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"So we can look forward to an unelected prime minister .....hasn't worked well in the past has it ... Churchill ....major ...brown .." We never elect a Prime Minister, only a political party  | |||
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"So we can look forward to an unelected prime minister .....hasn't worked well in the past has it ... Churchill ....major ...brown .." The "elected" ones ain't been much better...thatcher, Blair...Cameron!! Maybe we need to rethink this whole democracy thing  | |||
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"As said above we never elect a Prime Minister, we elect MP's, the leader of the majority party (mostly) becomes the PM. There is no guarantee that the leader of any party will be elected to parliament at a general election, so if they didn't then you would have no PM until a new one has been elected by whatever party that came from. In the case of John Major, he held a general election as soon as reasonably possible and won it so I'd not put him in the same bracket as Brown." 
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"As said above we never elect a Prime Minister, we elect MP's, the leader of the majority party (mostly) becomes the PM. There is no guarantee that the leader of any party will be elected to parliament at a general election, so if they didn't then you would have no PM until a new one has been elected by whatever party that came from. In the case of John Major, he held a general election as soon as reasonably possible and won it so I'd not put him in the same bracket as Brown.
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In any event, Brown was an elected MP too."Yes he was, and in many respects it was well known at the last election labour won that Blair would probably not last until the next one and Brown would take over. | |||
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"We elect constituency members of parliament. Often based on their party's manifesto. We never directly elect a Prime Minister. Hope that clarifies your confusion." Tim vine would be great | |||
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. surely the tories are not stupid enough to make him there leader | |||
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"i cannot believe ppl think boris would make a good pm . surely the tories are not stupid enough to make him there leader"Well They Allowed caMORON to lead them 
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"Maybe wrong but wasnt Churchill prime minister during the 2nd world war.Worked out ok for us . Thatcher was elected by a 150 seat majority as leader at the election. Next one will almost cetainly be Boris.Some 75% of Tories are Eurosceptics and cant see another credible candisdate in their ranks." Some in the media are saying Priti Patel. I think Boris will get it but personally I think Priti Patel would be a brilliant Prime Minister. | |||
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"BoJo can suck my cock "That's the name of my new band | |||
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"Maybe wrong but wasnt Churchill prime minister during the 2nd world war.Worked out ok for us . Thatcher was elected by a 150 seat majority as leader at the election. Next one will almost cetainly be Boris.Some 75% of Tories are Eurosceptics and cant see another credible candisdate in their ranks. Some in the media are saying Priti Patel. I think Boris will get it but personally I think Priti Patel would be a brilliant Prime Minister. " LOL They're both shit  | |||
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"Bring back Tony blair "Seriously!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | |||
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"Bring back Portillo " He stuck on a train somewhere. | |||
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"Bring back Tony blair "He can fuck off n' all | |||
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"Bring back Tony blair
Seriously!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"Yes. I like the guy, would even have a coffee at nandos with him and talk politics  | |||
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"Bring back Tony blair
Seriously!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Yes. I like the guy, would even have a coffee at nandos with him and talk politics "WOW. If you do can you stab the cunt in the eye with a sharpened sugar stirrer? | |||
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"Bring back Portillo " I quite like him as a train journey presenter | |||
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"Bring back Tony blair
Seriously!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Yes. I like the guy, would even have a coffee at nandos with him and talk politics
WOW. If you do can you stab the cunt in the eye with a sharpened sugar stirrer?"No, but I would ask for an autograph | |||
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"Bring back Tony blair
Seriously!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Yes. I like the guy, would even have a coffee at nandos with him and talk politics
WOW. If you do can you stab the cunt in the eye with a sharpened sugar stirrer?No, but I would ask for an autograph "I wouldn't trust is autograph to be real. Or you could get him to do it on a piece of paper that says "I the undersigned, am a lying warmongering cunt, with the blood of thousands of people on my hands" | |||
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"Maybe wrong but wasnt Churchill prime minister during the 2nd world war.Worked out ok for us . Thatcher was elected by a 150 seat majority as leader at the election. Next one will almost cetainly be Boris.Some 75% of Tories are Eurosceptics and cant see another credible candisdate in their ranks. Some in the media are saying Priti Patel. I think Boris will get it but personally I think Priti Patel would be a brilliant Prime Minister. LOL They’re both shit "Personally I like Boris.Very clever man and has very clever people around him. Priti Patel as Deputy Prime Minister maybe to give some ballance | |||
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"Bring back Tony blair
Seriously!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Yes. I like the guy, would even have a coffee at nandos with him and talk politics
WOW. If you do can you stab the cunt in the eye with a sharpened sugar stirrer?"And maybe put him in hancuffs and throw him in a very dark very deep hole. | |||
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I figure if I had all of fabs on my side I might have a good chance | |||
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"Maybe wrong but wasnt Churchill prime minister during the 2nd world war.Worked out ok for us . Thatcher was elected by a 150 seat majority as leader at the election. Next one will almost cetainly be Boris.Some 75% of Tories are Eurosceptics and cant see another credible candisdate in their ranks. Some in the media are saying Priti Patel. I think Boris will get it but personally I think Priti Patel would be a brilliant Prime Minister. LOL They’re both shit
Personally I like Boris.Very clever man and has very clever people around him.
Priti Patel as Deputy Prime Minister maybe to give some ballance
"Boris was a disaster as mayor, his harebrained schemes have cost the country billions | |||
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"I suspect that Boris Johnson is more right wing than David Cameron - the public buffoon persona is just that: a guise for the gullible. I don't trust him. Or May who was uncommonly quiet in the referendum, nor the slimy Gove. Certainly not Osbourne - another who has gone quiet.....not Corbyn for Labour too as I think he's a wet blanket with no gravitas. I have no idea, really. " Gove would be a contender for me | |||
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"Maybe wrong but wasnt Churchill prime minister during the 2nd world war.Worked out ok for us . Thatcher was elected by a 150 seat majority as leader at the election. Next one will almost cetainly be Boris.Some 75% of Tories are Eurosceptics and cant see another credible candisdate in their ranks. Some in the media are saying Priti Patel. I think Boris will get it but personally I think Priti Patel would be a brilliant Prime Minister. LOL They’re both shit
Personally I like Boris.Very clever man and has very clever people around him.
Priti Patel as Deputy Prime Minister maybe to give some ballance
Boris was a disaster as mayor, his harebrained schemes have cost the country billions "How pray tell.Mayor of London not the country. Boris bikes were good. | |||
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"I'd prefer if the conservative party chose Ian Duncan smith. However I wouldn't be voting for him in 2020!" Why not, worked in 2001 | |||
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"Maybe wrong but wasnt Churchill prime minister during the 2nd world war.Worked out ok for us . Thatcher was elected by a 150 seat majority as leader at the election. Next one will almost cetainly be Boris.Some 75% of Tories are Eurosceptics and cant see another credible candisdate in their ranks. Some in the media are saying Priti Patel. I think Boris will get it but personally I think Priti Patel would be a brilliant Prime Minister. LOL They’re both shit
Personally I like Boris.Very clever man and has very clever people around him.
Priti Patel as Deputy Prime Minister maybe to give some ballance
Boris was a disaster as mayor, his harebrained schemes have cost the country billions
How pray tell.Mayor of London not the country.
