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"a friend has just been pulled over - 96 in a 60, anyone know what he should expect? hopefully just £60 and 3 points?" 100 quid minimum fine now. And for 96 in a sixy its gonna be at least 6 points and probbaly a few hundred quid. Depending on any agrivating factors | |||
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"a friend has just been pulled over - 96 in a 60, anyone know what he should expect? hopefully just £60 and 3 points? 100 quid minimum fine now. And for 96 in a sixy its gonna be at least 6 points and probbaly a few hundred quid. Depending on any agrivating factors " it was coming out of a few corners then onto a long straight, on the bikes we hit that road real fast, just as well he was in car and realistically it was only 36 over speed limit not taking into account speedo adjustment | |||
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"a friend has just been pulled over - 96 in a 60, anyone know what he should expect? hopefully just £60 and 3 points? 100 quid minimum fine now. And for 96 in a sixy its gonna be at least 6 points and probbaly a few hundred quid. Depending on any agrivating factors it was coming out of a few corners then onto a long straight, on the bikes we hit that road real fast, just as well he was in car and realistically it was only 36 over speed limit not taking into account speedo adjustment" 30 over the speed limit is the threshold for an instant ban. If hes got s toatally clear license he might have a chance but with a group of bikes with him hes likley to get off badly ban and a lot of points. Cause they'll put it as he was racing etc | |||
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"...and realistically it was only 36 over speed limit.." "Only" 60%! | |||
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"a friend has just been pulled over - 96 in a 60, anyone know what he should expect? hopefully just £60 and 3 points? 100 quid minimum fine now. And for 96 in a sixy its gonna be at least 6 points and probbaly a few hundred quid. Depending on any agrivating factors it was coming out of a few corners then onto a long straight, on the bikes we hit that road real fast, just as well he was in car and realistically it was only 36 over speed limit not taking into account speedo adjustment" That's an interesting use of the word 'only'. It was more than half as much again as the speed limit. Someone I know got killed by a tosser who was 'only' a few miles over the speed limit. | |||
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"...and realistically it was only 36 over speed limit.. "Only" 60%!" Tbh a lot of the 60s and 70s could do with a speed limit rise to account for the fact rhat cars are way more capable than the ones that where around when the speed limits where written. 30s though need to stay at 30 because of the possibility of a pedestrian being struck with no chance of the driver being able to break so its a damage mitigation thing there | |||
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"a friend has just been pulled over - 96 in a 60, anyone know what he should expect? hopefully just £60 and 3 points? 100 quid minimum fine now. And for 96 in a sixy its gonna be at least 6 points and probbaly a few hundred quid. Depending on any agrivating factors it was coming out of a few corners then onto a long straight, on the bikes we hit that road real fast, just as well he was in car and realistically it was only 36 over speed limit not taking into account speedo adjustment That's an interesting use of the word 'only'. It was more than half as much again as the speed limit. Someone I know got killed by a tosser who was 'only' a few miles over the speed limit. " Completely agree ![]() | |||
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"...and realistically it was only 36 over speed limit.. "Only" 60%! Tbh a lot of the 60s and 70s could do with a speed limit rise to account for the fact rhat cars are way more capable than the ones that where around when the speed limits where written. 30s though need to stay at 30 because of the possibility of a pedestrian being struck with no chance of the driver being able to break so its a damage mitigation thing there" I agree, but it isn't, so he shouldn't. | |||
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"...and realistically it was only 36 over speed limit.. "Only" 60%! Tbh a lot of the 60s and 70s could do with a speed limit rise to account for the fact rhat cars are way more capable than the ones that where around when the speed limits where written. 30s though need to stay at 30 because of the possibility of a pedestrian being struck with no chance of the driver being able to break so its a damage mitigation thing there I agree, but it isn't, so he shouldn't. " I agree, I'm just debating the point about "only". Cause speed is rarely a causal factor but an agrivating factor when you look at the stats. Generaly the people who are the most risk i find are only going about 5-10mph as they pull out on you lol | |||
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"a friend has just been pulled over - 96 in a 60, anyone know what he should expect? hopefully just £60 and 3 points? 100 quid minimum fine now. And for 96 in a sixy its gonna be at least 6 points and probbaly a few hundred quid. Depending on any agrivating factors it was coming out of a few corners then onto a long straight, on the bikes we hit that road real fast, just as well he was in car and realistically it was only 36 over speed limit not taking into account speedo adjustment 30 over the speed limit is the threshold for an instant ban. If hes got s toatally clear license he might have a chance but with a group of bikes with him hes likley to get off badly ban and a lot of points. Cause they'll put it as he was racing etc " sorry Wolf, I may have written that wrong, he wasn't on the bike, he was pulled over in car, I meant it was a fast road for bikes, where we come out of a few twisties and really open up, just as well he was in car as this is a fast road for bikes, and a location out in the middle of no where coming back from a race day at knock hill | |||
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"...and realistically it was only 36 over speed limit.. "Only" 60%! Tbh a lot of the 60s and 70s could do with a speed limit rise to account for the fact rhat cars are way more capable than the ones that where around when the speed limits where written. 30s though need to stay at 30 because of the possibility of a pedestrian being struck with no chance of the driver being able to break so its a damage mitigation thing there" I agree, however, exceeding the limit by 60% can't realistically be described using "only". 60% isn't a small margin. Courts will see 60% as a lot, not "only" anything. | |||
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"...and realistically it was only 36 over speed limit.. "Only" 60%! Tbh a lot of the 60s and 70s could do with a speed limit rise to account for the fact rhat cars are way more capable than the ones that where around when the speed limits where written. 30s though need to stay at 30 because of the possibility of a pedestrian being struck with no chance of the driver being able to break so its a damage mitigation thing there I agree, but it isn't, so he shouldn't. I agree, I'm just debating the point about "only". Cause speed is rarely a causal factor but an agrivating factor when you look at the stats. Generaly the people who are the most risk i find are only going about 5-10mph as they pull out on you lol" I realise it was over the limit, but some on bikes hit 140+ guess that's why the police trap was there | |||
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"I realise it was over the limit, but some on bikes hit 140+ guess that's why the police trap was there" I realise stealing £100 000 was wrong but it was only £100k and some people steal millions... I realise murdering someone was wrong but it was only one person and some people murder more... It could have been worse isn't a valid excuse. No judgement because I break the speed limit myself sometimes. I used to have a very fast car and was somewhat irresponsible. I wouldn't have called 60% over the limit "only" 60% though and I wouldn't have tried to justify it. If you take the risk, you also take the consequences if you get caught. | |||
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"a friend has just been pulled over - 96 in a 60, anyone know what he should expect? hopefully just £60 and 3 points? 100 quid minimum fine now. And for 96 in a sixy its gonna be at least 6 points and probbaly a few hundred quid. Depending on any agrivating factors it was coming out of a few corners then onto a long straight, on the bikes we hit that road real fast, just as well he was in car and realistically it was only 36 over speed limit not taking into account speedo adjustment 30 over the speed limit is the threshold for an instant ban. If hes got s toatally clear license he might have a chance but with a group of bikes with him hes likley to get off badly ban and a lot of points. Cause they'll put it as he was racing etc sorry Wolf, I may have written that wrong, he wasn't on the bike, he was pulled over in car, I meant it was a fast road for bikes, where we come out of a few twisties and really open up, just as well he was in car as this is a fast road for bikes, and a location out in the middle of no where coming back from a race day at knock hill" A right i thought there was a bunch of you on bikes and him following in the car. And they only caught him. If they've set a trap it may be a blackspot with a few accidents which can count against him | |||
