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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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Why is it now that many "personal trainers" look like they have never exercised in their lives?
Today at my gym (I won't name it) there were 5 PT's in there, but only 1 looked in good shape and you could tell he knew what he was doing, the other 4 looked out of shape, uninterested and basically had their clients doing some very very random exercises to say the least.
Now I know anyone can get qualified in this field, but would you pay £35 per hour to someone who didn't look in shape themselves?
Maybe it's just me but it annoys me to think they are charging those prices to people who don't know any better and not giving them the advice, information they require.
And just for the record I've worked in the fitness industry for many years, it's just of late it appears that more of these so called trainers are popping up.
Anyone else noticed this in their gym?
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I'd have no problem paying some £35 if they didn't look in shape. I know PT's/people who are in great shape but are clueless about lots of areas in fitness.
It doesn't matter what size/shape you are, but if you look uninterested then I'd have a problem. |
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"I'd have no problem paying some £35 if they didn't look in shape. I know PT's/people who are in great shape but are clueless about lots of areas in fitness.
It doesn't matter what size/shape you are, but if you look uninterested then I'd have a problem."
It appears most are uninterested these days, it amazes me how many have their clients squatting in a smith machine!  |
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"I'd have no problem paying some £35 if they didn't look in shape. I know PT's/people who are in great shape but are clueless about lots of areas in fitness.
It doesn't matter what size/shape you are, but if you look uninterested then I'd have a problem.
It appears most are uninterested these days, it amazes me how many have their clients squatting in a smith machine! "
Well if youre talking beginner, than squat rack prob isnt a bad idea just to develop technique...i see what u mean by disinterested though, i see this a lot too. A lot of people just seem to get into the industry as a fall back these days |
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"I'd have no problem paying some £35 if they didn't look in shape. I know PT's/people who are in great shape but are clueless about lots of areas in fitness.
It doesn't matter what size/shape you are, but if you look uninterested then I'd have a problem.
It appears most are uninterested these days, it amazes me how many have their clients squatting in a smith machine!
Well if youre talking beginner, than squat rack prob isnt a bad idea just to develop technique...i see what u mean by disinterested though, i see this a lot too. A lot of people just seem to get into the industry as a fall back these days"
If you're talking a beginner and want to concentrate on Technique then use no weight or a light bar, a smith machine doesn't allow the natural movement of a squat and also doesn't engage the stabilising muscles  |
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By *r.BlondeMan
over a year ago
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"Why is it now that many "personal trainers" look like they have never exercised in their lives?
Today at my gym (I won't name it) there were 5 PT's in there, but only 1 looked in good shape and you could tell he knew what he was doing, the other 4 looked out of shape, uninterested and basically had their clients doing some very very random exercises to say the least.
Now I know anyone can get qualified in this field, but would you pay £35 per hour to someone who didn't look in shape themselves?
Maybe it's just me but it annoys me to think they are charging those prices to people who don't know any better and not giving them the advice, information they require.
And just for the record I've worked in the fitness industry for many years, it's just of late it appears that more of these so called trainers are popping up.
Anyone else noticed this in their gym?
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well when I used to go the gym I have seen this I agree if your giving advice you should look like you are qualified to do an not just have qualifications it just looks more professional or unless they are older and used to be in good shape. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Why is it now that many "personal trainers" look like they have never exercised in their lives?
Today at my gym (I won't name it) there were 5 PT's in there, but only 1 looked in good shape and you could tell he knew what he was doing, the other 4 looked out of shape, uninterested and basically had their clients doing some very very random exercises to say the least.
Now I know anyone can get qualified in this field, but would you pay £35 per hour to someone who didn't look in shape themselves?
Maybe it's just me but it annoys me to think they are charging those prices to people who don't know any better and not giving them the advice, information they require.
And just for the record I've worked in the fitness industry for many years, it's just of late it appears that more of these so called trainers are popping up.
Anyone else noticed this in their gym?
well when I used to go the gym I have seen this I agree if your giving advice you should look like you are qualified to do an not just have qualifications it just looks more professional or unless they are older and used to be in good shape."
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By (user no longer on site)
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It appears most are uninterested these days, it amazes me how many have their clients squatting in a smith machine! "
I think the same issue happens in most lines of work. To be a great PT you do need to put in a huge amount of work, not everyone is willing to do that. To be great at anything you need to put in a huge amount of work.
I find in human nature most people are happy to coast along in their jobs earning average money while not having to break their back. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I'd have no problem paying some £35 if they didn't look in shape. I know PT's/people who are in great shape but are clueless about lots of areas in fitness.
It doesn't matter what size/shape you are, but if you look uninterested then I'd have a problem.
It appears most are uninterested these days, it amazes me how many have their clients squatting in a smith machine!
Well if youre talking beginner, than squat rack prob isnt a bad idea just to develop technique...i see what u mean by disinterested though, i see this a lot too. A lot of people just seem to get into the industry as a fall back these days
If you're talking a beginner and want to concentrate on Technique then use no weight or a light bar, a smith machine doesn't allow the natural movement of a squat and also doesn't engage the stabilising muscles "
I know its a bit unnatural but i can at least see the logic behind it, phil heath even mentioned it as one of his start up exercises when he first got going. Wasnt long moving to a bar though needless to say |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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It appears most are uninterested these days, it amazes me how many have their clients squatting in a smith machine!
