looming too. My company alone is looking to build and launch over 1000 satellites in the next 5 years. And china just recently launched a satellite which is the god damn spaceship capturing satalite feom the James bond film. Are you just looking for an argument? I know you can't help yourself. Sorry but I'm not talking about SATELLITES. I was agreeing that war is cyclical. Anyone can see that from history. That OK with you?
You quoted a post saying that in the past the future was going to be modern and full of high tech stuff. But now its going to be post apocalyptic and said 100% agree.
That doesnt really say war is cyclical.
And war isn't cyclical any more war changed in the 50s we reached a point where the major powers could no longer go to war.
And if they did there certainly wouldn't be another cycle any time soon as Einstein said, sticks an stones.
Looking at pre WMD history to cite war for the future is a rather silly point. And you should be thinking about satalites.
They're going to be the front line in any major new war.
As china's new one for clearing "space debris" has hinted towards.
We banned space weapons, if a country developed a credible missile sheild then that ban will fail and we will live our lives with nukes and potentially world ending pathogens flying over our heads every 90 miniutes ready to drop uninterceptable death upon us all.
(Personally i hope they name any future weapons constellation Damocles).
Back on topic please rather than silly petty arguments.
As I said he can't help himself.
Hmm let me think who would I rather make reference to a published professor or a rant on a thread.
Difficult choice.
Sorry OP these things unfortunately happen.
They do happen. Luckily for us mass shootings of police officers on our streets don't. It's a horrible event and one worthy of discussion. I understand people have differing opinions but I think it's the most respectful way forward to bring this thread back on topic. "Totally agree, apologies again | |||
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"And yet again more protests and lives taken "I struggle with the idea of killing. It's a difficult position to be in when that seems either A) acceptable B) the only option Both are as bad as each other and very sad | |||
"People get shot. Wives lose husbands, sons and daughters lose fathers. What does FAB do. Get petty. Please can we get back on topic. How many times does it need saying. If you think smart comments help then go over to a wonderfully intellectual and deep "snog, fuck, avoid" thread. " Snog  | |||
"It seems that some people have a problem the law and think there above it. Now I know no one saw what happened before the videos were turned on but yes you are right, it looks like some police thought they were above the law this week." I didnt mean the police | |||
"It seems that some people have a problem the law and think there above it. Now I know no one saw what happened before the videos were turned on but yes you are right, it looks like some police thought they were above the law this week. I didnt mean the police "I guessed as much and you're correct in that nobody is above the law in a civilised society. But recently the police have acted outside the law with the way they've acted. | |||
"It seems that some people have a problem the law and think there above it. Now I know no one saw what happened before the videos were turned on but yes you are right, it looks like some police thought they were above the law this week. I didnt mean the police "I guessed you didn't. | |||
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"Obama is on sky news live right now" In work can someone bullet point the gist? | |||
"Obama is on sky news live right now In work can someone bullet point the gist? "Probably not the best choice of words considering ...  | |||
"Obama is on sky news live right now In work can someone bullet point the gist?
Probably not the best choice of words considering ... "Hilarious | |||
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"I really don't think the main problem is racism, it's poverty. I honestly can't belive that vast swathes of us law enforcement are employing KKK members or is in someway got a dark secret plan to kill black people. . I think they've began to reap their own decades of incompetence and malaise" If it was only that simple. | |||
"I really don't think the main problem is racism, it's poverty. I honestly can't belive that vast swathes of us law enforcement are employing KKK members or is in someway got a dark secret plan to kill black people. . I think they've began to reap their own decades of incompetence and malaise If it was only that simple." . I think we're in danger over complicating a simplish problem!. . I can't for one minute belive huge amounts of US law enforcement agencies have some secret sect of the KKK, if there only killing black people for being black, then how do I explain the huge numbers of white people they also kill?. How do I explain the black police officers who've killed black people or white people?. America has got more gun violence through the decades and "some" police officers are rising to the challenge in the wrong way although this could be through many reasons, like genuinely being worried for their own safety(fear) racial discrimination (maybe they've done to many years in black ghettos), American police and now practically militarised and that also gives them a false start(people who put condom's on intend to fuck, if you know what I mean). . . I'm afraid if you allow unlimited access to weapons and then allow huge poverty stricken ghettos to come about, your going to get what you've got?. . The question is, has it gone to far in the US to be easily changed? | |||
"I really don't think the main problem is racism, it's poverty. I honestly can't belive that vast swathes of us law enforcement are employing KKK members or is in someway got a dark secret plan to kill black people. . I think they've began to reap their own decades of incompetence and malaise" Until you look at the sentences handed out for the same crimes, even from the same judges in many cases, and see who is more likely to be sentenced and who is more likely to get off with the same crimes. | |||
"I really don't think the main problem is racism, it's poverty. I honestly can't belive that vast swathes of us law enforcement are employing KKK members or is in someway got a dark secret plan to kill black people. . I think they've began to reap their own decades of incompetence and malaise If it was only that simple.. I think we're in danger over complicating a simplish problem!. . I can't for one minute belive huge amounts of US law enforcement agencies have some secret sect of the KKK, if there only killing black people for being black, then how do I explain the huge numbers of white people they also kill?. How do I explain the black police officers who've killed black people or white people?. America has got more gun violence through the decades and "some" police officers are rising to the challenge in the wrong way although this could be through many reasons, like genuinely being worried for their own safety(fear) racial discrimination (maybe they've done to many years in black ghettos), American police and now practically militarised and that also gives them a false start(people who put condom's on intend to fuck, if you know what I mean). . . I'm afraid if you allow unlimited access to weapons and then allow huge poverty stricken ghettos to come about, your going to get what you've got?. . The question is, has it gone to far in the US to be easily changed?" I think it's too far gone. It's too embedded in society. The gun control issue will not be solved. The problem is there's millions of people with guns, if you tell them they can't have them and they don't like it, they still have the guns to defend their right to have guns. You arm the population it's impossible to disarm them and control it | |||
