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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

How many people woke up this morning wondering why they voted to leave the EU !!!

And also thought what have we done ??

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By *ungBlackTopMan over a year ago

salford

I voted to stay so it's all your fault.

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By *urvymamaWoman over a year ago

Doncaster

I woke up the same way as I have every day since this whole debacle began, not giving a fuck either way.

Unless someone wants a shag then I might send a fuck their way

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By *enard ArgenteMan over a year ago

London and France

"How many people woke up this morning wondering why they voted to leave the EU !!!

And also thought what have we done ??"

No idea; but lots of people in UK googled " what is the EU? " yesterday; it was the most asked question .

another question was " I didn't understand what the referendum meant; how can I change my vote?"

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"How many people woke up this morning wondering why they voted to leave the EU !!!

And also thought what have we done ??"

No. But I wonder why people are such bad losers

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Atlong as we get the free trade deal we should be OK

Thing is, we'd have to still pay tho!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I woke up the next day and went to work same as every other day.

There is no magic solution to anything But I do believe that Britain should take a different route rather than be tied to the EU.

It's not actually free trade is it because you have to abide buy thier rules of trade and can only trade certain good to certain countries and pay a subscription to the club to be told to do this.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

sign the uk gov petition I have ! over 1 .2 million signitures already and parliament have to debate any petition over 100,000 signitures its calling for a re-vote

there was clear set percentges for a majority vote to be carried forward and also turn out % is also taken into account Thursday result fell far short of this

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"sign the uk gov petition I have ! over 1 .2 million signitures already and parliament have to debate any petition over 100,000 signitures its calling for a re-vote

there was clear set percentges for a majority vote to be carried forward and also turn out % is also taken into account Thursday result fell far short of this

Why have a re-vote? If over 100,000 people don't like the result of that one can we have another?

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By *iss_tressWoman over a year ago

London

"How many people woke up this morning wondering why they voted to leave the EU !!!

And also thought what have we done ??

No idea; but lots of people in UK googled " what is the EU? " yesterday; it was the most asked question .

another question was " I didn't understand what the referendum meant; how can I change my vote?"

...please tell me you're joking!!!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"How many people woke up this morning wondering why they voted to leave the EU !!!

And also thought what have we done ??

No idea; but lots of people in UK googled " what is the EU? " yesterday; it was the most asked question .

another question was " I didn't understand what the referendum meant; how can I change my vote?"

"
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So?.

What's your solution....a dictatorship?

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By *enard ArgenteMan over a year ago

London and France

"How many people woke up this morning wondering why they voted to leave the EU !!!

And also thought what have we done ??

No idea; but lots of people in UK googled " what is the EU? " yesterday; it was the most asked question .

another question was " I didn't understand what the referendum meant; how can I change my vote?"

...please tell me you're joking!!!

Nope.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"How many people woke up this morning wondering why they voted to leave the EU !!!

And also thought what have we done ??

No idea; but lots of people in UK googled " what is the EU? " yesterday; it was the most asked question .

another question was " I didn't understand what the referendum meant; how can I change my vote?"

...please tell me you're joking!!!

Sadly it's true

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

rome wasn't built in a day

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple over a year ago

in Lancashire

"How many people woke up this morning wondering why they voted to leave the EU !!!

And also thought what have we done ??

No idea; but lots of people in UK googled " what is the EU? " yesterday; it was the most asked question .

another question was " I didn't understand what the referendum meant; how can I change my vote?"

...please tell me you're joking!!!

Nope."

i heard it on the beeb from a French journalist in Brussels that the most googled was 'what does it mean if the UK leaves the EU'..

all much of a muchness..

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"sign the uk gov petition I have ! over 1 .2 million signitures already and parliament have to debate any petition over 100,000 signitures its calling for a re-vote

there was clear set percentges for a majority vote to be carried forward and also turn out % is also taken into account Thursday result fell far short of this

So we doing referendums until you get the results you like, get idea

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"sign the uk gov petition I have ! over 1 .2 million signitures already and parliament have to debate any petition over 100,000 signitures its calling for a re-vote

there was clear set percentges for a majority vote to be carried forward and also turn out % is also taken into account Thursday result fell far short of this

So we doing referendums until you get the results you wont, get idea "

I think it was head kipper Nigel who said he'd contest it if it went the other way and it was within a few %

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Let's just keep voting till the mouthiest undemocratic bad losers stop shouting then that must mean we've got upon the "correct" result..

So can I assume that from now on the same will apply in general elections if I don't happen to like the result??

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"sign the uk gov petition I have ! over 1 .2 million signitures already and parliament have to debate any petition over 100,000 signitures its calling for a re-vote

there was clear set percentges for a majority vote to be carried forward and also turn out % is also taken into account Thursday result fell far short of this

What your basically saying is "I didn't like the outcome can we do it again"

It's like when you lose at Rock Paper Scissors then immediately shout

"Best of three"

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

So if it had been 51- 49 to remain would we be having another referendum? Would we put the country on hold until we had a 65-35 split?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

i heard it on the beeb from a French journalist in Brussels that the most googled was 'what does it mean if the UK leaves the EU'..

all much of a muchness.."

If this is true then it's a god thing that people are researching what it all means

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"So if it had been 51- 49 to remain would we be having another referendum? Would we put the country on hold until we had a 65-35 split?"

According to Nigel yes

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"sign the uk gov petition I have ! over 1 .2 million signitures already and parliament have to debate any petition over 100,000 signitures its calling for a re-vote

there was clear set percentges for a majority vote to be carried forward and also turn out % is also taken into account Thursday result fell far short of this

So we doing referendums until you get the results you wont, get idea

I think it was head kipper Nigel who said he'd contest it if it went the other way and it was within a few %"

I voted out and still wouldn't support Nigel if the referendum had been to stay in, it's done now asking for another is just miss things up even more.

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By *uttyjonnMan over a year ago

SEA

"sign the uk gov petition I have ! over 1 .2 million signitures already and parliament have to debate any petition over 100,000 signitures its calling for a re-vote

there was clear set percentges for a majority vote to be carried forward and also turn out % is also taken into account Thursday result fell far short of this

So are you saying that the some rules regarding the vote were broken and therefore it should be null and void - or are you saying you just did not get the result you wanted?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"sign the uk gov petition I have ! over 1 .2 million signitures already and parliament have to debate any petition over 100,000 signitures its calling for a re-vote

there was clear set percentges for a majority vote to be carried forward and also turn out % is also taken into account Thursday result fell far short of this

So we doing referendums until you get the results you like, get idea

Isn't that what Sturgeon is doing?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Can we have a re run of last season because I'm really not happy about finishing 2nd behind Leicester.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"So if it had been 51- 49 to remain would we be having another referendum? Would we put the country on hold until we had a 65-35 split?

According to Nigel yes

Never forget he's a cunt.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"sign the uk gov petition I have ! over 1 .2 million signitures already and parliament have to debate any petition over 100,000 signitures its calling for a re-vote

there was clear set percentges for a majority vote to be carried forward and also turn out % is also taken into account Thursday result fell far short of this

So we doing referendums until you get the results you like, get idea

Isn't that what Sturgeon is doing? "

Yes, and what they did in Ireland.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Thats not democratic and if thst's the way it goes then I will not bother to even vote again because it means nothing!

either we accept the vote or we do not either way the EU will still veto Britain because they will then have us by the Balls and will just squeeze them

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

HM government states that if the leave or remain vote was less than a 60% majority and less than a 75% turnout then a 2nd EU referendum maybe triggered if it was petitioned high enough

parliament debate all petitions with 100.000 signitures or more the EU petition currently stands at 1,211,078

http/uk.gov/parliament/petitions

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I woke up the same way as I have every day since this whole debacle began, not giving a fuck either way.

