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"What does it mean to you? " Choice. | |||
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"What does it mean to you? Choice." Are you less free if your choice is denied to you? | |||
"To be who I want to be." In every way? | |||
"Freedom is nothing without force to back it up. We all accept limits upon our freedom so that we may collectively work together to limt other peoples freedoms more extremely to provide us with stability and safety. " Does that make us less free in the process? | |||
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"Something unachievable and dangerous." What's the danger? | |||
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"To feel really free you must have had your freedom taken away " Is that more that you don't appreciate what you have until you lose it? | |||
"not made to feel guilty about doing things " Freedom from guilt is an interesting one. Guilt comes from within, I would argue. | |||
"What does it mean to you? Choice. Are you less free if your choice is denied to you?" That depends on the severity, but essentially yes. | |||
"What does it mean to you? " 2 years of prison over, 2 years of being on licence. Oh joy. | |||
"passing my driving test right now " I remember that one. It was very liberating to get in my own car without a friend having to be there. ENJOY! | |||
"not made to feel guilty about doing things Freedom from guilt is an interesting one. Guilt comes from within, I would argue." i would argue back at that one | |||
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"To walk out of my front door knowing I can go where I want and I don't have to get back for anyone. It doesn't happen often. " Limited freedom - a precious commodity. | |||
"To feel really free you must have had your freedom taken away Is that more that you don't appreciate what you have until you lose it?" Kind of but more you don't comprehend the the extent till its gone. Hard to explain sorry | |||
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"Freedom to me is being able to make life choices without being hindered in doing so by any one or anything else. I can't put a % on how free I am, I still have to consider others when I make life choices, but these days I only consider my kids, no one else has a right of input in my life. But I'm finding my freedom is being compromised by other people's, tonight I was supposed to be all funny and charming and shit, at the Birmingham social but my ex has decided that she needs to be alone tonight, and so won't be having our son for the night, so while a couple of people I was dying to meet in person are having a good time, I'll be watching Netflix while comfort eating lol" Compromised freedom. | |||
"To be who I want to be. In every way?" No, not in every way. But I should be able to enjoy what I want or be the person I want be, as long as I don't infringe on the freedoms of others. It's not perfect but it's how I try to be. | |||
"What is freedom? The day I give up my caring role for my disabled mum will be the day I am free I don't mean it to be nasty but even when she has respite or on my occasional rare night out/away I never fully switch off and still worry and fret over her " My demented mother going into a home opened up opportunities that just weren't possible before. It's a tough one. Good luck. | |||
"To be who I want to be. In every way? No, not in every way. But I should be able to enjoy what I want or be the person I want be, as long as I don't infringe on the freedoms of others. It's not perfect but it's how I try to be." Thank you. Infringing on others is always there isn't it? | |||
"Freedom to me is being able to make life choices without being hindered in doing so by any one or anything else. I can't put a % on how free I am, I still have to consider others when I make life choices, but these days I only consider my kids, no one else has a right of input in my life. But I'm finding my freedom is being compromised by other people's, tonight I was supposed to be all funny and charming and shit, at the Birmingham social but my ex has decided that she needs to be alone tonight, and so won't be having our son for the night, so while a couple of people I was dying to meet in person are having a good time, I'll be watching Netflix while comfort eating lol Compromised freedom. " Better comprising freedom than uncompromising slavery | |||
"To feel really free you must have had your freedom taken away Is that more that you don't appreciate what you have until you lose it? Kind of but more you don't comprehend the the extent till its gone. Hard to explain sorry" sort of agree with the initial sentiment, having seen other's in the environment where they had lost their freedom it sort of brought it home what it actually meant to just be able to walk away from that environment at the 'end of the working day'.. | |||
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"I hear the word freedom and I roll my eyes. To me it means propaganda. But maybe that's because I'm American. " Yeah, we have fewer bald eagles and flags over here. | |||
"I hear the word freedom and I roll my eyes. To me it means propaganda. But maybe that's because I'm American. " even when its spoken in a really bad 'Scottish' accent by an Aussie..? | |||
"Freedom is nothing without force to back it up. We all accept limits upon our freedom so that we may collectively work together to limt other peoples freedoms more extremely to provide us with stability and safety. Does that make us less free in the process?" Of course. For example. Go walk down the street topless. But in exchange what do you do when you hear somone breaking your back window. You give freedoms up, and in echange you expect your freedoms backed up by communal force | |||
