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"So the pig fucker has resigned (just not quite yet!) Scotland and NI vote to remain and Martin McGuinness has already said that NI should consider independence... So we now face the spectre of the renewal of the 'troubles' and a rerun of last years Scottish referendum. It seems to me that 'call me Dave' is going to go down in history as the 'Tory Unionist' who sacrificed the political unity of of GB for a year in Downing St.!" . What is exactly wrong with northern Ireland if they so choose being an independent country?. The people from there(and I'm one of them) need to learn to get along and stop shooting each other!.... There adults treat them like adults | |||
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"I am respectful of the decision of the majority" I'm not, because the future of our species depends on building bridges, not walls. But that's okay, because a vague and misguided sense of national pride is way more important than that. | |||
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"What is exactly wrong with northern Ireland if they so choose being an independent country?. The people from there(and I'm one of them) need to learn to get along and stop shooting each other!.... There adults treat them like adults" Where were you in the 70s, 80s and early 90s? Do you remember the civil war that was being fought in NI? Do you remember what it was about? Do you really think that the Unionists (who seem to have voted 'leave') will just accept that the Nationalists (who seem to have voted 'remain') without resorting to violence? Remember that it was the Unionists who started the 'troubles' in 69 by attacking the civil rights campaigners and Catholics.  | |||
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"I am respectful of the decision of the majority I'm not, because the future of our species depends on building bridges, not walls. But that's okay, because a vague and misguided sense of national pride is way more important than that." we can now build bridges with the world more easily and knock down the walls of the EU and create a free Europe | |||
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"Con.....grat....tu....lations. and jubilation's I want the world to know I'm happy as can be.
"You ready to return home now then? Or are you now going to naturalise as an EU citizen to stay in Germany and Spain? | |||
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"I am respectful of the decision of the majority I'm not, because the future of our species depends on building bridges, not walls. But that's okay, because a vague and misguided sense of national pride is way more important than that. we can now build bridges with the world more easily and knock down the walls of the EU and create a free Europe" How? What are we going to do differently? Brexit has no plan or answers. | |||
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"Con.....grat....tu....lations. and jubilation's I want the world to know I'm happy as can be.
You ready to return home now then? Or are you now going to naturalise as an EU citizen to stay in Germany and Spain?"Why will I have to return home? Give me one genuine reason. | |||
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"we can now build bridges with the world more easily and knock down the walls of the EU and create a free Europe" What does that even mean?  Europe is free. I'm tired of hearing people talking about EU decision making procedures like it's some kind of damn fascism we've all been subjected to for forty years.
The only way we're trading with the U.S now is via the TTIP, which is a bit of a mess. And more generally, we won't be taken as seriously on the international stage anymore. These are statements I can make because they are based on evidence. All I hear from leavers is nationalistic drivel. | |||
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" The only way we're trading with the U.S now is via the TTIP, " Nonsense. TTIP hasn't even been signed yet. | |||
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"Why will I have to return home? Give me one genuine reason." So you do not think that all the ex pats living outside UK in EU countries will be able to continue as if nothing has changed once we leave the EU? I find it interesting that you think there will be no consequences to the out vote for you. I hope your right but think you may be in for a rude awakening. | |||
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"I am respectful of the decision of the majority I'm not, because the future of our species depends on building bridges, not walls. But that's okay, because a vague and misguided sense of national pride is way more important than that. we can now build bridges with the world more easily and knock down the walls of the EU and create a free Europe How? What are we going to do differently? Brexit has no plan or answers." what? You don't realise that the EU forces us to impose tariffs on goods imported from outside the EU? That any trade deals take years because 27 other countries have to be agree with them? Etc | |||
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"So the pig fucker has resigned (just not quite yet!) Scotland and NI vote to remain and Martin McGuinness has already said that NI should consider independence... So we now face the spectre of the renewal of the 'troubles' and a rerun of last years Scottish referendum. It seems to me that 'call me Dave' is going to go down in history as the 'Tory Unionist' who sacrificed the political unity of of GB for a year in Downing St.!" .what we should do is grant scotland indipendance and then give them morthern ireland a sa parting gift. And watch the fireworks. | |||
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"Why will I have to return home? Give me one genuine reason. So you do not think that all the ex pats living outside UK in EU countries will be able to continue as if nothing has changed once we leave the EU? I find it interesting that you think there will be no consequences to the out vote for you. I hope your right but think you may be in for a rude awakening. " Pretty much why would thier countries not grant them visas? Or residency | |||
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"I find it interesting that you think there will be no consequences to the out vote for you. I hope your right but think you may be in for a rude awakening. Pretty much why would thier countries not grant them visas? Or residency " Spite? Lol | |||
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"I find it interesting that you think there will be no consequences to the out vote for you. I hope your right but think you may be in for a rude awakening. Pretty much why would thier countries not grant them visas? Or residency Spite? Lol" I'm continually amazed how people think countries are run by 6 year olds. Let me rephrase "why would a country choose to destroy the local economy of many areas of thier own country?" | |||
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"Why will I have to return home? Give me one genuine reason." So you do not think that all the ex pats living outside UK in EU countries will be able to continue as if nothing has changed once we leave the EU? I find it interesting that you think there will be no consequences to the out vote for you. I hope your right but think you may be in for a rude awakening. "Pretty much why would thier countries not grant them visas? Or residency " Why do you think that the UK out vote which will destabilise the EU will not have consequences for UK citizens living in other parts of the EU? | |||
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) seeking to create a federal state - one set of laws, one currency, one set of regulations and - the big point - one leader. I work for a French company - I like the French. I like the Germans and the Poles and the Spanish and the Greeks and...because they are German, Greek, whatever and NOT European. It's good that nations have their own identities and so do their people. Why make everyone the same? Why make everyone conform to the same rules? (Do we, as 'swingers' conform to the norm (sorry!) No, we don't!)
For me, the bad outweighed the good; the European Court of Human Rights - protecting the rights of all sorts apart from victims and those that really need protection; the ludicrous regulations that make it easier to do business with the Far East than with Germany for example; the insane decisions about hairdryers, hoovers, bananas, bogs (yes, that's the 'eco flush' bogs that one has to flush 3 times after a monster _rs dump, thereby using more water than a good old-fashioned high cistern; the Eurocrats on expenses living it up in Brussels (really, you should go and see them, I have several times, and it isn't good.)
But - and it's a big but - I hope that something good comes out of this. I hope that someone takes control of the EU and returns it to its' original objectives and bins this federal rubbish once and for all. People have voted the way they have and that's what we should work with - for the record, had it been a 'remain' vote, I'd have said 'well, OK, I was on the losing side, but I'll muck in in the interests of unity'...