I think the same issue happens in most lines of work. To be a great PT you do need to put in a huge amount of work, not everyone is willing to do that. To be great at anything you need to put in a huge amount of work.
I find in human nature most people are happy to coast along in their jobs earning average money while not having to break their back. "
Fair point but £35 per hour isn't "average" money |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"I'd have no problem paying some £35 if they didn't look in shape. I know PT's/people who are in great shape but are clueless about lots of areas in fitness.
It doesn't matter what size/shape you are, but if you look uninterested then I'd have a problem.
It appears most are uninterested these days, it amazes me how many have their clients squatting in a smith machine!
Well if youre talking beginner, than squat rack prob isnt a bad idea just to develop technique...i see what u mean by disinterested though, i see this a lot too. A lot of people just seem to get into the industry as a fall back these days
If you're talking a beginner and want to concentrate on Technique then use no weight or a light bar, a smith machine doesn't allow the natural movement of a squat and also doesn't engage the stabilising muscles
I know its a bit unnatural but i can at least see the logic behind it, phil heath even mentioned it as one of his start up exercises when he first got going. Wasnt long moving to a bar though needless to say"
No logic, it was voted in the top 5 most useless exercises in a gym in a recent men's health poll by fitness experts |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Why is it now that many "personal trainers" look like they have never exercised in their lives?
Today at my gym (I won't name it) there were 5 PT's in there, but only 1 looked in good shape and you could tell he knew what he was doing, the other 4 looked out of shape, uninterested and basically had their clients doing some very very random exercises to say the least.
Now I know anyone can get qualified in this field, but would you pay £35 per hour to someone who didn't look in shape themselves?
Maybe it's just me but it annoys me to think they are charging those prices to people who don't know any better and not giving them the advice, information they require.
And just for the record I've worked in the fitness industry for many years, it's just of late it appears that more of these so called trainers are popping up.
Anyone else noticed this in their gym?
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Wait a minute... So you're saying that just because a personal trainer is not in shape he has no business being paid to get someone in shape
Hmm how do you feel about a obese woman on fab asking to only meet muscular/gym fit/slim guys?  |
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By *r.BlondeMan
over a year ago
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"Why is it now that many "personal trainers" look like they have never exercised in their lives?
Today at my gym (I won't name it) there were 5 PT's in there, but only 1 looked in good shape and you could tell he knew what he was doing, the other 4 looked out of shape, uninterested and basically had their clients doing some very very random exercises to say the least.
Now I know anyone can get qualified in this field, but would you pay £35 per hour to someone who didn't look in shape themselves?
Maybe it's just me but it annoys me to think they are charging those prices to people who don't know any better and not giving them the advice, information they require.
And just for the record I've worked in the fitness industry for many years, it's just of late it appears that more of these so called trainers are popping up.
Anyone else noticed this in their gym?
well when I used to go the gym I have seen this I agree if your giving advice you should look like you are qualified to do an not just have qualifications it just looks more professional or unless they are older and used to be in good shape.
Are you sure you went to grammar school? "
yes but I 'dont' like on your profile really bother to check my grammar on the forum doesn't really matter.  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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And just for the record I've worked in the fitness industry for many years, it's just of late it appears that more of these so called trainers are popping up.
Anyone else noticed this in their gym?
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I think I possibly have, and it just didn't click that i was looking at one...a friend or a partner perhaps, but not an actual PT |
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By (user no longer on site)
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some really knowledgeable PT`s dont look the part. but they are few and far between
its commercial gyms that mostly hire the people you are talking about. i`d get a free taster session with any PT you are gonna use. you can tell within that time if they know their shit or not |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Yes, I have.
My previous gym was filled with PT's who looked like they have never exercised in their life.
Thing is, they have probably done a sports & fitness course in college and now they can be described as "legit" PT's.
Because you know, they read some books about exercise...
The good thing about this, is that it clearly gives you an idea of what quality the gym itself is. |
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"Why is it now that many "personal trainers" look like they have never exercised in their lives?
Today at my gym (I won't name it) there were 5 PT's in there, but only 1 looked in good shape and you could tell he knew what he was doing, the other 4 looked out of shape, uninterested and basically had their clients doing some very very random exercises to say the least.
Now I know anyone can get qualified in this field, but would you pay £35 per hour to someone who didn't look in shape themselves?
Maybe it's just me but it annoys me to think they are charging those prices to people who don't know any better and not giving them the advice, information they require.
And just for the record I've worked in the fitness industry for many years, it's just of late it appears that more of these so called trainers are popping up.
Anyone else noticed this in their gym?
"
Personally I would badmse my decision on who I got on with and not their physique.
Local to me there is a fabulous fitness lady who I know has her own personal issues with weight and I find her classes the best around. She works alongside another lady who looks as of she has never had any issues with her weight and whilst I enjoy her classes I much prefer the first one's. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Why is it now that many "personal trainers" look like they have never exercised in their lives?
Today at my gym (I won't name it) there were 5 PT's in there, but only 1 looked in good shape and you could tell he knew what he was doing, the other 4 looked out of shape, uninterested and basically had their clients doing some very very random exercises to say the least.