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"a friend has just been pulled over - 96 in a 60, anyone know what he should expect? hopefully just £60 and 3 points? 100 quid minimum fine now. And for 96 in a sixy its gonna be at least 6 points and probbaly a few hundred quid. Depending on any agrivating factors it was coming out of a few corners then onto a long straight, on the bikes we hit that road real fast, just as well he was in car and realistically it was only 36 over speed limit not taking into account speedo adjustment 30 over the speed limit is the threshold for an instant ban. If hes got s toatally clear license he might have a chance but with a group of bikes with him hes likley to get off badly ban and a lot of points. Cause they'll put it as he was racing etc sorry Wolf, I may have written that wrong, he wasn't on the bike, he was pulled over in car, I meant it was a fast road for bikes, where we come out of a few twisties and really open up, just as well he was in car as this is a fast road for bikes, and a location out in the middle of no where coming back from a race day at knock hill A right i thought there was a bunch of you on bikes and him following in the car. And they only caught him. If they've set a trap it may be a blackspot with a few accidents which can count against him " Or it's easy pickings and they wanted the results and the cash cow. Cynical? Me? | |||
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"...and realistically it was only 36 over speed limit.. "Only" 60%! Tbh a lot of the 60s and 70s could do with a speed limit rise to account for the fact rhat cars are way more capable than the ones that where around when the speed limits where written. 30s though need to stay at 30 because of the possibility of a pedestrian being struck with no chance of the driver being able to break so its a damage mitigation thing there I agree, however, exceeding the limit by 60% can't realistically be described using "only". 60% isn't a small margin. Courts will see 60% as a lot, not "only" anything." Depends really as the guy who said it is a biker, ona straight empty country road the differnce between 60 and 96 is a twist of a fraction of an inch and about 1.5 seconds. So for him "only" is quite valid lol. | |||
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"I realise it was over the limit, but some on bikes hit 140+ guess that's why the police trap was there I realise stealing £100 000 was wrong but it was only £100k and some people steal millions... I realise murdering someone was wrong but it was only one person and some people murder more... It could have been worse isn't a valid excuse. No judgement because I break the speed limit myself sometimes. I used to have a very fast car and was somewhat irresponsible. I wouldn't have called 60% over the limit "only" 60% though and I wouldn't have tried to justify it. If you take the risk, you also take the consequences if you get caught." ![]() | |||
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"a friend has just been pulled over - 96 in a 60, anyone know what he should expect? hopefully just £60 and 3 points? 100 quid minimum fine now. And for 96 in a sixy its gonna be at least 6 points and probbaly a few hundred quid. Depending on any agrivating factors it was coming out of a few corners then onto a long straight, on the bikes we hit that road real fast, just as well he was in car and realistically it was only 36 over speed limit not taking into account speedo adjustment 30 over the speed limit is the threshold for an instant ban. If hes got s toatally clear license he might have a chance but with a group of bikes with him hes likley to get off badly ban and a lot of points. Cause they'll put it as he was racing etc sorry Wolf, I may have written that wrong, he wasn't on the bike, he was pulled over in car, I meant it was a fast road for bikes, where we come out of a few twisties and really open up, just as well he was in car as this is a fast road for bikes, and a location out in the middle of no where coming back from a race day at knock hill A right i thought there was a bunch of you on bikes and him following in the car. And they only caught him. If they've set a trap it may be a blackspot with a few accidents which can count against him Or it's easy pickings and they wanted the results and the cash cow. Cynical? Me?" Depends, he wont find out till sentencing | |||
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"...and realistically it was only 36 over speed limit.. "Only" 60%! Tbh a lot of the 60s and 70s could do with a speed limit rise to account for the fact rhat cars are way more capable than the ones that where around when the speed limits where written. 30s though need to stay at 30 because of the possibility of a pedestrian being struck with no chance of the driver being able to break so its a damage mitigation thing there I agree, however, exceeding the limit by 60% can't realistically be described using "only". 60% isn't a small margin. Courts will see 60% as a lot, not "only" anything. Depends really as the guy who said it is a biker, ona straight empty country road the differnce between 60 and 96 is a twist of a fraction of an inch and about 1.5 seconds. So for him "only" is quite valid lol." Whilst I see your point, I disagree. 60% over a limit is not marginal. Bikes are fast, yes, but bikers or drivers, if they are on the road, should be capable of sticking to the speed limit. I had a car that did 0-60 in 4.8s for a while. 60 to 96 could be achieved quite quickly; not as fast as some bikes, but pretty rapidly nonetheless. I never considered it "only" 60% over the limit, even when I sometimes exceeded the limit by much more than that. | |||
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"...and realistically it was only 36 over speed limit.. "Only" 60%! Tbh a lot of the 60s and 70s could do with a speed limit rise to account for the fact rhat cars are way more capable than the ones that where around when the speed limits where written. 30s though need to stay at 30 because of the possibility of a pedestrian being struck with no chance of the driver being able to break so its a damage mitigation thing there I agree, however, exceeding the limit by 60% can't realistically be described using "only". 60% isn't a small margin. Courts will see 60% as a lot, not "only" anything. Depends really as the guy who said it is a biker, ona straight empty country road the differnce between 60 and 96 is a twist of a fraction of an inch and about 1.5 seconds. So for him "only" is quite valid lol. Whilst I see your point, I disagree. 60% over a limit is not marginal. Bikes are fast, yes, but bikers or drivers, if they are on the road, should be capable of sticking to the speed limit. I had a car that did 0-60 in 4.8s for a while. 60 to 96 could be achieved quite quickly; not as fast as some bikes, but pretty rapidly nonetheless. I never considered it "only" 60% over the limit, even when I sometimes exceeded the limit by much more than that." yes and no, my MV - F4 needs a speed of roughly 70-80mph to keep the cooling temp running fine, any slower and you watch the temp slowly rise, okay the fans cut in but its still a hot running bike. but im going off on a tangent; Is it correct you can request a speed awareness course instead of points, and if so, how do you apply for this | |||
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"...and realistically it was only 36 over speed limit.. "Only" 60%! Tbh a lot of the 60s and 70s could do with a speed limit rise to account for the fact rhat cars are way more capable than the ones that where around when the speed limits where written. 30s though need to stay at 30 because of the possibility of a pedestrian being struck with no chance of the driver being able to break so its a damage mitigation thing there I agree, however, exceeding the limit by 60% can't realistically be described using "only". 60% isn't a small margin. Courts will see 60% as a lot, not "only" anything. Depends really as the guy who said it is a biker, ona straight empty country road the differnce between 60 and 96 is a twist of a fraction of an inch and about 1.5 seconds. So for him "only" is quite valid lol. Whilst I see your point, I disagree. 60% over a limit is not marginal. Bikes are fast, yes, but bikers or drivers, if they are on the road, should be capable of sticking to the speed limit. I had a car that did 0-60 in 4.8s for a while. 60 to 96 could be achieved quite quickly; not as fast as some bikes, but pretty rapidly nonetheless. I never considered it "only" 60% over the limit, even when I sometimes exceeded the limit by much more than that. yes and no, my MV - F4 needs a speed of roughly 70-80mph to keep the cooling temp running fine, any slower and you watch the temp slowly rise, okay the fans cut in but its still a hot running bike. but im going off on a tangent; Is it correct you can request a speed awareness course instead of points, and if so, how do you apply for this" .yes you csn take the course if you're only a small amount over the limit. For a 60 the cut off is 75mph. For 96 he is going to court | |||
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" Is it correct you can request a speed awareness course instead of points, and if so, how do you apply for this" I don't think they let you apply, I think it is often offered as an alternative for first offenders. | |||
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"a friend has just been pulled over - 96 in a 60, anyone know what he should expect? hopefully just £60 and 3 points?" Court and a 7 day ban Anything over 40% over speed limit (which is 84 in a 60) will be a temp ban. Upto 56 days but prob 7 if first offence | |||