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"I am respectful of the decision of the majority I'm not, because the future of our species depends on building bridges, not walls. But that's okay, because a vague and misguided sense of national pride is way more important than that." I think you'll find the future of our species depends on survival and that starts with looking after yourself and having the best and most focused of interest's. Also you are very hostile and dismissive to those that voted out not exactly a patriot for 'building bridges' | |||
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"Seriously though, the next question has to be, who next? This result will encourage others to follow suit. In Holland Wilders (who is leading in the polls) has promised a referendum. Recent polls in France and Italy show a majority in favour of one. Sweden, Austria, and Finland will almost certainly demand one, and now all eyes must be on the Spanish general election on Sunday. The sound of squeaky bums coming out of Brussels is deafening. " The EU leadership (whoever they are) need to act quickly to stop a rapid disintegration. They should _iew this as a sign that the average person sees serious problems with its construct and listen to the people and look at reform of some key areas. | |||
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"I am respectful of the decision of the majority I'm not, because the future of our species depends on building bridges, not walls. But that's okay, because a vague and misguided sense of national pride is way more important than that." Hang on you complain about walls while aupporting possibly the most protectionist trading block on earth? We just basically walked out of the walled garden and into the town center. | |||
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"Seriously though, the next question has to be, who next? This result will encourage others to follow suit. In Holland Wilders (who is leading in the polls) has promised a referendum. Recent polls in France and Italy show a majority in favour of one. Sweden, Austria, and Finland will almost certainly demand one, and now all eyes must be on the Spanish general election on Sunday. The sound of squeaky bums coming out of Brussels is deafening. The EU leadership (whoever they are) need to act quickly to stop a rapid disintegration. They should _iew this as a sign that the average person sees serious problems with its construct and listen to the people and look at reform of some key areas." Problem is the EU needs fundamental structural reform. Which wont happen You arent going to have all thos egocenrment positions vote themsleves our of s job. Its been set up lackign transparency it needs it back but that can only really happen from the start | |||
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"And the bitchin continues "It's not bitching ffs it's a passionate thread in regards to a life changing event. I believe everyone is allowed an opinion and should be strong enough to be challenged. This will have many conflicts until people get personal. | |||
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"If Scotland vote to remain and the EU collapses, what happens then?" Cheap whiskey? | |||
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" I'm continually amazed how people think countries are run by 6 year olds. Let me rephrase "why would a country choose to destroy the local economy of many areas of thier own country?" " Good questions. Now let me rephrase your questions (starting with question 2). Why did we vote out yesterday when so many have warned that it will kill parts of our economy? Why would 'I fuck pigs Dave' cause a national schism and risk the union of the UK as well as the EU to stay in power? | |||
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"Hang on you complain about walls while aupporting possibly the most protectionist trading block on earth? We just basically walked out of the walled garden and into the town center." We are and have been trading with non-EU states, and have simultaneously benefitted, trade-wise, from EU membership. We were already in the town centre. Leaving the EU isn't suddenly going to give us some significant edge in international trade agreements. Certainly not significant enough to justify the downsides to this action. | |||
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" I'm continually amazed how people think countries are run by 6 year olds. Let me rephrase "why would a country choose to destroy the local economy of many areas of thier own country?" Good questions. Now let me rephrase your questions (starting with question 2). Why did we vote out yesterday when so many have warned that it will kill parts of our economy? Why would 'I fuck pigs Dave' cause a national schism and risk the union of the UK as well as the EU to stay in power?" Because it is unlikley to kill any parts of our economy and it provides other benifits in regarss to political and economic freedom Howndoes kicking out a bunch of cash cows entire towns are focused around comparable? Its not like it's going to be a vote winner | |||
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"Little Englanders have voted with their feet now they will become even smaller and more insignificant in the world without the backing of other parts of the now probable defunctUnited Kingdom. God bless England and all who sink with her. " Bet you're a joy to have around when faced with a challenge | |||
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"Hang on you complain about walls while aupporting possibly the most protectionist trading block on earth? We just basically walked out of the walled garden and into the town center. We are and have been trading with non-EU states, and have simultaneously benefitted, trade-wise, from EU membership. We were already in the town centre. Leaving the EU isn't suddenly going to give us some significant edge in international trade agreements. Certainly not significant enough to justify the downsides to this action." Well yes it is. You no longer have a mandatory tarriff with those non eu states you trade with. The EU was a walled garden Free within but very exoensive outside | |||
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"Why will I have to return home? Give me one genuine reason. So you do not think that all the ex pats living outside UK in EU countries will be able to continue as if nothing has changed once we leave the EU? I find it interesting that you think there will be no consequences to the out vote for you. I hope your right but think you may be in for a rude awakening. " OK personally being married to a German I'm a bit more insulated than most. For others, as is the same for EU citizens currently living in the UK. the 1969 Vienna treaty will protect them. While in itself it says nothing about immigration or movement of people, what it does do is protect the actions of people in relation to treaty's that are in force at the time (in this case Rome, Maastricht Lisbon Etc.). It is international law and trumps any EU law. As much as some would love me and others to get "a rude awakening" it will not happen. | |||
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"And the bitchin continues
It's not bitching ffs it's a passionate thread in regards to a life changing event. I believe everyone is allowed an opinion and should be strong enough to be challenged. This will have many conflicts until people get personal." | |||
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"Little Englanders have voted with their feet now they will become even smaller and more insignificant in the world without the backing of other parts of the now probable defunctUnited Kingdom. God bless England and all who sink with her. " This is bitching. At its finest. | |||
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" I'm continually amazed how people think countries are run by 6 year olds. Let me rephrase "why would a country choose to destroy the local economy of many areas of thier own country?" Good questions. Now let me rephrase your questions (starting with question 2). Why did we vote out yesterday when so many have warned that it will kill parts of our economy? Why would 'I fuck pigs Dave' cause a national schism and risk the union of the UK as well as the EU to stay in power? Because it is unlikley to kill any parts of our economy and it provides other benifits in regarss to political and economic freedom Howndoes kicking out a bunch of cash cows entire towns are focused around comparable? Its not like it's going to be a vote winner " So your answer to my first question is because we did not believe what we were being told. Why didn't you answer my second question? Is it because 'I fuck pigs' Dave and his political mates of all colours act just like spiteful 6 year olds. | |||
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"Little Englanders have voted with their feet now they will become even smaller and more insignificant in the world without the backing of other parts of the now probable defunctUnited Kingdom. God bless England and all who sink with her. " Don't have to ask which why you voted then | |||
