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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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Would you support and cheer on any of the home nations in a tournament/ competition ?
Or are you anti England with a passion or just as a joke?
I'm English born, half Scottish, quarter Irish and lived in Wales half my life, so would cheer on anyone  |
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over a year ago
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Looking at it from another perspective I never quite get it why the English seem to support other home nations but not in reverse.
For example there always seems to be a lot of English support for the Republic of Ireland - er can you imagine them all in Dublin cheering on the English? It'll never happen!
For me it's England or nobody. I'll take an interest in the other home nations the same as I would Iceland or Belarus - they're just another country that I'll watch in on as a neutral.
Mind you, I am looking forward to England v Scotland at Wembley in November as that's always fiesty.
I can't believe they expanded the Euros this year so any old 2 bob country could qualify and the Scots STILL didn't   |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Neither of us are English so we won't be supporting England, and neither of us has a team playing damn Scots couldn't even qualify and it's not the world cup so my team can't be in it lol.
Whether to support another team, see how badly or well England actually do
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Looking at it from another perspective I never quite get it why the English seem to support other home nations but not in reverse.
For example there always seems to be a lot of English support for the Republic of Ireland - er can you imagine them all in Dublin cheering on the English? It'll never happen!
For me it's England or nobody. I'll take an interest in the other home nations the same as I would Iceland or Belarus - they're just another country that I'll watch in on as a neutral.
Mind you, I am looking forward to England v Scotland at Wembley in November as that's always fiesty.
I can't believe they expanded the Euros this year so any old 2 bob country could qualify and the Scots STILL didn't "
Oii  Scotland are just training and getting themselves ready for the world cup qualifiers next time round |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Looking at it from another perspective I never quite get it why the English seem to support other home nations but not in reverse.
For example there always seems to be a lot of English support for the Republic of Ireland - er can you imagine them all in Dublin cheering on the English? It'll never happen!
For me it's England or nobody. I'll take an interest in the other home nations the same as I would Iceland or Belarus - they're just another country that I'll watch in on as a neutral.
Mind you, I am looking forward to England v Scotland at Wembley in November as that's always fiesty.
I can't believe they expanded the Euros this year so any old 2 bob country could qualify and the Scots STILL didn't
Oii Scotland are just training and getting themselves ready for the world cup qualifiers next time round "
I hope Scotland don't make it to Quatar finals. they will burn like fuck |
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As an Englishman I'll be happy to cheer on Wales and Northern Ireland in the Euro 2016 tournament finals.....Apart from when England play Wales as they got drawn in the same group then I'll be cheering on England. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Looking at it from another perspective I never quite get it why the English seem to support other home nations but not in reverse.
For example there always seems to be a lot of English support for the Republic of Ireland - er can you imagine them all in Dublin cheering on the English? It'll never happen!
For me it's England or nobody. I'll take an interest in the other home nations the same as I would Iceland or Belarus - they're just another country that I'll watch in on as a neutral.
Mind you, I am looking forward to England v Scotland at Wembley in November as that's always fiesty.
I can't believe they expanded the Euros this year so any old 2 bob country could qualify and the Scots STILL didn't
Oii Scotland are just training and getting themselves ready for the world cup qualifiers next time round "
 ah that'll be it .. Resting up for the Summer so they'll be all fresh for November |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Oii Scotland are just training and getting themselves ready for the world cup qualifiers next time round
is this how you got your user name? "
Quite probably, but a girl can dream |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Looking at it from another perspective I never quite get it why the English seem to support other home nations but not in reverse.
For example there always seems to be a lot of English support for the Republic of Ireland - er can you imagine them all in Dublin cheering on the English? It'll never happen!
For me it's England or nobody. I'll take an interest in the other home nations the same as I would Iceland or Belarus - they're just another country that I'll watch in on as a neutral.
Mind you, I am looking forward to England v Scotland at Wembley in November as that's always fiesty.
I can't believe they expanded the Euros this year so any old 2 bob country could qualify and the Scots STILL didn't
Oii Scotland are just training and getting themselves ready for the world cup qualifiers next time round
ah that'll be it .. Resting up for the Summer so they'll be all fresh for November "
Exactly, as they say Practice makes perfect  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Couldn't care less,I really can't abide international football. roll on the new domestic season I say but in the meantime I'll enjoy a football free summer. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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As an England supporter who champions all the home nations I love the idea that Scotland fans choose to support England's opponents.....
