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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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There has been an increase in racist incidents reported in the news in the wake of the referendum.
Some state that the decision has emboldened racist elements in society, who now believe that it's become legitimate to be a bigot.
Examples of this are the anti polish notices posted through people's doors in Cambridge
And the incident on a Manchester tram where a group of youths used racist insults and threatening behaviour against a foreigner.
Not to mention the Facebook campaign to bring back the golly*** which stated now we have voted leave can we let this fella back in.
What are people's opinions on this |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"There has been an increase in racist incidents reported in the news in the wake of the referendum.
Some state that the decision has emboldened racist elements in society, who now believe that it's become legitimate to be a bigot.
Examples of this are the anti polish notices posted through people's doors in Cambridge
And the incident on a Manchester tram where a group of youths used racist insults and threatening behaviour against a foreigner.
Not to mention the Facebook campaign to bring back the golly*** which stated now we have voted leave can we let this fella back in.
What are people's opinions on this"
What the heck do you expect the opinions to be? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"what the hell has a gollywog got to do with anything?
why bring a jamjar into conversation???"
Basically though it's a tiny fraction of society, leaving and an emboldened UKIP voice have given racist and xenophobes within our society the notion that 'political correctness' is no longer a thing. In other words, these people with these sentiments feel as though they no longer have to confine their opinions to internet rantings and their thoughts.
It doesn't help that Farage is currently riding the out vote gravy train in Brussels and gloating to the EU commission -rather than actually getting British society which listened to him under control. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"what the hell has a gollywog got to do with anything?
why bring a jamjar into conversation???"
I'm not bringing a jamjar into it but the gollywog on the lable is considered to be racist.
I was just making the point that Facebook made the assertion that now we have voted leave an artifact that many consider a representation of racial oppression is now ok again. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"There has been an increase in racist incidents reported in the news in the wake of the referendum.
Some state that the decision has emboldened racist elements in society, who now believe that it's become legitimate to be a bigot.
Examples of this are the anti polish notices posted through people's doors in Cambridge
And the incident on a Manchester tram where a group of youths used racist insults and threatening behaviour against a foreigner.
Not to mention the Facebook campaign to bring back the golly*** which stated now we have voted leave can we let this fella back in.
What are people's opinions on this
What the heck do you expect the opinions to be?"
I imagine OP hopes the level headed people on the leave side will join him in condemning sentiments which, if they belong anywhere, either belong in Britain's Imperial days, or up the arses of racists themselves. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"what the hell has a gollywog got to do with anything?
why bring a jamjar into conversation???
I'm not bringing a jamjar into it but the gollywog on the lable is considered to be racist.
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who considers it as racist |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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are you sure the media isnt just pubicising these events more since the Vote Leave To try And Cause More Tensions......,
Problems dont occur Overnight There has Long Been Tension within the Uk |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"what the hell has a gollywog got to do with anything?
why bring a jamjar into conversation???
I'm not bringing a jamjar into it but the gollywog on the lable is considered to be racist.
Poor old golly was put on jars long before racism was invented leaving the EU hasn't increased it just a few nutters who are looking for an excuse to harass and beat up innocent people
I was just making the point that Facebook made the assertion that now we have voted leave an artifact that many consider a representation of racial oppression is now ok again. "
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"are you sure the media isnt just pubicising these events more since the Vote Leave To try And Cause More Tensions......,
Problems dont occur Overnight There has Long Been Tension within the Uk"
Well is this the case I wonder, is it media stiring it may well be. Although they certainly didn't make up the stories. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Honestly think this is getting out of hand but on my Facebook account yesterday was English girl being attack my polish and others for no reason. If people don't like Britain than maybe it's time to leave and I'm one that people who may attack others than English should be deal with as well. IM NOT RACISTS has no one has the right to attack anyone but this is Britain and we also have rules the same as we have to when visiting other countries |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"are you sure the media isnt just pubicising these events more since the Vote Leave To try And Cause More Tensions......,
Problems dont occur Overnight There has Long Been Tension within the Uk
Well is this the case I wonder, is it media stiring it may well be. Although they certainly didn't make up the stories. "
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By (user no longer on site)
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"what the hell has a gollywog got to do with anything?
why bring a jamjar into conversation???
