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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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Following on from the superhero thread, which comic characters do you feel received short shrift on the big screen and conversely who did they get right?
Obviously Nolans batman was very well done and the man of steel was decent, wolverine has been pretty accurate as was professor x
But then we have green lantern, cyclops, rogue and Phoenix...
Dear geeks, your thoughts... |
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Walking dead isn't half as good as the graphic novels, not expecting much of preacher either.
I (fem) don't read guys superhero comics so can't comment on them  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Most of the time they're pretty accurate, I get that most of the time they have to do their own thing and can't just translate it directly, like panel to panel onto the screen. Like Watchmen isn't the exact same but you get the idea |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Deadpool and Collossus were brilliant in my opinion. I loved it!
To be fair, the recent batch of films have been pretty good to the characters. Not sure about the Scarlet Witch though  |
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Oh god  talking comics......... 
Deadpool film good. Deadpool in wolverine was not good.
Marvel are doing well with films very entertaining but far from the comics. But nice eye candy for the audience.
Never was a DC fan, but man of steel was alright. And the end fight in batman v superman was a joke, it was like watching two films. |
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"Walking dead isn't half as good as the graphic novels, not expecting much of preacher either.
I (fem) don't read guys superhero comics so can't comment on them "
Not seen preacher yet but what I'm hearing it's a pleasant surprise !! |
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Fantastic Four epic fail to portray Doctor Doom as the iconic and ingenious baddie he was in the comics. Both movies Doom’s plans are never that clear or distinctive and they failed to get across the megalomaniac behind the mask.
For goodness sake Doom is the king of Latveria as well as a powerful sorcerer. He ranks near the top in most lists of greatest comic book characters and villains.
It made me sad
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Two comics by Mark Millar.
Wanted the film adaption was pants.
The Secret Service made as Kingsman: Secret Service, amazingly in my view the film was better than the comic and l loved the comic. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Fantastic Four epic fail to portray Doctor Doom as the iconic and ingenious baddie he was in the comics. Both movies Doom’s plans are never that clear or distinctive and they failed to get across the megalomaniac behind the mask.
For goodness sake Doom is the king of Latveria as well as a powerful sorcerer. He ranks near the top in most lists of greatest comic book characters and villains.
It made me sad
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Spot on there Knitter!
Doom in the recent comics fluff has been fun though.
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Fantastic Four epic fail to portray Doctor Doom as the iconic and ingenious baddie he was in the comics. Both movies Doom’s plans are never that clear or distinctive and they failed to get across the megalomaniac behind the mask.
For goodness sake Doom is the king of Latveria as well as a powerful sorcerer. He ranks near the top in most lists of greatest comic book characters and villains.
It made me sad
Spot on there Knitter!
Doom in the recent comics fluff has been fun though.
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Fantastic Four epic fail to portray Doctor Doom as the iconic and ingenious baddie he was in the comics. Both movies Doom’s plans are never that clear or distinctive and they failed to get across the megalomaniac behind the mask.
For goodness sake Doom is the king of Latveria as well as a powerful sorcerer. He ranks near the top in most lists of greatest comic book characters and villains.
It made me sad
Spot on there Knitter!
Doom in the recent comics fluff has been fun though.
You can go off people you know "
Hehe! Ah, do you not aprove of his new leaf then?  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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I seem to remember bob kane, the creator of batman saying val kilmer portrayed batman as he envisioned him in the first place... I wonder what hed think of clooney...bale and affleck |
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"I seem to remember bob kane, the creator of batman saying val kilmer portrayed batman as he envisioned him in the first place... I wonder what hed think of clooney...bale and affleck"
Kilmer was a good batman but I thought his Bruce Wayne was weak. But as said, I'm not a DC fan so easy to knock things they try.
I just think Marvel have a good balance on showcasing their creations to comic fans, tv fans and then to the big screen. This is why i like the Flash. It an easy pick up and watch, the characters are likeable. I like the Spider-Man comics because I'm hot for MJ, I like the avengers films for the un-real fights.
Deadpool is the nearest adaptation from comic to film hitting all the right notes on what a fan wanted. |
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"I seem to remember bob kane, the creator of batman saying val kilmer portrayed batman as he envisioned him in the first place... I wonder what hed think of clooney...bale and affleck
Kilmer was a good batman but I thought his Bruce Wayne was weak. But as said, I'm not a DC fan so easy to knock things they try.
I just think Marvel have a good balance on showcasing their creations to comic fans, tv fans and then to the big screen. This is why i like the Flash. It an easy pick up and watch, the characters are likeable. I like the Spider-Man comics because I'm hot for MJ, I like the avengers films for the un-real fights.
