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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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there was a thing on the local news earlier and they were asking people to email the studio if they are buying any souvineers of prince william and kate middletons wedding....i thought what the fuck?
i sent an email in saying yes im buying the dress,the cake,the cars,the church,the reception,the honeymoon infact everything and i signed it 'uk taxpayer' .......they didnt read it out though lol!!!!!
does anybody else think that, as the rest of us are getting screwed by this goverment for every penny we have got, it is wrong that we should be financing this wedding thats gunna cost over a million pound all in all?
personally i think its a disgrace and an insult to all us hardworking taxpayers!!!!!!!!
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"there was a thing on the local news earlier and they were asking people to email the studio if they are buying any souvineers of prince william and kate middletons wedding....i thought what the fuck?
i sent an email in saying yes im buying the dress,the cake,the cars,the church,the reception,the honeymoon infact everything and i signed it 'uk taxpayer' .......they didnt read it out though lol!!!!!
does anybody else think that, as the rest of us are getting screwed by this goverment for every penny we have got, it is wrong that we should be financing this wedding thats gunna cost over a million pound all in all?
personally i think its a disgrace and an insult to all us hardworking taxpayers!!!!!!!!
rant over "
Who said the taxpayer is paying for it? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Lol, it has been quoted that the cost on police alone for the being £20 million pounds to police the event by the london met force, £1 million is nothing to them, sorry, us...
"there was a thing on the local news earlier
and they were asking people to email the studio if they are buying any souvineers of prince william and kate middletons wedding....i thought what the fuck?
i sent an email in saying yes im buying the dress,the cake,the cars,the church,the reception,the honeymoon infact everything and i signed it 'uk taxpayer' .......they didnt read it out though lol!!!!!
does anybody else think that, as the rest of us are getting screwed by this goverment for every penny we have got, it is wrong that we should be financing this wedding thats gunna cost over a million pound all in all?
personally i think its a disgrace and an insult to all us hardworking taxpayers!!!!!!!!
rant over "
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"there was a thing on the local news earlier and they were asking people to email the studio if they are buying any souvineers of prince william and kate middletons wedding....i thought what the fuck?
i sent an email in saying yes im buying the dress,the cake,the cars,the church,the reception,the honeymoon infact everything and i signed it 'uk taxpayer' .......they didnt read it out though lol!!!!!
does anybody else think that, as the rest of us are getting screwed by this goverment for every penny we have got, it is wrong that we should be financing this wedding thats gunna cost over a million pound all in all?
personally i think its a disgrace and an insult to all us hardworking taxpayers!!!!!!!!
rant over
Who said the taxpayer is paying for it?"
its a public funded wedding as all state events are hence the extra bank holiday on may 29th,which incidentally employers are not legally bound to pay employees for as it isnt being classed as a statutary bank holiday due to eu regulations |
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Actually the only cost to the UK taxpayer is security, three quarters of which is being covered by the Met Police....the rest by the Armed Forces.
The Home Office put the security cost at around £12 million....The Daily Mail put it at anything between £20 million and £27 million....depending on which day they published the story....and which way the wind was blowing when they wrote it.
The Met Police reported back to the Mayor of London that there are estimated to be between 500,000 and 700,000 people coming into London over a three day period to see the wedding and celebrate it.
Even at 500,000 people that is a security bill of about £24 per person....the office of the Mayor of London told the Evening Standard newspaper that they expect upwards of an extra £60 million to be spent by visitors to London over that Three day period.
Can you see now how this is a financial golden egg for Hotels, Restaurants, Cafes etc. in London?
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Well as my invitation has obviously got lost in the post I am taking myself off somewhere warm and will be sitting in a beach, cold drink in one hand and in the other hand? One lives in hope
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By *obletonMan
over a year ago
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Even at 500,000 people that is a security bill of about £24 per person....the office of the Mayor of London told the Evening Standard newspaper that they expect upwards of an extra £60 million to be spent by visitors to London over that Three day period.
Can you see now how this is a financial golden egg for Hotels, Restaurants, Cafes etc. in London?
Money well spent then"
Or put another way, the public purse takes the losses while the profits are privatised.
