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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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So, last night as the deadline to vote closed there was an error with the registration vote - as a result a potentially large number of the electorate didn't register in time.
So quick question - who thinks the registry should be re-opened for a few more days?
Follow up question, does anyone agree or disagree with the notion that voting should be compulsory? |
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over a year ago
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I think it should always be up to the voter if they vote or not, there choice.
As for reopening the voting again then no, if people hadn't left in to the last moment then there wouldn't have been a problem so it's there own fault. |
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"So, last night as the deadline to vote closed there was an error with the registration vote - as a result a potentially large number of the electorate didn't register in time.
So quick question - who thinks the registry should be re-opened for a few more days?
Follow up question, does anyone agree or disagree with the notion that voting should be compulsory?"
No it shouldn't. If your stupid enough to leave it that late you deserve to miss your chance. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"I think it should always be up to the voter if they vote or not, there choice.
As for reopening the voting again then no, if people hadn't left in to the last moment then there wouldn't have been a problem so it's there own fault."
I agree that it should be up to the voter whether they vote or not, that's a matter of freedom of choice. However, a part of me wants it to be compulsory so people hopefully pay more attention to the details of politics or alternatively a large amount of people spoil their vote which would hopefully send a greater message to political parties. |
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By *eccymanMan
over a year ago
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It's not like it hasn't been continually in the news for months so if some film left it to the last minute tough. The register should be reopened for the exact amount of time that it was down and that's all. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"So, last night as the deadline to vote closed there was an error with the registration vote - as a result a potentially large number of the electorate didn't register in time.
So quick question - who thinks the registry should be re-opened for a few more days?
Follow up question, does anyone agree or disagree with the notion that voting should be compulsory?
No it shouldn't. If your stupid enough to leave it that late you deserve to miss your chance. "
I agree yet disagree. On one had, yes, they should have been more on the ball, on the other hand I think both sides need as much voter turn out as possible so it makes logical sense to extend it to allow a greater representation of society to vote on the matter. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"So, last night as the deadline to vote closed there was an error with the registration vote - as a result a potentially large number of the electorate didn't register in time.
So quick question - who thinks the registry should be re-opened for a few more days?
Follow up question, does anyone agree or disagree with the notion that voting should be compulsory?
No it shouldn't. If your stupid enough to leave it that late you deserve to miss your chance.
I agree yet disagree. On one had, yes, they should have been more on the ball, on the other hand I think both sides need as much voter turn out as possible so it makes logical sense to extend it to allow a greater representation of society to vote on the matter."
This has been know about for months and if they are to bloody lazy to get off there ass to do it then sorry, hard luck |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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No to compulsory voting. It flies in the face of democracy.
No to re-opening the registration process. But looks as though they ARE going to do this (just been on 1pm news) as Cameron feels that more late registration voters will vote remain. He will do anything possible to skew the results. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"No to compulsory voting. It flies in the face of democracy.
No to re-opening the registration process. But looks as though they ARE going to do this (just been on 1pm news) as Cameron feels that more late registration voters will vote remain. He will do anything possible to skew the results."
Please don't take this as a dig, but I don't see how anyone can be sure which side will register late. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"As long as it doesn't affect the date of the referendum, what's it matter if it's put back a few days?"
I was thinking this.
I heard someone saying they think Cameron wants it re-opening as he feels as though the people late to sign up would have been remain voters. I think regardless of his thoughts it's false. There will be a lot of uncertain voters in that bunch who could swing either way over the next 2 weeks. |
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You can bet they will re-open the registration. The age range of those trying to register was mainly under-40's , that age group has a slightly higher 'remain' from polls I have seen, therefore they will allow an extension on the pretense of fairness. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"No to compulsory voting. It flies in the face of democracy.
No to re-opening the registration process. But looks as though they ARE going to do this (just been on 1pm news) as Cameron feels that more late registration voters will vote remain. He will do anything possible to skew the results.
Please don't take this as a dig, but I don't see how anyone can be sure which side will register late. "
I don't think there is a side with a majority of 'late voters'.
