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By *litterbabe OP Woman
over a year ago
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We all know holiday prices go right up when it's time for school holidays.
Many are saying something should be done about it.
I personally would love it if the prices were all the same year round.
The only issue is the prices I would imagine are based on supply and demand and as so many people want to go away in the summer and the hotels have a maximum capacity then that's why the prices go up. Out of summer holidays places need filling and less people go, and therefore the price is a cheaper and hotels are more competitive. Is it possible that there is some way that the prices could be similar all year round, and not rise during school holidays or is that just how supply and demand is, and and will always work and if we do you choose to take holidays during school holidays we pay more.
How to the people thinking the prices should remain constant year round feel this can be achievable? |
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You have to remember it is not a British problem, but a wider one.
Most of France have August off, so they are all booking their holidays then too, as are the Germans, the Italians, etc.
Best way would be to allow parents to take a couple of weeks a year in term-time, so long as their overall attendance-rate is good enough, and they promise to catch up on any work.
(And it's not an external exam year)
Which pretty much looks like the system we'll be going back to...
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Knock 2 weeks off the statutory holidays they have now and let each child have 2 weeks of the year off when they want. It would mean teachers working 2 weeks more but so what |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Knock 2 weeks off the statutory holidays they have now and let each child have 2 weeks of the year off when they want. It would mean teachers working 2 weeks more but so what"
I'd love to see you say that to Christine Blowers face |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I'm taking mine out of school next wk. Prices in the holidays are ridiculous. .. more than double in most cases "
taking mine out for 3 days next week too and the school is fine with it, but then he does have a 100% attendance. I think the problem lies with the councils making the rules and not leaving it up to individual schools/heads to decide |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"We all know holiday prices go right up when it's time for school holidays.
Many are saying something should be done about it.
I personally would love it if the prices were all the same year round.
The only issue is the prices I would imagine are based on supply and demand and as so many people want to go away in the summer and the hotels have a maximum capacity then that's why the prices go up. Out of summer holidays places need filling and less people go, and therefore the price is a cheaper and hotels are more competitive. Is it possible that there is some way that the prices could be similar all year round, and not rise during school holidays or is that just how supply and demand is, and and will always work and if we do you choose to take holidays during school holidays we pay more.
How to the people thinking the prices should remain constant year round feel this can be achievable?"
Summer is to travel agents what Christmas is to toy shops.
You can't blame them for the market but it's not fair that poorer families don't get time together on holiday. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Knock 2 weeks off the statutory holidays they have now and let each child have 2 weeks of the year off when they want. It would mean teachers working 2 weeks more but so what
I'd love to see you say that to Christine Blowers face "
I would but she's always on holiday  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"You have to remember it is not a British problem, but a wider one.
Most of France have August off, so they are all booking their holidays then too, as are the Germans, the Italians, etc.
Best way would be to allow parents to take a couple of weeks a year in term-time, so long as their overall attendance-rate is good enough, and they promise to catch up on any work.
(And it's not an external exam year)
Which pretty much looks like the system we'll be going back to...
Mr ddc"
Would it be acceptable for teachers to do this also ? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Knock 2 weeks off the statutory holidays they have now and let each child have 2 weeks of the year off when they want. It would mean teachers working 2 weeks more but so what"
Wouldn't the teachers be afforded the same luxury, after all they have to pay inflated prices as well. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Most of those that want to go away in the summer months (July/August) are those that want to holiday in the UK. However, like we know, the weather here is hit and miss. Last year I went to Weymouth in March and it was in the 20s.
Where I live the kids break up a week earlier than everyone else, so I book a break during that first week and the cost of going a week earlier is half!
But while people refuse to take their children out of school and holiday in the UK, then the prices will remain steep. Asthe holiday parks get bbooked up here, as for going abroad I'd rather pay the fine and go in May/June when it's warm than pay triple the price and it's what I'll be doing next year. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Knock 2 weeks off the statutory holidays they have now and let each child have 2 weeks of the year off when they want. It would mean teachers working 2 weeks more but so what
Wouldn't the teachers be afforded the same luxury, after all they have to pay inflated prices as well. "
fair point but no, they have plenty of holidays throughout the year and in the main can afford it |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Hotels airlines etc. base their prices on annual income that means the peek season has to pay for an empty building at other times of the year.
Parents must balance it over a lifetime, once your kids leave school you can have child free resorts at a fraction of the cost  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I'm taking mine out of school next wk. Prices in the holidays are ridiculous. .. more than double in most cases
taking mine out for 3 days next week too and the school is fine with it, but then he does have a 100% attendance. I think the problem lies with the councils making the rules and not leaving it up to individual schools/heads to decide"
I haven't told the school yet 
whhooppsss must ping off an email !! Mine have 100% too so it's not as if I let them have loads of time off. I also think seeing as the school closes for 10 half days a year for parents evenings they can hardly complain !! |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Knock 2 weeks off the statutory holidays they have now and let each child have 2 weeks of the year off when they want. It would mean teachers working 2 weeks more but so what
Wouldn't the teachers be afforded the same luxury, after all they have to pay inflated prices as well.
fair point but no, they have plenty of holidays throughout the year and in the main can afford it"
But so do the children have plenty of holiday time to go away in. Also I bet a lot of the parents are paid more than the teachers, it's not a highly paid job at all. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Knock 2 weeks off the statutory holidays they have now and let each child have 2 weeks of the year off when they want. It would mean teachers working 2 weeks more but so w
Wouldn't the teachers be afforded the same luxury, after all they have to pay inflated prices as well.
fair point but no, they have plenty of holidays throughout the year and in the main can afford it
But so do the children have plenty of holiday time to go away in. Also I bet a lot of the parents are paid more than the teachers, it's not a highly paid job at all. "
I think it's more the case that the holiday prices go down in term time to give childless adults a chance to have a break away from the breeders' screeching brats |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Knock 2 weeks off the statutory holidays they have now and let each child have 2 weeks of the year off when they want. It would mean teachers working 2 weeks more but so what
Wouldn't the teachers be afforded the same luxury, after all they have to pay inflated prices as well.
fair point but no, they have plenty of holidays throughout the year and in the main can afford it
But so do the children have plenty of holiday time to go away in. Also I bet a lot of the parents are paid more than the teachers, it's not a highly paid job at all. "
the children go away on their own do they? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Just scrap the summer holidays completely.
No need now seeing as the harvest is done with machines and the children aren't needed to help bring it in.
It's a left over legacy that has no place in modern life. |
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"Knock 2 weeks off the statutory holidays they have now and let each child have 2 weeks of the year off when they want. It would mean teachers working 2 weeks more but so w
Wouldn't the teachers be afforded the same luxury, after all they have to pay inflated prices as well.
fair point but no, they have plenty of holidays throughout the year and in the main can afford it
But so do the children have plenty of holiday time to go away in. Also I bet a lot of the parents are paid more than the teachers, it's not a highly paid job at all.
I think it's more the case that the holiday prices go down in term time to give childless adults a chance to have a break away from the breeders' screeching brats "
Couldnt agree more |
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By (user no longer on site)
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How to the people thinking the prices should remain constant year round feel this can be achievable?"
You can't. Its a free market.
No one forces a customer to buy a holiday. If it is not worth it, don't buy it.
There is strong competition amongst travel agencies. They are not charities. |
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By *arry247Couple
over a year ago
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"We all know holiday prices go right up when it's time for school holidays.
Many are saying something should be done about it.
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AS you say supply and demand, you could forget about holidays during term times and simply take single days at weekends like we used to do when we were kids.
Holidays are not essential.
Or you could simply take your children on holiday during the term and ensure they had good attendence during the rest of the year.
Nothing to stop you as the High Court has upheld today |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Knock 2 weeks off the statutory holidays they have now and let each child have 2 weeks of the year off when they want. It would mean teachers working 2 weeks more but so what
Wouldn't the teachers be afforded the same luxury, after all they have to pay inflated prices as well.
fair point but no, they have plenty of holidays throughout the year and in the main can afford it
But so do the children have plenty of holiday time to go away in. Also I bet a lot of the parents are paid more than the teachers, it's not a highly paid job at all.
the children go away on their own do they?"