Now I know anyone can get qualified in this field, but would you pay £35 per hour to someone who didn't look in shape themselves?
Maybe it's just me but it annoys me to think they are charging those prices to people who don't know any better and not giving them the advice, information they require.
And just for the record I've worked in the fitness industry for many years, it's just of late it appears that more of these so called trainers are popping up.
Anyone else noticed this in their gym?
Wait a minute... So you're saying that just because a personal trainer is not in shape he has no business being paid to get someone in shape
Hmm how do you feel about a obese woman on fab asking to only meet muscular/gym fit/slim guys? "
What relevance has people on a swingers site got to do with fitness professionals?!
People having sex is a bit different to seeking advice!
Would you let a dentist with rotten teeth and bad breath give you advice on dental hygiene? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Why is it now that many "personal trainers" look like they have never exercised in their lives?
Today at my gym (I won't name it) there were 5 PT's in there, but only 1 looked in good shape and you could tell he knew what he was doing, the other 4 looked out of shape, uninterested and basically had their clients doing some very very random exercises to say the least.
Now I know anyone can get qualified in this field, but would you pay £35 per hour to someone who didn't look in shape themselves?
Maybe it's just me but it annoys me to think they are charging those prices to people who don't know any better and not giving them the advice, information they require.
And just for the record I've worked in the fitness industry for many years, it's just of late it appears that more of these so called trainers are popping up.
Anyone else noticed this in their gym?
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At the end of the day you don't have to practice something to have studied it and know about it
Personally I'd have more respect for somebody who looked like they practicrd what they preached
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Why is it now that many "personal trainers" look like they have never exercised in their lives?
Today at my gym (I won't name it) there were 5 PT's in there, but only 1 looked in good shape and you could tell he knew what he was doing, the other 4 looked out of shape, uninterested and basically had their clients doing some very very random exercises to say the least.
Now I know anyone can get qualified in this field, but would you pay £35 per hour to someone who didn't look in shape themselves?
Maybe it's just me but it annoys me to think they are charging those prices to people who don't know any better and not giving them the advice, information they require.
And just for the record I've worked in the fitness industry for many years, it's just of late it appears that more of these so called trainers are popping up.
Anyone else noticed this in their gym?
Personally I would badmse my decision on who I got on with and not their physique.
Local to me there is a fabulous fitness lady who I know has her own personal issues with weight and I find her classes the best around. She works alongside another lady who looks as of she has never had any issues with her weight and whilst I enjoy her classes I much prefer the first one's. "
Why is everyone going off on tangents here? I wasn't talking about "fitness classes" I am well aware that a lot of fitness class instructors are out of shape and that they do classes as a side line.
I'm talking about Personal Trainers, and regarding your point of who you get on with, I would want results not a bit of banter with the local comedian. |
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"Why is it now that many "personal trainers" look like they have never exercised in their lives?
Today at my gym (I won't name it) there were 5 PT's in there, but only 1 looked in good shape and you could tell he knew what he was doing, the other 4 looked out of shape, uninterested and basically had their clients doing some very very random exercises to say the least.
Now I know anyone can get qualified in this field, but would you pay £35 per hour to someone who didn't look in shape themselves?
Maybe it's just me but it annoys me to think they are charging those prices to people who don't know any better and not giving them the advice, information they require.
And just for the record I've worked in the fitness industry for many years, it's just of late it appears that more of these so called trainers are popping up.
Anyone else noticed this in their gym?
Personally I would badmse my decision on who I got on with and not their physique.
Local to me there is a fabulous fitness lady who I know has her own personal issues with weight and I find her classes the best around. She works alongside another lady who looks as of she has never had any issues with her weight and whilst I enjoy her classes I much prefer the first one's. "
But which one is the more effective though? |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Why is it now that many "personal trainers" look like they have never exercised in their lives?
Today at my gym (I won't name it) there were 5 PT's in there, but only 1 looked in good shape and you could tell he knew what he was doing, the other 4 looked out of shape, uninterested and basically had their clients doing some very very random exercises to say the least.
Now I know anyone can get qualified in this field, but would you pay £35 per hour to someone who didn't look in shape themselves?
Maybe it's just me but it annoys me to think they are charging those prices to people who don't know any better and not giving them the advice, information they require.
And just for the record I've worked in the fitness industry for many years, it's just of late it appears that more of these so called trainers are popping up.
Anyone else noticed this in their gym?
At the end of the day you don't have to practice something to have studied it and know about it
Personally I'd have more respect for somebody who looked like they practicrd what they preached
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Yes, I have.
My previous gym was filled with PT's who looked like they have never exercised in their life.
Thing is, they have probably done a sports & fitness course in college and now they can be described as "legit" PT's.
Because you know, they read some books about exercise...
The good thing about this, is that it clearly gives you an idea of what quality the gym itself is."
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"some really knowledgeable PT`s dont look the part. but they are few and far between
its commercial gyms that mostly hire the people you are talking about. i`d get a free taster session with any PT you are gonna use. you can tell within that time if they know their shit or not"
I'm more than happy training on my own  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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It appears most are uninterested these days, it amazes me how many have their clients squatting in a smith machine!
I think the same issue happens in most lines of work. To be a great PT you do need to put in a huge amount of work, not everyone is willing to do that. To be great at anything you need to put in a huge amount of work.