Unless someone wants a shag then I might send a fuck their way

Shag please

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

This is the same bollocks as the 2000 bollocks.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"HM government states that if the leave or remain vote was less than a 60% majority and less than a 75% turnout then a 2nd EU referendum maybe triggered if it was petitioned high enough

parliament debate all petitions with 100.000 signitures or more the EU petition currently stands at 1,211,078

http/uk.gov/parliament/petitions"

So next time it go's remain by 2% we have a third go, then a fourth

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

is this a case of Ve Have Vays of making you vote YES" (in a moke german accent of the 70's)

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"HM government states that if the leave or remain vote was less than a 60% majority and less than a 75% turnout then a 2nd EU referendum maybe triggered if it was petitioned high enough

parliament debate all petitions with 100.000 signitures or more the EU petition currently stands at 1,211,078

http/uk.gov/parliament/petitions

So next time it go's remain by 2% we have a third go, then a fourth

best of 3 er! no tell you what best of 5.

sounds like a playground

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"HM government states that if the leave or remain vote was less than a 60% majority and less than a 75% turnout then a 2nd EU referendum maybe triggered if it was petitioned high enough

parliament debate all petitions with 100.000 signitures or more the EU petition currently stands at 1,211,078

http/uk.gov/parliament/petitions

So next time it go's remain by 2% we have a third go, then a fourth

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hey there NOT my rules !!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"HM government states that if the leave or remain vote was less than a 60% majority and less than a 75% turnout then a 2nd EU referendum maybe triggered if it was petitioned high enough

parliament debate all petitions with 100.000 signitures or more the EU petition currently stands at 1,211,078

http/uk.gov/parliament/petitions

So next time it go's remain by 2% we have a third go, then a fourth

hey there NOT my rules !! "

No but you said you agreed with it, not blame you, to me it's just totally mad to go through all of this again.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Referendum????? What Referendum???

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"HM government states that if the leave or remain vote was less than a 60% majority and less than a 75% turnout then a 2nd EU referendum maybe triggered if it was petitioned high enough

parliament debate all petitions with 100.000 signitures or more the EU petition currently stands at 1,211,078

http/uk.gov/parliament/petitions

So next time it go's remain by 2% we have a third go, then a fourth

hey there NOT my rules !!

No but you said you agreed with it, not blame you, to me it's just totally mad to go through all of this again."

If it were the other way round Nigel would chanting again again

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"sign the uk gov petition I have ! over 1 .2 million signitures already and parliament have to debate any petition over 100,000 signitures its calling for a re-vote

there was clear set percentges for a majority vote to be carried forward and also turn out % is also taken into account Thursday result fell far short of this

If the result was to remain then if the leave campaingers demand a recount or re-vote wouldn't the opposing side same they are all sore losers too?

Its democratic voting people need to accept the outcome and get on with their lives.

Or maybe we should go for best out of three???...hmmm

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By *all and ChainWoman over a year ago

Truro

"HM government states that if the leave or remain vote was less than a 60% majority and less than a 75% turnout then a 2nd EU referendum maybe triggered if it was petitioned high enough

parliament debate all petitions with 100.000 signitures or more the EU petition currently stands at 1,211,078

http/uk.gov/parliament/petitions"

Cameroon ("I'm not staying and doing the hard shit") stated in his role as PM just after 8 am on 24th June 2016 that the british public have voted and decided and their decision will be abided by.

The EU now wants a quicki divorce and not a long protracted one.

Boris the mop and allies don't want a quickie because they need time to make deals for personal betterment.

There isn't a politician (or civil servant) alive who can handle it well, which is mainly what the OUT vote was about, it wasn't an OUT vote, it was a stop the fucking train / none of the above vote.

Everyone else in your street being able to tell you what you can and cannot do is the very definition of democracy, if you don't want democracy feel free to pledge your allegiance to another system, there are several on offer in the UK right now.

"big goveernment" / parliament / eu parliament / bankers / multinationals are the problem.

I belive fab allows links to youtube, so here is one in polish with english subtitles, you like democracy and there are thre quarters of a million poles in the uk now so they should have a say too..

https://youtu.be/SFVGWZmAL5c

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By *nleashedCrakenMan over a year ago

Widnes

"rome wasn't built in a day"

But it was destroyed in a day. Just for historical accuracy.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"rome wasn't built in a day

But it was destroyed in a day. Just for historical accuracy."
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Which day was that then!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"sign the uk gov petition I have ! over 1 .2 million signitures already and parliament have to debate any petition over 100,000 signitures its calling for a re-vote

there was clear set percentges for a majority vote to be carried forward and also turn out % is also taken into account Thursday result fell far short of this

If the result was to remain then if the leave campaingers demand a recount or re-vote wouldn't the opposing side same they are all sore losers too?

Its democratic voting people need to accept the outcome and get on with their lives.

Or maybe we should go for best out of three???...hmmm

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they are NOT my rules !

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"rome wasn't built in a day

But it was destroyed in a day. Just for historical accuracy..

Which day was that then!"

probabley sunday just after tea Lol

Soz could not help myself

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"rome wasn't built in a day

But it was destroyed in a day. Just for historical accuracy."

Didn't Nero play with his fiddle then, dirty sod

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By *etter the devil you knowWoman over a year ago

Lyndhurst

"How many people woke up this morning wondering why they voted to leave the EU !!!

And also thought what have we done ??

No. But I wonder why people are such bad losers

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By *horehouseCouple over a year ago

dissatisfied

"HM government states that if the leave or remain vote was less than a 60% majority and less than a 75% turnout then a 2nd EU referendum maybe triggered if it was petitioned high enough

parliament debate all petitions with 100.000 signitures or more the EU petition currently stands at 1,211,078

http/uk.gov/parliament/petitions

So next time it go's remain by 2% we have a third go, then a fourth

hey there NOT my rules !!

No but you said you agreed with it, not blame you, to me it's just totally mad to go through all of this again.

If it were the other way round Nigel would chanting again again

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"rome wasn't built in a day

But it was destroyed in a day. Just for historical accuracy.

Didn't Nero play with his fiddle then, dirty sod

It is said that he liked a fiddle most nights

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"How many people woke up this morning wondering why they voted to leave the EU !!!

And also thought what have we done ??"

About the same as the people who voted remain I would assume.

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By *etter the devil you knowWoman over a year ago

Lyndhurst

Why would people regret how they voted they have had long enough to think about it.

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By *hetalkingstoveMan over a year ago

London

"How many people woke up this morning wondering why they voted to leave the EU !!!

And also thought what have we done ??

No. But I wonder why people are such bad losers

This isn't a game of football. It's a huge decision that's going to make life a lot harder and scarier. You can't expect people just to nod and say 'fair enough' and keep quiet about there concerns, especially when it seems a large number of the Leave vote didn't really know what they were even voting for.

If Remain had won then Farage and his Tory pals wouldn't have given up. They'd have been doing the same as the Remain side is now.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

In the USA they have the wilderness of Alaska where people can just go 'off grid' and live their lives pretty much unhindered. I'm beginning to think that's the ultimate solution to all this political bollocks

The trouble is that the equivalent we have around here is Mid-Wales...!!!...lol.

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By *VBethTV/TS over a year ago

Chester

"HM government states that if the leave or remain vote was less than a 60% majority and less than a 75% turnout then a 2nd EU referendum maybe triggered if it was petitioned high enough

parliament debate all petitions with 100.000 signitures or more the EU petition currently stands at 1,211,078

http/uk.gov/parliament/petitions"

I'm afraid that quote is the wish of the person who started the petition, not the word of Government. If the Government decided to ignore the wishes of over 17 million people to have another referendum to please 1 million petitioners then democracy has failed. The votes have been counted and we know the result. We cannot keep calling for further referenda until the minority get the result they want.

The idea behind the figures the petition starter chose is that with the country unable to reach a 60% majority and voter turn out NEVER being that high, the status quo would keep us in Europe. In other words, it is a new way of attempting to force Remain on everyone.

For better or for worse, the nation has spoken.

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By *layfulCouple86Couple over a year ago

Lancashire

"I woke up the same way as I have every day since this whole debacle began, not giving a fuck either way.

Unless someone wants a shag then I might send a fuck their way

Fancy sending a fuck our way

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By *ity Slickers PartiesCouple (MM) over a year ago

Milan, Italy

So does this mean we have to go back to calling Europe "The Continent", asking if it's safe to drink the water and saying, "yes, it was a lovely trip but I wouldn't want to live there"?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

What will be, will be. The referendum has been and gone, the decision was made, time to move forward and not look back. End off

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By *ELLONS AND CREAMWoman over a year ago

stourbridge area

"I woke up the next day and went to work same as every other day.

There is no magic solution to anything But I do believe that Britain should take a different route rather than be tied to the EU.

It's not actually free trade is it because you have to abide buy thier rules of trade and can only trade certain good to certain countries and pay a subscription to the club to be told to do this.

Exactly this.