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"...and realistically it was only 36 over speed limit.. "Only" 60%! Tbh a lot of the 60s and 70s could do with a speed limit rise to account for the fact rhat cars are way more capable than the ones that where around when the speed limits where written. 30s though need to stay at 30 because of the possibility of a pedestrian being struck with no chance of the driver being able to break so its a damage mitigation thing there I agree, however, exceeding the limit by 60% can't realistically be described using "only". 60% isn't a small margin. Courts will see 60% as a lot, not "only" anything. Depends really as the guy who said it is a biker, ona straight empty country road the differnce between 60 and 96 is a twist of a fraction of an inch and about 1.5 seconds. So for him "only" is quite valid lol. Whilst I see your point, I disagree. 60% over a limit is not marginal. Bikes are fast, yes, but bikers or drivers, if they are on the road, should be capable of sticking to the speed limit. I had a car that did 0-60 in 4.8s for a while. 60 to 96 could be achieved quite quickly; not as fast as some bikes, but pretty rapidly nonetheless. I never considered it "only" 60% over the limit, even when I sometimes exceeded the limit by much more than that. yes and no, my MV - F4 needs a speed of roughly 70-80mph to keep the cooling temp running fine, any slower and you watch the temp slowly rise, okay the fans cut in but its still a hot running bike. but im going off on a tangent; Is it correct you can request a speed awareness course instead of points, and if so, how do you apply for this .yes you csn take the course if you're only a small amount over the limit. For a 60 the cut off is 75mph. For 96 he is going to court" can you request this at court, or by letter before court, or get a solicitor to request anything but points | |||
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"my MV - F4 needs a speed of roughly 70-80mph to keep the cooling temp running fine, any slower and you watch the temp slowly rise, okay the fans cut in but its still a hot running bike." I'd love to hear the response in court to trying that defence in a speeding case! If that is genuinely the situation, it's not a bike suited to use on public roads. It's that simple. | |||
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"'a friend' might just get a warning if it's a first offence." Not a snowball in hells chance. 96?.... Court for sure! | |||
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"a friend has just been pulled over - 96 in a 60, anyone know what he should expect? hopefully just £60 and 3 points?" The book thrown at him ? ![]() | |||
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"a friend has just been pulled over - 96 in a 60, anyone know what he should expect? hopefully just £60 and 3 points?" I would expect a possibly ban and a fine of at least £300. | |||
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" Is it correct you can request a speed awareness course instead of points, and if so, how do you apply for this I don't think they let you apply, I think it is often offered as an alternative for first offenders. " AND if you are within 10 mph of the limit....not applicable here. I have been on such a course....quite funny actually! | |||
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"a friend has just been pulled over - 96 in a 60, anyone know what he should expect? hopefully just £60 and 3 points? I would expect a possibly ban and a fine of at least £300." no way, you need a 100+ for a ban, no other traffic on road, isolated spot with no access for pedestrians, not even animals in fields, just one bloody speed camera van | |||
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" anything but points" Hmmm that probably indicates that he already has points on his licence then ..... How did he get those ? ![]() | |||
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"a friend has just been pulled over - 96 in a 60, anyone know what he should expect? hopefully just £60 and 3 points? I would expect a possibly ban and a fine of at least £300. no way, you need a 100+ for a ban, no other traffic on road, isolated spot with no access for pedestrians, not even animals in fields, just one bloody speed camera van" No, you don't need to be doing 100+ to get a ban. It's far more likely at 100+ but perfectly possible at lower speeds. | |||
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" anything but points Hmmm that probably indicates that he already has points on his licence then ..... How did he get those ? ![]() Won them at bingo? | |||
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"What's that I can hear ? Is it the sound of a season bus ticket being printed ?" The sound of regret. Of being caught. | |||
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"Loving this thread. Such angels we all are ![]() ![]() ![]() I've already admitted I'm not but I wouldn't deny I was in the wrong or try to justify it if caught, so I see no problem with saying that here. | |||
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"Loving this thread. Such angels we all are ![]() ![]() ![]() I'm not saying what I got knicked doing in a 30 ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"Loving this thread. Such angels we all are ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Speeding in a 30 is particularly dickish. Not something to brag and grin about. 60 and 70 limits are one thing but a 30?! | |||
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"Loving this thread. Such angels we all are ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() As I said you do the crime I did the time my problem | |||
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"Loving this thread. Such angels we all are ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() And then brag about it and act like it's funny? | |||
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"Loving this thread. Such angels we all are ![]() ![]() ![]() I don't speed although I'm no angel. | |||
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"a friend has just been pulled over - 96 in a 60, anyone know what he should expect? hopefully just £60 and 3 points?" If he was pulled over rather than the mobile camera vans I'd guess the traffic copiers report would have some bearing on the outcome. Whatever the outcome 96 is a crazy speed in a 60 zone .. ![]() | |||
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"a friend has just been pulled over - 96 in a 60, anyone know what he should expect? hopefully just £60 and 3 points? If he was pulled over rather than the mobile camera vans I'd guess the traffic copiers report would have some bearing on the outcome. Whatever the outcome 96 is a crazy speed in a 60 zone .. ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"Loving this thread. Such angels we all are ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Put it on a discussion forum though and you know how that goes. We're all free to comment. | |||
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"a friend has just been pulled over - 96 in a 60, anyone know what he should expect? hopefully just £60 and 3 points?" No chance of that mate unless your friends a copper Mate of mine got stopped doing 94 in a 60 and got 6 points and something like 120 fine and 130 costs(or similar) without his solicitor I think he would have got a 28day ban. | |||
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"a friend has just been pulled over - 96 in a 60, anyone know what he should expect? hopefully just £60 and 3 points? If he was pulled over rather than the mobile camera vans I'd guess the traffic copiers report would have some bearing on the outcome. Whatever the outcome 96 is a crazy speed in a 60 zone .. ![]() I disagree, I know the road well, it is in Scotland, it is isolated and a long straight road where high speeds are easily achieved (140 -160) on bikes and plenty time to brake, obviously we know the dangers of speed with regards to blow outs, or deer running out, but on that specific road that's about the only problems that could occur | |||
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"a friend has just been pulled over - 96 in a 60, anyone know what he should expect? hopefully just £60 and 3 points? If he was pulled over rather than the mobile camera vans I'd guess the traffic copiers report would have some bearing on the outcome. Whatever the outcome 96 is a crazy speed in a 60 zone .. ![]() Disgusting attitude with potential catastrophic consequences for somebody else. Kill yourself - up to you. How dare you make life changing decisions for other road users . | |||
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"a friend has just been pulled over - 96 in a 60, anyone know what he should expect? hopefully just £60 and 3 points? If he was pulled over rather than the mobile camera vans I'd guess the traffic copiers report would have some bearing on the outcome. Whatever the outcome 96 is a crazy speed in a 60 zone .. ![]() Give it up mate your not going to win here or in court. Your doomed I tell you doomed ![]() | |||
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"a friend has just been pulled over - 96 in a 60, anyone know what he should expect? hopefully just £60 and 3 points? If he was pulled over rather than the mobile camera vans I'd guess the traffic copiers report would have some bearing on the outcome. Whatever the outcome 96 is a crazy speed in a 60 zone .. ![]() Plus the tens of thousands dealing with a major accident can cost and the effects on the professional people who have to pick up the pieces. Not to mention the effect on the family and friends of those involved. They're all innocent victims too. | |||
