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Wouldn't have ever have Virgin broadband (I know you are talking about TV) because they force you to use their router which they have unrestricted access too and can change at their will. This also means they have access to all connected devices in your home.
Sky BB isn't much better but you can get around having to use their router. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Virgin are a pain when it comes to billing ,ive got four boxes and all the channels and my house phone with them ,and the bill is always different,and i have to ring them every month to get i5 sorted out  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Wouldn't have ever have Virgin broadband (I know you are talking about TV) because they force you to use their router which they have unrestricted access too and can change at their will. This also means they have access to all connected devices in your home.
Sky BB isn't much better but you can get around having to use their router."
Simply switch the virgin router to modem only mode and put your own firewalled router in front of it. then they can't see past their router  I can't be bothered with the TV package though. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Virgin all the way...there broadband is second to none....and as cheap in the long term....plus you dont own the equipment like with Sky so all repairs are FOC  |
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By *heOwlMan
over a year ago
Altrincham |
"Wouldn't have ever have Virgin broadband (I know you are talking about TV) because they force you to use their router which they have unrestricted access too and can change at their will. This also means they have access to all connected devices in your home.
Sky BB isn't much better but you can get around having to use their router."
Doesn't stop you plugging a firwall inbetween the Virgin router and your network and then turning off the firewall on their router. Stops them accessing your network and keeps the effect of their constant config changes on your internet access and network security.
At least that's what I used to do - these days I don't have any choice, no virgin cable to connect to. As for Sky's router, it is a pain in the posterior to remove as they also like to keep it locked down and make thier own config changes.
Owl |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Virgin all the way...there broadband is second to none....and as cheap in the long term....plus you dont own the equipment like with Sky so all repairs are FOC "
With all broadband kit you should NOT use the router provided for your WiFi or cabled lan (Local Area Network), doing that gives the broadband supplier and all their bored technicians full access to your network pc's phones etc.
The proper way to do it is buy your own router, set that up with firewall password, use it for WiFi and connect your PC's etc to it. then if possible switch the provided system to Modem Only mode and connect YOUR protected system to it. then they can't see what you have or what you store on it... as long as you don't put your porn in the cloud of course.
This is not only to protect you from your ISP but also vulnerabilities discovered in mass supplied routers are wide open to hackers. by doing your own thing you make life harder for them and generally they will go elsewhere.
Cost is not high these days and reliability is very good so you won't be worrying about repair bills. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Sky Q for us. Record 4 and watch a fifth, 35mb bb, 2 extra boxes with no dish cables which turn the wifi into hotspots so we can now get it at the bottom of the garden where we sit in summer and never had any issues. Very pleased with it  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Virgins prices are a rip off. They are too expensive always had problems with the bill every month. Sky have better value for money and better coustomer service. "
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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago
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I'd rather not pay money to Sky but there are Sky channels I watch that aren't available on Virgin, and to get the rest of the ones I want means I'd need the most expensive Virgin TV package. That would cost me far more than Sky costs.
I have Virgin broadband though and that's great. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Virgin all the way...there broadband is second to none....and as cheap in the long term....plus you dont own the equipment like with Sky so all repairs are FOC
With all broadband kit you should NOT use the router provided for your WiFi or cabled lan (Local Area Network), doing that gives the broadband supplier and all their bored technicians full access to your network pc's phones etc.
The proper way to do it is buy your own router, set that up with firewall password, use it for WiFi and connect your PC's etc to it. then if possible switch the provided system to Modem Only mode and connect YOUR protected system to it. then they can't see what you have or what you store on it... as long as you don't put your porn in the cloud of course.
This is not only to protect you from your ISP but also vulnerabilities discovered in mass supplied routers are wide open to hackers. by doing your own thing you make life harder for them and generally they will go elsewhere.
Cost is not high these days and reliability is very good so you won't be worrying about repair bills."
So are you saying i could buy my own super hub (virgin box thingy sat on my computer desk) wi fi and replace mine with theirs? But how does the connection then work for the internet that they provide for me and I pay for? Do I need to change my email address as I use what was blueyonder.
I don't use Cloud and I have stopped using the onedrive too as that's rubbish, constantly dropping out, not sure that's connected |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Virgin all the way...there broadband is second to none....and as cheap in the long term....plus you dont own the equipment like with Sky so all repairs are FOC
With all broadband kit you should NOT use the router provided for your WiFi or cabled lan (Local Area Network), doing that gives the broadband supplier and all their bored technicians full access to your network pc's phones etc.
The proper way to do it is buy your own router, set that up with firewall password, use it for WiFi and connect your PC's etc to it. then if possible switch the provided system to Modem Only mode and connect YOUR protected system to it. then they can't see what you have or what you store on it... as long as you don't put your porn in the cloud of course.