But I genuinely wish Scotland had qualified....
I love seeing the pride and passion of the tartan army in full voice...
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By (user no longer on site)
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I think a lot has to do with the media coverage of England in football tournaments .
The rest of the home nations dont get much of a look in.
Some times the media forget that us other nations are there and it does vex us a little  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"As an England supporter who champions all the home nations I love the idea that Scotland fans choose to support England's opponents.....
But I genuinely wish Scotland had qualified....
I love seeing the pride and passion of the tartan army in full voice...
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This always remember Spain 86 I think half of the Scots stayed there |
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"As an England supporter who champions all the home nations I love the idea that Scotland fans choose to support England's opponents.....
But I genuinely wish Scotland had qualified....
I love seeing the pride and passion of the tartan army in full voice...
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I like it when Scotland qualify for the Euros too, brings back memories of Gazza scoring against them for England in Euro 96. |
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I'm not a great fan of football but, as with most sports, of England are playing I support them and if they are out, never qualified or flew home after one game, I'll support another one of the home nations, normally Ireland or Scotland! |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"As an England supporter who champions all the home nations I love the idea that Scotland fans choose to support England's opponents.....
But I genuinely wish Scotland had qualified....
I love seeing the pride and passion of the tartan army in full voice...
This always remember Spain 86 I think half of the Scots stayed there "
Spain was 82 Mexico was 86 (sorry for being pedantic) |
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"As an England supporter who champions all the home nations I love the idea that Scotland fans choose to support England's opponents.....
But I genuinely wish Scotland had qualified....
I love seeing the pride and passion of the tartan army in full voice...
This always remember Spain 86 I think half of the Scots stayed there "
'78 was funnier when "ally's tartan army" were convinced they were going to win the world cup ..... too much booze and narcotics intervened though lol |
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"I think a lot has to do with the media coverage of England in football tournaments .
The rest of the home nations dont get much of a look in.
Some times the media forget that us other nations are there and it does vex us a little "
There was a story on the news last week apparently some people in Wales complained in Marks and Spencer stores because they had cardboard cut outs of England players on display and no cardboard cut outs of any Welsh players. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"I think a lot has to do with the media coverage of England in football tournaments .
The rest of the home nations dont get much of a look in.
Some times the media forget that us other nations are there and it does vex us a little "
You see, I've always supported England in footy, and Scotland in rugby 
However Wales have only played decent footy in the last four years, so they're late to the Duck supporting party
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"As an England supporter who champions all the home nations I love the idea that Scotland fans choose to support England's opponents.....
But I genuinely wish Scotland had qualified....
I love seeing the pride and passion of the tartan army in full voice...
This always remember Spain 86 I think half of the Scots stayed there Spain was 82 Mexico was 86 (sorry for being pedantic) "
Says the man who can't abide international football |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"As an England supporter who champions all the home nations I love the idea that Scotland fans choose to support England's opponents.....
But I genuinely wish Scotland had qualified....
I love seeing the pride and passion of the tartan army in full voice...
This always remember Spain 86 I think half of the Scots stayed there Spain was 82 Mexico was 86 (sorry for being pedantic) "
not a problem |
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"Oii Scotland are just training and getting themselves ready for the world cup qualifiers next time round
is this how you got your user name?
Quite probably, but a girl can dream "
At least you can cheer on Andy Murray at Wimbledon. |
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"Oii Scotland are just training and getting themselves ready for the world cup qualifiers next time round
is this how you got your user name?
Quite probably, but a girl can dream
At least you can cheer on Andy Murray at Wimbledon. "
or don trump in 3 weeks time |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Here's the thing though....
Only one team ever wins each tournament which means every other team are losers , so inevitably most of us will be supporting a bunch of losers ......
Seems to me that unless you take genuine pride in claiming our losers are better than your losers its just a bit of harmless banter ain't it.....
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Yet here we see what seems to be some people taking it seriously...pfffft....
Oh it makes me laugh .... ha-ha-ha.... ( actually that was a fake laugh) |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"As an England supporter who champions all the home nations I love the idea that Scotland fans choose to support England's opponents.....
But I genuinely wish Scotland had qualified....
I love seeing the pride and passion of the tartan army in full voice...