I'm not bringing a jamjar into it but the gollywog on the lable is considered to be racist.
who considers it as racist"
Race agitators who seem to make a living our of stuff like this.
17 million people voted out and the OP picked up on 2 points. I`m sure the racist element of this country were there long before a referendum was announced.
Has for the golly, are you saying black dolls should be banned?
My daughter had a golly that came everwhere with us, she is 21 not 60 and loved it.
Stop making issues out of things that aint there in the golly case or have always existed in certain areas of Britain.
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By (user no longer on site)
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"what the hell has a gollywog got to do with anything?
why bring a jamjar into conversation???
I'm not bringing a jamjar into it but the gollywog on the lable is considered to be racist.
who considers it as racist
Race agitators who seem to make a living our of stuff like this.
17 million people voted out and the OP picked up on 2 points. I`m sure the racist element of this country were there long before a referendum was announced.
Has for the golly, are you saying black dolls should be banned?
My daughter had a golly that came everwhere with us, she is 21 not 60 and loved it.
Stop making issues out of things that aint there in the golly case or have always existed in certain areas of Britain.
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We have always had them and some of them with their beliefs will be feeling emboldened in those beliefs given the xenophobia that farage likes to tap into its hardly a surprise sadly enough..
Maybe when things settle and whatever deal emerges they may slide back under their stones but it could be a long and for some in our society a pretty shit time.. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"what the hell has a gollywog got to do with anything?
why bring a jamjar into conversation???
I'm not bringing a jamjar into it but the gollywog on the lable is considered to be racist.
who considers it as racist
Race agitators who seem to make a living our of stuff like this.
17 million people voted out and the OP picked up on 2 points. I`m sure the racist element of this country were there long before a referendum was announced.
Has for the golly, are you saying black dolls should be banned?
My daughter had a golly that came everwhere with us, she is 21 not 60 and loved it.
Stop making issues out of things that aint there in the golly case or have always existed in certain areas of Britain.
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I'm sure there were racist elements in this country before the referendum, what I'm asking is has the leave vote made these elements believe that it's more acceptable.
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Not to mention the Facebook campaign to bring back the golly*** which stated now we have voted leave can we let this fella back in.
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This "fella" has never been away !!!
what is the problem with gollywogs? and they are not racist
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Do you really think Ebay, Amazon and others would sell gollywog dolls, gollywog badges and gollywog books if indeed they were racist
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Not to mention the Facebook campaign to bring back the golly*** which stated now we have voted leave can we let this fella back in.
This "fella" has never been away !!!
what is the problem with gollywogs? and they are not racist
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Do you really think Ebay, Amazon and others would sell gollywog dolls, gollywog badges and gollywog books if indeed they were racist
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I personally don't have a problem with gollywogs, it's just that the person that started the campaign made the connection with leaving the eu and bringing them back. That was the point I was making. The link in that persons mind with something that actually some people do find offensive and the leaving of the EU |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"The EU is legitimised racism"
How exactly? This is the institution which gives asylum seekers of any race, culture, and religion the same rights of a born EU citizen once they are registered.
If you are going to use the whole, "free movement of people within the EU discriminates against of nationalities and peoples who would love to contribute to Europe" then please think again, as a Japanese couple on my street explained, anyone can apply to for a visa to work and live in Britain, then for British citizenship. Even they said that some leave campaigners were poking at a pile of shit with that remark. |
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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago
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OP, I made the comment on another thread that this vote appears to have given some people the view that they can act with impunity now.
A thread on here will just air the same views that always get aired. Those that believe they aren't racist but buy into racist arguments will say what they always say. There is no swaying them. To say anything they don't approve will get me more messages that I am PC gone mad and/or playing the race card. Or I might get another message telling me I should state that I'm not white on my profile so they know to block me.
It's going to get nastier for a while but I hope the sensible Brits will help calm this.
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By (user no longer on site)
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"what the hell has a gollywog got to do with anything?
why bring a jamjar into conversation???
I'm not bringing a jamjar into it but the gollywog on the lable is considered to be racist.