Boris bikes were good."His stupid schemes to clean up air quality and promote cycling caused more congestion, made air quality worse, ground London to a halt and have deterred investment in the city. | |||
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"I'd prefer if the conservative party chose Ian Duncan smith. However I wouldn't be voting for him in 2020! Why not, worked in 2001 " . Well I think you need somebody who's firstly sensible and secondly committed to a brexit!. Of all the Tories I actually trust him the most | |||
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"Seeing as european leaders want to get the brexit under way. Why is it cameron:s procrastinating? All the uncertainty and delays are damaging." this.. he wanted it and should start the negotiations now, he's not negotiating on behalf of himself as an individual.. he is negotiating on behalf of the country as will whomever be whenever they start.. he need's to grow a set and get on with it.. | |||
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"Seeing as european leaders want to get the brexit under way. Why is it cameron:s procrastinating? All the uncertainty and delays are damaging. this.. he wanted it and should start the negotiations now, he's not negotiating on behalf of himself as an individual.. he is negotiating on behalf of the country as will whomever be whenever they start.. he need's to grow a set and get on with it.." I like the theory. But I really don't want someone negotiating for us who failed to negotiate anything decent for us when we threatened to leave. Now we have left we need a new face and someone who actually fought for this win. | |||
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"I'd prefer if the conservative party chose Ian Duncan smith. However I wouldn't be voting for him in 2020! Why not, worked in 2001 . Well I think you need somebody who's firstly sensible and secondly committed to a brexit!. Of all the Tories I actually trust him the most" You obviously don't know anyone who is a lone parent then, or has a disability, or been laid off, or who can't travel 30 miles a day to earn the minimum wage | |||
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"Seeing as european leaders want to get the brexit under way. Why is it cameron:s procrastinating? All the uncertainty and delays are damaging. this.. he wanted it and should start the negotiations now, he's not negotiating on behalf of himself as an individual.. he is negotiating on behalf of the country as will whomever be whenever they start.. he need's to grow a set and get on with it.." . Dave can't do it! He's just spent 3 months campaigning for remain. This unfortunately will be a long drawn out thing. The first thing they need to do is get a team together for negotiation and it needs to be lead by somebody in the conservative party who was on the leave side.. Telling people to grow a pair at this time is just a bit pointless | |||
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"Seeing as european leaders want to get the brexit under way. Why is it cameron:s procrastinating? All the uncertainty and delays are damaging. this.. he wanted it and should start the negotiations now, he's not negotiating on behalf of himself as an individual.. he is negotiating on behalf of the country as will whomever be whenever they start.. he need's to grow a set and get on with it.. I like the theory. But I really don't want someone negotiating for us who failed to negotiate anything decent for us when we threatened to leave. Now we have left we need a new face and someone who actually fought for this win." But none of those are in any hurry to do so | |||
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"Seeing as european leaders want to get the brexit under way. Why is it cameron:s procrastinating? All the uncertainty and delays are damaging. this.. he wanted it and should start the negotiations now, he's not negotiating on behalf of himself as an individual.. he is negotiating on behalf of the country as will whomever be whenever they start.. he need's to grow a set and get on with it.. I like the theory. But I really don't want someone negotiating for us who failed to negotiate anything decent for us when we threatened to leave. Now we have left we need a new face and someone who actually fought for this win." its a fair point but whom? Not Boris as i don't think they will take him seriously, have him maybe as part of it as you said above but there needs to be serious negotiators who do the nitty gritty.. Boris's antics as Mayor was often more about Boris grandstanding and saying things for which later he had to have someone explain as sure as hell he isn't the type of ego to apologise when he puts his foot in his mouth.. bit like Jeux Sans Frontieres, don't play your joker too early or in his case maybe not at all.. | |||
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"Oh well done OP.... back to Forum Normality ... Churchill was an elected MP and was asked by His Majesty to become PM in WWII. He was leader of the Conservative Party which won the 1951 Election and was asked again to be PM. He won a war and brought prosperity after the revolutionary foresight of the Attlee Government. John Major was asked by her Majesty to be PM after he was elected leader of the Conservative Party. He then won the Election in 1992. He oversaw a marked improvement in the Economy and handed over an annual surplus to Blair... Gordon Brown was similarly invited to be PM. Unlike the other two he failed to get re-elected. And fucked up the economy. So you were 33% right .... " | |||
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"Seeing as european leaders want to get the brexit under way. Why is it cameron:s procrastinating? All the uncertainty and delays are damaging. this.. he wanted it and should start the negotiations now, he's not negotiating on behalf of himself as an individual.. he is negotiating on behalf of the country as will whomever be whenever they start.. he need's to grow a set and get on with it... Dave can't do it! He's just spent 3 months campaigning for remain. This unfortunately will be a long drawn out thing. The first thing they need to do is get a team together for negotiation and it needs to be lead by somebody in the conservative party who was on the leave side.. Telling people to grow a pair at this time is just a bit pointless" fair point about growing a set.. | |||
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"I'd prefer if the conservative party chose Ian Duncan smith. However I wouldn't be voting for him in 2020! Why not, worked in 2001 . Well I think you need somebody who's firstly sensible and secondly committed to a brexit!. Of all the Tories I actually trust him the most You obviously don't know anyone who is a lone parent then, or has a disability, or been laid off, or who can't travel 30 miles a day to earn the minimum wage" . Yes I know loads, ids didn't do anything any other Tory wouldn't have done and I belive he's the most honest of them!.... They won the election so it has to be a Tory that's not my choice | |||
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"Seeing as european leaders want to get the brexit under way. Why is it cameron:s procrastinating? All the uncertainty and delays are damaging. this.. he wanted it and should start the negotiations now, he's not negotiating on behalf of himself as an individual.. he is negotiating on behalf of the country as will whomever be whenever they start.. he need's to grow a set and get on with it... Dave can't do it! He's just spent 3 months campaigning for remain. This unfortunately will be a long drawn out thing. The first thing they need to do is get a team together for negotiation and it needs to be lead by somebody in the conservative party who was on the leave side.. Telling people to grow a pair at this time is just a bit pointless fair point about growing a set.." . It's a rock and a hard place, as a remainer your obviously frustrated, frankly with a 52/48 split I'd prefer some politican willing to concede something to the losing side, I don't know that might come in the form of a close membership but not actually in the EU? ... Critically both sides need to act a bit more adult | |||
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"Seeing as european leaders want to get the brexit under way. Why is it cameron:s procrastinating? All the uncertainty and delays are damaging. this.. he wanted it and should start the negotiations now, he's not negotiating on behalf of himself as an individual.. he is negotiating on behalf of the country as will whomever be whenever they start.. he need's to grow a set and get on with it... Dave can't do it! He's just spent 3 months campaigning for remain. This unfortunately will be a long drawn out thing. The first thing they need to do is get a team together for negotiation and it needs to be lead by somebody in the conservative party who was on the leave side.. Telling people to grow a pair at this time is just a bit pointless fair point about growing a set... It's a rock and a hard place, as a remainer your obviously frustrated, frankly with a 52/48 split I'd prefer some politican willing to concede something to the losing side, I don't know that might come in the form of a close membership but not actually in the EU? ... Critically both sides need to act a bit more adult" The result is done, that's over with now.. i think its a frustration born out of just how bad a campaign it was by the elected representatives on both sides, not many of them came out of it with any kudos even those on the winning side.. and its now that this country needs 'statesman' like people to take us forward.. we live in interesting times indeed.. i think with my curry later a cold bottle of Erdinger weis bier is in order | |||
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" he need's to grow a set and get on with it.. I like the theory. But I really don't want someone negotiating for us who failed to negotiate anything decent for us when we threatened to leave. Now we have left we need a new face and someone who actually fought for this win. its a fair point but whom? Not Boris as i don't think they will take him seriously, have him maybe as part of it as you said above but there needs to be serious negotiators who do the nitty gritty.. Boris's antics as Mayor was often more about Boris grandstanding and saying things for which later he had to have someone explain as sure as hell he isn't the type of ego to apologise when he puts his foot in his mouth.. bit like Jeux Sans Frontieres, don't play your joker too early or in his case maybe not at all.. " I think a different structure is needed for these different times. Someone who will pull the country together and someone who will negotiate hard for us maybe aren't the same person. I have to say I was impressed by the speeches by Gisela, Boris and Michale yesterday. The right tone, calm and inclusive. And interestingly it was Boris that brought in the young Remainers. Gove I think will be a clever but passionate PM who can return some pride in Britain. Boris will have to prove himself by heading the Brexit negotiating team where I think a good brain and some clever tactics will be needed. This team must include Labour people like Gisela Stuart who was an outstanding orator and was never phased by the barbs and insults that came her way. I was very impressed by how she spoke in German part way through her speech at Manchester when the overall result was announced to hold out a hand to them. And yes she did translate! IDS, Grayling and even Farage deserve to be in that team. For me Cameron and Osborne should be led away quietly and put out to grass never to be seen again. (And I am a lifelong Tory). | |||