I've no idea why you put that, the rest of my post adequately explained what I meant. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"teachers need there holidays u know as its such a hard job(only have 37 weeks term time)....ps kids should not have holidays abroad till they reach the age of 21 ...."
I am guessing that you are not a teacher |
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Been on the radio today about a guy winning a high court case about the school fining him for taking his child out.
He won because the school said it expected regular attendance and he argued that by taking a holiday in term time didn't mean his child didn't attend regularly |
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It's not just holiday companies that take advantage of school holiday dates.
When my team was in Europe you waited for the draw to be made and instantly the flight prices went through the roof so they were obviously watching the draw to and the same with the hotels in the town you were going to.
Same as hotels near wembley know the dates of events and inflate the prices.
We should all boycott holidays for one school summer holiday period and see what they do |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"It's not just holiday companies that take advantage of school holiday dates.
When my team was in Europe you waited for the draw to be made and instantly the flight prices went through the roof so they were obviously watching the draw to and the same with the hotels in the town you were going to.
Same as hotels near wembley know the dates of events and inflate the prices.
We should all boycott holidays for one school summer holiday period and see what they do"
They would go insolvent. And then you wouldn't be able to buy a holiday. |
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By *ax777Man
over a year ago
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"Hotels airlines etc. base their prices on annual income that means the peek season has to pay for an empty building at other times of the year.
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this is exactly the point and as the OP states it's simply down to supply and demand.
A couple of posters have mentioned travel agents as being responsible for pricing, they're not. It's the tour operators that set the prices after negotiating with airlines, hotels etc. Travel agents merely sell the holidays on behalf of the tour operator and are paid a commission on each holiday they sell, usually around 10%. ( I'm aware that the big boys like Thomson and Thos Cook act as both tour operator and travel agent)
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"Holiday prices do not go up during school holidays, they are discounted during term time.  glass half full/glass half empty "
If the term time prices were half what they are and then discounted from that during term time then fair enough.
It's a bit like dfs, double or triple the price of something and then offer a big discount |
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"It's not just holiday companies that take advantage of school holiday dates.
When my team was in Europe you waited for the draw to be made and instantly the flight prices went through the roof so they were obviously watching the draw to and the same with the hotels in the town you were going to.
Same as hotels near wembley know the dates of events and inflate the prices.
We should all boycott holidays for one school summer holiday period and see what they do
They would go insolvent. And then you wouldn't be able to buy a holiday."
Whys that then, didn't people go on holiday before package holidays were invented |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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For people complaining about kids on holiday, just go to adults only resorts?
As for those with kids, I'm not sure. I haven't taken ours away during term time yet, or wanted to risk it. One of mine probably wouldn't cope with a holiday until he's much older anyway.
I'm not gonna say be grateful to all of you who have children that can cope with holidays and being away somewhere new. But I am a bit jealous. Maybe one day.
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By *ax777Man
over a year ago
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"It's not just holiday companies that take advantage of school holiday dates.
When my team was in Europe you waited for the draw to be made and instantly the flight prices went through the roof so they were obviously watching the draw to and the same with the hotels in the town you were going to.
Same as hotels near wembley know the dates of events and inflate the prices.
We should all boycott holidays for one school summer holiday period and see what they do
They would go insolvent. And then you wouldn't be able to buy a holiday.
Whys that then, didn't people go on holiday before package holidays were invented"
In a word, no..at least not the sort of holidays we are talking about. Before package holidays, most Britons took holidays I the UK. That's why the British sea side resorts generally faded and died after the package holiday boom of the 60's.
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By *olgateMan
over a year ago
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"They should make people who work in the holiday industry wear a badge so when they go anywhere to eat etc when it's busy or at peak time they get charged double
Why?"
The politics of envy is why |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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They would go insolvent. And then you wouldn't be able to buy a holiday.
Whys that then, didn't people go on holiday before package holidays were invented"
A travel agent offers you a holiday. If you don't like the price, don't pay it.
You're suggesting they are evil b*stards.
Nope. They are commercial institutions.
If you can offer something similar for a better price, do so. You could make a fortune. On the other hand, seeing how close some major travel agents have come to closing, you might find the margins a little tighter than you think. |
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"They should make people who work in the holiday industry wear a badge so when they go anywhere to eat etc when it's busy or at peak time they get charged double
Why?
The politics of envy is why"
Hands up, You've caught me red handed.
I am so envious of those who work for holiday companies and related industries
If they lose there jobs through being greedy during school holiday times then so be it. |
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They would go insolvent. And then you wouldn't be able to buy a holiday.
Whys that then, didn't people go on holiday before package holidays were invented
A travel agent offers you a holiday. If you don't like the price, don't pay it.
You're suggesting they are evil b*stards.
Nope. They are commercial institutions.
If you can offer something similar for a better price, do so. You could make a fortune. On the other hand, seeing how close some major travel agents have come to closing, you might find the margins a little tighter than you think."
I don't use travel agents and would never buy a holiday through them. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"teachers need there holidays u know as its such a hard job(only have 37 weeks term time)....ps kids should not have holidays abroad till they reach the age of 21 ...."
Do you have any idea how much work a teacher does? It's not a 9 to 5 job like some people's. Why should teachers need to be forced to pay inflated prices and work even more than the 7am to 9pm most do now just so someone else can have a cheaper holiday. |
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By *ax777Man
over a year ago
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"They should make people who work in the holiday industry wear a badge so when they go anywhere to eat etc when it's busy or at peak time they get charged double
Why?
The politics of envy is why
Hands up, You've caught me red handed.
I am so envious of those who work for holiday companies and related industries
If they lose there jobs throughwers being greedy during school holiday times then so be it."
Have you not read any of the responses in this thread? It's got nothing to do with greed, it's about supply and demand. An hotel has a fixed operating cost and therefore a hotelier will charge a premium when he knows he can sell his rooms in order to offset the lack of income when he has rooms standing empty. Airlines work in exactly the same way
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By *ax777Man
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They would go insolvent. And then you wouldn't be able to buy a holiday.
Whys that then, didn't people go on holiday before package holidays were invented
A travel agent offers you a holiday. If you don't like the price, don't pay it.
You're suggesting they are evil b*stards.
Nope. They are commercial institutions.
If you can offer something similar for a better price, do so. You could make a fortune. On the other hand, seeing how close some major travel agents have come to closing, you might find the margins a little tighter than you think.
I don't use travel agents and would never buy a holiday through them."
Why? |
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They would go insolvent. And then you wouldn't be able to buy a holiday.
Whys that then, didn't people go on holiday before package holidays were invented
A travel agent offers you a holiday. If you don't like the price, don't pay it.
You're suggesting they are evil b*stards.
Nope. They are commercial institutions.
If you can offer something similar for a better price, do so. You could make a fortune. On the other hand, seeing how close some major travel agents have come to closing, you might find the margins a little tighter than you think.
I don't use travel agents and would never buy a holiday through them.
Why?"
Because pre packaged holidays to a hotel with hundreds of Brits isn't my thing, I like to go to off the beaten track to new places and can arrange that happily on my own far cheaper.
If people want the package holiday through a agent that's all good just not for me |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Just scrap the summer holidays completely.
No need now seeing as the harvest is done with machines and the children aren't needed to help bring it in.
It's a left over legacy that has no place in modern life."
Hush no, can't go changing things that have been in place for hundreds of years just because the world has changed. We'd have to renegotiate all those unionised contracts. |
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By *olgateMan
over a year ago
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They would go insolvent. And then you wouldn't be able to buy a holiday.
Whys that then, didn't people go on holiday before package holidays were invented
A travel agent offers you a holiday. If you don't like the price, don't pay it.
You're suggesting they are evil b*stards.
Nope. They are commercial institutions.