If its going to be that much of a windfall for london businesses then why don't they foot the bill?
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Even at 500,000 people that is a security bill of about £24 per person....the office of the Mayor of London told the Evening Standard newspaper that they expect upwards of an extra £60 million to be spent by visitors to London over that Three day period.
Can you see now how this is a financial golden egg for Hotels, Restaurants, Cafes etc. in London?
Money well spent then
Or put another way, the public purse takes the losses while the profits are privatised.
If its going to be that much of a windfall for london businesses then why don't they foot the bill?
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They do.....Londoners pay for their Police force in their Council Taxes and Business Rates |
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Could not put it any better than _obleton.
None of the money profited in London will benefit anyone, except those businesses and organisations.
Yet we'll all pay for our supposed 'betters' to get married, because they are apparantly appointed by a God somewhere.
It'd be better if they got married in a registry office, we can't afford all thise shite a s a nation.
Better still if we were a Republic.
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By (user no longer on site)
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Or put another way, the public purse takes the losses while the profits are privatised.
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That could easily be the motto of the Tory Party. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Who said the taxpayer is paying for it?"
It's invariably the taxpayer who gets it in the neck.
Same last year when the Chief Liar popped over from Rome for a wee holiday.
All sorts of promises were made, and broken, about who'd be paying for what. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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Even at 500,000 people that is a security bill of about £24 per person....the office of the Mayor of London told the Evening Standard newspaper that they expect upwards of an extra £60 million to be spent by visitors to London over that Three day period.
Can you see now how this is a financial golden egg for Hotels, Restaurants, Cafes etc. in London?
Money well spent then
Or put another way, the public purse takes the losses while the profits are privatised.
If its going to be that much of a windfall for london businesses then why don't they foot the bill?
They do.....Londoners pay for their Police force in their Council Taxes and Business Rates"
would this be the same police force that is laying off thousands of frontline officers to cut costs and save public money i know a better way to save public money.......registry office and a couple of pork pies in a local pub for will and kate! |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Can you see now how this is a financial golden egg for Hotels, Restaurants, Cafes etc. in London?
Money well spent then"
You have to wonder just how much of that alleged windfall actually stays in the UK.
PS. It ain't just this wedding - they'll be trotting out the same nonsense to justify the cost of London 2012 and I fully expect Glasgow 2014 will try the same crap. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Absolutely if the rish want to get married and create more pheasant shooting, tory voting little lord fontleroys then why should we pay for them.
People come to the UK for history and culture, nobody meets the bloody Queen.
To simply drone on about the age old deception that somehow a monarchy benefits our economy is naivety and also the a worrying portrayal of a populace who believes everything they read or watch in the media.
FFS the BBC can't even use the words 'electoral reform' because the tory Party asked them not too as AV is a real threat to their dominance.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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wonder if got married the queen pay for mine lol .....think money could be spent better to be honest but will be lovely to see them married if i was her do it quiet not in public eye .  |
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London has by far the highest business rates in the country, so you will find that London businesses not only benefit from the largest proportion of tourists anywhere in the UK....but pay greatly towards day to day security and policing of those tourists and visitors to the capital. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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The reason they're getting married in the year 2011 is because it is the worst year of cuts (according to the gov't, could get worse mind you) so the establishment think a royal wedding will take everyone's minds of it. Like it's that easy!
I reckon Cameron and Clegg asked the Royals to help them out, they all inter-connected and interbred and probably have dirt on each another's family members from the shower rooms in Eton, etc.
So the wealthy do each other favours. They all have a vested interest.
It's your money, if you're not happy with how it's spent do something.
Is Fabswingers the start of an awakening in the social conscience? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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The reason they're getting married in the year 2011 is because it is the worst year of cuts (according to the gov't, could get worse mind you) so the establishment think a royal wedding will take everyone's minds of it. Like it's that easy!
I reckon Cameron and Clegg asked the Royals to help them out, they all inter-connected and interbred and probably have dirt on each another's family members from the shower rooms in Eton, etc.
So the wealthy do each other favours. They all have a vested interest.
