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Yes it is frowned upon. However, you dress it up, cheating is cheating.
However, some people will meet married men, so all is not lost for you.
Reading your profile though, for most people, this is not a sex site. It is a swingers site. Both very different things. |
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"I've noticed on here, there is more acceptability for the woman to cheat but not on the man. The double standard is annoying. "
I won't meet anyone cheating, regardless of their gender.
However, I think there is more acceptability because you don't get many women trying to publicly justify why they are cheating compared to men. The OP a case in point.
Also it probably comes down to a numbers game too, there isn't many women about, so they will be excused behaviours that men won't. |
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over a year ago
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"Isn't it cheating to get married under false pretences?
So be a man and do something about it !!!! Marriage isn't just about sex "
I thought people got married because they didn't like using condoms..  |
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"I've noticed on here, there is more acceptability for the woman to cheat but not on the man. The double standard is annoying.
I won't meet anyone cheating, regardless of their gender.
However, I think there is more acceptability because you don't get many women trying to publicly justify why they are cheating compared to men. The OP a case in point.
Also it probably comes down to a numbers game too, there isn't many women about, so they will be excused behaviours that men won't. "
See the double standard and it's bollocks. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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I am doing something about it. The only part of my life that isn't brilliant is my sex life and that's why I'm here. I don't want to go out getting pissed and meet some in a bar I just want to meet somebody in a similar position. I've tried for over 4 years to get things right at home and it ain't happening she needs female viagra or something |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I've noticed on here, there is more acceptability for the woman to cheat but not on the man. The double standard is annoying.
I won't meet anyone cheating, regardless of their gender.
However, I think there is more acceptability because you don't get many women trying to publicly justify why they are cheating compared to men. The OP a case in point.
Also it probably comes down to a numbers game too, there isn't many women about, so they will be excused behaviours that men won't.
See the double standard and it's bollocks."
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"I am doing something about it. The only part of my life that isn't brilliant is my sex life and that's why I'm here. I don't want to go out getting pissed and meet some in a bar I just want to meet somebody in a similar position. I've tried for over 4 years to get things right at home and it ain't happening she needs female viagra or something "
You really are an horrid person aren't you!!!! |
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"I am doing something about it. The only part of my life that isn't brilliant is my sex life and that's why I'm here. I don't want to go out getting pissed and meet some in a bar I just want to meet somebody in a similar position. I've tried for over 4 years to get things right at home and it ain't happening she needs female viagra or something "
Try romance... You know massages, nice dinner, compliments, some champagne maybe flowers.
I heard that works  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Some people just don't want to change and expect it all their way but bitch when you you demand they pull their weight. My last relationship was like that and she admitted over reflection that she fucked it up.
It's all about compromise, if ones refuses then do what you wish. If they bitch, their fault. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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I think you are though by the way. How very judgemental from someone on a sex hookup site I'm truly flabagasted! Im really happy for you that you have a healthy sex drive but not everybody does and they literally pretend to for years then they get that ring on... |
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"I am doing something about it. The only part of my life that isn't brilliant is my sex life and that's why I'm here. I don't want to go out getting pissed and meet some in a bar I just want to meet somebody in a similar position. I've tried for over 4 years to get things right at home and it ain't happening she needs female viagra or something "
Try talking to your wife about your sex life, if that is the part that is lacking. Be spontaneous, surprise her, treat her, help her feel more relaxed. I don't know either of you personally but your wife may feel there are unobtainable expectations and this may be hindering any hope of romance in the bedroom. Above all show some compassion and a little sensitivity when broaching the subject with your wife. |
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"I think you are though by the way. How very judgemental from someone on a sex hookup site I'm truly flabagasted! Im really happy for you that you have a healthy sex drive but not everybody does and they literally pretend to for years then they get that ring on..."