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"I really don't think the main problem is racism, it's poverty. I honestly can't belive that vast swathes of us law enforcement are employing KKK members or is in someway got a dark secret plan to kill black people. . I think they've began to reap their own decades of incompetence and malaise If it was only that simple.. I think we're in danger over complicating a simplish problem!. . I can't for one minute belive huge amounts of US law enforcement agencies have some secret sect of the KKK, if there only killing black people for being black, then how do I explain the huge numbers of white people they also kill?. How do I explain the black police officers who've killed black people or white people?. America has got more gun violence through the decades and "some" police officers are rising to the challenge in the wrong way although this could be through many reasons, like genuinely being worried for their own safety(fear) racial discrimination (maybe they've done to many years in black ghettos), American police and now practically militarised and that also gives them a false start(people who put condom's on intend to fuck, if you know what I mean). . . I'm afraid if you allow unlimited access to weapons and then allow huge poverty stricken ghettos to come about, your going to get what you've got?. . The question is, has it gone to far in the US to be easily changed? I think it's too far gone. It's too embedded in society. The gun control issue will not be solved. The problem is there's millions of people with guns, if you tell them they can't have them and they don't like it, they still have the guns to defend their right to have guns. You arm the population it's impossible to disarm them and control it" and people won't want to disarm if they feel threatened by the police | |||
"I don't think it's because they're getting their own back necessarily, more their is an ingrained racism allowed to happen within the justice system. From the judges i mentioned going all the way down to the police." . Ingrained racism in what way?. I can't follow what your meaning, are you saying the judges are all racists or they've been ingrained by dealing with black gang violence culture that they now see that as black culture?. I'm not black so I can't identify with it but I am off Irish stock and we got the usual, no black's no Irish no dogs bigotry.. Although I'm a dog owner as well! | |||
"I don't think it's because they're getting their own back necessarily, more their is an ingrained racism allowed to happen within the justice system. From the judges i mentioned going all the way down to the police.. Ingrained racism in what way?. I can't follow what your meaning, are you saying the judges are all racists or they've been ingrained by dealing with black gang violence culture that they now see that as black culture?. I'm not black so I can't identify with it but I am off Irish stock and we got the usual, no black's no Irish no dogs bigotry.. Although I'm a dog owner as well! " I can't speak for the poster you're quoting, but there is an ingrained rasicm in the justice system in the US. It has been documented countless times...black people are more likely to be convicted of crimes, black people are more likely to get harsher criminal sentences from juries even when the crime committed is the same as a white person in similar circumstances. Police officers around the US are noted for their racism (and this isn't just white on black racism, though that is a large part of it). For example, I was working in a legal case once, and one of the pieces of evidence we used to show racism in the NYPD was a well known, but private, blog that officers use. It is riddled with highly racist posts. The blog name is called "Thee Rant" if you want to look it up. There has been a war brewing between black communities and police forces around America. Someone above likened it to gang violence on both sides, and I think that is a sadly apropos statement. | |||
"I really don't think the main problem is racism, it's poverty. I honestly can't belive that vast swathes of us law enforcement are employing KKK members or is in someway got a dark secret plan to kill black people. . I think they've began to reap their own decades of incompetence and malaise If it was only that simple.. I think we're in danger over complicating a simplish problem!. . I can't for one minute belive huge amounts of US law enforcement agencies have some secret sect of the KKK, if there only killing black people for being black, then how do I explain the huge numbers of white people they also kill?. How do I explain the black police officers who've killed black people or white people?. America has got more gun violence through the decades and "some" police officers are rising to the challenge in the wrong way although this could be through many reasons, like genuinely being worried for their own safety(fear) racial discrimination (maybe they've done to many years in black ghettos), American police and now practically militarised and that also gives them a false start(people who put condom's on intend to fuck, if you know what I mean). . . I'm afraid if you allow unlimited access to weapons and then allow huge poverty stricken ghettos to come about, your going to get what you've got?. . The question is, has it gone to far in the US to be easily changed? I think it's too far gone. It's too embedded in society. The gun control issue will not be solved. The problem is there's millions of people with guns, if you tell them they can't have them and they don't like it, they still have the guns to defend their right to have guns. You arm the population it's impossible to disarm them and control it and people won't want to disarm if they feel threatened by the police " True, I agree 100%. Their reliance on guns has caused a society deep issue at, in my opinion, can't be fixed. It's gone too far to claw back. I know Australia did it, but the US see guns as part of their culture far more than Australia did | |||
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"Not good it happened. Are we really surprised it happen tho? USA is a gun crazed society that allows weapons. " I think heat of the moment events are always expected from the US but it's the calculated and pre planned ones that always do shock me. I hope they continue to shock me as well as the thought of them becoming normal is abhorrent to me | |||
"I don't think it's because they're getting their own back necessarily, more their is an ingrained racism allowed to happen within the justice system. From the judges i mentioned going all the way down to the police.. Ingrained racism in what way?. I can't follow what your meaning, are you saying the judges are all racists or they've been ingrained by dealing with black gang violence culture that they now see that as black culture?. I'm not black so I can't identify with it but I am off Irish stock and we got the usual, no black's no Irish no dogs bigotry.. Although I'm a dog owner as well! I can't speak for the poster you're quoting, but there is an ingrained rasicm in the justice system in the US. It has been documented countless times...black people are more likely to be convicted of crimes, black people are more likely to get harsher criminal sentences from juries even when the crime committed is the same as a white person in similar circumstances. Police officers around the US are noted for their racism (and this isn't just white on black racism, though that is a large part of it). For example, I was working in a legal case once, and one of the pieces of evidence we used to show racism in the NYPD was a well known, but private, blog that officers use. It is riddled with highly racist posts. The blog name is called "Thee Rant" if you want to look it up. There has been a war brewing between black communities and police forces around America. Someone above likened it to gang violence on both sides, and I think that is a sadly apropos statement. " . What all the states? Not just southern ones!. Did they join as racists or get turned into them?. I don't doubt for a minute the us justice system is flawed, although I'd mostly say it's been flawed by capitalism than racism!. | |||