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"a friend has just been pulled over - 96 in a 60, anyone know what he should expect? hopefully just £60 and 3 points? If he was pulled over rather than the mobile camera vans I'd guess the traffic copiers report would have some bearing on the outcome. Whatever the outcome 96 is a crazy speed in a 60 zone .. ![]() If you want to do those speeds do them on a track or closed road ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"a friend has just been pulled over - 96 in a 60, anyone know what he should expect? hopefully just £60 and 3 points? If he was pulled over rather than the mobile camera vans I'd guess the traffic copiers report would have some bearing on the outcome. Whatever the outcome 96 is a crazy speed in a 60 zone .. ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"a friend has just been pulled over - 96 in a 60, anyone know what he should expect? hopefully just £60 and 3 points?" Summons, £1k tops and 56days, plus an sp30 endorsement and murder getting insurance for the next 4 years | |||
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"Six points and a hefty fine at least, I'd imagine. We can't have a situation where there's a speed limit, but "actually, the road's always quiet, so it's fine to go way faster" or similar. How would we ever decide where that was applicable or not? There's a limit, we've got to have them, it's the law, stick to it. I was done for speeding last year, so I'm no saint. Good - I was going too fast. Sorry if I've sound a bit hardline on this, but I've seen two people killed in front of me in separate incidents because someone was going too fast. " yep I was thinking similar 5 or 6 points and maybe £300 fine that's the kind of answer I was looking for, not the dictation on how he was a bad boy for going so fast, such is life cheers mate for a good answer | |||
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"...and realistically it was only 36 over speed limit.. "Only" 60%! Tbh a lot of the 60s and 70s could do with a speed limit rise to account for the fact rhat cars are way more capable than the ones that where around when the speed limits where written. 30s though need to stay at 30 because of the possibility of a pedestrian being struck with no chance of the driver being able to break so its a damage mitigation thing there I agree, however, exceeding the limit by 60% can't realistically be described using "only". 60% isn't a small margin. Courts will see 60% as a lot, not "only" anything. Depends really as the guy who said it is a biker, ona straight empty country road the differnce between 60 and 96 is a twist of a fraction of an inch and about 1.5 seconds. So for him "only" is quite valid lol. Whilst I see your point, I disagree. 60% over a limit is not marginal. Bikes are fast, yes, but bikers or drivers, if they are on the road, should be capable of sticking to the speed limit. I had a car that did 0-60 in 4.8s for a while. 60 to 96 could be achieved quite quickly; not as fast as some bikes, but pretty rapidly nonetheless. I never considered it "only" 60% over the limit, even when I sometimes exceeded the limit by much more than that. yes and no, my MV - F4 needs a speed of roughly 70-80mph to keep the cooling temp running fine, any slower and you watch the temp slowly rise, okay the fans cut in but its still a hot running bike. but im going off on a tangent; Is it correct you can request a speed awareness course instead of points, and if so, how do you apply for this .yes you csn take the course if you're only a small amount over the limit. For a 60 the cut off is 75mph. For 96 he is going to court can you request this at court, or by letter before court, or get a solicitor to request anything but points" For that speed not a hope in hell. Hed be incredibly lucky to get just 3 points 6 a minimum really | |||
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"a friend has just been pulled over - 96 in a 60, anyone know what he should expect? hopefully just £60 and 3 points? I would expect a possibly ban and a fine of at least £300. no way, you need a 100+ for a ban, no other traffic on road, isolated spot with no access for pedestrians, not even animals in fields, just one bloody speed camera van" 100+ for a ban is on a motorway 30mph+ of speed limit | |||
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"a friend has just been pulled over - 96 in a 60, anyone know what he should expect? hopefully just £60 and 3 points?" Opinions are like assholes, everyone has one. Now it's all down to sentencing guidelines and probabilities and luck on the day. He was 4 mph short of at automatic ban unless you show extenuating circumstances which means you turn up with a barrister, not solicitor. The mags will sit there and assume the accused *already* got a break from the scamera guys at *only* being ticketed at 96 A *good* barrister *may* be able to make something out of the poor car driver terrified by all the crazy motorcycles and he put his foot down to avoid a crash. I'd be expecting all of the following; 1/ a hefty fine 2/ a hefty surcharge for victim compensation (i know I know, they all do it now, an legal way of increasing fines beyond guidelines, guvvmint's broke innit) 3/ a hefty set of points, like 6 or more 4/ a temporary ban, 30 / 60 / 90 days If your mate drives for a living remember to include this, a hefty set of points will make his driving job untenable for company insurance purposes, so get fined as a broke newly unemployed and not a employed wage earner My own personal opinion is at 38 mph over a 60 or 28 mph over nsl (we don't know the road, guessing it was an A road so 60) you do NOT want to try and get cute and end up pissing them off. My own personal opinion is you need expert legal advice sooner rather than later, your story is full of holes, eg was he caught by a scamera, or was he pulled over, two different things with two different approaches. Too late to get wise on the day in court. 98 mph it *will* be a court appearance. | |||
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"a friend has just been pulled over - 96 in a 60, anyone know what he should expect? hopefully just £60 and 3 points? Opinions are like assholes, everyone has one. Now it's all down to sentencing guidelines and probabilities and luck on the day. He was 4 mph short of at automatic ban unless you show extenuating circumstances which means you turn up with a barrister, not solicitor. The mags will sit there and assume the accused *already* got a break from the scamera guys at *only* being ticketed at 96 A *good* barrister *may* be able to make something out of the poor car driver terrified by all the crazy motorcycles and he put his foot down to avoid a crash. I'd be expecting all of the following; 1/ a hefty fine 2/ a hefty surcharge for victim compensation (i know I know, they all do it now, an legal way of increasing fines beyond guidelines, guvvmint's broke innit) 3/ a hefty set of points, like 6 or more 4/ a temporary ban, 30 / 60 / 90 days If your mate drives for a living remember to include this, a hefty set of points will make his driving job untenable for company insurance purposes, so get fined as a broke newly unemployed and not a employed wage earner My own personal opinion is at 38 mph over a 60 or 28 mph over nsl (we don't know the road, guessing it was an A road so 60) you do NOT want to try and get cute and end up pissing them off. My own personal opinion is you need expert legal advice sooner rather than later, your story is full of holes, eg was he caught by a scamera, or was he pulled over, two different things with two different approaches. Too late to get wise on the day in court. 98 mph it *will* be a court appearance." The OP says it was 96, not 98 and in a 60, so we do know the speed limit of the road. Also, there were no bikes for the driver to be alarmed by. Great advice but not all based on the correct facts. | |||
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"a friend has just been pulled over - 96 in a 60, anyone know what he should expect? hopefully just £60 and 3 points? Opinions are like assholes, everyone has one. Now it's all down to sentencing guidelines and probabilities and luck on the day. He was 4 mph short of at automatic ban unless you show extenuating circumstances which means you turn up with a barrister, not solicitor. The mags will sit there and assume the accused *already* got a break from the scamera guys at *only* being ticketed at 96 A *good* barrister *may* be able to make something out of the poor car driver terrified by all the crazy motorcycles and he put his foot down to avoid a crash. I'd be expecting all of the following; 1/ a hefty fine 2/ a hefty surcharge for victim compensation (i know I know, they all do it now, an legal way of increasing fines beyond guidelines, guvvmint's broke innit) 3/ a hefty set of points, like 6 or more 4/ a temporary ban, 30 / 60 / 90 days If your mate drives for a living remember to include this, a hefty set of points will make his driving job untenable for company insurance purposes, so get fined as a broke newly unemployed and not a employed wage earner My own personal opinion is at 38 mph over a 60 or 28 mph over nsl (we don't know the road, guessing it was an A road so 60) you do NOT want to try and get cute and end up pissing them off. My own personal opinion is you need expert legal advice sooner rather than later, your story is full of holes, eg was he caught by a scamera, or was he pulled over, two different things with two different approaches. Too late to get wise on the day in court. 98 mph it *will* be a court appearance." The max temp ban you can get is 56 days | |||
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"60mph limit = 61-80 3 points + endorsement 81-90 4-6 points 7-28 days + endorsement 91+ 6 point 28-56 days +endorsement " You don't get points and the ban, it's one or the other Endorsement is another word for points | |||
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"Maybe count himself lucky it was "only" 96 mph. Doesn't anything over a ton result in a ban?" That's on a motorway, on a 60 he can get a ban | |||