I find in human nature most people are happy to coast along in their jobs earning average money while not having to break their back.
Fair point but £35 per hour isn't "average" money "
Most PTs would make average money in terms of yearly income. A percentage of that £35 goes to the gym and then you've the fact that most of those PT wouldn't get a huge amount of clients per day. Always the case that a lot of those PT sessions you see are free as perks of membership, which the PT wouldn't be paid the £35 per hour for. |
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"some really knowledgeable PT`s dont look the part. but they are few and far between
its commercial gyms that mostly hire the people you are talking about. i`d get a free taster session with any PT you are gonna use. you can tell within that time if they know their shit or not
I'm more than happy training on my own "
same
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"Why is it now that many "personal trainers" look like they have never exercised in their lives?
Today at my gym (I won't name it) there were 5 PT's in there, but only 1 looked in good shape and you could tell he knew what he was doing, the other 4 looked out of shape, uninterested and basically had their clients doing some very very random exercises to say the least.
Now I know anyone can get qualified in this field, but would you pay £35 per hour to someone who didn't look in shape themselves?
Maybe it's just me but it annoys me to think they are charging those prices to people who don't know any better and not giving them the advice, information they require.
And just for the record I've worked in the fitness industry for many years, it's just of late it appears that more of these so called trainers are popping up.
Anyone else noticed this in their gym?
Personally I would badmse my decision on who I got on with and not their physique.
Local to me there is a fabulous fitness lady who I know has her own personal issues with weight and I find her classes the best around. She works alongside another lady who looks as of she has never had any issues with her weight and whilst I enjoy her classes I much prefer the first one's.
Why is everyone going off on tangents here? I wasn't talking about "fitness classes" I am well aware that a lot of fitness class instructors are out of shape and that they do classes as a side line.
I'm talking about Personal Trainers, and regarding your point of who you get on with, I would want results not a bit of banter with the local comedian. "
Why are you getting so arsey?
Ok.....for a personal trainer I would work harder for someone I get on with rather than someone with perfect abs and a chiselled orions belt.
For the record the ladies I was talking about do it for a living, several classes a day including clubercise, zumba, kettles, hiit, suspension training, boxer's....so they aren't just playing at it.
Whenever I have seen a personal trainer with a client they half heartedly show them what to do once PR twice then stand around watching. These women do their classes for the whole duration, the sweat is running off them. |
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"some really knowledgeable PT`s dont look the part. but they are few and far between
its commercial gyms that mostly hire the people you are talking about. i`d get a free taster session with any PT you are gonna use. you can tell within that time if they know their shit or not
I'm more than happy training on my own
same
but we could all use a spot every so often "
Would rather ask a gym member than interupt the PT from updating their Facebook page |
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"Why is it now that many "personal trainers" look like they have never exercised in their lives?
Today at my gym (I won't name it) there were 5 PT's in there, but only 1 looked in good shape and you could tell he knew what he was doing, the other 4 looked out of shape, uninterested and basically had their clients doing some very very random exercises to say the least.
Now I know anyone can get qualified in this field, but would you pay £35 per hour to someone who didn't look in shape themselves?
Maybe it's just me but it annoys me to think they are charging those prices to people who don't know any better and not giving them the advice, information they require.
And just for the record I've worked in the fitness industry for many years, it's just of late it appears that more of these so called trainers are popping up.
Anyone else noticed this in their gym?
Wait a minute... So you're saying that just because a personal trainer is not in shape he has no business being paid to get someone in shape
Hmm how do you feel about a obese woman on fab asking to only meet muscular/gym fit/slim guys?
What relevance has people on a swingers site got to do with fitness professionals?!
People having sex is a bit different to seeking advice!
Would you let a dentist with rotten teeth and bad breath give you advice on dental hygiene? "
What I'm trying to say is fat out of shape personal trainers have a right to earn a living also... It's personal choice  |
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"Why is it now that many "personal trainers" look like they have never exercised in their lives?
Today at my gym (I won't name it) there were 5 PT's in there, but only 1 looked in good shape and you could tell he knew what he was doing, the other 4 looked out of shape, uninterested and basically had their clients doing some very very random exercises to say the least.
Now I know anyone can get qualified in this field, but would you pay £35 per hour to someone who didn't look in shape themselves?
Maybe it's just me but it annoys me to think they are charging those prices to people who don't know any better and not giving them the advice, information they require.
And just for the record I've worked in the fitness industry for many years, it's just of late it appears that more of these so called trainers are popping up.
Anyone else noticed this in their gym?
Personally I would badmse my decision on who I got on with and not their physique.
Local to me there is a fabulous fitness lady who I know has her own personal issues with weight and I find her classes the best around. She works alongside another lady who looks as of she has never had any issues with her weight and whilst I enjoy her classes I much prefer the first one's.
Why is everyone going off on tangents here? I wasn't talking about "fitness classes" I am well aware that a lot of fitness class instructors are out of shape and that they do classes as a side line.
I'm talking about Personal Trainers, and regarding your point of who you get on with, I would want results not a bit of banter with the local comedian.
Why are you getting so arsey?
Ok.....for a personal trainer I would work harder for someone I get on with rather than someone with perfect abs and a chiselled orions belt.