It's your money, if you're not happy with how it's spent do something.
Is Fabswingers the start of an awakening in the social conscience? |
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"Could not put it any better than _obleton.
None of the money profited in London will benefit anyone, except those businesses and organisations.
Yet we'll all pay for our supposed 'betters' to get married, because they are apparantly appointed by a God somewhere.
It'd be better if they got married in a registry office, we can't afford all thise shite a s a nation.
Better still if we were a Republic.
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The Royal family cost every taxpayer 62p in the last financial year.....you over estimate the costs of having a Royal family I think.
And the people who work for those businesses in London that benefit from the influx of tourists will by default themselves benefit by way of wages and overtime during the wedding weekend.
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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royal weddings lets look at some of the main ones over the past few years:
charles and diana -divorced
anne and mark-divorced
fergie and andrew-divorced
sophie and edward-now own private
company and never done
a public duty since
now tell me our money isnt being thrown away! |
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Day to day security in the UK would be a lot less if we had not got involved in Bush's 'War on Terror', wasn't that really to do with making money, oil, capitalism, the West's dominance?
Yet petrol is at £1.30 and set to get even higher. That one really worked out well... Was it worth invading Iraq and Afghaninistan?
Have we as a country benefited in any way?
Has anyone but arms dealers and oil barons made a ny money?
And s the actually democracy out there?
No, there isn't even democracy here.
Why should anyone believe the Royal Wedding will be of any real benefit to anyone.
And why do they need security? Becuase as a nation we're really unhappy, disillusioned, divided, desparate, etc.
Tackle the root cause, reform. Don't just invest in what is already a Police state, we all saw the student riots.
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"Day to day security in the UK would be a lot less if we had not got involved in Bush's 'War on Terror', wasn't that really to do with making money, oil, capitalism, the West's dominance?
Yet petrol is at £1.30 and set to get even higher. That one really worked out well... Was it worth invading Iraq and Afghaninistan?
Have we as a country benefited in any way?
Has anyone but arms dealers and oil barons made a ny money?
And s the actually democracy out there?
No, there isn't even democracy here.
Why should anyone believe the Royal Wedding will be of any real benefit to anyone.
And why do they need security? Becuase as a nation we're really unhappy, disillusioned, divided, desparate, etc.
Tackle the root cause, reform. Don't just invest in what is already a Police state, we all saw the student riots.
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And that has exactly what to do with the Royal Wedding?
Am I missing something here? |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Could not put it any better than _obleton.
None of the money profited in London will benefit anyone, except those businesses and organisations.
Yet we'll all pay for our supposed 'betters' to get married, because they are apparantly appointed by a God somewhere.
It'd be better if they got married in a registry office, we can't afford all thise shite a s a nation.
Better still if we were a Republic.
The Royal family cost every taxpayer 62p in the last financial year.....you over estimate the costs of having a Royal family I think.
And the people who work for those businesses in London that benefit from the influx of tourists will by default themselves benefit by way of wages and overtime during the wedding weekend.
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62p per taxpayer in the uk is that all lol..........thats 62p to much as why should we pay anything to keep them in there lavish life style whilst the majority of families in this country who genuinly need financial help to survive get next to sod all if anything at all that is,its a disgrace in my eyes,i say bang all the royals on jobseekers allowance,show them a bit of the real uk!!!!! |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Why do we need a monarchy, why do we still need an aristocracy, the former supports a latter.
I am concerned because I do not see any logical and importantly any democratic reason to have a second chamber that is not democratically elected. The House of Lords is corrupt essentially and a monarchy of any forms supports the elevated status of 'our peers'.
I can't be bothered arguing about pence in the pound, my beef isn't solely economic it's political. It's about who has the power to decide.
It effects you aswell.
Kings and Queeens belong in the past. And the Lords belong in the Thames.
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Lets put it another way that might make some sense....
London's Overseas Tourist total spend was around £8.9 Billion in 2009....or over 60% of the total Overseas Tourist spend in the UK.
The fact is that Overseas tourists will spend over £1 Billion in London during the month of the Royal Wedding, and a big part of that is because of our Royal Family, love them or hate them, they are a big attraction to Overseas Tourists and generate far far more than they will ever cost the UK taxpayer.