"I don't think it's because they're getting their own back necessarily, more their is an ingrained racism allowed to happen within the justice system. From the judges i mentioned going all the way down to the police.. Ingrained racism in what way?. I can't follow what your meaning, are you saying the judges are all racists or they've been ingrained by dealing with black gang violence culture that they now see that as black culture?. I'm not black so I can't identify with it but I am off Irish stock and we got the usual, no black's no Irish no dogs bigotry.. Although I'm a dog owner as well! " Not sure as i don't think like them but i do think, as a society, there is racism there that allows the justice system to do this stuff. The media helps to support it also. That people think black people committing a crime is worse than white people doing the same thing. I've only recently found out that males are more likely to be sent to prison because we only studied males when studying pathological psychology therefore men were considered to be mentally disordered (or 'evil') and women were just not studied at all (possibly because no-one gave a shit about women, idk), but i found this interesting because only studying men means we know more about male psychology but also that we apply the findings of those studies to men only. | |||
"I don't think it's because they're getting their own back necessarily, more their is an ingrained racism allowed to happen within the justice system. From the judges i mentioned going all the way down to the police.. Ingrained racism in what way?. I can't follow what your meaning, are you saying the judges are all racists or they've been ingrained by dealing with black gang violence culture that they now see that as black culture?. I'm not black so I can't identify with it but I am off Irish stock and we got the usual, no black's no Irish no dogs bigotry.. Although I'm a dog owner as well! I can't speak for the poster you're quoting, but there is an ingrained rasicm in the justice system in the US. It has been documented countless times...black people are more likely to be convicted of crimes, black people are more likely to get harsher criminal sentences from juries even when the crime committed is the same as a white person in similar circumstances. Police officers around the US are noted for their racism (and this isn't just white on black racism, though that is a large part of it). For example, I was working in a legal case once, and one of the pieces of evidence we used to show racism in the NYPD was a well known, but private, blog that officers use. It is riddled with highly racist posts. The blog name is called "Thee Rant" if you want to look it up. There has been a war brewing between black communities and police forces around America. Someone above likened it to gang violence on both sides, and I think that is a sadly apropos statement. . What all the states? Not just southern ones!. Did they join as racists or get turned into them?. I don't doubt for a minute the us justice system is flawed, although I'd mostly say it's been flawed by capitalism than racism!. " Yeah, all the states. The NYPD and LAPD are some of the worst offenders. I think people both joined as racists and became more so. The influence of group mentality, us vs. them, is powerful. Racism is as illness in the justice system - both law enforcement and the courts. Sentencing tends to be harsher for historically black crimes (crimes historically committed more by black people), and juries have been found to give more and harsher convictions to black defendants. This is present in black on black crime compared to white on white crime, as well as amplified in black on white crime. (I speak only for the US, I don't know enough about the UK to comment on this issue.) Take a look at The Sentencing Project. They have tons of data on this. Their report to the United Nations Human Rights Committee regarding racial disparities in the United States Criminal Justice System from 2013 is informative. | |||
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"I don't think it's because they're getting their own back necessarily, more their is an ingrained racism allowed to happen within the justice system. From the judges i mentioned going all the way down to the police.. Ingrained racism in what way?. I can't follow what your meaning, are you saying the judges are all racists or they've been ingrained by dealing with black gang violence culture that they now see that as black culture?. I'm not black so I can't identify with it but I am off Irish stock and we got the usual, no black's no Irish no dogs bigotry.. Although I'm a dog owner as well! I can't speak for the poster you're quoting, but there is an ingrained rasicm in the justice system in the US. It has been documented countless times...black people are more likely to be convicted of crimes, black people are more likely to get harsher criminal sentences from juries even when the crime committed is the same as a white person in similar circumstances. Police officers around the US are noted for their racism (and this isn't just white on black racism, though that is a large part of it). For example, I was working in a legal case once, and one of the pieces of evidence we used to show racism in the NYPD was a well known, but private, blog that officers use. It is riddled with highly racist posts. The blog name is called "Thee Rant" if you want to look it up. There has been a war brewing between black communities and police forces around America. Someone above likened it to gang violence on both sides, and I think that is a sadly apropos statement. . What all the states? Not just southern ones!. Did they join as racists or get turned into them?. I don't doubt for a minute the us justice system is flawed, although I'd mostly say it's been flawed by capitalism than racism!. Yeah, all the states. The NYPD and LAPD are some of the worst offenders. I think people both joined as racists and became more so. The influence of group mentality, us vs. them, is powerful. Racism is as illness in the justice system - both law enforcement and the courts. Sentencing tends to be harsher for historically black crimes (crimes historically committed more by black people), and juries have been found to give more and harsher convictions to black defendants. This is present in black on black crime compared to white on white crime, as well as amplified in black on white crime. (I speak only for the US, I don't know enough about the UK to comment on this issue.) Take a look at The Sentencing Project. They have tons of data on this. Their report to the United Nations Human Rights Committee regarding racial disparities in the United States Criminal Justice System from 2013 is informative." i've had the distinct honour and pleasure of being the support act for american musical icons Henry Rollins and M.D.C ..... they have a very informed tilt on the situation as regards to how the american police _iew ethnic groups in their society .... M.D.C have this song which is worth taking note of as all of the lyrics in the video are of real life incidents that have been happening for decades .... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ng7lBjovgMI | |||
