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By *B9 Queen OP Woman
over a year ago
Over the rainbow, under the bridge |
You are a single parent with a sick child. You're skint but have no food in. Neither of you have had a good meal in 2 days.
You see a pensioner drop £10 in the street. They haven't noticed and no one else is around.
What do you do? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Give the money back.
And go home to a sick, hungry child?
Shouldn't have left the child home alone
Lol a neighbour was looking after the child. "
Well , sneak into the neighbors whilst they are baby sitting for you and raid their fridge  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Give the money back.
And go home to a sick, hungry child?
Shouldn't have left the child home alone
Lol a neighbour was looking after the child. "
Maybe she will feed he  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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That is a dilemma sure enough, and if it happened today, after seeing my son polishing off carrot sticks with a home made salsa dip, and knowing I have a freezer full of food, I'd give it back.
If it was just me who was hungry, I'd give it back.
But there's no way in the world I would let my child go hungry, my kids come before everyone and everything on this planet, so I'd take the money, with a view of giving it back if I could find a way to do so |
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By *B9 Queen OP Woman
over a year ago
Over the rainbow, under the bridge |
"Give the money back.
And go home to a sick, hungry child?
Shouldn't have left the child home alone
Lol a neighbour was looking after the child.
Maybe she will feed he "
No they're cracking heads. They never have any food in.  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Give the money back.
And go home to a sick, hungry child?
Shouldn't have left the child home alone
Lol a neighbour was looking after the child.
Well , sneak into the neighbors whilst they are baby sitting for you and raid their fridge "
Isn't that stealing  |
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By *B9 Queen OP Woman
over a year ago
Over the rainbow, under the bridge |
"Give the money back.
And go home to a sick, hungry child?
Shouldn't have left the child home alone
Lol a neighbour was looking after the child.
Maybe she will feed he
No they're cracking heads. They never have any food in. "
*crack |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Give the money back.
And go home to a sick, hungry child?
Shouldn't have left the child home alone
Lol a neighbour was looking after the child.
Maybe she will feed he
No they're cracking heads. They never have any food in. "
You left you kid with crack heads, what the hell mother are you |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Give the money back.
And go home to a sick, hungry child?
Shouldn't have left the child home alone
Lol a neighbour was looking after the child. "
Give it back.....could be a millionaire doing a test....they then give you £100 reward for being a decent person! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Give the money back.
And go home to a sick, hungry child?"
Obviously would have to find a way to feed said sick child but not by stealing money from a pentioner. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Give the money back. Would only invite more bad karma to effectively steal from someone else. There are plenty of people in the world who would help feed a sick hungry child if asked |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Give the money back.
And go home to a sick, hungry child?
Obviously would have to find a way to feed said sick child but not by stealing money from a pentioner."
Pensioner |
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I dont think its necessary to have no food in to the point of a child going hungry. There are food banks. You dont just have a cupboard stocked with food one day and none the next. You didnt say why theyhad no food but im guessing it wasnt because they dropped the last £10 which could be the case for the pensioner.
Also who is at home with the sick child |
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"I dont think its necessary to have no food in to the point of a child going hungry. There are food banks. You dont just have a cupboard stocked with food one day and none the next. You didnt say why theyhad no food but im guessing it wasnt because they dropped the last £10 which could be the case for the pensioner.
Also who is at home with the sick child"
Some drug addicts I think |
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By *B9 Queen OP Woman
over a year ago
Over the rainbow, under the bridge |
"I dont think its necessary to have no food in to the point of a child going hungry. There are food banks. You dont just have a cupboard stocked with food one day and none the next. You didnt say why theyhad no food but im guessing it wasnt because they dropped the last £10 which could be the case for the pensioner.
Also who is at home with the sick child"
It's not real. It's a dilemma. Which is the right thing to do.
Or in other words if you had no other option would you steal to feed your sick child? |
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By *B9 Queen OP Woman
over a year ago
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"What would you do Op ?
Excellent parenting btw letting a child go sick, hungry and left with crack heads. Sadly this is reality in some cases.  "
This isn't that kind of thread. That's why I called it 'dilemma' not 'judgement '. |
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"I would busk on the streets a few saucepans and a tune
Did you know you have to have an audition to be a busker in Birmingham City centre now"
I didn't but thank fuck for that....have you seen some of the acts? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Give the money back.
