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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

Why oh why do car drivers move and block the passage of a motorbike filtering through traffic? Is it jealousy of the fact we can come through?

We have to put up with the danger and the weather...Please let us have the ability to get there faster, it's all we have!!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Why oh why do car drivers move and block the passage of a motorbike filtering through traffic? Is it jealousy of the fact we can come through?

We have to put up with the danger and the weather...Please let us have the ability to get there faster, it's all we have!!"

It annoys me, had a massive bruise once as a car driver decided to do just that as we were moving through..

I dont think most realise that your allowed to legally do so..

I always move over.... and get a nod from the bikers, easier if they have decent cans on though as you hear them coming..

Oh but why do scooter drivers have to scare me..as a biker myself I always look for bikes.. but went to move over for a group the other day and a scooter rider went up the inside of me.. shocking..

Katie. x

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By *uby In StockingsTV/TS over a year ago

Cheadle

I am certain some do it on purpose, I have seen it with my own eyes, however I have never had the same problem whilst riding in Europe, we brits are a funny bunch eh!!!!!, lol

hugz, Ruby, xxx

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

Two types of riders that scare me as an all year round biker....scooters and couriers.

I agree, i think car drivers think we are doing something illegal. Need to be educated on that one me thinks!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

If your filtering sensibly they shouldn't do it, some do it because they have no concept of the injuries they will cause us and they think it's clever, a car wing mirror comes off really easily you know and it's expensive to fix if you want to piss them back off.

I was on the M6 a while ago and some twat in his convertable looked over his shoulder at me and then moved right across me, I stopped and put the bike on the stand and walked towards him the look on his face was a picture, I told him that if he had not had the Lady with him I would be giving him a good hiding, he didn't look so brave then and the Lady apologised for him, I said to her enjoy your day and walked away

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"I am certain some do it on purpose, I have seen it with my own eyes, however I have never had the same problem whilst riding in Europe, we brits are a funny bunch eh!!!!!, lol

hugz, Ruby, xxx

ahhh..in germany it is illegal to filter...i just pleaded ignorance. to be honest until i was told i was ignorant

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

not a motor bike rider (wish i was) but ride a mountain bike. an a number of drivers are very care less an clue less about us being on the road

even 1 driver stop his car got out an i nearly went in to him his answer was i should be on the road

were i was on the foot path

funny thing is its a one way system so i had the right to be on the path

(just wish now i went into him see how far he sue me)

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"not a motor bike rider (wish i was) but ride a mountain bike. an a number of drivers are very care less an clue less about us being on the road

even 1 driver stop his car got out an i nearly went in to him his answer was i should be on the road

were i was on the foot path

funny thing is its a one way system so i had the right to be on the path

(just wish now i went into him see how far he sue me)"

admiration for all cyclists...you have all the disadvantages we have but with the power to avoid situations..hats off to you!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

The think bike campaign should of included educating drivers that bikes can filter.. not just to look out for them..

as summer comes I think that I will have a few choice words for other drivers.. I often now go to bike events and stick mates gear in my car as no longer have a bike.. and on way to big bike events you would think that the drivers would be better.. but no..

Saw people moving over to stop bikes trying to get into silverstone for the WSB.

Katie. x

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By *uby In StockingsTV/TS over a year ago

Cheadle

"I am certain some do it on purpose, I have seen it with my own eyes, however I have never had the same problem whilst riding in Europe, we brits are a funny bunch eh!!!!!, lol

hugz, Ruby, xxx

ahhh..in germany it is illegal to filter...i just pleaded ignorance. to be honest until i was told i was ignorant"

lol, yes love, they don't like it up em you know, lol

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"The think bike campaign should of included educating drivers that bikes can filter.. not just to look out for them..

Saw people moving over to stop bikes trying to get into silverstone for the WSB.