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By *ELLONS AND CREAMWoman over a year ago

stourbridge area

"sign the uk gov petition I have ! over 1 .2 million signitures already and parliament have to debate any petition over 100,000 signitures its calling for a re-vote

there was clear set percentges for a majority vote to be carried forward and also turn out % is also taken into account Thursday result fell far short of this

Well perhaps if the 17 million who didnt vote Had voted then the outcome would have been ddifferent

But im guessing a lot of fhose people now are the ones who are having a winge cause it didnt go the way they planned ..

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By *all and ChainWoman over a year ago

Truro

Oh for fucks sake..... forum rules... you know, there is a difference between being abusive towards someone and expressing utter contempt for their stated POV.

Anyone who is "scared" by the prospect of a country that has been in existence for over 2000 years leaving a union that it has been a part of for only 40 years, a union that has done as much bad as good, needs to wake up and smell the roses.

Y'all talk a big heap of shit about democracy when it doesn't go your way, well 51% remain would mean that democratically the entire population of the UK would be pretty heavily influenced and controlled by the likes of Junker and Merkel and pretty soon Erdogan, who if I recall correctly never stood for by election in Staines west.

EU is a *POLITICAL* union, no big deal to not want to be in one.

You want something to worry about, how about something that applies to the UK whether we are in or out of the EU, the small fact that we have basically no manufacturing industry left, we have basically no farming industry left (Tesco "Home farm" produce imported from argentina, where they are having food riots) and no basic scientific literacy in our school leavers.

In or out of the EU is rearranging the deck chairs on the titanic.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"sign the uk gov petition I have ! over 1 .2 million signitures already and parliament have to debate any petition over 100,000 signitures its calling for a re-vote

there was clear set percentges for a majority vote to be carried forward and also turn out % is also taken into account Thursday result fell far short of this

When the petition reaches 17.4 million then I will pay attention. Until then its just a rather sad example of the bad losers we have created in society...

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By *nleashedCrakenMan over a year ago

Widnes

I'm totally torn. My heart as a democratic says I should accept the decision, that we should now all pull together to get the best deal we can from the EU and then all work together to make Britain as prosperous and strong as possible outside the EU.

But my head tells me that, however successful we maybe outside the EU, we will still be less successful then we would have been if we had remained.

We now hear from BREXIT itself that they lied about the £350 million a day they said we send each day and that they have no plans to actually reduce immigration either from the EU or the rest of the world.

If the people had been told the truth they may have voted differently.

But then maybe they wouldn't.

Nigel Fararge also said that he would be campaigning for a second referendum if the vote was something like 48% to 52%. I guess he only meant if BREXIT lost.

I'm probably going to sign the petition because I still believe that this decision is bad for Britain but I'm not sure that a second referendum would produce a different result but it would definitely be even more divisive.

Maybe, what we all have to do, is accept that the votes have been cast, the decision made and now all roll our collective sleaves up and get down to making the best future we can outside the EU.

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By *esi tardkaCouple over a year ago

acton

"How many people woke up this morning wondering why they voted to leave the EU !!!

And also thought what have we done ??

No. But I wonder why people are such bad losers

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"How many people woke up this morning wondering why they voted to leave the EU !!!

And also thought what have we done ??

No. But I wonder why people are such bad losers

If it would have been the other way it would have been the same.

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By *nleashedCrakenMan over a year ago

Widnes

"How many people woke up this morning wondering why they voted to leave the EU !!!

And also thought what have we done ??

No. But I wonder why people are such bad losers

If it would have been the other way it would have been the same.

My country, right or wrong; if right, to be kept right; and if wrong, to be set right.

But what is right now?

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By *riskynriskyCouple over a year ago

Essex.

Maybe we could build better trade links with other commonwealth countries.

We let in Europeans without a blink, yet turn away people from countries that have sworn allegiance to our Queen and country...

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Maybe we could build better trade links with other commonwealth countries.

We let in Europeans without a blink, yet turn away people from countries that have sworn allegiance to our Queen and country..."

But we already do trade with all of our Commonwealth partners as we trade with countries all over the world. We have trade agreements in place already. We now have freedom outside the EU to reduce the tariffs on those countries and improve our trade.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

https://youtu.be/i9cLwoTkWes

Not all bad news afterall.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"How many people woke up this morning wondering why they voted to leave the EU !!!

And also thought what have we done ??"

Not me .

Just as happy now as I was when the result came through

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By *htcMan over a year ago

nope i woke up, and read the news, and was in shock, and thought was the best thing that has happened to us, celebration time, took the family out on the evening. happy days

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By *imiUKMan over a year ago

Hereford

I'm genuinely surprised at the number of people who think that we have left Europe (as opposed to the EU)....

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By *etter the devil you knowWoman over a year ago

Lyndhurst

"nope i woke up, and read the news, and was in shock, and thought was the best thing that has happened to us, celebration time, took the family out on the evening. happy days"

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By *ancyDrewWoman over a year ago

Glasgow

I was VERY much in the Remain team, but you really do have to feel sorry for the idiots who voted to Leave purely based on what they were told by the Leave side. It took Farage mere hours before admitting the £350m for the NHS was a lie and then that other twat yesterday saying that there was no way they could really deliver on Immigration. It's no wonder people are angry.

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By *hetalkingstoveMan over a year ago

London

Oh for fucks sake..... forum rules... you know, there is a difference between being abusive towards someone and expressing utter contempt for their stated POV.

EU is a *POLITICAL* union, no big deal to not want to be in one.

In or out of the EU is rearranging the deck chairs on the titanic."

So basically, you want to be personally abusive to me but won't because you know its against the rules?

Lovely. You sound great.

Democracy means accepting the results of elections and referendums. 'Accepting' means not having a coup. It doesn't mean shutting up and not expressing your opinions.

Maybe everything will be fine in the long run, but you dont know that. Being abusive to people who are worried about the future achieves nothing.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"HM government states that if the leave or remain vote was less than a 60% majority and less than a 75% turnout then a 2nd EU referendum maybe triggered if it was petitioned high enough

parliament debate all petitions with 100.000 signitures or more the EU petition currently stands at 1,211,078

http/uk.gov/parliament/petitions

So next time it go's remain by 2% we have a third go, then a fourth

hey there NOT my rules !! "

They are made up rules by a nobody and you are incorrect stating they were government policy.

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By *ost SockMan over a year ago

West Wales and Cardiff

"How many people woke up this morning wondering why they voted to leave the EU !!!

And also thought what have we done ??

No. But I wonder why people are such bad losers

We're not bad losers. Nigel Farage said 52:48 was unfinished business. That's a green light for us to keep droning on, thank you very much

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"How many people woke up this morning wondering why they voted to leave the EU !!!

And also thought what have we done ??

No. But I wonder why people are such bad losers

We're not bad losers. Nigel Farage said 52:48 was unfinished business. That's a green light for us to keep droning on, thank you very much

Well it is frankly. Just because I didn't want to leave this week, doesn't mean I don't want to leave in 5 years!

Why on earth would any rational person want to remain in the EU unless it could be reformed? There has to be some limit on how long it has to be reformed.

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By *urreyfun38Couple over a year ago

croydon

"sign the uk gov petition I have ! over 1 .2 million signitures already and parliament have to debate any petition over 100,000 signitures its calling for a re-vote

there was clear set percentges for a majority vote to be carried forward and also turn out % is also taken into account Thursday result fell far short of this

Why have a re-vote? If over 100,000 people don't like the result of that one can we have another? "

Let's have a debate. But what happens when someone starts a petition to have article 50 invoked now and gets the the required 100,000 signatures.

What mess.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"How many people woke up this morning wondering why they voted to leave the EU !!!

And also thought what have we done ??

No. But I wonder why people are such bad losers

We're not bad losers. Nigel Farage said 52:48 was unfinished business. That's a green light for us to keep droning on, thank you very much

Most people who voted leave couldn't careless about what Farage says. If it wasn't for him the margin would have been greater.

Please do not tar us all with the same brush.

It's finished lets all move forward together.

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By *ost SockMan over a year ago

West Wales and Cardiff

I'm devastated by the result, but don't want a second referendum.

The country got what it wanted.

Get on with it - no using the EU as an excuse any more (sometimes correctly, often wrongly). No hiding.

Good luck.

Watching with interest.

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By *ee VianteWoman over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk

I'd like a referendum on whether we can talk about something else now!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I'm devastated by the result, but don't want a second referendum.

The country got what it wanted.

Get on with it - no using the EU as an excuse any more (sometimes correctly, often wrongly). No hiding.