If you can offer something similar for a better price, do so. You could make a fortune. On the other hand, seeing how close some major travel agents have come to closing, you might find the margins a little tighter than you think.
I don't use travel agents and would never buy a holiday through them.
Why?
Because pre packaged holidays to a hotel with hundreds of Brits isn't my thing, I like to go to off the beaten track to new places and can arrange that happily on my own far cheaper.
If people want the package holiday through a agent that's all good just not for me"
how do you intend to get there if the airline goes bust?
Travel agents are only a small part of the whole picture. |
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By *ax777Man
over a year ago
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They would go insolvent. And then you wouldn't be able to buy a holiday.
Whys that then, didn't people go on holiday before package holidays were invented
A travel agent offers you a holiday. If you don't like the price, don't pay it.
You're suggesting they are evil b*stards.
Nope. They are commercial institutions.
If you can offer something similar for a better price, do so. You could make a fortune. On the other hand, seeing how close some major travel agents have come to closing, you might find the margins a little tighter than you think.
I don't use travel agents and would never buy a holiday through them.
Why?
Because pre packaged holidays to a hotel with hundreds of Brits isn't my thing, I like to go to off the beaten track to new places and can arrange that happily on my own far cheaper.
If people want the package holiday through a agent that's all good just not for me"
And you think that this is saving you from the costs of supply and demand? |
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They would go insolvent. And then you wouldn't be able to buy a holiday.
Whys that then, didn't people go on holiday before package holidays were invented
A travel agent offers you a holiday. If you don't like the price, don't pay it.
You're suggesting they are evil b*stards.
Nope. They are commercial institutions.
If you can offer something similar for a better price, do so. You could make a fortune. On the other hand, seeing how close some major travel agents have come to closing, you might find the margins a little tighter than you think.
I don't use travel agents and would never buy a holiday through them.
Why?
Because pre packaged holidays to a hotel with hundreds of Brits isn't my thing, I like to go to off the beaten track to new places and can arrange that happily on my own far cheaper.
If people want the package holiday through a agent that's all good just not for me
And you think that this is saving you from the costs of supply and demand?"
It's a dam sight cheaper than booking a package holiday through a travel agent so it suits me.
I can go to a nicer place for a longer holiday.
Like I said I don't care what people do for there holidays as it's each to there own and if travel agents are your thing then alls good |
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They would go insolvent. And then you wouldn't be able to buy a holiday.
Whys that then, didn't people go on holiday before package holidays were invented
A travel agent offers you a holiday. If you don't like the price, don't pay it.
You're suggesting they are evil b*stards.
Nope. They are commercial institutions.
If you can offer something similar for a better price, do so. You could make a fortune. On the other hand, seeing how close some major travel agents have come to closing, you might find the margins a little tighter than you think.
I don't use travel agents and would never buy a holiday through them.
Why?
Because pre packaged holidays to a hotel with hundreds of Brits isn't my thing, I like to go to off the beaten track to new places and can arrange that happily on my own far cheaper.
If people want the package holiday through a agent that's all good just not for mehow do you intend to get there if the airline goes bust?
Travel agents are only a small part of the whole picture. "
In all my years traveling by plane through work and holidays(a lot of flights per year) I've never had an airline go bust so I'll take that chance. |
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By *ax777Man
over a year ago
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They would go insolvent. And then you wouldn't be able to buy a holiday.
Whys that then, didn't people go on holiday before package holidays were invented
A travel agent offers you a holiday. If you don't like the price, don't pay it.
You're suggesting they are evil b*stards.
Nope. They are commercial institutions.
If you can offer something similar for a better price, do so. You could make a fortune. On the other hand, seeing how close some major travel agents have come to closing, you might find the margins a little tighter than you think.
I don't use travel agents and would never buy a holiday through them.
Why?
Because pre packaged holidays to a hotel with hundreds of Brits isn't my thing, I like to go to off the beaten track to new places and can arrange that happily on my own far cheaper.
If people want the package holiday through a agent that's all good just not for me
And you think that this is saving you from the costs of supply and demand?
It's a dam sight cheaper than booking a package holiday through a travel agent so it suits me.
I can go to a nicer place for a longer holiday.
Like I said I don't care what people do for there holidays as it's each to there own and if travel agents are your thing then alls good "
No, you were inferring travel agents were greedy. Yet you are obviously unaware that it's the hotels and airlines that set the prices....the same hotels and airlines that you use. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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They would go insolvent. And then you wouldn't be able to buy a holiday.
Whys that then, didn't people go on holiday before package holidays were invented
A travel agent offers you a holiday. If you don't like the price, don't pay it.
You're suggesting they are evil b*stards.
Nope. They are commercial institutions.
If you can offer something similar for a better price, do so. You could make a fortune. On the other hand, seeing how close some major travel agents have come to closing, you might find the margins a little tighter than you think.
I don't use travel agents and would never buy a holiday through them.
Why?
Because pre packaged holidays to a hotel with hundreds of Brits isn't my thing, I like to go to off the beaten track to new places and can arrange that happily on my own far cheaper.
If people want the package holiday through a agent that's all good just not for me
And you think that this is saving you from the costs of supply and demand?
It's a dam sight cheaper than booking a package holiday through a travel agent so it suits me.
I can go to a nicer place for a longer holiday.
Like I said I don't care what people do for there holidays as it's each to there own and if travel agents are your thing then alls good
No, you were inferring travel agents were greedy. Yet you are obviously unaware that it's the hotels and airlines that set the prices....the same hotels and airlines that you use. "
And let's just ignore the fact that travel and leisure is one of the least profitable industries there is with companies in it constantly going bankrupt... |
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They would go insolvent. And then you wouldn't be able to buy a holiday.
Whys that then, didn't people go on holiday before package holidays were invented
A travel agent offers you a holiday. If you don't like the price, don't pay it.
You're suggesting they are evil b*stards.
Nope. They are commercial institutions.
If you can offer something similar for a better price, do so. You could make a fortune. On the other hand, seeing how close some major travel agents have come to closing, you might find the margins a little tighter than you think.
I don't use travel agents and would never buy a holiday through them.
Why?
Because pre packaged holidays to a hotel with hundreds of Brits isn't my thing, I like to go to off the beaten track to new places and can arrange that happily on my own far cheaper.
If people want the package holiday through a agent that's all good just not for me
And you think that this is saving you from the costs of supply and demand?
It's a dam sight cheaper than booking a package holiday through a travel agent so it suits me.
I can go to a nicer place for a longer holiday.
Like I said I don't care what people do for there holidays as it's each to there own and if travel agents are your thing then alls good
No, you were inferring travel agents were greedy. Yet you are obviously unaware that it's the hotels and airlines that set the prices....the same hotels and airlines that you use. "
Is that the same hotel and airline that i can get cheaper by not using a travel agent ?
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By *ax777Man
over a year ago
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They would go insolvent. And then you wouldn't be able to buy a holiday.
Whys that then, didn't people go on holiday before package holidays were invented
A travel agent offers you a holiday. If you don't like the price, don't pay it.
You're suggesting they are evil b*stards.
Nope. They are commercial institutions.
If you can offer something similar for a better price, do so. You could make a fortune. On the other hand, seeing how close some major travel agents have come to closing, you might find the margins a little tighter than you think.
I don't use travel agents and would never buy a holiday through them.
Why?
Because pre packaged holidays to a hotel with hundreds of Brits isn't my thing, I like to go to off the beaten track to new places and can arrange that happily on my own far cheaper.
If people want the package holiday through a agent that's all good just not for me
And you think that this is saving you from the costs of supply and demand?
It's a dam sight cheaper than booking a package holiday through a travel agent so it suits me.
I can go to a nicer place for a longer holiday.
Like I said I don't care what people do for there holidays as it's each to there own and if travel agents are your thing then alls good
No, you were inferring travel agents were greedy. Yet you are obviously unaware that it's the hotels and airlines that set the prices....the same hotels and airlines that you use.
Is that the same hotel and airline that i can get cheaper by not using a travel agent ?