Katie. x"

i think it's the mentality of our country in general.. we do not have the balls to confront people personally but are happy to do so in a safe environment...ie from the comfort of a car or the anomninity of the internet..as the advert says 'get some nuts'

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By *uby In StockingsTV/TS over a year ago

Cheadle

at the end of the day it's how we are educated, in Denmark where I live half the time, the pedestrian is the primary road user, cyclist second, buses third and other forms fourth, it's quite scary if you are from england to just step out into the road and expect cars to stop, but they just do. the trick is to remember which country I am in, lol

xxxxxx

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

To be fair out where I live most people are bike friendly, but thats mostly because we are not that far from Matlock.. lol and loads of bike routes..

Although the traffic wardens have killed that off a bit as a nice sunday event.

Katie.x

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By *uby In StockingsTV/TS over a year ago

Cheadle

"To be fair out where I live most people are bike friendly, but thats mostly because we are not that far from Matlock.. lol and loads of bike routes..

Although the traffic wardens have killed that off a bit as a nice sunday event.

Katie.x"

ahhhhh, Matlock Bath, rolling back the years for me there sweetie, thanks, xxxxxx

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"To be fair out where I live most people are bike friendly, but thats mostly because we are not that far from Matlock.. lol and loads of bike routes..

Although the traffic wardens have killed that off a bit as a nice sunday event.

Katie.x"

Matlock bath is a great place, just watch out for the Police camera's on route, I've been there loads of times

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

i've never done it...but surely the fact that you have to endure the weather is a personal choice...we all want to get home.

there are also inconsiderate traits from some bikers...motor and cycle....but i guess that's another thread?!

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"i've never done it...but surely the fact that you have to endure the weather is a personal choice...we all want to get home.

there are also inconsiderate traits from some bikers...motor and cycle....but i guess that's another thread?!"

much less of a precentage of bikers are like that...i suppose because it's not just a dent that we are risking!!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Why oh why do car drivers move and block the passage of a motorbike filtering through traffic? Is it jealousy of the fact we can come through?

We have to put up with the danger and the weather...Please let us have the ability to get there faster, it's all we have!!"

If your going between 2 rows of cars going the same direction on a dual carriage way your undertaking the outside lane and that is not legal.

I always move out of the way as many bikers are dozy gits and struggle to control their bikes in traffic anyway.

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By *uby In StockingsTV/TS over a year ago

Cheadle

the battle between car and bike riders will go on forever, unless the driving tests are changed to include, cycling, motorcycling and car driving to truly enable you to be qualified to ride on the roads, each form of transport requires different skill levels, xxxxx

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Why oh why do car drivers move and block the passage of a motorbike filtering through traffic? Is it jealousy of the fact we can come through?

We have to put up with the danger and the weather...Please let us have the ability to get there faster, it's all we have!!

If your going between 2 rows of cars going the same direction on a dual carriage way your undertaking the outside lane and that is not legal.

I always move out of the way as many bikers are dozy gits and struggle to control their bikes in traffic anyway. "

please read the highway code...for bikes it's called filtering..i took my advanced test with a motorcycle police rider. omg...you just personified the ignorance and lack of understanding of most car drivers

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

another thing that annoys me with careless drives when; i just about to do a right turn my hand was clearly out an ready: a 4by4 car race in front of me an I almost fell of the bike

who is in fault here

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By *uby In StockingsTV/TS over a year ago

Cheadle

btw, up to now I've never seen a biker on the roads using their mobile, but I see about one in thirty car drivers doing it, this has to be the biggest danger to cyclists, bikers and pedestrians

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By *eighleedsMan over a year ago

leeds

Not had a bike for a while

But Squires in Sherbrun anyone, (i would have to use my dare i say it car to get there though)

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"btw, up to now I've never seen a biker on the roads using their mobile, but I see about one in thirty car drivers doing it, this has to be the biggest danger to cyclists, bikers and pedestrians

on that note..do did you know that pro rata, more pedestians are killed than motorcyle pillion passengers. by dozy car drivers mounting the pavement. so statistically it's safer to be on the back of a bike than walking down the road

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I'd suggest that the problem is, much like every other problem, people don't really give a fuck about others, anymore, unless it helps themselves.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"i've never done it...but surely the fact that you have to endure the weather is a personal choice...we all want to get home.

there are also inconsiderate traits from some bikers...motor and cycle....but i guess that's another thread?!

much less of a precentage of bikers are like that...i suppose because it's not just a dent that we are risking!!"

