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By *andy57 OP   TV/TS  over a year ago

york

Why is it that Europe are selecting the UK as scapegoats

With the fans causing trouble

When the Russians are organized gangs of professional trouble causers and not footy fans

FFS how the hell has Russia got into the competition in the first place

How long has Russia been in Europe !!!!!!

Personally I could not give a toss about the football but I do about professional thugs intent on trying to get countries sent home maybe the tactics are get everyone band and you might stand a chance of winning.

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By *entaur_UKMan  over a year ago

Cannock


"Why is it that Europe are selecting the UK as scapegoats

With the fans causing trouble

When the Russians are organized gangs of professional trouble causers and not footy fans

FFS how the hell has Russia got into the competition in the first place

How long has Russia been in Europe !!!!!!

Personally I could not give a toss about the football but I do about professional thugs intent on trying to get countries sent home maybe the tactics are get everyone band and you might stand a chance of winning.

"

Unfortunately England has a history of football hooliganism so maybe that's why the Russians seem intent on targeting England fans?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Easy target - any England fans breaking the law should be dealt with appropriately. I'm not denying that at all and we do have a minority of twats for sure.

But zero Russians arrested in Marseille? Absolute joke.

One English kiddie jailed for 2 months for throwing a plastic bottle. Armed organised tooled up and balaclavaed up Russian gangs (celebrated by their own officials!) Nothing.

German, French, N Irish, Polish and Ukrainian fans fighting - yet not threatened with expulsion.

Sadly the English reputation from the 80s sticks with us and it's easier to scapegoat. Of course d*unken behaviour helps to reinforce those stereotypes and at times the English fans don't help themselves.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

As per previous; a bad reputation takes decades to shake off and sadly Rent A Mob always seem to surface and dominate the media spotlight.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

The French are scared of the Russians that's why! As was said since when were they in Europe ?

They have always been against the west, I could not give a toss about football myself but you have to ask what's the point in even going if someone is going to just spoil you're day!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"The French are scared of the Russians that's why! As was said since when were they in Europe ?

They have always been against the west, I could not give a toss about football myself but you have to ask what's the point in even going if someone is going to just spoil you're day!"

On the whole, most fans are having a great time (well that's what my Twitter feed would suggest) with a small minority in the flashpoint areas. The Russians storming the stands inside the stadium (how could there be no arrests there!?!) excepted if you're sensible you can avoid trouble and have a great time.

Why let the thugs ruin the fun?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Brexit

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Seems as though the Russians have looked up to the uk thugs of the 80s and seen them as something to be admired, and now bettered.

Very little condemnation from the Russian authorities. Doesn't bode well for the World Cup in Russi in two years time.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

UK thugs,,,?

Cant remember the tartan army being involved in any hooliganism home or abroad.

England,,yes.

I do find it very strange however that no Russians have been punnished

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"UK thugs,,,?

Cant remember the tartan army being involved in any hooliganism home or abroad.

England,,yes.

I do find it very strange however that no Russians have been punnished"

You search google my friend you'll find it, search Scottish FA cup final this year

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By *oncupiscentTonyMan  over a year ago

Kent


"UK thugs,,,?

Cant remember the tartan army being involved in any hooliganism home or abroad.

"

Wembley '77

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"UK thugs,,,?

Cant remember the tartan army being involved in any hooliganism home or abroad.

England,,yes.

I do find it very strange however that no Russians have been punnished

You search google my friend you'll find it, search Scottish FA cup final this year"

that was not the tartan army

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"UK thugs,,,?

Cant remember the tartan army being involved in any hooliganism home or abroad.

Wembley '77"

lol,,invading a pitch n digging up a pitch bloody years ago,,no I mean hooliganism

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By *olgateMan  over a year ago

on the road to nowhere in particular

There has been fighting in France for months which for some mysterious reason hasn't been covered by the media in the run up to the referendum. There has been plenty of fighting at the Euros with various different countries being involved. Unfortunately the light hearted banter between the fans tends to get overlooked for bigger headlines.

England fans with their reputation will always be targeted by others trying to prove themselves.

If anyone isn't sure about the Russians, there is plenty of footage on you tube of Russians meeting up and attacking each other with Military precision before dispersing.

And Mikki,

The main reason the home internationals were cancelled was because of the violence inflicted on innocent transport staff when matches were played at Wembley

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"There has been fighting in France for months which for some mysterious reason hasn't been covered by the media in the run up to the referendum. There has been plenty of fighting at the Euros with various different countries being involved. Unfortunately the light hearted banter between the fans tends to get overlooked for bigger headlines.

England fans with their reputation will always be targeted by others trying to prove themselves.

If anyone isn't sure about the Russians, there is plenty of footage on you tube of Russians meeting up and attacking each other with Military precision before dispersing.

And Mikki,

The main reason the home internationals were cancelled was because of the violence inflicted on innocent transport staff when matches were played at Wembley "

years ago,decades, ancient history.

It is NOT uk fans that cause trouble its England fans.

the whole world knows it.