Older leavers might have been a little technologically inept. Younger remain voters are in the middle of A-level and uni exam seasons. Undecided voters might have had a last min change of heart from "what is the point?" to "X's argument has persuaded me to vote." |
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
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i have always thought it was weird that we do all our refs on a thursday (i know its historical)
I am sure more people would vote if it was a saturday or a sunday......
also... yes i think they should re-open it up for 24 hrs.... |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"I think the deadline should be extended. People should not be penalised and lose the opportunity to join in the democratic process due to IT issues. "
I can completely agree. It flies in the face of democracy to say, no vote for you cause the server crashed. Even if they just re-open the poll for a day with a few days between now and then informing people, that is better. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I think the deadline should be extended. People should not be penalised and lose the opportunity to join in the democratic process due to IT issues. "
But it wasn't an IT problem it was because every one left it to the last moment to do it, that's not IT that's laziness |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"You can bet they will re-open the registration. The age range of those trying to register was mainly under-40's , that age group has a slightly higher 'remain' from polls I have seen, therefore they will allow an extension on the pretense of fairness."
I agree and disagree. Honestly I think that even the younger voters are going to be split 50/50. Though perhaps this time the polls might be right. I think upbringing, qualifications and the region you live and work in will have a far greater influence over your vote than age. |
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I have some sympathy for the late registers, and it might have been overloaded in the last hour. However, the decision to extend will be made on affecting the outcome in the way that suits the government. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"I think the deadline should be extended. People should not be penalised and lose the opportunity to join in the democratic process due to IT issues.
But it wasn't an IT problem it was because every one left it to the last moment to do it, that's not IT that's laziness "
Have you ever changed your mind about doing something last minuet due to a sudden change of heart or realisation? If everyone has a right to choose whether they will or will not vote, then they have the right to choose when to register in the given time frame. If that's a last minuet decision then the voting process needs to be able to support that decision. |
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By *oodmessMan
over a year ago
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Given last night was the first stand up debate instead of reporters trying to interview in/out campaigners for headlines. I don't think people were aware of the closing deadline, interested in voting before, realised the impact the their vote or had any chance to hear a near rational debate of arguments. |
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"You can bet they will re-open the registration. The age range of those trying to register was mainly under-40's , that age group has a slightly higher 'remain' from polls I have seen, therefore they will allow an extension on the pretense of fairness.
I agree and disagree. Honestly I think that even the younger voters are going to be split 50/50. Though perhaps this time the polls might be right. I think upbringing, qualifications and the region you live and work in will have a far greater influence over your vote than age."
Yes the factors you mention probably affect the outcome more. But when the whole vote might go 50:50 , if you can increase the quantity of a demographic that might be 52:48 to stay, then it will be tempting for them to do. It will be done for that reason, not a love of fairness and democracy. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"I have some sympathy for the late registers, and it might have been overloaded in the last hour. However, the decision to extend will be made on affecting the outcome in the way that suits the government."
It's nice to see someone who isn't being too rude about it.  Though I disagree, Cameron isn't thick, he knows that by reopening he might allow additional people who are not registered to vote yet in, who might want to vote leave.
It could work both ways, or those who register might vote in a 50/50 split, lets face it. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Given last night was the first stand up debate instead of reporters trying to interview in/out campaigners for headlines. I don't think people were aware of the closing deadline, interested in voting before, realised the impact the their vote or had any chance to hear a near rational debate of arguments."
It's been allover the TV and radio for weeks that today was the deadline. They made adverts specifically to get the message across. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Given last night was the first stand up debate instead of reporters trying to interview in/out campaigners for headlines. I don't think people were aware of the closing deadline, interested in voting before, realised the impact the their vote or had any chance to hear a near rational debate of arguments."
 Yes, there should have been more televised debates before last night. |
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"I think the deadline should be extended. People should not be penalised and lose the opportunity to join in the democratic process due to IT issues.
But it wasn't an IT problem it was because every one left it to the last moment to do it, that's not IT that's laziness "
The IT system should have been robust enough to cope with a huge amount of last minute lennies. A bit of forward thinking might have avoided the issue. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I think the deadline should be extended. People should not be penalised and lose the opportunity to join in the democratic process due to IT issues.
