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"And if the Leave campaign lost there wouldn't have been an identical petition posted by them? People were posting conspiracy theories about the Government fixing the vote before the voting ended." The pencil cases have been rather quiet.  | |||
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"And if the Leave campaign lost there wouldn't have been an identical petition posted by them? People were posting conspiracy theories about the Government fixing the vote before the voting ended." there is that irony.... but i just concentrate on one lot of irony at any one time otherwise i'd never get any sleep for the irony alarm going off at "chez fabs"... the alarm just went off that 2 of the first posters in this thread roll on about democracy... and yet lambasted nicola sturgeon for possibly giving scotland a democratic say post this result... its only democracy when it goes their way apparently....  | |||
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"So the country voted democratically to leave the EU, but hang on , the remains want another vote. It's like being back at school - best of 3 and if still not to their liking maybe best of 5" just as not all levers are racist not all remainers want another vote. | |||
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"And if the Leave campaign lost there wouldn't have been an identical petition posted by them? People were posting conspiracy theories about the Government fixing the vote before the voting ended. there is that irony.... but i just concentrate on one lot of irony at any one time otherwise i'd never get any sleep for the irony alarm going off at "chez fabs"... the alarm just went off that 2 of the first posters in this thread roll on about democracy... and yet lambasted nicola sturgeon for possibly giving scotland a democratic say post this result... its only democracy when it goes their way apparently.... " | |||
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"there is that irony.... but i just concentrate on one lot of irony at any one time otherwise i'd never get any sleep for the irony alarm going off at "chez fabs"... the alarm just went off that 2 of the first posters in this thread roll on about democracy... and yet lambasted nicola sturgeon for possibly giving scotland a democratic say post this result... its only democracy when it goes their way apparently.... "Lambasted? Where was that? | |||
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"People has spoken. Politicians should get their act to gether and do the job they elected to do. We are british, we are great.. We need to unite and carry on" | |||
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"The voting is over. There's not point going over it again and again. And you can't have another vote just because you didn't like the first one. It's that simple."
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"The voting is over. There's not point going over it again and again. And you can't have another vote just because you didn't like the first one. It's that simple." I thought it was just me that had missed the remains rules - best of 3 if we don't win | |||
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"And if the Leave campaign lost there wouldn't have been an identical petition posted by them? People were posting conspiracy theories about the Government fixing the vote before the voting ended. there is that irony.... but i just concentrate on one lot of irony at any one time otherwise i'd never get any sleep for the irony alarm going off at "chez fabs"... the alarm just went off that 2 of the first posters in this thread roll on about democracy... and yet lambasted nicola sturgeon for possibly giving scotland a democratic say post this result... its only democracy when it goes their way apparently.... "Except that the fragrant Nicola says 'majority rules' in Scotland (forgetting over a million Scots voted to Leave) but it doesn't rule in the UK. She then peddles the lie that this has anything to do with Independence. Another Referendum she wants to re-run. How many times do we do this? That is just being hypocritical. But I guess she will fit in well in the EU because that is what they do. Keep giving referendums until they get the answer they want. | |||
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"The voting is over. There's not point going over it again and again. And you can't have another vote just because you didn't like the first one. It's that simple.I thought it was just me that had missed the remains rules - best of 3 if we don't win " They're following Nigel's Rule! | |||
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"So the country voted democratically to leave the EU, but hang on , the remains want another vote. It's like being back at school - best of 3 and if still not to their liking maybe best of 5" actually the referendum campaign that you are inferring to was set up by a exit campaigner | |||
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"So the country voted democratically to leave the EU, but hang on , the remains want another vote. It's like being back at school - best of 3 and if still not to their liking maybe best of 5 actually the referendum campaign that you are inferring to was set up by a exit campaigner " but do you know that for sure - or was it a politician who told you that | |||
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"just checked - and can only find Nicola sturgeon mentioned in last post - not befor" well it did say explicitly in the snp manifesto that if there was a substantive change in circumstance... ie scotland voting to stay in by a large margin, but the uk voting out in any EU referendum (and god bless them...bless them because that was the actual example they used!) that would be cause for another referendum on independence.... so the conservatives honoured their manifesto promise... i would hope the snp honoured theirs so are they not entitled to theirs... because it seems like democracy is only a one way street.... I voted remain, the result didn't go my way... i'm, cool.... the great thing with democracy, is that with any decision there comes a consequence..... if the chance of the break up of the union for example is a consequence, then that should have been thought of.... | |||
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"So the country voted democratically to leave the EU, but hang on , the remains want another vote. It's like being back at school - best of 3 and if still not to their liking maybe best of 5 actually the referendum campaign that you are inferring to was set up by a exit campaigner but do you know that for sure - or was it a politician who told you that" Huffington post and the guy who started it is really pissed off | |||
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"there is that irony.... but i just concentrate on one lot of irony at any one time otherwise i'd never get any sleep for the irony alarm going off at "chez fabs"... the alarm just went off that 2 of the first posters in this thread roll on about democracy... and yet lambasted nicola sturgeon for possibly giving scotland a democratic say post this result... its only democracy when it goes their way apparently....