I do feel sorry for the majority of England fans though.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"There has been fighting in France for months which for some mysterious reason hasn't been covered by the media in the run up to the referendum. There has been plenty of fighting at the Euros with various different countries being involved. Unfortunately the light hearted banter between the fans tends to get overlooked for bigger headlines.

England fans with their reputation will always be targeted by others trying to prove themselves.

If anyone isn't sure about the Russians, there is plenty of footage on you tube of Russians meeting up and attacking each other with Military precision before dispersing.

And Mikki,

The main reason the home internationals were cancelled was because of the violence inflicted on innocent transport staff when matches were played at Wembley

years ago,decades, ancient history.

It is NOT uk fans that cause trouble its England fans.

the whole world knows it.

I do feel sorry for the majority of England fans though."

The Scottish police seem to believe hooliganism is on the rise.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/35544730

Im not a football fan. I really don't care, but last time I looked the Scotland was part of the U.K.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

lol,,please don't argue,,but its ENGLAND fans fighting this week,,not Scots Irish or Welsh.

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By *abioMan  over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

actually remember the russians are the only one that have actually been charged with anything so far.... and that is for what happened in the stadium

the french police has now admitted it was russians that provoked a lot of the trouble... from people i know who were there they said the russians didn't pick on the huge groups of fans in the pubs but just pick out the random groups of fans going round in 3's and 4's....

plus from what is going round on the vine, marseille and PSG ultra's were also going at it under the cover of the english and russians.....

i know a lot of english and welsh fans are worried about what may well end up happening in lille tomorrow....

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"lol,,please don't argue,,but its ENGLAND fans fighting this week,,not Scots Irish or Welsh."

You're right! Not worth arguing.

It's why I prefer rugby and cricket. Everyone gets d*unk, sings a lot and spends their time making a beer snake out of empty plastic glasses!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"actually remember the russians are the only one that have actually been charged with anything so far.... and that is for what happened in the stadium

the french police has now admitted it was russians that provoked a lot of the trouble... from people i know who were there they said the russians didn't pick on the huge groups of fans in the pubs but just pick out the random groups of fans going round in 3's and 4's....

plus from what is going round on the vine, marseille and PSG ultra's were also going at it under the cover of the english and russians.....

i know a lot of english and welsh fans are worried about what may well end up happening in lille tomorrow.... "

Some English fans were jailed for 2-3 months yesterday Fabio. No Russians have been arrested. Quite remarkable that given the scenes inside the stadium.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"actually remember the russians are the only one that have actually been charged with anything so far.... and that is for what happened in the stadium

the french police has now admitted it was russians that provoked a lot of the trouble... from people i know who were there they said the russians didn't pick on the huge groups of fans in the pubs but just pick out the random groups of fans going round in 3's and 4's....

plus from what is going round on the vine, marseille and PSG ultra's were also going at it under the cover of the english and russians.....

i know a lot of english and welsh fans are worried about what may well end up happening in lille tomorrow....

Some English fans were jailed for 2-3 months yesterday Fabio. No Russians have been arrested. Quite remarkable that given the scenes inside the stadium. "

Its DISGUSTING that no Russians have been arrested,,,why?????

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By *ugby 123Couple  over a year ago
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O o O oo

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/who-ultras-evil-russian-football-8184339

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By *ugby 123Couple  over a year ago
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O o O oo


"UK thugs,,,?

Cant remember the tartan army being involved in any hooliganism home or abroad.

Wembley '77

lol,,invading a pitch n digging up a pitch bloody years ago,,no I mean hooliganism"

Manchester 2008

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By *andy57 OP   TV/TS  over a year ago

york

What does not help is the bloody media hyping and sensationalising it all to try and get more attention!!!!

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By *ugby 123Couple  over a year ago
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O o O oo

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/35544730

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By *illwill69uMan  over a year ago

moston


"FFS how the hell has Russia got into the competition in the first place

How long has Russia been in Europe !!!!!"

Since always.

Europe extends as far as the Ural (there is even a hint in that name) mountains to the East.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"lol,,please don't argue,,but its ENGLAND fans fighting this week,,not Scots Irish or Welsh."

Didn't the northern Irish have some problems? There certainly wouldn't be no Scottish supporters they failed to qualify for the umpteenth time.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"lol,,please don't argue,,but its ENGLAND fans fighting this week,,not Scots Irish or Welsh.

You're right! Not worth arguing.

It's why I prefer rugby and cricket. Everyone gets d*unk, sings a lot and spends their time making a beer snake out of empty plastic glasses!"

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/rugby/rugby-league-shame-game-salford-7645871#L3d42dFjurDhRjFd.97

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Britain sadly has a culture of alcohol followed by violence, just check out most town centres on a Friday and Saturday night. Glad to see UEFA acting with regard to Russia and just hope everyone can behave appropriately from now on, but sadly I doubt it.

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By *abioMan  over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


"

Didn't the northern Irish have some problems? There certainly wouldn't be no Scottish supporters they failed to qualify for the umpteenth time. "

yes... there were outbreaks of violence between them and the poles..... and actually in lille between the germans and the ukrainians..

the poland germany game could be a bit tasty.....