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"a friend has just been pulled over - 96 in a 60, anyone know what he should expect? hopefully just £60 and 3 points?" Definitely 6 points and a court appearance. I got that for 75 in a 30 on my bike. | |||
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"Oh whatever you do in court do not say anything along the lines of what you have here about it being common for pwople to speed there or it bwing a dafe road for it etc. That doesn't say mitigation, that says "i do this reguarly". Wnd will get you harsher punishment. The line is alwayd you're an idiot and you're very sorry and have really learned your lesson" agree I am trying to convince him to be like myself and drive 10 miles below speed limit it does piss people off when im in a 20 limit, but better safe than sorry | |||
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"I hope they throw the book at him. 96 mph in a 60 zone is a totally irresponsible speed and shows a deliberate flouting of the law. " when you are doing speeds of 150/60+ and you slow down to a ton, you feel like you are riding at 30 . . well; so I have been told!!! . I wouldn't know | |||
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"...and realistically it was only 36 over speed limit.. "Only" 60%! Tbh a lot of the 60s and 70s could do with a speed limit rise to account for the fact rhat cars are way more capable than the ones that where around when the speed limits where written. 30s though need to stay at 30 because of the possibility of a pedestrian being struck with no chance of the driver being able to break so its a damage mitigation thing there" car technology may gave improved but not human reactions, judgement, metality or attitudes. | |||
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"Oh whatever you do in court do not say anything along the lines of what you have here about it being common for pwople to speed there or it bwing a dafe road for it etc. That doesn't say mitigation, that says "i do this reguarly". Wnd will get you harsher punishment. The line is alwayd you're an idiot and you're very sorry and have really learned your lesson" ***THIS*** I have a mate who "got away" with 30 over the limit with 3 points and a 150 quid fine. He told the court he was glad he was there, it was a new car to him and he simply did not realise it went so fast so easily and so silently, and he was selling it and buying an older car, and he was thankful that he was in court "only" for a speeding offence and not for being in a serious accident and injuring or killing someone. It was total bollocks, but he knew he was caught and put the best face on it, and put the speed limited on and set it at 80 mph. Those of you with modern enough cars to have adaptive speed cruise control and / or a speed LIMITER, really, setting the limiter at 80 for motorways and 65 for A roads and using adaptive for everything else is the way to avoid 99.99% of all speeding offences. | |||
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"Oh whatever you do in court do not say anything along the lines of what you have here about it being common for pwople to speed there or it bwing a dafe road for it etc. That doesn't say mitigation, that says "i do this reguarly". Wnd will get you harsher punishment. The line is alwayd you're an idiot and you're very sorry and have really learned your lesson ***THIS*** I have a mate who "got away" with 30 over the limit with 3 points and a 150 quid fine. He told the court he was glad he was there, it was a new car to him and he simply did not realise it went so fast so easily and so silently, and he was selling it and buying an older car, and he was thankful that he was in court "only" for a speeding offence and not for being in a serious accident and injuring or killing someone. It was total bollocks, but he knew he was caught and put the best face on it, and put the speed limited on and set it at 80 mph. Those of you with modern enough cars to have adaptive speed cruise control and / or a speed LIMITER, really, setting the limiter at 80 for motorways and 65 for A roads and using adaptive for everything else is the way to avoid 99.99% of all speeding offences." Bits it's 70 and 60, the odd 10% is there for a safty margin not to drive at ![]() | |||
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"a friend has just been pulled over - 96 in a 60, anyone know what he should expect? hopefully just £60 and 3 points? 100 quid minimum fine now. And for 96 in a sixy its gonna be at least 6 points and probbaly a few hundred quid. Depending on any agrivating factors it was coming out of a few corners then onto a long straight, on the bikes we hit that road real fast, just as well he was in car and realistically it was only 36 over speed limit not taking into account speedo adjustment That's an interesting use of the word 'only'. It was more than half as much again as the speed limit. Someone I know got killed by a tosser who was 'only' a few miles over the speed limit. " Quite correct. If you were on a driving test, would you go over the speed limit and explain it's just a bit over, would you pass? | |||
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"a friend has just been pulled over - 96 in a 60, anyone know what he should expect? hopefully just £60 and 3 points? If he was pulled over rather than the mobile camera vans I'd guess the traffic copiers report would have some bearing on the outcome. Whatever the outcome 96 is a crazy speed in a 60 zone .. ![]() i find your attitude shocking! Your willing to put other road users at risk for your personal enjoyment. Jill or maim others for life on your judgement. There!s been countless programs on tv about people like you and still you 'know better' I don't care if you kill or maim yourself. It's your potential victims i feel sorry for. You mug! | |||
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"a friend has just been pulled over - 96 in a 60, anyone know what he should expect? hopefully just £60 and 3 points?" Maybe you should let your friend know how terribly irresponsible he was.speed limits are there for a reason. | |||
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"a friend has just been pulled over - 96 in a 60, anyone know what he should expect? hopefully just £60 and 3 points?" Hopefully a ban ![]() | |||
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"a friend has just been pulled over - 96 in a 60, anyone know what he should expect? hopefully just £60 and 3 points?" How can anyone justify exceeding the speed limit by this amount ?. I think it will be an appearance in court. | |||
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"a friend has just been pulled over - 96 in a 60, anyone know what he should expect? hopefully just £60 and 3 points? 100 quid minimum fine now. And for 96 in a sixy its gonna be at least 6 points and probbaly a few hundred quid. Depending on any agrivating factors it was coming out of a few corners then onto a long straight, on the bikes we hit that road real fast, just as well he was in car and realistically it was only 36 over speed limit not taking into account speedo adjustment That's an interesting use of the word 'only'. It was more than half as much again as the speed limit. Someone I know got killed by a tosser who was 'only' a few miles over the speed limit. " I have no sympathy for those who choose to ignore the speed limits .. | |||
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"Hi as an ex police officer at that speed you can almost be sure of a ban." At least that is reassuring because I cannot think of any justification for breaking the limit by the amount that he did . | |||
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"a friend has just been pulled over - 96 in a 60, anyone know what he should expect? hopefully just £60 and 3 points? How can anyone justify exceeding the speed limit by this amount ?. I think it will be an appearance in court. " it would be lovely if the judge was a fabber,and had been reading these posts and saw what the twats attitude was like (dons the black cap) | |||
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"a friend has just been pulled over - 96 in a 60, anyone know what he should expect? hopefully just £60 and 3 points?" Your friend's an idiot. No excuses. Deserves a ban. | |||
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"we have just come back after a week away, and as an experiment I decided to play with the speed limiter rather than the cruise control. and set the trip to MPG. I have to admit sometimes my speed does creep up past the legal limit, but no worries with the limiter set ![]() Yup, not only does every 5 mph over 60 start drinking the fuel, but a constant speed vs speeding up and slowing down all the time also makes a big big difference. I also found (did 1000-1500 miles a week in that job) that adaptive cruise control + speed limiter made for a much much more relaxing drive... I'd get back having run only one or two off the road before shooting them and setting fire to their car. | |||
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"a friend has just been pulled over - 96 in a 60, anyone know what he should expect? hopefully just £60 and 3 points? I would expect a possibly ban and a fine of at least £300. no way, you need a 100+ for a ban, no other traffic on road, isolated spot with no access for pedestrians, not even animals in fields, just one bloody speed camera van No, you don't need to be doing 100+ to get a ban. It's far more likely at 100+ but perfectly possible at lower speeds." 100+ on a motorway is an instant ban, on normal roads it's a sliding scale depending on the speed limit. | |||