But it wasn't an IT problem it was because every one left it to the last moment to do it, that's not IT that's laziness "
Of course its IT. They were led to believe they had till midnight and the IT fell over. Hows that laziness?
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By (user no longer on site)
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"No to compulsory voting. It flies in the face of democracy.
No to re-opening the registration process. But looks as though they ARE going to do this (just been on 1pm news) as Cameron feels that more late registration voters will vote remain. He will do anything possible to skew the results."
The moment he smiled on camera i knew he could never be trusted...worse than Blair or Clinton. |
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"You can bet they will re-open the registration. The age range of those trying to register was mainly under-40's , that age group has a slightly higher 'remain' from polls I have seen, therefore they will allow an extension on the pretense of fairness.
I agree and disagree. Honestly I think that even the younger voters are going to be split 50/50. Though perhaps this time the polls might be right. I think upbringing, qualifications and the region you live and work in will have a far greater influence over your vote than age.
Yes the factors you mention probably affect the outcome more. But when the whole vote might go 50:50 , if you can increase the quantity of a demographic that might be 52:48 to stay, then it will be tempting for them to do. It will be done for that reason, not a love of fairness and democracy."
I see your points but lets face it, polls have been horrendously wrong in the past. It's a huge gamble on the governments part. The fact is those under 30's voters could swing in favour of Brexit - statistically speaking if they live in a lower income area or have low skills then they will be pro-Brexit more.
On the other hand opening the ability to resister will allow more people over 30 to resister. It doesn't matter who was trying to register last night, there will always be some older people not registered who could jump in. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"No to compulsory voting. It flies in the face of democracy.
No to re-opening the registration process. But looks as though they ARE going to do this (just been on 1pm news) as Cameron feels that more late registration voters will vote remain. He will do anything possible to skew the results.
Please don't take this as a dig, but I don't see how anyone can be sure which side will register late.
I don't think there is a side with a majority of 'late voters'.
Older leavers might have been a little technologically inept. Younger remain voters are in the middle of A-level and uni exam seasons. Undecided voters might have had a last min change of heart from "what is the point?" to "X's argument has persuaded me to vote.""
technologically inept? Jeez you've got some strange ideas. Yes, I bet they've been sat at the computer for the last 4 weeks wondering how to switch the fucker on  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I think the deadline should be extended. People should not be penalised and lose the opportunity to join in the democratic process due to IT issues.
But it wasn't an IT problem it was because every one left it to the last moment to do it, that's not IT that's laziness
The IT system should have been robust enough to cope with a huge amount of last minute lennies. A bit of forward thinking might have avoided the issue. "
That's my point people have had months to do it way leave it until the very last moment possible, if it was that important to them they would have done it weeks ago. |
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
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"I think the deadline should be extended. People should not be penalised and lose the opportunity to join in the democratic process due to IT issues.
But it wasn't an IT problem it was because every one left it to the last moment to do it, that's not IT that's laziness "
if you want figures...
according to gov .uk.... 525,000 people managed to register yesterday...
when the system crashed, there were 214,000 people per hour trying to register.... even for the general election the most people they had at anytime per hour was 74,000
apparently sky are reporting electorial folks have been told to prepare for a 75-80% turnout...way way larger that a General Election, is super huge and "scottish refereundum" type numbers....
they are still encouraging people to register today and they will put thru 2nd law to make it legal |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"You can bet they will re-open the registration. The age range of those trying to register was mainly under-40's , that age group has a slightly higher 'remain' from polls I have seen, therefore they will allow an extension on the pretense of fairness.
I agree and disagree. Honestly I think that even the younger voters are going to be split 50/50. Though perhaps this time the polls might be right. I think upbringing, qualifications and the region you live and work in will have a far greater influence over your vote than age.
Yes the factors you mention probably affect the outcome more. But when the whole vote might go 50:50 , if you can increase the quantity of a demographic that might be 52:48 to stay, then it will be tempting for them to do. It will be done for that reason, not a love of fairness and democracy.
I see your points but lets face it, polls have been horrendously wrong in the past. It's a huge gamble on the governments part. The fact is those under 30's voters could swing in favour of Brexit - statistically speaking if they live in a lower income area or have low skills then they will be pro-Brexit more.