This always remember Spain 86 I think half of the Scots stayed there Spain was 82 Mexico was 86 (sorry for being pedantic)
Says the man who can't abide international football "
I did like watching it as a kid and collecting panini stickers but not now. I think England beating Germany 5-1 was the last match international I watched in entirety. Now I don't watch any if I can help it. |
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I'll take a keen interest in the Republic of Ireland's games as they have 3 Derby players in the squad, Richard Keogh, Jeff Hendrick & Cyrus Christie.
Northern Ireland have Chris Baird and 2 ex Derby players, Steven Davis & Jamie Ward.
Unfortunately we don't have any Welsh players 
We also have 3 Jocks, but the less said about them the better eh |
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"I'll take a keen interest in the Republic of Ireland's games as they have 3 Derby players in the squad, Richard Keogh, Jeff Hendrick & Cyrus Christie.
Northern Ireland have Chris Baird and 2 ex Derby players, Steven Davis & Jamie Ward.
Unfortunately we don't have any Welsh players
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Bale's contract is up in 3 years |
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By *ost SockMan
over a year ago
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"I think a lot has to do with the media coverage of England in football tournaments .
The rest of the home nations dont get much of a look in.
Some times the media forget that us other nations are there and it does vex us a little
There was a story on the news last week apparently some people in Wales complained in Marks and Spencer stores because they had cardboard cut outs of England players on display and no cardboard cut outs of any Welsh players. "
That happens all the time though and is the cause of a lot of the anti-English stuff.
It seems petty, but I imagine that if you lived in England, supported England and most of the media coverage and all the adverts were about the Welsh team, there'd be uproar.
It doesn't bother me, but I admit to being a bit grumpy when Emgland knocked us out of a couple of tournaments in recent times and when the finals were on Wayne flipping Rooney was staring at you in every shopping aisle.
Really, it's all to do with an imbalance in the media - it'd be far nicer for English fans if they had a media that was just for them, rather than notionally being for the whole UK (and which understandably features England more and makes the other countries feel like foreigners when playing them). They could go full-on with their support then, like we do in Wales. I'm
a fan of the Union, so prefer reading the London-based press. It is hard sometimes, though.
Imagine a world where Wales won the tournament (I know, I know!) and in England, that's all you heard about for weeks to come. The English would go loopy. That's what we're facing in Wales if England win it! If Wales won it (I know, I know) there'd be little fuss outside of Wales.
The fact England didn't play Wales for many, many years after the end of the home internationals is the cause of lingering bad feeling too.
I'll be happy to see England do well, but dreading it a tiny bit.
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"I think a lot has to do with the media coverage of England in football tournaments .
The rest of the home nations dont get much of a look in.
Some times the media forget that us other nations are there and it does vex us a little
There was a story on the news last week apparently some people in Wales complained in Marks and Spencer stores because they had cardboard cut outs of England players on display and no cardboard cut outs of any Welsh players.
That happens all the time though and is the cause of a lot of the anti-English stuff.
It seems petty, but I imagine that if you lived in England, supported England and most of the media coverage and all the adverts were about the Welsh team, there'd be uproar.
It doesn't bother me, but I admit to being a bit grumpy when Emgland knocked us out of a couple of tournaments in recent times and when the finals were on Wayne flipping Rooney was staring at you in every shopping aisle.
Really, it's all to do with an imbalance in the media - it'd be far nicer for English fans if they had a media that was just for them, rather than notionally being for the whole UK (and which understandably features England more and makes the other countries feel like foreigners when playing them). They could go full-on with their support then, like we do in Wales. I'm
a fan of the Union, so prefer reading the London-based press. It is hard sometimes, though.
Imagine a world where Wales won the tournament (I know, I know!) and in England, that's all you heard about for weeks to come. The English would go loopy. That's what we're facing in Wales if England win it! If Wales won it (I know, I know) there'd be little fuss outside of Wales.
The fact England didn't play Wales for many, many years after the end of the home internationals is the cause of lingering bad feeling too.
I'll be happy to see England do well, but dreading it a tiny bit.
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I think a lot has to do with the media coverage of England in football tournaments .
The rest of the home nations dont get much of a look in.
Some times the media forget that us other nations are there and it does vex us a little
You see, I've always supported England in footy, and Scotland in rugby
However Wales have only played decent footy in the last four years, so they're late to the Duck supporting party
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I have been waiting for this moment all my life .