Good luck.

Watching with interest."

Exactly this......... My thinking

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By *HaRiFMan over a year ago

Beyond the shadows.

"I'd like a referendum on whether we can talk about something else now!"

I'm with you on that one

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By *icketysplitsWoman over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

"How many people woke up this morning wondering why they voted to leave the EU !!!

And also thought what have we done ??

No. But I wonder why people are such bad losers

We're not bad losers. Nigel Farage said 52:48 was unfinished business. That's a green light for us to keep droning on, thank you very much

I was angry with Farage when he said it and don't see it as a reason to run another divisive, hate-fuelled, bloody expensive referendum. We can have 50 referenda and the numbers will broadly be the same.

I'd have preferred a different outcome and it is ironic that it is exactly the 52/48 Farage quoted when he was ready to concede before the count but we would be stupid to do this again. Even more stupid than where we are now.

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By *ensualtouch15Man over a year ago

ashby de la zouch

"How many people woke up this morning wondering why they voted to leave the EU !!!

And also thought what have we done ??

No. But I wonder why people are such bad losers

We're not bad losers. Nigel Farage said 52:48 was unfinished business. That's a green light for us to keep droning on, thank you very much

Most people who voted leave couldn't careless about what Farage says. If it wasn't for him the margin would have been greater.

Please do not tar us all with the same brush.

It's finished lets all move forward together."

You do mean backwards don't you lol

So two years of lawyers negotiations and unrest only to achieve what we already have no better no worse only slightly different with a slight change of the demographic portion who is better and who is worse off in numbers just as now some will benefit greatly some will be at a disadvantaged some will make no difference

Waste of time money effort

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By *urvymamaWoman over a year ago

Doncaster

"I was VERY much in the Remain team, but you really do have to feel sorry for the idiots who voted to Leave purely based on what they were told by the Leave side. It took Farage mere hours before admitting the £350m for the NHS was a lie and then that other twat yesterday saying that there was no way they could really deliver on Immigration. It's no wonder people are angry."

While you're calling people idiots just remember you voted for a system in need of serious reform if it was to be of any benefit to the uk, so they may deem you the idiot too. Not everyone that voted to leave did so because of a false promiseas most I've spoke to knew it would be a false promise and because of immigration because yet again most knew the borders wouldn't slam miraculously shut, they are smart enough to know a certain level of immigration is beneficial if it's fulfilling vital job Roles etc it's just they wanted to have the power to have more control over it as a nation. Don't believe everything that Chanel in the governments pocket 4 tells you

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By *ancyDrewWoman over a year ago

Glasgow

I didn't say everyone who voted, I said those that fell for the lies, do learn to make the distinction. And for what it's worth, I did my research, thanks.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I didn't say everyone who voted, I said those that fell for the lies, do learn to make the distinction. And for what it's worth, I did my research, thanks."

People who fall for politicians lies are stupid. Are you saying stupid people shouldn't be allowed to vote?

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By *olgateMan over a year ago

on the road to nowhere in particular

http://youtu.be/i9cLwoTkWes

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By *ancyDrewWoman over a year ago

Glasgow

At what point did I say that? I didn't.

It was pretty obvious that we were being told lies re: NHS and Immigration and simple research proved that. I am saying I feel sorry for those people who voted based on that as they believed what they were told and didn't bother to fact check first.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"HM government states that if the leave or remain vote was less than a 60% majority and less than a 75% turnout then a 2nd EU referendum maybe triggered if it was petitioned high enough

parliament debate all petitions with 100.000 signitures or more the EU petition currently stands at 1,211,078

http/uk.gov/parliament/petitions"

That's not true. There were no such stipulations for the referendum that took place on Thursday. However, that is what the petitioners are requesting.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"At what point did I say that? I didn't.

Why do you feel sorry for them? People get the leaders they deserve.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"HM government states that if the leave or remain vote was less than a 60% majority and less than a 75% turnout then a 2nd EU referendum maybe triggered if it was petitioned high enough

parliament debate all petitions with 100.000 signitures or more the EU petition currently stands at 1,211,078

http/uk.gov/parliament/petitions

That's not true. There were no such stipulations for the referendum that took place on Thursday. However, that is what the petitioners are requesting."

*now that they know the outcome

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By *ancyDrewWoman over a year ago

Glasgow

"At what point did I say that? I didn't.

Why do you feel sorry for them? People get the leaders they deserve. "

What have leaders got to do with this at all?! Do you NOT feel bad for those on the Leave side who feel let down and lied to?

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By *yrdwomanWoman over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum

I found out today that both Scotland and N Ireland might be able to veto the referendum result. Might put a cat amongst the pigeons that.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"How many people woke up this morning wondering why they voted to leave the EU !!!

And also thought what have we done ??

No. But I wonder why people are such bad losers

It isn't a matters of 'winners' or 'losers' in my eyes

The general population are in this together whether they like it or not.

So rather than barracking each other across the room, how about we pull together to ensure that when we do leave, we are in the best possible position to either benefit from it or to stem the fall out from it.

Oh and I voted to stay

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

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By *olgateMan over a year ago

on the road to nowhere in particular

"I found out today that both Scotland and N Ireland might be able to veto the referendum result. Might put a cat amongst the pigeons that.

Scotland have their own agenda. Europe have much more to lose from Brexit than we do, once it settles down, we lose 1% of gdp to Europe but gain 10% by being able to trade freely with the rest of the world. I believe there is a lot of posturing going on by the EU because they are losing face. Merkel seems to be reading it right.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"sign the uk gov petition I have ! over 1 .2 million signitures already and parliament have to debate any petition over 100,000 signitures its calling for a re-vote

there was clear set percentges for a majority vote to be carried forward and also turn out % is also taken into account Thursday result fell far short of this

On what planet do these made up percentages exist?

Elections or referenda are decided by simple majority of those that could be arsed to vote.

Those that don't vote have abdicated there right to comment. While you may have voted....and therefore can comment as you see fit (even quoting fiction as fact should you so wish). Anyone who didn't bother to vote can just shut the %#*$ up.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"At what point did I say that? I didn't.

Why do you feel sorry for them? People get the leaders they deserve.

What have leaders got to do with this at all?! Do you NOT feel bad for those on the Leave side who feel let down and lied to?"

It was a vote about whether you want leaders in the EU to have power here or not!

No I don't feel sorry for them in the least. I pay my taxes to provide free education in this country. If that education system produces people too stupid to scrutinise politicians on basic points of logic then I want my money back.

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By *ancyDrewWoman over a year ago

Glasgow

So now YOU are saying stupid people can't vote? Like, the referendum, I'm out! Good Luck to you

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I found out today that both Scotland and N Ireland might be able to veto the referendum result. Might put a cat amongst the pigeons that.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"sign the uk gov petition I have ! over 1 .2 million signitures already and parliament have to debate any petition over 100,000 signitures its calling for a re-vote

there was clear set percentges for a majority vote to be carried forward and also turn out % is also taken into account Thursday result fell far short of this

On what planet do these made up percentages exist?

Bullshit land

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I found out today that both Scotland and N Ireland might be able to veto the referendum result. Might put a cat amongst the pigeons that.

Where did you find this out....? Because someone is feeding you porky pies!

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By *urreyfun38Couple over a year ago

croydon

"I found out today that both Scotland and N Ireland might be able to veto the referendum result. Might put a cat amongst the pigeons that.

Not a chance of that happening.Someones wishful thinking.

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By *ee VianteWoman over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk

"I found out today that both Scotland and N Ireland might be able to veto the referendum result. Might put a cat amongst the pigeons that.

I fully expect Scotland to leave the UK now. Maybe Ireland too.

We have interesting times ahead, certainly.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I found out today that both Scotland and N Ireland might be able to veto the referendum result. Might put a cat amongst the pigeons that.

I fully expect Scotland to leave the UK now. Maybe Ireland too.

We have interesting times ahead, certainly."