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"For others, as is the same for EU citizens currently living in the UK. the 1969 Vienna treaty will protect them. While in itself it says nothing about immigration or movement of people, what it does do is protect the actions of people in relation to treaty's that are in force at the time (in this case Rome, Maastricht Lisbon Etc.). It is international law and trumps any EU law." The Vienna Convention clarifies how treaties are to be interpreted when in force. So once the UK removes it's signature from the relevant EU treaties, the Vienna Convention is of no assistance. The fate of EU citizens here no rests entirely on imminent negotiations. Although I suspect people who have been here long enough will be making hasty citizenship applications, if they are so inclined. | |||
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" I'm continually amazed how people think countries are run by 6 year olds. Let me rephrase "why would a country choose to destroy the local economy of many areas of thier own country?" Good questions. Now let me rephrase your questions (starting with question 2). Why did we vote out yesterday when so many have warned that it will kill parts of our economy? Why would 'I fuck pigs Dave' cause a national schism and risk the union of the UK as well as the EU to stay in power?" Dave risked the union to try and kill UKIP because their ~3m voters were threatening the future possibility of Tory majorities. Get a remain vote, kill UKIP, another Tory majority - happy days. Except it didn't go to plan. The reason it didn't go to plan is not racism or stupidity, it's the fact that the EU leadership is a disgraceful sack of shit that deserves every bit of criticism the leave campaign threw at it. It's been 8 fucking years and most it's members aren't better off than they were before the crisis so how the flip do you expect people to vote. Personally I voted to remain and deperately try and reform the beast but I get why others have given up. The EU has nobody to blame but themselves. Now let's go grovel to the commonwealth and see if they still want to be friends. | |||
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"Little Englanders have voted with their feet now they will become even smaller and more insignificant in the world without the backing of other parts of the now probable defunctUnited Kingdom. God bless England and all who sink with her. Don't have to ask which why you voted then "Who says we have to? I didn't vote that way but now the majority did we need to get onboard. Now that Dave has finished wrecking the union perhaps he could get on a plane and go suck some dicks in India, China and America to get us so sweet trade deals... | |||
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"For others, as is the same for EU citizens currently living in the UK. the 1969 Vienna treaty will protect them. While in itself it says nothing about immigration or movement of people, what it does do is protect the actions of people in relation to treaty's that are in force at the time (in this case Rome, Maastricht Lisbon Etc.). It is international law and trumps any EU law. The Vienna Convention clarifies how treaties are to be interpreted when in force. So once the UK removes it's signature from the relevant EU treaties, the Vienna Convention is of no assistance. The fate of EU citizens here no rests entirely on imminent negotiations. Although I suspect people who have been here long enough will be making hasty citizenship applications, if they are so inclined." EU citizens I think will be fine in this country, those that wish to come in the future may be affected. Those who have settled here, have had children here who are British citizens will not have to leave just as no other country would kick out British citizens working and living in their country, it wouldn't make any economical sense to do that. Just as Americans, Australians etc come over to the UK to live and work, and visa versa. | |||
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"Now that Dave has finished wrecking the union perhaps he could get on a plane and go suck some dicks in India, China and America to get us so sweet trade deals..." Lol. The way some leavers talk about it, if the international stage was Fabswingers, the UK is a 21 year old single female, a size 8 with DD tits and a penchant for gangbangs XD When actually it's just a single guy. A hot single guy maybe, but a single guy nonetheless. | |||
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"Little Englanders have voted with their feet now they will become even smaller and more insignificant in the world without the backing of other parts of the now probable defunctUnited Kingdom. God bless England and all who sink with her. " See ya then. Enjoy negotiating your way into the EU. | |||
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"Now that Dave has finished wrecking the union perhaps he could get on a plane and go suck some dicks in India, China and America to get us so sweet trade deals... Lol. The way some leavers talk about it, if the international stage was Fabswingers, the UK is a 21 year old single female, a size 8 with DD tits and a penchant for gangbangs XD When actually it's just a single guy. A hot single guy maybe, but a single guy nonetheless." Good analogy. Well frankly Dave made the mess so he can bloody well fix it. Let's banish him from the UK until he comes back with good trade deals, if he needs to do gay-for-pay to get them, that's his problem. | |||
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"Little Englanders have voted with their feet now they will become even smaller and more insignificant in the world without the backing of other parts of the now probable defunctUnited Kingdom. God bless England and all who sink with her. Don't have to ask which why you voted then
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I didn't vote that way but now the majority did we need to get onboard. Now that Dave has finished wrecking the union perhaps he could get on a plane and go suck some dicks in India, China and America to get us so sweet trade deals..."I was with you until you said Dave sucking dick, not an image I want in my head thanks | |||
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"Little Englanders have voted with their feet now they will become even smaller and more insignificant in the world without the backing of other parts of the now probable defunctUnited Kingdom. God bless England and all who sink with her. Don't have to ask which why you voted then
Who says we have to?
I didn't vote that way but now the majority did we need to get onboard. Now that Dave has finished wrecking the union perhaps he could get on a plane and go suck some dicks in India, China and America to get us so sweet trade deals..."he doesn't want to be the one at present to implement article 50, he's leaving that he thinks for someone else to have on their cv / legacy.. the EU will not want to wait till the Tories have found another leader though.. | |||
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"I am respectful of the decision of the majority I'm not, because the future of our species depends on building bridges, not walls. But that's okay, because a vague and misguided sense of national pride is way more important than that." i have to disagree. The overpopulation and squandering of finite resources and damage to the planet's ability to support life by humans is to blame. | |||
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"OK personally being married to a German I'm a bit more insulated than most. For others, as is the same for EU citizens currently living in the UK. the 1969 Vienna treaty will protect them. While in itself it says nothing about immigration or movement of people, what it does do is protect the actions of people in relation to treaty's that are in force at the time (in this case Rome, Maastricht Lisbon Etc.). It is international law and trumps any EU law. As much as some would love me and others to get "a rude awakening" it will not happen." I did realise your married to a German (you had mentioned it in the past) and as such are protected. When I say you I mean ex pats in general not those who have married locals, who are in the minority I believe. I think you (like many) are not looking at the whole picture. I believe it is not just a vote to leave the EU that we have seen. We will now see unstoppable pressure for the UK to withdraw from the Council of Europe and the European Convention of Human Rights and its court. When that happens I believe you will find most if not all your protection in international law will evaporate as others decide that the UK must be punished for its international political vandalism. | |||
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"Little Englanders have voted with their feet now they will become even smaller and more insignificant in the world without the backing of other parts of the now probable defunctUnited Kingdom. God bless England and all who sink with her. Don't have to ask which why you voted then
Who says we have to?