On the other hand opening the ability to resister will allow more people over 30 to resister. It doesn't matter who was trying to register last night, there will always be some older people not registered who could jump in."
so what is it you are actually saying? That the thicker you are the more likely you are to vote Brexit? Or the more experience of lifes problems you have the more likely you are to vote Brexit? |
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By *eccymanMan
over a year ago
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I don't believe in compulsory voting either but I think there is a case for removing someone from the electoral register if they haven't voted for three consecutive elections. That isn't undemocratic a as they can always re register if so wish but it is expensive to issue voting papers for a large amount of people who simply throw them away. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"I think the deadline should be extended. People should not be penalised and lose the opportunity to join in the democratic process due to IT issues.
But it wasn't an IT problem it was because every one left it to the last moment to do it, that's not IT that's laziness
The IT system should have been robust enough to cope with a huge amount of last minute lennies. A bit of forward thinking might have avoided the issue.
That's my point people have had months to do it way leave it until the very last moment possible, if it was that important to them they would have done it weeks ago."
It might not have been important to them until they watch the televised debate though...not trying to be rue but people do sometimes leave things to the last minuet so when under pressure they follow their gut as to whether they should do something. Lets not forget, life is hectic. People forget important crap all he time. |
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"I think the deadline should be extended. People should not be penalised and lose the opportunity to join in the democratic process due to IT issues.
But it wasn't an IT problem it was because every one left it to the last moment to do it, that's not IT that's laziness
The IT system should have been robust enough to cope with a huge amount of last minute lennies. A bit of forward thinking might have avoided the issue.
That's my point people have had months to do it way leave it until the very last moment possible, if it was that important to them they would have done it weeks ago."
I meant forward thinking of the IT people not wannabe voters. Leaving something to before a deadline isn't necessarily a sign of laziness. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"No to compulsory voting. It flies in the face of democracy.
No to re-opening the registration process. But looks as though they ARE going to do this (just been on 1pm news) as Cameron feels that more late registration voters will vote remain. He will do anything possible to skew the results.
Please don't take this as a dig, but I don't see how anyone can be sure which side will register late.
I don't think there is a side with a majority of 'late voters'.
Older leavers might have been a little technologically inept. Younger remain voters are in the middle of A-level and uni exam seasons. Undecided voters might have had a last min change of heart from "what is the point?" to "X's argument has persuaded me to vote."
technologically inept? Jeez you've got some strange ideas. Yes, I bet they've been sat at the computer for the last 4 weeks wondering how to switch the fucker on "
My dad and mum are 62 and had to register for the general election last year. I had to sit down with them and spend about 40 minuets going through it all. A lot of my friends and I shared a laugh over similar situations. |
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"You can bet they will re-open the registration. The age range of those trying to register was mainly under-40's , that age group has a slightly higher 'remain' from polls I have seen, therefore they will allow an extension on the pretense of fairness.
I agree and disagree. Honestly I think that even the younger voters are going to be split 50/50. Though perhaps this time the polls might be right. I think upbringing, qualifications and the region you live and work in will have a far greater influence over your vote than age.
Yes the factors you mention probably affect the outcome more. But when the whole vote might go 50:50 , if you can increase the quantity of a demographic that might be 52:48 to stay, then it will be tempting for them to do. It will be done for that reason, not a love of fairness and democracy.
I see your points but lets face it, polls have been horrendously wrong in the past. It's a huge gamble on the governments part. The fact is those under 30's voters could swing in favour of Brexit - statistically speaking if they live in a lower income area or have low skills then they will be pro-Brexit more.
On the other hand opening the ability to resister will allow more people over 30 to resister. It doesn't matter who was trying to register last night, there will always be some older people not registered who could jump in.
so what is it you are actually saying? That the thicker you are the more likely you are to vote Brexit? Or the more experience of lifes problems you have the more likely you are to vote Brexit?"
Not at all. Intelligence isn't denoted by numbers and letters on a piece of paper - those are just skills and specialisations. Just that people who have invested in their futures through education and skill specialisation in varying forms are most likely less certain about Brexit. People who come from lower income areas are typically more invested in the immigration side of the discussion, as it centres around council housing availability and pay increase/decrease. |
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"I think the deadline should be extended. People should not be penalised and lose the opportunity to join in the democratic process due to IT issues.