We all benefit from that in one way or another |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Royal Wedding's happen once in a blue moon, if that is a fact about it benefiting everyone I'd question such a source and I'd point to the N S divide and poorer regions such as the NE, Rural Cornwall etc, who never see any money filtering down from London. Whether a wedding or the 2012 Games, etc.
Most toursits come here for the history, all the Royal buildings etc would remain even if we had no monarchy.
They're not needed.
Forget economics, the monarchy supports the establishment and vice versa. The political system which the establishment supports has crippled this country.
If you look at all the posts the majority of people are sick of a wealthy elite who govern us, they do not want to see a wealthy elite marriage.
It is that simple.
To base an argument purely on projected growth and economics is to ignore the wants and feelings of a people, it takes more than money to win people over.
Only one person in this forum really is in favour, I wonder what the national feelig really is? is this a microcosm? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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London has by far the highest business rates in the country, so you will find that London businesses not only benefit from the largest proportion of tourists anywhere in the UK....but pay greatly towards day to day security and policing of those tourists and visitors to the capital."
Please...DON'T remind me! I pay a fortune for the "honour" of living in London. I doubt I'll get a concessionary Olympic ticket though by way of a thank you! |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Lets put it another way that might make some sense....
London's Overseas Tourist total spend was around £8.9 Billion in 2009....or over 60% of the total Overseas Tourist spend in the UK.
The fact is that Overseas tourists will spend over £1 Billion in London during the month of the Royal Wedding, and a big part of that is because of our Royal Family, love them or hate them, they are a big attraction to Overseas Tourists and generate far far more than they will ever cost the UK taxpayer.
We all benefit from that in one way or another"
father christmas is a big attraction in the trafford centre as young children are lead to believe he does all these good things for us when infact we all know its not true,your point about overseas visitors coming to this country for the royal family is kinda the same as the visitors are lead to believe all these good things about the royals!
its us poor sods who have to pay for them that know they actually do sod all!
the point in my OP was why should we be paying for this lavish wedding when the country is on its arse surely the money would be better spent elsewhere,like on the people who actually need it,they should be ashamed the whole lot of them!!!! |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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they should put the needs of the country first rather then there own greed,they already have more than enough money of ours in there own pockets to pay for it so why expect us still foot the bill,that family fleece this country for there own enjoyment,and we meant to wave our union jacks and cheer ........not a chance!!!! |
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Ok......I'll say it again because for some reason you don't get it....the cost of the added security for policing the Royal wedding is around £12 million according to the Home Office (or £20-£27 million if you believe the Daily Mail)
Either way.....£12 Million or £20 Million, will be dwarfed by the income from the wedding and the boost that increased visitors will give to the economy.
And before anyone rattles on about that extra income going to the Private Sector....it is that income that is ploughed back into the economy via jobs, utilities, contracts and taxes.
Without growth in the Private Sector this country would die....and if you don't see that then it is pointless trying to explain it to you further.
Your distaste for the Royal Family clouds your vision when it comes to using common sense.
It is widely accepted that the overall cost to the taxpayer for the Civil List is dwarfed by the income generated through tourism.
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Due to the fact that I can't do anything about it... I'm going to take the extra holiday, add three days of my own holiday and have about a week and a half off! 
I'm looking at the positives rather than moaning about the stuff I can't do anything about. |
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Even at 500,000 people that is a security bill of about £24 per person....the office of the Mayor of London told the Evening Standard newspaper that they expect upwards of an extra £60 million to be spent by visitors to London over that Three day period.
Can you see now how this is a financial golden egg for Hotels, Restaurants, Cafes etc. in London?
Money well spent then
Or put another way, the public purse takes the losses while the profits are privatised.
If its going to be that much of a windfall for london businesses then why don't they foot the bill?
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that was my thought to....i know where i live won't be seeing the benefit of it.
yet again the government commit the services to pulling money out of their pocket to help police this...then tell them that they are culpable for a large deficit in their budget
go figure... |
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Even at 500,000 people that is a security bill of about £24 per person....the office of the Mayor of London told the Evening Standard newspaper that they expect upwards of an extra £60 million to be spent by visitors to London over that Three day period.
