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over a year ago
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Is having no religion in fact being religiously not religious. Therefore having a belief in something which is contradictory to specific religions and therefore clearly having what is logically defined as a religion? ![](/icons/s/2/eh.gif) |
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over a year ago
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"I don't like people shoving religion down my throat.
I also don't like atheists shoving the fact they don't believe God exists down my throat either "
what about cock ![](/icons/s/biggrin.gif) |
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"I don't like people shoving religion down my throat.
I also don't like atheists shoving the fact they don't believe God exists down my throat either
what about cock "
You know, I read my post and knew some smart arse would mention cock ![](/icons/s/mrgreen.gif) |
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over a year ago
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You hear it said on here.... If somebody invented smoking or drinking today it would be banned because it's bad for society but because it's an established practise we tolerate it.... However we also tax them, alot, regulate it, forbid children from participating, shun them and morally tell them they shouldn't be doing it as it's bad for them!!
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I see no difference in doing the same with religion |
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Whether you believe in religion or not religion have influenced your daily life it would be wise therefore to understand it ...lots of people I see say they don't believe in any sort of religion yet when thetc get married it's in church in front of a pastor same thing when they die most of first laws and traditions came straight from the Bible how many of you don't celebrate Christmas? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Whether you believe in religion or not religion have influenced your daily life it would be wise therefore to understand it ...lots of people I see say they don't believe in any sort of religion yet when thetc get married it's in church in front of a pastor same thing when they die most of first laws and traditions came straight from the Bible how many of you don't celebrate Christmas? " .
Married in registry office, don't celebrate Christmas, won't be buried in a church or by a "man of God" |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Whether you believe in religion or not religion have influenced your daily life it would be wise therefore to understand it ...lots of people I see say they don't believe in any sort of religion yet when thetc get married it's in church in front of a pastor same thing when they die most of first laws and traditions came straight from the Bible how many of you don't celebrate Christmas? "
I celebrate over commercialised giving pointless plastic stuff to kids day? ![](/icons/s/mrgreen.gif) |
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"I don't like people shoving religion down my throat.
I also don't like atheists shoving the fact they don't believe God exists down my throat either "
Id also say the followers of the athiest religion are the biggest bores about it. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"The Devil don't have religion
He doesn't exist!
Yes he does he posts on the forums all the time
I think you will find "he" is a "she" "
The Demon is..... |
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I was listening to the Today Programme on the radio one time and they had a bishop giving a long-winded and worthy account of why we should take God into our hearts.
Then cut to Richard Dawkins who says:
"I don't see why we should listen to the bishop just because he has an imaginary friend!"
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By *artytwoCouple
over a year ago
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"I don't like people shoving religion down my throat.
I also don't like atheists shoving the fact they don't believe God exists down my throat either
Id also say the followers of the athiest religion are the biggest bores about it."
They can usually spell, are quite succinct and generally say bugger-all until the fundamentalists start their blather. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Is just two people arguing over who's imaginary friend is best.
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Religious people freak me a little but I probably freak them too.
I stopped believing a long time ago but I'm always up for being convinced there really is a God.
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Is having no religion in fact being religiously not religious. Therefore having a belief in something which is contradictory to specific religions and therefore clearly having what is logically defined as a religion? "
Like not having cancer is a disease? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Is having no religion in fact being religiously not religious. Therefore having a belief in something which is contradictory to specific religions and therefore clearly having what is logically defined as a religion? "
I thought you were supposed to have all the answers anyway? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Religion is more trouble than its worth."
This.....at a basic level a huge number of wars are down to this...possibly the majority? Maybe someone could research this....? I can't be arsed at the mo! |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Religion is more trouble than its worth.
This.....at a basic level a huge number of wars are down to this...possibly the majority? Maybe someone could research this....? I can't be arsed at the mo!"
I have researched this.
More people have died in non religious wars than religious ones. It's by some distance. |
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"Religion is more trouble than its worth.
This.....at a basic level a huge number of wars are down to this...possibly the majority? Maybe someone could research this....? I can't be arsed at the mo!"
So making this killing people over who has the best imaginary friend?! ![](/icons/s/twisted.gif) |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"The Devil don't have religion
He doesn't exist!
There ain't no devil, there's just God when he's d*unk.
Lol
Can't have one without the other"
Many religions don't have a "Devil". Its a Catholic invention i think. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Religion is more trouble than its worth.
This.....at a basic level a huge number of wars are down to this...possibly the majority? Maybe someone could research this....? I can't be arsed at the mo!
I have researched this.