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They would go insolvent. And then you wouldn't be able to buy a holiday.
Whys that then, didn't people go on holiday before package holidays were invented
A travel agent offers you a holiday. If you don't like the price, don't pay it.
You're suggesting they are evil b*stards.
Nope. They are commercial institutions.
If you can offer something similar for a better price, do so. You could make a fortune. On the other hand, seeing how close some major travel agents have come to closing, you might find the margins a little tighter than you think.
I don't use travel agents and would never buy a holiday through them.
Why?
Because pre packaged holidays to a hotel with hundreds of Brits isn't my thing, I like to go to off the beaten track to new places and can arrange that happily on my own far cheaper.
If people want the package holiday through a agent that's all good just not for me
And you think that this is saving you from the costs of supply and demand?
It's a dam sight cheaper than booking a package holiday through a travel agent so it suits me.
I can go to a nicer place for a longer holiday.
Like I said I don't care what people do for there holidays as it's each to there own and if travel agents are your thing then alls good
No, you were inferring travel agents were greedy. Yet you are obviously unaware that it's the hotels and airlines that set the prices....the same hotels and airlines that you use.
And let's just ignore the fact that travel and leisure is one of the least profitable industries there is with companies in it constantly going bankrupt... "
Then it's a bad business model if companies are constantly going bankrupt.
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They would go insolvent. And then you wouldn't be able to buy a holiday.
Whys that then, didn't people go on holiday before package holidays were invented
A travel agent offers you a holiday. If you don't like the price, don't pay it.
You're suggesting they are evil b*stards.
Nope. They are commercial institutions.
If you can offer something similar for a better price, do so. You could make a fortune. On the other hand, seeing how close some major travel agents have come to closing, you might find the margins a little tighter than you think.
I don't use travel agents and would never buy a holiday through them.
Why?
Because pre packaged holidays to a hotel with hundreds of Brits isn't my thing, I like to go to off the beaten track to new places and can arrange that happily on my own far cheaper.
If people want the package holiday through a agent that's all good just not for me
And you think that this is saving you from the costs of supply and demand?
It's a dam sight cheaper than booking a package holiday through a travel agent so it suits me.
I can go to a nicer place for a longer holiday.
Like I said I don't care what people do for there holidays as it's each to there own and if travel agents are your thing then alls good
No, you were inferring travel agents were greedy. Yet you are obviously unaware that it's the hotels and airlines that set the prices....the same hotels and airlines that you use.
Is that the same hotel and airline that i can get cheaper by not using a travel agent ?
How would you know, you never use them!"
I don't but I get friends and colleagues say we're looking to go to x and have been quoted x can you see what you can find as they know i travel a lot and don't use travel agents.
If you've got kids and are happy to pay the increase during school holidays then that's your choice,
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By *ax777Man
over a year ago
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They would go insolvent. And then you wouldn't be able to buy a holiday.
Whys that then, didn't people go on holiday before package holidays were invented
A travel agent offers you a holiday. If you don't like the price, don't pay it.
You're suggesting they are evil b*stards.
Nope. They are commercial institutions.
If you can offer something similar for a better price, do so. You could make a fortune. On the other hand, seeing how close some major travel agents have come to closing, you might find the margins a little tighter than you think.
I don't use travel agents and would never buy a holiday through them.
Why?
Because pre packaged holidays to a hotel with hundreds of Brits isn't my thing, I like to go to off the beaten track to new places and can arrange that happily on my own far cheaper.
If people want the package holiday through a agent that's all good just not for me
And you think that this is saving you from the costs of supply and demand?
It's a dam sight cheaper than booking a package holiday through a travel agent so it suits me.
I can go to a nicer place for a longer holiday.
Like I said I don't care what people do for there holidays as it's each to there own and if travel agents are your thing then alls good
No, you were inferring travel agents were greedy. Yet you are obviously unaware that it's the hotels and airlines that set the prices....the same hotels and airlines that you use.
And let's just ignore the fact that travel and leisure is one of the least profitable industries there is with companies in it constantly going bankrupt...
Then it's a bad business model if companies are constantly going bankrupt.
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By *ax777Man
over a year ago
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They would go insolvent. And then you wouldn't be able to buy a holiday.
Whys that then, didn't people go on holiday before package holidays were invented
A travel agent offers you a holiday. If you don't like the price, don't pay it.
You're suggesting they are evil b*stards.
Nope. They are commercial institutions.
If you can offer something similar for a better price, do so. You could make a fortune. On the other hand, seeing how close some major travel agents have come to closing, you might find the margins a little tighter than you think.
I don't use travel agents and would never buy a holiday through them.
Why?
Because pre packaged holidays to a hotel with hundreds of Brits isn't my thing, I like to go to off the beaten track to new places and can arrange that happily on my own far cheaper.
If people want the package holiday through a agent that's all good just not for me
And you think that this is saving you from the costs of supply and demand?
It's a dam sight cheaper than booking a package holiday through a travel agent so it suits me.
I can go to a nicer place for a longer holiday.
Like I said I don't care what people do for there holidays as it's each to there own and if travel agents are your thing then alls good
No, you were inferring travel agents were greedy. Yet you are obviously unaware that it's the hotels and airlines that set the prices....the same hotels and airlines that you use.
Is that the same hotel and airline that i can get cheaper by not using a travel agent ?
How would you know, you never use them!
I don't but I get friends and colleagues say we're looking to go to x and have been quoted x can you see what you can find as they know i travel a lot and don't use travel agents.
If you've got kids and are happy to pay the increase during school holidays then that's your choice,
I don't and won't and that's my choice"
You may travel a lot but you obviously don't have a clue as to how the industry operates. As a matter of interest, what industry are you in? |
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"Hotels airlines etc. base their prices on annual income that means the peek season has to pay for an empty building at other times of the year.
Parents must balance it over a lifetime, once your kids leave school you can have child free resorts at a fraction of the cost "
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They would go insolvent. And then you wouldn't be able to buy a holiday.
Whys that then, didn't people go on holiday before package holidays were invented
A travel agent offers you a holiday. If you don't like the price, don't pay it.
You're suggesting they are evil b*stards.
Nope. They are commercial institutions.
If you can offer something similar for a better price, do so. You could make a fortune. On the other hand, seeing how close some major travel agents have come to closing, you might find the margins a little tighter than you think.
I don't use travel agents and would never buy a holiday through them.
Why?
Because pre packaged holidays to a hotel with hundreds of Brits isn't my thing, I like to go to off the beaten track to new places and can arrange that happily on my own far cheaper.
If people want the package holiday through a agent that's all good just not for me
And you think that this is saving you from the costs of supply and demand?
It's a dam sight cheaper than booking a package holiday through a travel agent so it suits me.
I can go to a nicer place for a longer holiday.
Like I said I don't care what people do for there holidays as it's each to there own and if travel agents are your thing then alls good
No, you were inferring travel agents were greedy. Yet you are obviously unaware that it's the hotels and airlines that set the prices....the same hotels and airlines that you use.
Is that the same hotel and airline that i can get cheaper by not using a travel agent ?
How would you know, you never use them!
I don't but I get friends and colleagues say we're looking to go to x and have been quoted x can you see what you can find as they know i travel a lot and don't use travel agents.
If you've got kids and are happy to pay the increase during school holidays then that's your choice,
I don't and won't and that's my choice
You may travel a lot but you obviously don't have a clue as to how the industry operates. As a matter of interest, what industry are you in?"
Not telling you what industry I'm in but I will tell you that be don't change our prices throughout the year due to supply and demand.
Last post as I'm off out to the pub but all I need to know is I can get my business flights and hotels and holiday flights and accommodation cheaper than through a travel agent and that's good enough for me. |
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over a year ago
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They would go insolvent. And then you wouldn't be able to buy a holiday.
Whys that then, didn't people go on holiday before package holidays were invented
A travel agent offers you a holiday. If you don't like the price, don't pay it.
You're suggesting they are evil b*stards.
Nope. They are commercial institutions.