I didn't vote that way but now the majority did we need to get onboard. Now that Dave has finished wrecking the union perhaps he could get on a plane and go suck some dicks in India, China and America to get us so sweet trade deals...
I was with you until you said Dave sucking dick, not an image I want in my head thanks "Well seriously, there's no point bitching about it. There is actually a world of opportunity out there. The EU had advantages but it also had a heck of a lot of problems we are freed from, yeah we had bargaining power due to the size but you cannot get Germans and Spaniards to agree on anything! So what it had in clout, it lacked in flexibility. A savvy negotiator would exploit that, we're a rich country with loose morals and we're open for business | |||
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"I am respectful of the decision of the majority I'm not, because the future of our species depends on building bridges, not walls. But that's okay, because a vague and misguided sense of national pride is way more important than that. i have to disagree. The overpopulation and squandering of finite resources and damage to the planet's ability to support life by humans is to blame. " That and Jeremy Corbyn | |||
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"Little Englanders have voted with their feet now they will become even smaller and more insignificant in the world without the backing of other parts of the now probable defunctUnited Kingdom. God bless England and all who sink with her. Don't have to ask which why you voted then
Who says we have to?
I didn't vote that way but now the majority did we need to get onboard. Now that Dave has finished wrecking the union perhaps he could get on a plane and go suck some dicks in India, China and America to get us so sweet trade deals...
he doesn't want to be the one at present to implement article 50, he's leaving that he thinks for someone else to have on their cv / legacy..
the EU will not want to wait till the Tories have found another leader though.."Well his CV will have the breakup of the union on it now so swings and roundabouts... | |||
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"I am respectful of the decision of the majority I'm not, because the future of our species depends on building bridges, not walls. But that's okay, because a vague and misguided sense of national pride is way more important than that." All bridges have a tolerance before it becomes unstable and collapses taking everyone on it. The original idea of the EEC was sound, the current direction of all consuming Federalisation is wrong for Europe, certainly at this point in history. Nationalistic tendencies all over Europe are still too strong. If French farmers/ Spanish fisherman do not like the rules they create havoc. If Merkle wants migration in EU she tells Hollande/Junckes and policy is set. Right wingers/UKip xenophobes over egg matters here. Europe has an opportunity to now and wake up call to seriously re-evaluate and restructure or carry on regardless and fall. Are we safer in the EU? Has the EU kept peace in Europe. NATO and the UN are responsible for that. A European Army will put us more at risk, as I cannot see the US/Canada continuing to put resources into NATO Trade issues will be a problem for a few years as we disentangle from Europe, but better relations with the Commonwealth and the developing world will make up for that. Trade with the US will be fine, they will always require our Armed Forces for the next foreign conflict, how often does France and Germany support their foreign misadventures? Rightly or wrongly the US ill not risk our military support for trade issues. I am nervous but glad we got Brexit, had root and branch reform been capable of the EU, I would have been for remain. Either result would have meant pulling together to make the best of it for the UK. Can people be grown up enough to do this? I doubt it, we get too much pleasure tearing ourselves apart | |||
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"Little Englanders have voted with their feet now they will become even smaller and more insignificant in the world without the backing of other parts of the now probable defunctUnited Kingdom. God bless England and all who sink with her. Don't have to ask which why you voted then
Who says we have to?
I didn't vote that way but now the majority did we need to get onboard. Now that Dave has finished wrecking the union perhaps he could get on a plane and go suck some dicks in India, China and America to get us so sweet trade deals...
he doesn't want to be the one at present to implement article 50, he's leaving that he thinks for someone else to have on their cv / legacy..
the EU will not want to wait till the Tories have found another leader though..
Well his CV will have the breakup of the union on it now so swings and roundabouts... "it may well do yes but his biographer will spin that as delivering democracy.. will there be a spate of blond rinses in middle aged men and a rise in the popularity of the name Boris in christenings i wonder.. | |||
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"Little Englanders have voted with their feet now they will become even smaller and more insignificant in the world without the backing of other parts of the now probable defunctUnited Kingdom. God bless England and all who sink with her. Don't have to ask which why you voted then
Who says we have to?
I didn't vote that way but now the majority did we need to get onboard. Now that Dave has finished wrecking the union perhaps he could get on a plane and go suck some dicks in India, China and America to get us so sweet trade deals...
I was with you until you said Dave sucking dick, not an image I want in my head thanks
Well seriously, there's no point bitching about it. There is actually a world of opportunity out there. The EU had advantages but it also had a heck of a lot of problems we are freed from, yeah we had bargaining power due to the size but you cannot get Germans and Spaniards to agree on anything! So what it had in clout, it lacked in flexibility. A savvy negotiator would exploit that, we're a rich country with loose morals and we're open for business"Can't agree more time to stop bitchin, yes I said it again, and get on with things, we are out now like it or not so lets work to make sure it it bloody well works. | |||
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"Little Englanders have voted with their feet now they will become even smaller and more insignificant in the world without the backing of other parts of the now probable defunctUnited Kingdom. God bless England and all who sink with her. Don't have to ask which why you voted then
Who says we have to?
I didn't vote that way but now the majority did we need to get onboard. Now that Dave has finished wrecking the union perhaps he could get on a plane and go suck some dicks in India, China and America to get us so sweet trade deals...
he doesn't want to be the one at present to implement article 50, he's leaving that he thinks for someone else to have on their cv / legacy..
the EU will not want to wait till the Tories have found another leader though..
Well his CV will have the breakup of the union on it now so swings and roundabouts...
it may well do yes but his biographer will spin that as delivering democracy..