This is not only to protect you from your ISP but also vulnerabilities discovered in mass supplied routers are wide open to hackers. by doing your own thing you make life harder for them and generally they will go elsewhere.
Cost is not high these days and reliability is very good so you won't be worrying about repair bills.
So are you saying i could buy my own super hub (virgin box thingy sat on my computer desk) wi fi and replace mine with theirs? But how does the connection then work for the internet that they provide for me and I pay for? Do I need to change my email address as I use what was blueyonder.
I don't use Cloud and I have stopped using the onedrive too as that's rubbish, constantly dropping out, not sure that's connected"
You don't replace theirs, you use their virgin box thingy to connect to the Internet, and you buy your own router with WiFi to connect between everything you own, and the virgin box thingy.
Think of it like having a porch, the postman can come into your porch to leave post on the side, but the inner door is locked. so only you can take the post into the house, if you gave the postman access to the front door, mostly he would leave the post in the hallway, but occasionally he may wander in and take a peek into your underwear drawer. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Had Sky for years. Went up and up. Ended up over £100. Called to see if they could do a deal, offered me 6 months half price movies (£7 off a month) looked at Virgin and looked cheaper overall but not currently providing in my area.
Ended up going for BT broadband with free BT TV and getting Kodi on my fire stick. Free sports and movies and box sets |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Vigin don't show Atlantic, "
I think it's all about best broadband these days and stream what you can't get on your basic to package. Sky was getting stupid! For everything from sky it's £130 a month! |
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"Wouldn't have ever have Virgin broadband (I know you are talking about TV) because they force you to use their router which they have unrestricted access too and can change at their will. This also means they have access to all connected devices in your home.
Sky BB isn't much better but you can get around having to use their router.
Doesn't stop you plugging a firwall inbetween the Virgin router and your network and then turning off the firewall on their router. Stops them accessing your network and keeps the effect of their constant config changes on your internet access and network security.
At least that's what I used to do - these days I don't have any choice, no virgin cable to connect to. As for Sky's router, it is a pain in the posterior to remove as they also like to keep it locked down and make thier own config changes.
Owl"
This is the first thing I did! trouble is how many people would know how to do that? |
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By *mojeeCouple
over a year ago
Dunfermline |
But how will the standard cock measurement be now made. There will be guys with one handset or the other and both will claiming it to be remote standard size. It'll be like using imperial and metric together.  |
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
Newcastle and Gateshead |
"What do you prefer have just switched to virgin got a great offer and have to say I am loving it x"
i have sky over virgin now for the fact of sky atlantic....
ever year go to sky and say virgin are doing the package cheaper and why should i stay... they then say they will match the virgin package... i say cool... everyone goes home happy... |
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Virgin for a few reasons.
1. It's not connected with Rupert Murdoch
2. We have fibre to the door. The slowest internet they offer in our area is 80Mbps
3. It works out cheaper than Sky for our needs
4. The "on demand" service is quicker as unlike Sky it does not download via your broadband
5. Greater bandwidth for HDTV and on demand compared to Sky, so better picture quality
6. The Samsung V+ box allows background dunbbing of recordings to external DVD while watching other TV or recorded material.
7. Broadband is highly reliable at least in our area. |
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Virgin do not force use of their router.
Though I currently do use theirs, for 14 years until April 2016 I used routers I bought and installed myself. Virgin engineers even commented that I knew my stuff and it was no problem. |
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"The customer service on Virgin is appalling. "
Been with Virgin for a long time and have only had one issue with Customer Service. I escalated it to Richard Branson by finding an address for him at Companies House. On his personal order we had half price TV/BB/phone for two years.
But mostly they are fine, if the person you call cannot help then ask to be put through to a manager. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Well we were with sky but got rid and now have virgin but right now I'm not happy because our connection keeps dropping and I'm trying to catch up on love island!!! |
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By *UNKIEMan
over a year ago
south east |
Virgin all the way ..their broadband is awesome as is their tivo box ..another great thing is you dont own the equipment with virgin resulting in free maintenance if something goes wrong unlike sky ..not to mention less disruption during bad weather and no unsightly dish  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Virgin doesn't have Sky Atlantic...I'll stick with sky
What's so fantastic about Atlantic?"
Game of thrones, billions, ballers.
The tv shows are awesome |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Virgin doesn't have Sky Atlantic...I'll stick with sky
What's so fantastic about Atlantic?
Game of thrones, billions, ballers.
The tv shows are awesome "
Lots of streams though and Atlantic isn't worth the extortionate sky prices for me, maybe for others but me personally don't see the value in Sky anymore. Especially after they lost so much sport as well |
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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago
Somewhere in North Norfolk |
"Wouldn't have ever have Virgin broadband (I know you are talking about TV) because they force you to use their router which they have unrestricted access too and can change at their will. This also means they have access to all connected devices in your home.