But it wasn't an IT problem it was because every one left it to the last moment to do it, that's not IT that's laziness
The IT system should have been robust enough to cope with a huge amount of last minute lennies. A bit of forward thinking might have avoided the issue.
That's my point people have had months to do it way leave it until the very last moment possible, if it was that important to them they would have done it weeks ago.
I meant forward thinking of the IT people not wannabe voters. Leaving something to before a deadline isn't necessarily a sign of laziness. "
Well I think we will have to agree to disagree on that, because to me it is.
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"You can bet they will re-open the registration. The age range of those trying to register was mainly under-40's , that age group has a slightly higher 'remain' from polls I have seen, therefore they will allow an extension on the pretense of fairness.
I agree and disagree. Honestly I think that even the younger voters are going to be split 50/50. Though perhaps this time the polls might be right. I think upbringing, qualifications and the region you live and work in will have a far greater influence over your vote than age.
Yes the factors you mention probably affect the outcome more. But when the whole vote might go 50:50 , if you can increase the quantity of a demographic that might be 52:48 to stay, then it will be tempting for them to do. It will be done for that reason, not a love of fairness and democracy.
I see your points but lets face it, polls have been horrendously wrong in the past. It's a huge gamble on the governments part. The fact is those under 30's voters could swing in favour of Brexit - statistically speaking if they live in a lower income area or have low skills then they will be pro-Brexit more.
On the other hand opening the ability to resister will allow more people over 30 to resister. It doesn't matter who was trying to register last night, there will always be some older people not registered who could jump in.
so what is it you are actually saying? That the thicker you are the more likely you are to vote Brexit? Or the more experience of lifes problems you have the more likely you are to vote Brexit?
Not at all. Intelligence isn't denoted by numbers and letters on a piece of paper - those are just skills and specialisations. Just that people who have invested in their futures through education and skill specialisation in varying forms are most likely less certain about Brexit. People who come from lower income areas are typically more invested in the immigration side of the discussion, as it centres around council housing availability and pay increase/decrease."
so the EU is for the more well off then? |
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"You can bet they will re-open the registration. The age range of those trying to register was mainly under-40's , that age group has a slightly higher 'remain' from polls I have seen, therefore they will allow an extension on the pretense of fairness.
I agree and disagree. Honestly I think that even the younger voters are going to be split 50/50. Though perhaps this time the polls might be right. I think upbringing, qualifications and the region you live and work in will have a far greater influence over your vote than age.
Yes the factors you mention probably affect the outcome more. But when the whole vote might go 50:50 , if you can increase the quantity of a demographic that might be 52:48 to stay, then it will be tempting for them to do. It will be done for that reason, not a love of fairness and democracy.
I see your points but lets face it, polls have been horrendously wrong in the past. It's a huge gamble on the governments part. The fact is those under 30's voters could swing in favour of Brexit - statistically speaking if they live in a lower income area or have low skills then they will be pro-Brexit more.
On the other hand opening the ability to resister will allow more people over 30 to resister. It doesn't matter who was trying to register last night, there will always be some older people not registered who could jump in.
so what is it you are actually saying? That the thicker you are the more likely you are to vote Brexit? Or the more experience of lifes problems you have the more likely you are to vote Brexit?
Not at all. Intelligence isn't denoted by numbers and letters on a piece of paper - those are just skills and specialisations. Just that people who have invested in their futures through education and skill specialisation in varying forms are most likely less certain about Brexit. People who come from lower income areas are typically more invested in the immigration side of the discussion, as it centres around council housing availability and pay increase/decrease.
so the EU is for the more well off then?"
God this is like talking to a teenager who can only see something through one lens and cherry pics everything.
No, the EU can work and 'is for' everyone. It is just that some, key word, some, demographics within society have a higher percentage of individuals who for social and economic reasons have a greater affinity to stay within or leave the EU. |
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The IT system should have been robust enough to cope with a huge amount of last minute lennies. A bit of forward thinking might have avoided the issue. "
Call me cynical, but I'm wondering how many people suddenly discovered there was a referendum at half an hour to midnight, or whether one side or the other, or the papers, thought that by crashing the system via a denial of service attack would make a good story/excuse for one side losing.