will there be a spate of blond rinses in middle aged men and a rise in the popularity of the name Boris in christenings i wonder.."He's got balls I'll give him that. I thought leading the charge on what appeared to be a doomed campaign was career suicide but I have been proved wrong!! At the end of the day I'd like Boris in power because he promised us a land of milk and honey if we voted out so time to deliver please... | |||
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"Britain will be Great again . And why ? Because Boris will lead us forward ...... A great speech , and when he chooses his cabinet we will see a fantastic government who I believe will stay in power for a long time to come "Britain is going to become England and Wales very quickly!! | |||
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"I was on the winning side in the Scottish Referendum and remained dignified I am not on the winning side this time and will remain dignified The majority spoke, let's give it a fair chance "Dignity on Fab? Never  | |||
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"I was on the winning side in the Scottish Referendum and remained dignified I am not on the winning side this time and will remain dignified The majority spoke, let's give it a fair chance
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I was sad before yesterdays vote with the bile and vitriol that was being flung around by both sides and I'm still sad by the same thing happening now...Both on here, the book of face and the media (Wrighty atm)
The decision has been made and all we can do now is pull together and make what we can of whatever happens next (which in all honesty nobody really knows what that is) so please be civil, dignified and calm as it might actually turn out to be the best thing that ever happened to this country. It might not but it's going to be a while until we find out either way so as this site is all about making friends and having fun how about we all just concentrate on that instead...Peace and love to you all...Whichever way you voted | |||
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"What is exactly wrong with northern Ireland if they so choose being an independent country?. The people from there(and I'm one of them) need to learn to get along and stop shooting each other!.... There adults treat them like adults Where were you in the 70s, 80s and early 90s? Do you remember the civil war that was being fought in NI? Do you remember what it was about? Do you really think that the Unionists (who seem to have voted 'leave') will just accept that the Nationalists (who seem to have voted 'remain') without resorting to violence? Remember that it was the Unionists who started the 'troubles' in 69 by attacking the civil rights campaigners and Catholics. ". I was living there a northern Irish protestant mother and an Irish catholic father!!. I'm afraid to tell you that both sides were as bad as each other, sooner or later you just have to learn to live with your differences without killing each other. | |||
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"This is where the leave people will (and I hope I'm wrong) Start saying things like 'But Boris you said.....' And 'This isn't what we signed up for'" ...and in the fullness of time the truth will emerge. | |||
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"This day and the vote is a very bad day for the youngsters of this country...three quarters of all younger ones voted to stay....wont be long till the tories are selling off the family jewels to deliver on there promises....the EU wanted the UK to have a min wage of £10 per hour...the tories vetoed it...what you sow is what you reap ". Well then they can vote labour, liberal, green or ukip.... That's how it works, oh and also George Osbourne ... Yeah he's said he's going to raise minium wage above that??.
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"This day and the vote is a very bad day for the youngsters of this country...three quarters of all younger ones voted to stay....wont be long till the tories are selling off the family jewels to deliver on there promises....the EU wanted the UK to have a min wage of £10 per hour...the tories vetoed it...what you sow is what you reap "
Just my 10 cents but our young people will pay for this. With Uni fees rising, the only option for lots was the thought of studying within the EU; Holland, Milan etc; minimal fees and in some cases no fees at all.
There will be no more Erasmus exchange (eventually) so no more option of side stepping astronomical dept for wanting to better themselves. I feel (once again; MY opinion), that it will in time lead to us (UK) having less of a higher educated population thus needing to bring in others nations to cover the shortfall. | |||
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"This is where the leave people will (and I hope I'm wrong) Start saying things like 'But Boris you said.....' And 'This isn't what we signed up for' ...and in the fullness of time the truth will emerge." And I don't think they'll like it | |||
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"This day and the vote is a very bad day for the youngsters of this country...three quarters of all younger ones voted to stay....wont be long till the tories are selling off the family jewels to deliver on there promises....the EU wanted the UK to have a min wage of £10 per hour...the tories vetoed it...what you sow is what you reap
Just my 10 cents but our young people will pay for this. With Uni fees rising, the only option for lots was the thought of studying within the EU; Holland, Milan etc; minimal fees and in some cases no fees at all.
There will be no more Erasmus exchange (eventually) so no more option of side stepping astronomical dept for wanting to better themselves. I feel (once again; MY opinion), that it will in time lead to us (UK) having less of a higher educated population thus needing to bring in others nations to cover the shortfall."Exactly. | |||
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"This day and the vote is a very bad day for the youngsters of this country...three quarters of all younger ones voted to stay....wont be long till the tories are selling off the family jewels to deliver on there promises....the EU wanted the UK to have a min wage of £10 per hour...the tories vetoed it...what you sow is what you reap .
Well then they can vote labour, liberal, green or ukip.... That's how it works, oh and also George Osbourne ... Yeah he's said he's going to raise minium wage above that??.
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"It's politics whichever way the vote went someone was going to be disappointed. The in voters all say a storms coming but the way your all bickering amongst yourselves and have been for weeks the storms already hit. No side has a crystal ball telling them what the future will hold. The decisions made so dust yourselves off and ride it out that's all we can do Agreed but at least with remain it was a more educated guess. We were already there Leave is a massive gamble All over immigration???? There's a bigger picture Show strength of feeling I guess " | |||
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"This is where the leave people will (and I hope I'm wrong) Start saying things like 'But Boris you said.....' And 'This isn't what we signed up for' ...and in the fullness of time the truth will emerge. And I don't think they'll like it " Nigel Farage: £350 million pledge to fund the NHS was 'a mistake' | |||
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"This is where the leave people will (and I hope I'm wrong) Start saying things like 'But Boris you said.....' And 'This isn't what we signed up for' ...and in the fullness of time the truth will emerge. And I don't think they'll like it Nigel Farage: £350 million pledge to fund the NHS was 'a mistake'" Has he just said that ? | |||
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"I am respectful of the decision of the majority I'm not, because the future of our species depends on building bridges, not walls. But that's okay, because a vague and misguided sense of national pride is way more important than that. i have to disagree. The overpopulation and squandering of finite resources and damage to the planet's ability to support life by humans is to blame. " . Your a man after my own heart!!. . . Still you try telling these folks that there holiday to benidorm is the actual problem or shipping oranges from Spain to California while shopping oranges back the other way and then on to a place where there out of season for six months, so you can nip down to Morrison's in your 4x4 and pay on your apple phone made in China to a check out girl from Slovakia!!. No that's progress  | |||
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"Very Disappointing but I am respectful of the decision of the majority I wish the future good luck and hope there are many successes to celebrate. I am sure the future leaders with carry the full accountability of the decision "yes the majority in Scotland voted to stay. | |||
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"I am respectful of the decision of the majority I'm not, because the future of our species depends on building bridges, not walls. But that's okay, because a vague and misguided sense of national pride is way more important than that." Omg France are going to invade us because we left the eu why did nobody tell me before the vote oh yeah that's right because it will not happen and as for the future of our species that relies far more on other things than us gating on politically | |||
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"Can somebody tell me how this will effect Irish working in uk??" . Not alot of difference for awhile, then you might have to apply for a visa like the rest of the world | |||