"To be who I want to be." https://youtu.be/sTzhjjk9VoE Come on, rock it with me.. Side to side.. | |||
"Freedom for me? When someone else has the kids for a bit. It happens almost never, so it's quite exciting when it does." If somone offered you the choice to have that definition of freedom for the rest of your life starting tomorrow. Or to never have it again Which would you pick | |||
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"What does it mean to you? " To run down the street belting Geronimooooooo | |||
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"As many seem to sit in diametrically opposed camps these days maybe the old adage .... "Your Freedom is My Oppression" applies." One persons freedom ends where it infringes upon anothers. | |||
"To be who I want to be. In every way? No, not in every way. But I should be able to enjoy what I want or be the person I want be, as long as I don't infringe on the freedoms of others. It's not perfect but it's how I try to be. Thank you. Infringing on others is always there isn't it?" In some ways yes it is. We always have cause and effect and it's not always explicit about what those effects are. But I can choose alot of the time the effects I can have. | |||
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"What does it mean to you? " Mel Gibson with a blue face. | |||
"I hear the word freedom and I roll my eyes. To me it means propaganda. But maybe that's because I'm American. " I always find it difficult to hear America being described as the land of the free when one considers its history and just how many restrictions appear to be placed on its citizens. | |||
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"As many seem to sit in diametrically opposed camps these days maybe the old adage .... "Your Freedom is My Oppression" applies." It's an OLD adage for a reason. Twas ever thus. | |||
"I dont know..I dont have it" In no parts of your life at all? | |||
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"Leaving work x" Yes!! Especially on a Friday (if you don't work weekends that is! | |||
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"I hear the word freedom and I roll my eyes. To me it means propaganda. But maybe that's because I'm American. I always find it difficult to hear America being described as the land of the free when one considers its history and just how many restrictions appear to be placed on its citizens. " To be honest, I feel like I have more restrictions on me in this country than in America. But I mean it in a different sense. It's constantly used as our vindication for every bad thing. Want to start a war? Let's make it for freedom! They hate us because we have freedom! Why can't I restrict gun rights? Freedom! Freedom, fuck. I'm sick of using a meaningful term to justify atrocity. I'm just sick of hearing it. | |||
"What does it mean to you? " Freedom is a state of mind. I remember many years ago I walked out of highly regulated life as a member of a band with a recording contract. We were told exactly what to do what to where virtually what to think. As a said I walked away and hitched without knowing where I was going, eventually a stopped at a seside town where I stayed all summer long. I had no money, no bank card and no work. I did not sign on but just did odd jobs when I needed to eat. I have never felt so free before or after | |||
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"As many seem to sit in diametrically opposed camps these days maybe the old adage .... "Your Freedom is My Oppression" applies. It's an OLD adage for a reason. Twas ever thus. " My freedom not to see sexually explicit things in public means i may walk down the street topless bht a woman may not. | |||
"To me freedom is - going on holidays.. Packing the car, leaving the house and not coming back for a few days.. However how many bills go through the front door.. I have no control of.. I won't know - switching the wifi off and phone off. No emails, no texts, no calls (sorry friends), no social media... I love that when I'm away... - like above, leaving work on a Friday afternoon... At least 2 whole days without being controlled by idiots - going to a quiet beach and looking at the sea.. Silly but it always gives a sense of freedom... No buildings, no traffic, no people... - holidays again or time off... Not to have to live by the clock.. Get up, have a shower, lunch, go to bed whenever I want There are many more and I won't bore ... Being and feeling free is a wonderful feeling " cant go wrong with most of that love the bit about leaving work on a friday as well | |||
"I dont know..I dont have it In no parts of your life at all? " Not much | |||
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"I hear the word freedom and I roll my eyes. To me it means propaganda. But maybe that's because I'm American. I always find it difficult to hear America being described as the land of the free when one considers its history and just how many restrictions appear to be placed on its citizens. To be honest, I feel like I have more restrictions on me in this country than in America. But I mean it in a different sense. It's constantly used as our vindication for every bad thing. Want to start a war? Let's make it for freedom! They hate us because we have freedom! Why can't I restrict gun rights? Freedom! Freedom, fuck. I'm sick of using a meaningful term to justify atrocity. I'm just sick of hearing it. " The justification is bandied around rather too freely, I agree. | |||