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"I don't think it's because they're getting their own back necessarily, more their is an ingrained racism allowed to happen within the justice system. From the judges i mentioned going all the way down to the police.. Ingrained racism in what way?. I can't follow what your meaning, are you saying the judges are all racists or they've been ingrained by dealing with black gang violence culture that they now see that as black culture?. I'm not black so I can't identify with it but I am off Irish stock and we got the usual, no black's no Irish no dogs bigotry.. Although I'm a dog owner as well! I can't speak for the poster you're quoting, but there is an ingrained rasicm in the justice system in the US. It has been documented countless times...black people are more likely to be convicted of crimes, black people are more likely to get harsher criminal sentences from juries even when the crime committed is the same as a white person in similar circumstances. Police officers around the US are noted for their racism (and this isn't just white on black racism, though that is a large part of it). For example, I was working in a legal case once, and one of the pieces of evidence we used to show racism in the NYPD was a well known, but private, blog that officers use. It is riddled with highly racist posts. The blog name is called "Thee Rant" if you want to look it up. There has been a war brewing between black communities and police forces around America. Someone above likened it to gang violence on both sides, and I think that is a sadly apropos statement. . What all the states? Not just southern ones!. Did they join as racists or get turned into them?. I don't doubt for a minute the us justice system is flawed, although I'd mostly say it's been flawed by capitalism than racism!. Yeah, all the states. The NYPD and LAPD are some of the worst offenders. I think people both joined as racists and became more so. The influence of group mentality, us vs. them, is powerful. Racism is as illness in the justice system - both law enforcement and the courts. Sentencing tends to be harsher for historically black crimes (crimes historically committed more by black people), and juries have been found to give more and harsher convictions to black defendants. This is present in black on black crime compared to white on white crime, as well as amplified in black on white crime. (I speak only for the US, I don't know enough about the UK to comment on this issue.) Take a look at The Sentencing Project. They have tons of data on this. Their report to the United Nations Human Rights Committee regarding racial disparities in the United States Criminal Justice System from 2013 is informative." . Thanks I will take a look. I find this quite shocking to be honest.... I never realised a massive proportion of US citizens were rabidly racist, I killing a guy in cold blood because he's black is beyond... Average racism? | |||
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"I did find this by The Guardian newspaper runs its own database,The Counted, which tracked US killings by police and other law enforcement agencies in 2015, and counted 1140 killed, with rates per million of 2.92 for "white" people, 7.2 for "black", and 3.5 for "hispanic/latino", 1.34 for "Asian/Pacific Islander", and 3.4 for "Native American". The database can be _iewed by state, gender (1086 male, 53 female, 1 nonconforming) , race/ethnicity, age, classification (e.g., "gunshot"), and whether the person killed was armed (853 armed, 224 unarmed)" On of The Guardian reports puts 18 -24 year old black Americans at 7.2, 6.6 for Native Americans in the same age group. The next two age groups were for Native Americans. So 3 of the top 4 age groups the highest death rates were for Native Americans. | |||
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"I did find this by The Guardian newspaper runs its own database,The Counted, which tracked US killings by police and other law enforcement agencies in 2015, and counted 1140 killed, with rates per million of 2.92 for "white" people, 7.2 for "black", and 3.5 for "hispanic/latino", 1.34 for "Asian/Pacific Islander", and 3.4 for "Native American". The database can be _iewed by state, gender (1086 male, 53 female, 1 nonconforming) , race/ethnicity, age, classification (e.g., "gunshot"), and whether the person killed was armed (853 armed, 224 unarmed) On of The Guardian reports puts 18 -24 year old black Americans at 7.2, 6.6 for Native Americans in the same age group. The next two age groups were for Native Americans. So 3 of the top 4 age groups the highest death rates were for Native Americans. " . Native Americans also have an extremely high alcoholism rate! | |||
"I find this quite shocking to be honest.... I never realised a massive proportion of US citizens were rabidly racist, I killing a guy in cold blood because he's black is beyond... Average racism?" I also think an African American gunning down 11 police officers is just as shocking, infact more shocking as he is gunning down Law enforcement. | |||
"I find this quite shocking to be honest.... I never realised a massive proportion of US citizens were rabidly racist, I killing a guy in cold blood because he's black is beyond... Average racism? I also think an African American gunning down 11 police officers is just as shocking, infact more shocking as he is gunning down Law enforcement." . It's just diametrically opposed thinking!.... But crucially the same | |||
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"You need to factor in that 52% of police officers killed, are killed by black people. That means that less than 13% of the population are responsible for 52% of police deaths. In reality this means that a police officer dealing with a black guy is on edge, the black guy is on edge due to the higher death rate of black people in confrontation with police. This causes tension which increases the likelihood of violence. There are other factors to be taken into account like mental health issues and drug use. There are further complications when you factor in finances. The average white families income is approximately $53,000 compared with $35,000 for a black family. No doubt there are huge failings in the American justice system, however it is not the one way street that people are implying. It often goes unreported that for every black person killed by police approximately 40 black people are killed by black people. This is probably linked to poverty and other factors... At the end of the day most black, white , Hispanic and every other race just want to live in peace and go home to their families... Great changes are needed but until both sides face the fact that change is need on their side as well as the other, nothing will change..." Messages like this just underline the need for Black Lives Matter. Instead of accepting that there is a racial issue, you try to demonise black people bringing in facts and statistics about black on black crime. When a white man kills another white man it is simply a crime. Race is not brought into it. At the end of the day, black people not just men are being killed by those who are there to "protect them". In most of these prolific cases there was no need for these innocent people to be murdered by law enforcement. I read somewhere that it was not that this police brutality was a recent phenomenon. It's just that people now record what's really going on. And what do you mean by mental health issues and drug use? So the reason those men were shot was because they were probably insane or on drugs? Lol Anyway I pray for both the victims of police brutality and the innocent police officers that were killed! | |||