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" Critically both sides need to act a bit more adult The result is done, that's over with now.. i think its a frustration born out of just how bad a campaign it was by the elected representatives on both sides, not many of them came out of it with any kudos even those on the winning side.. and its now that this country needs 'statesman' like people to take us forward.. we live in interesting times indeed.. i think with my curry later a cold bottle of Erdinger weis bier is in order" . It really became about entrenched beliefs, like asking a protestant and a catholic to argue it out over religion and we all know how that ends!. If there's a lesson to be learned it's that we all need to move along with are "beliefs" working together.... I'm pretty sure the EU could have worked for everyone, had somebody bashed heads together 15 or 20 years ago | |||
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" This team must include Labour people like Gisela Stuart who was an outstanding orator and was never phased by the barbs and insults that came her way. I was very impressed by how she spoke in German part way through her speech at Manchester when the overall result was announced to hold out a hand to them. And yes she did translate! " Do you think the fact she's German helped? | |||
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"Seeing as european leaders want to get the brexit under way. Why is it cameron:s procrastinating? All the uncertainty and delays are damaging. this.. he wanted it and should start the negotiations now, he's not negotiating on behalf of himself as an individual.. he is negotiating on behalf of the country as will whomever be whenever they start.. he need's to grow a set and get on with it.. I like the theory. But I really don't want someone negotiating for us who failed to negotiate anything decent for us when we threatened to leave. Now we have left we need a new face and someone who actually fought for this win." didn't think of that. True! the leadership offer to be sorted. I would go with boris. | |||
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"As long as it's not Teresa May Who's this Anna Soubry woman ? What have we got on her ? Is she worth a punt ? Anna soubry .... looks very familiar. .. wasnt she a news reader on central news .. years ago ,, She came across very well when she was being inter_iewed yesterday evening " | |||
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Cameron said in his manifesto to offer a referendum simply as a way to get elected. If he'd been confident in his OWN ability and that of his party enough last election, then he wouldn't have had to have offered a referendum and we wouldn't be here now. He's fucked the country up economically, in the short term at least and might cause the UK to split. Long term, I think it will improve. | |||
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"I think Osbourne should go simply for threatening an early budget with tax rises if we left. Disgraceful punishment scare tactics which failed to work. As much as I dislike IDS because of his disability cuts, he was good in the referendum and didn't use scare tactics. So maybe him. He was leader before after all. " After his budget comment and threatening to take pensions away Osborne should be dragged out from under whatever stone he is hiding under and fucked and burned. At least Cameron had the decency to resign. | |||
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"Bring back Portillo " Too busy presenting programmes on steam train journeys ... | |||
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"I think Osbourne should go simply for threatening an early budget with tax rises if we left. Disgraceful punishment scare tactics which failed to work. As much as I dislike IDS because of his disability cuts, he was good in the referendum and didn't use scare tactics. So maybe him. He was leader before after all. After his budget comment and threatening to take pensions away Osborne should be dragged out from under whatever stone he is hiding under and fucked and burned. At least Cameron had the decency to resign. " Cameron's no fool, he knows the mess that's left and did the off before the toast was cold | |||
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"Anna soubry ... was a journalist on central news .... and a presenter on this morning .... " She has been castigated as small business minister and talking the economy down and also for blaming "white working class labour voters who have probably never even seen an immigrant" for voting for Brexit. Certainly up there with Osborne as the two most odious MPs currently in parliament. And that is saying something | |||
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"Anna soubry ... was a journalist on central news .... and a presenter on this morning .... " That possibly explains why she came across very well I had heard of her in passing but paid her scant attention Last night, however, she seemed to talk with a level of reality and common sense Maybe that is why, as an MP, she stood out | |||
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"Maybe wrong but wasnt Churchill prime minister during the 2nd world war.Worked out ok for us . Thatcher was elected by a 150 seat majority as leader at the election. Next one will almost cetainly be Boris.Some 75% of Tories are Eurosceptics and cant see another credible candisdate in their ranks. Some in the media are saying Priti Patel. I think Boris will get it but personally I think Priti Patel would be a brilliant Prime Minister. LOL They’re both shit
Personally I like Boris.Very clever man and has very clever people around him.
Priti Patel as Deputy Prime Minister maybe to give some ballance
"I've met him. He has a mind like a steel trap but I'm afraid he believes in nothing more than his own right to rule. He's a grade A shitbag. You know before announcing he was with the Leave campaign, he wrote two articles, one in, one out? He only believes in himself | |||
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"Anna soubry ... was a journalist on central news .... and a presenter on this morning .... She has been castigated as small business minister and talking the economy down and also for blaming "white working class labour voters who have probably never even seen an immigrant" for voting for Brexit. Certainly up there with Osborne as the two most odious MPs currently in parliament. And that is saying something " See, this is why I asked It's always good to get a second opinion | |||
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" he need's to grow a set and get on with it.. I like the theory. But I really don't want someone negotiating for us who failed to negotiate anything decent for us when we threatened to leave. Now we have left we need a new face and someone who actually fought for this win. its a fair point but whom? Not Boris as i don't think they will take him seriously, have him maybe as part of it as you said above but there needs to be serious negotiators who do the nitty gritty.. Boris's antics as Mayor was often more about Boris grandstanding and saying things for which later he had to have someone explain as sure as hell he isn't the type of ego to apologise when he puts his foot in his mouth.. bit like Jeux Sans Frontieres, don't play your joker too early or in his case maybe not at all.. I think a different structure is needed for these different times. Someone who will pull the country together and someone who will negotiate hard for us maybe aren't the same person. I have to say I was impressed by the speeches by Gisela, Boris and Michale yesterday. The right tone, calm and inclusive. And interestingly it was Boris that brought in the young Remainers. Gove I think will be a clever but passionate PM who can return some pride in Britain. Boris will have to prove himself by heading the Brexit negotiating team where I think a good brain and some clever tactics will be needed. This team must include Labour people like Gisela Stuart who was an outstanding orator and was never phased by the barbs and insults that came her way. I was very impressed by how she spoke in German part way through her speech at Manchester when the overall result was announced to hold out a hand to them. And yes she did translate! IDS, Grayling and even Farage deserve to be in that team. For me Cameron and Osborne should be led away quietly and put out to grass never to be seen again. (And I am a lifelong Tory)." agree on Gisela Stuart and Osborne, never been a fan of Gove but such things are to one side now.. Grayling has something about him.. would not be surprised that someone a bit more centrist comes through when the Tories have their election, often the way of these things.. | |||
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"I am going to be the next prime minister .... " | |||
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"That Jeremy Hunt seems good at negotiating..." and he'd make for some good rhymes too. | |||
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"Anna soubry ... was a journalist on central news .... and a presenter on this morning .... She has been castigated as small business minister and talking the economy down and also for blaming "white working class labour voters who have probably never even seen an immigrant" for voting for Brexit. Certainly up there with Osborne as the two most odious MPs currently in parliament. And that is saying something " Every Government in office have a couple of people like Soubry, marmite types who are sent out often to either justify very poor policies or just as an attack dog to ramp up the rhetoric and tear into those daring to question the Government.. Sajid Javid is one but compared to Soubry he's a diplomat, she is horrid.. Priti Pattel is a one to watch.. | |||
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"I am going to be the next prime minister ....
