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"iconic that's really nice of you to say those things thank you I do feel that my opinions don't count when there are issues talked about by certain people, or that my views get pounced on by other members.. however i thought that it what gives these forums we all use another edge and dimension. Everyone is entitled to opinions and we are all free to express them. Makes for a better read. " 23 going on 63 that one lol Nice ta see xx | |||
"23 going on 63 that one lol Nice ta see xx " OI be nice to me! | |||
"23 going on 63 that one lol Nice ta see xx OI be nice to me!" I was lol xx | |||
" I do feel that my opinions don't count when there are issues talked about by certain people, or that my views get pounced on by other members.. " Unless these people are replying "what do you know, you are too young to even have an opinion"... what is it which makes you feel they think your opinions count for nothing? Often it is our own inner thoughts which make us feel such things. If your opinions get pounced upon (or replied to is another way of looking at it) doesn't that indicate they do think your opinion counts, but just have a different one? | |||
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" I do feel that my opinions don't count when there are issues talked about by certain people, or that my views get pounced on by other members.. Unless these people are replying "what do you know, you are too young to even have an opinion"... what is it which makes you feel they think your opinions count for nothing? Often it is our own inner thoughts which make us feel such things. If your opinions get pounced upon (or replied to is another way of looking at it) doesn't that indicate they do think your opinion counts, but just have a different one? " Ok perhaps my phrasing was wrong again, i just feel that some people wont diversify from their own thoughts to possibly begin to comprehend where my POV comes from.. i can sit back and think 'yeah i see where they are coming from' and my original thoughts become swayed but others are very set in their ways. | |||
"soapy your still 18 arent ya mate lol " Oi i aint that old upstairs pmsl xx | |||
"soapy your still 18 arent ya mate lol Oi i aint that old upstairs pmsl xx " ha ha you got a good point lol | |||
" I do feel that my opinions don't count when there are issues talked about by certain people, or that my views get pounced on by other members.. Unless these people are replying "what do you know, you are too young to even have an opinion"... what is it which makes you feel they think your opinions count for nothing? Often it is our own inner thoughts which make us feel such things. If your opinions get pounced upon (or replied to is another way of looking at it) doesn't that indicate they do think your opinion counts, but just have a different one? Ok perhaps my phrasing was wrong again, i just feel that some people wont diversify from their own thoughts to possibly begin to comprehend where my POV comes from.. i can sit back and think 'yeah i see where they are coming from' and my original thoughts become swayed but others are very set in their ways. " We can't always tell what other people 'think' when they read someone else's opinions... you may be getting more pauses for thought than you imagine... a few nods... it doesn't mean people will always change their mind, they may just add what you say to their thoughts as another exception to their generalised summary. Or their belief built through actual experiences will stay steadfast regardless of what anyone of any age says, because they believe it 100%. If you went to a hardressers and they fucked up your hair would you change your opinion about the person who hacked your hair off against your wishes just because someone else said "oh god they are amazing"... regardless of how old the person saying it was? | |||
" We can't always tell what other people 'think' when they read someone else's opinions... you may be getting more pauses for thought than you imagine... a few nods... it doesn't mean people will always change their mind, they may just add what you say to their thoughts as another exception to their generalised summary. Or their belief built through actual experiences will stay steadfast regardless of what anyone of any age says, because they believe it 100%. If you went to a hardressers and they fucked up your hair would you change your opinion about the person who hacked your hair off against your wishes just because someone else said "oh god they are amazing"... regardless of how old the person saying it was?" Oh im not a pushover and i do have a backbone, course im not always going to change my opinion based on someone else's argument for a case.. Using your hairdresser comparison thought, i could initially think 'you fucking pleb' but then get used to the new style and realise perhaps i was wrong about my initial thoughts and that it was better than i originally thought. | |||
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"*waves stick* Will you youngsters speak up, I can't hear you when you mumble like that!! " Christ if you are old i must be dead xx | |||
" Using your hairdresser comparison thought, i could initially think 'you fucking pleb' but then get used to the new style and realise perhaps i was wrong about my initial thoughts and that it was better than i originally thought." Indeed. It all depends on how strong our beliefs are and our experiences which we base them on. Some people will say the hairdresser is shit as a knee-jerk reaction because they imagined their new hair cut would be something it could never be... but then warm to it. Some will say it is fine, but really hate it and just not wish to go against popular opinion. Some will fucking hate it and think the hairdresser is a twat because it actually is a bad cut, the hairdresser nicked their neck 3 times and they burnt their head with the curling tongues. | |||
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"Where is this hairdresser??? I think it's name and shame time so we can all avoid it. Not that I will be swayed by the naming and shaming." I thought you'd already been there... at least it looks like you have. | |||
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"Where is this hairdresser??? I think it's name and shame time so we can all avoid it. Not that I will be swayed by the naming and shaming. I thought you'd already been there... at least it looks like you have." Aaaah humour! Interesting. Now where did I put my fucking Polo thread. | |||
" Now where did I put my fucking Polo thread." Is it under your pillow with the Myra Hindley photo? | |||