And go home to a sick, hungry child?"
No question to give it back.
Will find another way not to go home empty handed. Good things lead to more good things. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"What would you do Op ?
Excellent parenting btw letting a child go sick, hungry and left with crack heads. Sadly this is reality in some cases.
Welcome to my everyday world "
Must be extremely difficult to switch off. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I would busk on the streets a few saucepans and a tune
Did you know you have to have an audition to be a busker in Birmingham City centre now
I didn't but thank fuck for that....have you seen some of the acts? "
Oh come on, the sax player with the dancing bear, he's great, that yoda suspended in mid air gets right on my tits though |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"What would you do Op ?
Excellent parenting btw letting a child go sick, hungry and left with crack heads. Sadly this is reality in some cases.
Welcome to my everyday world "
Are you the crackhead neighbour? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I think it's lovely that so many would return the money. I think I would too. But if it were a real situation would I? I'd like to think so but who can say."
if i had money i would give it them back, but no i wouldn't let me or my kids die for lack of food and would have no problem stealing to feed them.
i used to be the idiot who went without food but now i know poverty is wrong and being poor is not a crime. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Give the money back, and spend the family allowance and any other benefits I might receive more wisely....
Nope. That's not the dilemma. "
The "dilemma" was "what would you do?"; I said I would give the money back......  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Reminds me of this joke:
A little old lady was walking down the street, dragging two large trash bags behind her. One of the bags was ripped, and every once in a while a $20 fell out onto the sidewalk.
Noticing this, a policeman stopped her and said, "Ma'am, there is money falling out of your bag."
"Oh really?" said the lady. "I'd better go back and see if I can find them. Thanks for letting me know."
"Well not so fast," says the cop. "Where did you get all that money? You didn't steal it did you?"
"Oh of course not," says the old lady. "You see, my back yard is right next to a golf course. A lot of golfers come and pee through a knot hole in my fence, right into my flower garden. It used to really tick me off. It kills the flowers, you know. But then I thought, why not make the best of it.
So now I stand behind the fence by the knot hole, real quiet, with my hedge clippers. Every time some guy sticks his thing through my fence, I surprise him, grab hold of it and say, "OK, buddy! Give me $20 or off it comes!"
"Well, that seems only fair," said the cop, laughing. "Well good luck! Oh, by the way, what's in the other bag?"
"Not everybody pays."
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Give the money back.
And go home to a sick, hungry child?
Obviously would have to find a way to feed said sick child but not by stealing money from a pentioner.
Pensioner"
We knew what they meant! Why oh why do people feel the need to constantly correct minor spelling mistakes! It makes you look like a bit of a tit |
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"Give the money back.
And go home to a sick, hungry child?
Obviously would have to find a way to feed said sick child but not by stealing money from a pentioner.
Pensioner
We knew what they meant! Why oh why do people feel the need to constantly correct minor spelling mistakes! It makes you look like a bit of a tit"
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"Give the money back.
And go home to a sick, hungry child?
Shouldn't have left the child home alone
Lol a neighbour was looking after the child.
Maybe she will feed he
No they're cracking heads. They never have any food in.
You left you kid with crack heads, what the hell mother are you "
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Ok some of the posts made me giggle
I wouldn't get to that point where I have nothing in for my kids as states there are food banks
I'd beg borrow or steal whatever it took
I'd give the money back and feel good knowing id done the right thing
But I also wouldn't be leaving my kid with a crack head
Maybe the kids sick cos they are smoking it around him/her lol
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Give the money back.
And go home to a sick, hungry child?
Obviously would have to find a way to feed said sick child but not by stealing money from a pentioner.
Pensioner
We knew what they meant! Why oh why do people feel the need to constantly correct minor spelling mistakes! It makes you look like a bit of a tit"
It was me that corrected myself.
To be fair though I am a bit of a tit. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Give the money back..
There are Dr's to help the child if he/she is that sick..
There are always possessions to sell if that desperate.
Family/Friends are great,, plus food banks |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Give the money back.
And go home to a sick, hungry child?
Obviously would have to find a way to feed said sick child but not by stealing money from a pentioner.
Pensioner
We knew what they meant! Why oh why do people feel the need to constantly correct minor spelling mistakes! It makes you look like a bit of a tit"
They corrected their own spelling, not the spelling of someone else  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Give the money back, and spend the family allowance and any other benefits I might receive more wisely....
