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By *ezebelWoman
over a year ago
North of The Wall - youll need your vest |
"So Tony says we won't beat is is without putting troops on the ground well whose fucking fault is that you slimy lying bastard"
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over a year ago
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I think Tony would do well too stay under the radar until the Chilcot report is published and the eyes of the world fix their collective stare on him and burn agonising holes through his very soul .....  |
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"So Tony says we won't beat is is without putting troops on the ground well whose fucking fault is that you slimy lying bastard
Not sure hes a member here, but if he is Im sure he'll be along to answer you shortly "
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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we can shout and call names all we like but he will walk away unharmed whilst still adding more millions to the multi millions he has already made
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I don't like him, I do think he mislead the UK into war and I lost a family member in Iraq due to his leadership but I still think he will shrug this off. |
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"I think Tony would do well too stay under the radar until the Chilcot report is published and the eyes of the world fix their collective stare on him and burn agonising holes through his very soul ..... "
Some cnuts just don't have a soul though... |
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"So Tony says we won't beat is is without putting troops on the ground well whose fucking fault is that you slimy lying bastard"
I hate to break it to you, but we wont "beat" IS full stop.
They are not a country, or an army, that you can bomb, or wipe out, they are an idea, a cult, a religion, a state of mind.
They will not surrender, you cannot wage conventional warfare against them.
You can kill the fighters on the ground when they are grouped together like in Syria, Iraq, and Afghanistan, but the individuals, or small cells of terrorists will just melt away after each attack in whichever city they target.
IS is here to stay.... and around 5% of British muslims agree to some extent with IS's objectives!! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"So Tony says we won't beat is is without putting troops on the ground well whose fucking fault is that you slimy lying bastard
I hate to break it to you, but we wont "beat" IS full stop.
They are not a country, or an army, that you can bomb, or wipe out, they are an idea, a cult, a religion, a state of mind.
They will not surrender, you cannot wage conventional warfare against them.
You can kill the fighters on the ground when they are grouped together like in Syria, Iraq, and Afghanistan, but the individuals, or small cells of terrorists will just melt away after each attack in whichever city they target.
IS is here to stay.... and around 5% of British muslims agree to some extent with IS's objectives!!"
Wasn't that 5% figure printed by the sun, and they had to retract it? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Great. I'm not expecting any ill-informed rhetoric or emotional outbursts in this thread at all.  I always tend to swim against the tide, so I'm just going to say that for all his failings and imperfections - and the build up towards Iraq was certainly one of those - he was still a better PM than Cameron. |
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"Great. I'm not expecting any ill-informed rhetoric or emotional outbursts in this thread at all. I always tend to swim against the tide, so I'm just going to say that for all his failings and imperfections - and the build up towards Iraq was certainly one of those - he was still a better PM than Cameron. "
do you know what, I'm going to agree with you, he got the blame for taking unreliable council, Gordon brown tried to pin the credit crunch on him saying "I wasn't prime minister when all this started" hmm is that so, what was your job when it all started? Wouldn't happen to be the guy who looks after the money would it |
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By *r TriomanMan
over a year ago
Chippenham Malmesbury area |
"So Tony says we won't beat is is without putting troops on the ground well whose fucking fault is that you slimy lying bastard"
Is he going make his son join the army and then send him? - too many body bags from the last time Mr Blair endevoured to resolve the Middle East |
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"Great. I'm not expecting any ill-informed rhetoric or emotional outbursts in this thread at all. I always tend to swim against the tide, so I'm just going to say that for all his failings and imperfections - and the build up towards Iraq was certainly one of those - he was still a better PM than Cameron. "
yeah he was great precided over a government that let in 13 million immigrants in took us into an illegal war which cost hundreds of lives we are still fighting today and he and brown totally ignored warnings about the banks overspending right up until the financial crisis and we are still trying to balance the books today let's give him a medal |
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"Tony b Liar knows a lot about 'Putting troops on the ground' he needlessly put plenty IN the ground.
So did Thatcher."
Think your find murdere Blair killed many many many more and over countries that had nothing at all to do with us |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Again I don't like the guy but we "the UK" voted him in, and at the time he took us to war, WE the people, myself included, you and I done nothing to stop him, same as the forces followed orders and went to war.
Its very easy after an event to run and hang everyone out to dry, but did we the people do enough to stop this at the time?
think about it? |
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"Again I don't like the guy but we "the UK" voted him in, and at the time he took us to war, WE the people, myself included, you and I done nothing to stop him, same as the forces followed orders and went to war.
Its very easy after an event to run and hang everyone out to dry, but did we the people do enough to stop this at the time?