I have the
sticker book
Manics footy song
Wall chart
New shirt
And made some.welsh footy gingerbread men to take to my nephews in York last week
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By (user no longer on site)
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This will be the first international tournament I'm not supporting England. That's just because Wales will be there.
But I wouldn't cheer on any one just because they're playing england.
I laugh at the Welsh folk who watch the premier league, support and English club, love the English players when they play at club level but then support any one else as long as it's not England at the euros or would cup. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I think a lot has to do with the media coverage of England in football tournaments .
The rest of the home nations dont get much of a look in.
Some times the media forget that us other nations are there and it does vex us a little
There was a story on the news last week apparently some people in Wales complained in Marks and Spencer stores because they had cardboard cut outs of England players on display and no cardboard cut outs of any Welsh players.
That happens all the time though and is the cause of a lot of the anti-English stuff.
It seems petty, but I imagine that if you lived in England, supported England and most of the media coverage and all the adverts were about the Welsh team, there'd be uproar.
It doesn't bother me, but I admit to being a bit grumpy when Emgland knocked us out of a couple of tournaments in recent times and when the finals were on Wayne flipping Rooney was staring at you in every shopping aisle.
Really, it's all to do with an imbalance in the media - it'd be far nicer for English fans if they had a media that was just for them, rather than notionally being for the whole UK (and which understandably features England more and makes the other countries feel like foreigners when playing them). They could go full-on with their support then, like we do in Wales. I'm
a fan of the Union, so prefer reading the London-based press. It is hard sometimes, though.
Imagine a world where Wales won the tournament (I know, I know!) and in England, that's all you heard about for weeks to come. The English would go loopy. That's what we're facing in Wales if England win it! If Wales won it (I know, I know) there'd be little fuss outside of Wales.
The fact England didn't play Wales for many, many years after the end of the home internationals is the cause of lingering bad feeling too.
I'll be happy to see England do well, but dreading it a tiny bit.
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Oh god if we win I am personally changing all the road signs into wales to say
" Welcome to Wales , Croseo I Cymru ,, home.of the Euro 2016 winners " |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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The problem with the M&S story is that they're seeking Nike products, England kit; and not Adidas products, Wales kit.
So they're hardly likely to put up any Welsh players in their stores |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"The problem with the M&S story is that they're seeking Nike products, England kit; and not Adidas products, Wales kit.
So they're hardly likely to put up any Welsh players in their stores "
I am to posh for M&S lol.
So good luck England, but not on the 16th lol.
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By *ost SockMan
over a year ago
West Wales and Cardiff |
""Anyone but England" is in the final today, for that reason I won't be cheering him on. I'm sure he understands the sentiment "
Bit harsh given it was a silly, throwaway comment made to a journalist who'd been repeatedly poking fun at the Scotland team (not hard to do, admittedly) during the interview. Feel free to be outraged though |
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By *ugby 123Couple
over a year ago
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I was always supporting any part of the UK in sport, then I found the internet and saw the vitrol posted against England when they were playing and it did wane a bit.
Then I thought to myself if people in other parts of the UK have that much hate in their bones then maybe they need to look at themselves and why should I be as vindictive as those people so I still support ALL parts of the UK when they are playing sports. |
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By *ugby 123Couple
over a year ago
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""Anyone but England" is in the final today, for that reason I won't be cheering him on. I'm sure he understands the sentiment "
That was all out of context so it seems, he was bantering with Tim Henman over football
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bqQsHBwkDgQ |
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By *olgateMan
over a year ago
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""Anyone but England" is in the final today, for that reason I won't be cheering him on. I'm sure he understands the sentiment
That was all out of context so it seems, he was bantering with Tim Henman over football
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bqQsHBwkDgQ"
It's not the only time he has said it. He changed his tune when it started costing him sponsors |
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By *ugby 123Couple
over a year ago
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"I think a lot has to do with the media coverage of England in football tournaments .
The rest of the home nations dont get much of a look in.