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"I work as a driver trainer. If I got any points i have to notify the DVLA and they will tell me im not a fit and proper person to do my job. I might get away with 33 in a 30 mph area but 96 in a 60 mph zone and I would be unemployed as well as a ban and stiff fine." I have done an advanced driving test and in addition have lgv and psv licences . I do not drive for a living. I prefer to show consideration for other road users by sticking to the speeds than thinking that I can drive an whatever speed I like. | |||
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"a friend has just been pulled over - 96 in a 60, anyone know what he should expect? hopefully just £60 and 3 points? If he was pulled over rather than the mobile camera vans I'd guess the traffic copiers report would have some bearing on the outcome. Whatever the outcome 96 is a crazy speed in a 60 zone .. ![]() lol, good job he was in his motor then and not on his bike, the road in question is a great road for biking at high speeds ![]() | |||
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"...and realistically it was only 36 over speed limit.. "Only" 60%! Tbh a lot of the 60s and 70s could do with a speed limit rise to account for the fact rhat cars are way more capable than the ones that where around when the speed limits where written. 30s though need to stay at 30 because of the possibility of a pedestrian being struck with no chance of the driver being able to break so its a damage mitigation thing there" whilst the cars may be alot more capable the vast majority of licence holders are not leave them as they are | |||
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"a friend has just been pulled over - 96 in a 60, anyone know what he should expect? hopefully just £60 and 3 points?" Anything above 30mph over the speed limit can easily lead to a ban as well as a fine. | |||
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"Was this in Scotland? Scottish law is different And before you say I'm talking rubbish…when you get a legal qualification in England…you can't transfer it to Scotland…in Scotland you're totally unqualified. Because Scottish law is different to England & Wales…I have a feeling the OP lives & works in Scotland " You are absolutely correct, it was a Scottish road just South of Knockhill race circuit, he was coming out of a long sweeping bend (great for getting the knee down on a bike) and heading onto the long straight which is great for high speeds, | |||
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"So, 3 weeks on, what was the outcome for your friend???" wont know until September | |||
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"a friend has just been pulled over - 96 in a 60, anyone know what he should expect? hopefully just £60 and 3 points? I would expect a possibly ban and a fine of at least £300. no way, you need a 100+ for a ban, no other traffic on road, isolated spot with no access for pedestrians, not even animals in fields, just one bloody speed camera van" ![]() | |||
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"Hopefully he will get a ban. I cant believe your trying to justify it. Its not like he was doing 35 in a 30 mile limit. Thankfully hes only got to worry about the size of his fine and not walk round with someones death on his conscionce for the rest of his life. Or maybe he would of told the family he was "only" 36 miles over the speed limit" know the road well do you you get anyone walking on that road and they are lost or walking with a fuel can its a road that you can easily achieve 160+ on a bike, that is, if one wished, 96 is a breeze on that road | |||
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"Hopefully he will get a ban. I cant believe your trying to justify it. Its not like he was doing 35 in a 30 mile limit. Thankfully hes only got to worry about the size of his fine and not walk round with someones death on his conscionce for the rest of his life. Or maybe he would of told the family he was "only" 36 miles over the speed limit know the road well do you you get anyone walking on that road and they are lost or walking with a fuel can its a road that you can easily achieve 160+ on a bike, that is, if one wished, 96 is a breeze on that road" 96 might be a breeze ...itis also an offence .. tell your mate to try the I've been faster on a bike defense. Let us know how he gets on ![]() | |||
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"just sticking up for a buddy as it seems all comments on here are Londoners or built up cities who have no idea what a country road is or how to drive on one" Judging by your moronic post preceding this one I think it's obvious to most that you are the one with no clue how to drive on these roads ![]() | |||
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"just sticking up for a buddy as it seems all comments on here are Londoners or built up cities who have no idea what a country road is or how to drive on one" i actually live in the middle of the countryside. You know those country roads where you see flowers on the roadside where people have been killed. in fact a 53 year old wad killed on his mototbike only last week. You should be ashamed of the fact you see no wrong in what your friend did | |||
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"just sticking up for a buddy as it seems all comments on here are Londoners or built up cities who have no idea what a country road is or how to drive on onei actually live in the middle of the countryside. You know those country roads where you see flowers on the roadside where people have been killed. in fact a 53 year old wad killed on his mototbike only last week. You should be ashamed of the fact you see no wrong in what your friend did" I said it further up the post , these type of threads always have the op trying to defend the act and justify what was a criminal offense, if the road was just south of knockhill, your mate could have himself a track day maybe a lesson or two with an instructor and learn how to drive at speed in a safe environment for both him and other road users, rather than using public roads for his own version of a race track. | |||
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"Hopefully he will get a ban. I cant believe your trying to justify it. Its not like he was doing 35 in a 30 mile limit. Thankfully hes only got to worry about the size of his fine and not walk round with someones death on his conscionce for the rest of his life. Or maybe he would of told the family he was "only" 36 miles over the speed limit know the road well do you you get anyone walking on that road and they are lost or walking with a fuel can its a road that you can easily achieve 160+ on a bike, that is, if one wished, 96 is a breeze on that road" The fact remains that the speed limit is 70 and his powers of observation must be extremely poor if he failed to notice the camera van. | |||
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"just sticking up for a buddy as it seems all comments on here are Londoners or built up cities who have no idea what a country road is or how to drive on one" Not many people seem to have been caught themselves, most seem to be 'asking for a friend' ![]() | |||
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"I was clocked last year at 61 as was overtaking in a 50mph dual carriageway which went down to a 30mph and they got me exactly on the 30 sign as I was braking. Police agreed the 30 zone starts way too early for the road and it was a Sunday morning and no other traffic around but I went to court with a solicitor and held my hands up as I'd done wrong. I got 6 points and £300 in fine and court costs plus £200 for the solicitor. The court was clear I only escaped a ban due to being a single disabled parent and if I got a ban I would lose my job. Lesson learnt the hard way ![]() I really fail to see why potential inconvenience should ever be a factor in sentencing. And if it must then surely the punishment should be 9 points so any infringement in the next year results in a ban. Courts need to remember that driving is a privelege and not an automatic right | |||
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" I said it further up the post , these type of threads always have the op trying to defend the act and justify what was a criminal offense, if the road was just south of knockhill, your mate could have himself a track day maybe a lesson or two with an instructor and learn how to drive at speed in a safe environment for both him and other road users, rather than using public roads for his own version of a race track. " We are all regulars at Knockhill mate and on your comment above what speed would you consider safe on the IoM mountain road? Would you be justified there to ride 120? 140? 160+ just curious on your view | |||
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" I said it further up the post , these type of threads always have the op trying to defend the act and justify what was a criminal offense, if the road was just south of knockhill, your mate could have himself a track day maybe a lesson or two with an instructor and learn how to drive at speed in a safe environment for both him and other road users, rather than using public roads for his own version of a race track. We are all regulars at Knockhill mate and on your comment above what speed would you consider safe on the IoM mountain road? Would you be justified there to ride 120? 140? 160+ just curious on your view" Excellent pleased you use a circuit , you'll not be getting points, bans or speeding fines on there.. We're not talking about the iom, .., were talking about a road in Scotland. ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"I'm a biker and have had the pleasure to ride most of the uk. Your mate is an idiot and deserves a ban. The is no biker that will live long that does 160 in a 60. The fact that you are sticking up for for "friend" makes you deluded. You should both grow up before you kill someone! " he is 56, he has been biking 40 years and actually we have all slowed down from our younger days, seems everyone here drives around with hallows over their heads, all trying to be high and mighty, bet the majority of you still use a mobile phone whilst driving or tune in sat nav, drink or eat at the wheel, fact is, you don't know the road, we do | |||