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"Can somebody tell me how this will effect Irish working in uk??" Like as not, it won't have a great effect. Due to our very long standing relationship before the EEC/EU, Irish citizens have enjoyed the right to travel and work in the UK as have UK citizens to visit and work in Ireland (both sides of the border). One of the consequences of history. Only recently (within the last 30 years) have we needed to produce ID to travel between the two lands, and that ID didn't need to be a passport. I personally don't believe that that arrangement will change. | |||
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"This is where the leave people will (and I hope I'm wrong) Start saying things like 'But Boris you said.....' And 'This isn't what we signed up for' ...and in the fullness of time the truth will emerge. And I don't think they'll like it Nigel Farage: £350 million pledge to fund the NHS was 'a mistake' Has he just said that ?" On the breakfast news this morning! | |||
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"I have to admit I am stunned at the leave vote. Basically England and Wales have voted leave and dragged Northern Ireland and Scotland with them." . That sounds bad but then the reality is.... less people live in northern Ireland and Scotland than in London.... And they out voted them as well!!. That's democracy for yer | |||
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"I have to admit I am stunned at the leave vote. Basically England and Wales have voted leave and dragged Northern Ireland and Scotland with them.. That sounds bad but then the reality is.... less people live in northern Ireland and Scotland than in London.... And they out voted them as well!!. That's democracy for yer" maybe London should try n leave the uk like Scotland will | |||
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"Nicola Sturgeon making speech now. Is saying second referendum is required." Under the terms of the original Scottish independence referendum I believe that BrExit allows for a new Scotland vote. | |||
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"I am respectful of the decision of the majority I'm not, because the future of our species depends on building bridges, not walls. But that's okay, because a vague and misguided sense of national pride is way more important than that. Omg France are going to invade us because we left the eu why did nobody tell me before the vote oh yeah that's right because it will not happen and as for the future of our species that relies far more on other things than us gating on politically " Ah now I understand. Thank you for enlightening me. All the wars, in all the world, where countless members of our species perished, had nothing to do with politics! (Hurries off to rewrite the history books.) (Rewritten without the omission of keywords). | |||
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"Nicola Sturgeon making speech now. Is saying second referendum is required. Under the terms of the original Scottish independence referendum I believe that BrExit allows for a new Scotland vote." it does indeed,but the uk government has broken its promises to Scotland over and over. I don't think the scots will vote no this time | |||
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"So the pig fucker has resigned (just not quite yet!) Scotland and NI vote to remain and Martin McGuinness has already said that NI should consider independence... So we now face the spectre of the renewal of the 'troubles' and a rerun of last years Scottish referendum. It seems to me that 'call me Dave' is going to go down in history as the 'Tory Unionist' who sacrificed the political unity of of GB for a year in Downing St.!" It would be interesting to know how an independent NI could be financed . Some people live in dreamland. | |||
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"This day and the vote is a very bad day for the youngsters of this country...three quarters of all younger ones voted to stay....wont be long till the tories are selling off the family jewels to deliver on there promises....the EU wanted the UK to have a min wage of £10 per hour...the tories vetoed it...what you sow is what you reap "There is no need to worry about a minimum wage. Anyone who thinks that they are underpaid can simply leave their job and go to work elsewhere. | |||
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"Nicola Sturgeon making speech now. Is saying second referendum is required. Under the terms of the original Scottish independence referendum I believe that BrExit allows for a new Scotland vote. it does indeed,but the uk government has broken its promises to Scotland over and over. I don't think the scots will vote no this time" . That would be great, the reality is England pays Scotland hand over fist!. They do this for various reasons like, oil and nukes. I'd love to see how old crankie would pay for those free subscriptions and uni fees | |||
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"So the pig fucker has resigned (just not quite yet!) Scotland and NI vote to remain and Martin McGuinness has already said that NI should consider independence... So we now face the spectre of the renewal of the 'troubles' and a rerun of last years Scottish referendum. It seems to me that 'call me Dave' is going to go down in history as the 'Tory Unionist' who sacrificed the political unity of of GB for a year in Downing St.! It would be interesting to know how an independent NI could be financed . Some people live in dreamland. " The suggestion is as part of a united Ireland. It's not as outlandish as you seem to be implying. These are strange, but interesting waters we find ourselves in... | |||
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"Nicola Sturgeon making speech now. Is saying second referendum is required. Under the terms of the original Scottish independence referendum I believe that BrExit allows for a new Scotland vote. it does indeed,but the uk government has broken its promises to Scotland over and over. I don't think the scots will vote no this time. That would be great, the reality is England pays Scotland hand over fist!. They do this for various reasons like, oil and nukes. I'd love to see how old crankie would pay for those free subscriptions and uni fees" utter crap | |||
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"This day and the vote is a very bad day for the youngsters of this country...three quarters of all younger ones voted to stay....wont be long till the tories are selling off the family jewels to deliver on there promises....the EU wanted the UK to have a min wage of £10 per hour...the tories vetoed it...what you sow is what you reap There is no need to worry about a minimum wage. Anyone who thinks that they are underpaid can simply leave their job and go to work elsewhere. "Some dont have that option....especially the younger people of this country...im guessing your an OLDER gentleman | |||
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"I am respectful of the decision of the majority I'm not, because the future of our species depends on building bridges, not walls. But that's okay, because a vague and misguided sense of national pride is way more important than that. Omg France are going to invade us because we left the eu why did nobody tell me before the vote oh yeah that's right because it will not happen and as for the future of our species that relies far more on other things than us gating on politically Ah now I understand. Thank you for enlightening me. All the wars, in all the world, where countless members of our species perished, had nothing to do with politics! (Hurries off to rewrite the history books.) (Rewritten without the omission of keywords)." . The two main ones were caused by political pacts!!. If you'd taken a referendum on how many British guys fancied dying in a trench in Belgium I reckon the turnout would have been quite high | |||
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"So the pig fucker has resigned (just not quite yet!) Scotland and NI vote to remain and Martin McGuinness has already said that NI should consider independence... So we now face the spectre of the renewal of the 'troubles' and a rerun of last years Scottish referendum. It seems to me that 'call me Dave' is going to go down in history as the 'Tory Unionist' who sacrificed the political unity of of GB for a year in Downing St.! It would be interesting to know how an independent NI could be financed . Some people live in dreamland. The suggestion is as part of a united Ireland. It's not as outlandish as you seem to be implying. These are strange, but interesting waters we find ourselves in..." . Here's an idea, the 650,000 nationalists that really can't live with that idea can come to the mainland, I'm guessing but I'd say there's only about 15% who are that vitriolic about it, so that's about 100,000 or six months EU immigration back the mainland. Everybody who's just well, reasonable can just carry on living in Ireland/n Ireland call it what you like, it's just home to most people there. | |||
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"I fear for the future tbh So you fear the unknown then that's very similar to a lot of people and that's been a real fear many had many years before this referendum came about and a real fear many will continue to have " . We have nothing to fear but fear itself.... Great politican FDR | |||