Lambasted? Where was that?"Fabio was first person here to even mention her! | |||
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"If the Leave campaign's peddled lies and bullshit was in a contract situation, the contract would be null and voided. Food for thought. I know a few people who've been reading the Leave back tracking. Safe to say they're well pissed of about it." So do tell me how can a campaign that is now finished 'backtrack'? This was not a General Election and there were no manifestos. All the 'Vote Leave' campaign offered were the freedoms a UK Government would have if we left the EU. And those freedoms and options are now available. I do know this a fact because I was one of the first to volunteer, campaigned for many weeks and delivered about 1500 leaflets in East Anglia. | |||
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"If the Leave campaign's peddled lies and bullshit was in a contract situation, the contract would be null and voided. Food for thought. I know a few people who've been reading the Leave back tracking. Safe to say they're well pissed of about it. So do tell me how can a campaign that is now finished 'backtrack'? This was not a General Election and there were no manifestos. All the 'Vote Leave' campaign offered were the freedoms a UK Government would have if we left the EU. And those freedoms and options are now available. I do know this a fact because I was one of the first to volunteer, campaigned for many weeks and delivered about 1500 leaflets in East Anglia." No claims were made at all?
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"Osbourne and Camaron told more lies than Brexit that is why I voted leave. How come the people that lost think it ok for there side to tell lies?" How many lies did each side tell? | |||
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"Because they won it based on lies, so that is why most want another referendum." Isnt every political vote based on lies? | |||
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"Osbourne and Camaron told more lies than Brexit that is why I voted leave. How come the people that lost think it ok for there side to tell lies? How many lies did each side tell? " I stopped counting at 157 each..... | |||
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"Osbourne and Camaron told more lies than Brexit that is why I voted leave. How come the people that lost think it ok for there side to tell lies? How many lies did each side tell? " A good question lol.Niether side had a true answer because they do not know in all honesty.I believe we will be better out in the long run but only if the bickering stops with both parties and the losers exept defeat and we all work to get the best result for our nation | |||
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"Osbourne and Camaron told more lies than Brexit that is why I voted leave. How come the people that lost think it ok for there side to tell lies?" well I looked at the likes of the owner of the scum and fail to see what type of person they were and as they were the lowest scum on earth I voted to stay | |||
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"Osbourne and Camaron told more lies than Brexit that is why I voted leave. How come the people that lost think it ok for there side to tell lies? well I looked at the likes of the owner of the scum and fail to see what type of person they were and as they were the lowest scum on earth I voted to stay " So 17.3 million Brits are scum? Oh wait .. you forgot the 'Racists', 'xenophobes', Little Englanders'....  | |||
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"And if the Leave campaign lost there wouldn't have been an identical petition posted by them? People were posting conspiracy theories about the Government fixing the vote before the voting ended." I've not read the thread so don't know if anyone's said this. The petition was posted BEFORE the vote by a pro-leave campaigner just in case they lost and would demand a second vote - just like our Nige wanted. Don't you love the irony? | |||
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"Osbourne and Camaron told more lies than Brexit that is why I voted leave. How come the people that lost think it ok for there side to tell lies? well I looked at the likes of the owner of the scum and fail to see what type of person they were and as they were the lowest scum on earth I voted to stay So 17.3 million Brits are scum? Oh wait .. you forgot the 'Racists', 'xenophobes', Little Englanders'.... "I stated the owner of the scum and fail (the sun and the daily mail ) were the scum of the earth please learn to read or get some one to read it to you | |||
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"Is boris back tracking on exiting the EU ?" yes saying we should not hurry the exit | |||
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"Because they won it based on lies, so that is why most want another referendum. Isnt every political vote based on lies?" That is right, but on an important thing like this and especially as you cant come back in the eu, they should be truthful. | |||
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"Is boris back tracking on exiting the EU ? yes saying we should not hurry the exit " I think it is a lot more than that Read a report on BBC about a column he has penned in Telegraph | |||
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"just checked - and can only find Nicola sturgeon mentioned in last post - not befor well it did say explicitly in the snp manifesto that if there was a substantive change in circumstance... ie scotland voting to stay in by a large margin, but the uk voting out in any EU referendum (and god bless them...bless them because that was the actual example they used!) that would be cause for another referendum on independence.... so the conservatives honoured their manifesto promise... i would hope the snp honoured theirs so are they not entitled to theirs... because it seems like democracy is only a one way street.... I voted remain, the result didn't go my way... i'm, cool.... the great thing with democracy, is that with any decision there comes a consequence..... if the chance of the break up of the union for example is a consequence, then that should have been thought of...." So we get rid of two lots of scroungers in one foul swoop, the EU and jocks. Win win  | |||