Some times the media forget that us other nations are there and it does vex us a little "
You do have to get to a tournament to be able to be talked about |
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By *ugby 123Couple
over a year ago
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""Anyone but England" is in the final today, for that reason I won't be cheering him on. I'm sure he understands the sentiment
That was all out of context so it seems, he was bantering with Tim Henman over football
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bqQsHBwkDgQ
It's not the only time he has said it. He changed his tune when it started costing him sponsors "
Seriously? |
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""Anyone but England" is in the final today, for that reason I won't be cheering him on. I'm sure he understands the sentiment
That was all out of context so it seems, he was bantering with Tim Henman over football
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bqQsHBwkDgQ
It's not the only time he has said it. He changed his tune when it started costing him sponsors "
A lot of the anti-Scots rhetoric probably annoys him. |
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By *ost SockMan
over a year ago
West Wales and Cardiff |
"I was always supporting any part of the UK in sport, then I found the internet and saw the vitrol posted against England when they were playing and it did wane a bit.
Then I thought to myself if people in other parts of the UK have that much hate in their bones then maybe they need to look at themselves and why should I be as vindictive as those people so I still support ALL parts of the UK when they are playing sports. "
I agree that's bad.
If you think that England supporters don't dish it out too though, you're sadly mistaken. I've experienced it plenty of times myself. I even know an English guy living in Wales who was beaten senseless by England fans because they mistakenly thought he was a "Welsh c**t".
The Celts have plenty to answer for on this, but it's not all one way, by any means.
It's just the classic imbalanced rivalry. We desperately want to beat the big guys i.e. England and want the rivalry to matter. The English don't give a monkeys about that and are too busy hating the Germans. Classic sporting nonsense basically. |
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By *ikeC81Man
over a year ago
harrow |
Well even if England got knocked out - I would not support another home countries team
I have friends that are Welsh and northern Irish but they are the same they said that wouldn't support England
And for that lot north of the border - we all going to be having a party in France - pleasure take out the bins, do the washing, and act miserable  .
If Scotland were the only home country to qualify I would not support them - no way I'd anything I would want them to loose and be a laughing stock lol
Yes I am being bitter, but yes I am going -
Bags are packed shirts are ready. !!!!! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Couldn't give a flying fuck about any of it.
Only difference is Rugby requires balls and they aren't extras for Eastenders.
If you want to see real balls then the TT thread is over there..... |
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By *ugby 123Couple
over a year ago
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"I was always supporting any part of the UK in sport, then I found the internet and saw the vitrol posted against England when they were playing and it did wane a bit.
Then I thought to myself if people in other parts of the UK have that much hate in their bones then maybe they need to look at themselves and why should I be as vindictive as those people so I still support ALL parts of the UK when they are playing sports.
I agree that's bad.
If you think that England supporters don't dish it out too though, you're sadly mistaken. I've experienced it plenty of times myself. I even know an English guy living in Wales who was beaten senseless by England fans because they mistakenly thought he was a "Welsh c**t".
The Celts have plenty to answer for on this, but it's not all one way, by any means.
It's just the classic imbalanced rivalry. We desperately want to beat the big guys i.e. England and want the rivalry to matter. The English don't give a monkeys about that and are too busy hating the Germans. Classic sporting nonsense basically."
I wasn't talking about violent idiots at football matches, I am sure there are lots of them about from all teams.
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By *ikeC81Man
over a year ago
harrow |
"Anyhow, I hope we can get over all this and just enjoy it all.
Sadly, I fear the worst for the Eng v Wales game in terms of the fans. I just can't see how it will pass off peacefully."
Hmmmm well lens is not a big town either - most fans are staying in Lille and travelling in
The fan park is only going to be for ticket holders only and that's 10,000 rumours are 120,000 are coming over
It will be HEAVALY policed from the information I have got through official channels (and some unofficial)
It will be lively don't get me wrong - but I am hoping for peaceful banter (or peaceful laughing at the Welsh) |
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By *ikeC81Man
over a year ago
harrow |
"Anyhow, I hope we can get over all this and just enjoy it all.
Sadly, I fear the worst for the Eng v Wales game in terms of the fans. I just can't see how it will pass off peacefully.
Hmmmm well lens is not a big town either - most fans are staying in Lille and travelling in
The fan park is only going to be for ticket holders only and that's 10,000 rumours are 120,000 are coming over
It will be HEAVALY policed from the information I have got through official channels (and some unofficial)
It will be lively don't get me wrong - but I am hoping for peaceful banter (or peaceful laughing at the Welsh) "
Though I think a lot will depend what happens in the first game from the English point of view in Marseille.