If you can offer something similar for a better price, do so. You could make a fortune. On the other hand, seeing how close some major travel agents have come to closing, you might find the margins a little tighter than you think.
I don't use travel agents and would never buy a holiday through them.
Why?
Because pre packaged holidays to a hotel with hundreds of Brits isn't my thing, I like to go to off the beaten track to new places and can arrange that happily on my own far cheaper.
If people want the package holiday through a agent that's all good just not for me
And you think that this is saving you from the costs of supply and demand?
It's a dam sight cheaper than booking a package holiday through a travel agent so it suits me.
I can go to a nicer place for a longer holiday.
Like I said I don't care what people do for there holidays as it's each to there own and if travel agents are your thing then alls good
No, you were inferring travel agents were greedy. Yet you are obviously unaware that it's the hotels and airlines that set the prices....the same hotels and airlines that you use.
And let's just ignore the fact that travel and leisure is one of the least profitable industries there is with companies in it constantly going bankrupt...
Then it's a bad business model if companies are constantly going bankrupt.
It's an industry that works on fine margins. So are you saying that they should put their prices up? I thought you were complaining about their greed?"
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By *ax777Man
over a year ago
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They would go insolvent. And then you wouldn't be able to buy a holiday.
Whys that then, didn't people go on holiday before package holidays were invented
A travel agent offers you a holiday. If you don't like the price, don't pay it.
You're suggesting they are evil b*stards.
Nope. They are commercial institutions.
If you can offer something similar for a better price, do so. You could make a fortune. On the other hand, seeing how close some major travel agents have come to closing, you might find the margins a little tighter than you think.
I don't use travel agents and would never buy a holiday through them.
Why?
Because pre packaged holidays to a hotel with hundreds of Brits isn't my thing, I like to go to off the beaten track to new places and can arrange that happily on my own far cheaper.
If people want the package holiday through a agent that's all good just not for me
And you think that this is saving you from the costs of supply and demand?
It's a dam sight cheaper than booking a package holiday through a travel agent so it suits me.
I can go to a nicer place for a longer holiday.
Like I said I don't care what people do for there holidays as it's each to there own and if travel agents are your thing then alls good
No, you were inferring travel agents were greedy. Yet you are obviously unaware that it's the hotels and airlines that set the prices....the same hotels and airlines that you use.
Is that the same hotel and airline that i can get cheaper by not using a travel agent ?
How would you know, you never use them!
I don't but I get friends and colleagues say we're looking to go to x and have been quoted x can you see what you can find as they know i travel a lot and don't use travel agents.
If you've got kids and are happy to pay the increase during school holidays then that's your choice,
I don't and won't and that's my choice
You may travel a lot but you obviously don't have a clue as to how the industry operates. As a matter of interest, what industry are you in?
Not telling you what industry I'm in but I will tell you that be don't change our prices throughout the year due to supply and demand.
Last post as I'm off out to the pub but all I need to know is I can get my business flights and hotels and holiday flights and accommodation cheaper than through a travel agent and that's good enough for me."
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They would go insolvent. And then you wouldn't be able to buy a holiday.
Whys that then, didn't people go on holiday before package holidays were invented
A travel agent offers you a holiday. If you don't like the price, don't pay it.
You're suggesting they are evil b*stards.
Nope. They are commercial institutions.
If you can offer something similar for a better price, do so. You could make a fortune. On the other hand, seeing how close some major travel agents have come to closing, you might find the margins a little tighter than you think.
I don't use travel agents and would never buy a holiday through them.
Why?
Because pre packaged holidays to a hotel with hundreds of Brits isn't my thing, I like to go to off the beaten track to new places and can arrange that happily on my own far cheaper.
If people want the package holiday through a agent that's all good just not for me
And you think that this is saving you from the costs of supply and demand?
It's a dam sight cheaper than booking a package holiday through a travel agent so it suits me.
I can go to a nicer place for a longer holiday.
Like I said I don't care what people do for there holidays as it's each to there own and if travel agents are your thing then alls good
No, you were inferring travel agents were greedy. Yet you are obviously unaware that it's the hotels and airlines that set the prices....the same hotels and airlines that you use.
Is that the same hotel and airline that i can get cheaper by not using a travel agent ?
How would you know, you never use them!
I don't but I get friends and colleagues say we're looking to go to x and have been quoted x can you see what you can find as they know i travel a lot and don't use travel agents.
If you've got kids and are happy to pay the increase during school holidays then that's your choice,
I don't and won't and that's my choice
You may travel a lot but you obviously don't have a clue as to how the industry operates. As a matter of interest, what industry are you in?
Not telling you what industry I'm in but I will tell you that be don't change our prices throughout the year due to supply and demand.
Last post as I'm off out to the pub but all I need to know is I can get my business flights and hotels and holiday flights and accommodation cheaper than through a travel agent and that's good enough for me.
I'm sure you think you can."
Hands up and you are obviously right.
I bet I could have saved thousands of pounds on hundreds of flights if only I had thought to actually make sure that I was saving money and not paying over the odds.
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By *olgateMan
over a year ago
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You have no idea how the travel industry works. Saying airlines don't go bust, air Lanka, swissair, British Midland, Laker, TWA. I could go on. Travel companies often block book rooms in hotels for the season. If they don't sell those rooms they can often be picked up very cheaply. A lot cheaper than the hotels normal rack rate.
Hotel rooms and flight prices are fixed by complicated computer algorithms. The less popular flights and rooms being discounted the most. As an example today is one of the cheapest days of the year to fly with seats being discounted by up to 60%. Reason being, nobody wants to fly on Friday 13th |
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"Right I'm definitely off to the pub.
Wouldn't it be cheaper to buy your beer direct from the brewery? "
Well, that depends on many factors including price of said beer, delivery price and availability and volume and convenience. Oh, and taste of said beer.
Alternatively, I could look at beer agents. Hell, if I don't like the prices, I can research other options. |
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"Hotels airlines etc. base their prices on annual income that means the peek season has to pay for an empty building at other times of the year.
Parents must balance it over a lifetime, once your kids leave school you can have child free resorts at a fraction of the cost
No this is not the case, the price of adults only accommodation is also included during school holidays."
Yes you are right, BUT once the kids have grown up you can go outside school holidays, and save loads on the discounts available. that is why I am off to southern and eastern Europe for a month in a few weeks, aiming to get home in July before the prices go up. |
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"Hotels airlines etc. base their prices on annual income that means the peek season has to pay for an empty building at other times of the year.
Parents must balance it over a lifetime, once your kids leave school you can have child free resorts at a fraction of the cost
No this is not the case, the price of adults only accommodation is also included during school holidays.
Yes you are right, BUT once the kids have grown up you can go outside school holidays, and save loads on the discounts available. that is why I am off to southern and eastern Europe for a month in a few weeks, aiming to get home in July before the prices go up."
So you are saying that parenthood should be like a period of purgatory basically? |
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"Hotels airlines etc. base their prices on annual income that means the peek season has to pay for an empty building at other times of the year.
Parents must balance it over a lifetime, once your kids leave school you can have child free resorts at a fraction of the cost
No this is not the case, the price of adults only accommodation is also included during school holidays.
Yes you are right, BUT once the kids have grown up you can go outside school holidays, and save loads on the discounts available. that is why I am off to southern and eastern Europe for a month in a few weeks, aiming to get home in July before the prices go up.
So you are saying that parenthood should be like a period of purgatory basically? "
I am not sure anyone is suggesting parenthood should be purgatory. Of course, it might be. |
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"Hotels airlines etc. base their prices on annual income that means the peek season has to pay for an empty building at other times of the year.
Parents must balance it over a lifetime, once your kids leave school you can have child free resorts at a fraction of the cost
No this is not the case, the price of adults only accommodation is also included during school holidays.
Yes you are right, BUT once the kids have grown up you can go outside school holidays, and save loads on the discounts available. that is why I am off to southern and eastern Europe for a month in a few weeks, aiming to get home in July before the prices go up.