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"Is boris back tracking on exiting the EU ? yes saying we should not hurry the exit " Tactically probably the right thing to do to ensure the best possible deal. | |||
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"Is boris back tracking on exiting the EU ?" in a way DC has played a blinder Post brexit... because I thought leavers thought they would have cover at the next election saying the last PM did the exit negiations.... this way he hands the poison chalis to them.... you wanted out, you lead the charge, and you are the person who becomes all accountable.... | |||
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"Is boris back tracking on exiting the EU ? yes saying we should not hurry the exit Tactically probably the right thing to do to ensure the best possible deal." but thats not in the best interest of the other 27.... so what you may see now is that the EU say "no informal talks at all" and that puts the ball back in the UK's court... | |||
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"Is boris back tracking on exiting the EU ? yes saying we should not hurry the exit Tactically probably the right thing to do to ensure the best possible deal." we leave eu end of no deal no help we are on our own end of | |||
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"Is boris back tracking on exiting the EU ? yes saying we should not hurry the exit Tactically probably the right thing to do to ensure the best possible deal. but thats not in the best interest of the other 27.... so what you may see now is that the EU say "no informal talks at all" and that puts the ball back in the UK's court..." Of course, which is why EU wants quick action and why UK will delay. Not sure there is anything EU can do to accelerate invoking article 50. So all a bit of a mess  | |||
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"Is boris back tracking on exiting the EU ?" It's his own fault for ignoring my be carefull what you ask for as you may not like the answer you receive text | |||
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"Remainers DID NOT set up the petition!!!!!" Where does this come from.....? | |||
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"in a way DC has played a blinder Post brexit... " No he hasn't - he's just reinforced the opinion that he's one of the biggest c**** ever to have held the office, which, considering the recent holders, I suppose IS quite an achievement. Having spent the last six years pootling about achieving absolutely nothing, he spent the entire referendum campaign spouting OTT nonsense in an effort to frighten people into remaining, and, now he's lost, flounces off like a spoilt public schoolboy discovering that he hasn't been picked for the First XI. Screw him. A shallow empty PR man with no conviction, beliefs or guts whose only aim was to become PM. He could have led the Leave campaign and become another Churchill. Instead he sided with the EU bureaucracy and will go down as one of UK politics biggest losers. | |||
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"and of course we haven't exited yet with no plans or rush to do so either the vote is only advisory and parliament does not have to follow the voters results I wudnt be so surprised if brexit is deemed unachievable " Very true. It's only a mandate for the government if it's 40% or higher of the electorate (not actually those who voted). So, with only 75% of the electorate having voted only 34%+ voted leave. So the government can decide whether or not to actually go with it or not. Time will tell. | |||
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"I think we should just have a civil war a be done with it all "Oooh, London V the rest ? | |||
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"Because they won it based on lies, so that is why most want another referendum." I agree. And deliberate misinformation, insinuation, unfounded implying of what they'd spend the money on, and stirring up of xenophobia. I'd love a second referendum. The only problem is that it would set a very dangerous precedent democratically. - If any party were able to in future overturn the will of a majority of the electorate, then we would be in even more shit. | |||
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"and of course we haven't exited yet with no plans or rush to do so either the vote is only advisory and parliament does not have to follow the voters results I wudnt be so surprised if brexit is deemed unachievable Very true. It's only a mandate for the government if it's 40% or higher of the electorate (not actually those who voted). So, with only 75% of the electorate having voted only 34%+ voted leave. So the government can decide whether or not to actually go with it or not. Time will tell. " Parliament could easily find an anti-Brexit majority of votes. | |||
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"Luckily this isn't and will never be in the cards..... It's how democracy works......just sour grapes. Signing the "petition" is about as much use as putting the "Sydney University" shit on the end of your profile.....just takes up server space and shows a lack of common sense." | |||
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"https://www.rt.com/news/348429-europe-united-army-brexit/ Its reported that the eu commision are wanting to go ahead with a European army. So basically a army that will be under the control of a group of unelected people.(if nato wasnt already bad enough). I'm glad we are out of this undemocratic institution that is the eu (or soon will be)." They've had these suggestions before and have come to nothing. | |||