the majority around here are cyclists and these are narrow country lanes...however, when they come to a layby or wider stretch of road, do they move to the left side of the road to allow the built up traffic to ease? no...they continue in the centre of the road regardless...without exception i might add...never have i know a cyclists move aside or help.

motorcyclists normally drive out here en mass so yes, they do dominate the roads when they drive through....their actions are often what i consider dangerous and when i have precious cargo..i get pissed off by that...they swerve in and out of traffic at great speeds, sometimes illegally in no-overtaking zones....

there was a group once going at snails pace and spread over the road and quite enjoynig the fact there was a string of traffic behind unable to takeover...eventually some of us got past...we got to the next set of traffic lights and the buggars weaved through th traffic, sat at the head of the lights and continued on their very deliberate go slow...so yes, they are a culpable of being inconsiderate on the roads as car drivers

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"I'd suggest that the problem is, much like every other problem, people don't really give a fuck about others, anymore, unless it helps themselves."

and that my friend is the very sad truth

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"btw, up to now I've never seen a biker on the roads using their mobile, but I see about one in thirty car drivers doing it, this has to be the biggest danger to cyclists, bikers and pedestrians

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saw one on that cops show with a guy using mobile the footage is on you tube

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

To be honest sometimes I can be my own worst enemy on the bike especially on open roads where there is no traffic, in areas by schools and houses etc I always ride sensibly but have you notice the car drivers dropping the kids off and there on the phone as well

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I am always careful of motorcyles and pedal cyclists however.

I've lost count of the number of time motor cycle riders have undercut and cut in front of me. Causing me to swerve. The amount of times an idiot on a bike has been how do you say filtering and cant balance the bike properly and hit my car. The number of times a bike has driven past at speed while I was waiting in traffic and made me jump out of my skin.

It was a Motorcycle speeding that KILLED my grandfather on his 80th birthday while he was crossing on a zebra crossing.

So forgive me if I have no bloody sympathy whatsover.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"btw, up to now I've never seen a biker on the roads using their mobile, but I see about one in thirty car drivers doing it, this has to be the biggest danger to cyclists, bikers and pedestrians

i do know of bikers that have their headphones jacked in at full whack though....just as big a distraction and just as dangerous

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I am always careful of motorcyles and pedal cyclists however.

It was a Motorcycle speeding that KILLED my grandfather on his 80th birthday while he was crossing on a zebra crossing.

So forgive me if I have no bloody sympathy whatsover."

Sympathies for your loss but not all bikers are the same, I've lost many close friends through car drivers but dont tar them all with the same brush

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

i got a speeding ticket for doing 36 in a 30 zone. in my car. i admit to that. because it was only just over the limit i was offered a speed awarness course. in the course there were several interesting points made but the best one was the instructor said that if all car drivers were to possess a bike licence then accidents would be reduced dramatically...this was the instructor not me.

he said that bikers have a much better awarness of what's going on

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Sympathies for your loss but not all bikers are the same, I've lost many close friends through car drivers but dont tar them all with the same brush "

neither, may i add, are all drivers....

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"i got a speeding ticket for doing 36 in a 30 zone. in my car. i admit to that. because it was only just over the limit i was offered a speed awarness course. in the course there were several interesting points made but the best one was the instructor said that if all car drivers were to possess a bike licence then accidents would be reduced dramatically...this was the instructor not me.

he said that bikers have a much better awarness of what's going on"
that quote came fae the polis just show you how daft they can be an have not got a clue in what there talking about

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I am always careful of motorcyles and pedal cyclists however.

It was a Motorcycle speeding that KILLED my grandfather on his 80th birthday while he was crossing on a zebra crossing.

So forgive me if I have no bloody sympathy whatsover.

Sympathies for your loss but not all bikers are the same, I've lost many close friends through car drivers but dont tar them all with the same brush "

Thank you for your sympathies but I'm afraid as far as I'm concerned all Motorcylist are a danger to themselves and others. My opinion to which I am entitled and unless someone can bring my grandfather back my opinion will stay the same. And tar them with the same brush I shall.