Sky BB isn't much better but you can get around having to use their router."
They don't get unrestricted access to anything beyond their hub thingy in my home...
I've got at least two layers of security everywhere and three on some devices. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Can someone give me a little advise please as I'm hopeless with this stuff. If I cancel my Sky tv can I still definitely get the normal terrestrial channel's through Sky?"
This is what we do and yes you can
Only a few children's channels but still lots of music channels x |
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"Can someone give me a little advise please as I'm hopeless with this stuff. If I cancel my Sky tv can I still definitely get the normal terrestrial channel's through Sky?
This is what we do and yes you can
Only a few children's channels but still lots of music channels x"
Ok thanks,can you still record as normal. What about the thing's I have on my planner will they disappear presume they will? |
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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago
Somewhere in North Norfolk |
"Can someone give me a little advise please as I'm hopeless with this stuff. If I cancel my Sky tv can I still definitely get the normal terrestrial channel's through Sky?
This is what we do and yes you can
Only a few children's channels but still lots of music channels x
Ok thanks,can you still record as normal. What about the thing's I have on my planner will they disappear presume they will?"
Things on the planner won't disappear but you won't be able to play them. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Can someone give me a little advise please as I'm hopeless with this stuff. If I cancel my Sky tv can I still definitely get the normal terrestrial channel's through Sky?
This is what we do and yes you can
Only a few children's channels but still lots of music channels x
Ok thanks,can you still record as normal. What about the thing's I have on my planner will they disappear presume they will?"
No unfortunately you can no longer record or access programs in your planner xx |
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"Can someone give me a little advise please as I'm hopeless with this stuff. If I cancel my Sky tv can I still definitely get the normal terrestrial channel's through Sky?
This is what we do and yes you can
Only a few children's channels but still lots of music channels x
Ok thanks,can you still record as normal. What about the thing's I have on my planner will they disappear presume they will?
Things on the planner won't disappear but you won't be able to play them."
Poo,I didnt think so. Better watch my rubbish I have recorded then before I cancel. Bugger I like to pause thing's as well  |
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"Can someone give me a little advise please as I'm hopeless with this stuff. If I cancel my Sky tv can I still definitely get the normal terrestrial channel's through Sky?
This is what we do and yes you can
Only a few children's channels but still lots of music channels x
Ok thanks,can you still record as normal. What about the thing's I have on my planner will they disappear presume they will?
No unfortunately you can no longer record or access programs in your planner xx"
You're the bearer of bad news this is not what I wanted to hear |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Wouldn't have ever have Virgin broadband (I know you are talking about TV) because they force you to use their router which they have unrestricted access too and can change at their will. This also means they have access to all connected devices in your home.
Sky BB isn't much better but you can get around having to use their router."
Ive had no problems with my virgin bb |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Ive had no end of trouble with sky cancelled all the TV now having issues with their bb though I did get a hub sent out with a new 1 yr contract and free Internet but on 4th engineers visit |
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
Newcastle and Gateshead |
"Virgin doesn't have Sky Atlantic...I'll stick with sky
What's so fantastic about Atlantic?
Game of thrones, billions, ballers.
The tv shows are awesome "
last week tonight with john oliver, the alan partridge stuff, Veep...
it has become my favourite channel.... |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"What do you prefer have just switched to virgin got a great offer and have to say I am loving it x"
I'm still with Sky and paying an extortionate amount.
I went to the Virgin website weeks ago and filled in the online application. Still waiting for them to get in touch with me. Not happy |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Virgin doesn't have Sky Atlantic...I'll stick with sky
What's so fantastic about Atlantic?
Game of thrones, billions, ballers.
The tv shows are awesome
last week tonight with john oliver, the alan partridge stuff, Veep...
it has become my favourite channel...."
Along with sky sports 4 it's about the only channel I watch |
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By *htcMan
over a year ago
MK |
not that i can get virgin my area, virgin is far better than sky, fibre is simply the best out of all providers. tvo box is also great love going to my parents especially for their fibre speeds. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Well we were with sky but got rid and now have virgin but right now I'm not happy because our connection keeps dropping and I'm trying to catch up on love island!!!"
I had that and now they increased the broadband speed it rarely happens also there's a website you can join that you can see what issues are going on in your area |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Virgin doesn't have Sky Atlantic...I'll stick with sky
What's so fantastic about Atlantic?
Game of thrones, billions, ballers.
The tv shows are awesome
last week tonight with john oliver, the alan partridge stuff, Veep...
it has become my favourite channel....
Along with sky sports 4 it's about the only channel I watch "
Not programmes I watch so no big deal for me |
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