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"https://www.rt.com/news/348429-europe-united-army-brexit/ Its reported that the eu commision are wanting to go ahead with a European army. So basically a army that will be under the control of a group of unelected people.(if nato wasnt already bad enough). I'm glad we are out of this undemocratic institution that is the eu (or soon will be). They've had these suggestions before and have come to nothing. " let's hope it stays that way too  | |||
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"https://www.rt.com/news/348429-europe-united-army-brexit/ Its reported that the eu commision are wanting to go ahead with a European army. So basically a army that will be under the control of a group of unelected people.(if nato wasnt already bad enough). I'm glad we are out of this undemocratic institution that is the eu (or soon will be). They've had these suggestions before and have come to nothing. let's hope it stays that way too "Why are you so bothered if they do come to something? It won't involve the UK. | |||
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"Because they won it based on lies, so that is why most want another referendum.[/quote. It's so annoying when people say the leavers voted based on lies ! I voted out and because I believed what politicians said ! I don't believe ANY polititian, they are al only looking out for themselves. I made my own mind up on whether to vote in or out, as I'm sure most people did. We have lions on our national emblem not sheep ! The way I see it, good riddance to the EU and its do Gooders and money grabbers. We should now be concentrating on finding a person capable of actually leading the country in the future, we haven't needed one to make a real decision for 40 years !!! " | |||
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"So Great Britain is really important in the world after all, we leave and the EU will now implode , the troubles in Ireland will re start, Sturgeon will become Braveheart, Dover now becomes the first step in Britain from the continent not Calais....... Can't wait for the jungle to reappear next to the white cliffs. We will still be The 53rd state AKA as the US landing strip for and global bombing east of New York at least we won't have EU regulations on the size of bombs that can be used, after all we have a special relationship when it comes to bombing 3rd world countries but not that special for a trade deal between 2 of the 5 biggest economies in the world, Trillions wiped off people's pensions and abilities to repay debts and mortgages and for people to provide for their families globally, businesses are now terrified to invest and provide for their staff's futures but their staffs futures are not a problem as the companies now won't have the EU rules around workers rights to worry about, I'm sure I can go on but I have to do something really important like read the leave's manifesto for our fantastic future......... It's a series of white letters printed on a white sheet of paper by a bigoted double standards prick who has been taking the Eurpean MP's pay cheque for years while in fact he was a terrorist to peace and security our forefathers fought so hard to win and a buffoon who globally is a laughing stock one notch above Trump who wanted to finally get one over his Eton nemesis who beat him to everything he ever wanted to do .......... The world first self induced recession , those fossils voting with their grandkids future who longed for the good old days in bomb shelters and then progressed to power cuts when the lights went out and no bugger could work a full week as everyone went on strike and that life then was such a great legacy that they thought their open minded progressive multi cultural and diverse grandchildren should enjoy the pleasures they enjoyed to the full, I can't wait for the smog to reapper, the rivers to become open drains again life expectantcy to fall and everyone to start smoking so we can all die of cancer ....... Oh what fantastic days they were, thank god the leave manifesto was so convincing, will the last one out close the doors and turn the lights off. Still at least we can't now enter Eurovision so not all that bad a result , ps, all those in same sex relationships get ready because when the racists have finished driving all our fellow human beings to the borders we now own they will be back for you because we must go back to how things were when life was so good. Such a progressive species we are, how did Darwin get it so wrong about evolution........... Maybe we should put reverse and evolution together now what word would that make??????? " very well put | |||
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"https://www.rt.com/news/348429-europe-united-army-brexit/ Its reported that the eu commision are wanting to go ahead with a European army. So basically a army that will be under the control of a group of unelected people.(if nato wasnt already bad enough). I'm glad we are out of this undemocratic institution that is the eu (or soon will be). They've had these suggestions before and have come to nothing. let's hope it stays that way too
Why are you so bothered if they do come to something? It won't involve the UK. "because the last thing the world needs is more humans with guns. especially humans with guns under the command of unelected people who answer to no one. | |||
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"https://www.rt.com/news/348429-europe-united-army-brexit/ Its reported that the eu commision are wanting to go ahead with a European army. So basically a army that will be under the control of a group of unelected people.(if nato wasnt already bad enough). I'm glad we are out of this undemocratic institution that is the eu (or soon will be). They've had these suggestions before and have come to nothing. let's hope it stays that way too
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because the last thing the world needs is more humans with guns.