So you are saying that parenthood should be like a period of purgatory basically?
I am not sure anyone is suggesting parenthood should be purgatory. Of course, it might be."
So suffer the stupid prices while you have kids because it's all better when they grow up and you don't need family holidays anymore... that's what I heard? |
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"So suffer the stupid prices while you have kids because it's all better when they grow up and you don't need family holidays anymore... that's what I heard? "
You have options to pay full price or get discounts in many areas. having Christmas in January is a lot cheaper, holidays off peak are also a lot cheaper.
Unfortunately you have to be in a position to take advantage of these out of season discounts.
I took my children on holiday in peak times, had hoards of screaming kids running riot everywhere we went. I used to work 46 weeks a year often 15 hour days to raise my kids, now I work hard for 6 to 8 weeks a year and do what I want the rest of the year.
Getting older has benefits |
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"So suffer the stupid prices while you have kids because it's all better when they grow up and you don't need family holidays anymore... that's what I heard?
You have options to pay full price or get discounts in many areas. having Christmas in January is a lot cheaper, holidays off peak are also a lot cheaper.
Unfortunately you have to be in a position to take advantage of these out of season discounts.
I took my children on holiday in peak times, had hoards of screaming kids running riot everywhere we went. I used to work 46 weeks a year often 15 hour days to raise my kids, now I work hard for 6 to 8 weeks a year and do what I want the rest of the year.
Getting older has benefits "
I don't really understand the "running around screaming" thing being a problem. Isn't that what kids are supposed to so on a holiday? You could always take them to Rome and give them a cultural holiday but depending on their age they might get bored stiff. If you don't want them to get bored then surely you take them somewhere where they can roam and scream freely?
Or are you saying that you would take your kids to alton towers but insist that they enjoy it in an orderly fashion? |
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"I don't really understand the "running around screaming" thing being a problem. Isn't that what kids are supposed to so on a holiday? You could always take them to Rome and give them a cultural holiday but depending on their age they might get bored stiff. If you don't want them to get bored then surely you take them somewhere where they can roam and scream freely?
Or are you saying that you would take your kids to alton towers but insist that they enjoy it in an orderly fashion? "
Of course kids need to run wild, and as a parent I ran wild with mine at times, stepped back and let then run wild with other children at others.
But I don't miss trying to eat a meal with a herd of 200 children rampaging around. And I do enjoy being able to drink irresponsibly.
I enjoyed my kids, and never begrudged paying premium rates for premium time holidays. or the noise and mess they made, or the noise queues etc. that peak season means. But Damn it's good now I can go off peak, get d*unk when I want (unless I am riding of course) and have cheep adult only holiday times that I have earned. |
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"I don't really understand the "running around screaming" thing being a problem. Isn't that what kids are supposed to so on a holiday? You could always take them to Rome and give them a cultural holiday but depending on their age they might get bored stiff. If you don't want them to get bored then surely you take them somewhere where they can roam and scream freely?
Or are you saying that you would take your kids to alton towers but insist that they enjoy it in an orderly fashion?
Of course kids need to run wild, and as a parent I ran wild with mine at times, stepped back and let then run wild with other children at others.
But I don't miss trying to eat a meal with a herd of 200 children rampaging around. And I do enjoy being able to drink irresponsibly.
I enjoyed my kids, and never begrudged paying premium rates for premium time holidays. or the noise and mess they made, or the noise queues etc. that peak season means. But Damn it's good now I can go off peak, get d*unk when I want (unless I am riding of course) and have cheep adult only holiday times that I have earned. "
OK, you know that we are biologically programmed to find our own children less annoying than other people's? At least the sounds they make anyway.
It's ok to have double standards. I do! |
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LOL there are times through the teenage years in particular where that biological tolloerence gets very stretched... but even though I had to do it alone I don't think I would have missed a day of it, in fact I regret the days they had to stay with relatives so I could work. |
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"LOL there are times through the teenage years in particular where that biological tolloerence gets very stretched... but even though I had to do it alone I don't think I would have missed a day of it, in fact I regret the days they had to stay with relatives so I could work. "
The thing that annoys me is parents who assume everyone else is as patient and tolerant as them. An apologetic glance during a long plane ride goes a long way, they could even feign some embarrassment if they want to elicit sympathy rather than concealed rage. |
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By *ax777Man
over a year ago
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What people have to realise is that it has nothing to do with school holidays. July and August are the hottest months in the Med and that is why people want to holiday at that time. That is why holidays are at a premium. School holidays just happen to coincide.
If you want a cheap holiday, take your kids out of school in January and head for the Med. you will get great prices but not the weather, it's the weather you are paying for!
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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago
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"What people have to realise is that it has nothing to do with school holidays. July and August are the hottest months in the Med and that is why people want to holiday at that time. That is why holidays are at a premium. School holidays just happen to coincide.
If you want a cheap holiday, take your kids out of school in January and head for the Med. you will get great prices but not the weather, it's the weather you are paying for!
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What a sensible post.
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"What people have to realise is that it has nothing to do with school holidays. July and August are the hottest months in the Med and that is why people want to holiday at that time. That is why holidays are at a premium. School holidays just happen to coincide.
If you want a cheap holiday, take your kids out of school in January and head for the Med. you will get great prices but not the weather, it's the weather you are paying for!
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By *ax777Man
over a year ago
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They would go insolvent. And then you wouldn't be able to buy a holiday.
Whys that then, didn't people go on holiday before package holidays were invented
A travel agent offers you a holiday. If you don't like the price, don't pay it.
You're suggesting they are evil b*stards.
Nope. They are commercial institutions.
If you can offer something similar for a better price, do so. You could make a fortune. On the other hand, seeing how close some major travel agents have come to closing, you might find the margins a little tighter than you think.
I don't use travel agents and would never buy a holiday through them.
Why?
Because pre packaged holidays to a hotel with hundreds of Brits isn't my thing, I like to go to off the beaten track to new places and can arrange that happily on my own far cheaper.
If people want the package holiday through a agent that's all good just not for me
And you think that this is saving you from the costs of supply and demand?
It's a dam sight cheaper than booking a package holiday through a travel agent so it suits me.
I can go to a nicer place for a longer holiday.
Like I said I don't care what people do for there holidays as it's each to there own and if travel agents are your thing then alls good
No, you were inferring travel agents were greedy. Yet you are obviously unaware that it's the hotels and airlines that set the prices....the same hotels and airlines that you use.
Is that the same hotel and airline that i can get cheaper by not using a travel agent ?
How would you know, you never use them!
I don't but I get friends and colleagues say we're looking to go to x and have been quoted x can you see what you can find as they know i travel a lot and don't use travel agents.
If you've got kids and are happy to pay the increase during school holidays then that's your choice,
I don't and won't and that's my choice
You may travel a lot but you obviously don't have a clue as to how the industry operates. As a matter of interest, what industry are you in?
Not telling you what industry I'm in but I will tell you that be don't change our prices throughout the year due to supply and demand.
Last post as I'm off out to the pub but all I need to know is I can get my business flights and hotels and holiday flights and accommodation cheaper than through a travel agent and that's good enough for me.
I'm sure you think you can.
Hands up and you are obviously right.
I bet I could have saved thousands of pounds on hundreds of flights if only I had thought to actually make sure that I was saving money and not paying over the odds.
Dam"
If your employer allows you to book travel through an unmanaged programme,it will be costing them thousands and the travel manager,if there is one, deserves a hefty kick up the rear end.
Oh and btw, if your going to send me a private message, don't be an arse and block me so I'm unable to respond!
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What makes teaching a harder job than a other professions what about trades heavy lifting and hard graft we don't work 9 months for 30 grand plus. 4 weeks a year we get like most other hard working people. they know what the score with holiday pri es when they go into the profession.to much woe is me from teachers.what about us parents who work away and can't get time off during school holidays I don't whinge about it things we have to do if do t like it change job |
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They would go insolvent. And then you wouldn't be able to buy a holiday.