Cough cough
I did NOT vote him in
The soldiers CANNOT refuse to do there job
And unlike some I am not jumping on a bandwagon as I was vocal very vocal signing petitions and joining groups to NOT got to war thankyou
think about it?"
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"Tony b Liar knows a lot about 'Putting troops on the ground' he needlessly put plenty IN the ground.
So did Thatcher.
Think your find murdere Blair killed many many many more and over countries that had nothing at all to do with us "
In many people's eyes a useless bit of rock in the south Atlantic that we obtained by stealing had nothing to do with us. |
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"Again I don't like the guy but we "the UK" voted him in, and at the time he took us to war, WE the people, myself included, you and I done nothing to stop him, same as the forces followed orders and went to war.
Its very easy after an event to run and hang everyone out to dry, but did we the people do enough to stop this at the time?
think about it?"
So 1.5m people in the strets of London protesting was nothing |
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"Tony b Liar knows a lot about 'Putting troops on the ground' he needlessly put plenty IN the ground.
So did Thatcher.
Think your find murdere Blair killed many many many more and over countries that had nothing at all to do with us
In many people's eyes a useless bit of rock in the south Atlantic that we obtained by stealing had nothing to do with us."
We never stole it, we claimed it before the Argentinians. |
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To this day I find it amusing that inspite of Labour and Blair getting in by a significant margin it is almost impossible to find a single die hard, voted Labour all their life supporter who will own up to having voted Blair in.
Someone did, but I guess we all have our dirty little secrets. |
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"Tony b Liar knows a lot about 'Putting troops on the ground' he needlessly put plenty IN the ground.
So did Thatcher.
Think your find murdere Blair killed many many many more and over countries that had nothing at all to do with us
In many people's eyes a useless bit of rock in the south Atlantic that we obtained by stealing had nothing to do with us.
We never stole it, we claimed it before the Argentinians. "
So we obtained them by saying these are ours? Sounds like theft to me.
Actually the French were first to lay claim.  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Great. I'm not expecting any ill-informed rhetoric or emotional outbursts in this thread at all. I always tend to swim against the tide, so I'm just going to say that for all his failings and imperfections - and the build up towards Iraq was certainly one of those - he was still a better PM than Cameron. do you know what, I'm going to agree with you, he got the blame for taking unreliable council, Gordon brown tried to pin the credit crunch on him saying "I wasn't prime minister when all this started" hmm is that so, what was your job when it all started? Wouldn't happen to be the guy who looks after the money would it "
Totally agree with you on that one I would have him any day compared to Cameron. But I also didn't agree on the war he got sucked into by sucking up to bush. |
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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago
Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum |
"To this day I find it amusing that inspite of Labour and Blair getting in by a significant margin it is almost impossible to find a single die hard, voted Labour all their life supporter who will own up to having voted Blair in.
Someone did, but I guess we all have our dirty little secrets. "
I've voted labour since 87. Better than the alternative. |
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"Again I don't like the guy but we "the UK" voted him in, and at the time he took us to war, WE the people, myself included, you and I done nothing to stop him, same as the forces followed orders and went to war.
Its very easy after an event to run and hang everyone out to dry, but did we the people do enough to stop this at the time?
think about it?
So 1.5m people in the strets of London protesting was nothing "
he was still voted in after the 'war' so yes despite the opposition he was still elected and Labour still won in 05..
the Tories as the party on the other side of the house would have done exactly the same and never once during that time spoke out in opposition collectively to what went on..
i was there on the march in London and still maintain my position it was a mistake to join in with the USA but they would have gone in without us so in hindsight how different things may have been now is debatable..
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"To this day I find it amusing that inspite of Labour and Blair getting in by a significant margin it is almost impossible to find a single die hard, voted Labour all their life supporter who will own up to having voted Blair in.
Someone did, but I guess we all have our dirty little secrets. "
i did in the 97 election and 01 but not in 05..
always thought that he came across as a bit of a used car salesman but he had charisma and many on here who now slag him off were the ones who when he was leagues's ahead of any of the opposition elected him..
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Tony Blair is only about Tony Blair
He also helped pass a law that made the wicked witch a millionaire
He only has his own interest at heart
Peace envoy for middle east ?
Yeah right
Enough said "
who is the wicked witch ?
and doesn't everyone put themselves and family first |
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By *oyce69Man
over a year ago
Driffield |
"Tony Blair is only about Tony Blair
He also helped pass a law that made the wicked witch a millionaire
He only has his own interest at heart
Peace envoy for middle east ?