It currently appears to be providing both...
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Cameron is using the force of government (again) to try to rig and sway the vote in his favour. He already did it with the deeply unfair £9 million taxpayer funded pro EU propaganda leaflet and putting links to Stronger in material on official government websites. This is just his latest ploy to try to rig the vote in his favour but it won't work, he can try all he likes I think the result will be Leave by a big margin and he can't do anything about it. People in this country have had a belly full of the EU and are fed up of it.
The deadline for people to register to vote in the EU referendum has been known about for weeks so I've no idea why anyone would leave it to the last minute (as it appears many did last night)? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Whilst a lot stinks in this referendum from the lack of information, overload of disinformation and the infamous £9m pamphlet opening registration for a further 48 hours because IT failed isn't the one of them.
Seeing conspiracies when there isn't one does no one favours.
And before I'm labelled as a Cameron apologist, I'm probably voting leave. |
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"Whilst a lot stinks in this referendum from the lack of information, overload of disinformation and the infamous £9m pamphlet opening registration for a further 48 hours because IT failed isn't the one of them.
Seeing conspiracies when there isn't one does no one favours.
And before I'm labelled as a Cameron apologist, I'm probably voting leave."
The veterans for Brexit group are a group of ex serving and currently serving armed forces military personnel. From polling it seems a large majority of armed forces personnel want Britain to leave the EU and there were concerns expressed by veterans for Brexit that many armed forces personnel were not registered to vote. I think this extension deadline on registering to vote could work to the Leave side favour as veterans for Brexit now have more time to target ex military and currently serving armed forces personnel to make sure they are registered to vote in the EU referendum. |
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"You can bet they will re-open the registration. The age range of those trying to register was mainly under-40's , that age group has a slightly higher 'remain' from polls I have seen, therefore they will allow an extension on the pretense of fairness.
I agree and disagree. Honestly I think that even the younger voters are going to be split 50/50. Though perhaps this time the polls might be right. I think upbringing, qualifications and the region you live and work in will have a far greater influence over your vote than age.
Yes the factors you mention probably affect the outcome more. But when the whole vote might go 50:50 , if you can increase the quantity of a demographic that might be 52:48 to stay, then it will be tempting for them to do. It will be done for that reason, not a love of fairness and democracy.
I see your points but lets face it, polls have been horrendously wrong in the past. It's a huge gamble on the governments part. The fact is those under 30's voters could swing in favour of Brexit - statistically speaking if they live in a lower income area or have low skills then they will be pro-Brexit more.
On the other hand opening the ability to resister will allow more people over 30 to resister. It doesn't matter who was trying to register last night, there will always be some older people not registered who could jump in.
so what is it you are actually saying? That the thicker you are the more likely you are to vote Brexit? Or the more experience of lifes problems you have the more likely you are to vote Brexit?
Not at all. Intelligence isn't denoted by numbers and letters on a piece of paper - those are just skills and specialisations. Just that people who have invested in their futures through education and skill specialisation in varying forms are most likely less certain about Brexit. People who come from lower income areas are typically more invested in the immigration side of the discussion, as it centres around council housing availability and pay increase/decrease.
so the EU is for the more well off then?
God this is like talking to a teenager who can only see something through one lens and cherry pics everything.
No, the EU can work and 'is for' everyone. It is just that some, key word, some, demographics within society have a higher percentage of individuals who for social and economic reasons have a greater affinity to stay within or leave the EU."
It's for everyone? So why are the people from low income areas less likely to see it like that? Are you saying then that they don't know what's good for them? |
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No to compulsary voting.
Yes to reopening who cares they left it to the last min they were still before the deadline and deserve their vote. I only updated mine on Monday as I suddenly realised I had moved since in the last 2 months. |
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If the system had a fault and it can reasonably be reopened for additional time, then it should be.
There is a duty of the government to make voting availability for as many of the population as is eligible. |
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"If the system had a fault and it can reasonably be reopened for additional time, then it should be.
There is a duty of the government to make voting availability for as many of the population as is eligible. "
And there is a duty to adhere to the law |
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