Deadpool is the nearest adaptation from comic to film hitting all the right notes on what a fan wanted. "
I agree, kilmer was good, i also think affleck will eventually be regarded as a good batman, if anyones seen the flashpoint paradox id say affleck is like thomas wayne in that, angry n bitter |
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On the whole I find characters within the MCU to be quite comparable to their comic book counterparts. Whether the actor chosen for the role was a good fit or not (I'm looking at you Nicholas Cage), the general vibe of the character seems right, (mostly down to director and writers).
In recent memory, there has only been one character I felt MCU got completely wrong - enough to instantly shout at the screen and rant about it on social media. That character was a minor one from First Class - Darwin. I'm still seething from his impossible death now lol |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"On the whole I find characters within the MCU to be quite comparable to their comic book counterparts. Whether the actor chosen for the role was a good fit or not (I'm looking at you Nicholas Cage), the general vibe of the character seems right, (mostly down to director and writers).
In recent memory, there has only been one character I felt MCU got completely wrong - enough to instantly shout at the screen and rant about it on social media. That character was a minor one from First Class - Darwin. I'm still seething from his impossible death now lol"
X men first class isn't in the MCU, neither is Ghost Rider I don't think |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Ghost rider spirit of vengeance is , i believe."
it says on wiki that the film rights returned to Marvel Studios on May 2013, so it's not in continuity with the MCU. I guess we'll have to see if Nic Cage turns up in Infinity War  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Ghost rider spirit of vengeance is , i believe. it says on wiki that the film rights returned to Marvel Studios on May 2013, so it's not in continuity with the MCU. I guess we'll have to see if Nic Cage turns up in Infinity War "
At least Spidey is back in the MCU fold! |
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By *arksMan
over a year ago
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Looking forward to Dr. Strange , the recent fantastic four was awful , the run of films introducing The Avengers were very good as were the 2 Avengers films. Civil War was epic , with a nice introduction to the new Spider-man, although I do feel a little bit sorry for Andrew Garfield as I thought his portrayal of the web slinger was good. The re-introduction of the X-men with First Class , Days of Future Past and Apocolypse have been very good too. The Dark Knight trilogy was well done also , Michael Keaton for me is still the best Batman tho |
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"Ghost rider spirit of vengeance is , i believe. it says on wiki that the film rights returned to Marvel Studios on May 2013, so it's not in continuity with the MCU. I guess we'll have to see if Nic Cage turns up in Infinity War "
I hope so, he was defo a character in civil war comics so heres hoping. Also i think ghost rider went to marvels sister company called marvel knights, they also did punisher warzone |
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"X men first class isn't in the MCU, neither is Ghost Rider I don't think "
No, you're absolutely right. I used the term MCU incorrectly. I guess I should've just used 'Marvel' instead... They were all definitely marvel creations. Please don't tell me my childhood was a total lie  |
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"Looking forward to Dr. Strange , the recent fantastic four was awful , the run of films introducing The Avengers were very good as were the 2 Avengers films. Civil War was epic , with a nice introduction to the new Spider-man, although I do feel a little bit sorry for Andrew Garfield as I thought his portrayal of the web slinger was good. The re-introduction of the X-men with First Class , Days of Future Past and Apocolypse have been very good too. The Dark Knight trilogy was well done also , Michael Keaton for me is still the best Batman tho "
 Micheal Keston will forever be damn hard to top! He might not be the most faithful adaptation to the comics, but somehow he is just the best!
And the actors that have played Joker haven't done any injustice to the role (so far! We'll see how Jarred Leto fares in Suicide Squad). |
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By *arksMan
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"Looking forward to Dr. Strange , the recent fantastic four was awful , the run of films introducing The Avengers were very good as were the 2 Avengers films. Civil War was epic , with a nice introduction to the new Spider-man, although I do feel a little bit sorry for Andrew Garfield as I thought his portrayal of the web slinger was good. The re-introduction of the X-men with First Class , Days of Future Past and Apocolypse have been very good too. The Dark Knight trilogy was well done also , Michael Keaton for me is still the best Batman tho
Micheal Keston will forever be damn hard to top! He might not be the most faithful adaptation to the comics, but somehow he is just the best!
And the actors that have played Joker haven't done any injustice to the role (so far! We'll see how Jarred Leto fares in Suicide Squad). "
True , Batman Returns is still my favourite , De Vito as Penguin is still my favourite villain |
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They fucked up with the silver surfer putting him in that stupid fantastic four film.
But portrayed pretty well, the melancholy nature reluctant baddie.
The least said about stallones version of judge dredd the better.
But the Carl urban version was pretty damn spot on.
Dredd is the ultimate bad ass law man. |
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"They fucked up with the silver surfer putting him in that stupid fantastic four film.