For the record the ladies I was talking about do it for a living, several classes a day including clubercise, zumba, kettles, hiit, suspension training, boxer's....so they aren't just playing at it.
Whenever I have seen a personal trainer with a client they half heartedly show them what to do once PR twice then stand around watching. These women do their classes for the whole duration, the sweat is running off them. "
Ok, but theyre not personal trainers...at least not in that capacity. |
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By *r.BlondeMan
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"Why is it now that many "personal trainers" look like they have never exercised in their lives?
Today at my gym (I won't name it) there were 5 PT's in there, but only 1 looked in good shape and you could tell he knew what he was doing, the other 4 looked out of shape, uninterested and basically had their clients doing some very very random exercises to say the least.
Now I know anyone can get qualified in this field, but would you pay £35 per hour to someone who didn't look in shape themselves?
Maybe it's just me but it annoys me to think they are charging those prices to people who don't know any better and not giving them the advice, information they require.
And just for the record I've worked in the fitness industry for many years, it's just of late it appears that more of these so called trainers are popping up.
Anyone else noticed this in their gym?
Wait a minute... So you're saying that just because a personal trainer is not in shape he has no business being paid to get someone in shape
Hmm how do you feel about a obese woman on fab asking to only meet muscular/gym fit/slim guys?
What relevance has people on a swingers site got to do with fitness professionals?!
People having sex is a bit different to seeking advice!
Would you let a dentist with rotten teeth and bad breath give you advice on dental hygiene?
What I'm trying to say is fat out of shape personal trainers have a right to earn a living also... It's personal choice "
they wouldn't get my money though either, it is just a matter of professionalism, to me I would think they look lazy so why would I want a lazy trainer? |
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"Why is it now that many "personal trainers" look like they have never exercised in their lives?
Today at my gym (I won't name it) there were 5 PT's in there, but only 1 looked in good shape and you could tell he knew what he was doing, the other 4 looked out of shape, uninterested and basically had their clients doing some very very random exercises to say the least.
Now I know anyone can get qualified in this field, but would you pay £35 per hour to someone who didn't look in shape themselves?
Maybe it's just me but it annoys me to think they are charging those prices to people who don't know any better and not giving them the advice, information they require.
And just for the record I've worked in the fitness industry for many years, it's just of late it appears that more of these so called trainers are popping up.
Anyone else noticed this in their gym?
Personally I would badmse my decision on who I got on with and not their physique.
Local to me there is a fabulous fitness lady who I know has her own personal issues with weight and I find her classes the best around. She works alongside another lady who looks as of she has never had any issues with her weight and whilst I enjoy her classes I much prefer the first one's.
Why is everyone going off on tangents here? I wasn't talking about "fitness classes" I am well aware that a lot of fitness class instructors are out of shape and that they do classes as a side line.
I'm talking about Personal Trainers, and regarding your point of who you get on with, I would want results not a bit of banter with the local comedian.
Why are you getting so arsey?
Ok.....for a personal trainer I would work harder for someone I get on with rather than someone with perfect abs and a chiselled orions belt.
For the record the ladies I was talking about do it for a living, several classes a day including clubercise, zumba, kettles, hiit, suspension training, boxer's....so they aren't just playing at it.
Whenever I have seen a personal trainer with a client they half heartedly show them what to do once PR twice then stand around watching. These women do their classes for the whole duration, the sweat is running off them.
Ok, but theyre not personal trainers...at least not in that capacity."
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"Why is it now that many "personal trainers" look like they have never exercised in their lives?
Today at my gym (I won't name it) there were 5 PT's in there, but only 1 looked in good shape and you could tell he knew what he was doing, the other 4 looked out of shape, uninterested and basically had their clients doing some very very random exercises to say the least.
Now I know anyone can get qualified in this field, but would you pay £35 per hour to someone who didn't look in shape themselves?
Maybe it's just me but it annoys me to think they are charging those prices to people who don't know any better and not giving them the advice, information they require.
And just for the record I've worked in the fitness industry for many years, it's just of late it appears that more of these so called trainers are popping up.
Anyone else noticed this in their gym?
Wait a minute... So you're saying that just because a personal trainer is not in shape he has no business being paid to get someone in shape
Hmm how do you feel about a obese woman on fab asking to only meet muscular/gym fit/slim guys?
What relevance has people on a swingers site got to do with fitness professionals?!
People having sex is a bit different to seeking advice!
Would you let a dentist with rotten teeth and bad breath give you advice on dental hygiene?
What I'm trying to say is fat out of shape personal trainers have a right to earn a living also... It's personal choice they wouldn't get my money though either, it is just a matter of professionalism, to me I would think they look lazy so why would I want a lazy trainer?"
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As a qualified personal trainer myself (not doing it so much anymore just a couple clients).
In this day and age the need for a personal trainer whether you are a beginner or intmediate isnt really needed.
everything you need to know about nutrition and workout routines is a finger tip away.
you tube will have videos showing you thousands of exercises and the techniques how to to do them.
which muscle groups to work together ect.
