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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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The UK faces a "triple whammy of woe" - including footing an extra £2.4bn bill from Brussels - if it remains part of the EU
The UK will face a bigger bill because of budget increases in Brussels, future eurozone bailouts, and a "£20bn black hole" in the EU finances
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the UK will be "forced to hand over even more money" if voters opt to stay in the EU in the 23 June referendum
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so? should we stay or should we Go? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"The UK faces a "triple whammy of woe" - including footing an extra £2.4bn bill from Brussels - if it remains part of the EU
The UK will face a bigger bill because of budget increases in Brussels, future eurozone bailouts, and a "£20bn black hole" in the EU finances
.
the UK will be "forced to hand over even more money" if voters opt to stay in the EU in the 23 June referendum
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so? should we stay or should we Go?"
do those figures come from the same sources that Farage states will cause more sexual attacks on women if we remain within the EU? |
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"The UK faces a "triple whammy of woe" - including footing an extra £2.4bn bill from Brussels - if it remains part of the EU
The UK will face a bigger bill because of budget increases in Brussels, future eurozone bailouts, and a "£20bn black hole" in the EU finances
.
the UK will be "forced to hand over even more money" if voters opt to stay in the EU in the 23 June referendum
.
so? should we stay or should we Go? do those figures come from the same sources that Farage states will cause more sexual attacks on women if we remain within the EU? "
no, from the EU |
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"The UK faces a "triple whammy of woe" - including footing an extra £2.4bn bill from Brussels - if it remains part of the EU
The UK will face a bigger bill because of budget increases in Brussels, future eurozone bailouts, and a "£20bn black hole" in the EU finances
.
the UK will be "forced to hand over even more money" if voters opt to stay in the EU in the 23 June referendum
.
so? should we stay or should we Go? do those figures come from the same sources that Farage states will cause more sexual attacks on women if we remain within the EU?
no, from the EU"
No, from Boris Johnson;
He has made the figure up from
1.the possible 20 Bn " black hole" ; ( it's a worst case estimate) which the EU is making a multi- year plan to address ( certainly not pay off in one go); which UK does not have to get involved in anyway.
2. " possible" Euro payouts ( which UK does not get involved in)
3. And a vague idea that due to low growth, we might have to "pay more in"
So it's mostly a figment of his imagination, part of BREXIT's campaign of fear. Since BREXIT can't actually win the economic argument, they have to mNufacture something. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"The UK faces a "triple whammy of woe" - including footing an extra £2.4bn bill from Brussels - if it remains part of the EU
The UK will face a bigger bill because of budget increases in Brussels, future eurozone bailouts, and a "£20bn black hole" in the EU finances
.
the UK will be "forced to hand over even more money" if voters opt to stay in the EU in the 23 June referendum
.
so? should we stay or should we Go? do those figures come from the same sources that Farage states will cause more sexual attacks on women if we remain within the EU?
no, from the EU
No, from Boris Johnson;
He has made the figure up from
1.the possible 20 Bn " black hole" ; ( it's a worst case estimate) which the EU is making a multi- year plan to address ( certainly not pay off in one go); which UK does not have to get involved in anyway.
2. " possible" Euro payouts ( which UK does not get involved in)
3. And a vague idea that due to low growth, we might have to "pay more in"
So it's mostly a figment of his imagination, part of BREXIT's campaign of fear. Since BREXIT can't actually win the economic argument, they have to mNufacture something."
if it was all about fear, couldn't he have made the figures higher? Or thrown in what we 'could' be paying in say, let me think, 2030? |
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"The UK faces a "triple whammy of woe" - including footing an extra £2.4bn bill from Brussels - if it remains part of the EU
The UK will face a bigger bill because of budget increases in Brussels, future eurozone bailouts, and a "£20bn black hole" in the EU finances
.
the UK will be "forced to hand over even more money" if voters opt to stay in the EU in the 23 June referendum
.
so? should we stay or should we Go? do those figures come from the same sources that Farage states will cause more sexual attacks on women if we remain within the EU?
no, from the EU
No, from Boris Johnson;
He has made the figure up from
1.the possible 20 Bn " black hole" ; ( it's a worst case estimate) which the EU is making a multi- year plan to address ( certainly not pay off in one go); which UK does not have to get involved in anyway.