" Messages like this just underline the need for Black Lives Matter. Instead of accepting that there is a racial issue, you try to demonise black people bringing in facts and statistics about black on black crime. When a white man kills another white man it is simply a crime. Race is not brought into it. At the end of the day, black people not just men are being killed by those who are there to "protect them". In most of these prolific cases there was no need for these innocent people to be murdered by law enforcement. I read somewhere that it was not that this police brutality was a recent phenomenon. It's just that people now record what's really going on. And what do you mean by mental health issues and drug use? So the reason those men were shot was because they were probably insane or on drugs? Lol Anyway I pray for both the victims of police brutality and the innocent police officers that were killed!" amen to this..... was having a conversation in the pub about this tonight... and said to my friends this.... white man goes mental.. kills 9 black people in church... goes on to say they hate black people, find loads of evidence... and the media say... has to be mental issues... black guy goes mental... kill 5 police officers.... goes on to say they hate white people, find loads of evidence.... has mental issues been brought up even once today....not a sniff... if you have ever been on the end of a stop and search here... you can gain a little understanding.... if you have been on the end of multiple stop and searches....trust me.. not nice... where the 2nd black guy died on wednesday night the govenor of minnesota was honest enough to say if it had been a white person in that situation... they would likely still be alive..... there are issues with in comes to interactions and innocent people dying... | |||
"You need to factor in that 52% of police officers killed, are killed by black people. That means that less than 13% of the population are responsible for 52% of police deaths. In reality this means that a police officer dealing with a black guy is on edge, the black guy is on edge due to the higher death rate of black people in confrontation with police. This causes tension which increases the likelihood of violence. There are other factors to be taken into account like mental health issues and drug use. There are further complications when you factor in finances. The average white families income is approximately $53,000 compared with $35,000 for a black family. No doubt there are huge failings in the American justice system, however it is not the one way street that people are implying. It often goes unreported that for every black person killed by police approximately 40 black people are killed by black people. This is probably linked to poverty and other factors... At the end of the day most black, white , Hispanic and every other race just want to live in peace and go home to their families... Great changes are needed but until both sides face the fact that change is need on their side as well as the other, nothing will change... Messages like this just underline the need for Black Lives Matter. Instead of accepting that there is a racial issue, you try to demonise black people bringing in facts and statistics about black on black crime. When a white man kills another white man it is simply a crime. Race is not brought into it. At the end of the day, black people not just men are being killed by those who are there to "protect them". In most of these prolific cases there was no need for these innocent people to be murdered by law enforcement. I read somewhere that it was not that this police brutality was a recent phenomenon. It's just that people now record what's really going on. And what do you mean by mental health issues and drug use? So the reason those men were shot was because they were probably insane or on drugs? Lol Anyway I pray for both the victims of police brutality and the innocent police officers that were killed!" I am sorry that you thought I was demonising black people, that was not my intention at all. I will start with the drugs and mental health remarks. As a black person with mental health issues, you are more likely to get shot by police than a white person. I don't know why this is. A percentage of the population has mental health issues, a percentage of them are going to be violent and also a percentage of those are going to be suicidal and death by cop is one option open to them. As I stated above the average income for a black family is $35k compared to $53k for a white family. We know that where there is poverty there is often a drugs problem. Drugs can cause serious mental health issues. Black lives do matter, in fact all lives matter. What I was trying to point out was that there is a distrust between the police and the black community. Until this circle is broken nothing will change. I agree and stated that there is a serious problem in the American justice system, in fact the whole American system as black families are significantly poorer than white families. However I do think that this is unfairly laid at the feet of police. Every crime should be judged on the crime and every shooting should be judged on the facts. The colour of the people should not come into it, unless it's a hate crime. An unlawful shooting is an unlawful shooting regardless... I hope I have explained myself better. There was no intention of offending anyone. | |||
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"You need to factor in that 52% of police officers killed, are killed by black people. That means that less than 13% of the population are responsible for 52% of police deaths. In reality this means that a police officer dealing with a black guy is on edge, the black guy is on edge due to the higher death rate of black people in confrontation with police. This causes tension which increases the likelihood of violence. There are other factors to be taken into account like mental health issues and drug use. There are further complications when you factor in finances. The average white families income is approximately $53,000 compared with $35,000 for a black family. No doubt there are huge failings in the American justice system, however it is not the one way street that people are implying. It often goes unreported that for every black person killed by police approximately 40 black people are killed by black people. This is probably linked to poverty and other factors... At the end of the day most black, white , Hispanic and every other race just want to live in peace and go home to their families... Great changes are needed but until both sides face the fact that change is need on their side as well as the other, nothing will change... Messages like this just underline the need for Black Lives Matter. Instead of accepting that there is a racial issue, you try to demonise black people bringing in facts and statistics " Damn those facts!!!! But interestingly stats show that most white victims are killed by white people and nearly all black victims are killed by black people. Seems the biggest risk is usualy your own race, but then most killings are somine known to the victim and so its not surprising that its aplit along racial grounds. | |||
"You'll notice being an Asian female is least likely to be killed by the police!" Id wager if you checked youd find asian females are the least likley to be involved in crime and so the least likley to be in contact with the police | |||
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Again inevitable. No westerners killed, not a holiday hot spot for westerners, ergo, to the media, who gives a fuck! "Maybe because it happens so much and people usually care more about their own don't they? Same as you care more about your family or friends more than anyone elses its human nature. | |||