But portrayed pretty well, the melancholy nature reluctant baddie.
The least said about stallones version of judge dredd the better.
But the Carl urban version was pretty damn spot on.
Dredd is the ultimate bad ass law man. "
There is only one Dread! We don't talk about Rocky fecking it all up |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"They fucked up with the silver surfer putting him in that stupid fantastic four film.
But portrayed pretty well, the melancholy nature reluctant baddie.
The least said about stallones version of judge dredd the better.
But the Carl urban version was pretty damn spot on.
Dredd is the ultimate bad ass law man.
There is only one Dread! We don't talk about Rocky fecking it all up "
Arse! I mean Dredd! Not Dread Bloody spell assisty crap!! Lol |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"On the whole I find characters within the MCU to be quite comparable to their comic book counterparts. Whether the actor chosen for the role was a good fit or not (I'm looking at you Nicholas Cage), the general vibe of the character seems right, (mostly down to director and writers).
In recent memory, there has only been one character I felt MCU got completely wrong - enough to instantly shout at the screen and rant about it on social media. That character was a minor one from First Class - Darwin. I'm still seething from his impossible death now lol"
I agree with you on this, the thing I like is that they've taken the right actors for the roles and produced the films and tv shows scrupulously, everything ties in. Throughout they're aware that fans reactions are important and impact on the sales |
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By (user no longer on site)
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The resident fantastic four 'reboot' failed. The only marvel film not to have a cameo from Stan. Odd. They tried a different thing totally and missed the target.
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By (user no longer on site)
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"The resident fantastic four 'reboot' failed. The only marvel film not to have a cameo from Stan. Odd. They tried a different thing totally and missed the target.
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I remember people saying that the studio kept getting over involved with it, and that ruined it |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Probably. Look at the characters, no attempt to match to their comic book counter parts at all. Leaving fans with a big confused expression from the word go. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Following on from the superhero thread, which comic characters do you feel received short shrift on the big screen and conversely who did they get right?
Obviously Nolans batman was very well done and the man of steel was decent, wolverine has been pretty accurate as was professor x
But then we have green lantern, cyclops, rogue and Phoenix...
Dear geeks, your thoughts..."
Keanu Reeves screen interpretation of John Constantine...as a die hard fan, that was painful... not seen the TV version |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Following on from the superhero thread, which comic characters do you feel received short shrift on the big screen and conversely who did they get right?
Obviously Nolans batman was very well done and the man of steel was decent, wolverine has been pretty accurate as was professor x
But then we have green lantern, cyclops, rogue and Phoenix...
Dear geeks, your thoughts...
Keanu Reeves screen interpretation of John Constantine...as a die hard fan, that was painful... not seen the TV version"
There's a TV version?! Googling now! |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Following on from the superhero thread, which comic characters do you feel received short shrift on the big screen and conversely who did they get right?
Obviously Nolans batman was very well done and the man of steel was decent, wolverine has been pretty accurate as was professor x
But then we have green lantern, cyclops, rogue and Phoenix...
Dear geeks, your thoughts...
Keanu Reeves screen interpretation of John Constantine...as a die hard fan, that was painful... not seen the TV version"
It wasn't bad, the lead guy was good but the show was mainly dull and didn't seem to know where it wanted to go |
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Got my fingers crossed for Harley & Joker. Not gonna get my hopes up over Will Smith playing Deadshot. The less said about Halle Berry's Catwoman the better. |
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"Got my fingers crossed for Harley & Joker. Not gonna get my hopes up over Will Smith playing Deadshot. The less said about Halle Berry's Catwoman the better. "
the recent clips they released made it seem like Will Smith is playing Will Smith not Deadshot
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Keanu Reeves screen interpretation of John Constantine...as a die hard fan, that was painful... not seen the TV version
It wasn't bad, the lead guy was good but the show was mainly dull and didn't seem to know where it wanted to go"
The character's been misused so much lately...I'm all for experimenting, trying to reinterpret characters to revitalize them
..but Constantine's just gone to shit, hope it's just a phase |
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"Got my fingers crossed for Harley & Joker. Not gonna get my hopes up over Will Smith playing Deadshot. The less said about Halle Berry's Catwoman the better. "
She Who Shall Not Be Named was pretty damn awful! And Big Willy aside, I'm genuinely looking forward to Suicide Squad |
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"Got my fingers crossed for Harley & Joker. Not gonna get my hopes up over Will Smith playing Deadshot. The less said about Halle Berry's Catwoman the better. the recent clips they released made it seem like Will Smith is playing Will Smith not Deadshot "
When has he not played Will Smith? Lol. |
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"Got my fingers crossed for Harley & Joker. Not gonna get my hopes up over Will Smith playing Deadshot. The less said about Halle Berry's Catwoman the better.