"What does it mean to you? Freedom is a state of mind. I remember many years ago I walked out of highly regulated life as a member of a band with a recording contract. We were told exactly what to do what to where virtually what to think. As a said I walked away and hitched without knowing where I was going, eventually a stopped at a seside town where I stayed all summer long. I had no money, no bank card and no work. I did not sign on but just did odd jobs when I needed to eat. I have never felt so free before or after" There's a lesson there. | |||
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"Freedom for me? When someone else has the kids for a bit. It happens almost never, so it's quite exciting when it does." I hear ya! | |||
"Freedom for me? When someone else has the kids for a bit. It happens almost never, so it's quite exciting when it does." same here.. i feel guilty for wanting freedom. i love my daughter but ive forgotten who i am | |||
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"What does it mean to you? " No such thing unfortunately. | |||
"Ohh say, £10000000000000000.. Too greedy? " That's not freedom, it's just money. I be you'd find it oppressive having all those people wanting some of your money just because they asked and you have it. | |||
"I always think of this: http://youtu.be/auN0ZLcuvXI "Freedom to choose what you do with your body Freedom to believe what you like Freedom for brothers to love one another Freedom for black and white Freedom from harassment, intimidation Freedom for the mother and wife Freedom from Big Brother's interrogation Freedom to live your own life" (And the 'Daily Mail' piss-rip that follows ) Mr.ddc" You're showing our age posting TRB. | |||
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"I am my own freedom. I choose to work so I can do as I please when I please and only have myself to please. I feel light and airy OK that might be the prosecco talking now " | |||
"I am my own freedom. I choose to work so I can do as I please when I please and only have myself to please. I feel light and airy OK that might be the prosecco talking now " It's the bubbles making you feel light and airy. | |||
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"At this moment in time ~ freedom for me would mean not having to answer to anyone." Excuse me, can you tell me the time? | |||
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"Ohh say, £10000000000000000.. Too greedy? That's not freedom, it's just money. I be you'd find it oppressive having all those people wanting some of your money just because they asked and you have it. " Welllll..let's not be hasty here Better that I experience it first, before I agree | |||
"What does it mean to you? " Well. We are, Tied up to a massive mortgage, loans, credit cards. Phone contracts, TV,broadband, car insurance, home insurance, life insurance, tax,council tax, water,gas, electricity, road tax, TV licence, controlling employers, the crushing responsibility of bringing up children in the era of multi media and terrorism threats. Lying politicians and large corporations controlling everything we eat, drink, buy, think and where we live. Out of control immigration and out of control benefits system exploited by lazy liars unwilling to contribute to the system. We think we are free but we are totally controlled by it all. Freedom? You decide. At least we can vote, all be it for corrupt lying politician's. We are not bound by chains and threatened with beatings and death. Only financial chains. We don't live in a society dominated by one fanatical religion where to disagree is punishable by death. Well not yet anyway! Freedom, hmmmm. It means something different to everyone. We all have a different definition of freedom. I would like to say that the definition is being able to make choices for yourselves. But honestly do we ever really? | |||
"What does it mean to you? 2 years of prison over, 2 years of being on licence. Oh joy." I'm guessing some of your previous posts have put you on quite a few block lists and I'm not sure this thread will be any different...Lots of judgmental (or just mental) people on the forums | |||
"What does it mean to you? Well. We are, Tied up to a massive mortgage, loans, credit cards. Phone contracts, TV,broadband, car insurance, home insurance, life insurance, tax,council tax, water,gas, electricity, road tax, TV licence, controlling employers, the crushing responsibility of bringing up children in the era of multi media and terrorism threats. Lying politicians and large corporations controlling everything we eat, drink, buy, think and where we live. Out of control immigration and out of control benefits system exploited by lazy liars unwilling to contribute to the system. We think we are free but we are totally controlled by it all. Freedom? You decide. At least we can vote, all be it for corrupt lying politician's. We are not bound by chains and threatened with beatings and death. Only financial chains. We don't live in a society dominated by one fanatical religion where to disagree is punishable by death. Well not yet anyway! Freedom, hmmmm. It means something different to everyone. We all have a different definition of freedom. I would like to say that the definition is being able to make choices for yourselves. But honestly do we ever really? " Things that weigh us down. | |||
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