More people have died in non religious wars than religious ones. It's by some distance. "
17 million people have been killed in religious wars.
Stalin killed between 40-60 million people.
Then you add on all the other wars and it's not even close. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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So here's the thing.....
I think you'd need pretty small minded to be adamantly resolute that considering all the diversity on our planet magnified by all the things in the known universe, magnified again by all the wonders yet to be discovered in and beyond our own universe, we couldn't possibly stumble upon the existence of something we can't prove with science .....
Which is why I'm good with not knowing...
But I envy people who find comfort in religion...
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Is just two people arguing over who's imaginary friend is best.
If there is a heaven and a God ,when I go there would ask him why he made me an atheist xxx "
If the Christian theory of God is true he didn't make you anything, you chose what to be yourself. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I don't like people shoving religion down my throat.
I also don't like atheists shoving the fact they don't believe God exists down my throat either
Id also say the followers of the athiest religion are the biggest bores about it.
They can usually spell, are quite succinct and generally say bugger-all until the fundamentalists start their blather."
This thread was started by someone who is not religious. So the fundamentalists were quiet until spoken to. |
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"You hear it said on here.... If somebody invented smoking or drinking today it would be banned because it's bad for society but because it's an established practise we tolerate it.... However we also tax them, alot, regulate it, forbid children from participating, shun them and morally tell them they shouldn't be doing it as it's bad for them!!
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I see no difference in doing the same with religion"
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By (user no longer on site)
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"The Devil don't have religion
He doesn't exist!
There ain't no devil, there's just God when he's d*unk.
Lol
I thought the devil was ed milliband"
you are yet to be proven wrong! |
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By *artytwoCouple
over a year ago
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"I don't like people shoving religion down my throat.
I also don't like atheists shoving the fact they don't believe God exists down my throat either
Id also say the followers of the athiest religion are the biggest bores about it.
They can usually spell, are quite succinct and generally say bugger-all until the fundamentalists start their blather.
This thread was started by someone who is not religious. So the fundamentalists were quiet until spoken to. "
That's a first then. |
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"I don't like people shoving religion down my throat.
I also don't like atheists shoving the fact they don't believe God exists down my throat either
what about cock
You know, I read my post and knew some smart arse would mention cock "
So was that a yes to cock? Mine is ready for you. ![](/icons/s/wink.gif) |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then He is not omnipotent.
Is He able, but not willing? Then He is malevolent.
Is He both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil?
Is He neither able nor willing? Then why call Him God?"
Epicurus (c. 341 - c. 270 BC) |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I don't like people shoving religion down my throat.
I also don't like atheists shoving the fact they don't believe God exists down my throat either
Id also say the followers of the athiest religion are the biggest bores about it.
They can usually spell, are quite succinct and generally say bugger-all until the fundamentalists start their blather.
This thread was started by someone who is not religious. So the fundamentalists were quiet until spoken to.
That's a first then."
Not on this site it ain't. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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So this God chap supposedly created the earth and everything on it in a week?...very impressive.
For me, all I need is for God to prove he exists, which should be comparatively easy. A simple gowned arm coming out of the clouds giving a thumbs up would be enough to convince me. I'd be straight down to the nearest church and start praying like a good un.
So come on God, gissa thumbs up...
(Looks to the sky)
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Whether you believe in religion or not religion have influenced your daily life it would be wise therefore to understand it ...lots of people I see say they don't believe in any sort of religion yet when thetc get married it's in church in front of a pastor same thing when they die most of first laws and traditions came straight from the Bible how many of you don't celebrate Christmas? "
Yes and they turn up to church just to listen to the banns being read or dare I say to get their children into a good faith school. Humans do what suits them best sometimes and faith can be fickle with it.
I understand why religion brings comfort to some people.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Id also say the followers of the athiest religion are the biggest bores about it.
At the risk of being a bore; Atheism is not a belief system nor is it a religion."
It's more like a cult then ? |
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"So this God chap supposedly created the earth and everything on it in a week?...very impressive.
For me, all I need is for God to prove he exists, which should be comparatively easy. A simple gowned arm coming out of the clouds giving a thumbs up would be enough to convince me. I'd be straight down to the nearest church and start praying like a good un.
So come on God, gissa thumbs up...
(Looks to the sky)
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"So this God chap supposedly created the earth and everything on it in a week?...very impressive.
For me, all I need is for God to prove he exists, which should be comparatively easy. A simple gowned arm coming out of the clouds giving a thumbs up would be enough to convince me. I'd be straight down to the nearest church and start praying like a good un.