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"Nicola Sturgeon making speech now. Is saying second referendum is required. Under the terms of the original Scottish independence referendum I believe that BrExit allows for a new Scotland vote. it does indeed,but the uk government has broken its promises to Scotland over and over. I don't think the scots will vote no this time" I still think she was one of the krankies | |||
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"What is exactly wrong with northern Ireland if they so choose being an independent country?. The people from there(and I'm one of them) need to learn to get along and stop shooting each other!.... There adults treat them like adults Where were you in the 70s, 80s and early 90s? Do you remember the civil war that was being fought in NI? Do you remember what it was about? Do you really think that the Unionists (who seem to have voted 'leave') will just accept that the Nationalists (who seem to have voted 'remain') without resorting to violence? Remember that it was the Unionists who started the 'troubles' in 69 by attacking the civil rights campaigners and Catholics. "Northern Ireland is entirely different now to what it was thirty years ago . Any current conflict is due to criminal gang selling drugs etc and their political allegiance is just an excuse to cover their criminal activities . As Northern Ireland is not Financially viable ., independence is a non starter | |||
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"Nicola Sturgeon making speech now. Is saying second referendum is required. Under the terms of the original Scottish independence referendum I believe that BrExit allows for a new Scotland vote. it does indeed,but the uk government has broken its promises to Scotland over and over. I don't think the scots will vote no this time I still think she was one of the krankies" good for you,,i doubt she cares what a faceless swinger on the internet thinks of her | |||
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"I fear for the future tbh " The future is not known or promised to us. That said, I do feel sad. This referendum seems to have been won on immigration. As a child of immigrants I feel uneasy. My other half is Dutch, happy with the result and doesn't understand my unease. I hope my unease is unfounded...but I doubt it. | |||
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"So the pig fucker has resigned (just not quite yet!) Scotland and NI vote to remain and Martin McGuinness has already said that NI should consider independence... So we now face the spectre of the renewal of the 'troubles' and a rerun of last years Scottish referendum. It seems to me that 'call me Dave' is going to go down in history as the 'Tory Unionist' who sacrificed the political unity of of GB for a year in Downing St.! It would be interesting to know how an independent NI could be financed . Some people live in dreamland. " think sinn fein would be more wanting of a united Ireland, in which case we wouldn't have to finance it.. given the demographics there will be a tipping point in the North where there will be a majority who the Nationalist politicians would think will also want that but they may be proved wrong.. the people in the North across the communities want to maintain the peace with the security and stability that brings (yes its not perfect by any stretch yet), i think that will be paramount in how they choose if the question is asked.... | |||
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"I am respectful of the decision of the majority I'm not, because the future of our species depends on building bridges, not walls. But that's okay, because a vague and misguided sense of national pride is way more important than that. Omg France are going to invade us because we left the eu why did nobody tell me before the vote oh yeah that's right because it will not happen and as for the future of our species that relies far more on other things than us gating on politically Ah now I understand. Thank you for enlightening me. All the wars, in all the world, where countless members of our species perished, had nothing to do with politics! (Hurries off to rewrite the history books.) (Rewritten without the omission of keywords).. The two main ones were caused by political pacts!!. If you'd taken a referendum on how many British guys fancied dying in a trench in Belgium I reckon the turnout would have been quite high" Er. American war of independance, American civil war, TWO english civil wars, war with Spain (Spanish armada and all that), War with France (Napoleon), Vietnam, Boer war, Anglo Zulu war (Rourke's drift) to name but a few. All politically motivated. | |||
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"I think its amazing how many polictical and economic experts we have especially when the real experts couldnt predict the future. At the end of the day whats important now is the terms of exit and how the control we get back is used. But id bet the voting figures go back down at the next election. But opnions of those who dont bother voting will still be in abundance. Dont like the result? Fair enough. But it proves the power of change lies with your vote so use it wisely. " With such a low turn out by the under 25s I hope they realise the value and power of their vote. Whatever our _iews of the result, this does show the power of democracy, despite virtually every institution of note, IMF, Bank of England, President of the US etc saying don't do it, the British public has done their own thing. | |||
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"I am respectful of the decision of the majority I'm not, because the future of our species depends on building bridges, not walls. But that's okay, because a vague and misguided sense of national pride is way more important than that. Omg France are going to invade us because we left the eu why did nobody tell me before the vote oh yeah that's right because it will not happen and as for the future of our species that relies far more on other things than us gating on politically Ah now I understand. Thank you for enlightening me. All the wars, in all the world, where countless members of our species perished, had nothing to do with politics! (Hurries off to rewrite the history books.) (Rewritten without the omission of keywords)." Where did I talk about wars not being about politics ? I simply said we will not descend into war as a result of leaving the eu and that our species future relies on so much more than politics such as climate change, disease control and ever dwindling natural resources but that's a whole other thread | |||
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"Can somebody tell me how this will effect Irish working in uk?? Like as not, it won't have a great effect. Due to our very long standing relationship before the EEC/EU, Irish citizens have enjoyed the right to travel and work in the UK as have UK citizens to visit and work in Ireland (both sides of the border). One of the consequences of history. Only recently (within the last 30 years) have we needed to produce ID to travel between the two lands, and that ID didn't need to be a passport. I personally don't believe that that arrangement will change." thanks for the info iam just wondering as iam working in the uk and wanted too knoe how it would effect me! So when I go home for a hoikday I can go back no problem ha | |||
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"Nicola Sturgeon making speech now. Is saying second referendum is required. Under the terms of the original Scottish independence referendum I believe that BrExit allows for a new Scotland vote. it does indeed,but the uk government has broken its promises to Scotland over and over. I don't think the scots will vote no this time I still think she was one of the krankies good for you,,i doubt she cares what a faceless swinger on the internet thinks of her "I'm curious, is Scotland actually in the EU at the moment or are they in there classed as the UK? | |||
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"This day and the vote is a very bad day for the youngsters of this country...three quarters of all younger ones voted to stay....wont be long till the tories are selling off the family jewels to deliver on there promises....the EU wanted the UK to have a min wage of £10 per hour...the tories vetoed it...what you sow is what you reap There is no need to worry about a minimum wage. Anyone who thinks that they are underpaid can simply leave their job and go to work elsewhere. "Absolutely , well said that man | |||
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"Nicola Sturgeon making speech now. Is saying second referendum is required. Under the terms of the original Scottish independence referendum I believe that BrExit allows for a new Scotland vote. it does indeed,but the uk government has broken its promises to Scotland over and over. I don't think the scots will vote no this time I still think she was one of the krankies good for you,,i doubt she cares what a faceless swinger on the internet thinks of her
I'm curious, is Scotland actually in the EU at the moment or are they in there classed as the UK?"No they are out as the vote was over all for the UK They are taking about another independence vote though so they can go back in as they didn't want to leave, over all Scotland voted in | |||
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"Nicola Sturgeon making speech now. Is saying second referendum is required. Under the terms of the original Scottish independence referendum I believe that BrExit allows for a new Scotland vote. it does indeed,but the uk government has broken its promises to Scotland over and over. I don't think the scots will vote no this time I still think she was one of the krankies good for you,,i doubt she cares what a faceless swinger on the internet thinks of her
I'm curious, is Scotland actually in the EU at the moment or are they in there classed as the UK?