The only thing a personal trainer is useful for is to motivate and push somone to their limits.
but if somone was having 2 or 3 personal training sessions a week thats 70-100 pounds.
in ten weeks thats 700-1000 pounds (a nice lil holiday) if that isnt enough to motivate somome I dont know what is.
and now with all these new fitness apps coming out with various exercises to do on certain days I think the need for personal trainers will soon be over.
I train in a large gym which when I joined had 4 personal trainers and now it only has one and I very rarely see him training anyone.
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"Why is it now that many "personal trainers" look like they have never exercised in their lives?
Today at my gym (I won't name it) there were 5 PT's in there, but only 1 looked in good shape and you could tell he knew what he was doing, the other 4 looked out of shape, uninterested and basically had their clients doing some very very random exercises to say the least.
Now I know anyone can get qualified in this field, but would you pay £35 per hour to someone who didn't look in shape themselves?
Maybe it's just me but it annoys me to think they are charging those prices to people who don't know any better and not giving them the advice, information they require.
And just for the record I've worked in the fitness industry for many years, it's just of late it appears that more of these so called trainers are popping up.
Anyone else noticed this in their gym?
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Because they paid for a mostly academic and not vocational basic course. |
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"As a qualified personal trainer myself (not doing it so much anymore just a couple clients).
In this day and age the need for a personal trainer whether you are a beginner or intmediate isnt really needed.
everything you need to know about nutrition and workout routines is a finger tip away.
you tube will have videos showing you thousands of exercises and the techniques how to to do them.
which muscle groups to work together ect.
The only thing a personal trainer is useful for is to motivate and push somone to their limits.
but if somone was having 2 or 3 personal training sessions a week thats 70-100 pounds.
in ten weeks thats 700-1000 pounds (a nice lil holiday) if that isnt enough to motivate somome I dont know what is.
and now with all these new fitness apps coming out with various exercises to do on certain days I think the need for personal trainers will soon be over.
I train in a large gym which when I joined had 4 personal trainers and now it only has one and I very rarely see him training anyone.
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I dunno man, if you ask me, i can see the need growing even more. With people becoming lazier and lazier with each passing generation, motivation should become more and more in demand. Fair enough the tools are easier to come by for free, but being actively motivated and driven hard is something you cant get online |
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"As a qualified personal trainer myself (not doing it so much anymore just a couple clients).
In this day and age the need for a personal trainer whether you are a beginner or intmediate isnt really needed.
everything you need to know about nutrition and workout routines is a finger tip away.
you tube will have videos showing you thousands of exercises and the techniques how to to do them.
which muscle groups to work together ect.
The only thing a personal trainer is useful for is to motivate and push somone to their limits.
but if somone was having 2 or 3 personal training sessions a week thats 70-100 pounds.
in ten weeks thats 700-1000 pounds (a nice lil holiday) if that isnt enough to motivate somome I dont know what is.
and now with all these new fitness apps coming out with various exercises to do on certain days I think the need for personal trainers will soon be over.
I train in a large gym which when I joined had 4 personal trainers and now it only has one and I very rarely see him training anyone.
I dunno man, if you ask me, i can see the need growing even more. With people becoming lazier and lazier with each passing generation, motivation should become more and more in demand. Fair enough the tools are easier to come by for free, but being actively motivated and driven hard is something you cant get online"
Ermh...yes you can. I usually listen to a motivational speech which is more than motivating. People are motivated by different things, those motivated by money won't get a personal trainer. |
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"As a qualified personal trainer myself (not doing it so much anymore just a couple clients).
In this day and age the need for a personal trainer whether you are a beginner or intmediate isnt really needed.
everything you need to know about nutrition and workout routines is a finger tip away.
you tube will have videos showing you thousands of exercises and the techniques how to to do them.
which muscle groups to work together ect.
The only thing a personal trainer is useful for is to motivate and push somone to their limits.
but if somone was having 2 or 3 personal training sessions a week thats 70-100 pounds.
in ten weeks thats 700-1000 pounds (a nice lil holiday) if that isnt enough to motivate somome I dont know what is.
and now with all these new fitness apps coming out with various exercises to do on certain days I think the need for personal trainers will soon be over.
I train in a large gym which when I joined had 4 personal trainers and now it only has one and I very rarely see him training anyone.
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true
i learnt so much from youtube and muscle & fitness forums too
the only thing i think i`d pay someone for now is a nutrition or prep plan |
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"As a qualified personal trainer myself (not doing it so much anymore just a couple clients).
In this day and age the need for a personal trainer whether you are a beginner or intmediate isnt really needed.
everything you need to know about nutrition and workout routines is a finger tip away.
you tube will have videos showing you thousands of exercises and the techniques how to to do them.
which muscle groups to work together ect.
The only thing a personal trainer is useful for is to motivate and push somone to their limits.
but if somone was having 2 or 3 personal training sessions a week thats 70-100 pounds.
in ten weeks thats 700-1000 pounds (a nice lil holiday) if that isnt enough to motivate somome I dont know what is.
and now with all these new fitness apps coming out with various exercises to do on certain days I think the need for personal trainers will soon be over.
I train in a large gym which when I joined had 4 personal trainers and now it only has one and I very rarely see him training anyone.
I dunno man, if you ask me, i can see the need growing even more. With people becoming lazier and lazier with each passing generation, motivation should become more and more in demand. Fair enough the tools are easier to come by for free, but being actively motivated and driven hard is something you cant get online
Ermh...yes you can. I usually listen to a motivational speech which is more than motivating. People are motivated by different things, those motivated by money won't get a personal trainer."