" Messages like this just underline the need for Black Lives Matter. Instead of accepting that there is a racial issue, you try to demonise black people bringing in facts and statistics about black on black crime. When a white man kills another white man it is simply a crime. Race is not brought into it. At the end of the day, black people not just men are being killed by those who are there to "protect them". In most of these prolific cases there was no need for these innocent people to be murdered by law enforcement. I read somewhere that it was not that this police brutality was a recent phenomenon. It's just that people now record what's really going on. And what do you mean by mental health issues and drug use? So the reason those men were shot was because they were probably insane or on drugs? Lol Anyway I pray for both the victims of police brutality and the innocent police officers that were killed! amen to this..... was having a conversation in the pub about this tonight... and said to my friends this.... white man goes mental.. kills 9 black people in church... goes on to say they hate black people, find loads of evidence... and the media say... has to be mental issues... black guy goes mental... kill 5 police officers.... goes on to say they hate white people, find loads of evidence.... has mental issues been brought up even once today....not a sniff... if you have ever been on the end of a stop and search here... you can gain a little understanding.... if you have been on the end of multiple stop and searches....trust me.. not nice... where the 2nd black guy died on wednesday night the govenor of minnesota was honest enough to say if it had been a white person in that situation... they would likely still be alive..... there are issues with in comes to interactions and innocent people dying... " Do you have a link for the outcome of the investigation reports please, I would like to read | |||
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"4 police officers killed and 11 more shot at a Black Lives Matters protest in Dallas. Crazy world we live in "Unfortunately and its a sad indictment of America but in a couple of weeks it will almost be forgotten about. Apparently 150 black people shot dead by US Police last year, frightening. | |||
"Too many people lack self control, don't know how to behave its because their parents and teachers didn't punish them when they were naughty. Too many parents have spoilt their kids." Unfortunately, I think it is a bit more complicated than that... As a rule the black guys we have met at clubs and though work have been the politest and most respectful... | |||
"4 police officers killed and 11 more shot at a Black Lives Matters protest in Dallas. Crazy world we live in
Unfortunately and its a sad indictment of America but in a couple of weeks it will almost be forgotten about. Apparently 150 black people shot dead by US Police last year, frightening."do you have the investigation final reports? what was the outcome? how many were carrying a firearm themselves? what was the nature of the shooting? were they instructed by police and did they obey instruction? please supply the links to each report | |||
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"What about ELM every live matters not just black" sounds fair to me | |||
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"You need to factor in that 52% of police officers killed, are killed by black people. That means that less than 13% of the population are responsible for 52% of police deaths. In reality this means that a police officer dealing with a black guy is on edge, the black guy is on edge due to the higher death rate of black people in confrontation with police. This causes tension which increases the likelihood of violence. There are other factors to be taken into account like mental health issues and drug use. There are further complications when you factor in finances. The average white families income is approximately $53,000 compared with $35,000 for a black family. No doubt there are huge failings in the American justice system, however it is not the one way street that people are implying. It often goes unreported that for every black person killed by police approximately 40 black people are killed by black people. This is probably linked to poverty and other factors... At the end of the day most black, white , Hispanic and every other race just want to live in peace and go home to their families... Great changes are needed but until both sides face the fact that change is need on their side as well as the other, nothing will change... Messages like this just underline the need for Black Lives Matter. Instead of accepting that there is a racial issue, you try to demonise black people bringing in facts and statistics about black on black crime. When a white man kills another white man it is simply a crime. Race is not brought into it. At the end of the day, black people not just men are being killed by those who are there to "protect them". In most of these prolific cases there was no need for these innocent people to be murdered by law enforcement. I read somewhere that it was not that this police brutality was a recent phenomenon. It's just that people now record what's really going on. And what do you mean by mental health issues and drug use? So the reason those men were shot was because they were probably insane or on drugs? Lol Anyway I pray for both the victims of police brutality and the innocent police officers that were killed!" Spot on!
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" Messages like this just underline the need for Black Lives Matter. Instead of accepting that there is a racial issue, you try to demonise black people bringing in facts and statistics about black on black crime. When a white man kills another white man it is simply a crime. Race is not brought into it. At the end of the day, black people not just men are being killed by those who are there to "protect them". In most of these prolific cases there was no need for these innocent people to be murdered by law enforcement. I read somewhere that it was not that this police brutality was a recent phenomenon. It's just that people now record what's really going on. And what do you mean by mental health issues and drug use? So the reason those men were shot was because they were probably insane or on drugs? Lol Anyway I pray for both the victims of police brutality and the innocent police officers that were killed! amen to this..... was having a conversation in the pub about this tonight... and said to my friends this.... white man goes mental.. kills 9 black people in church... goes on to say they hate black people, find loads of evidence... and the media say... has to be mental issues... black guy goes mental... kill 5 police officers.... goes on to say they hate white people, find loads of evidence.... has mental issues been brought up even once today....not a sniff... if you have ever been on the end of a stop and search here... you can gain a little understanding.... if you have been on the end of multiple stop and searches....trust me.. not nice... where the 2nd black guy died on wednesday night the govenor of minnesota was honest enough to say if it had been a white person in that situation... they would likely still be alive..... there are issues with in comes to interactions and innocent people dying... " | |||
"It's terrible. But odd that no one seems to know about the two suicide bombings in the Middle East this week
Again inevitable. No westerners killed, not a holiday hot spot for westerners, ergo, to the media, who gives a fuck!