Scotland never made it and Northern Ireland were knocked out today. Ironically England and Wales are still in

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By *albec26Man over a year ago

Great Yarmouth

But surely with Brussels stating they want the uk divorce to be actioned quickly, the EU is not going to wait for the uk to set up another referendum. They are pushing for 'Dave' to give notice on Tuesday at their dinner. We need to accept it and move on.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I think everyone should calm down. Already Germany is suggesting that the UK should become an Associated Partner [AP]. That would be easy for the UK to achieve as we can demonstrate that we abide by or already meet the conditions for such an agreement. The criterion are;

- Intention to establish close economic and political cooperation (more than simple cooperation);

- Creation of paritary bodies for the management of the cooperation, competent to take decisions that bind the contracting parties;

- Offering Most Favoured Nation treatment;

- Providing for a privileged relationship between the EC and its partner;

- Since 1995 the clause on the respect of human rights and democratic principles is systematically included and constitutes an essential element of the agreement;

"In a large number of cases, the association agreement replaces a cooperation agreement thereby intensifying the relations between the partners.

The EU typically concludes Association Agreements in exchange for commitments to political, economic, trade, or human rights reform in a country. In exchange, the country may be offered tariff-free access to some or all EU markets (industrial goods, agricultural products, etc.), and financial or technical assistance. Most recently signed AAs also include a Free Trade Agreement (FTA) between the EU and the third country."

—?European External Action Service

The USA, Canada and Australia want to sign trade agreements with the UK. The GBP has recovered as has the FTSE. It is not all gloom and doom. Money talks. Follow the money.

Our biggest problem is finding politicians/diplomats/statesmen & women who have enough intelligence, gravity and credibility to negotiate such agreements. A tall order I fear.

Just my tuppence worth for what it's worth

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Maybe we could build better trade links with other commonwealth countries.

We let in Europeans without a blink, yet turn away people from countries that have sworn allegiance to our Queen and country...

We can do what we like with tariffs or not....most of the tactics we impose on other countries, or have imposed by them on us...are because the EU has told us what we can/can't do.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"So now YOU are saying stupid people can't vote? Like, the referendum, I'm out! Good Luck to you"

Lol! You are the one labelling them stupid in the first place and your evidence is that they don't agree with you.

You think one side lied and the other fought a Nobel fight with truth as it's weapon and dignity as it's shield! Politicans lie, on both sides, because it wins votes. If it didn't, they wouldn't do it. That's why people get the leaders they deserve.

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By *errygTV/TS over a year ago

denton

my football team only lost by 1 goal can we have a rematch, it maybe easy to get 100000 signatures as the remain lot will sign, bad losers

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By *albec26Man over a year ago

Great Yarmouth

"I think everyone should calm down. Already Germany is suggesting that the UK should become an Associated Partner [AP]. That would be easy for the UK to achieve as we can demonstrate that we abide by or already meet the conditions for such an agreement. The criterion are;

- Intention to establish close economic and political cooperation (more than simple cooperation);

- Creation of paritary bodies for the management of the cooperation, competent to take decisions that bind the contracting parties;

- Offering Most Favoured Nation treatment;

- Providing for a privileged relationship between the EC and its partner;

- Since 1995 the clause on the respect of human rights and democratic principles is systematically included and constitutes an essential element of the agreement;

"In a large number of cases, the association agreement replaces a cooperation agreement thereby intensifying the relations between the partners.

—?European External Action Service

The USA, Canada and Australia want to sign trade agreements with the UK. The GBP has recovered as has the FTSE. It is not all gloom and doom. Money talks. Follow the money.

Our biggest problem is finding politicians/diplomats/statesmen & women who have enough intelligence, gravity and credibility to negotiate such agreements. A tall order I fear.

Just my tuppence worth for what it's worth

Well said that man!!!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Just for the record I am not an idiot thank you. And it was the lies and Project Fear from the Remain side that I didn't believe. I have worked in Europe and I have seen how excessive migration has badly affected the country I love and had the privilege to serve.

And it doesn't make you look clever to misquote people just because they happen to be Nigel Farage. He didn't actually say wht you allege.

And just remember Old Son that over 17 million of us agreed with him over the EU. Throwing the toys out of the pram and being a bad loser are very childish ....

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"rome wasn't built in a day"

But it was built on treachery

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By *LCCCouple over a year ago

Cambridge

"How many people woke up this morning wondering why they voted to leave the EU !!!

And also thought what have we done ??

No. But I wonder why people are such bad losers

Farage said that he would want another referendum if it had been as close as 48/52%. Well if it has been for remain anyway!

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By *ancyDrewWoman over a year ago

Glasgow

And it doesn't make you look clever to misquote people just because they happen to be Nigel Farage. He didn't actually say wht you allege.

And just remember Old Son that over 17 million of us agreed with him over the EU. Throwing the toys out of the pram and being a bad loser are very childish ...."

Farage at no point tried to distance himself from the Leave claims re: NHS and Immigration!! Regardless of your view, that IS v clear. And as none of you seem to be able to distinguish. I said that I feel sorry for those that voted based on what Farage and others claimed re: NHS and Immigration when it was SO OBVIOUSLY bullshit. And that has been PROVED by what they have publicly said post result. AT NO POINT did I say EVERYONE who voted Leave was stupid. Don't twist my words to suit yourselves.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

- Intention to establish close economic and political cooperation (more than simple cooperation);

- Creation of paritary bodies for the management of the cooperation, competent to take decisions that bind the contracting parties;

- Offering Most Favoured Nation treatment;

- Providing for a privileged relationship between the EC and its partner;

- Since 1995 the clause on the respect of human rights and democratic principles is systematically included and constitutes an essential element of the agreement;

"In a large number of cases, the association agreement replaces a cooperation agreement thereby intensifying the relations between the partners.

—?European External Action Service

The USA, Canada and Australia want to sign trade agreements with the UK. The GBP has recovered as has the FTSE. It is not all gloom and doom. Money talks. Follow the money.

Our biggest problem is finding politicians/diplomats/statesmen & women who have enough intelligence, gravity and credibility to negotiate such agreements. A tall order I fear.

Just my tuppence worth for what it's worth

Common sense and money will prevail, those talking of doom and damnation need to give the process a chance. I strongly suspect not a huge amount will change and in a few years we will wonder what all the fuss was about.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

And it doesn't make you look clever to misquote people just because they happen to be Nigel Farage. He didn't actually say wht you allege.

And just remember Old Son that over 17 million of us agreed with him over the EU. Throwing the toys out of the pram and being a bad loser are very childish ....

In the interest of consistency, do you feel sorry for people that get scammed by online messages from the 'princess of Nigeria'?

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By *ancyDrewWoman over a year ago

Glasgow

In the interest of consistency, do you feel sorry for people that get scammed by online messages from the 'princess of Nigeria'? "

Not necessarily those people but (old) people who fall for scams in general

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By *ancyDrewWoman over a year ago

Glasgow

And it doesn't make you look clever to misquote people just because they happen to be Nigel Farage. He didn't actually say wht you allege.

And just remember Old Son that over 17 million of us agreed with him over the EU. Throwing the toys out of the pram and being a bad loser are very childish ...."

Also, thanks for the "Old Son" nothing childish about transhobic comments.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

In the interest of consistency, do you feel sorry for people that get scammed by online messages from the 'princess of Nigeria'?

Not necessarily those people but (old) people who fall for scams in general"

That's pretty much the extent of credibility I give anything that comes out a politicans mouth.

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By *olgateMan over a year ago

on the road to nowhere in particular

Has anyone seen this?

http://youtu.be/i9cLwoTkWes

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Effectively the UK has voted to leave the EU based upon 40% of the eligible electorate voting for it. That's the fun of living in a democracy in guess. A lot of lies were stated by both sides which didn't really help people make a decision. The irony for labour supporters is that you have just paved the way for a more right wing government #savetheNHS who don't yet have a plan on how to exit the EU. Perhaps if they weren't too busy climbing the greasy pole for their own self intrests they might have thought about forward planning so we could make an informed choice. #whatafuckup

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Has anyone seen this?

http://youtu.be/i9cLwoTkWes

Yes just watched it. Brilliant. But boy can that man speak fast ...

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Effectively the UK has voted to leave the EU based upon 40% of the eligible electorate voting for it. That's the fun of living in a democracy in guess. A lot of lies were stated by both sides which didn't really help people make a decision. The irony for labour supporters is that you have just paved the way for a more right wing government #savetheNHS who don't yet have a plan on how to exit the EU. Perhaps if they weren't too busy climbing the greasy pole for their own self intrests they might have thought about forward planning so we could make an informed choice. #whatafuckup "

...and your point IS exactly?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Non voters should be rounded up and shot.

In the short term it does seem labour voters have screwed themselves. They'll miss the European working time directive when it's gone. Of course at some point (after Corbyn has left) they will get back into power and then they will have more powers to do what they want and so it's swings and roundabouts.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

And less than the 40% that voted to leave voted stay in. Meaning more voted to leave than stay.