especially humans with guns under the command of unelected people who answer to no one."Hmm, that seems to be contrary to the complaints that our own military has been cut back. | |||
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"So Great Britain is really important in the world after all, we leave and the EU will now implode , the troubles in Ireland will re start, Sturgeon will become Braveheart, Dover now becomes the first step in Britain from the continent not Calais....... Can't wait for the jungle to reappear next to the white cliffs. We will still be The 53rd state AKA as the US landing strip for and global bombing east of New York at least we won't have EU regulations on the size of bombs that can be used, after all we have a special relationship when it comes to bombing 3rd world countries but not that special for a trade deal between 2 of the 5 biggest economies in the world, Trillions wiped off people's pensions and abilities to repay debts and mortgages and for people to provide for their families globally, businesses are now terrified to invest and provide for their staff's futures but their staffs futures are not a problem as the companies now won't have the EU rules around workers rights to worry about, I'm sure I can go on but I have to do something really important like read the leave's manifesto for our fantastic future......... It's a series of white letters printed on a white sheet of paper by a bigoted double standards prick who has been taking the Eurpean MP's pay cheque for years while in fact he was a terrorist to peace and security our forefathers fought so hard to win and a buffoon who globally is a laughing stock one notch above Trump who wanted to finally get one over his Eton nemesis who beat him to everything he ever wanted to do .......... The world first self induced recession , those fossils voting with their grandkids future who longed for the good old days in bomb shelters and then progressed to power cuts when the lights went out and no bugger could work a full week as everyone went on strike and that life then was such a great legacy that they thought their open minded progressive multi cultural and diverse grandchildren should enjoy the pleasures they enjoyed to the full, I can't wait for the smog to reapper, the rivers to become open drains again life expectantcy to fall and everyone to start smoking so we can all die of cancer ....... Oh what fantastic days they were, thank god the leave manifesto was so convincing, will the last one out close the doors and turn the lights off. Still at least we can't now enter Eurovision so not all that bad a result , ps, all those in same sex relationships get ready because when the racists have finished driving all our fellow human beings to the borders we now own they will be back for you because we must go back to how things were when life was so good. Such a progressive species we are, how did Darwin get it so wrong about evolution........... Maybe we should put reverse and evolution together now what word would that make??????? " Ha. Some of that is inaccurate, but I agree with most of your sentiments completely. Brave New World indeed.. | |||
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"https://www.rt.com/news/348429-europe-united-army-brexit/ Its reported that the eu commision are wanting to go ahead with a European army. So basically a army that will be under the control of a group of unelected people.(if nato wasnt already bad enough). I'm glad we are out of this undemocratic institution that is the eu (or soon will be). They've had these suggestions before and have come to nothing. let's hope it stays that way too
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especially humans with guns under the command of unelected people who answer to no one."That's a really good point. I have to say I'm ignorant of what NATO has actively done militarily. Can you enlighten this ignoramus? Seems to me that the EU kind of shuts its eyes and stops its ears when the UK or France decide to bomb the shit out of countries with no basic good reason, and that NATO is basically a deterrent to the Russians.WHich unfortunately we do need to some extent now. | |||
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"This is getting really boring seeing all this about the EU we are out of it now people need to just over it and get on with live simple as that " how crass ! we haven't seen anything yet and if ur bored with it don't read if you think its all over god help you | |||
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"This is getting really boring seeing all this about the EU we are out of it now people need to just over it and get on with live simple as that how crass ! we haven't seen anything yet and if ur bored with it don't read if you think its all over god help you " This is a lot of people getting bored of seen it all now it's not just me and I ain't saying it's all over I am saying we are out some people need to just get on with live I ain't bothered about it I want out the EU anyway | |||
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"sterling falls ever further !!! " it will bounce back...don't worry | |||