Ouch..... Who said anyone is on benefits ?"
A family allowance is a benefit.... is it not? I believe (although don't quote me), that everyone that has a child gains this benefit (I wouldn't know, I have no children). So I used that as an example in the scenario presented. If I was also in receipt of any other benefits (in the scenario presented), I would think about spending them more wisely.
However as you get £20.70p for your first child under the family allowance rules, it is double the amount dropped by the pensioner....ergo, I would give the money back. |
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"I dont think its necessary to have no food in to the point of a child going hungry. There are food banks. You dont just have a cupboard stocked with food one day and none the next. You didnt say why theyhad no food but im guessing it wasnt because they dropped the last £10 which could be the case for the pensioner.
Also who is at home with the sick child
It's not real. It's a dilemma. Which is the right thing to do.
Or in other words if you had no other option would you steal to feed your sick child? "
well there is not enough information for me to base the answer on. So in my experience i cant imagine why i wouldnt have had no food to feed my child for two days |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I dont think its necessary to have no food in to the point of a child going hungry. There are food banks. You dont just have a cupboard stocked with food one day and none the next. You didnt say why theyhad no food but im guessing it wasnt because they dropped the last £10 which could be the case for the pensioner.
Also who is at home with the sick child
It's not real. It's a dilemma. Which is the right thing to do.
Or in other words if you had no other option would you steal to feed your sick child? well there is not enough information for me to base the answer on. So in my experience i cant imagine why i wouldnt have had no food to feed my child for two days "
Social services should be involved if a child hasnt eaten in 2 days....right,im off for some lobster |
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By *B9 Queen OP Woman
over a year ago
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"I dont think its necessary to have no food in to the point of a child going hungry. There are food banks. You dont just have a cupboard stocked with food one day and none the next. You didnt say why theyhad no food but im guessing it wasnt because they dropped the last £10 which could be the case for the pensioner.
Also who is at home with the sick child
It's not real. It's a dilemma. Which is the right thing to do.
Or in other words if you had no other option would you steal to feed your sick child? well there is not enough information for me to base the answer on. So in my experience i cant imagine why i wouldnt have had no food to feed my child for two days "
It's a hypothetical situation. You only need empathy and imagination rather than experience and factual information. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Give the money back, and spend the family allowance and any other benefits I might receive more wisely....
Ouch..... Who said anyone is on benefits ?
A family allowance is a benefit.... is it not? I believe (although don't quote me), that everyone that has a child gains this benefit (I wouldn't know, I have no children). So I used that as an example in the scenario presented. If I was also in receipt of any other benefits (in the scenario presented), I would think about spending them more wisely.
However as you get £20.70p for your first child under the family allowance rules, it is double the amount dropped by the pensioner....ergo, I would give the money back. "
Pauly,, your right. Every primary carer for a child receives just over £20 for the 1st child, and a slightly lesser amount for each child after..
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"I dont think its necessary to have no food in to the point of a child going hungry. There are food banks. You dont just have a cupboard stocked with food one day and none the next. You didnt say why theyhad no food but im guessing it wasnt because they dropped the last £10 which could be the case for the pensioner.
Also who is at home with the sick child
It's not real. It's a dilemma. Which is the right thing to do.
Or in other words if you had no other option would you steal to feed your sick child? well there is not enough information for me to base the answer on. So in my experience i cant imagine why i wouldnt have had no food to feed my child for two days
It's a hypothetical situation. You only need empathy and imagination rather than experience and factual information. "
empathy for who? |
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"Ok some of the posts made me giggle
I wouldn't get to that point where I have nothing in for my kids as states there are food banks
I'd beg borrow or steal whatever it took
I'd give the money back and feel good knowing id done the right thing
But I also wouldn't be leaving my kid with a crack head
Maybe the kids sick cos they are smoking it around him/her lol
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You can't just turn up to a food bank and ask for food. If you had a sick child a medical professional would issue you with a voucher for the food bank though. |
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"Give the money back, and spend the family allowance and any other benefits I might receive more wisely....
Ouch..... Who said anyone is on benefits ?