Maybe because it happens so much and people usually care more about their own don't they? Same as you care more about your family or friends more than anyone elses its human nature."And mass shootings in America is such a rare occurrence!
By "their own" do you mean you should only care if people killed have the same skin colour as you? | |||
"4 police officers killed and 11 more shot at a Black Lives Matters protest in Dallas. Crazy world we live in
Unfortunately and its a sad indictment of America but in a couple of weeks it will almost be forgotten about. Apparently 150 black people shot dead by US Police last year, frightening.
do you have the investigation final reports? what was the outcome?
how many were carrying a firearm themselves?
what was the nature of the shooting? were they instructed by police and did they obey instruction?
please supply the links to each report "Who are you a fucking District Attorney? | |||
"It's terrible. But odd that no one seems to know about the two suicide bombings in the Middle East this week
Again inevitable. No westerners killed, not a holiday hot spot for westerners, ergo, to the media, who gives a fuck!
Maybe because it happens so much and people usually care more about their own don't they? Same as you care more about your family or friends more than anyone elses its human nature.
And mass shootings in America is such a rare occurrence!
By "their own" do you mean you should only care if people killed have the same skin colour as you?"No theyre incredibly common, one a day on average. Notice how they arent in the news every single day though? But 10 police being shot at a demonstration is pretty rare and hence you hear about it. Just like the Medina bombing was on the news because its very unusual for SA to be targeted | |||
"Would you all feel the same if one of the police officers were your Father, Husband, Son or Brother All they did was went to work that day like any other decent human being. ...." Same could be said for the unarmed black guys. Sitting in the car with your child and partner, shot dead with your seat belt still on. | |||
"Would you all feel the same if one of the police officers were your Father, Husband, Son or Brother All they did was went to work that day like any other decent human being. .... Same could be said for the unarmed black guys. Sitting in the car with your child and partner, shot dead with your seat belt still on." | |||
"4 police officers killed and 11 more shot at a Black Lives Matters protest in Dallas. Crazy world we live in
Unfortunately and its a sad indictment of America but in a couple of weeks it will almost be forgotten about. Apparently 150 black people shot dead by US Police last year, frightening.
do you have the investigation final reports? what was the outcome?
how many were carrying a firearm themselves?
what was the nature of the shooting? were they instructed by police and did they obey instruction?
please supply the links to each report
Who are you a fucking District Attorney? "More agent provacature I'd say. | |||
"It's terrible. But odd that no one seems to know about the two suicide bombings in the Middle East this week
Again inevitable. No westerners killed, not a holiday hot spot for westerners, ergo, to the media, who gives a fuck!
Maybe because it happens so much and people usually care more about their own don't they? Same as you care more about your family or friends more than anyone elses its human nature.
And mass shootings in America is such a rare occurrence!
By "their own" do you mean you should only care if people killed have the same skin colour as you?
No theyre incredibly common, one a day on average.
Notice how they arent in the news every single day though?
But 10 police being shot at a demonstration is pretty rare and hence you hear about it.
Just like the Medina bombing was on the news because its very unusual for SA to be targeted "That's my point. The poster I was responding to implied bombings in Bangladesh weren't reported because they happened all the time and they weren't "her own". | |||
"4 police officers killed and 11 more shot at a Black Lives Matters protest in Dallas. Crazy world we live in
Unfortunately and its a sad indictment of America but in a couple of weeks it will almost be forgotten about. Apparently 150 black people shot dead by US Police last year, frightening.
do you have the investigation final reports? what was the outcome?
how many were carrying a firearm themselves?
what was the nature of the shooting? were they instructed by police and did they obey instruction?
please supply the links to each report
Who are you a fucking District Attorney?
More agent provacature I'd say."Haha glad someone else noticed . About as subtle as a brick | |||
"White people being killed by police doesn't make the news. Doesn't make killing white people right either White people kill and get killed... Then the law prosecutes. Case closed. It hits the news because when a black person gets killed it always smells fishy. No prosecution. Everyday black on black crime isn't televised either. Black guy kills white guy.. He gets 150 years... Think about your comment. ... " How about black officer Trevor Austin who had no charges brought against him for shooting a white 18 year old , naked male student ? Think about your comment.... | |||
"It's terrible. But odd that no one seems to know about the two suicide bombings in the Middle East this week
Again inevitable. No westerners killed, not a holiday hot spot for westerners, ergo, to the media, who gives a fuck!
Maybe because it happens so much and people usually care more about their own don't they? Same as you care more about your family or friends more than anyone elses its human nature.
And mass shootings in America is such a rare occurrence!
By "their own" do you mean you should only care if people killed have the same skin colour as you?
No theyre incredibly common, one a day on average.
Notice how they arent in the news every single day though?
But 10 police being shot at a demonstration is pretty rare and hence you hear about it.