England didn't have a good time of it there back in 98 and it depends how many locals will be out for a bit of retribution. Also the Russians may want a piece of it also.
I am hoping it goes of peafully just as a England fan reputation. |
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Cant stand football,so wouldn't be watching any of it.I have more important thing to do in my life,like sorting my toe nail clipping into order. Think by now you know I hate bloody football.Come on the Swingers |
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By *ost SockMan
over a year ago
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"I was always supporting any part of the UK in sport, then I found the internet and saw the vitrol posted against England when they were playing and it did wane a bit.
Then I thought to myself if people in other parts of the UK have that much hate in their bones then maybe they need to look at themselves and why should I be as vindictive as those people so I still support ALL parts of the UK when they are playing sports.
I agree that's bad.
If you think that England supporters don't dish it out too though, you're sadly mistaken. I've experienced it plenty of times myself. I even know an English guy living in Wales who was beaten senseless by England fans because they mistakenly thought he was a "Welsh c**t".
The Celts have plenty to answer for on this, but it's not all one way, by any means.
It's just the classic imbalanced rivalry. We desperately want to beat the big guys i.e. England and want the rivalry to matter. The English don't give a monkeys about that and are too busy hating the Germans. Classic sporting nonsense basically.
I wasn't talking about violent idiots at football matches, I am sure there are lots of them about from all teams.
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No, fair enough. But there's plenty of deragotary, unwelcome stuff coming the other way too.
Try going to Twickenham in a Welsh shirt and listen to the Barbour jacket brigade mouthing off. There's low level sneering coming back the other way too.
I'm completely agreed the Celts can be bad. I just can't agree when the English are painted as Saints in all of this.
Seriously, a lot of it goes back to the media. Years spent watching football focus, when there'd be endless stuff about England, then the presenter would say "the other home nations are also in action this weekend". Every time.
Watch an England v Wales game on Sky and you feel like a foreigner.
I actually understand it, as the media have to play to their core audience, but it does fuel a feeling of "not belonging" among many.
Like I said, if you can persuade me that the population of England will be happy being deluged with about Wales's miracle championship win all day every day for a few weeks, I'll shut up. That's what we're facing if England win. |
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I love all of the home countries and friendly rivalries aside I will be cheering just as hard for Wales and Ireland over their time in the competition, long may it continue. |
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By *ugby 123Couple
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No, fair enough. But there's plenty of deragotary, unwelcome stuff coming the other way too.
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You are missing my point, the point I was making was not between rival fans at a football/ cricket match. It was the hate that is aimed at parts of the UK whether they are sports fans or not |
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Wales first always, as is my home, and that is where my loyalty and my heart belongs.
Then, if they are knocked out, whatever home nation happens to be doing the best. |
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No, fair enough. But there's plenty of deragotary, unwelcome stuff coming the other way too.
You are missing my point, the point I was making was not between rival fans at a football/ cricket match. It was the hate that is aimed at parts of the UK whether they are sports fans or not"
I think often it's a case of one reaps what one sows. |
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By *ugby 123Couple
over a year ago
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No, fair enough. But there's plenty of deragotary, unwelcome stuff coming the other way too.
You are missing my point, the point I was making was not between rival fans at a football/ cricket match. It was the hate that is aimed at parts of the UK whether they are sports fans or not
I think often it's a case of one reaps what one sows. "
So all the hate that is spouted because Football focus doesn't mention Wales enough is a good enough reason to spout so much hate at people who have no control over that ?
As I said in my first post, I think the people who have so much hate in their bones need to take a long hard look at themselves |
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No, fair enough. But there's plenty of deragotary, unwelcome stuff coming the other way too.
You are missing my point, the point I was making was not between rival fans at a football/ cricket match. It was the hate that is aimed at parts of the UK whether they are sports fans or not
I think often it's a case of one reaps what one sows.
So all the hate that is spouted because Football focus doesn't mention Wales enough is a good enough reason to spout so much hate at people who have no control over that ?
As I said in my first post, I think the people who have so much hate in their bones need to take a long hard look at themselves "
No, I'm thinking about a lot of the political rhetoric. Take the anti-Scots hatred being spouted by our current government and its supporters just last year at the GE.