A family allowance is a benefit.... is it not? I believe (although don't quote me), that everyone that has a child gains this benefit (I wouldn't know, I have no children). So I used that as an example in the scenario presented. If I was also in receipt of any other benefits (in the scenario presented), I would think about spending them more wisely.
However as you get £20.70p for your first child under the family allowance rules, it is double the amount dropped by the pensioner....ergo, I would give the money back.
Pauly,, your right. Every primary carer for a child receives just over £20 for the 1st child, and a slightly lesser amount for each child after..
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I confess I had to google it (other search engines are available)... |
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By *9bottMan
over a year ago
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I'd cancel my iPhone 6 contract, disconnect sky plus and switch to freeview box, stop having kebabs and cook from fresh at home I would quit smoking as its deffo no good for ppl around ,I'd stay in on sat night and chill in front of my 10 year old 32 inch telly |
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By *B9 Queen OP Woman
over a year ago
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"I dont think its necessary to have no food in to the point of a child going hungry. There are food banks. You dont just have a cupboard stocked with food one day and none the next. You didnt say why theyhad no food but im guessing it wasnt because they dropped the last £10 which could be the case for the pensioner.
Also who is at home with the sick child
It's not real. It's a dilemma. Which is the right thing to do.
Or in other words if you had no other option would you steal to feed your sick child? well there is not enough information for me to base the answer on. So in my experience i cant imagine why i wouldnt have had no food to feed my child for two days
It's a hypothetical situation. You only need empathy and imagination rather than experience and factual information. empathy for who?"
That's the point. Where does your empathy most lie? |
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"Ok some of the posts made me giggle
I wouldn't get to that point where I have nothing in for my kids as states there are food banks
I'd beg borrow or steal whatever it took
I'd give the money back and feel good knowing id done the right thing
But I also wouldn't be leaving my kid with a crack head
Maybe the kids sick cos they are smoking it around him/her lol
You can't just turn up to a food bank and ask for food. If you had a sick child a medical professional would issue you with a voucher for the food bank though."
I've never used one
Plus is there gas and electric to even cook the food if you get some ? |
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Just the other day a client came into my work and was ranting and raving about watching a "trampy looking man" (her words) run out the co-op with stolen food.
Everyone was agreeing with her how awful it was but i couldnt help but wonder why he would do that...coz thats what he fancied for tea but couldnt be arsed paying...or because it was his only way of eating that day.
Such a sad world we live in, know1 should go hungry, i hope to never have this dilemma, but if i did id take it. However im sure i would have found another way before it came to that! |
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"I dont think its necessary to have no food in to the point of a child going hungry. There are food banks. You dont just have a cupboard stocked with food one day and none the next. You didnt say why theyhad no food but im guessing it wasnt because they dropped the last £10 which could be the case for the pensioner.
Also who is at home with the sick child
It's not real. It's a dilemma. Which is the right thing to do.
Or in other words if you had no other option would you steal to feed your sick child? well there is not enough information for me to base the answer on. So in my experience i cant imagine why i wouldnt have had no food to feed my child for two days
It's a hypothetical situation. You only need empathy and imagination rather than experience and factual information. empathy for who?
That's the point. Where does your empathy most lie?"
with the pensioner as i wouldnt be in the situation |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I'd keep my self respect and hand the money back to the old person.
It's the little things in life what makes people smile."
Id hand it back ( nice ass by the way)!!! Lol |
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"Give the money back, and spend the family allowance and any other benefits I might receive more wisely....
Ouch..... Who said anyone is on benefits ?
A family allowance is a benefit.... is it not? I believe (although don't quote me), that everyone that has a child gains this benefit (I wouldn't know, I have no children). So I used that as an example in the scenario presented. If I was also in receipt of any other benefits (in the scenario presented), I would think about spending them more wisely.
However as you get £20.70p for your first child under the family allowance rules, it is double the amount dropped by the pensioner....ergo, I would give the money back. "
Okay , Okay ........ it's not her first child so she gets £13 + not £20.70 and she was going to be chucked out for non payment of rent because the bank hadn't handled the standing order properly and had sent all the rent to the wrong landlord. Those blokes from Ch5 came and said that if she didn't pay up she'd have to leave in one hour. So she gave them everything she had plus the £13 child allowance. Then the fridge blew up and the couscous with a foam air and smoked grass jous ...hit the ceiling and she's had NOTHING for two days cos it's bank holiday !! |
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By *B9 Queen OP Woman
over a year ago
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"Give the money back, and spend the family allowance and any other benefits I might receive more wisely....