I was just making the point that Facebook made the assertion that now we have voted leave an artifact that many consider a representation of racial oppression is now ok again. "
Did Facebook make this assertion or just some dimwit with acces to Facebook ? |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"what the hell has a gollywog got to do with anything?
why bring a jamjar into conversation???
I'm not bringing a jamjar into it but the gollywog on the lable is considered to be racist.
I was just making the point that Facebook made the assertion that now we have voted leave an artifact that many consider a representation of racial oppression is now ok again.
Did Facebook make this assertion or just some dimwit with acces to Facebook ? "
Obviously some one created a Facebook campaign |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"The EU is legitimised racism
How exactly? This is the institution which gives asylum seekers of any race, culture, and religion the same rights of a born EU citizen once they are registered.
If you are going to use the whole, "free movement of people within the EU discriminates against of nationalities and peoples who would love to contribute to Europe" then please think again, as a Japanese couple on my street explained, anyone can apply to for a visa to work and live in Britain, then for British citizenship. Even they said that some leave campaigners were poking at a pile of shit with that remark."
maybe you could watch the EU film called 'Growing Together'.
Or maybe you could explain why and how Germany is one of the worlds biggest exporters of coffee without growing a single bean and what the consequences of this are to African farmers? There are many reasons |
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By (user no longer on site)
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I've lost a lot of Facebook "friends" due to this referendum, not because we voted differently but because this whole thing has brought out their inner cockwomble, they believe they can suddenly be downright rude to all and sundry because we had a vote about something they didn't bother reading the fine print to.
On the bright side, it's streamlined my Facebook no end....the trash took itself out!  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"are you sure the media isnt just pubicising these events more since the Vote Leave To try And Cause More Tensions......,
Problems dont occur Overnight There has Long Been Tension within the Uk"
Exactly this |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Harping on about the ins n outs still move on btw what about the polish who ban english from their shops and who kicked an english man to his death outside a club id call that racism works both ways wouldnt you say. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Harping on about the ins n outs still move on btw what about the polish who ban english from their shops and who kicked an english man to his death outside a club id call that racism works both ways wouldnt you say."
I haven't heard anything of the above two items did they really happen? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"The EU is legitimised racism
How exactly? This is the institution which gives asylum seekers of any race, culture, and religion the same rights of a born EU citizen once they are registered.
If you are going to use the whole, "free movement of people within the EU discriminates against of nationalities and peoples who would love to contribute to Europe" then please think again, as a Japanese couple on my street explained, anyone can apply to for a visa to work and live in Britain, then for British citizenship. Even they said that some leave campaigners were poking at a pile of shit with that remark.
maybe you could watch the EU film called 'Growing Together'.
Or maybe you could explain why and how Germany is one of the worlds biggest exporters of coffee without growing a single bean and what the consequences of this are to African farmers? There are many reasons"
If it's an area you have researched and are informed about maybe you can inform me? this thread and my inbox are open - and I always like to learn new things. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Harping on about the ins n outs still move on btw what about the polish who ban english from their shops and who kicked an english man to his death outside a club id call that racism works both ways wouldnt you say."
It absolutely does work both ways, what I want to know is if the referendum has made this worse. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"The EU is legitimised racism
How exactly? This is the institution which gives asylum seekers of any race, culture, and religion the same rights of a born EU citizen once they are registered.
If you are going to use the whole, "free movement of people within the EU discriminates against of nationalities and peoples who would love to contribute to Europe" then please think again, as a Japanese couple on my street explained, anyone can apply to for a visa to work and live in Britain, then for British citizenship. Even they said that some leave campaigners were poking at a pile of shit with that remark.
maybe you could watch the EU film called 'Growing Together'.
Or maybe you could explain why and how Germany is one of the worlds biggest exporters of coffee without growing a single bean and what the consequences of this are to African farmers? There are many reasons
If it's an area you have researched and are informed about maybe you can inform me? this thread and my inbox are open - and I always like to learn new things. "
not got time to go into it, maybe you could look up How The EU Starves Africa Into Submission. You might call it business but there is more to it than that |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"The germans still wanna rule europe even after having their ass wupped twice 1914-1918 n 1939-1945 lol"
you are not too far of the mark there
I have read a few auto biographies of Germans joining the French Foreign Legion after world war 2; they have all said that Germany would eventually take over Europe but the next time, it would be done in a smart clever way
think about it |
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"Yes in nottingham"
I live in Nottingham and didn't hear this.