" Now where did I put my fucking Polo thread. Is it under your pillow with the Myra Hindley photo?" Myra Hindley is hot but I prefer her looky-likey | |||
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"maturity isnt in direct corolation to your age . its very much down to the indervidual .there are meny younger members with very mature out looks and views . there are also older members who child like tantrums and dummy spitting are as far from mature as you could get lol! exsperince as well is also indervidual .there are people much younger from me who have been more places ,have more varied jobs,tired more of their sexual fantasys than i have . so i think i has to be looked at on a person to person basis not on how meny birthdays youve happen to have " yeah i agree with that | |||
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"By the time i was 23 i had run away from home, lived on the streets, been on drugs had a miscarriage and spent four years in an extremely violent relationship. I think i had quite abit of experience about life for a 23 year old, what it did teach me was to think, as you get older you think before you act and hopefully as you get older can sit back and say that you had learned from your mistakes or pat yourself on the back for having done a good job with your life. Nothing can beat the experience that age brings" well said that lady iam i making the same mistakes i made 15 years im starting to wonder the light blub has just come on we must remember our past experiences | |||
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" I do feel that my opinions don't count when there are issues talked about by certain people, or that my views get pounced on by other members.. Unless these people are replying "what do you know, you are too young to even have an opinion"... what is it which makes you feel they think your opinions count for nothing? Often it is our own inner thoughts which make us feel such things. If your opinions get pounced upon (or replied to is another way of looking at it) doesn't that indicate they do think your opinion counts, but just have a different one? Ok perhaps my phrasing was wrong again, i just feel that some people wont diversify from their own thoughts to possibly begin to comprehend where my POV comes from.. i can sit back and think 'yeah i see where they are coming from' and my original thoughts become swayed but others are very set in their ways. " i agree, i think mine are set in my way and find it difficult to sway my thoughts though i do sometimes go away and think about a comment made, and kind of changing my point of view on meeting someone in your age group just takes time getting over the yuk factor Once got told to get out of my box, downside is some fekkers sellotaped me in......HELP | |||
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"i think the concept of 'acting your age' is what is flawed...there is no way to define the actions of any age. the reality is that you act in accordance with your experiences and temper that with either how you want to be or how you want to be perceived " A very good point | |||
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"I think it's all relative. We as a couple have always been quite mature. Bought and renovated our first home at 21, had our son, moved, started a business and all that jazz but we're only 27." Now you see, I don't really think that what you describe above is necessesarily maturity! In fact starting a business requires confidence in what you are doing and foolhardyness to believe you won't fail! Having a child too early when you meant to wait is a mistake and is not mature! That is a common mistake by many an immature school kid!.. You may well be mature, but not just because of what you have done! "Having our son so early probably matured us a bit quicker but we were always planning on doing things early anyway, maybe just not that early!" It would definately have made you grow up a bit quicker, but we know many young couples who have kids and they have no maturity at all! "I don't think anyones age gives anyone the right to think they are more knowledgeable or experienced" (Knowledge and experience is not the same as maturity!) " in any area than someone though. I hav friends that are 8 years young than me and have seen more of the world than I have. My own sisters are 11 and 12 years older than me yet we're on a level playing field now, all in the same stage of our life (young families, work etc) so the age difference is insignificant." Again, just because you do the same as older people are doing in your life, doesn't equal maturity! "My sister has a partner who is older again and socialising as a group is difficult. He automatically discounts our opinions becuase we're 'young and daft' despite having done more 'grown up' things than he has. He seems to think the fact he's 15 years older than us means he's better and that's not right. His actual experiences are very limited, he lives in a house he inheritied of his gran, has worked in the same trade with the same firm since he was boy, hasn't travelled, has no kids, no marriage or anything really but that is all discounted - to him the fact he's older means he's right all the time!" He may not be very mature in your eyes, but travelling and buying a house and changing your job do not make you mature! Just because he has inherited the house he lives in, having a trade he obviously enjoys and is good at and not being married, may be maturity in his choices. As a poster typed above, she thought she was mature when young, but after reading letters that she wrote, she realised that she wasn't. It could be that you think you are mature but in reality you're not! Just so you know, we started our first business when we were 20 and bought our first house! Didn't have kids till I was 30, but was well travelled by that time. Guess what? I am still immature! I am still just a big kid at heart! I still like to do stupid things. Really don't understand why people see immaturity as a deficit in lifes bank balance! Always been a positive for me. Brought me some real big surprises in my life and I aint gonna change now! | |||