No they are out as the vote was over all for the UK
They are taking about another independence vote though so they can go back in as they didn't want to leave, over all Scotland voted in"Do the Scots really think the EU will want them ? | |||
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"Only we Brits could come up with a plan like this. Don't panic Mr Mainwaring. Don't panic. Don't panicccccccc." 'keep calm and come up with a plan ffs' said Boris.. | |||
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"Saw this on Facebook, dear God!.... Eh so if we leave the eu does England get moved across the world? Or does it just stay where it is?" lol | |||
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"Nicola Sturgeon making speech now. Is saying second referendum is required. Under the terms of the original Scottish independence referendum I believe that BrExit allows for a new Scotland vote. it does indeed,but the uk government has broken its promises to Scotland over and over. I don't think the scots will vote no this time I still think she was one of the krankies good for you,,i doubt she cares what a faceless swinger on the internet thinks of her
I'm curious, is Scotland actually in the EU at the moment or are they in there classed as the UK?
No they are out as the vote was over all for the UK
They are taking about another independence vote though so they can go back in as they didn't want to leave, over all Scotland voted in
Do the Scots really think the EU will want them ?
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"Saw this on Facebook, dear God!.... Eh so if we leave the eu does England get moved across the world? Or does it just stay where it is?" Will you stop making me laugh I'm trying to be angry | |||
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"Nicola Sturgeon making speech now. Is saying second referendum is required. Under the terms of the original Scottish independence referendum I believe that BrExit allows for a new Scotland vote. it does indeed,but the uk government has broken its promises to Scotland over and over. I don't think the scots will vote no this time I still think she was one of the krankies good for you,,i doubt she cares what a faceless swinger on the internet thinks of her
I'm curious, is Scotland actually in the EU at the moment or are they in there classed as the UK?
No they are out as the vote was over all for the UK
They are taking about another independence vote though so they can go back in as they didn't want to leave, over all Scotland voted in
Do the Scots really think the EU will want them ?
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"Saw this on Facebook, dear God!.... Eh so if we leave the eu does England get moved across the world? Or does it just stay where it is? Will you stop making me laugh I'm trying to be angry "We could just install new internal borders, using the M25 around London linked to Scotland via the M1 and across to Northern Ireland, call it United Kindominia and leave Wales and the rest of England as the United Kingdomoutia? | |||
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"We need a November general election so that there is a clear mandate to negotiate the exit. A personal wish is for Corbyn to step down. His failure to communicate to his own voters shows how useless he is." . Labour voters didn't want to vote remain.... It's just that simple. We don't need another election we just had one and we voted in the Tories!. This isn't one of those kids games where we can just constantly keep voting on shit till we get what you wanted, it's called society, you give and you take... | |||
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"Nicola Sturgeon making speech now. Is saying second referendum is required. Under the terms of the original Scottish independence referendum I believe that BrExit allows for a new Scotland vote. it does indeed,but the uk government has broken its promises to Scotland over and over. I don't think the scots will vote no this time I still think she was one of the krankies good for you,,i doubt she cares what a faceless swinger on the internet thinks of her
I'm curious, is Scotland actually in the EU at the moment or are they in there classed as the UK?
No they are out as the vote was over all for the UK
They are taking about another independence vote though so they can go back in as they didn't want to leave, over all Scotland voted in
Do the Scots really think the EU will want them ?
that's what I was thinking. Even if they got independance they've got no chance"Exactly , and since they seem hell bent on voting against anything we want since the general election , I truly hope they do get independence | |||
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"We need a November general election so that there is a clear mandate to negotiate the exit. A personal wish is for Corbyn to step down. His failure to communicate to his own voters shows how useless he is." I think many people voted emotionally, so any amount of great communication would have made little difference. If you can't communicate rationally with someone, they're a lost cause to rabble rousing propaganda. | |||
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"Nicola Sturgeon making speech now. Is saying second referendum is required. Under the terms of the original Scottish independence referendum I believe that BrExit allows for a new Scotland vote. it does indeed,but the uk government has broken its promises to Scotland over and over. I don't think the scots will vote no this time I still think she was one of the krankies good for you,,i doubt she cares what a faceless swinger on the internet thinks of her
I'm curious, is Scotland actually in the EU at the moment or are they in there classed as the UK?
No they are out as the vote was over all for the UK
They are taking about another independence vote though so they can go back in as they didn't want to leave, over all Scotland voted in
Do the Scots really think the EU will want them ?
that's what I was thinking. Even if they got independance they've got no chance
Exactly , and since they seem hell bent on voting against anything we want since the general election , I truly hope they do get independence ""hell bent on voting against anything we want",,lol "we" interesting,,i reckon us scots have thought the same for decades. lol,,im still laughing at "we" | |||
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"We need a November general election so that there is a clear mandate to negotiate the exit. A personal wish is for Corbyn to step down. His failure to communicate to his own voters shows how useless he is. I think many people voted emotionally, so any amount of great communication would have made little difference. If you can't communicate rationally with someone, they're a lost cause to rabble rousing propaganda." 17 million roused rabbles blimey | |||
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"I hope nobodies going on holiday soon as you can't exchange currency at the moment "Ehhh .... | |||
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"Little Englanders have voted with their feet now they will become even smaller and more insignificant in the world without the backing of other parts of the now probable defunctUnited Kingdom. God bless England and all who sink with her. " Meh! Heard it all before, what abuse are you going to throw at the Welsh? None I bet! There is no need for such bitterness because of conflict centuries ago. It went to a Public vote and the decision is made wether we like it or not. That is called democracy. We all knew yesterday was coming for years, and you had your chance to get out and you didn't. Oh by the way that's called democracy too | |||
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