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By *orestersCouple over a year ago

The Forest

Just a note for car drivers and bikers alike - if you are doing 40mph on a 40mph road, and you pull over to let a motorcyclist past, you can be charged with assisting a criminal offence (formerly known as aid and abetting).

It happened to a friend of mine when the local rozzers were having a fund-raiser - sorry, I mean crack-down.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I get real stressed when a bike passes

me as i have hit 3 while learning

the 1st one on my 4th driving lesson (i just didnt see him) the 2nd coz they cut me up and clipped the car so there own fault and the 3rd got punched off his bike into my car

if only they cud have there own bit of road lol i wud be sooo less stressed

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Just a note for car drivers and bikers alike - if you are doing 40mph on a 40mph road, and you pull over to let a motorcyclist past, you can be charged with assisting a criminal offence (formerly known as aid and abetting).

It happened to a friend of mine when the local rozzers were having a fund-raiser - sorry, I mean crack-down."

Nah. A solicitor would argue, successfully, that the motorist was simply taking action to avoid a motorcycle crashing into the back of his car.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

It happened to a friend of mine when the local rozzers were having a fund-raiser - sorry, I mean crack-down.

Nah. A solicitor would argue, successfully, that the motorist was simply taking action to avoid a motorcycle crashing into the back of his car."
so if we did not move what would the biker do then?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

We wouldnt have this problem if you all had horses and carriages

And me rhubarb would be bigger

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"We wouldnt have this problem if you all had horses and carriages

And me rhubarb would be bigger

lol..thanks for lightening the tone!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

As a cyclist,I've been knocked off by pedestrians stepping off the sidewalk without looking and motorists cutting me off when turning. Even had one ride into me from behind.

Having gone to all the rounds of the British Superbike Champs last year (photographer - tough job but someone has to do it)I was astounded by the reckless bikers at the end of the day. Definitely a minority, but a major tragedy waiting to happen.

Having cycled for the last 25 years, it has made me a better motorist.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"To be fair out where I live most people are bike friendly, but thats mostly because we are not that far from Matlock.. lol and loads of bike routes..

Although the traffic wardens have killed that off a bit as a nice sunday event.

Katie.x

Matlock bath is a great place, just watch out for the Police camera's on route, I've been there loads of times

they normally have the helicopter up.. but I am miss squeeky clean licence.. how the hell I have that I will never know.. just lucky I guess.. and riding a bike made me a far better driver..

(rode bikes for years before passing my test)

Katie.x

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"As a cyclist,I've been knocked off by pedestrians stepping off the sidewalk without looking and motorists cutting me off when turning. Even had one ride into me from behind.

Having cycled for the last 25 years, it has made me a better motorist."

after watching great riders some idiots try to re-enact. lucky they are in the minority

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

just been on the bike now over a year an I'm loving it keeps me fit takes me to places never think in going,

but just which car drivers just show dam respect for us as we do to you

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"just been on the bike now over a year an I'm loving it keeps me fit takes me to places never think in going,

but just which car drivers just show dam respect for us as we do to you "

as i said before i have respect for cylists...the only issue i have is when they go through red lights...surely that's just playing russian rullette?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"just been on the bike now over a year an I'm loving it keeps me fit takes me to places never think in going,

but just which car drivers just show dam respect for us as we do to you

as i said before i have respect for cylists...the only issue i have is when they go through red lights...surely that's just playing russian rullette?"
i dont go threw red lights lol

go on the path before n i make sure its all clear

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By *umpkinMan over a year ago

near the sounds of the wimborne quarter jack!

If your going between 2 rows of cars going the same direction on a dual carriage way your undertaking the outside lane and that is not legal.

I always move out of the way as many bikers are dozy gits and struggle to control their bikes in traffic anyway.

I`ll go with you on the filtering bit if the traffic is almost at a standstill but if the other traffic is moving at anything other than a crawl then I`m with those that say you`re undertaking which is definately not legal.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

It happened to a friend of mine when the local rozzers were having a fund-raiser - sorry, I mean crack-down.

Nah. A solicitor would argue, successfully, that the motorist was simply taking action to avoid a motorcycle crashing into the back of his car.so if we did not move what would the biker do then?"