I didnt say anything anything about people being motivated by money
My point is if someone is lazy, they can watch as many clips or listen to motivational speeches online as they want...i cant see that beating a personal 1 on 1 experience in the gym when it comes to being pushed and motivated |
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"As a qualified personal trainer myself (not doing it so much anymore just a couple clients).
In this day and age the need for a personal trainer whether you are a beginner or intmediate isnt really needed.
everything you need to know about nutrition and workout routines is a finger tip away.
you tube will have videos showing you thousands of exercises and the techniques how to to do them.
which muscle groups to work together ect.
The only thing a personal trainer is useful for is to motivate and push somone to their limits.
but if somone was having 2 or 3 personal training sessions a week thats 70-100 pounds.
in ten weeks thats 700-1000 pounds (a nice lil holiday) if that isnt enough to motivate somome I dont know what is.
and now with all these new fitness apps coming out with various exercises to do on certain days I think the need for personal trainers will soon be over.
I train in a large gym which when I joined had 4 personal trainers and now it only has one and I very rarely see him training anyone.
true
i learnt so much from youtube and muscle & fitness forums too
the only thing i think i`d pay someone for now is a nutrition or prep plan"
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I've used personal trainers for years. I pay for their knowledge primarily and some big muscles and banter - but that's my preference. The guys at my place are all top notch, so I can discuss and debate sports science and health with them, during our free time.
I think some gyms now pretty much use their gym assistants rebranded as personal trainers. Minimally different expertise, if any.
I've only worked with very fit, good looking PTs - I like the sexy studs around me and wouldn't choose someone unfit, except where they had exceptional expertise and possibly banging me very well too. The arms on my current guy are bigger than my legs/waist - it's a novelty to fall into someone so big.
Overall, I'd not work with off the shelf pt - it's important to know what you need and find a match. The biggest aspect being knowledge and how they can teach and train you. |
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"As a qualified personal trainer myself (not doing it so much anymore just a couple clients).
In this day and age the need for a personal trainer whether you are a beginner or intmediate isnt really needed.
everything you need to know about nutrition and workout routines is a finger tip away.
you tube will have videos showing you thousands of exercises and the techniques how to to do them.
which muscle groups to work together ect.
The only thing a personal trainer is useful for is to motivate and push somone to their limits.
but if somone was having 2 or 3 personal training sessions a week thats 70-100 pounds.
in ten weeks thats 700-1000 pounds (a nice lil holiday) if that isnt enough to motivate somome I dont know what is.
and now with all these new fitness apps coming out with various exercises to do on certain days I think the need for personal trainers will soon be over.
I train in a large gym which when I joined had 4 personal trainers and now it only has one and I very rarely see him training anyone.
I dunno man, if you ask me, i can see the need growing even more. With people becoming lazier and lazier with each passing generation, motivation should become more and more in demand. Fair enough the tools are easier to come by for free, but being actively motivated and driven hard is something you cant get online
Ermh...yes you can. I usually listen to a motivational speech which is more than motivating. People are motivated by different things, those motivated by money won't get a personal trainer.
I didnt say anything anything about people being motivated by money
My point is if someone is lazy, they can watch as many clips or listen to motivational speeches online as they want...i cant see that beating a personal 1 on 1 experience in the gym when it comes to being pushed and motivated"
Well that's you then, I prefer to listen to motivational speeches at the gym rather than have some guy motivate me.
If someone is as lazy as you describe they probably won't even bother going to the gym.
PT's can be great but not for everyone. |
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I goto gym multiple times a week and honestly have pretty much no bloody clue. Im picking up stuff as I go, or youtube different exercises.
Havnt bothered with pt sessions as taster session gave me a list of stuff to do. Result was alot of different machines, shuffling around not focusing on anything.
I see lots of people doing the above, often taking longer to set up an exercise than the reps. That or terrible form, using huge weights but pulling with entire body, rather than specific muscle group.
Ill get a pt one day, just to push further. But it will need to be one who looks like they do the workout too. |
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"I goto gym multiple times a week and honestly have pretty much no bloody clue. Im picking up stuff as I go, or youtube different exercises.
Havnt bothered with pt sessions as taster session gave me a list of stuff to do. Result was alot of different machines, shuffling around not focusing on anything.
I see lots of people doing the above, often taking longer to set up an exercise than the reps. That or terrible form, using huge weights but pulling with entire body, rather than specific muscle group.
Ill get a pt one day, just to push further. But it will need to be one who looks like they do the workout too."
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"I goto gym multiple times a week and honestly have pretty much no bloody clue. Im picking up stuff as I go, or youtube different exercises.
Havnt bothered with pt sessions as taster session gave me a list of stuff to do. Result was alot of different machines, shuffling around not focusing on anything.
I see lots of people doing the above, often taking longer to set up an exercise than the reps. That or terrible form, using huge weights but pulling with entire body, rather than specific muscle group.
Ill get a pt one day, just to push further. But it will need to be one who looks like they do the workout too."