My 5 year old is learning the difference between 'greater' and 'less than' at primary school. Do you want her to teach you too

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By *LCCCouple over a year ago

Cambridge

someone said follow the money, well the bank of England thinks it might need to provide £250billion in additional funds.

Put another way to save £350,000,000 per week, it might cost us £250,000,000,000. So to actually achieve a saving it might take 714 weeks, or more than 13 years.

But the £350m per week didn't include the rebate, so if we take the more accurate £190m per week, it will take us 1,315 weeks, or just over 25 years to realise a saving.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

" Also, thanks for the "Old Son" nothing childish about transhobic comments. "

OK so where did I express any hatred for transgender people in any of my posts? Nowhere.

Not being too clued up on the nuances of Transvestism / Transgenderism (or whatever the labels are) I used an old military expression. I guess when my old WO called us oicks 'Ladees' maybe I should have lodged an objection... But if I have caused offence it was unintentional.

Oh wait .. when you lose an argument you play the 'transhobic' card? Just asking like. Every day is a school day.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Is a narrow majority sufficient to give a mandate for such a decision when it actually only 40% of the eligible electorate. To avoid any question over legitimacy a 60% level as prorposed would have given legitimacy and saved the i'll feeling that currently exits between the two sides. It would have allowed both sides to come together and move forward.

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By *eloMan over a year ago

Hackney

Sadly the unelected euro beurocrats didn't listen to our peoples desires and issues. Now they'll have to as the rest of Europe follow suit. Love that Italian guy wish we had him over here!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Is a narrow majority sufficient to give a mandate for such a decision when it actually only 40% of the eligible electorate. To avoid any question over legitimacy a 60% level as prorposed would have given legitimacy and saved the i'll feeling that currently exits between the two sides. It would have allowed both sides to come together and move forward. "

There is no ill feeling from the leave side. It's remain that keep bitching on about it.

Grow up and get over it.

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By *ancyDrewWoman over a year ago

Glasgow

Thanks for apologising. And yeah, if someone calls me any form of male ID-ing pronoun of course am going to take exception to it! And I knew Old Son was a military term, but it's not generally aimed at women. So, no, perceived losing an argument does not force me, at least, to play any sort of card. Again, I do appreciate you taking the time to explain and apologise x

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By *igsteve43Man over a year ago

derby

I believe the real difference between us idiot leave voters and the remain voters is that 5yrs from one if we are on our knees in the midst of a massive recession we will be the first to say OK yes we were young. If however we are prospering the ramain voters still won't admit they were young

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"someone said follow the money, well the bank of England thinks it might need to provide £250billion in additional funds.

Put another way to save £350,000,000 per week, it might cost us £250,000,000,000. So to actually achieve a saving it might take 714 weeks, or more than 13 years.

But the £350m per week didn't include the rebate, so if we take the more accurate £190m per week, it will take us 1,315 weeks, or just over 25 years to realise a saving."

What a totally irrelevant argument. That fund is a standby fund to give markets reassurance. And even if it is used it buys bonds. Which the Bank or Treasury holds. As they did in 2008 / 09 and which they then sell on at a profit. As we did in 2014 / 15.

And if you want to get into the EU numbers here they are: (HM Treasury figures)

Year Budget Rebate Nett

2010 £15,197 £3,047 £12,150

2011 £15,357 £3,143 £12,214

2012 £15,746 £3,110 £12,636

2013 £18,135 £3,674 £14,461

2014 £19,234 £4,888 £14,346

Average £16,734 £3,572 £13,161

Weekly £322 £69 £253

2014

Weekly £359 £82 £277

Bottom line is we give the EU in cash £13.2 Bn a year average (it was £14.4 Bn in 2014). A sum that has increased by some 18% in 5 years. We have NO control over that cash and one of the reasons why I voted to leave.

I would rather the Bank of England had that cash than the EU. You may of course disagree....

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By *entaur_UKMan over a year ago

Cannock

"How many people woke up this morning wondering why they voted to leave the EU !!!

And also thought what have we done ??"

I woke up very happy with the result. Over the moon in fact.

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By *olgateMan over a year ago

on the road to nowhere in particular

The EUrozone has stagnated with no growth over the past few years with no growth while the rest of the world has moved on. Much has been made of the drop in the ftse by 5% but no mention of France dropping 6% and Germany dropping nearly 7%.

Currency speculators are having a field day at the moment but that will settle down shortly. Sterling always drops during the summer months

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By *yrdwomanWoman over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum

Cameron didn't trigger Article 50 before he left.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"someone said follow the money, well the bank of England thinks it might need to provide £250billion in additional funds.

Put another way to save £350,000,000 per week, it might cost us £250,000,000,000. So to actually achieve a saving it might take 714 weeks, or more than 13 years.

But the £350m per week didn't include the rebate, so if we take the more accurate £190m per week, it will take us 1,315 weeks, or just over 25 years to realise a saving."

Good maths. The operative word is 'might'. The BofE might not. And the way it's looking it won't have to. That was said to take the wind out of the sails of the self fulfilling prophesy chancers in the stock markets. Follow the real money. The UK imports ten times more from the EU than it exports. Money will talk. We may even sign a Customs Union Agreement. After all, Turkey, who won't be joining the EU for 'three decades' have had one since 1995. The EU is currently negotiating with Azerbaijan - that well known custodian of civil and human rights - for an Association/Partnership Agreement and throwing millions of Euros at them. Why? Oil. Money. They want them to build a pipeline to Europe. Guess where that will be routed through? Armenia, which is already an Associate Partner [2013] and...........Turkey???

Follow the money - the real money.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Cameron didn't trigger Article 50 before he left."

he hasn't actually left ...

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By *nleashedCrakenMan over a year ago

Widnes

" I believe the real difference between us idiot leave voters and the remain voters is that 5yrs from one if we are on our knees in the midst of a massive recession we will be the first to say OK yes we were young. If however we are prospering the ramain voters still won't admit they were young "

You're probably right but, if you believe that we would have been more prosperous in the EU than we will be out then whether in 5 years time we are actually either richer or poorer than now I'll still believe that we would probably have been richer still if we had remained.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"How many people woke up this morning wondering why they voted to leave the EU !!!

And also thought what have we done ??"

I was surprised. Didn't expect the 'establishment' to allow it.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Believe what you like but you can't prove it. It's all just opinion.

We could be in recession in 5 years but whos to say it wouldn't be worse in the EU? No one knows. All we know is we have to accept it and move on.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"How many people woke up this morning wondering why they voted to leave the EU !!!

And also thought what have we done ??"

The negative will always be the bigger news.

I feel way more informed now than before I made the bloody vote!!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"How many people woke up this morning wondering why they voted to leave the EU !!!

And also thought what have we done ??

The negative will always be the bigger news.

I feel way more informed now than before I made the bloody vote!!"

I'm glad I'm not the only one to feel like that

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I'm genuinely surprised at the number of people who think that we have left Europe (as opposed to the EU)....

Me too. Its 'up-anchor' and get the tugboats to tow us off in a NorthWesterly direction, somewhere into the mid-Atlantic

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

i think we`ve made the rest of the world stand up n take notice.we don`t have control of our country anymore.people gave their lives to give us wat he have today and we should remember that.

these EU twats are threatening us already and not understanding why we want to exit.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"How many people woke up this morning wondering why they voted to leave the EU !!!

And also thought what have we done ??

I woke up very happy with the result. Over the moon in fact.

Me too.

Guess we are two of the 17odd million that also feel that sense of relief

Those who didnt vote exercised their democratic right. Like those who do vote.

I do understand that the remain camp feel upset. So I think we should all take some time to let the results settle then come together to fight for the right way forward for our country x

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By *rishbeefstickMan over a year ago

Westside

It feels odd that they left and it's really real too..It was so close as well...I can see Europe falling apart over the next 10-15 years if not sooner... Back to old currency and new trade and border agreements is gonna be a real fucker to handle..I'm from Ireland and if we get a referendum on a United Ireland then I happy about brexit. It'll be the first time in 800 years that we are free from the shackles of the empire! I never thought this could possibly happen in my lifetime let alone my parents...in my eyes being able to drive anywhere on this (MY) island and say it's truly mine (ours the Irish) will be better than being in Europe and anything it offers me. Maybe all of our (UK & Ireland) debts to Europe will be scrapped! Now that would be a great perk of brexit! I'm rambling now.........