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" I said it further up the post , these type of threads always have the op trying to defend the act and justify what was a criminal offense, if the road was just south of knockhill, your mate could have himself a track day maybe a lesson or two with an instructor and learn how to drive at speed in a safe environment for both him and other road users, rather than using public roads for his own version of a race track. We are all regulars at Knockhill mate and on your comment above what speed would you consider safe on the IoM mountain road? Would you be justified there to ride 120? 140? 160+ just curious on your view Excellent pleased you use a circuit , you'll not be getting points, bans or speeding fines on there.. We're not talking about the iom, .., were talking about a road in Scotland. ![]() ![]() ![]() so is the IoM mountain track road safer than the one in question, I can assure you it is not, again remove your bloody hallow ![]() | |||
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"I'm a biker and have had the pleasure to ride most of the uk. Your mate is an idiot and deserves a ban. The is no biker that will live long that does 160 in a 60. The fact that you are sticking up for for "friend" makes you deluded. You should both grow up before you kill someone! he is 56, he has been biking 40 years and actually we have all slowed down from our younger days, seems everyone here drives around with hallows over their heads, all trying to be high and mighty, bet the majority of you still use a mobile phone whilst driving or tune in sat nav, drink or eat at the wheel, fact is, you don't know the road, we do" We all break the odd road law, thou I have never used a phone driving, having said that doing what 96 in a 60 is just nuts, end of. | |||
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" I said it further up the post , these type of threads always have the op trying to defend the act and justify what was a criminal offense, if the road was just south of knockhill, your mate could have himself a track day maybe a lesson or two with an instructor and learn how to drive at speed in a safe environment for both him and other road users, rather than using public roads for his own version of a race track. We are all regulars at Knockhill mate and on your comment above what speed would you consider safe on the IoM mountain road? Would you be justified there to ride 120? 140? 160+ just curious on your view Excellent pleased you use a circuit , you'll not be getting points, bans or speeding fines on there.. We're not talking about the iom, .., were talking about a road in Scotland. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() My halo ![]() ![]() | |||
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" I said it further up the post , these type of threads always have the op trying to defend the act and justify what was a criminal offense, if the road was just south of knockhill, your mate could have himself a track day maybe a lesson or two with an instructor and learn how to drive at speed in a safe environment for both him and other road users, rather than using public roads for his own version of a race track. We are all regulars at Knockhill mate and on your comment above what speed would you consider safe on the IoM mountain road? Would you be justified there to ride 120? 140? 160+ just curious on your view" couple of points no speed awareness in Scotland, that's an English thing secondly whats the speed limit on the mountain on the IoM | |||
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"...and realistically it was only 36 over speed limit.. "Only" 60%! Tbh a lot of the 60s and 70s could do with a speed limit rise to account for the fact rhat cars are way more capable than the ones that where around when the speed limits where written. 30s though need to stay at 30 because of the possibility of a pedestrian being struck with no chance of the driver being able to break so its a damage mitigation thing there I agree, but it isn't, so he shouldn't. I agree, I'm just debating the point about "only". Cause speed is rarely a causal factor but an agrivating factor when you look at the stats. Generaly the people who are the most risk i find are only going about 5-10mph as they pull out on you lol I realise it was over the limit, but some on bikes hit 140+ guess that's why the police trap was there" It's not a trap.... | |||
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"Hopefully he will get a ban. I cant believe your trying to justify it. Its not like he was doing 35 in a 30 mile limit. Thankfully hes only got to worry about the size of his fine and not walk round with someones death on his conscionce for the rest of his life. Or maybe he would of told the family he was "only" 36 miles over the speed limit know the road well do you you get anyone walking on that road and they are lost or walking with a fuel can its a road that you can easily achieve 160+ on a bike, that is, if one wished, 96 is a breeze on that road" thats gone up by 20mph in the last 3 weeks.....i sense a little goading and embellishment of the truth us happening here to get a reaction. | |||
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" I said it further up the post , these type of threads always have the op trying to defend the act and justify what was a criminal offense, if the road was just south of knockhill, your mate could have himself a track day maybe a lesson or two with an instructor and learn how to drive at speed in a safe environment for both him and other road users, rather than using public roads for his own version of a race track. We are all regulars at Knockhill mate and on your comment above what speed would you consider safe on the IoM mountain road? Would you be justified there to ride 120? 140? 160+ just curious on your view Excellent pleased you use a circuit , you'll not be getting points, bans or speeding fines on there.. We're not talking about the iom, .., were talking about a road in Scotland. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() is the IOM road closed when the race is on and the drivers are racing at speed? | |||
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"op, you really are a knob." perhaps, but I do have a flat slim waistline ![]() | |||
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" I said it further up the post , these type of threads always have the op trying to defend the act and justify what was a criminal offense, if the road was just south of knockhill, your mate could have himself a track day maybe a lesson or two with an instructor and learn how to drive at speed in a safe environment for both him and other road users, rather than using public roads for his own version of a race track. We are all regulars at Knockhill mate and on your comment above what speed would you consider safe on the IoM mountain road? Would you be justified there to ride 120? 140? 160+ just curious on your view couple of points no speed awareness in Scotland, that's an English thing secondly whats the speed limit on the mountain on the IoM" no speed awareness in Scotland, not so good, oh well, that plan is out of the window. IoM speed limit: there isn't one. ![]() | |||
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"Hopefully he will get a ban. I cant believe your trying to justify it. Its not like he was doing 35 in a 30 mile limit. Thankfully hes only got to worry about the size of his fine and not walk round with someones death on his conscionce for the rest of his life. Or maybe he would of told the family he was "only" 36 miles over the speed limit know the road well do you you get anyone walking on that road and they are lost or walking with a fuel can its a road that you can easily achieve 160+ on a bike, that is, if one wished, 96 is a breeze on that road thats gone up by 20mph in the last 3 weeks.....i sense a little goading and embellishment of the truth us happening here to get a reaction. " Sadly I think the OP thinks some people are impresses by this crap | |||
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"Hopefully he will get a ban. I cant believe your trying to justify it. Its not like he was doing 35 in a 30 mile limit. Thankfully hes only got to worry about the size of his fine and not walk round with someones death on his conscionce for the rest of his life. Or maybe he would of told the family he was "only" 36 miles over the speed limit know the road well do you you get anyone walking on that road and they are lost or walking with a fuel can its a road that you can easily achieve 160+ on a bike, that is, if one wished, 96 is a breeze on that road thats gone up by 20mph in the last 3 weeks.....i sense a little goading and embellishment of the truth us happening here to get a reaction. " indeed, some would say not an achievable speed on a fireblade or a F4 EV03, but a 312R is a different story ![]() ![]() | |||
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"Hopefully he will get a ban. I cant believe your trying to justify it. Its not like he was doing 35 in a 30 mile limit. Thankfully hes only got to worry about the size of his fine and not walk round with someones death on his conscionce for the rest of his life. Or maybe he would of told the family he was "only" 36 miles over the speed limit know the road well do you you get anyone walking on that road and they are lost or walking with a fuel can its a road that you can easily achieve 160+ on a bike, that is, if one wished, 96 is a breeze on that road thats gone up by 20mph in the last 3 weeks.....i sense a little goading and embellishment of the truth us happening here to get a reaction. Sadly I think the OP thinks some people are impresses by this crap" well it is good to know you can think, well done for that, strange how you cant resist commenting ![]() | |||
