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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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So the US has kicked off the controversial "toilet gate" when it comes to transgender kids and which toilets they can use.
Where do you stand with this? Should kids use the toilet of the se they were born? Or the one they identify with?? |
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I couldn't give a hoot which loo they use, we all have to go. With regard to adult transgende_ed people, the company my wife works for uses genetalia as the deciding factor. So if a transgende_ed guy is pretty op then "he" has to use male toilets. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"So the US has kicked off the controversial "toilet gate" when it comes to transgender kids and which toilets they can use.
Where do you stand with this? Should kids use the toilet of the se they were born? Or the one they identify with??"
A bearded looking fellow in the ladies toilet? A lady in the gentlemans? Wouldn't that cause more of an issue?
(And even the police have said that they really have no idea how they will enforce it). |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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You are thinking about adults. The ruling was based around schools like changing rooms toilets. So same applies what are your thoughts for this in your kids schools |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Unless you are squeamish about seeing someone squat over the urinals I can't see what all the fuss is about .....
I mean so long as your careful and don't allow your skirt too dangle onto the pube traps there is nothing gross about it at all...... ![](/icons/s/2/halo.gif) |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"You are thinking about adults. The ruling was based around schools like changing rooms toilets. So same applies what are your thoughts for this in your kids schools"
The US ruling was about adults. Well, about toilets.
Here, we tend to go with what the person thinks. Children should be allowed to piss and poop in whatever toilet they feel most comfortable in. Not exactly going to turn the world upside down. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Identified gender, because unless there is a gender inspection on my he door then how are you gonna know, and just because someone is born in the wrong my body, is that reason for anyone to treat them with less respect, it's a toilet, what do you think is going to happen? Are there people who still think they have so much sex appeal, that they are going to get jumped on?
Watch this and get edumacated
https://youtu.be/PxJIGvb_EUM
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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i use the mens if i can't hold it in because the queues are shorter, nobody says anything.
not sure why toilets are separated by gender anyway? does anyone know why they did that? |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Identified gender, because unless there is a gender inspection on my he door then how are you gonna know, and just because someone is born in the wrong my body, is that reason for anyone to treat them with less respect, it's a toilet, what do you think is going to happen? Are there people who still think they have so much sex appeal, that they are going to get jumped on?
Watch this and get edumacated
https://youtu.be/PxJIGvb_EUM
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Wind your neck in I asked your opinion on the matter I didn't pass judgement on it. |
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By *edMan
over a year ago
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"i use the mens if i can't hold it in because the queues are shorter, nobody says anything.
not sure why toilets are separated by gender anyway? does anyone know why they did that?"
There is a basic difference...
In the men's loos all the seats are up and in the women's they are down ![](/icons/s/mrgreen.gif) |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"You are thinking about adults. The ruling was based around schools like changing rooms toilets. So same applies what are your thoughts for this in your kids schools
The US ruling was about adults. Well, about toilets.
Here, we tend to go with what the person thinks. Children should be allowed to piss and poop in whatever toilet they feel most comfortable in. Not exactly going to turn the world upside down."
And yes the ruling was made for schools |
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"i use the mens if i can't hold it in because the queues are shorter, nobody says anything.
not sure why toilets are separated by gender anyway? does anyone know why they did that?
There is a basic difference...
In the men's loos all the seats are up and in the women's they are down "
Have to say that is not true in my experience....just a myth perpetuated by the media ![](/icons/s/mrgreen.gif) |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Identified gender, because unless there is a gender inspection on my he door then how are you gonna know, and just because someone is born in the wrong my body, is that reason for anyone to treat them with less respect, it's a toilet, what do you think is going to happen? Are there people who still think they have so much sex appeal, that they are going to get jumped on?
Watch this and get edumacated
https://youtu.be/PxJIGvb_EUM
Wind your neck in I asked your opinion on the matter I didn't pass judgement on it."
I never said you did, and don't tell me to wind my neck in, you asked for my opinion I gave my opinion, no need to be so fucking rude about it |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"i use the mens if i can't hold it in because the queues are shorter, nobody says anything.
not sure why toilets are separated by gender anyway? does anyone know why they did that?"
I see your point but out on the town late at night probably on your own would you feel comfortable walking in the gents? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"They used to have separate swimming baths back in the Victorian times. Probably stemmed from that line of thinking. "
thanks. gonna have a google about victorian baths and segregation. |
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"Identified gender, because unless there is a gender inspection on my he door then how are you gonna know, and just because someone is born in the wrong my body, is that reason for anyone to treat them with less respect, it's a toilet, what do you think is going to happen? Are there people who still think they have so much sex appeal, that they are going to get jumped on?
Watch this and get edumacated
https://youtu.be/PxJIGvb_EUM
Wind your neck in I asked your opinion on the matter I didn't pass judgement on it.
I never said you did, and don't tell me to wind my neck in, you asked for my opinion I gave my opinion, no need to be so fucking rude about it"
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"i use the mens if i can't hold it in because the queues are shorter, nobody says anything.
not sure why toilets are separated by gender anyway? does anyone know why they did that?
I see your point but out on the town late at night probably on your own would you feel comfortable walking in the gents? "
maybe. although i'd forgotten about glory holes. ![](/icons/s/eek.gif) |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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This whole law is just cosying up to the Christian right wing in the states.
It's about time we took the extremely religious to one side and said... Listen if it offends you... Tuff fucking luck |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"i use the mens if i can't hold it in because the queues are shorter, nobody says anything.
not sure why toilets are separated by gender anyway? does anyone know why they did that?