and I think you haven't a clue what this site is and what swinging is about !!! That's probably why no one wants to meet you good luck you will need it
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"It's about fucking love. Fabswingers got invaded years ago get used to it sweetheart "
I assume you are replying to me (see how I used the quote feature, so you know I'm replying to you), I don't agree. I use this as a swinging site, and so do most of the people I know. I've been swinging for many years. Swinging, not getting a quick fuck because I can't be arsed to make an effort with my significant other. |
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"True ?? and I'm not a loser cocker sorry to disappoint you ??"
you cleary are your here to cheat on your wife because you can't get your end away that's not a nice bloke is it  |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"I am doing something about it. The only part of my life that isn't brilliant is my sex life and that's why I'm here. I don't want to go out getting pissed and meet some in a bar I just want to meet somebody in a similar position. I've tried for over 4 years to get things right at home and it ain't happening she needs female viagra or something
Try talking to your wife about your sex life, if that is the part that is lacking. Be spontaneous, surprise her, treat her, help her feel more relaxed. I don't know either of you personally but your wife may feel there are unobtainable expectations and this may be hindering any hope of romance in the bedroom. Above all show some compassion and a little sensitivity when broaching the subject with your wife. "
tried all that for 4 years, had enough now. Just don't want to upset the kids |
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By (user no longer on site)
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I can't sympathise or empathise with you. You've asked for people's opinions and the general view on here, yet insult anybody who disagrees with your logic. You blame it all on your wife and fail to recognise that the problem may not be with your wife, but with yourself.
Yummy and Redangel are right, your moral compass is questionable and you should reflect upon your own actions before blaming your wife. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Lmao yes by cheating losers like you
I've been cheated on, what does that make me? Cheated on as I refused to get her pregnant "
And you know how it feels so why would you make people feel that way  |
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over a year ago
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"Is it frowned upon on here even when the guy is only doing it because his wife changed as soon as the ring was on? "
most brides will change into an evening dress its hardly a reason to cheat on her   |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"True ?? and I'm not a loser cocker sorry to disappoint you ?? you cleary are your here to cheat on your wife because you can't get your end away that's not a nice bloke is it "
how would you know? All you can do is assume based on a forum post, hmmmmm |
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"True ?? and I'm not a loser cocker sorry to disappoint you ?? you cleary are your here to cheat on your wife because you can't get your end away that's not a nice bloke is it how would you know? All you can do is assume based on a forum post, hmmmmm "
or your profits which you write you want to cheat on !!! Not too clever are we |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"I can't sympathise or empathise with you. You've asked for people's opinions and the general view on here, yet insult anybody who disagrees with your logic. You blame it all on your wife and fail to recognise that the problem may not be with your wife, but with yourself.
Yummy and Redangel are right, your moral compass is questionable and you should reflect upon your own actions before blaming your wife. "
who have I insulted on here? |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"True ?? and I'm not a loser cocker sorry to disappoint you ?? you cleary are your here to cheat on your wife because you can't get your end away that's not a nice bloke is it how would you know? All you can do is assume based on a forum post, hmmmmm or your profits which you write you want to cheat on !!! Not too???? clever are we "
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By *uxom redCouple
over a year ago
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"I am doing something about it. The only part of my life that isn't brilliant is my sex life and that's why I'm here. I don't want to go out getting pissed and meet some in a bar I just want to meet somebody in a similar position. I've tried for over 4 years to get things right at home and it ain't happening she needs female viagra or something
Try talking to your wife about your sex life, if that is the part that is lacking. Be spontaneous, surprise her, treat her, help her feel more relaxed. I don't know either of you personally but your wife may feel there are unobtainable expectations and this may be hindering any hope of romance in the bedroom. Above all show some compassion and a little sensitivity when broaching the subject with your wife. tried all that for 4 years, had enough now. Just don't want to upset the kids "
Staying together for the sake of the children doesn't work. It does more damage in the long run!
Why is it men always blame a lack of females sex drive as a 'reason' to cheat? Ever thought there is a reason she doesn't want sex...
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"I can't sympathise or empathise with you. You've asked for people's opinions and the general view on here, yet insult anybody who disagrees with your logic. You blame it all on your wife and fail to recognise that the problem may not be with your wife, but with yourself.