Ouch..... Who said anyone is on benefits ?
A family allowance is a benefit.... is it not? I believe (although don't quote me), that everyone that has a child gains this benefit (I wouldn't know, I have no children). So I used that as an example in the scenario presented. If I was also in receipt of any other benefits (in the scenario presented), I would think about spending them more wisely.
However as you get £20.70p for your first child under the family allowance rules, it is double the amount dropped by the pensioner....ergo, I would give the money back.
Okay , Okay ........ it's not her first child so she gets £13 + not £20.70 and she was going to be chucked out for non payment of rent because the bank hadn't handled the standing order properly and had sent all the rent to the wrong landlord. Those blokes from Ch5 came and said that if she didn't pay up she'd have to leave in one hour. So she gave them everything she had plus the £13 child allowance. Then the fridge blew up and the couscous with a foam air and smoked grass jous ...hit the ceiling and she's had NOTHING for two days cos it's bank holiday !!"
It's a simple hypothetical dilemma. Let's not confuse things. Sick hungry child or pensioner? |
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"Give the money back, and spend the family allowance and any other benefits I might receive more wisely....
Ouch..... Who said anyone is on benefits ?
A family allowance is a benefit.... is it not? I believe (although don't quote me), that everyone that has a child gains this benefit (I wouldn't know, I have no children). So I used that as an example in the scenario presented. If I was also in receipt of any other benefits (in the scenario presented), I would think about spending them more wisely.
However as you get £20.70p for your first child under the family allowance rules, it is double the amount dropped by the pensioner....ergo, I would give the money back.
Okay , Okay ........ it's not her first child so she gets £13 + not £20.70 and she was going to be chucked out for non payment of rent because the bank hadn't handled the standing order properly and had sent all the rent to the wrong landlord. Those blokes from Ch5 came and said that if she didn't pay up she'd have to leave in one hour. So she gave them everything she had plus the £13 child allowance. Then the fridge blew up and the couscous with a foam air and smoked grass jous ...hit the ceiling and she's had NOTHING for two days cos it's bank holiday !!"
Ha ha She's not having a good time
I will give her £5 where can I post it |
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"Give the money back, and spend the family allowance and any other benefits I might receive more wisely....
Ouch..... Who said anyone is on benefits ?
A family allowance is a benefit.... is it not? I believe (although don't quote me), that everyone that has a child gains this benefit (I wouldn't know, I have no children). So I used that as an example in the scenario presented. If I was also in receipt of any other benefits (in the scenario presented), I would think about spending them more wisely.
However as you get £20.70p for your first child under the family allowance rules, it is double the amount dropped by the pensioner....ergo, I would give the money back.
Okay , Okay ........ it's not her first child so she gets £13 + not £20.70 and she was going to be chucked out for non payment of rent because the bank hadn't handled the standing order properly and had sent all the rent to the wrong landlord. Those blokes from Ch5 came and said that if she didn't pay up she'd have to leave in one hour. So she gave them everything she had plus the £13 child allowance. Then the fridge blew up and the couscous with a foam air and smoked grass jous ...hit the ceiling and she's had NOTHING for two days cos it's bank holiday !!"
so she actually gets £34.40 benefits for her children? 3 times the amount dropped or a little over £1700 per year in child benefit? Its tough living on a budget, but I doubt this is her only source of income; I empathise, so perhaps a trip to the CAB office on better financial management could assist?
As far as I am aware the NHS is free; under 16 year olds get free prescriptions and hospitals are open 24hrs a day (usually with a dispensary) so the sickness isn't an issue... |
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By (user no longer on site)
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I would definitely steal for my kids, if their life was in danger from starvation AND there was no other help available.
I'd be more likely to steal from Tesco than a pensioner though.
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By *B9 Queen OP Woman
over a year ago
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"Give the money back, and spend the family allowance and any other benefits I might receive more wisely....
Ouch..... Who said anyone is on benefits ?
A family allowance is a benefit.... is it not? I believe (although don't quote me), that everyone that has a child gains this benefit (I wouldn't know, I have no children). So I used that as an example in the scenario presented. If I was also in receipt of any other benefits (in the scenario presented), I would think about spending them more wisely.