So come on God, gissa thumbs up...
(Looks to the sky)
For the best result I recommend some quality shrooms available from your local dealer "
So far he has sent 5 aeroplanes and a seagull... starting to get a stiff neck now |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Is having no religion in fact being religiously not religious. Therefore having a belief in something which is contradictory to specific religions and therefore clearly having what is logically defined as a religion?
Like not having cancer is a disease? "
Well no. A disease is a disorder of structure or function in an organic being, whereas a religion is fundamentally a belief. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Religion is more trouble than its worth.
This.....at a basic level a huge number of wars are down to this...possibly the majority? Maybe someone could research this....? I can't be arsed at the mo!
I have researched this.
More people have died in non religious wars than religious ones. It's by some distance.
17 million people have been killed in religious wars.
Stalin killed between 40-60 million people.
Then you add on all the other wars and it's not even close. " .
If we take that 17 million as a given I think it's higher but we'll just say that's correct....
Let's just say that again 17 million people slaughtered over who's God was best!.... I mean I could except that for something like food, land, resources, water, politics, borders it's not great but at least it was a fight over something tangible ![](/icons/s/eek.gif) |
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"So this God chap supposedly created the earth and everything on it in a week?...very impressive.
For me, all I need is for God to prove he exists, which should be comparatively easy. A simple gowned arm coming out of the clouds giving a thumbs up would be enough to convince me. I'd be straight down to the nearest church and start praying like a good un.
So come on God, gissa thumbs up...
(Looks to the sky)
For the best result I recommend some quality shrooms available from your local dealer
So far he has sent 5 aeroplanes and a seagull... starting to get a stiff neck now"
Get on the shrooms man. You will see much more ![](/icons/s/mrgreen.gif) |
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"I don't like people shoving religion down my throat.
I also don't like atheists shoving the fact they don't believe God exists down my throat either
Id also say the followers of the athiest religion are the biggest bores about it.
They can usually spell, are quite succinct and generally say bugger-all until the fundamentalists start their blather.
This thread was started by someone who is not religious. So the fundamentalists were quiet until spoken to. "
That's a big assumption. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Is having no religion in fact being religiously not religious. Therefore having a belief in something which is contradictory to specific religions and therefore clearly having what is logically defined as a religion?
I thought you were supposed to have all the answers anyway?"
Almost apart from the female mindset which still befuddles me. |
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"Religion is more trouble than its worth.
This.....at a basic level a huge number of wars are down to this...possibly the majority? Maybe someone could research this....? I can't be arsed at the mo!
I have researched this.
More people have died in non religious wars than religious ones. It's by some distance.
17 million people have been killed in religious wars.
Stalin killed between 40-60 million people.
Then you add on all the other wars and it's not even close. .
If we take that 17 million as a given I think it's higher but we'll just say that's correct....
Let's just say that again 17 million people slaughtered over who's God was best!.... I mean I could except that for something like food, land, resources, water, politics, borders it's not great but at least it was a fight over something tangible "
Yes , but that didn't answer the question. The poster asked if the majority of wars were over religious not if they were justified. |
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"I don't like people shoving religion down my throat.
I also don't like atheists shoving the fact they don't believe God exists down my throat either
Id also say the followers of the athiest religion are the biggest bores about it.
They can usually spell, are quite succinct and generally say bugger-all until the fundamentalists start their blather.
This thread was started by someone who is not religious. So the fundamentalists were quiet until spoken to.
That's a big assumption."
Oh I'm sorry, given the contents of your OP I just assumed you were not reigious. |
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"Here's the thing......
We just don't know,,, " . That's right we don't know.
However let's look at what we do know or have discovered since not knowing.
The earth is round.
It's not the centre of the universe.
It didn't take a week to make.
All life evolved.
God didn't throw a blanket over the earth, it just turned 180 degrees.
Volcanoes aren't gods getting angry.
Neither are earthquakes or plagues of locusts.
A pox on you!... No longer means your cursed.
Dinosaurs?? Lived on earth for 350 million years before us!... You'd think that might have been worth mentioning in the good book.
And last but not least, belief is good but it don't beat antibiotics for clearing up a bit of pneumonia!
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By *artytwoCouple
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"I don't like people shoving religion down my throat.
I also don't like atheists shoving the fact they don't believe God exists down my throat either
Id also say the followers of the athiest religion are the biggest bores about it.
They can usually spell, are quite succinct and generally say bugger-all until the fundamentalists start their blather.
This thread was started by someone who is not religious. So the fundamentalists were quiet until spoken to.
That's a first then.