Can you see now how this is a financial golden egg for Hotels, Restaurants, Cafes etc. in London?
Money well spent then
Or put another way, the public purse takes the losses while the profits are privatised.
If its going to be that much of a windfall for london businesses then why don't they foot the bill?
that was my thought to....i know where i live won't be seeing the benefit of it.
yet again the government commit the services to pulling money out of their pocket to help police this...then tell them that they are culpable for a large deficit in their budget
go figure..."
22p per head from every taxpayer in the UK to cover the costs of extra security on the day.....
Small change |
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Even at 500,000 people that is a security bill of about £24 per person....the office of the Mayor of London told the Evening Standard newspaper that they expect upwards of an extra £60 million to be spent by visitors to London over that Three day period.
Can you see now how this is a financial golden egg for Hotels, Restaurants, Cafes etc. in London?
Money well spent then
Or put another way, the public purse takes the losses while the profits are privatised.
If its going to be that much of a windfall for london businesses then why don't they foot the bill?
that was my thought to....i know where i live won't be seeing the benefit of it.
yet again the government commit the services to pulling money out of their pocket to help police this...then tell them that they are culpable for a large deficit in their budget
go figure...
22p per head from every taxpayer in the UK to cover the costs of extra security on the day.....
Small change"
so....25% of the cost of security is being funded by the armed forces....11'000 service jobs being cut because of the hole in the budget.
now, you ask those men that are facing redundancy if they're happy to support the royal wedding when they're looking at unemployment at a time when there are no jobs.
you talk about this creating jobs...hardly, a one day event?! the most it will create is overtime.
a 1/4 of £20m is quite a few service personell not facing redundancy.
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OK.....£5 million cost of putting Armed forces on the streets for the day...
It costs around £17 million a day to keep our armed forces in Afghanistan....EVERY day.
When you look at the bigger picture the cost to the taxpayer for this wedding is a drop in the ocean. |
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People come to the UK for history and culture, nobody meets the bloody Queen.
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I have met the queen on 3 seperate occassions.. once as a baby.. she said I was adorable, then realised my nappy was soaked. ( mum and dad had been waiting for hours to meet them )
Once at a concert at the royal albert hall.. schools prom type thing.. she came to shake all our hands as we had played solos..
Last time was during a big girl guide event...
I think that the royal family are a bit part of being British and am looking forward to the Royal Wedding.. Its better than some of the other rubbish money gets wasted on.. and if its anything like the last big royal wedding, the street parties will be a great event.
I think more should be done to support the Royal family.. and I see it as that is our Next King and Queen. At least both are pretty modern..
And yes I am a Royalist.. and still find it shocking that children are not taught the National Anthem at school... or more about the royal family.
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"OK.....£5 million cost of putting Armed forces on the streets for the day...
It costs around £17 million a day to keep our armed forces in Afghanistan....EVERY day.
When you look at the bigger picture the cost to the taxpayer for this wedding is a drop in the ocean."
seriously....you're comparing our presence afghanistan with the royal wedding??
if you want to do that...consider our recent announcement about going into libya too...surely the fact it costs so much gives more cause to not using their funds for something so frivolous?
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"OK.....£5 million cost of putting Armed forces on the streets for the day...
It costs around £17 million a day to keep our armed forces in Afghanistan....EVERY day.
When you look at the bigger picture the cost to the taxpayer for this wedding is a drop in the ocean.
seriously....you're comparing our presence afghanistan with the royal wedding??
if you want to do that...consider our recent announcement about going into libya too...surely the fact it costs so much gives more cause to not using their funds for something so frivolous?
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thatt be heard to provide the police
if there planing cuts
whoes going protect who
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I don't care how much money they do or do not bring in, my distase for monarchy is linked to my distaste for the ruling classes that govern us and who clearly cannot manage an economy.
I simply do not want a monarchy.
Is a boost to private business the only tangible reason for keeping a monarch on the throne?
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