2. " possible" Euro payouts ( which UK does not get involved in)
3. And a vague idea that due to low growth, we might have to "pay more in"
So it's mostly a figment of his imagination, part of BREXIT's campaign of fear. Since BREXIT can't actually win the economic argument, they have to mNufacture something.
if it was all about fear, couldn't he have made the figures higher? Or thrown in what we 'could' be paying in say, let me think, 2030?"
No, he knows that if he massively overdid it, it would be laughed away to easily; he has already made himself ridiculous with the " two bananas" saying, and can't afford to say anything too outlandish at this point.
He is clever enough now to know that he can't get away with complete lies, and has to have something that looks just slightly credible , Hence he has used the " black hole" which has a bit of credibility;
Note that he didn't even give a timescale for this " so called whammy"
But alllows people to infer that it would be immediate, or annual, when the reality is that it is mostly non existent ( and the U.K. Is not involved in any of it anyway, ) and for those EU countries that might have to get involved, it would be a multi year solution.
But hey, let's not let truth get in the way of a good story. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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The problem is that anything that Cameroon so called negotiated for us is not written into the charter is it ? So any and all agreements are not cast iron.
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By (user no longer on site)
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"The UK faces a "triple whammy of woe" - including footing an extra £2.4bn bill from Brussels - if it remains part of the EU
The UK will face a bigger bill because of budget increases in Brussels, future eurozone bailouts, and a "£20bn black hole" in the EU finances
.
the UK will be "forced to hand over even more money" if voters opt to stay in the EU in the 23 June referendum
.
so? should we stay or should we Go? do those figures come from the same sources that Farage states will cause more sexual attacks on women if we remain within the EU?
no, from the EU
No, from Boris Johnson;
He has made the figure up from
1.the possible 20 Bn " black hole" ; ( it's a worst case estimate) which the EU is making a multi- year plan to address ( certainly not pay off in one go); which UK does not have to get involved in anyway.
2. " possible" Euro payouts ( which UK does not get involved in)
3. And a vague idea that due to low growth, we might have to "pay more in"
So it's mostly a figment of his imagination, part of BREXIT's campaign of fear. Since BREXIT can't actually win the economic argument, they have to mNufacture something.
if it was all about fear, couldn't he have made the figures higher? Or thrown in what we 'could' be paying in say, let me think, 2030?
No, he knows that if he massively overdid it, it would be laughed away to easily; he has already made himself ridiculous with the " two bananas" saying, and can't afford to say anything too outlandish at this point.
He is clever enough now to know that he can't get away with complete lies, and has to have something that looks just slightly credible , Hence he has used the " black hole" which has a bit of credibility;
Note that he didn't even give a timescale for this " so called whammy"
But alllows people to infer that it would be immediate, or annual, when the reality is that it is mostly non existent ( and the U.K. Is not involved in any of it anyway, ) and for those EU countries that might have to get involved, it would be a multi year solution.
But hey, let's not let truth get in the way of a good story."
Boris is a cunning liar as you said. He uses the worst case estimates to his advantage for scare tactics. If you study everything he's ever said you easily see he just goes from one stance to another to get the best response. |
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
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"The problem is that anything that Cameroon so called negotiated for us is not written into the charter is it ? So any and all agreements are not cast iron.
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the problem with this one in this case is that it IS cast iron... in that it is already written in EU law... and the renegoiation that cameron actually did actually strengthened that position... |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Well they have to pay for thier epensive meals and accommodation somehow LoL.
I wonder how long before there is a scandal just like the Fifa one  "
...Would love to see those EU Account's. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"How long is it now until we get to vote?
We won;t even STFU about this when we've voted. Everyone will be arguing about it for months.
*sighs*"
Agreed. I reckon it'll go on easily for a year or two. And somehow any big economic or humanitarian disaster will be exclusively the result or voting to leave or stay. |
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