However as you get £20.70p for your first child under the family allowance rules, it is double the amount dropped by the pensioner....ergo, I would give the money back.
Okay , Okay ........ it's not her first child so she gets £13 + not £20.70 and she was going to be chucked out for non payment of rent because the bank hadn't handled the standing order properly and had sent all the rent to the wrong landlord. Those blokes from Ch5 came and said that if she didn't pay up she'd have to leave in one hour. So she gave them everything she had plus the £13 child allowance. Then the fridge blew up and the couscous with a foam air and smoked grass jous ...hit the ceiling and she's had NOTHING for two days cos it's bank holiday !!
so she actually gets £34.40 benefits for her children? 3 times the amount dropped or a little over £1700 per year in child benefit? Its tough living on a budget, but I doubt this is her only source of income; I empathise, so perhaps a trip to the CAB office on better financial management could assist?
As far as I am aware the NHS is free; under 16 year olds get free prescriptions and hospitals are open 24hrs a day (usually with a dispensary) so the sickness isn't an issue..."
Nope. Sick child or pensioner.
I didn't say what country so the debates about benefits and nhs are irrelevant. |
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"Give the money back, and spend the family allowance and any other benefits I might receive more wisely....
Ouch..... Who said anyone is on benefits ?
A family allowance is a benefit.... is it not? I believe (although don't quote me), that everyone that has a child gains this benefit (I wouldn't know, I have no children). So I used that as an example in the scenario presented. If I was also in receipt of any other benefits (in the scenario presented), I would think about spending them more wisely.
However as you get £20.70p for your first child under the family allowance rules, it is double the amount dropped by the pensioner....ergo, I would give the money back.
Okay , Okay ........ it's not her first child so she gets £13 + not £20.70 and she was going to be chucked out for non payment of rent because the bank hadn't handled the standing order properly and had sent all the rent to the wrong landlord. Those blokes from Ch5 came and said that if she didn't pay up she'd have to leave in one hour. So she gave them everything she had plus the £13 child allowance. Then the fridge blew up and the couscous with a foam air and smoked grass jous ...hit the ceiling and she's had NOTHING for two days cos it's bank holiday !!
so she actually gets £34.40 benefits for her children? 3 times the amount dropped or a little over £1700 per year in child benefit? Its tough living on a budget, but I doubt this is her only source of income; I empathise, so perhaps a trip to the CAB office on better financial management could assist?
As far as I am aware the NHS is free; under 16 year olds get free prescriptions and hospitals are open 24hrs a day (usually with a dispensary) so the sickness isn't an issue..."
i didnt even take into account the child being sick most kids that are sick dont want to eat anyway |
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"Give the money back, and spend the family allowance and any other benefits I might receive more wisely....
Ouch..... Who said anyone is on benefits ?
A family allowance is a benefit.... is it not? I believe (although don't quote me), that everyone that has a child gains this benefit (I wouldn't know, I have no children). So I used that as an example in the scenario presented. If I was also in receipt of any other benefits (in the scenario presented), I would think about spending them more wisely.
However as you get £20.70p for your first child under the family allowance rules, it is double the amount dropped by the pensioner....ergo, I would give the money back.
Okay , Okay ........ it's not her first child so she gets £13 + not £20.70 and she was going to be chucked out for non payment of rent because the bank hadn't handled the standing order properly and had sent all the rent to the wrong landlord. Those blokes from Ch5 came and said that if she didn't pay up she'd have to leave in one hour. So she gave them everything she had plus the £13 child allowance. Then the fridge blew up and the couscous with a foam air and smoked grass jous ...hit the ceiling and she's had NOTHING for two days cos it's bank holiday !!
so she actually gets £34.40 benefits for her children? 3 times the amount dropped or a little over £1700 per year in child benefit? Its tough living on a budget, but I doubt this is her only source of income; I empathise, so perhaps a trip to the CAB office on better financial management could assist?
As far as I am aware the NHS is free; under 16 year olds get free prescriptions and hospitals are open 24hrs a day (usually with a dispensary) so the sickness isn't an issue...
Nope. Sick child or pensioner.
I didn't say what country so the debates about benefits and nhs are irrelevant. "
You said £10... not 10 (whatever the local denomination is )... so I assumed the UK (sterling).....