Stronglifts 5x5 is a pretty decent base for any routine. |
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Well surly you are paying for their knowledge and the results they get. Rather than what they look like, I mean D'Amato didn't look anything physically like Tyson but that didn't stop him getting the results.
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"I goto gym multiple times a week and honestly have pretty much no bloody clue. Im picking up stuff as I go, or youtube different exercises.
Havnt bothered with pt sessions as taster session gave me a list of stuff to do. Result was alot of different machines, shuffling around not focusing on anything.
I see lots of people doing the above, often taking longer to set up an exercise than the reps. That or terrible form, using huge weights but pulling with entire body, rather than specific muscle group.
Ill get a pt one day, just to push further. But it will need to be one who looks like they do the workout too.
Stronglifts 5x5 is a pretty decent base for any routine. "
Have started mixing such sessions into week. Atm I do 3-4 exercises a session, focused on a muscle group. Then I find a weight, aim for a set amount of reps, dropping in reps untill I have to stop. Once I can do 5 sets at say 10-15 reps, I up the weight untill its hard again.
Its working, I feel alot better and have alot more endurance and strength.
But 5x5 is nice to slip in now and again, though weight is rarely far above my normal reps. |
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"I goto gym multiple times a week and honestly have pretty much no bloody clue. Im picking up stuff as I go, or youtube different exercises.
Havnt bothered with pt sessions as taster session gave me a list of stuff to do. Result was alot of different machines, shuffling around not focusing on anything.
I see lots of people doing the above, often taking longer to set up an exercise than the reps. That or terrible form, using huge weights but pulling with entire body, rather than specific muscle group.
Ill get a pt one day, just to push further. But it will need to be one who looks like they do the workout too.
Stronglifts 5x5 is a pretty decent base for any routine.
Have started mixing such sessions into week. Atm I do 3-4 exercises a session, focused on a muscle group. Then I find a weight, aim for a set amount of reps, dropping in reps untill I have to stop. Once I can do 5 sets at say 10-15 reps, I up the weight untill its hard again.
Its working, I feel alot better and have alot more endurance and strength.
But 5x5 is nice to slip in now and again, though weight is rarely far above my normal reps."
Initially going for compound lifts works much better than isolation work for making/changing your body shape.
Iaolation is better later on for picking up your week spots.
But you'll find it hard to get the classic taper shape with isolation alone.
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I'm a gym instructor and although I'm fairly toned now not ripped in the last 2 years i have lost 5 stone ..... Am i a better instructor because I'm 5 stone lighter ..... Nope ..... Have I and my colleagues had A LOT of people buy into us because we are not ripped and cut and these people do not feel intimidated approaching us for health and fitness advice ....... Lots !
Yes playing devils advocate I do prefer a sports / fitness professional to "look" healthy but for many that look involves massive muscles and a 6 pack which is a massively media distorted view of healthy. |
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"I'm a gym instructor and although I'm fairly toned now not ripped in the last 2 years i have lost 5 stone ..... Am i a better instructor because I'm 5 stone lighter ..... Nope ..... Have I and my colleagues had A LOT of people buy into us because we are not ripped and cut and these people do not feel intimidated approaching us for health and fitness advice ....... Lots !
Yes playing devils advocate I do prefer a sports / fitness professional to "look" healthy but for many that look involves massive muscles and a 6 pack which is a massively media distorted view of healthy."
Now I heard everything
It's the medias fault we think healthy people have big muscles and a six pack
We are doomed, the world is over |
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I've had a couple of PT's in the past, both picked on the recommendation of others, both fit & regularly competing in their own fields.
For me the most important aspects is their knowledge, their ability to teach & get the best out of me.
However I do see where the OP is coming from, I like people who work in fitness to actually look like they practice what they preach. |
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My gym is exactly the same, 6 PTs and only one of them is in good shape.
I've recently qualified as a PT myself but I don't feel that I look like a PT yet, when I do I shall start getting clients. |
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I've had 3 trainers over the years and the one that was in good shape was fantastic....the other 2 were mediocre and didn't look in shape at all so there might be some truth in that x |
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"I've had 3 trainers over the years and the one that was in good shape was fantastic....the other 2 were mediocre and didn't look in shape at all so there might be some truth in that x"
Thank you, this tends to back my point up |
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"My gym is exactly the same, 6 PTs and only one of them is in good shape.
I've recently qualified as a PT myself but I don't feel that I look like a PT yet, when I do I shall start getting clients."
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"I've had a couple of PT's in the past, both picked on the recommendation of others, both fit & regularly competing in their own fields.
For me the most important aspects is their knowledge, their ability to teach & get the best out of me.
However I do see where the OP is coming from, I like people who work in fitness to actually look like they practice what they preach."
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"I'm a gym instructor and although I'm fairly toned now not ripped in the last 2 years i have lost 5 stone ..... Am i a better instructor because I'm 5 stone lighter ..... Nope ..... Have I and my colleagues had A LOT of people buy into us because we are not ripped and cut and these people do not feel intimidated approaching us for health and fitness advice ....... Lots !
Yes playing devils advocate I do prefer a sports / fitness professional to "look" healthy but for many that look involves massive muscles and a 6 pack which is a massively media distorted view of healthy.
Now I heard everything
It's the medias fault we think healthy people have big muscles and a six pack
We are doomed, the world is over "
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