I'm genuinely looking forward to Suicide Squad "
Same here, and not just coz Letos Joker is giving me multiples every time I see him. |
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Keanu Reeves screen interpretation of John Constantine...as a die hard fan, that was painful... not seen the TV version
It wasn't bad, the lead guy was good but the show was mainly dull and didn't seem to know where it wanted to go
The character's been misused so much lately...I'm all for experimenting, trying to reinterpret characters to revitalize them
..but Constantine's just gone to shit, hope it's just a phase"
I felt the same but Injustice Year 3 uses him brilliantly. Constantine, Chaz, Batman and the Chimp Detective in a taxi, tears rolled down my cheeks with laughter. The punchline for that sketch was worth the price of admittance. The final panels of the series were magic. |
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"Keanu Reeves screen interpretation of John Constantine...as a die hard fan, that was painful... not seen the TV version"
I don't like to be unkind but and as a rule I like Keanu Reeves but as John Constantine I wanted to cry. I used naughty words when shouting at the TV 
My name is John Constantine. I am the one who steps on the shadows, all trench coat and arrogance. I'll drive your demons away, kick theem in the bollocks, and spit on them when they're down, leaving only a nod and a wink and a wisecrack.
I walk my path alone because, let's be honest who would be crazy enough to walk it with me? |
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"the recent clips they released made it seem like Will Smith is playing Will Smith not Deadshot "
Terrible casting in my opinion, but he's not the only one in the DC universe, Ezra Miller as the Flash anyone? |
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"the recent clips they released made it seem like Will Smith is playing Will Smith not Deadshot
Terrible casting in my opinion, but he's not the only one in the DC universe, Ezra Miller as the Flash anyone? "
I've never seen or heard of Ezra Miller before he was cast as Barry. I've no idea what he'll be like, I'm one of those who only see Grant Gustin as Barry now lol |
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"the recent clips they released made it seem like Will Smith is playing Will Smith not Deadshot
Terrible casting in my opinion, but he's not the only one in the DC universe, Ezra Miller as the Flash anyone? I've never seen or heard of Ezra Miller before he was cast as Barry. I've no idea what he'll be like, I'm one of those who only see Grant Gustin as Barry now lol"
I don't understand why the tv series that DC are producing don't feed into the cinematic universe like they do with marvel. It just makes the TVs series feel like they don't matter |
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"the recent clips they released made it seem like Will Smith is playing Will Smith not Deadshot
Terrible casting in my opinion, but he's not the only one in the DC universe, Ezra Miller as the Flash anyone? I've never seen or heard of Ezra Miller before he was cast as Barry. I've no idea what he'll be like, I'm one of those who only see Grant Gustin as Barry now lol
I don't understand why the tv series that DC are producing don't feed into the cinematic universe like they do with marvel. It just makes the TVs series feel like they don't matter"
That's just a studio thing wanting them to be separate, and at DC they never had a Kevin Feige type figure to oversee everything. So like with the shows they were always unsure on who and what they could include, why they (spoiler alert) killed off Amanda Waller for example. Recently Geoff Johns has taken that role, so I think the TV shows will improve because of that |
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"the recent clips they released made it seem like Will Smith is playing Will Smith not Deadshot
Terrible casting in my opinion, but he's not the only one in the DC universe, Ezra Miller as the Flash anyone? I've never seen or heard of Ezra Miller before he was cast as Barry. I've no idea what he'll be like, I'm one of those who only see Grant Gustin as Barry now lol
I don't understand why the tv series that DC are producing don't feed into the cinematic universe like they do with marvel. It just makes the TVs series feel like they don't matter That's just a studio thing wanting them to be separate, and at DC they never had a Kevin Feige type figure to oversee everything. So like with the shows they were always unsure on who and what they could include, why they (spoiler alert) killed off Amanda Waller for example. Recently Geoff Johns has taken that role, so I think the TV shows will improve because of that "
Maybe but it does make you question as to which is meant to be canon |
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Maybe but it does make you question as to which is meant to be canon
All of it I guess, it's a multiverse "
That's very much a cop out! I get what you're saying though |
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"Following on from the superhero thread, which comic characters do you feel received short shrift on the big screen and conversely who did they get right?
Obviously Nolans batman was very well done and the man of steel was decent, wolverine has been pretty accurate as was professor x
But then we have green lantern, cyclops, rogue and Phoenix...
Dear geeks, your thoughts...
Keanu Reeves screen interpretation of John Constantine...as a die hard fan, that was painful... not seen the TV version
There's a TV version?! Googling now! "
Tv version good, but as usual it got dropped after one season |
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