I think I need more information |
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"Give the money back, and spend the family allowance and any other benefits I might receive more wisely....
Ouch..... Who said anyone is on benefits ?
A family allowance is a benefit.... is it not? I believe (although don't quote me), that everyone that has a child gains this benefit (I wouldn't know, I have no children). So I used that as an example in the scenario presented. If I was also in receipt of any other benefits (in the scenario presented), I would think about spending them more wisely.
However as you get £20.70p for your first child under the family allowance rules, it is double the amount dropped by the pensioner....ergo, I would give the money back.
Okay , Okay ........ it's not her first child so she gets £13 + not £20.70 and she was going to be chucked out for non payment of rent because the bank hadn't handled the standing order properly and had sent all the rent to the wrong landlord. Those blokes from Ch5 came and said that if she didn't pay up she'd have to leave in one hour. So she gave them everything she had plus the £13 child allowance. Then the fridge blew up and the couscous with a foam air and smoked grass jous ...hit the ceiling and she's had NOTHING for two days cos it's bank holiday !!
so she actually gets £34.40 benefits for her children? 3 times the amount dropped or a little over £1700 per year in child benefit? Its tough living on a budget, but I doubt this is her only source of income; I empathise, so perhaps a trip to the CAB office on better financial management could assist?
As far as I am aware the NHS is free; under 16 year olds get free prescriptions and hospitals are open 24hrs a day (usually with a dispensary) so the sickness isn't an issue...
Nope. Sick child or pensioner.
I didn't say what country so the debates about benefits and nhs are irrelevant.
You said £10... not 10 (whatever the local denomination is )... so I assumed the UK (sterling).....
I think I need more information"
shes asking us what we would do. Right now im in england |
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By *B9 Queen OP Woman
over a year ago
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"Give the money back, and spend the family allowance and any other benefits I might receive more wisely....
Ouch..... Who said anyone is on benefits ?
A family allowance is a benefit.... is it not? I believe (although don't quote me), that everyone that has a child gains this benefit (I wouldn't know, I have no children). So I used that as an example in the scenario presented. If I was also in receipt of any other benefits (in the scenario presented), I would think about spending them more wisely.
However as you get £20.70p for your first child under the family allowance rules, it is double the amount dropped by the pensioner....ergo, I would give the money back.
Okay , Okay ........ it's not her first child so she gets £13 + not £20.70 and she was going to be chucked out for non payment of rent because the bank hadn't handled the standing order properly and had sent all the rent to the wrong landlord. Those blokes from Ch5 came and said that if she didn't pay up she'd have to leave in one hour. So she gave them everything she had plus the £13 child allowance. Then the fridge blew up and the couscous with a foam air and smoked grass jous ...hit the ceiling and she's had NOTHING for two days cos it's bank holiday !!
so she actually gets £34.40 benefits for her children? 3 times the amount dropped or a little over £1700 per year in child benefit? Its tough living on a budget, but I doubt this is her only source of income; I empathise, so perhaps a trip to the CAB office on better financial management could assist?
As far as I am aware the NHS is free; under 16 year olds get free prescriptions and hospitals are open 24hrs a day (usually with a dispensary) so the sickness isn't an issue...
Nope. Sick child or pensioner.
I didn't say what country so the debates about benefits and nhs are irrelevant.
You said £10... not 10 (whatever the local denomination is )... so I assumed the UK (sterling).....
I think I need more information"
Nope. You don't. It's a decision based on where your empathy lies. Debating whether there's help or not is missing the point.
Who do you have empathy for. Your own sick child or an elderly person? |
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I am afraid that this post has now confused me and I need to walk around the grounds to clear my mind....
To answer you OP, regardless of the nationality of said pensioner or sick child, I would give the money back and then rent myself out for such jobs as sulphur mining or double glazing selling (depending on the country I lived in) in the hope that one day I could afford BUPA (or the national equivalent).
Now I must check on the moat |
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"Give the money back.
And go home to a sick, hungry child?
Obviously would have to find a way to feed said sick child but not by stealing money from a pentioner.
Pensioner
We knew what they meant! Why oh why do people feel the need to constantly correct minor spelling mistakes! It makes you look like a bit of a tit
It was me that corrected myself.