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"What an absolute shower" Is it raining there? (And don't be forgetting my Adele photo) | |||
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"I am going to be the next prime minister ....
I will do a fab job "you have my support.. sod the policies.. | |||
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"I simply cannot believe the people being cited here as possible PM material. Self-serving, vile individuals who would do anything for a taste of power, every one of them. Iain Duncan Smith? a more conniving, odious creature you could not find! We're doomed! doomed I tell ye! " . I could see how you think that, however I happen to think IDs genuinely cares about people in poverty, I personally disagree with him about how to solve the problem, however faced with task he had it was never going to be easy, I've got childhood friends who to this day have never worked, there not bad people, but ids was actually right they are trapped in that conundrum and it has become a culture | |||
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"What an absolute shower Is it raining there? (And don't be forgetting my Adele photo) " Adele..? Steve you have caught the ghey bad m8.. | |||
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"I am going to be the next prime minister ....
I will do a fab job
you have my support..
sod the policies.."There are no policies .... | |||
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"I am going to be the next prime minister ....
I will do a fab job
you have my support..
sod the policies..
There are no policies .... "the status quo remains then.. | |||
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"As said above we never elect a Prime Minister, we elect MP's, the leader of the majority party (mostly) becomes the PM. There is no guarantee that the leader of any party will be elected to parliament at a general election, so if they didn't then you would have no PM until a new one has been elected by whatever party that came from. In the case of John Major, he held a general election as soon as reasonably possible and won it so I'd not put him in the same bracket as Brown." Er no he didn't he waited for as absolutely long as he could after thatcher and it was right at the end of the allowed time that major called the election | |||
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"What an absolute shower Is it raining there? (And don't be forgetting my Adele photo) Adele..? Steve you have caught the ghey bad m8.. "Rolling in the Deep (mud) naked wrestling with Adele isn't ghey at all. Eminently shaggable and if she was a lousy fuck, she can sing instead and i'd make her a nice up of tea after too. | |||
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"I am going to be the next prime minister ....
I will do a fab job
you have my support..
sod the policies..
There are no policies ....
the status quo remains then.."Rockin all over the world | |||
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"What an absolute shower Is it raining there? (And don't be forgetting my Adele photo) Adele..? Steve you have caught the ghey bad m8..
Rolling in the Deep (mud) naked wrestling with Adele isn't ghey at all. Eminently shaggable and if she was a lousy fuck, she can sing instead and i'd make her a nice up of tea after too. "well now you put it that way.. warm mud? | |||
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"I am going to be the next prime minister ....
I will do a fab job
you have my support..
sod the policies..
There are no policies ....
the status quo remains then..
Rockin all over the world "that's preferable to down down.. | |||
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"I am going to be the next prime minister ....
I will do a fab job
you have my support..
sod the policies..
There are no policies ....
the status quo remains then..
Rockin all over the world
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"I am going to be the next prime minister ....
I will do a fab job
you have my support..
sod the policies..
There are no policies ....
the status quo remains then..
Rockin all over the world
that's preferable to down down..
Or down the dustpipe "very true.. | |||
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I will do a fab job
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sod the policies..
There are no policies ....
the status quo remains then..
Rockin all over the world
that's preferable to down down..
Or down the dustpipe
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"What an absolute shower Is it raining there? (And don't be forgetting my Adele photo) Adele..? Steve you have caught the ghey bad m8..
Rolling in the Deep (mud) naked wrestling with Adele isn't ghey at all. Eminently shaggable and if she was a lousy fuck, she can sing instead and i'd make her a nice up of tea after too.
well now you put it that way..
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"So we can look forward to an unelected prime minister .....hasn't worked well in the past has it ... Churchill ....major ...brown .." The country has, collectively, given the middle finger to all the politicians - no matter what side they were on. And now we have to wait to someone to be anointed. There is s a saying - something like "you get the politicians you deserve". We're fucked. Politically. Economically. And my Amazon postage will go up. Great. | |||
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"Maybe wrong but wasnt Churchill prime minister during the 2nd world war.Worked out ok for us . Thatcher was elected by a 150 seat majority as leader at the election. Next one will almost cetainly be Boris.Some 75% of Tories are Eurosceptics and cant see another credible candisdate in their ranks. Some in the media are saying Priti Patel. I think Boris will get it but personally I think Priti Patel would be a brilliant Prime Minister. LOL They’re both shit
Personally I like Boris.Very clever man and has very clever people around him.
Priti Patel as Deputy Prime Minister maybe to give some ballance
Boris was a disaster as mayor, his harebrained schemes have cost the country billions
How pray tell.Mayor of London not the country.
Boris bikes were good.
His stupid schemes to clean up air quality and promote cycling caused more congestion, made air quality worse, ground London to a halt and have deterred investment in the city. "Have you seen the air Quality in London. No on could clean it up Super highway shit but hey don't drive in London if you don't like it. Khan wants to charge diesels extra so not only Boris with hair brained schemes. And anyway started with Livingston and his congestion charging zone. And to make matters worse some moron wants to close Tower bridge for 3 months Don't see any lack of investment from my side as offices don't stay empty long and only got to see the skyline for the investment in new offices. And yes I spend six days a week driving in London and have done for the past 30 years. | |||
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"Maybe wrong but wasnt Churchill prime minister during the 2nd world war.Worked out ok for us . Thatcher was elected by a 150 seat majority as leader at the election. Next one will almost cetainly be Boris.Some 75% of Tories are Eurosceptics and cant see another credible candisdate in their ranks. Some in the media are saying Priti Patel. I think Boris will get it but personally I think Priti Patel would be a brilliant Prime Minister. LOL They’re both shit
Personally I like Boris.Very clever man and has very clever people around him.
Priti Patel as Deputy Prime Minister maybe to give some ballance
I've met him. He has a mind like a steel trap but I'm afraid he believes in nothing more than his own right to rule.
He's a grade A shitbag.