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By *radleyandRavenCouple  over a year ago

Herts


"Why is it that Europe are selecting the UK as scapegoats

With the fans causing trouble

When the Russians are organized gangs of professional trouble causers and not footy fans

FFS how the hell has Russia got into the competition in the first place

How long has Russia been in Europe !!!!!!

Personally I could not give a toss about the football but I do about professional thugs intent on trying to get countries sent home maybe the tactics are get everyone band and you might stand a chance of winning.

"

Russia has actually been given a suspended disqualification - one more incident and they're out of Euro 2016.

They're also receiving a €150,000 fine and France are apparently trying to get 50 Russian fans deported over the violence.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"lol,,please don't argue,,but its ENGLAND fans fighting this week,,not Scots Irish or Welsh.

You're right! Not worth arguing.

It's why I prefer rugby and cricket. Everyone gets d*unk, sings a lot and spends their time making a beer snake out of empty plastic glasses!

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/rugby/rugby-league-shame-game-salford-7645871#L3d42dFjurDhRjFd.97"

I meant proper rugby...Union!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"UK thugs,,,?

Cant remember the tartan army being involved in any hooliganism home or abroad.

England,,yes.

I do find it very strange however that no Russians have been punnished

You search google my friend you'll find it, search Scottish FA cup final this year"

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"UK thugs,,,?

Cant remember the tartan army being involved in any hooliganism home or abroad.

England,,yes.

I do find it very strange however that no Russians have been punnished

You search google my friend you'll find it, search Scottish FA cup final this year

"

that was a scuffle

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"lol,,please don't argue,,but its ENGLAND fans fighting this week,,not Scots Irish or Welsh.

You're right! Not worth arguing.

It's why I prefer rugby and cricket. Everyone gets d*unk, sings a lot and spends their time making a beer snake out of empty plastic glasses!

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/rugby/rugby-league-shame-game-salford-7645871#L3d42dFjurDhRjFd.97

I meant proper rugby...Union!"

How many clippings of players assaulting each other would you like??

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"lol,,please don't argue,,but its ENGLAND fans fighting this week,,not Scots Irish or Welsh."
When you lot paint half your face blue and run towards us with tartan skirts on and rusty impliments I have no intention of arguing with you Mikki

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

eufa can only hold clubs/countries responsible for what happens inside the ground with those that were issued tickets they cant hold them responsible for tourism

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

So the fighting has moved onto Lille. Videos of English and Welsh fans in traditional pose, arms aloft chanting "we're England and Wales, f&@k of Russia we're England an Wales". Yes the Russians are thugs, but is it too much to ask that young men from this country can behave with a bit of respect? So predictable and so depressing.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"So the fighting has moved onto Lille. Videos of English and Welsh fans in traditional pose, arms aloft chanting "we're England and Wales, f&@k of Russia we're England an Wales". Yes the Russians are thugs, but is it too much to ask that young men from this country can behave with a bit of respect? So predictable and so depressing."

Yes I think they deserve to be hit with iron bars, or stamped on the head by 5 Russians for singing

How is the world of the daily mail?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"So the fighting has moved onto Lille. Videos of English and Welsh fans in traditional pose, arms aloft chanting "we're England and Wales, f&@k of Russia we're England an Wales". Yes the Russians are thugs, but is it too much to ask that young men from this country can behave with a bit of respect? So predictable and so depressing.

Yes I think they deserve to be hit with iron bars, or stamped on the head by 5 Russians for singing

How is the world of the daily mail?"

apparently if you watch the footage on rewind you see the england fans catching the chairs and putting them down back down beside the tables

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"lol,,please don't argue,,but its ENGLAND fans fighting this week,,not Scots Irish or Welsh."

Welsh, Irish an Scotish teams have big firms who meet an fight domestically an

Internationally..... England is always pointed at first as you have shown, deservedly in the past Italian, Russian, Polish they attack anyone an use weapons.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"So the fighting has moved onto Lille. Videos of English and Welsh fans in traditional pose, arms aloft chanting "we're England and Wales, f&@k of Russia we're England an Wales". Yes the Russians are thugs, but is it too much to ask that young men from this country can behave with a bit of respect? So predictable and so depressing."

Warrior Nation, only liked when fighting has to be done, my Grandad used to say

That, he was at Ypres in WW1 an Dunkirk an D-Day kn WW2.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Mates out there russia came unstuck last night in equal numbers not picking on women and kids now but lads

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"lol,,please don't argue,,but its ENGLAND fans fighting this week,,not Scots Irish or Welsh.

You're right! Not worth arguing.

It's why I prefer rugby and cricket. Everyone gets d*unk, sings a lot and spends their time making a beer snake out of empty plastic glasses!"

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Russia has always been in europe hasnt it??

It seems in some ways they have come down harder on europe but slapped a massive deterent on both nations and rightly so if more violence is avoided x

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I never understand these pleas.

You know, there are Russian, French and English thugs. There always will be.

They bring shame on genuine football fans.

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