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"sign the uk gov petition I have ! over 1 .2 million signitures already and parliament have to debate any petition over 100,000 signitures its calling for a re-vote

there was clear set percentges for a majority vote to be carried forward and also turn out % is also taken into account Thursday result fell far short of this

Sturgeon and Khan's grovelling Brussels rabble are getting even more hysterical than they were before the referendum!

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By *rishbeefstickMan over a year ago

Westside

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By *ngel n tedCouple over a year ago

maidstone

Brexiteers should have an online petition against the online petition, the government would have to look at that as well if it hit 100,000, democracy at work

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"rome wasn't built in a day

But it was destroyed in a day. Just for historical accuracy..

Which day was that then!"

The day we joined it?

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By *enard ArgenteMan over a year ago

London and France

So the BREXIT won.

Now; BREXITeers; you were passionate and vocal in order to win; fine.

You have a job to complete.

You voted because you were promised that all the money that you were told went to Europe, is going to be spent on the NHS.

Make sure it is. Every penny . Make them prove it, You know how much it is; it was written on Boris's bus. If they don't, hold their feet to the fire.

You were promised that Migration would be totally under control. Make sure it is. Make them prove it. If they don't, hold their feet to the fire .

You were promised fantastic trade deals that would outstrip anything the EU would do. Make sure they do. Make them prove it. Hold their feet to the fire.

You were promised that the UK would no longer have to agree to European laws. Make sure that UK drops all EU laws. Every one of them. If they don't, hold their feet to the fire.

You were promised that no more money would be paid to the EU, once the exit from the EU was completed. Make sure it isn't. Not one penny. Make them prove it.

That will do for starters.

If they don't come good on their promises, you know what to do; you put energy and passion into winning the vote; fair enough.

You were hold the truth by the BREXIT campaign we assume?

Your job now is to continue with your energy and passion to ensure that all these truths come to fruition, and that all these promises are fulfilled.

Should be easy, BREXIT said it would be.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

no voted out and glad we did,could somebody please tell me why we should have stayed

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By *ildt123Man over a year ago

Huddersfield

"Maybe we could build better trade links with other commonwealth countries.

We let in Europeans without a blink, yet turn away people from countries that have sworn allegiance to our Queen and country..."

Yes because there are virtually no Indian, Pakistani, West Indian, Ghanaian or Australian people in the UK.

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By *ildt123Man over a year ago

Huddersfield

The turn out was about 72% of which 52% roughly voted for out. Democracy at work. If we want to have 50% plus of the potential electorate to pass anything we would have to make it unlawful to not vote ( unenforceable) but we would never make a decision on anything!

Every MP every government we have had would be null and void.

I was a remain voter ( very ambivalent one) but it is what it is, let's accept it and get the best deal we can. Yes I think the Brexit campaign was built on lies but none of them told the truth from start to finish.

But if who ever is PM agrees to free movement to get trade deals there will be some seriously angry folk.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"How many people woke up this morning wondering why they voted to leave the EU !!!

And also thought what have we done ??"

Our conscious's are clear Its the Right thing to do

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By *horehouseCouple over a year ago

dissatisfied

"So the BREXIT won.

Now; BREXITeers; you were passionate and vocal in order to win; fine.

You have a job to complete.

You voted because you were promised that all the money that you were told went to Europe, is going to be spent on the NHS.

Make sure it is. Every penny . Make them prove it, You know how much it is; it was written on Boris's bus. If they don't, hold their feet to the fire.

You were promised that Migration would be totally under control. Make sure it is. Make them prove it. If they don't, hold their feet to the fire .

You were promised fantastic trade deals that would outstrip anything the EU would do. Make sure they do. Make them prove it. Hold their feet to the fire.

You were promised that the UK would no longer have to agree to European laws. Make sure that UK drops all EU laws. Every one of them. If they don't, hold their feet to the fire.

You were promised that no more money would be paid to the EU, once the exit from the EU was completed. Make sure it isn't. Not one penny. Make them prove it.

That will do for starters.

If they don't come good on their promises, you know what to do; you put energy and passion into winning the vote; fair enough.

You were hold the truth by the BREXIT campaign we assume?

Your job now is to continue with your energy and passion to ensure that all these truths come to fruition, and that all these promises are fulfilled.

Should be easy, BREXIT said it would be."

Well said

Tough times ahead for the politicians ...but it will be ok they will still blame the EU and 51% of the voting public will believe them

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"So the BREXIT won.

Now; BREXITeers; you were passionate and vocal in order to win; fine.

You have a job to complete.

You voted because you were promised that all the money that you were told went to Europe, is going to be spent on the NHS.

Make sure it is. Every penny . Make them prove it, You know how much it is; it was written on Boris's bus. If they don't, hold their feet to the fire.

You were promised that Migration would be totally under control. Make sure it is. Make them prove it. If they don't, hold their feet to the fire .

You were promised fantastic trade deals that would outstrip anything the EU would do. Make sure they do. Make them prove it. Hold their feet to the fire.

You were promised that the UK would no longer have to agree to European laws. Make sure that UK drops all EU laws. Every one of them. If they don't, hold their feet to the fire.

You were promised that no more money would be paid to the EU, once the exit from the EU was completed. Make sure it isn't. Not one penny. Make them prove it.

That will do for starters.

If they don't come good on their promises, you know what to do; you put energy and passion into winning the vote; fair enough.

You were hold the truth by the BREXIT campaign we assume?

Your job now is to continue with your energy and passion to ensure that all these truths come to fruition, and that all these promises are fulfilled.

Should be easy, BREXIT said it would be."

And what are you going to do? Are you 'barley'? Are you going to sit in the corner with a 'titty' lip on?

I find the reactions to the result very strange. A lot of people hoping that their nation fails just so that they can have their smug 'told you so' moment.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"So the BREXIT won.

Now; BREXITeers; you were passionate and vocal in order to win; fine.

You have a job to complete.

You voted because you were promised that all the money that you were told went to Europe, is going to be spent on the NHS.

Make sure it is. Every penny . Make them prove it, You know how much it is; it was written on Boris's bus. If they don't, hold their feet to the fire.

You were promised that Migration would be totally under control. Make sure it is. Make them prove it. If they don't, hold their feet to the fire .

You were promised fantastic trade deals that would outstrip anything the EU would do. Make sure they do. Make them prove it. Hold their feet to the fire.

You were promised that the UK would no longer have to agree to European laws. Make sure that UK drops all EU laws. Every one of them. If they don't, hold their feet to the fire.

You were promised that no more money would be paid to the EU, once the exit from the EU was completed. Make sure it isn't. Not one penny. Make them prove it.

That will do for starters.

If they don't come good on their promises, you know what to do; you put energy and passion into winning the vote; fair enough.

You were hold the truth by the BREXIT campaign we assume?

Your job now is to continue with your energy and passion to ensure that all these truths come to fruition, and that all these promises are fulfilled.

Should be easy, BREXIT said it would be.

Well said

Tough times ahead for the politicians ...but it will be ok they will still blame the EU and 51% of the voting public will believe them "

No one is going to spend all of the money saved on the NHS because it has to be spread out with all of the tother things that need money as well.

Thats not rocket science really and and most people would know this and yes that includes BREXIT supporters

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By *igsteve43Man over a year ago

derby

"So the BREXIT won.

Now; BREXITeers; you were passionate and vocal in order to win; fine.

You have a job to complete.

You voted because you were promised that all the money that you were told went to Europe, is going to be spent on the NHS.

Make sure it is. Every penny . Make them prove it, You know how much it is; it was written on Boris's bus. If they don't, hold their feet to the fire.

You were promised that Migration would be totally under control. Make sure it is. Make them prove it. If they don't, hold their feet to the fire .

You were promised fantastic trade deals that would outstrip anything the EU would do. Make sure they do. Make them prove it. Hold their feet to the fire.

You were promised that the UK would no longer have to agree to European laws. Make sure that UK drops all EU laws. Every one of them. If they don't, hold their feet to the fire.

You were promised that no more money would be paid to the EU, once the exit from the EU was completed. Make sure it isn't. Not one penny. Make them prove it.

That will do for starters.

If they don't come good on their promises, you know what to do; you put energy and passion into winning the vote; fair enough.

You were hold the truth by the BREXIT campaign we assume?

