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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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Every year my kids primary school make a huge fuss of Mother's Day which is great, but come Father's Day it is totally ignored. My daughter asks every year why they don't make Father's Day cards and the schools excuse is that some kids don't have fathers. There are a few kids at the school who don't have mothers yet they still celebrate Mother's Day. Are fathers not worthy? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I was surprised that non of my daughters class came out with Fathers Day cards too..
Quite sad if its a policy, children adore their parents (most of the time) |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Every year my kids primary school make a huge fuss of Mother's Day which is great, but come Father's Day it is totally ignored. My daughter asks every year why they don't make Father's Day cards and the schools excuse is that some kids don't have fathers. There are a few kids at the school who don't have mothers yet they still celebrate Mother's Day. Are fathers not worthy?"
My kids dad isn't can't speak for anybody else
Seems a little odd though of course not all kids will have a dad but not all kids will have a mum either so it's just as insensitive for those kids as the ones with no dad |
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By *B9 QueenWoman
over a year ago
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The reason is because it's a religious observance traditionally.
This is from Wikipedia:
"Mothering Sunday is a holiday celebrated by Catholic and Protestant Christians in some parts of Europe. It falls on the fourth Sunday in Lent, exactly three weeks before Easter (For Orthodox Christians in Europe and elsewhere, the fourth Sunday in Lent."
It was always about believers returning to their 'mother' church.
Later people started to also honour their own mothers.
Eventually, the religious idea of mothering Sunday got lost.
Then some bright spark decided that since mother's day brought in so much revenue, why not have father's day?
Father's day is nothing to do with religion and since even state schools still generally observe Christian holidays as a left over from being a deeply Christian society, we still observe mothering sunday in schools. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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I sobbed one year at my boys school, they used to have a Mother's Day service at the church for the kids and mums, one little boy stood up and said 'my mummy is in heaven' after that and lots of parents crying later, they never had one again and never did anything again for mums, which I agree with as it's clear by that statement that not every child still had a mother for various reasons
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"The reason is because it's a religious observance traditionally.
This is from Wikipedia:
"Mothering Sunday is a holiday celebrated by Catholic and Protestant Christians in some parts of Europe. It falls on the fourth Sunday in Lent, exactly three weeks before Easter (For Orthodox Christians in Europe and elsewhere, the fourth Sunday in Lent."
It was always about believers returning to their 'mother' church.
Later people started to also honour their own mothers.
Eventually, the religious idea of mothering Sunday got lost.
Then some bright spark decided that since mother's day brought in so much revenue, why not have father's day?
Father's day is nothing to do with religion and since even state schools still generally observe Christian holidays as a left over from being a deeply Christian society, we still observe mothering sunday in schools. "
Well you learn something new every day. Thanks. |
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By *B9 QueenWoman
over a year ago
Over the rainbow, under the bridge |
"The reason is because it's a religious observance traditionally.
This is from Wikipedia:
"Mothering Sunday is a holiday celebrated by Catholic and Protestant Christians in some parts of Europe. It falls on the fourth Sunday in Lent, exactly three weeks before Easter (For Orthodox Christians in Europe and elsewhere, the fourth Sunday in Lent."
It was always about believers returning to their 'mother' church.
Later people started to also honour their own mothers.
Eventually, the religious idea of mothering Sunday got lost.
Then some bright spark decided that since mother's day brought in so much revenue, why not have father's day?
Father's day is nothing to do with religion and since even state schools still generally observe Christian holidays as a left over from being a deeply Christian society, we still observe mothering sunday in schools.
Well you learn something new every day. Thanks."
You're welcome. Unfortunately, I am now old enough to remember it being referred to as mothering sunday. |
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By *uzy444Woman
over a year ago
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"Every year my kids primary school make a huge fuss of Mother's Day which is great, but come Father's Day it is totally ignored. My daughter asks every year why they don't make Father's Day cards and the schools excuse is that some kids don't have fathers. There are a few kids at the school who don't have mothers yet they still celebrate Mother's Day. Are fathers not worthy?"
my youngests primary school did mothers and fathers day lunch this year. i nwent along for the mum bit and my eldest son went along for her fathers day lunch..my kids though, do me a card on fathers day and my dad.. my youngest and i have had the talk that all families are different and be thankful for who you have around you, now..things change, but doesnt mean to say you arent loved, just because they cant find a way to spend time physically with you, doesnt mean you arent thought about or part of them always |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"The reason is because it's a religious observance traditionally.
This is from Wikipedia:
"Mothering Sunday is a holiday celebrated by Catholic and Protestant Christians in some parts of Europe. It falls on the fourth Sunday in Lent, exactly three weeks before Easter (For Orthodox Christians in Europe and elsewhere, the fourth Sunday in Lent."