Yummy and Redangel are right, your moral compass is questionable and you should reflect upon your own actions before blaming your wife. who have I insulted on here? "
It appears from your earlier posts, prior to the quotes, that you were calling yummy a horrid, judgemental person based on her opinion on the matter and her opinion of you as a person. And the condescending tone of the post regarding "it's about fucking love. Fabswingers was invaded long ago get used to it sweetheart" Yes I assume you mean it in that manner, I may be mistaken. I am also assuming that, as you've been on here for over a year, that your efforts and attention may have been diverted elsewhere, a shift that is noticed by your significant partner if it happens. |
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"I am doing something about it. The only part of my life that isn't brilliant is my sex life and that's why I'm here. I don't want to go out getting pissed and meet some in a bar I just want to meet somebody in a similar position. I've tried for over 4 years to get things right at home and it ain't happening she needs female viagra or something
Try talking to your wife about your sex life, if that is the part that is lacking. Be spontaneous, surprise her, treat her, help her feel more relaxed. I don't know either of you personally but your wife may feel there are unobtainable expectations and this may be hindering any hope of romance in the bedroom. Above all show some compassion and a little sensitivity when broaching the subject with your wife. tried all that for 4 years, had enough now. Just don't want to upset the kids
Staying together for the sake of the children doesn't work. It does more damage in the long run!
Why is it men always blame a lack of females sex drive as a 'reason' to cheat? Ever thought there is a reason she doesn't want sex...
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Don't ask him things like that he hasn't an answer for that it's all his poor wife's fault he's blameless the poor little fellow |
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"I am doing something about it. The only part of my life that isn't brilliant is my sex life and that's why I'm here. I don't want to go out getting pissed and meet some in a bar I just want to meet somebody in a similar position. I've tried for over 4 years to get things right at home and it ain't happening she needs female viagra or something
Try talking to your wife about your sex life, if that is the part that is lacking. Be spontaneous, surprise her, treat her, help her feel more relaxed. I don't know either of you personally but your wife may feel there are unobtainable expectations and this may be hindering any hope of romance in the bedroom. Above all show some compassion and a little sensitivity when broaching the subject with your wife. tried all that for 4 years, had enough now. Just don't want to upset the kids
Staying together for the sake of the children doesn't work. It does more damage in the long run!
Why is it men always blame a lack of females sex drive as a 'reason' to cheat? Ever thought there is a reason she doesn't want sex...
Don't ask him things like that he hasn't an answer for that it's all his poor wife's fault he's blameless the poor little fellow "
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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Yeah cause I'm fit she wanted me but wasn't that into sex and so she pretended just to "get me" in get words. When she got our baby she admitted it was mission accomplished. She just wanted a good looking kid and with me that was guaranteed |
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By *uxom redCouple
over a year ago
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"Yeah cause I'm fit she wanted me but wasn't that into sex and so she pretended just to "get me" in get words. When she got our baby she admitted it was mission accomplished. She just wanted a good looking kid and with me that was guaranteed "
Ffs your 39 stop acting like a stroppy teenager and take some responsibility. If your marriage is that bad do something about it.
Don't come on a swinging site and play the look at me my wife give me no sex, then write a thread on how poor done by it you are.
It's not an attractive quality.
A swinging site is more than likely not the site for you, try a dating one.
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By (user no longer on site)
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Unless it is an open relationship where both parties have agreed it is ok to do then it is fine.
If your gf/wife suddenly changes it is a bit of a dick thing to do to go looking elswhere.
I have had a similar thing happen where an ex told me she didnt like sex anymore. I stayed by her, although I didnt come across as supporting her decision at first ( I only asked the questions any one would of done) I came to accept it .
Rather than focus on elsewhere, work on making her feel the way she used to be.