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"Hopefully he will get a ban. I cant believe your trying to justify it. Its not like he was doing 35 in a 30 mile limit. Thankfully hes only got to worry about the size of his fine and not walk round with someones death on his conscionce for the rest of his life. Or maybe he would of told the family he was "only" 36 miles over the speed limit know the road well do you you get anyone walking on that road and they are lost or walking with a fuel can its a road that you can easily achieve 160+ on a bike, that is, if one wished, 96 is a breeze on that road thats gone up by 20mph in the last 3 weeks.....i sense a little goading and embellishment of the truth us happening here to get a reaction. indeed, some would say not an achievable speed on a fireblade or a F4 EV03, but a 312R is a different story ![]() ![]() some probably wouldnt give a crap to be honest....so not impressed by excessive speed and wheels zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz | |||
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"op, you really are a knob. perhaps, but I do have a flat slim waistline ![]() And I can also have one when I decide to, I am afraid you're going to be a knob for the rest of your days. | |||
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"Hopefully he will get a ban. I cant believe your trying to justify it. Its not like he was doing 35 in a 30 mile limit. Thankfully hes only got to worry about the size of his fine and not walk round with someones death on his conscionce for the rest of his life. Or maybe he would of told the family he was "only" 36 miles over the speed limit know the road well do you you get anyone walking on that road and they are lost or walking with a fuel can its a road that you can easily achieve 160+ on a bike, that is, if one wished, 96 is a breeze on that road thats gone up by 20mph in the last 3 weeks.....i sense a little goading and embellishment of the truth us happening here to get a reaction. Sadly I think the OP thinks some people are impresses by this crap well it is good to know you can think, well done for that, strange how you cant resist commenting ![]() It's a forum. People comment. People that drive like idiots, dismiss the laws and believe they pose no danger disgust me. Maybe you should stop and think why there are no comments sympathising with your friend? | |||
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"Hopefully he will get a ban. I cant believe your trying to justify it. Its not like he was doing 35 in a 30 mile limit. Thankfully hes only got to worry about the size of his fine and not walk round with someones death on his conscionce for the rest of his life. Or maybe he would of told the family he was "only" 36 miles over the speed limit know the road well do you you get anyone walking on that road and they are lost or walking with a fuel can its a road that you can easily achieve 160+ on a bike, that is, if one wished, 96 is a breeze on that road thats gone up by 20mph in the last 3 weeks.....i sense a little goading and embellishment of the truth us happening here to get a reaction. indeed, some would say not an achievable speed on a fireblade or a F4 EV03, but a 312R is a different story ![]() ![]() your "friend" was in a car. If you seriously think you can justify his actions you need to give your head a wobble | |||
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"Hopefully he will get a ban. I cant believe your trying to justify it. Its not like he was doing 35 in a 30 mile limit. Thankfully hes only got to worry about the size of his fine and not walk round with someones death on his conscionce for the rest of his life. Or maybe he would of told the family he was "only" 36 miles over the speed limit know the road well do you you get anyone walking on that road and they are lost or walking with a fuel can its a road that you can easily achieve 160+ on a bike, that is, if one wished, 96 is a breeze on that road thats gone up by 20mph in the last 3 weeks.....i sense a little goading and embellishment of the truth us happening here to get a reaction. Sadly I think the OP thinks some people are impresses by this crap well it is good to know you can think, well done for that, strange how you cant resist commenting ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"Hopefully he will get a ban. I cant believe your trying to justify it. Its not like he was doing 35 in a 30 mile limit. Thankfully hes only got to worry about the size of his fine and not walk round with someones death on his conscionce for the rest of his life. Or maybe he would of told the family he was "only" 36 miles over the speed limit know the road well do you you get anyone walking on that road and they are lost or walking with a fuel can its a road that you can easily achieve 160+ on a bike, that is, if one wished, 96 is a breeze on that road thats gone up by 20mph in the last 3 weeks.....i sense a little goading and embellishment of the truth us happening here to get a reaction. indeed, some would say not an achievable speed on a fireblade or a F4 EV03, but a 312R is a different story ![]() ![]() it wasn't a car, it was a Toyota Hilux invincible, great 4x4's take you anyplace, ![]() | |||
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"Hopefully he will get a ban. I cant believe your trying to justify it. Its not like he was doing 35 in a 30 mile limit. Thankfully hes only got to worry about the size of his fine and not walk round with someones death on his conscionce for the rest of his life. Or maybe he would of told the family he was "only" 36 miles over the speed limit know the road well do you you get anyone walking on that road and they are lost or walking with a fuel can its a road that you can easily achieve 160+ on a bike, that is, if one wished, 96 is a breeze on that road thats gone up by 20mph in the last 3 weeks.....i sense a little goading and embellishment of the truth us happening here to get a reaction. indeed, some would say not an achievable speed on a fireblade or a F4 EV03, but a 312R is a different story ![]() ![]() ![]() Including local court it would seem ![]() | |||
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"Hopefully he will get a ban. I cant believe your trying to justify it. Its not like he was doing 35 in a 30 mile limit. Thankfully hes only got to worry about the size of his fine and not walk round with someones death on his conscionce for the rest of his life. Or maybe he would of told the family he was "only" 36 miles over the speed limit know the road well do you you get anyone walking on that road and they are lost or walking with a fuel can its a road that you can easily achieve 160+ on a bike, that is, if one wished, 96 is a breeze on that road thats gone up by 20mph in the last 3 weeks.....i sense a little goading and embellishment of the truth us happening here to get a reaction. indeed, some would say not an achievable speed on a fireblade or a F4 EV03, but a 312R is a different story ![]() ![]() ![]() you called it a car earlier, this story is getting so fabricated now next he will have been cruising over the road in a helicopter. I sincerly hope he gets a ban then it wont be taking him anywhere for awhile. | |||
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"it was coming out of a few corners then onto a long straight, on the bikes we hit that road real fast, just as well he was in car and realistically it was only 36 over speed limit not taking into account speedo adjustment One final embellishment from the op it would seem....he stated it was a car in his second post on the thread yet now it's morphed into a Hilux pick up truck.... " well you do call them cars although they are realistically classified as a van, and in turn have low road tax | |||
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"Speeding fines....grrr Cops do it all the time..frikin hypocritical leaches..." They are of course trained and regularly assessed to drive at high speed. They're also trained in forward planning, observation, car control, awareness, hazard perception, and emergency manouvres et al. Whereas joe public...... is frequently an irresistible clueless numpty. | |||
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" it wasn't a car, it was a Toyota Hilux invincible, great 4x4's take you anyplace, ![]() Oh why didn't you say earlier this changes everything. ![]() | |||
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""Speeding fines....grrr Cops do it all the time..frikin hypocritical leaches..." They are of course trained and regularly assessed to drive at high speed. They're also trained in forward planning, observation, car control, awareness, hazard perception, and emergency manouvres et al. Whereas joe public...... is frequently an irresistible clueless numpty" Police are also course trained in firearms, that don't make them experts or mean they are a good shot!!!!! | |||
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"Personally I have been caught a few times speeding, have done a driver awareness course and still got caught but each time I do I am humble in my acceptance of the fact that I broke the law" It's people like you that end up killing people, you speed, get caught and yet you openly admit you speed again, you have no shame, and you continue to speed absolutely disgraceful, learn from your mistakes or quit driving | |||
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