To be fair though I am a bit of a tit. "
Hahahahaha sorry! But we knew what you were on about, some times it gets to me, seems like bullying sometimes. I sincerely(ish) apologise |
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OP are you trying to justify in some way pocketing the pensioners money.. because most posts have said return the money but you keep bringing it back to 'your own sick child' after others have already given their opinion. |
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Always bringing it back to ur sick child at home who is hungry...
How do u know this pensioner doesn't have a 'sick' someone at home that is hungry and needs to eat; with that being the only money they have left.
if it was ur, u money would want someone to return it... So the old saying 'treat others how u would like to be treated yourself' |
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"I'd give it back. That could be the last money they have to buy electricity, food, prescription, etc..."
this, plus if you had a sick child you should have made sure you didn't let things get bad enough that you couldn't provide for them |
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Has anyone gotten Ben any thought to the pensioner being a right old cunt?
She could be a nazi war criminal, and losing her last tenner (that's £10 not the piss pad) could be karma doing its thing, she could be a puppy murderer, someone who poisons neighbours cats, or a retired traffic warden, and as someone already said, don't fuck with karma
*please note that the op made up a scenario that has no real bearing in real life, and so in this made up world I can be as mean to old people as I like, even though I would never do that in real life* |
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"Has anyone gotten Ben any thought to the pensioner being a right old cunt?
She could be a nazi war criminal, and losing her last tenner (that's £10 not the piss pad) could be karma doing its thing, she could be a puppy murderer, someone who poisons neighbours cats, or a retired traffic warden, and as someone already said, don't fuck with karma
*please note that the op made up a scenario that has no real bearing in real life, and so in this made up world I can be as mean to old people as I like, even though I would never do that in real life* "
Are you suggesting that it's okay to take the money dropped by a cunt but not by a nice little old pensioner ?
Who said it was a lady pensioner ? If it's a cunt it's more than likely not female. |
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By *B9 Queen OP Woman
over a year ago
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"OP are you trying to justify in some way pocketing the pensioners money.. because most posts have said return the money but you keep bringing it back to 'your own sick child' after others have already given their opinion. "
If you scroll a bit I make my own feelings clear - I would give it back. The only time I've challenged people is when it got bogged down with debates about benefits etc. |
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"I'd keep my self respect and hand the money back to the old person.
It's the little things in life what makes people smile.
Id hand it back ( nice ass by the way)!!! Lol "
How do you know the pensioner has a nice ass? |
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"Take the long term view
Give the money back to the pensioner
Gain her trust, alienate her children, get access to her savings account and pension "
What if she doesn't have any savings?
At least you have a baby sitter who isn't sucking on a crack Pipe while you go out to earn a living |
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By *manda63Woman
over a year ago
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"Give the money back.
And go home to a sick, hungry child?
Shouldn't have left the child home alone
Lol a neighbour was looking after the child.
Maybe she will feed he
No they're cracking heads. They never have any food in.
*crack "
Give the money back and don't leave the sick child with crackheads. Parents still receive family allowance I believe?
And if I found out someone had stolen from my mother (a pensioner), I'd probably do something violent to them |
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Been there with 3 kids, I hadn't eaten anything but toast for 2 days but the kids had, actually found £25 on the school run. I rang up the school reception, and the pre school said I'd found it, they lady who lost it went into the office in a panic as it was her food money, so I went and gave it back to her. |
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I wouldn't.
As a single parent with 2 children, there is always something in the house to eat.
We have been seriously on the breadline but I would never steal.
My children come first and I would never allow us to get into a situation like this. |
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Give the money back. Pensioners have been through alot more hell than we have in the past. They have paid there taxes for many more years they deserve there £10 that might only be the £10 they have also remember that ! x |
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"I dont think its necessary to have no food in to the point of a child going hungry. There are food banks. You dont just have a cupboard stocked with food one day and none the next. You didnt say why theyhad no food but im guessing it wasnt because they dropped the last £10 which could be the case for the pensioner.
Also who is at home with the sick child
It's not real. It's a dilemma. Which is the right thing to do.
Or in other words if you had no other option would you steal to feed your sick child? "
Yes I would! |
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By *B9 Queen OP Woman
over a year ago
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"Give the money back, eat the pensioner!! 
That's lateral thinking for ya. Gotta love the survival instinct. "
Yup great answer! And the ten quid could be used to buy a nice bottle of chianti and some fava beans. |
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