Im prob talking shite as usual but |
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"Yeah cause I'm fit she wanted me but wasn't that into sex and so she pretended just to "get me" in get words. When she got our baby she admitted it was mission accomplished. She just wanted a good looking kid and with me that was guaranteed "
So much bitterness from a man who earlier in the thread said other than sexually his relationship was "brilliant" |
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"Yeah cause I'm fit she wanted me but wasn't that into sex and so she pretended just to "get me" in get words. When she got our baby she admitted it was mission accomplished. She just wanted a good looking kid and with me that was guaranteed "
Thankyou for giving me something to giggle at  |
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"Yes it is frowned upon. However, you dress it up, cheating is cheating.
However, some people will meet married men, so all is not lost for you.
Reading your profile though, for most people, this is not a sex site. It is a swingers site. Both very different things. "
Really? Help a brother out: https://m.fabswingers.com/forum/swingers/511963 I get slated for trying to make the same point! |
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"I've noticed on here, there is more acceptability for the woman to cheat but not on the man. The double standard is annoying.
I won't meet anyone cheating, regardless of their gender.
However, I think there is more acceptability because you don't get many women trying to publicly justify why they are cheating compared to men. The OP a case in point.
Also it probably comes down to a numbers game too, there isn't many women about, so they will be excused behaviours that men won't.
See the double standard and it's bollocks.
Women have all pussy and all the power "
Should have married an Asian bro |
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"Is it frowned upon on here even when the guy is only doing it because his wife changed as soon as the ring was on? "
If only married people would just get on with it and not justify their actions by proportioning blame to their spouses!  |
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"I've noticed on here, there is more acceptability for the woman to cheat but not on the man. The double standard is annoying.
I won't meet anyone cheating, regardless of their gender.
However, I think there is more acceptability because you don't get many women trying to publicly justify why they are cheating compared to men. The OP a case in point.
Also it probably comes down to a numbers game too, there isn't many women about, so they will be excused behaviours that men won't. "
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Married or not doesn't really bother me . I want sex not a relationship. I keep an open mind about things ad there's always a story to tell as to why people are her. After all I have my own story too |
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"I am doing something about it. The only part of my life that isn't brilliant is my sex life and that's why I'm here. I don't want to go out getting pissed and meet some in a bar I just want to meet somebody in a similar position. I've tried for over 4 years to get things right at home and it ain't happening she needs female viagra or something "
Good grief! |
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Really? Help a brother out: https://m.fabswingers.com/forum/swingers/511963 I get slated for trying to make the same point! "
Yeah, but those Swinger forums are a much tougher crowd
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OP: You have it on your profile, that's all you need. For some people it will rule you out, for others it won't - just like all preferences.
Oh, and learn to NEVER mention it on the forums again
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"I am doing something about it. The only part of my life that isn't brilliant is my sex life and that's why I'm here. I don't want to go out getting pissed and meet some in a bar I just want to meet somebody in a similar position. I've tried for over 4 years to get things right at home and it ain't happening she needs female viagra or something
Try talking to your wife about your sex life, if that is the part that is lacking. Be spontaneous, surprise her, treat her, help her feel more relaxed. I don't know either of you personally but your wife may feel there are unobtainable expectations and this may be hindering any hope of romance in the bedroom. Above all show some compassion and a little sensitivity when broaching the subject with your wife. tried all that for 4 years, had enough now. Just don't want to upset the kids
Staying together for the sake of the children doesn't work. It does more damage in the long run!
Why is it men always blame a lack of females sex drive as a 'reason' to cheat? Ever thought there is a reason she doesn't want sex...
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Really? Help a brother out: https://m.fabswingers.com/forum/swingers/511963 I get slated for trying to make the same point!
Yeah, but those Swinger forums are a much tougher crowd
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OP: You have it on your profile, that's all you need. For some people it will rule you out, for others it won't - just like all preferences.