I shop regularly in Polish and Asian stores in the Hyson Green and Sneinton areas of the city and have never been made to feel like i'm not welcome. It didn't make the local newspaper either! |
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The guy I know who runs the kebaberie in town has been the subject of racist abuse/trolling on Facebook post vote.
He just happens to be Turkish born and a Muslim... he's also a local business owner with English-born children and sits on the parish council.
But, you know, he's a different colour, so.
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I watched the video of the 3 youths on the tram in Manchester and the thing that struck me about it was the tram was full and it was 2 or 3 ladies that got between the young thugs and their target.
Not a single man stepped up to put an end to the thugs violence. If it were not for the women that man would have been beaten up on that tram.
We have turned into a nation of politically correct, risk adverse, curtain twitchers who cower behind our front doors and believe our civic responsibilities end at our front gate. This allows thugs freedom to do as they will and will continue until we as a nation find our backbone and start slapping down the thugs when they start rather than sitting idle or videoing them for social media.
Just my opinion. |
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By *errygTV/TS
over a year ago
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"Yes in nottingham
I live in Nottingham and didn't hear this.
I shop regularly in Polish and Asian stores in the Hyson Green and Sneinton areas of the city and have never been made to feel like i'm not welcome. It didn't make the local newspaper either!"
any shop will make you welcome if your spending money there |
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"I think there is a nastier atmosphere this week than what there was the week before. "
Historically it is what happens when a significant portion of the masses support isolationist policies. The question is will this vote be the catalyst that drives our already quite far right government into the realms of ultra authoritarian fascism? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"The EU is legitimised racism
How exactly? This is the institution which gives asylum seekers of any race, culture, and religion the same rights of a born EU citizen once they are registered.
If you are going to use the whole, "free movement of people within the EU discriminates against of nationalities and peoples who would love to contribute to Europe" then please think again, as a Japanese couple on my street explained, anyone can apply to for a visa to work and live in Britain, then for British citizenship. Even they said that some leave campaigners were poking at a pile of shit with that remark.
maybe you could watch the EU film called 'Growing Together'.
Or maybe you could explain why and how Germany is one of the worlds biggest exporters of coffee without growing a single bean and what the consequences of this are to African farmers? There are many reasons"
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I think there is a nastier atmosphere this week than what there was the week before. "
That is right and now most of the brexitors are showing their true colours.
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"I think there is a nastier atmosphere this week than what there was the week before. That is right and now most of the brexitors are showing their true colours."
yes its true nothing but sour grapes, grow up, suck it up, sad looser comments don't help anyone feeling disspondant by the state we found our country in post leave vote win and they seem united in waving this flag at us too ! then ask us to all pull together  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"There has been an increase in racist incidents reported in the news in the wake of the referendum.
Some state that the decision has emboldened racist elements in society, who now believe that it's become legitimate to be a bigot.
Examples of this are the anti polish notices posted through people's doors in Cambridge
And the incident on a Manchester tram where a group of youths used racist insults and threatening behaviour against a foreigner.
Not to mention the Facebook campaign to bring back the golly*** which stated now we have voted leave can we let this fella back in.
What are people's opinions on this"
We had muslims oost notices areas where sharia only or muslim only...did anyone think it was legitimate?
There are dozens of viedos of people being racist on busses and trams off all colours it was a whole thing s few years ago.
Basicaly nothings differnt than yesterday except a paper can link them all under one story arc
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I think there is a nastier atmosphere this week than what there was the week before. That is right and now most of the brexitors are showing their true colours.yes its true nothing but sour grapes, grow up, suck it up, sad looser comments don't help anyone feeling disspondant by the state we found our country in post leave vote win and they seem united in waving this flag at us too ! then ask us to all pull together "
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By (user no longer on site)
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Somebody,said something,sometime to me,but they were talking shite too,yawn rascism n xenophobic,whatever did we do without these words being used so frequently,reported is not the same as prosecuted,or proven? Rascist incident could be white on black,black on white,white on white,how do you know who was against who,if they were! |
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