You know before announcing he was with the Leave campaign, he wrote two articles, one in, one out? He only believes in himself "Yes. As I said clever man and clever people around him. Back both horses and the choose the horse you think will win. Proved right backing exit. And he may be a grade A shit bag. But sometimes that's what you need. If you want to lead you have to have complete confidence in yourself. | |||
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"Maybe wrong but wasnt Churchill prime minister during the 2nd world war.Worked out ok for us . Thatcher was elected by a 150 seat majority as leader at the election. Next one will almost cetainly be Boris.Some 75% of Tories are Eurosceptics and cant see another credible candisdate in their ranks. Some in the media are saying Priti Patel. I think Boris will get it but personally I think Priti Patel would be a brilliant Prime Minister. LOL They’re both shit
Personally I like Boris.Very clever man and has very clever people around him.
Priti Patel as Deputy Prime Minister maybe to give some ballance
Boris was a disaster as mayor, his harebrained schemes have cost the country billions
How pray tell.Mayor of London not the country.
Boris bikes were good.
His stupid schemes to clean up air quality and promote cycling caused more congestion, made air quality worse, ground London to a halt and have deterred investment in the city.
Have you seen the air Quality in London. No on could clean it up
Super highway shit but hey don't drive in London if you don't like it. Khan wants to charge diesels extra so not only Boris with hair brained schemes. And anyway started with Livingston and his congestion charging zone. And to make matters worse some moron wants to close Tower bridge for 3 months
Don't see any lack of investment from my side as offices don't stay empty long and only got to see the skyline for the investment in new offices.
And yes I spend six days a week driving in London and have done for the past 30 years.
"You don't improve air quality by increasing the numbers of standing vehicles. Both Ken and Boris have increased the number of "pinch points" that take traffic lanes out increasing the numbers of vehicles idling. Boris also commissioned the new Routemaster hybrid bus that doesn't run on electric power in town and has a euro4 engine when legislation states it should be euro6 or better. | |||
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"What an absolute shower Is it raining there? (And don't be forgetting my Adele photo) " I *won't* be going to watch Addewwl... although, fair play to her, she drove past on her own in a 4x4 | |||
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"Apparently Boris is not as well liked in the Tory party. Gove doesn't want the job That was on radio yesterday" But Gove is quite a fibber.....so my money would be on him! | |||
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"As said above we never elect a Prime Minister, we elect MP's, the leader of the majority party (mostly) becomes the PM. There is no guarantee that the leader of any party will be elected to parliament at a general election, so if they didn't then you would have no PM until a new one has been elected by whatever party that came from. In the case of John Major, he held a general election as soon as reasonably possible and won it so I'd not put him in the same bracket as Brown. Er no he didn't he waited for as absolutely long as he could after thatcher and it was right at the end of the allowed time that major called the election " Thatcher resigned in 1990. Election may 1992. | |||
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"As said above we never elect a Prime Minister, we elect MP's, the leader of the majority party (mostly) becomes the PM. There is no guarantee that the leader of any party will be elected to parliament at a general election, so if they didn't then you would have no PM until a new one has been elected by whatever party that came from. In the case of John Major, he held a general election as soon as reasonably possible and won it so I'd not put him in the same bracket as Brown. Er no he didn't he waited for as absolutely long as he could after thatcher and it was right at the end of the allowed time that major called the election Thatcher resigned in 1990. Election may 1992." It was less than 18 months, he could have held a general election less than 6 montgs after he became prime minister yes, but it was a stable government at the time, shown by his party's selection in the 1992 election. | |||
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"Cameron gone Osborne hopefully soon to follow Hammond and Hunt Cynical and evil Boris, great orator but hopeless with details and left London in a mess Gove lacks gravitas Fallon who's he? May could be an outsider Plenty of dark horses still waiting in the wings. " . I've been quite impressed with kwasi kwarteng!...I think he could be the figure to link the divide being both black and a right wing Tory | |||
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"Maybe wrong but wasnt Churchill prime minister during the 2nd world war.Worked out ok for us . Thatcher was elected by a 150 seat majority as leader at the election. Next one will almost cetainly be Boris.Some 75% of Tories are Eurosceptics and cant see another credible candisdate in their ranks. Some in the media are saying Priti Patel. I think Boris will get it but personally I think Priti Patel would be a brilliant Prime Minister. LOL They’re both shit
Personally I like Boris.Very clever man and has very clever people around him.
Priti Patel as Deputy Prime Minister maybe to give some ballance
Boris was a disaster as mayor, his harebrained schemes have cost the country billions
How pray tell.Mayor of London not the country.
Boris bikes were good.
His stupid schemes to clean up air quality and promote cycling caused more congestion, made air quality worse, ground London to a halt and have deterred investment in the city.
Have you seen the air Quality in London. No on could clean it up
Super highway shit but hey don't drive in London if you don't like it. Khan wants to charge diesels extra so not only Boris with hair brained schemes. And anyway started with Livingston and his congestion charging zone. And to make matters worse some moron wants to close Tower bridge for 3 months
Don't see any lack of investment from my side as offices don't stay empty long and only got to see the skyline for the investment in new offices.
And yes I spend six days a week driving in London and have done for the past 30 years.
You don't improve air quality by increasing the numbers of standing vehicles. Both Ken and Boris have increased the number of "pinch points" that take traffic lanes out increasing the numbers of vehicles idling. Boris also commissioned the new Routemaster hybrid bus that doesn't run on electric power in town and has a euro4 engine when legislation states it should be euro6 or better. "Totally agree. But who would do what is really needed and that is a total ban on any vehicle that is not electric. Wouldn't work so by stealth they have tried to make people give up driving by making it as hard as possible without actually banning. | |||
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"Cameron gone Osborne hopefully soon to follow Hammond and Hunt Cynical and evil Boris, great orator but hopeless with details and left London in a mess Gove lacks gravitas Fallon who's he? May could be an outsider Plenty of dark horses still waiting in the wings. . I've been quite impressed with kwasi kwarteng!...I think he could be the figure to link the divide being both black and a right wing Tory " Kwasi is another old Etonian and Boris best mate. He's to put it mildly "educated beyond his intelligence " | |||
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"Maybe wrong but wasnt Churchill prime minister during the 2nd world war.Worked out ok for us . Thatcher was elected by a 150 seat majority as leader at the election. Next one will almost cetainly be Boris.Some 75% of Tories are Eurosceptics and cant see another credible candisdate in their ranks. Some in the media are saying Priti Patel. I think Boris will get it but personally I think Priti Patel would be a brilliant Prime Minister. LOL They’re both shit
Personally I like Boris.Very clever man and has very clever people around him.
Priti Patel as Deputy Prime Minister maybe to give some ballance
Boris was a disaster as mayor, his harebrained schemes have cost the country billions
How pray tell.Mayor of London not the country.
Boris bikes were good.
His stupid schemes to clean up air quality and promote cycling caused more congestion, made air quality worse, ground London to a halt and have deterred investment in the city.
Have you seen the air Quality in London. No on could clean it up
Super highway shit but hey don't drive in London if you don't like it. Khan wants to charge diesels extra so not only Boris with hair brained schemes. And anyway started with Livingston and his congestion charging zone. And to make matters worse some moron wants to close Tower bridge for 3 months
Don't see any lack of investment from my side as offices don't stay empty long and only got to see the skyline for the investment in new offices.
And yes I spend six days a week driving in London and have done for the past 30 years.
You don't improve air quality by increasing the numbers of standing vehicles. Both Ken and Boris have increased the number of "pinch points" that take traffic lanes out increasing the numbers of vehicles idling. Boris also commissioned the new Routemaster hybrid bus that doesn't run on electric power in town and has a euro4 engine when legislation states it should be euro6 or better.
Totally agree. But who would do what is really needed and that is a total ban on any vehicle that is not electric.