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"in a way DC has played a blinder Post brexit... No he hasn't - he's just reinforced the opinion that he's one of the biggest c**** ever to have held the office, which, considering the recent holders, I suppose IS quite an achievement. Having spent the last six years pootling about achieving absolutely nothing, he spent the entire referendum campaign spouting OTT nonsense in an effort to frighten people into remaining, and, now he's lost, flounces off like a spoilt public schoolboy discovering that he hasn't been picked for the First XI. Screw him. A shallow empty PR man with no conviction, beliefs or guts whose only aim was to become PM. He could have led the Leave campaign and become another Churchill. Instead he sided with the EU bureaucracy and will go down as one of UK politics biggest losers. " | |||
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"sterling falls ever further !!! it will bounce back...don't worry " Any idea when? | |||
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"sterling falls ever further !!! it will bounce back...don't worry Any idea when?" I like they way people are saying it will bounce back nothing as happened yet and nothing will have for a lest two years cos it takes two years to get everything sorted out all the paper work and all that | |||
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"This is getting really boring seeing all this about the EU we are out of it now people need to just over it and get on with live simple as that " If only it were that simple, major ramifications were not foreseen by much of your electorate it would seem which is a terrible shame. Dark days ahead I fear | |||
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"This is getting really boring seeing all this about the EU we are out of it now people need to just over it and get on with live simple as that If only it were that simple, major ramifications were not foreseen by much of your electorate it would seem which is a terrible shame. Dark days ahead I fear "Are people fort get if things get back witch I don't think it will we can always go back in the EU but I am sure we will be fine out of it and to be honest a lot of over place want to leave the EU now course we have | |||
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"The guy who started the petition is a leave supporter, who'd started it before the results, just in case. And Farage had said that he wouldn't have accepted a result with these numbers. " | |||
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"So the country voted democratically to leave the EU, but hang on , the remains want another vote. It's like being back at school - best of 3 and if still not to their liking maybe best of 5" exactly, they are not playing anymore, the want their ball back, like little spoilt kiddies at school | |||
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"The guy who started the petition is a leave supporter, who'd started it before the results, just in case. And Farage had said that he wouldn't have accepted a result with these numbers. " Just in case there are still people who don't realise this or are ignoring it. | |||
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"Actually: 1. Farage said, before the referendum, that if it was close, ( and if BREXIT lost) then he would demand another referendum. And again and again until he got "his" result. 2. have you seen the number of people who voted " leave", who now realise what they have done? They are the ones signing up now. Sadly, the UK deserves what it got. If people are so stupid that they voted for a bunch of complete lies, tough shit If people only found out what they were voting for, after the event, tough shit. It wasn't fucking X factor, it was real. I just feel so sorry for the younger generation who have been fucked over by idiots and xenophobes. As for the rest, tough, live with it. Luckily I don't have to. " your sorry for the younger generation, you saying the older generation should have no vote, you saying the ones who fought wars should have no say, opinion or vote? | |||
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"just checked - and can only find Nicola sturgeon mentioned in last post - not befor" Nope she's on another post, one I have commented on, who is she anyway | |||
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"Actually: 1. Farage said, before the referendum, that if it was close, ( and if BREXIT lost) then he would demand another referendum. And again and again until he got "his" result. 2. have you seen the number of people who voted " leave", who now realise what they have done? They are the ones signing up now. Sadly, the UK deserves what it got. If people are so stupid that they voted for a bunch of complete lies, tough shit If people only found out what they were voting for, after the event, tough shit. It wasn't fucking X factor, it was real. I just feel so sorry for the younger generation who have been fucked over by idiots and xenophobes. As for the rest, tough, live with it. Luckily I don't have to. " Bollocks, if you read some of the threads, you will see that some of the younger generation knew what to vote but didn't I don't listen to politicians as I have already worked out they lie, and the same lies every year like Corbyn said on the news last night 'we will create jobs' bullshit, same lie every year just to win votes and it doesn't happen so please don't tar us all with the same brush | |||
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"I think we should just have a civil war a be done with it all "who vs who ????? | |||