Oh, and learn to NEVER mention it on the forums again
Mr ddc"
Whatever your point is, it'll be better received if you have tits |
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"In my experience when women you're in a r ship with suddenly don't want sex it usually means they are fucking someone else maybe you should check that"
In all your 30 yrs experience eh? Women stop having sex for a number of reasons and not a lot are to do with having an affair |
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"I am doing something about it. The only part of my life that isn't brilliant is my sex life and that's why I'm here. I don't want to go out getting pissed and meet some in a bar I just want to meet somebody in a similar position. I've tried for over 4 years to get things right at home and it ain't happening she needs female viagra or something
You really are an horrid person aren't you!!!! "
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Whilst the 'good looking baby' comment was quite funny, I'm not exactly sure why the OP was getting slated long before that? He did say he'd been trying to fix things for 4 years and all the semi-constructive advice was basically 'try more'.
It's not so unreasonable for a husband to want poontang and since his wife is well aware that he ain't getting it from her then she really should consider where else his carnal needs might be satisfied. |
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Some men cheat and some women cheat,
They get a buzz or fulfillment from it, is it right or wrong? well thats open to all opinions. Some ppl say what the head doesnt know the heart doesnt grieve im not justifying either side behaviour but its human behaviour in some and not others |
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"Some men cheat and some women cheat,
They get a buzz or fulfillment from it, is it right or wrong? well thats open to all opinions. Some ppl say what the head doesnt know the heart doesnt grieve im not justifying either side behaviour but its human behaviour in some and not others "
It's done by 60-70% of spouses at some point in the marriage if you believe the stats. |
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"Whilst the 'good looking baby' comment was quite funny, I'm not exactly sure why the OP was getting slated long before that? He did say he'd been trying to fix things for 4 years and all the semi-constructive advice was basically 'try more'.
It's not so unreasonable for a husband to want poontang and since his wife is well aware that he ain't getting it from her then she really should consider where else his carnal needs might be satisfied. "
What would everyone else do in the same position.
Stay put...find some fun on the side...or leave. |
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If i have married and the relationship is exclusive no matter what happened i would not go elsewhere. Why commit to someone if you do not plan on taking on the hard times aswell. Op needs to re-evaluate his own head imo. If the rest of the relationship is fine and you dun wanna leave then grow up and deal with that... |
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"Whilst the 'good looking baby' comment was quite funny, I'm not exactly sure why the OP was getting slated long before that? He did say he'd been trying to fix things for 4 years and all the semi-constructive advice was basically 'try more'.
It's not so unreasonable for a husband to want poontang and since his wife is well aware that he ain't getting it from her then she really should consider where else his carnal needs might be satisfied.
What would everyone else do in the same position.
Stay put...find some fun on the side...or leave."
Sounds like a title for a new thread |
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"I've noticed on here, there is more acceptability for the woman to cheat but not on the man. The double standard is annoying. "
There isn't enough single women on here to be holding cheating against them  |
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"Whilst the 'good looking baby' comment was quite funny, I'm not exactly sure why the OP was getting slated long before that? He did say he'd been trying to fix things for 4 years and all the semi-constructive advice was basically 'try more'.
It's not so unreasonable for a husband to want poontang and since his wife is well aware that he ain't getting it from her then she really should consider where else his carnal needs might be satisfied.
What would everyone else do in the same position.
Stay put...find some fun on the side...or leave."
If it was me I'd suggest to my partner that we had an open marriage where we could both meet other people as I still needed sex and you never know it could be that your partner has just gone off sex with you rather than off sex although, if they didn't agree to that I would leave |
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"I've noticed on here, there is more acceptability for the woman to cheat but not on the man. The double standard is annoying.
I won't meet anyone cheating, regardless of their gender.
However, I think there is more acceptability because you don't get many women trying to publicly justify why they are cheating compared to men. The OP a case in point.
Also it probably comes down to a numbers game too, there isn't many women about, so they will be excused behaviours that men won't.
See the double standard and it's bollocks.
Women have all pussy and all the power
Should have married an Asian bro"
I almost did.... But she ask me to sign a prenup |
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"I've noticed on here, there is more acceptability for the woman to cheat but not on the man. The double standard is annoying.