It was always about believers returning to their 'mother' church.
Later people started to also honour their own mothers.
Eventually, the religious idea of mothering Sunday got lost.
Then some bright spark decided that since mother's day brought in so much revenue, why not have father's day?
Father's day is nothing to do with religion and since even state schools still generally observe Christian holidays as a left over from being a deeply Christian society, we still observe mothering sunday in schools. "
Exactly...Father's Day is a recent, meaningless, commercial invention! |
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"I sobbed one year at my boys school, they used to have a Mother's Day service at the church for the kids and mums, one little boy stood up and said 'my mummy is in heaven' after that and lots of parents crying later, they never had one again and never did anything again for mums, which I agree with as it's clear by that statement that not every child still had a mother for various reasons
G x"
Life sucks!
But I think it unfair everyone should suffer because of one. Four of us went off on maternity leave. My son died so the others were banned from coming in with their babies. I felt awful for them and annoyed with my boss who took that decision on my behalf when I found out, but they didn't bring their babies in as they felt uncomfortable.
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Every year my kids primary school make a huge fuss of Mother's Day which is great, but come Father's Day it is totally ignored. My daughter asks every year why they don't make Father's Day cards and the schools excuse is that some kids don't have fathers. There are a few kids at the school who don't have mothers yet they still celebrate Mother's Day. Are fathers not worthy?"
My daughter's Saturday club made fathers day cards today, her father is dead, she made a "Happy Family Day" card. I thought it was a jolly good idea, it would work for mothers day as some kids don't have a mother XXX |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Every year my kids primary school make a huge fuss of Mother's Day which is great, but come Father's Day it is totally ignored. My daughter asks every year why they don't make Father's Day cards and the schools excuse is that some kids don't have fathers. There are a few kids at the school who don't have mothers yet they still celebrate Mother's Day. Are fathers not worthy?"
That's quite sad to hear they still do this.
When my kids were at primary they used to make me cards on Mother's Day.
I went to a Mother's Day service at the village church and all the mums went up to be given a little bunch of flowers. They all nudged me and got me to go up too.  |
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"I sobbed one year at my boys school, they used to have a Mother's Day service at the church for the kids and mums, one little boy stood up and said 'my mummy is in heaven' after that and lots of parents crying later, they never had one again and never did anything again for mums, which I agree with as it's clear by that statement that not every child still had a mother for various reasons
G x
Life sucks!
But I think it unfair everyone should suffer because of one. Four of us went off on maternity leave. My son died so the others were banned from coming in with their babies. I felt awful for them and annoyed with my boss who took that decision on my behalf when I found out, but they didn't bring their babies in as they felt uncomfortable.
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A close friend of mine lost her husband recently. She has four school age kids. I think not making a card on Mothers/Father's Day isn't suffering. Losing a parent when you're only a kid is suffering. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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Yeah that goes without saying, it must be an awful thing for a child to go through. My point is that mothers and fathers should be treated equally that's all, one isn't more important than the other. Now that the religious origin to Mother's Day has been hi-lighted it makes more sense as my kids go to a catholic school. |
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"The reason is because it's a religious observance traditionally.
This is from Wikipedia:
"Mothering Sunday is a holiday celebrated by Catholic and Protestant Christians in some parts of Europe. It falls on the fourth Sunday in Lent, exactly three weeks before Easter (For Orthodox Christians in Europe and elsewhere, the fourth Sunday in Lent."
It was always about believers returning to their 'mother' church.
Later people started to also honour their own mothers.
Eventually, the religious idea of mothering Sunday got lost.
Then some bright spark decided that since mother's day brought in so much revenue, why not have father's day?
Father's day is nothing to do with religion and since even state schools still generally observe Christian holidays as a left over from being a deeply Christian society, we still observe mothering sunday in schools. "
I had no idea of the origin, I assumed it was another Hallmark holiday.
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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago
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"golden rule....if its Christian IGNORE its pc britain"
What does that mean? Father's Day is a new commercially based celebration, as explained above.
That said, it's lovely and nicely PC (cos of the equality angle ) that fathers are being celebrated.
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By (user no longer on site)
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Don't really see my two beautiful kids that much due to what I do, but the ex wife is fantastic and let's me know how they are whenever she can get hold of me.
Came home on leave this weekend picked my kids up and plan to spend the hole weekend making them laugh & smile.
It's always moving to get cards and gifts for farthers day but to be honest it's me that feels honoured to have them in my life  |
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"golden rule....if its Christian IGNORE its pc britain
What does that mean? Father's Day is a new commercially based celebration, as explained above.
That said, it's lovely and nicely PC (cos of the equality angle ) that fathers are being celebrated.
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I wish you could explain that to my kids......it seems to pass them by.......a pint would do !