Whys that then, didn't people go on holiday before package holidays were invented
A travel agent offers you a holiday. If you don't like the price, don't pay it.
You're suggesting they are evil b*stards.
Nope. They are commercial institutions.
If you can offer something similar for a better price, do so. You could make a fortune. On the other hand, seeing how close some major travel agents have come to closing, you might find the margins a little tighter than you think.
I don't use travel agents and would never buy a holiday through them.
Why?
Because pre packaged holidays to a hotel with hundreds of Brits isn't my thing, I like to go to off the beaten track to new places and can arrange that happily on my own far cheaper.
If people want the package holiday through a agent that's all good just not for me
And you think that this is saving you from the costs of supply and demand?
It's a dam sight cheaper than booking a package holiday through a travel agent so it suits me.
I can go to a nicer place for a longer holiday.
Like I said I don't care what people do for there holidays as it's each to there own and if travel agents are your thing then alls good
No, you were inferring travel agents were greedy. Yet you are obviously unaware that it's the hotels and airlines that set the prices....the same hotels and airlines that you use.
Is that the same hotel and airline that i can get cheaper by not using a travel agent ?
How would you know, you never use them!
I don't but I get friends and colleagues say we're looking to go to x and have been quoted x can you see what you can find as they know i travel a lot and don't use travel agents.
If you've got kids and are happy to pay the increase during school holidays then that's your choice,
I don't and won't and that's my choice
You may travel a lot but you obviously don't have a clue as to how the industry operates. As a matter of interest, what industry are you in?
Not telling you what industry I'm in but I will tell you that be don't change our prices throughout the year due to supply and demand.
Last post as I'm off out to the pub but all I need to know is I can get my business flights and hotels and holiday flights and accommodation cheaper than through a travel agent and that's good enough for me.
I'm sure you think you can.
Hands up and you are obviously right.
I bet I could have saved thousands of pounds on hundreds of flights if only I had thought to actually make sure that I was saving money and not paying over the odds.
Dam
If your employer allows you to book travel through an unmanaged programme,it will be costing them thousands and the travel manager,if there is one, deserves a hefty kick up the rear end.
Oh and btw, if your going to send me a private message, don't be an arse and block me so I'm unable to respond!
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"What people have to realise is that it has nothing to do with school holidays. July and August are the hottest months in the Med and that is why people want to holiday at that time. That is why holidays are at a premium. School holidays just happen to coincide.
If you want a cheap holiday, take your kids out of school in January and head for the Med. you will get great prices but not the weather, it's the weather you are paying for!
What a sensible post.
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By *olgateMan
over a year ago
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Holiday companies, travel agents, bus companies, airlines and every other company connected to the travel, holiday and leisure trades are businesses out to make a profit. They are not charities deemed to dole out cut price fortnights in Benidorm for the worthy.
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"Holiday companies, travel agents, bus companies, airlines and every other company connected to the travel, holiday and leisure trades are businesses out to make a profit. They are not charities deemed to dole out cut price fortnights in Benidorm for the worthy.
Life's a bitch sometimes, you pays your money you makes your choice!"
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"Holiday companies, travel agents, bus companies, airlines and every other company connected to the travel, holiday and leisure trades are businesses out to make a profit. "
And they ain't too good at it either |
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By *ax777Man
over a year ago
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They would go insolvent. And then you wouldn't be able to buy a holiday.
Whys that then, didn't people go on holiday before package holidays were invented
A travel agent offers you a holiday. If you don't like the price, don't pay it.
You're suggesting they are evil b*stards.
Nope. They are commercial institutions.
If you can offer something similar for a better price, do so. You could make a fortune. On the other hand, seeing how close some major travel agents have come to closing, you might find the margins a little tighter than you think.
I don't use travel agents and would never buy a holiday through them.
Why?
Because pre packaged holidays to a hotel with hundreds of Brits isn't my thing, I like to go to off the beaten track to new places and can arrange that happily on my own far cheaper.
If people want the package holiday through a agent that's all good just not for me
And you think that this is saving you from the costs of supply and demand?
It's a dam sight cheaper than booking a package holiday through a travel agent so it suits me.
I can go to a nicer place for a longer holiday.
Like I said I don't care what people do for there holidays as it's each to there own and if travel agents are your thing then alls good
No, you were inferring travel agents were greedy. Yet you are obviously unaware that it's the hotels and airlines that set the prices....the same hotels and airlines that you use.
Is that the same hotel and airline that i can get cheaper by not using a travel agent ?
How would you know, you never use them!
I don't but I get friends and colleagues say we're looking to go to x and have been quoted x can you see what you can find as they know i travel a lot and don't use travel agents.
If you've got kids and are happy to pay the increase during school holidays then that's your choice,
I don't and won't and that's my choice
You may travel a lot but you obviously don't have a clue as to how the industry operates. As a matter of interest, what industry are you in?
Not telling you what industry I'm in but I will tell you that be don't change our prices throughout the year due to supply and demand.
Last post as I'm off out to the pub but all I need to know is I can get my business flights and hotels and holiday flights and accommodation cheaper than through a travel agent and that's good enough for me.
I'm sure you think you can.
Hands up and you are obviously right.
I bet I could have saved thousands of pounds on hundreds of flights if only I had thought to actually make sure that I was saving money and not paying over the odds.
Dam
If your employer allows you to book travel through an unmanaged programme,it will be costing them thousands and the travel manager,if there is one, deserves a hefty kick up the rear end.
Oh and btw, if your going to send me a private message, don't be an arse and block me so I'm unable to respond!
It wasn't a horrible message and I blocked because I don't wish to enter a private long conversation with you as I didn't realise you were so old so the kids and school holidays are irrelevant "
I was an older father so school holidays were relevant relatively recently. More to the point, I know what I'm talking about.. maybe it's because I'm so old! You might get there one day! |
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By *emmabTV/TS
over a year ago
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I think we are looking at this the wrong way. Scrap long summer holidays have a 4 term school year and allow each child a holiday quota as we get at work say 25 days a year. 2 weeks in the winter and 3 weeks in the summer. Teacher get the same quota and have supply teachers to cover the teachers holidays as there are plenty of teachers out that don't want the responsibility of full time teaching. The long summer holidays are a hang over of children having to help with haymaking and alike. This would also stop holiday company's profiteering because they know demand will increase during the holidays. Also it would help no end with child care that need to be arranged by working parents over the summer holidays. Mine had 9 weeks off over last summer. Ridiculous. |
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They would go insolvent. And then you wouldn't be able to buy a holiday.
Whys that then, didn't people go on holiday before package holidays were invented
A travel agent offers you a holiday. If you don't like the price, don't pay it.
You're suggesting they are evil b*stards.
Nope. They are commercial institutions.
If you can offer something similar for a better price, do so. You could make a fortune. On the other hand, seeing how close some major travel agents have come to closing, you might find the margins a little tighter than you think.
I don't use travel agents and would never buy a holiday through them.
Why?
Because pre packaged holidays to a hotel with hundreds of Brits isn't my thing, I like to go to off the beaten track to new places and can arrange that happily on my own far cheaper.
If people want the package holiday through a agent that's all good just not for me
And you think that this is saving you from the costs of supply and demand?
It's a dam sight cheaper than booking a package holiday through a travel agent so it suits me.
I can go to a nicer place for a longer holiday.
Like I said I don't care what people do for there holidays as it's each to there own and if travel agents are your thing then alls good
No, you were inferring travel agents were greedy. Yet you are obviously unaware that it's the hotels and airlines that set the prices....the same hotels and airlines that you use.
Is that the same hotel and airline that i can get cheaper by not using a travel agent ?
How would you know, you never use them!
I don't but I get friends and colleagues say we're looking to go to x and have been quoted x can you see what you can find as they know i travel a lot and don't use travel agents.
If you've got kids and are happy to pay the increase during school holidays then that's your choice,
I don't and won't and that's my choice
You may travel a lot but you obviously don't have a clue as to how the industry operates. As a matter of interest, what industry are you in?