Not on this site it ain't. "
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"Here's the thing......
We just don't know,,, . That's right we don't know.
However let's look at what we do know or have discovered since not knowing.
The earth is round.
It's not the centre of the universe.
It didn't take a week to make.
All life evolved.
God didn't throw a blanket over the earth, it just turned 180 degrees.
Volcanoes aren't gods getting angry.
Neither are earthquakes or plagues of locusts.
A pox on you!... No longer means your cursed.
Dinosaurs?? Lived on earth for 350 million years before us!... You'd think that might have been worth mentioning in the good book.
And last but not least, belief is good but it don't beat antibiotics for clearing up a bit of pneumonia!
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Yeah but lets face it on a scale measured against the vastness of all creation that list is quite paltry
I mean if you are not willing to conceive there are still things yet to be discovered and that some of those things might have origins beyond our present understanding you'd be basically admitting we've reached the limit of our potential.....
PS
I wasn't aware God wrote the Bible or indeed an religious publication to which mankind refers other than perhaps the Ten commandments...
But on that matter I could be wrong, as he's not yet admitted anything of that nature to me as an individual..
But that's not to say he won't do one day..... ![](/icons/s/mrgreen.gif) |
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"I don't like people shoving religion down my throat.
I also don't like atheists shoving the fact they don't believe God exists down my throat either
Id also say the followers of the athiest religion are the biggest bores about it.
They can usually spell, are quite succinct and generally say bugger-all until the fundamentalists start their blather.
This thread was started by someone who is not religious. So the fundamentalists were quiet until spoken to.
That's a first then.
Not on this site it ain't.
'Tis, ner ner"
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Here's the thing......
We just don't know,,, . That's right we don't know.
However let's look at what we do know or have discovered since not knowing.
The earth is round.
It's not the centre of the universe.
It didn't take a week to make.
All life evolved.
God didn't throw a blanket over the earth, it just turned 180 degrees.
Volcanoes aren't gods getting angry.
Neither are earthquakes or plagues of locusts.
A pox on you!... No longer means your cursed.
Dinosaurs?? Lived on earth for 350 million years before us!... You'd think that might have been worth mentioning in the good book.
And last but not least, belief is good but it don't beat antibiotics for clearing up a bit of pneumonia!
Yeah but lets face it on a scale measured against the vastness of all creation that list is quite paltry
I mean if you are not willing to conceive there are still things yet to be discovered and that some of those things might have origins beyond our present understanding you'd be basically admitting we've reached the limit of our potential.....
PS
I wasn't aware God wrote the Bible or indeed an religious publication to which mankind refers other than perhaps the Ten commandments...
But on that matter I could be wrong, as he's not yet admitted anything of that nature to me as an individual..
But that's not to say he won't do one day..... " .
The Qur'an was wrote by Mohammed who directly was spoken to by Allah.
The ten commandants were directly given to Moses by God.. I particularly find the jealous God one quite laughable, what sort of a supreme being gets jealous?.
No thanks it's not for me, it's mumbo jumbo bullshit of the highest order, just like emails from Nigeria telling me I've won the Nigerian lottery |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"I don't like people shoving religion down my throat.
I also don't like atheists shoving the fact they don't believe God exists down my throat either
Id also say the followers of the athiest religion are the biggest bores about it.
They can usually spell, are quite succinct and generally say bugger-all until the fundamentalists start their blather.
This thread was started by someone who is not religious. So the fundamentalists were quiet until spoken to.
That's a big assumption.
Oh I'm sorry, given the contents of your OP I just assumed you were not reigious. "
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Just believe what you want and let others believe what they want it makes the the world a happier place - no need to argue about it you wont change someones beliefs ![](/icons/s/wink.gif) |
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No thanks it's not for me, it's mumbo jumbo bullshit of the highest order, just like emails from Nigeria telling me I've won the Nigerian lottery"
The lord will forgive you...
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"Is just two people arguing over who's imaginary friend is best.
Worse, it's people claiming that the imaginary friend likes them more than the other person. "
Like the Germans and the British in WW2 - bogged down in trenches in France - both praying to the same god for help in destroying the other side so they could win the war?
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"Is having no religion in fact being religiously not religious. Therefore having a belief in something which is contradictory to specific religions and therefore clearly having what is logically defined as a religion?
I thought you were supposed to have all the answers anyway?
Almost apart from the female mindset which still befuddles me."
Even Jesus can't figure out the women!
Confirmed, the functioning and content of the female mind is among the greatest mysteries ever known to man! ![](/icons/s/2/halo.gif) |
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