Yeah right
Enough said
who is the wicked witch ?
and doesn't everyone put themselves and family first"
The wicked witch is his crazy wife, and if your Prime Minister your country should come first. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Actually troops on the ground is the worst option unless we intend to colonise, which is ridiculous.
Actually the Iraq war and the Arab Spring has turned into a Islamic heatwave, Saddam, Assad, Gaddafi, kept a lid on it, Blair and Bush went in expecting a rush toward democracy, well the headed for the next strongest rulers the Imams. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I think Tony would do well too stay under the radar until the Chilcot report is published and the eyes of the world fix their collective stare on him and burn agonising holes through his very soul ..... "
That report would read like the official 911 commission report. Or the warren commission report for JFK.
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He'd get all three of my bullets the total cunt. I'm not usually this unladylike but I loathe and despise. He will burn in hell when he dies and I hope it's for all eternity the massive cock sucking dickhead prick!
Rant over. |
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By *eavenNhellCouple
over a year ago
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"To this day I find it amusing that inspite of Labour and Blair getting in by a significant margin it is almost impossible to find a single die hard, voted Labour all their life supporter who will own up to having voted Blair in.
Someone did, but I guess we all have our dirty little secrets. "
pretty much like finding some one who admited to voting for thatcher in late 80s |
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By (user no longer on site)
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I voted Labour in '97. Have tended to not vote for any of 'em since then (and Green last time, just because I'd prefer they'd got the protest vote rather than UKIP), but in the aftermath of the previous Tory government, Labour back then were a breath of fresh air. It's easy to forget how much I loathed and detested the previous Tory lot, but Cameron and his cronies have made it all too easy to remember that depressing weariness of knowing your leaders couldn't give a shit about you. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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I'm not exactly keen on Tony Blair but in his defence, all he ever did was speed up a problem we were always going you face!.
There's a small percentage of Muslims who are fucking nuts, Blair and bush just.... Pushed the right levers |
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"I think Tony would do well too stay under the radar until the Chilcot report is published and the eyes of the world fix their collective stare on him and burn agonising holes through his very soul .....
That report would read like the official 911 commission report. Or the warren commission report for JFK.
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You know who was on the warren commission? Tricky dicky!.
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The report won't say shit, they never have and never fucking will but they make the voting peasants feel like they've got a say |
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"I voted Labour in '97. Have tended to not vote for any of 'em since then (and Green last time, just because I'd prefer they'd got the protest vote rather than UKIP), but in the aftermath of the previous Tory government, Labour back then were a breath of fresh air. It's easy to forget how much I loathed and detested the previous Tory lot, but Cameron and his cronies have made it all too easy to remember that depressing weariness of knowing your leaders couldn't give a shit about you."
I tend not to vote because I'm that weird person politically sees good ideas and bad ideas in all the parties but you do realise that statistically the best PM of the last 40 yrs was John Major don't you achieved more in his short time than thatcher Blair or Cameron did or will do in ten |
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"I voted Labour in '97. Have tended to not vote for any of 'em since then (and Green last time, just because I'd prefer they'd got the protest vote rather than UKIP), but in the aftermath of the previous Tory government, Labour back then were a breath of fresh air. It's easy to forget how much I loathed and detested the previous Tory lot, but Cameron and his cronies have made it all too easy to remember that depressing weariness of knowing your leaders couldn't give a shit about you.
I tend not to vote because I'm that weird person politically sees good ideas and bad ideas in all the parties but you do realise that statistically the best PM of the last 40 yrs was John Major don't you achieved more in his short time than thatcher Blair or Cameron did or will do in ten"
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People who "belive" prosperity comes from certain political parties are..
Nuts.
Recessions come every 4-7 years regardless of whoever is in power, sometimes you get lucky and your in between, other times you go on a bit and the recession puts and end to your public perception of being gee whiz |
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"I tend not to vote because I'm that weird person politically sees good ideas and bad ideas in all the parties but you do realise that statistically the best PM of the last 40 yrs was John Major don't you achieved more in his short time than thatcher Blair or Cameron did or will do in ten"
Interesting idea. By what statistical measure? I often thought Major was a decent(ish) man surrounded by gits. And by 'gits' I mean pustulent slime mimicking human form. Except for the whole Edwina Currie thing 
I'm much the same though in that I'm not really allied to any one party. I tend to generally believe Labour have more heart but the Tories might have more brain. The best would probably be a fiscally-competent Labour or a genuinely caring Conservatives, but seeing as partisanship generally seems to mean they can't possibly work together, we're stuck with a pendulum between waste and greed.
Given the choice though, I'll always choose what looks the most compassionate option. Not sure anyone can honestly look at Cameron's lot and think "Now *there's* a group of people with all our best interests at heart." |
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