Your job now is to continue with your energy and passion to ensure that all these truths come to fruition, and that all these promises are fulfilled.

Should be easy, BREXIT said it would be.

And what are you going to do? Are you 'barley'? Are you going to sit in the corner with a 'titty' lip on?

I find the reactions to the result very strange. A lot of people hoping that their nation fails just so that they can have their smug 'told you so' moment."

The thing is most people who voted leave did not do so based on what we're frankly empty promises though actually they never said they would spend all the money on the NHS just that they could they also suggested scrapping fuel duty which we all know will not happen.

A lot of people voted to get democracy back.

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By *horehouseCouple over a year ago

dissatisfied

"So the BREXIT won.

Now; BREXITeers; you were passionate and vocal in order to win; fine.

You have a job to complete.

You voted because you were promised that all the money that you were told went to Europe, is going to be spent on the NHS.

Make sure it is. Every penny . Make them prove it, You know how much it is; it was written on Boris's bus. If they don't, hold their feet to the fire.

You were promised that Migration would be totally under control. Make sure it is. Make them prove it. If they don't, hold their feet to the fire .

You were promised fantastic trade deals that would outstrip anything the EU would do. Make sure they do. Make them prove it. Hold their feet to the fire.

You were promised that the UK would no longer have to agree to European laws. Make sure that UK drops all EU laws. Every one of them. If they don't, hold their feet to the fire.

You were promised that no more money would be paid to the EU, once the exit from the EU was completed. Make sure it isn't. Not one penny. Make them prove it.

That will do for starters.

If they don't come good on their promises, you know what to do; you put energy and passion into winning the vote; fair enough.

You were hold the truth by the BREXIT campaign we assume?

Your job now is to continue with your energy and passion to ensure that all these truths come to fruition, and that all these promises are fulfilled.

Should be easy, BREXIT said it would be.

And what are you going to do? Are you 'barley'? Are you going to sit in the corner with a 'titty' lip on?

I find the reactions to the result very strange. A lot of people hoping that their nation fails just so that they can have their smug 'told you so' moment.

A lot of people voted to get democracy back.

Ah democratic back tracking going to be plenty of that in the next few years...

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By *ity Slickers PartiesCouple (MM) over a year ago

Milan, Italy

"So the BREXIT won.

Now; BREXITeers; you were passionate and vocal in order to win; fine.

You have a job to complete.

You voted because you were promised that all the money that you were told went to Europe, is going to be spent on the NHS.

Make sure it is. Every penny . Make them prove it, You know how much it is; it was written on Boris's bus. If they don't, hold their feet to the fire.

You were promised that Migration would be totally under control. Make sure it is. Make them prove it. If they don't, hold their feet to the fire .

You were promised fantastic trade deals that would outstrip anything the EU would do. Make sure they do. Make them prove it. Hold their feet to the fire.

You were promised that the UK would no longer have to agree to European laws. Make sure that UK drops all EU laws. Every one of them. If they don't, hold their feet to the fire.

You were promised that no more money would be paid to the EU, once the exit from the EU was completed. Make sure it isn't. Not one penny. Make them prove it.

That will do for starters.

If they don't come good on their promises, you know what to do; you put energy and passion into winning the vote; fair enough.

You were hold the truth by the BREXIT campaign we assume?

Your job now is to continue with your energy and passion to ensure that all these truths come to fruition, and that all these promises are fulfilled.

Should be easy, BREXIT said it would be."

Well said!

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"sign the uk gov petition I have ! over 1 .2 million signitures already and parliament have to debate any petition over 100,000 signitures its calling for a re-vote

there was clear set percentges for a majority vote to be carried forward and also turn

out % is also taken into

account Thursday result fell far short of this

So we doing referendums until you get the results you like, get idea

"
that is what the snp do in scotland

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By *urvymamaWoman over a year ago

Doncaster

"Brexiteers should have an online petition against the online petition, the government would have to look at that as well if it hit 100,000, democracy at work

They do have a counter petition it's now in the lead

Remainders just need to accept what's done is done and we all need to move forward as best we can

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By *enard ArgenteMan over a year ago

London and France

"So the BREXIT won.

Now; BREXITeers; you were passionate and vocal in order to win; fine.

You have a job to complete.

You voted because you were promised that all the money that you were told went to Europe, is going to be spent on the NHS.

Make sure it is. Every penny . Make them prove it, You know how much it is; it was written on Boris's bus. If they don't, hold their feet to the fire.

You were promised that Migration would be totally under control. Make sure it is. Make them prove it. If they don't, hold their feet to the fire .

You were promised fantastic trade deals that would outstrip anything the EU would do. Make sure they do. Make them prove it. Hold their feet to the fire.

You were promised that the UK would no longer have to agree to European laws. Make sure that UK drops all EU laws. Every one of them. If they don't, hold their feet to the fire.

You were promised that no more money would be paid to the EU, once the exit from the EU was completed. Make sure it isn't. Not one penny. Make them prove it.

That will do for starters.

If they don't come good on their promises, you know what to do; you put energy and passion into winning the vote; fair enough.

You were hold the truth by the BREXIT campaign we assume?

Your job now is to continue with your energy and passion to ensure that all these truths come to fruition, and that all these promises are fulfilled.

Should be easy, BREXIT said it would be.

And what are you going to do? Are you 'barley'? Are you going to sit in the corner with a 'titty' lip on?

I find the reactions to the result very strange. A lot of people hoping that their nation fails just so that they can have their smug 'told you so' moment."

I am being positive. Very.

BREXIT won. So it was clearly the right decision.

And won because of the promises it made.

Which can be all realised, otherwise they wouldn't have been made, would they? After all, no-one would be stupid enough to vote for things that could not be done.

Do now they just need to do it all.

Pretty straightforward, I would think.

Just need to make sure they get on with it quite quickly.

Should not take long really, I think that all the trade deals that will be needed, will be fixed with a few phone calls, Mr Gove said they would do that, and of course the EU will be begging to set some up with us, I guess the biggest problem is to sort out which is done first, the mega deals with the US, or with Europe.

The NHS money could start next week. next week.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

when do we get rid of euro court of human rights?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"It feels odd that they left and it's really real too..It was so close as well...I can see Europe falling apart over the next 10-15 years if not sooner... Back to old currency and new trade and border agreements is gonna be a real fucker to handle..I'm from Ireland and if we get a referendum on a United Ireland then I happy about brexit. It'll be the first time in 800 years that we are free from the shackles of the empire! I never thought this could possibly happen in my lifetime let alone my parents...in my eyes being able to drive anywhere on this (MY) island and say it's truly mine (ours the Irish) will be better than being in Europe and anything it offers me. Maybe all of our (UK & Ireland) debts to Europe will be scrapped! Now that would be a great perk of brexit! I'm rambling now.........

Can I gently point out that you Irish HAD a referendum after the Good Friday Agreement and you didn't object to Ulster remaining part of the UK then. In fact you supported it massively.

Since 1923 and before the EEC let alone the EU existed you, as an Irish citizen, had the right to travel freely all over 'your' island and indeed all over 'my' island (GB). Indeed you have the right to vote in 'my' elections. All inherited from when you were part of England (not the Empire as you say).

After the UK leaves the EU formally the CTA will be re-introduced....Maybe use your friend Google and understand the facts a bit more Sir?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"when do we get rid of euro court of human rights?"

We don't. Its nothing to do with the EU. Its the Council of Europe.

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By *enard ArgenteMan over a year ago

London and France

"when do we get rid of euro court of human rights?"

You don't. It's not part of the deal. It's not anything to do with the EU either .

It stems from the European Convention on Human rights, ( 1950) of which UK was one of the founder signatories.

47 countries are signatories to that convention. It just happens that the 28/27 EU countries are part of the 47.

The UK would never withdraw from that convention. It's about international law, and adherence to it, not EU law.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"when do we get rid of euro court of human rights?

You don't. It's not part of the deal. It's not anything to do with the EU either .

It stems from the European Convention on Human rights, ( 1950) of which UK was one of the founder signatories.

47 countries are signatories to that convention. It just happens that the 28/27 EU countries are part of the 47.

The UK would never withdraw from that convention. It's about international law, and adherence to it, not EU law.

But it's got europe in the name, how can it not be the same thing? Do you think we'll also be kicked out of the euro football tournament now?

(Sarcasm)

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"when do we get rid of euro court of human rights?"
oh dear sorry its here to say

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