I see your point but out on the town late at night probably on your own would you feel comfortable walking in the gents?
maybe. although i'd forgotten about glory holes. "
Yep that thing coming through the wall might not be a toilet roll holder ![](/icons/s/biggrin.gif) |
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"i use the mens if i can't hold it in because the queues are shorter, nobody says anything.
not sure why toilets are separated by gender anyway? does anyone know why they did that?
I see your point but out on the town late at night probably on your own would you feel comfortable walking in the gents? "
Yep. Done it at twickers with about ten men standing at the urinals, done it at the train station afterwards cos the women's was across a bridge, done it all over the place and I always go to the toilet on my own ![](/icons/s/2/eh.gif) |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"i use the mens if i can't hold it in because the queues are shorter, nobody says anything.
not sure why toilets are separated by gender anyway? does anyone know why they did that?
I see your point but out on the town late at night probably on your own would you feel comfortable walking in the gents?
maybe. although i'd forgotten about glory holes.
Yep that thing coming through the wall might not be a toilet roll holder "
am sure most toilets don't have one really haha.
anyway wikipedia have a whole section on the history of toilet segregation. it's pretty interesting.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urinary_segregation |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Identified gender is I assume what happens with adults so it clearly should be the same for children.
I'm bot sure where political correctness comes in to that |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Yes it was an article I read about the history of the aberdeen bath house at the beach. It may have been on a plaque at the facility or may have been a news paper article. People used to go there to wash. Women one entrance and men the other.
So the women weren't caught in a state of undress heaven forbid the men saw a stockinged ankle.
My line of thought is separate bathrooms came from that. |
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My self and a group of ladies made a guy stand outside the mens toilets at a football match once ( no guys in there)
We were all desperate .....when u gotta go u gotta go ..... the ladies loos were rammed .. ![](/icons/s/2/cute.gif) |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"This whole law is just cosying up to the Christian right wing in the states.
It's about time we took the extremely religious to one side and said... Listen if it offends you... Tuff fucking luck"
I agree with you here. And for anyone who doesn't think this is all about religion in the US, they should try having some of the conversations I've had since I landed in nyc. They would soon see the reality of it. ![](/icons/s/neutral.gif) |
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"Identified gender, because unless there is a gender inspection on my he door then how are you gonna know, and just because someone is born in the wrong my body, is that reason for anyone to treat them with less respect, it's a toilet, what do you think is going to happen? Are there people who still think they have so much sex appeal, that they are going to get jumped on?
Watch this and get edumacated
https://youtu.be/PxJIGvb_EUM
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Nobody is born in the wrong body. It's their body |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"As long as it's at the back of the line that's fine. Not fair to jump to the front of the line"
Well done, this is the most English post I have ever seen, "I don't care if your male, female, or transgender, but we que in this country
I'm not having a go, it just reads like we English will accept any one as long as they don't que jump or put the milk in before the hot water lol ![](/icons/s/mrgreen.gif) |
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"As long as it's at the back of the line that's fine. Not fair to jump to the front of the line
Well done, this is the most English post I have ever seen, "I don't care if your male, female, or transgender, but we que in this country
I'm not having a go, it just reads like we English will accept any one as long as they don't que jump or put the milk in before the hot water lol "
Thank you. Queue jumping is unforgivable |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"As long as it's at the back of the line that's fine. Not fair to jump to the front of the line
Well done, this is the most English post I have ever seen, "I don't care if your male, female, or transgender, but we que in this country
I'm not having a go, it just reads like we English will accept any one as long as they don't que jump or put the milk in before the hot water lol
Thank you. Queue jumping is unforgivable "
You might want to have a word with the old people of Birmingham then, I expected better from them ![](/icons/s/mrgreen.gif) |
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"All this guidance is great but the girls I work with say they would feel uncomfortable with a TV or TS in their toilets "
I would think so too that women in general would. I laugh a bit when women say they use the gents when ladies busy. Would they feel OK with men using the ladies too. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"All this guidance is great but the girls I work with say they would feel uncomfortable with a TV or TS in their toilets
I would think so too that women in general would. I laugh a bit when women say they use the gents when ladies busy. Would they feel OK with men using the ladies too."
so long as he's not taking an hour to have a shit. ![](/icons/thumb_up.png) |
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By *woOfaKindCouple
over a year ago
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I certainly do not speak for the entire USA, so please take my opinion with a grain of salt.
I think that a lot of people over here still believe that any gay male or female is also a sexual deviant and pedofile. So you can only imagine what they think about transgende_ed people, cross dressers, or even bi-sexuals.
What I am trying to say is that anything other than a moderately religious heterosexual makes a lot of Americans nervous. They just don't know how to handle it, and in their minds, this whole bathroom thing is like having twisted freaks who are prone to commit sexual assaults in the same bathroom they are in....and they don't like it.
Again, that is not all Yanks opinions, or even most. But many people cannot fathom anything other than what they consider 'normal', so something like this causes uproar.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I LOVE that the toilets in VA is for men and women, and whoever else!
It's just refreshing and a nice change. Same with Pink Punters too.
The only problem I have is when you want to disappear off to talk about a guy you like with a mate, you can't chat in the toilets any more because they might walk in! Doh.
Lots of women use chatting in the toilets to deal with emotional crises, and they don't want the guys to see it so I can see why people would oppose totally mixed toilets. But fuck 'em, it would solve the entire issue! |
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