Wouldn't work so by stealth they have tried to make people give up driving by making it as hard as possible without actually banning. "they have gone arse about face with the cycle super highway, deliberately taking out road lanes to build cycle lanes alongside the old cycle lanes. Hyde Park being the best example | |||
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"Maybe wrong but wasnt Churchill prime minister during the 2nd world war.Worked out ok for us . Thatcher was elected by a 150 seat majority as leader at the election. Next one will almost cetainly be Boris.Some 75% of Tories are Eurosceptics and cant see another credible candisdate in their ranks. Some in the media are saying Priti Patel. I think Boris will get it but personally I think Priti Patel would be a brilliant Prime Minister. LOL They’re both shit
Personally I like Boris.Very clever man and has very clever people around him.
Priti Patel as Deputy Prime Minister maybe to give some ballance
Boris was a disaster as mayor, his harebrained schemes have cost the country billions
How pray tell.Mayor of London not the country.
Boris bikes were good.
His stupid schemes to clean up air quality and promote cycling caused more congestion, made air quality worse, ground London to a halt and have deterred investment in the city.
Have you seen the air Quality in London. No on could clean it up
Super highway shit but hey don't drive in London if you don't like it. Khan wants to charge diesels extra so not only Boris with hair brained schemes. And anyway started with Livingston and his congestion charging zone. And to make matters worse some moron wants to close Tower bridge for 3 months
Don't see any lack of investment from my side as offices don't stay empty long and only got to see the skyline for the investment in new offices.
And yes I spend six days a week driving in London and have done for the past 30 years.
You don't improve air quality by increasing the numbers of standing vehicles. Both Ken and Boris have increased the number of "pinch points" that take traffic lanes out increasing the numbers of vehicles idling. Boris also commissioned the new Routemaster hybrid bus that doesn't run on electric power in town and has a euro4 engine when legislation states it should be euro6 or better.
Totally agree. But who would do what is really needed and that is a total ban on any vehicle that is not electric.
Wouldn't work so by stealth they have tried to make people give up driving by making it as hard as possible without actually banning. they have gone arse about face with the cycle super highway, deliberately taking out road lanes to build cycle lanes alongside the old cycle lanes. Hyde Park being the best example "The Victoria Embankment is another. Three lanes to one. Could of done the same with a few cans of paint and not spent months digging up London | |||
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"Or who's that other toff... The Honourable member for the 1950s? Jacob Reece-Mogg" . We can sit here all day slagging off Tories but the fact remains we need one right now, so make sure you put pressure on the one you want. | |||
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"Or who's that other toff... The Honourable member for the 1950s? Jacob Reece-Mogg. We can sit here all day slagging off Tories but the fact remains we need one right now, so make sure you put pressure on the one you want. " I wouldn't want Boris to run the country but I'd have him as a trade representative selling us around the world. | |||
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"Maybe wrong but wasnt Churchill prime minister during the 2nd world war.Worked out ok for us . Thatcher was elected by a 150 seat majority as leader at the election. Next one will almost cetainly be Boris.Some 75% of Tories are Eurosceptics and cant see another credible candisdate in their ranks. Some in the media are saying Priti Patel. I think Boris will get it but personally I think Priti Patel would be a brilliant Prime Minister. LOL They’re both shit
Personally I like Boris.Very clever man and has very clever people around him.
Priti Patel as Deputy Prime Minister maybe to give some ballance
Boris was a disaster as mayor, his harebrained schemes have cost the country billions
How pray tell.Mayor of London not the country.
Boris bikes were good.
His stupid schemes to clean up air quality and promote cycling caused more congestion, made air quality worse, ground London to a halt and have deterred investment in the city.
Have you seen the air Quality in London. No on could clean it up
Super highway shit but hey don't drive in London if you don't like it. Khan wants to charge diesels extra so not only Boris with hair brained schemes. And anyway started with Livingston and his congestion charging zone. And to make matters worse some moron wants to close Tower bridge for 3 months
Don't see any lack of investment from my side as offices don't stay empty long and only got to see the skyline for the investment in new offices.
And yes I spend six days a week driving in London and have done for the past 30 years.
You don't improve air quality by increasing the numbers of standing vehicles. Both Ken and Boris have increased the number of "pinch points" that take traffic lanes out increasing the numbers of vehicles idling. Boris also commissioned the new Routemaster hybrid bus that doesn't run on electric power in town and has a euro4 engine when legislation states it should be euro6 or better.
Totally agree. But who would do what is really needed and that is a total ban on any vehicle that is not electric.
Wouldn't work so by stealth they have tried to make people give up driving by making it as hard as possible without actually banning. they have gone arse about face with the cycle super highway, deliberately taking out road lanes to build cycle lanes alongside the old cycle lanes. Hyde Park being the best example
The Victoria Embankment is another. Three lanes to one.
Could of done the same with a few cans of paint and not spent months digging up London"They could have put those springy bollards up and the emergency services could drive over them when necessary | |||
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"So we can look forward to an unelected prime minister .....hasn't worked well in the past has it ... Churchill ....major ...brown .." No Churchill only regarded as our best ever politician and major statistically our most successful leader for amount of time in power and brown did not really have time to achieve anything | |||
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"So we can look forward to an unelected prime minister .....hasn't worked well in the past has it ... Churchill ....major ...brown .. No Churchill only regarded as our best ever politician and major statistically our most successful leader for amount of time in power and brown did not really have time to achieve anything " but he did sell all our gold reserves | |||
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"Bring back Tony blair
Seriously!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Yes. I like the guy, would even have a coffee at nandos with him and talk politics
WOW. If you do can you stab the cunt in the eye with a sharpened sugar stirrer?"He's really very knowledgable. If you ever want to know how to slaughter half a million innocent people, he's your go to guy. Jenny xxx | |||
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"Bring back Tony blair
Seriously!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Yes. I like the guy, would even have a coffee at nandos with him and talk politics
WOW. If you do can you stab the cunt in the eye with a sharpened sugar stirrer?
He's really very knowledgable. If you ever want to know how to slaughter half a million innocent people, he's your go to guy.