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By *B9 QueenWoman
over a year ago
Over the rainbow, under the bridge |
"golden rule....if its Christian IGNORE its pc britain
What does that mean? Father's Day is a new commercially based celebration, as explained above.
That said, it's lovely and nicely PC (cos of the equality angle ) that fathers are being celebrated.
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Next it'll be grandparent's day being a big thing.
After that, Aunt's day, followed by Uncle's day.
Eventually, every other day will be a Hallmark day and people will go into debt to keep up with paying for them.
Or is that some dystopian nightmare I had? |
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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago
Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound |
"golden rule....if its Christian IGNORE its pc britain
What does that mean? Father's Day is a new commercially based celebration, as explained above.
That said, it's lovely and nicely PC (cos of the equality angle ) that fathers are being celebrated.
Next it'll be grandparent's day being a big thing.
After that, Aunt's day, followed by Uncle's day.
Eventually, every other day will be a Hallmark day and people will go into debt to keep up with paying for them.
Or is that some dystopian nightmare I had?"
I think Grandparent's Day is September. I remember seeing cards last year.
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"golden rule....if its Christian IGNORE its pc britain
What does that mean? Father's Day is a new commercially based celebration, as explained above.
That said, it's lovely and nicely PC (cos of the equality angle ) that fathers are being celebrated.
Next it'll be grandparent's day being a big thing.
After that, Aunt's day, followed by Uncle's day.
Eventually, every other day will be a Hallmark day and people will go into debt to keep up with paying for them.
Or is that some dystopian nightmare I had?
I think Grandparent's Day is September. I remember seeing cards last year.
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Yep; they have started "grandparents' day" now.
Purely as a con by the card makers and purveyors of useless rubbish presents to make money.
It's rather daft, since grandparents are, by definition, already mothers and fathers, so are covered by the Mothers and Father's Days. |
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"Yeah that goes without saying, it must be an awful thing for a child to go through. My point is that mothers and fathers should be treated equally that's all, one isn't more important than the other. Now that the religious origin to Mother's Day has been hi-lighted it makes more sense as my kids go to a catholic school. "
It has no religious origin. It was a day off for female servants to go and see their mothers. |
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By *B9 QueenWoman
over a year ago
Over the rainbow, under the bridge |
"Yeah that goes without saying, it must be an awful thing for a child to go through. My point is that mothers and fathers should be treated equally that's all, one isn't more important than the other. Now that the religious origin to Mother's Day has been hi-lighted it makes more sense as my kids go to a catholic school.
It has no religious origin. It was a day off for female servants to go and see their mothers. "
Actually, mothers day does have a religious origin. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Every year my kids primary school make a huge fuss of Mother's Day which is great, but come Father's Day it is totally ignored. My daughter asks every year why they don't make Father's Day cards and the schools excuse is that some kids don't have fathers. There are a few kids at the school who don't have mothers yet they still celebrate Mother's Day. Are fathers not worthy?"
See what happened when a university tried to host an international mens day along with the international women's day... |
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By *B9 QueenWoman
over a year ago
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Mother's Day celebrations date back as far as the ancient Greeks where they would celebrate Rhea, the Mother of the Gods and Goddesses, every spring with festivals of worship. The Romans also celebrated a mother Goddess, Cybele, every March as far back as 250BC.
Mothering Sunday has been celebrated on the fourth Sunday in Lent, in the UK and Ireland, since the 16th century. The date varies in other parts of the world. Many countries follow the US and celebrate Mother's Day on the second Sunday in May, whilst other countries enjoy the day on March 8th which is International Women's Day.
HISTORY OF MOTHERING SUNDAY
Like many traditions and festivities, Mothering Sunday began with a religious purpose. Held on the fourth Sunday in Lent, exactly three weeks before Easter Sunday, it was a originally a day to honour and give thanks to the Virgin Mary, also known as Mother Mary. Such celebrations required people to visit their 'mother' church - the main church or cathedral in a family's area. The spread of Christianity throughout Europe in the 16th century increased the celebrations and firmly put Mothering Sunday on the calendar. It was believed to be essential for people to return to their home 'mother' church to make it a true family honoured occasion. The gatherings reunited families and gave children who worked as domestic servants, or as apprentices away from home (from as early as ten years old), the opportunity to have the day off to join their family and see their mother. |
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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago
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"Every year my kids primary school make a huge fuss of Mother's Day which is great, but come Father's Day it is totally ignored. My daughter asks every year why they don't make Father's Day cards and the schools excuse is that some kids don't have fathers. There are a few kids at the school who don't have mothers yet they still celebrate Mother's Day. Are fathers not worthy?
See what happened when a university tried to host an international mens day along with the international women's day... "
I've tried to celebrate International Men's Day here. No one wants to.
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