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"Actually: 1. Farage said, before the referendum, that if it was close, ( and if BREXIT lost) then he would demand another referendum. And again and again until he got "his" result. 2. have you seen the number of people who voted " leave", who now realise what they have done? They are the ones signing up now. Sadly, the UK deserves what it got. If people are so stupid that they voted for a bunch of complete lies, tough shit If people only found out what they were voting for, after the event, tough shit. It wasn't fucking X factor, it was real. I just feel so sorry for the younger generation who have been fucked over by idiots and xenophobes. As for the rest, tough, live with it. Luckily I don't have to. your sorry for the younger generation, you saying the older generation should have no vote, you saying the ones who fought wars should have no say, opinion or vote?" Where did I say that? Try reading. Or is that too difficult . | |||
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"Actually: 1. Farage said, before the referendum, that if it was close, ( and if BREXIT lost) then he would demand another referendum. And again and again until he got "his" result. 2. have you seen the number of people who voted " leave", who now realise what they have done? They are the ones signing up now. Sadly, the UK deserves what it got. If people are so stupid that they voted for a bunch of complete lies, tough shit If people only found out what they were voting for, after the event, tough shit. It wasn't fucking X factor, it was real. I just feel so sorry for the younger generation who have been fucked over by idiots and xenophobes. As for the rest, tough, live with it. Luckily I don't have to. your sorry for the younger generation, you saying the older generation should have no vote, you saying the ones who fought wars should have no say, opinion or vote? Where did I say that? Try reading. Or is that too difficult ." sorry buddy, you are the one who did not read, try reading again and when on the subject, it appears you are accusing all leave voters of being idiots and xenophobes, you want to make yourself exactly clear on that and say there may be a few bad apples, or as in your post do you consider everyone who voted leave idiots and xenophobes | |||
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"Funniest thing is the online petition was set up by a brexiter who was worried that they may lose, what does that say to you? It says to me that either side would have said the same thing regardless of how it went. " regardless of who set it up, it actually means nothing sad to see that we have over 3 million people that do not realise that | |||
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"Has rascist become the new buzzword for all lifes ills? " No racism isn't the new buzz word for life's ill's , it a fact of life everyday in our world we live in, real world. It's not long ago that a bit of racism started out by idealists who appealed to the ignorant and disenchanted people in society, they rallied under a nationalist banner and the minority became the majority because it was was ignored and left to grow inferred, thento build to the point where it took 6 years and a huge amount of human life lost to stop it. We have a brave new world, we built it back then and we have continued to build it for 70 years but I am afraid that with all the advances in technology,education,health and mobility allowing us to see world full of rich and diverse cultures, creeds, religions, and lifestyles all we have done is shown basic human neandrathal behaviors , "defend our borders against attack" "stop those barbarians coming in", "the bogey man will get us if we don't" , what next burning witches?, burning books?, taking the vote away from women, enslaving fellow humans, no racism is not the new buzz word it is a daily problem for our friends and neighbors as is equality for people who are gay,lesbian,bi or TG, for fuck sake we should be an educated race able to build a better world for all our fellow human beings living around the world not regress back into the dark ages on the back of one man being a racist and others jumping on his bandwagon albeit under a different name as the leave recognised Farage to be what he is and tried to distance from his name but not his behaviors. I have took a lifetime of struggling to get what I have and what I am, and overnight against my will I have had the world I have struggled to build ripped apart on the back of an ideology that belongs where it started in history. Lemmings come to mind. | |||
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"and of course we haven't exited yet with no plans or rush to do so either the vote is only advisory and parliament does not have to follow the voters results I wudnt be so surprised if brexit is deemed unachievable Very true. It's only a mandate for the government if it's 40% or higher of the electorate (not actually those who voted). So, with only 75% of the electorate having voted only 34%+ voted leave. So the government can decide whether or not to actually go with it or not. Time will tell. " I'd love to know where these made up figures are coming from. A referendum requires a SIMPLE majority of those who CHOSE to vote. Those who declined to vote abdicate their rights to have a say...or to moan about the result. There is nowhere in statute or law that says it must be more than any given percentage of the electorate. | |||
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