The biker would do whatever the biker chose to. It has nothing to do with the motorist.

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By *egs11Couple over a year ago

Derbyshire

we both say the same about the bikes n cars , ,,,, bikerman 44chick

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I am always careful of motorcyles and pedal cyclists however.

It was a Motorcycle speeding that KILLED my grandfather on his 80th birthday while he was crossing on a zebra crossing.

So forgive me if I have no bloody sympathy whatsover.

Sympathies for your loss but not all bikers are the same, I've lost many close friends through car drivers but dont tar them all with the same brush

Then if we all think the way you do so are car drivers, motor cyclists and cyclists, good job we don't really

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By *urreyfun2008Man over a year ago

East Grinstead

"at the end of the day it's how we are educated, in Denmark where I live half the time, the pedestrian is the primary road user, cyclist second, buses third and other forms fourth, it's quite scary if you are from england to just step out into the road and expect cars to stop, but they just do. the trick is to remember which country I am in, lol

xxxxxx"

It does take a while to get used to, but seems some degree of respect is still afforded towards other people.

Another thing they don't just clear the road, they clear the cycle paths and pavements too when it snows.

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By *urreyfun2008Man over a year ago

East Grinstead

At end of the day most reasonable road users have irreplaceable bodies they want to keep or expensive hardware that they don't want a mess made of.

Alas no matter what mode of transport from trike to segway to 40 tonne lorry you will find enough people who have no concept of what can go wrong and the consequences of their actions.

A car is the most forgiving of little mistakes, whereas a bike or motorbike its not just a new tyre or panel, but perhaps a few weeks in a plaster cast, so you learn quickly. Or you are dead.

If speed cameras caught dangerous driving I would be happy for them to be there, e.g. that person 3 feet behind you in a 40mph average zone, a missed gear change and crunch.

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By *etitesaraTV/TS over a year ago

rochdale

"btw, up to now I've never seen a biker on the roads using their mobile, but I see about one in thirty car drivers doing it, this has to be the biggest danger to cyclists, bikers and pedestrians

In the interests of fairness....

Cycling to work yesterday ( i commute by bike, ride mtb's and road ride) i came up behind a chap on a cycle acting rather oddly. He was riding really slowly, holding up traffic and wobbling about across the white line.

When i came alongside him i realised he was cycling one-handed, looking down at his phone whilst he was texting!

I couldn't believe how stupid he was being, only the fact that it was 07:30hrs and the road was very quiet that prevented him from being a RTA statistic.

Having said that, yes, i see many more drivers using handheld devices than other road users but the above just goes to show that idiots are everywhere.

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By *etitesaraTV/TS over a year ago

rochdale

"i've never done it...but surely the fact that you have to endure the weather is a personal choice...we all want to get home.

there are also inconsiderate traits from some bikers...motor and cycle....but i guess that's another thread?!

much less of a precentage of bikers are like that...i suppose because it's not just a dent that we are risking!!

Not having seen the incident i question i can't comment on it.

However, many road cyclists will often ride 2-up in a tight formation (as they are legally allowed to do so) in order to make their enviroment safer.

The reasoning is thus, 6 bikes riding 2-up close together are approximately the same shape/width as a small car whereas a long string of single cyclists are a LOT harder to pass safely than a slow moving car-shaped mass.

Think about this, on a single lane road a motorist attempts to overtake a single string of cycles strung out over 75/100yards and moving at 20mph. The motorist attempts the manoevre, sees a car coming the other way and realises they don't have the time and space to complete the action, they then pull back into the lane right on top of several cyclists and driving into them.

That's why cyclists ride 2-up. It's not to do with deliberately attempting to slow up traffic (they are traffic) but rather to impose a safer road enviroment around them.

Also, riding in single file can encourage motorists to make riskier overtaking manoevres when there really isnt the space (heading into traffic-calming islands for example) and causing an accident.

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By *etitesaraTV/TS over a year ago

rochdale

"I get real stressed when a bike passes

me as i have hit 3 while learning

the 1st one on my 4th driving lesson (i just didnt see him) the 2nd coz they cut me up and clipped the car so there own fault and the 3rd got punched off his bike into my car

if only they cud have there own bit of road lol i wud be sooo less stressed "

Actually it sound like you are the one who would benefit from a secular piece of road!