I won't meet anyone cheating, regardless of their gender.
However, I think there is more acceptability because you don't get many women trying to publicly justify why they are cheating compared to men. The OP a case in point.
Also it probably comes down to a numbers game too, there isn't many women about, so they will be excused behaviours that men won't.
See the double standard and it's bollocks.
Women have all pussy and all the power
Should have married an Asian bro
I almost did.... But she ask me to sign a prenup "
Is that a bad thing? |
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"I've noticed on here, there is more acceptability for the woman to cheat but not on the man. The double standard is annoying. "
That is right, the majority of times, it is more acceptable that a woman cheat here as she will get all praises and understanding.
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"I've noticed on here, there is more acceptability for the woman to cheat but not on the man. The double standard is annoying. "
Same in the real world. If a woman cheats it's because her man is a bastard and she needs attention, if a man cheats he's a selfish bastard an should be honest to his wife. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I've noticed on here, there is more acceptability for the woman to cheat but not on the man. The double standard is annoying.
Same in the real world. If a woman cheats it's because her man is a bastard and she needs attention, if a man cheats he's a selfish bastard an should be honest to his wife."
So there you have it,all men are bastards,so all you women go to a lesbian site |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Fab thread delivers once again!
Woman gets married to a knob just so she can have a good looking baby?
Just brilliant. "
I know and I said that without a hint of irony |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I've noticed on here, there is more acceptability for the woman to cheat but not on the man. The double standard is annoying.
I won't meet anyone cheating, regardless of their gender.
However, I think there is more acceptability because you don't get many women trying to publicly justify why they are cheating compared to men. The OP a case in point.
Also it probably comes down to a numbers game too, there isn't many women about, so they will be excused behaviours that men won't.
See the double standard and it's bollocks.
Women have all pussy and all the power
Should have married an Asian bro
I almost did.... But she ask me to sign a prenup
Is that a bad thing? "
Yes, her family was loaded and she was a only child
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Whilst the 'good looking baby' comment was quite funny, I'm not exactly sure why the OP was getting slated long before that? He did say he'd been trying to fix things for 4 years and all the semi-constructive advice was basically 'try more'.
It's not so unreasonable for a husband to want poontang and since his wife is well aware that he ain't getting it from her then she really should consider where else his carnal needs might be satisfied.
What would everyone else do in the same position.
Stay put...find some fun on the side...or leave.
If it was me I'd suggest to my partner that we had an open marriage where we could both meet other people as I still needed sex and you never know it could be that your partner has just gone off sex with you rather than off sex although, if they didn't agree to that I would leave "
That's exactly what I did xxx |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I've noticed on here, there is more acceptability for the woman to cheat but not on the man. The double standard is annoying.
I won't meet anyone cheating, regardless of their gender.
However, I think there is more acceptability because you don't get many women trying to publicly justify why they are cheating compared to men. The OP a case in point.
Also it probably comes down to a numbers game too, there isn't many women about, so they will be excused behaviours that men won't.
See the double standard and it's bollocks.
Women have all pussy and all the power
Should have married an Asian bro
I almost did.... But she ask me to sign a prenup
Is that a bad thing?
Yes, her family was loaded and she was a only child
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OK and this was a problem because you actually wanted to kill them and live a singleton life of luxury on a Cuban beach? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I've noticed on here, there is more acceptability for the woman to cheat but not on the man. The double standard is annoying.
I won't meet anyone cheating, regardless of their gender.
However, I think there is more acceptability because you don't get many women trying to publicly justify why they are cheating compared to men. The OP a case in point.
Also it probably comes down to a numbers game too, there isn't many women about, so they will be excused behaviours that men won't.
See the double standard and it's bollocks.
Women have all pussy and all the power
Should have married an Asian bro
I almost did.... But she ask me to sign a prenup
Is that a bad thing?
Yes, her family was loaded and she was a only child
OK and this was a problem because you actually wanted to kill them and live a singleton life of luxury on a Cuban beach? "
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