They switch it on to win votes but they don't do anything to turn it off and so there's a backlash. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"I was always supporting any part of the UK in sport, then I found the internet and saw the vitrol posted against England when they were playing and it did wane a bit.
Then I thought to myself if people in other parts of the UK have that much hate in their bones then maybe they need to look at themselves and why should I be as vindictive as those people so I still support ALL parts of the UK when they are playing sports.
I agree that's bad.
If you think that England supporters don't dish it out too though, you're sadly mistaken. I've experienced it plenty of times myself. I even know an English guy living in Wales who was beaten senseless by England fans because they mistakenly thought he was a "Welsh c**t".
The Celts have plenty to answer for on this, but it's not all one way, by any means.
It's just the classic imbalanced rivalry. We desperately want to beat the big guys i.e. England and want the rivalry to matter. The English don't give a monkeys about that and are too busy hating the Germans. Classic sporting nonsense basically.
I wasn't talking about violent idiots at football matches, I am sure there are lots of them about from all teams.
No, fair enough. But there's plenty of deragotary, unwelcome stuff coming the other way too.
Try going to Twickenham in a Welsh shirt and listen to the Barbour jacket brigade mouthing off. There's low level sneering coming back the other way too.
I'm completely agreed the Celts can be bad. I just can't agree when the English are painted as Saints in all of this.
Seriously, a lot of it goes back to the media. Years spent watching football focus, when there'd be endless stuff about England, then the presenter would say "the other home nations are also in action this weekend". Every time.
Watch an England v Wales game on Sky and you feel like a foreigner.
I actually understand it, as the media have to play to their core audience, but it does fuel a feeling of "not belonging" among many.
Like I said, if you can persuade me that the population of England will be happy being deluged with about Wales's miracle championship win all day every day for a few weeks, I'll shut up. That's what we're facing if England win. "
Your argument falls down though, in that the Scottish and Welsh Regional BBC channels focus on their games first
You hardly get a look in at the English premiership, if you're watching in Scotland.
Have you ever watched a match between Connah's Quay Nomads and Bala Town ?
The same goes for any international.
And quite right too |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I'm supporting England and Wales in the Euros ... gonna be difficult when they play each other !
I'm English but my fav player plays for Wales (and Leicester)
I will be in Scotland when England and Wales play each other ... that could be interesting |
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"As an England supporter who champions all the home nations I love the idea that Scotland fans choose to support England's opponents.....
But I genuinely wish Scotland had qualified....
I love seeing the pride and passion of the tartan army in full voice...
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I agree wholeheartedly |
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By *elnkazCouple
over a year ago
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As a proud Scot now residing in England, I have no problem supporting England in fact I've tipped them to win it. What drives most Scots mad is the way the English media hype the team up as the best the world has ever seen then hammer then when they get beat. |
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"As a proud Scot now residing in England, I have no problem supporting England in fact I've tipped them to win it. What drives most Scots mad is the way the English media hype the team up as the best the world has ever seen then hammer then when they get beat. "
The english press are gobshites |
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"if you're watching in Scotland.
Have you ever watched a match between Connah's Quay Nomads and Bala Town ?
The same goes for any international.
And quite right too "
Watched it on telly I was at the game |
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"As a proud Scot now residing in England, I have no problem supporting England in fact I've tipped them to win it. What drives most Scots mad is the way the English media hype the team up as the best the world has ever seen then hammer then when they get beat. "
Exactly - Even from "national" press and media outlets! Good luck to them.
OP, as it happens I don't give a fuck who wins since the Mighty Scotland elected not to compete this time round |
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"I wish the Scots were in, I love it when they turn up in kilts and how they sing their mational anthem 
I have a Welsh kilt
We need pics or it isn't true "
just uploading them now |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Our footballers tend to be a bunch of overpaid, under passionate tossers, so no, I feel no desire to follow, support and least of all cheer for our football team, they don't represent me or my views in any fashion. |
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By *ugby 123Couple
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"I wish the Scots were in, I love it when they turn up in kilts and how they sing their mational anthem
I have a Welsh kilt
We need pics or it isn't true
just uploading them now "
I love kilts |
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"I wish the Scots were in, I love it when they turn up in kilts and how they sing their mational anthem
I have a Welsh kilt
We need pics or it isn't true
just uploading them now
I love kilts "
in my profile if you care to peek |
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