"To the OP i totally agree as you get older you learn everything is not black and white there are areas of grey ,and as can be seen by the letter i posdt below from a 98 yr old woman you learn to defend yourself in different ways ..lol A 98 year old woman in the UK wrote this to her bank. The bank manager thought it amusing enough to have it published in the Times. Dear Sir, I am writing to thank you for bouncing my cheque with which I endeavoured to pay my plumber last month. By my calculations, three nanoseconds must have elapsed between his presenting the cheque and the arrival in my account of the funds needed to honour it. I refer, of course, to the automatic monthly deposit of my Pension, an arrangement, which, I admit, has been in place for only thirty eight years. You are to be commended for seizing that brief window of opportunity, and also for debiting my account £30 by way of penalty for the inconvenience caused to your bank. My thankfulness springs from the manner in which this incident has caused me to rethink my errant financial ways. I noticed that whereas I personally attend to your telephone calls and letters, but when I try to contact you, I am confronted by the impersonal, overcharging, pre-recorded, faceless entity which your bank has become. From now on, I, like you, choose only to deal with a flesh-and-blood person. My mortgage and loan payments will therefore and hereafter no longer be automatic, but will arrive at your bank by cheque, addressed personally and confidentially to an employee at your bank whom you must nominate. Be aware that it is an offence under the Postal Act for any other person to open such an envelope. Please find attached an Application Contact Status which I require your chosen employee to complete. I am sorry it runs to eight pages, but in order that I know as much about him or her as your bank knows about me, there is no alternative. Please note that all copies of his or her medical history must be countersigned by a Solicitor, and the mandatory details of his/her financial situation (income, debts, assets and liabilities) must be accompanied by documented proof. In due course, I will issue your employee with PIN number which he/she must quote in dealings with me. I regret that it cannot be shorter than 28 digits but, again, I have modelled it on the number of button presses required of me to access my account balance on your phone bank service. As they say, imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. Let me level the playing field even further. When you call me, press buttons as follows: 1. To make an appointment to see me. 2. To query a missing payment. 3. To transfer the call to my living room in case I am there. 4. To transfer the call to my bedroom in case I am sleeping. 5. To transfer the call to my toilet in case I am attending to nature. 6. To transfer the call to my mobile phone if I am not at home. 7. To leave a message on my computer (a password to access my computer is required. A password will be communicated to you at a later date to the Authorized Contact.) 8. To return to the main menu and to listen to options 1 through to 8. 9. To make a general complaint or inquiry, the contact will then be put on hold, pending the attention of my automated answering service. While this may, on occasion, involve a lengthy wait, uplifting music will play for the duration of the call. Regrettably, but again following your example, I must also levy an establishment fee to cover the setting up of this new arrangement. May I wish you a happy, if ever so slightly less prosperous, New Year. Your Humble Client " This is brilliant You go girl | |||
" Really don't understand why people see immaturity as a deficit in lifes bank balance! Always been a positive for me. Brought me some real big surprises in my life and I aint gonna change now! " being mature is about not being afraid to be immature. | |||
"Firstly, this is not an attack on the poster whose prose appears in my post, but a different way of looking at what they typed! I think it's all relative. We as a couple have always been quite mature. Bought and renovated our first home at 21, had our son, moved, started a business and all that jazz but we're only 27. Now you see, I don't really think that what you describe above is necessesarily maturity! In fact starting a business requires confidence in what you are doing and foolhardyness to believe you won't fail! Having a child too early when you meant to wait is a mistake and is not mature! That is a common mistake by many an immature school kid!.. You may well be mature, but not just because of what you have done! Having our son so early probably matured us a bit quicker but we were always planning on doing things early anyway, maybe just not that early! It would definately have made you grow up a bit quicker, but we know many young couples who have kids and they have no maturity at all! I don't think anyones age gives anyone the right to think they are more knowledgeable or experienced(Knowledge and experience is not the same as maturity!) in any area than someone though. I hav friends that are 8 years young than me and have seen more of the world than I have. My own sisters are 11 and 12 years older than me yet we're on a level playing field now, all in the same stage of our life (young families, work etc) so the age difference is insignificant.Again, just because you do the same as older people are doing in your life, doesn't equal maturity! My sister has a partner who is older again and socialising as a group is difficult. He automatically discounts our opinions becuase we're 'young and daft' despite having done more 'grown up' things than he has. He seems to think the fact he's 15 years older than us means he's better and that's not right. His actual experiences are very limited, he lives in a house he inheritied of his gran, has worked in the same trade with the same firm since he was boy, hasn't travelled, has no kids, no marriage or anything really but that is all discounted - to him the fact he's older means he's right all the time! He may not be very mature in your eyes, but travelling and buying a house and changing your job do not make you mature! Just because he has inherited the house he lives in, having a trade he obviously enjoys and is good at and not being married, may be maturity in his choices. As a poster typed above, she thought she was mature when young, but after reading letters that she wrote, she realised that she wasn't. It could be that you think you are mature but in reality you're not! Just so you know, we started our first business when we were 20 and bought our first house! Didn't have kids till I was 30, but was well travelled by that time. Guess what? I am still immature! I am still just a big kid at heart! I still like to do stupid things. Really don't understand why people see immaturity as a deficit in lifes bank balance! Always been a positive for me. Brought me some real big surprises in my life and I aint gonna change now! " Not an attack... but you go on to rip everything I've said to shreds! Backs up what I first said though, it's all relative. | |||