Jenny xxx "He's also the last PM to unite the people. Even if it was purely for their hatred contempt for him, PRICK!!!!!!!!!!!!! | |||
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"So we can look forward to an unelected prime minister .....hasn't worked well in the past has it ... Churchill ....major ...brown .." Indeed it hasn't. New gen elec required. B | |||
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"Maybe wrong but wasnt Churchill prime minister during the 2nd world war.Worked out ok for us . Thatcher was elected by a 150 seat majority as leader at the election. Next one will almost cetainly be Boris.Some 75% of Tories are Eurosceptics and cant see another credible candisdate in their ranks. Some in the media are saying Priti Patel. I think Boris will get it but personally I think Priti Patel would be a brilliant Prime Minister. " I kind of want Priti to be the next one - three reasons. 1. Lesser of a lot of evils for my political _iews. 2. A big finger up to the tiny minority of the leave/ukip camp who were blatant racists - e.g the lot parading around proclaiming London had fallen as it has a muslim mayor. 3. For the first time I can say that I'd fuck our PM and it wouldn't be a joke. :P | |||
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"So we can look forward to an unelected prime minister .....hasn't worked well in the past has it ... Churchill ....major ...brown .. No Churchill only regarded as our best ever politician and major statistically our most successful leader for amount of time in power and brown did not really have time to achieve anything but he did sell all our gold reserves" Bring back sir Francis Drake. It's time for Europe to bend over. Daddies home.... | |||
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"We can't have Boris the Karloff as PM. The man is nothing short of an imbecile! Did anyone see "The Last Leg" on Friday night- Boris Johnson's dad was on there- he's clearly a twit too! What a shame he wasn't impotent!" Idiocy, skilled lying and good bullshitting obviously are encoded in their genetics. | |||
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"So we can look forward to an unelected prime minister .....hasn't worked well in the past has it ... Churchill ....major ...brown .. No Churchill only regarded as our best ever politician and major statistically our most successful leader for amount of time in power and brown did not really have time to achieve anything but he did sell all our gold reserves Bring back sir Francis Drake. It's time for Europe to bend over. Daddies home...." If not, Daniel Hannan. | |||
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"So we can look forward to an unelected prime minister .....hasn't worked well in the past has it ... Churchill ....major ...brown .. No Churchill only regarded as our best ever politician and major statistically our most successful leader for amount of time in power and brown did not really have time to achieve anything but he did sell all our gold reserves Bring back sir Francis Drake. It's time for Europe to bend over. Daddies home...." A better man dead than any alive? | |||
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"Bring back Tony blair
Seriously!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Yes. I like the guy, would even have a coffee at nandos with him and talk politics
WOW. If you do can you stab the cunt in the eye with a sharpened sugar stirrer?"I see the lesson of Jo Cox has not had much effect on some. | |||
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"Bring back Tony blair
Seriously!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Yes. I like the guy, would even have a coffee at nandos with him and talk politics
WOW. If you do can you stab the cunt in the eye with a sharpened sugar stirrer?
I see the lesson of Jo Cox has not had much effect on some."What lesson is that? Tony Blair isn't a cunt? | |||
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"So we can look forward to an unelected prime minister .....hasn't worked well in the past has it ... Churchill ....major ...brown .. No Churchill only regarded as our best ever politician and major statistically our most successful leader for amount of time in power and brown did not really have time to achieve anything but he did sell all our gold reserves Bring back sir Francis Drake. It's time for Europe to bend over. Daddies home.... If not, Daniel Hannan." Fuck no, he advertised the Brexit vote as a way to revitalise the NHS and national services, but blew it up on and inter_iew today that the leave campaign chose not to sign a declaration over that for a reason. Shame, he had a lot of actual good knowledge. | |||
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"Seeing as european leaders want to get the brexit under way. Why is it cameron:s procrastinating? All the uncertainty and delays are damaging. this.. he wanted it and should start the negotiations now, he's not negotiating on behalf of himself as an individual.. he is negotiating on behalf of the country as will whomever be whenever they start.. he need's to grow a set and get on with it... Dave can't do it! He's just spent 3 months campaigning for remain. This unfortunately will be a long drawn out thing. The first thing they need to do is get a team together for negotiation and it needs to be lead by somebody in the conservative party who was on the leave side.. Telling people to grow a pair at this time is just a bit pointless" I disagree. It doesn't have to be someone who was committed to BREXIT to lead the negotiations, only someone who is willing to accept that BREXIT is happening and is willing to get the best deal possible for Britain. From a tactical point of _iew, sending someone in to negotiate with a people who they have called a bunch of unelected, bureaucratic dictators, might not be the best person to get a good deal from them. | |||
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"Seeing as european leaders want to get the brexit under way. Why is it cameron:s procrastinating? All the uncertainty and delays are damaging. this.. he wanted it and should start the negotiations now, he's not negotiating on behalf of himself as an individual.. he is negotiating on behalf of the country as will whomever be whenever they start.. he need's to grow a set and get on with it... Dave can't do it! He's just spent 3 months campaigning for remain. This unfortunately will be a long drawn out thing. The first thing they need to do is get a team together for negotiation and it needs to be lead by somebody in the conservative party who was on the leave side.. Telling people to grow a pair at this time is just a bit pointless I disagree. It doesn't have to be someone who was committed to BREXIT to lead the negotiations, only someone who is willing to accept that BREXIT is happening and is willing to get the best deal possible for Britain. From a tactical point of _iew, sending someone in to negotiate with a people who they have called a bunch of unelected, bureaucratic dictators, might not be the best person to get a good deal from them. " This. ^ It's like Junker is making all these pretty brutal comments, and I get why. But on the other hand, Merkel and the Dutch representative were just trying to get some sensitive, kind but firm order in. Yeah, we need to get on with this now, and be brisk about it to stabilise the British and European markets, but snarky remarks from either side isn't going to help maintain good european relations 48% of the voters wanted, and presumably everyone wants for trade. | |||
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"I simply cannot believe the people being cited here as possible PM material. Self-serving, vile individuals who would do anything for a taste of power, every one of them. Iain Duncan Smith? a more conniving, odious creature you could not find! We're doomed! doomed I tell ye! . I could see how you think that, however I happen to think IDs genuinely cares about people in poverty, I personally disagree with him about how to solve the problem, however faced with task he had it was never going to be easy, I've got childhood friends who to this day have never worked, there not bad people, but ids was actually right they are trapped in that conundrum and it has become a culture" Forget IDS, he's a non runner. He's been tried in the past and was found wanting. | |||
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"Got to be Boris It's what at least 17 million want."He may get the job but, if he does, it would be an electoral disaster for the Conservatives. Almost 17 million people at least believe him to have lied about the £350 million, lied about cutting immigration, lied about Turkey joining but most of all lied about what he actual believed. | |||
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"Got to be Boris It's what at least 17 million want.
He may get the job but, if he does, it would be an electoral disaster for the Conservatives. Almost 17 million people at least believe him to have lied about the £350 million, lied about cutting immigration, lied about Turkey joining but most of all lied about what he actual believed."That would imply I wish the Tory party harm | |||
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"Got to be Boris It's what at least 17 million want.