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By *etitesaraTV/TS over a year ago

rochdale

"just been on the bike now over a year an I'm loving it keeps me fit takes me to places never think in going,

but just which car drivers just show dam respect for us as we do to you

as i said before i have respect for cylists...the only issue i have is when they go through red lights...surely that's just playing russian rullette?"

As a cyclist i agree completely.

Idiotic, dangerous and completely reprehensible.

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By *etitesaraTV/TS over a year ago

rochdale

"I am always careful of motorcyles and pedal cyclists however.

It was a Motorcycle speeding that KILLED my grandfather on his 80th birthday while he was crossing on a zebra crossing.

So forgive me if I have no bloody sympathy whatsover.

Sympathies for your loss but not all bikers are the same, I've lost many close friends through car drivers but dont tar them all with the same brush "

Interesting one this.

Cyclists very often get tarred with the same brush - all being red-light jumping, road-hogging menaces who shouldn't be on the road etc.

Motorcyclists - all speed-crazed lunatics on powerful suicide machines with no regards for the law etc.

Car drivers don't get the same mass opprobrium though do they? In my my this is because most people don't cycle, most people don't ride bikes so they have no understanding and/or empathy for those types of transport, they are all just 'they'.

However, most adults are car drivers so when we see some stupid, dangerous, thoughtless and ignorant action we don't think "all car drivers are wankers" because WE are car drivers and WE KNOW that WE are not wankers - don't we?

Only when the mass of motorists stop thinking of 'them' and start to realise that an idiot is an idiot regardless of their mode of transport then will the situation improve.

We all also need to understand that our journey is in no way any more important than anybody elses - and certainly not more important than another persons safety and health.

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By *ex.IncCouple over a year ago

Castleford

Most bikers round here get that far up my arse its scary. I'll generally try pull as far over as possible to let them pass rather than worry about having to brake and a biker sitting in the back seat.

Occasionally ill get the wave to say thanks which makes it worthwhile.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

i go with that to in our town you can't pass ..1 they dont know how wide there cars are so don't move over ..2 i don't think they want you to get there quicker them them ..get off my soapbox now

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

im a nice car driver and pull in to let a biker pass

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

It was a Motorcycle speeding that KILLED my grandfather on his 80th birthday while he was crossing on a zebra crossing.

So forgive me if I have no bloody sympathy whatsover."

...and it was two tourists in a car that hit and KILLED my partner while he was riding his motorbike on a local road less than a mile from home.

PEOPLE kill, not the machines...no matter two or four wheels, powered or pedalled.

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By *atisfy janeWoman over a year ago

Torquay

You get idiots driving cars

You get idiots riding motorbikes

You get idiots riding bicycles

An idiot is an idiot, you get them on all modes of transport, it's ok having biased views depending on your personal choice of transport....but anyone who can't accept that it isn't the mode of transport but the driver/rider is deluded.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I don't have a problem with bikers and often move closer to the kerb to let them past. I just wish they would keep to the speed limits lol

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

was on on the road (c class) was a lot of flooded water an holes i was trying 2 avoid them when this speeding(idiot)motorist who had no due care what so ever scream pass me an i had 2 break hard to avoid a deep hole

no way i was going to get the bike damage or even myself injured for that idiot

just wanna make me scream (rant over)

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I am always careful of motorcyles and pedal cyclists however.

It was a Motorcycle speeding that KILLED my grandfather on his 80th birthday while he was crossing on a zebra crossing.

So forgive me if I have no bloody sympathy whatsover.

Sympathies for your loss but not all bikers are the same, I've lost many close friends through car drivers but dont tar them all with the same brush

We'll that makes you a biggot, you can not tar a particular group of people the same brush. I feel sorry for people like you, because you make the world an ugly place. you do have my sympathies, but not my respect.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I'm intrigued, how and why has this thread been dragged up after so long!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I was just having a gander at the forums and thought i'd put my two pennies worth in.

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