Just like the Medina bombing was on the news because its very unusual for SA to be targeted
That's my point. The poster I was responding to implied bombings in Bangladesh weren't reported because they happened all the time and they weren't "her own".
"Since when the fuck was bangledesh in the middle east. | |||
"It's terrible. But odd that no one seems to know about the two suicide bombings in the Middle East this week
Again inevitable. No westerners killed, not a holiday hot spot for westerners, ergo, to the media, who gives a fuck!
Maybe because it happens so much and people usually care more about their own don't they? Same as you care more about your family or friends more than anyone elses its human nature.
And mass shootings in America is such a rare occurrence!
By "their own" do you mean you should only care if people killed have the same skin colour as you?
No theyre incredibly common, one a day on average.
Notice how they arent in the news every single day though?
But 10 police being shot at a demonstration is pretty rare and hence you hear about it.
Just like the Medina bombing was on the news because its very unusual for SA to be targeted
That's my point. The poster I was responding to implied bombings in Bangladesh weren't reported because they happened all the time and they weren't "her own".
Since when the fuck was bangledesh in the middle east."Sigh...Whilst geography was never my strong point, the recent bombings in Bangladesh weren't reported that's what I was referring too, but I suspect you know that. | |||
"It's terrible. But odd that no one seems to know about the two suicide bombings in the Middle East this week
Again inevitable. No westerners killed, not a holiday hot spot for westerners, ergo, to the media, who gives a fuck!
Maybe because it happens so much and people usually care more about their own don't they? Same as you care more about your family or friends more than anyone elses its human nature.
And mass shootings in America is such a rare occurrence!
By "their own" do you mean you should only care if people killed have the same skin colour as you?
No theyre incredibly common, one a day on average.
Notice how they arent in the news every single day though?
But 10 police being shot at a demonstration is pretty rare and hence you hear about it.
Just like the Medina bombing was on the news because its very unusual for SA to be targeted
That's my point. The poster I was responding to implied bombings in Bangladesh weren't reported because they happened all the time and they weren't "her own".
Since when the fuck was bangledesh in the middle east.
Sigh...Whilst geography was never my strong point, the recent bombings in Bangladesh weren't reported that's what I was referring too, but I suspect you know that.
"But they where reffering to the bombings in the middle east. Which ironically where reported. Wuite widely due to the size and location of the blasts. | |||
"White people being killed by police doesn't make the news. Doesn't make killing white people right either White people kill and get killed... Then the law prosecutes. Case closed. It hits the news because when a black person gets killed it always smells fishy. No prosecution. Everyday black on black crime isn't televised either. Black guy kills white guy.. He gets 150 years... Think about your comment. ... How about black officer Trevor Austin who had no charges brought against him for shooting a white 18 year old , naked male student ? Think about your comment.... " Historically in this type of situation naked people are the most violent... | |||
"It is a total disgrace ! The black panthers needs to do a come back ! " This is so true. I'm personally not sure how bad these retaliations are. On the day it happened 186 days of 2016 had elapsed. In that timeframe 126 black folk including under 16 year olds had been murdered by po po. That's 0.67 a day so far. If someone keeps bullying you everyday on the way to / from school and your father says "if you come home crying again without sticking up for yourself, I'm gonna thrash you!" wouldn't you do something to protect yourself from the bully eventually. That's what's happened here and was always gonna happen - it almost looks like it's being done by the US government to either highlight something or cover something up. But of course these trustworthies wouldn't ever do anything like that would they? | |||
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"It's terrible. But odd that no one seems to know about the two suicide bombings in the Middle East this week
Again inevitable. No westerners killed, not a holiday hot spot for westerners, ergo, to the media, who gives a fuck!
Maybe because it happens so much and people usually care more about their own don't they? Same as you care more about your family or friends more than anyone elses its human nature.
And mass shootings in America is such a rare occurrence!
By "their own" do you mean you should only care if people killed have the same skin colour as you?"I didn't say people should only care if people have the same colour skin as you at all but they sometimes do. | |||
"It is a total disgrace ! The black panthers needs to do a come back ! This is so true. I'm personally not sure how bad these retaliations are. On the day it happened 186 days of 2016 had elapsed. In that timeframe 126 black folk including under 16 year olds had been murdered by po po. That's 0.67 a day so far. If someone keeps bullying you everyday on the way to / from school and your father says "if you come home crying again without sticking up for yourself, I'm gonna thrash you!" wouldn't you do something to protect yourself from the bully eventually. That's what's happened here and was always gonna happen - it almost looks like it's being done by the US government to either highlight something or cover something up. But of course these trustworthies wouldn't ever do anything like that would they?" That's a very simplistic way of looking at a very serious problem. You state that 126 black people had been murdered by the police. Do you know the details of these cases? If a person is killed by the police, it doesn't make it murder. As stated above, a black person is 5 times more likely to die a violent death than a white person. 83% of white people die at the hands of white people. 90% of black people die at the hands of a black person. More white people are killed by police than black, however as a percentage of population black people are more at risk. Black people account for about 13% of the US population, yet account for 52% of police officers deaths. It also needs to be stated that only tiny percentage of the black population, like any population, is linked to violence and crime... One final thing to remember, police in America work to different guidelines and conflict resolution to the police in the UK. | |||
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"It all started going wrong big time with gangsta rap...yeah and ya don't stop . Coz it's a 187 on a undercover cop ..." Where did that come from though? Fuck tha police wasn't written because NWA just didn't like the police. Is was based on real life experiences they went through as young black men in Compton. Rap of that era is, in my humble opinion, incredible. I love it. I have never shot anyone either | |||
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