He may get the job but, if he does, it would be an electoral disaster for the Conservatives. Almost 17 million people at least believe him to have lied about the £350 million, lied about cutting immigration, lied about Turkey joining but most of all lied about what he actual believed."Daniel Hannan said the same thing about immigration on Newsnight on Friday.. nearly caused Efan Davis to pull his hair out.. | |||
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"would love to see Gisela Stuart become Labours New Leader and eventually PM thats my way of thinking. Calm collective level headed lady . I would start voting Labour again, if she got in, if she first gets rid of Kezia Dugdale MsP" I really liked Gisella in the debates. Articulate, intelligent and does not do that shouty thing that most socialists do to try and get a point across. | |||
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"would love to see Gisela Stuart become Labours New Leader and eventually PM thats my way of thinking. Calm collective level headed lady . I would start voting Labour again, if she got in, if she first gets rid of Kezia Dugdale MsP I really liked Gisella in the debates. Articulate, intelligent and does not do that shouty thing that most socialists do to try and get a point across." EXACTLY I genuinely would go back to voting Labour if she was leading the party | |||
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"i cannot believe ppl think boris would make a good pm . surely the tories are not stupid enough to make him there leader"This | |||
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"Best quote from leave camp today Ian Duncan smith “We never made any commitments. We just made a series of promises that were possibilities.” Well, thanks for clearing that one up." and this | |||
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"As said above we never elect a Prime Minister, we elect MP's, the leader of the majority party (mostly) becomes the PM. There is no guarantee that the leader of any party will be elected to parliament at a general election, so if they didn't then you would have no PM until a new one has been elected by whatever party that came from. In the case of John Major, he held a general election as soon as reasonably possible and won it so I'd not put him in the same bracket as Brown. Er no he didn't he waited for as absolutely long as he could after thatcher and it was right at the end of the allowed time that major called the election Thatcher resigned in 1990. Election may 1992. It was less than 18 months, he could have held a general election less than 6 montgs after he became prime minister yes, but it was a stable government at the time, shown by his party's selection in the 1992 election." The following election result is irrelevant to the statement he held an election as soon as possible - he could've gone to the queen in weeks but he held on for almost the full 5 year term (which would've been up in June 1992) exactly like Brown did 15 years later | |||
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"I'll just leave this here. Clip of earlier Sky news with Fisal Islam and Anna Botting. Enjoy picking your jaws off the floor: http://www.joe.co.uk/news/the-exact-moment-that-this-sky-news-presenter-realised-how-fcked-we-are/69317?utm_source=twitter&utm_campaign=onsite_share B" I saw it live, it is staggering | |||
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"So we can look forward to an unelected prime minister .....hasn't worked well in the past has it ... Churchill ....major ...brown .." Wasn't their uproar when Brown took over? The Tories said it was undemocratic. Why do they not stick to their guns? | |||
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"Best quote from leave camp today Ian Duncan smith “We never made any commitments. We just made a series of promises that were possibilities.” Well, thanks for clearing that one up." Precisely how can a campaign consisting of people from many different parties make a 'commitment'? Did they produce a manifesto? No because they couldn't. And neither incidentally did the 'Remain side' for exactly the same reason. This was a binary referendum to decide do we stay or leave the EU. Just that and nothing else. As IDS said they were offering the possibilities that opened up post-Brexit that were not available being within the EU. It is now up to the Government to make every possible use of ALL options now available and those available as we ease our way out of the EU. The Referendum was not a General election. We were not voting for policies offered by parties. So your comments are rather irrelevant to be honest.. But I understand you didn't like the result. We get that. | |||
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"I'll just leave this here. Clip of earlier Sky news with Fisal Islam and Anna Botting. Enjoy picking your jaws off the floor: http://www.joe.co.uk/news/the-exact-moment-that-this-sky-news-presenter-realised-how-fcked-we-are/69317?utm_source=twitter&utm_campaign=onsite_share B I saw it live, it is staggering "What was more staggering was the way Islam inter_iewed Gove in a completely different way to Cameron on Sky. He acted like some drama queen with stupid facial expressions and shouty comments interrupting and disrupting Gove as he answered questions. The man is a disgrace to journalism. His job was to elicit information for the _iewers. he totally failed to do that. He also totally failed to upset Gove who just smiled at the fool .... | |||
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"Best quote from leave camp today Ian Duncan smith “We never made any commitments. We just made a series of promises that were possibilities.” Well, thanks for clearing that one up. Precisely how can a campaign consisting of people from many different parties make a 'commitment'? Did they produce a manifesto? No because they couldn't. And neither incidentally did the 'Remain side' for exactly the same reason. This was a binary referendum to decide do we stay or leave the EU. Just that and nothing else. As IDS said they were offering the possibilities that opened up post-Brexit that were not available being within the EU. It is now up to the Government to make every possible use of ALL options now available and those available as we ease our way out of the EU. The Referendum was not a General election. We were not voting for policies offered by parties. So your comments are rather irrelevant to be honest.. But I understand you didn't like the result. We get that." Reamin did have a manifesto of sorts, Cameron had concessions from the EU that people knew about. Leave did make claims. Farage confirmed this when he said it was a "mistake" to have made them in the first place. | |||
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"How about Shag for Prime Minister!? "turn around touch the ground snap | |||
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"You know shit is bad when people start to side with Gove." | |||
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"We can't have Boris the Karloff as PM. The man is nothing short of an imbecile! Did anyone see "The Last Leg" on Friday night- Boris Johnson's dad was on there- he's clearly a twit too! What a shame he wasn't impotent!" That's the funniest thing I've read in ages, the tears are running down my legs. | |||
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"Best quote from leave camp today Ian Duncan smith “We never made any commitments. We just made a series of promises that were possibilities.” Well, thanks for clearing that one up. Precisely how can a campaign consisting of people from many different parties make a 'commitment'? Did they produce a manifesto? No because they couldn't. And neither incidentally did the 'Remain side' for exactly the same reason. This was a binary referendum to decide do we stay or leave the EU. Just that and nothing else. As IDS said they were offering the possibilities that opened up post-Brexit that were not available being within the EU. It is now up to the Government to make every possible use of ALL options now available and those available as we ease our way out of the EU. The Referendum was not a General election. We were not voting for policies offered by parties. So your comments are rather irrelevant to be honest.. But I understand you didn't like the result. We get that." They lied
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"Bring back Tony blair "Not sure if criminals can be PM,if the iraq inquiry isnt a whitewash he will soon be in clink | |||
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"Bring back Tony blair
Not sure if criminals can be PM,if the iraq inquiry isnt a whitewash he will soon be in clink"Not a chance, if they make removing dictators in Arab countries leaving a vacuum for militias and terrorists then a more recent number 10 incumbent is in trouble as well. Both parties know that and will protect their own. | |||
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"i cannot believe ppl think boris would make a good pm . surely the tories are not stupid enough to make him there leader
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"Best quote from leave camp today Ian Duncan smith “We never made any commitments. We just made a series of promises that were possibilities.” Well, thanks for clearing that one up. Precisely how can a campaign consisting of people from many different parties make a 'commitment'? Did they produce a manifesto? No because they couldn't. And neither incidentally did the 'Remain side' for exactly the same reason. This was a binary referendum to decide do we stay or leave the EU. Just that and nothing else. As IDS said they were offering the possibilities that opened up post-Brexit that were not available being within the EU. It is now up to the Government to make every possible use of ALL options now available and those available as we ease our way out of the EU. The Referendum was not a General election. We were not voting for policies offered by parties. So your comments are rather irrelevant to be honest.. But I understand you didn't like the result. We get that. Reamin did have a manifesto of sorts, Cameron had concessions from the EU that people knew about. Leave did make claims. Farage confirmed this when he said it was a "mistake" to have made them in the first place. " When will people wake up to the fact that far age was nothing to do with the official vote leave campaign | |||
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"Bring back Tony blair
Not sure if criminals can be PM,if the iraq inquiry isnt a whitewash he will soon be in clink
Not a chance, if they make removing dictators in Arab countries leaving a vacuum for militias and terrorists then a more recent number 10 incumbent is in trouble as well.
Both parties know that and will protect their own."So true | |||
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"Best quote from leave camp today Ian Duncan smith “We never made any commitments. We just made a series of promises that were possibilities.” Well, thanks for clearing that one up. Precisely how can a campaign consisting of people from many different parties make a 'commitment'? Did they produce a manifesto? No because they couldn't. And neither incidentally did the 'Remain side' for exactly the same reason. This was a binary referendum to decide do we stay or leave the EU. Just that and nothing else. As IDS said they were offering the possibilities that opened up post-Brexit that were not available being within the EU. It is now up to the Government to make every possible use of ALL options now available and those available as we ease our way out of the EU. The Referendum was not a General election. We were not voting for policies offered by parties. So your comments are rather irrelevant to be honest.. But I understand you didn't like the result. We get that." Just a point, this wasn't a binary referendum, that is legally binding, this was an Advisory referendum, which is not legally binding to the government to act upon. Although there is no suggestion that they won't. | |||
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