Not telling you what industry I'm in but I will tell you that be don't change our prices throughout the year due to supply and demand.
Last post as I'm off out to the pub but all I need to know is I can get my business flights and hotels and holiday flights and accommodation cheaper than through a travel agent and that's good enough for me.
I'm sure you think you can.
Hands up and you are obviously right.
I bet I could have saved thousands of pounds on hundreds of flights if only I had thought to actually make sure that I was saving money and not paying over the odds.
Dam
If your employer allows you to book travel through an unmanaged programme,it will be costing them thousands and the travel manager,if there is one, deserves a hefty kick up the rear end.
Oh and btw, if your going to send me a private message, don't be an arse and block me so I'm unable to respond!
It wasn't a horrible message and I blocked because I don't wish to enter a private long conversation with you as I didn't realise you were so old so the kids and school holidays are irrelevant
I was an older father so school holidays were relevant relatively recently. More to the point, I know what I'm talking about.. maybe it's because I'm so old! You might get there one day!"
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"children and teachers should be doing community service during the school break
Whilst singing songs that glorify the motherland?
no .... with gaffa tape over their gobs"
You know that what you suggested is basically why we have such a long and stupid summer break anyway? |
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"children and teachers should be doing community service during the school break
Whilst singing songs that glorify the motherland?
no .... with gaffa tape over their gobs
You know that what you suggested is basically why we have such a long and stupid summer break anyway? "
being paid for harvesting isn't community service so no it's not why there's such a stupidly long summer break |
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"children and teachers should be doing community service during the school break
Whilst singing songs that glorify the motherland?
no .... with gaffa tape over their gobs
You know that what you suggested is basically why we have such a long and stupid summer break anyway?
being paid for harvesting isn't community service so no it's not why there's such a stupidly long summer break"
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By (user no longer on site)
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I am taking mine out for 10 days middle of July
They don't do much in school then anyway as all exams are done may-June time
I'm saving over £1000 easy
I don't care what the school say they can't stand at the airport and stop me
I did my holiday through on the beach as the same holiday pwas prices by a local agent and was £2000 more then what I'm now paying
It's ridiculous I priced up flights yesterday £76 return to Majorca middle of July
Yet go few weeks later and your paying over £200
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"children and teachers should be doing community service during the school break
Whilst singing songs that glorify the motherland?
no .... with gaffa tape over their gobs
You know that what you suggested is basically why we have such a long and stupid summer break anyway?
being paid for harvesting isn't community service so no it's not why there's such a stupidly long summer break
Oh so you want proper slave labour? "
no ... just child labour..... the motorway hard shoulders and dual carriageway verges aren't going to clean themselves of mcdonalds and kfc packaging now are they..... teachers already get paid for a full year so there's no problem them contributing to society by cleaning beaches and dog poo from parklands etc. |
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"children and teachers should be doing community service during the school break
Whilst singing songs that glorify the motherland?
no .... with gaffa tape over their gobs
You know that what you suggested is basically why we have such a long and stupid summer break anyway?
being paid for harvesting isn't community service so no it's not why there's such a stupidly long summer break
Oh so you want proper slave labour?
no ... just child labour..... the motorway hard shoulders and dual carriageway verges aren't going to clean themselves of mcdonalds and kfc packaging now are they..... teachers already get paid for a full year so there's no problem them contributing to society by cleaning beaches and dog poo from parklands etc."
Can I please be there when you say those exact words to Christine Blowers? |
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So let me get this right, we are suggesting that children can take two weeks out of term time to go on holiday.
So the teachers lesson planning goes right out of the window.
Little Johnny takes two weeks in June to go to Tenerife because it's cheaper then. The teacher has to plan separately for him on his return, they have to make sure he catches up on the weeks he's missed while making sure he doesn't fall behind n the current weeks lessons.
But on his return little Sharon is off to the Maldives because her parents are saving £750. So the teacher has to plan separately for her now.
So at the end off term instead of planning for one class the teacher has planned thirty different lessons to accommodate the children swanning off all over the world on cheap holidays.
Finally it's holiday time and the exhausted teacher goes to the travel agent but can't get any of the cheap holidays that her class has had and that he/she had worked hard to accommodate for so they have a long weekend in camber sands. |
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"children and teachers should be doing community service during the school break
Whilst singing songs that glorify the motherland?
no .... with gaffa tape over their gobs
You know that what you suggested is basically why we have such a long and stupid summer break anyway?
being paid for harvesting isn't community service so no it's not why there's such a stupidly long summer break
Oh so you want proper slave labour?
no ... just child labour..... the motorway hard shoulders and dual carriageway verges aren't going to clean themselves of mcdonalds and kfc packaging now are they..... teachers already get paid for a full year so there's no problem them contributing to society by cleaning beaches and dog poo from parklands etc.
Can I please be there when you say those exact words to Christine Blowers? "
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Hi I was looking to take my son away for 10days at the end of the summer hols and it worked out at £1800 for me and him.
The first week he goes back to school it drops to £1100 saving me £700. The school said they would fine my ex £90 if I took him out. Well £90 fine it is then.
It's wrong they can put the prices up like that it needs sorting out |
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"Hotels airlines etc. base their prices on annual income that means the peek season has to pay for an empty building at other times of the year.
Parents must balance it over a lifetime, once your kids leave school you can have child free resorts at a fraction of the cost "
That's what I did.
We couldn't afford foreign holidays every year so we alternated: one year UK the next abroad. We saved for our holidays knowing it would cost a small fortune but we never went out of term, and to be honest it never crossed my mind too.
Now my children are grown I can go on holiday when I like. |
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"Hi I was looking to take my son away for 10days at the end of the summer hols and it worked out at £1800 for me and him.
The first week he goes back to school it drops to £1100 saving me £700. The school said they would fine my ex £90 if I took him out. Well £90 fine it is then.
It's wrong they can put the prices up like that it needs sorting out "
Can you put a price on your child's education ? |
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"Can you put a price on your child's education ?"
Technically you can, and the Public Schools do.
But I doubt missing 5 days or so in a year makes the difference between a brain surgeon/rocket scientist and a dustman...
We did the same, two years uk camping, followed by an expensive foreign holiday every third year. The latter always in term-time.
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While I think that children should attend school and parents pay the cost to holiday in the correct weeks, I do have to confess to taking zoo days when my children were in junior / primary school. that consisted of phoning in sick for all 3 of us so we could go to the zoo or something similar. especially if we had wet weekends and a sunny day in the week. Or they had been with the inlaws while I was away working for a couple of weeks.
Not loads, maybe 1 or 2 a year, and they stopped once they were in senior school. |
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"Hi I was looking to take my son away for 10days at the end of the summer hols and it worked out at £1800 for me and him.
The first week he goes back to school it drops to £1100 saving me £700. The school said they would fine my ex £90 if I took him out. Well £90 fine it is then.
It's wrong they can put the prices up like that it needs sorting out
Can you put a price on your child's education ?"
Can you put a price on a child's experience at Disneyland?
Obviously we know the ticket price, but if we say that they can only go in 13/52 weeks in the year then the laws of supply and demand mean that working class parents will be priced out of the market in those 13 weeks (i.e their kids don't get a trip to Disneyland).
On the other hand it would be a good lesson in economics to explain to them why they can't go. The disappointment will help the message sink in deeper. |
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Just curious why people don't think the term time price is the correct price and the rest of the year is run at a loss or break even in order to be able to make a profit from the short school holiday season ? |
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"Just curious why people don't think the term time price is the correct price and the rest of the year is run at a loss or break even in order to be able to make a profit from the short school holiday season ? "
It's more fun to believe in conspiracy theories and big greedy profiteering companies. The reality isn't as interesting. |
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By *olgateMan
over a year ago
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"Just curious why people don't think the term time price is the correct price and the rest of the year is run at a loss or break even in order to be able to make a profit from the short school holiday season ? "
because people are selfish, greedy and don't understand economics. There is no God given right to a cheap fortnight in Alicante for anyone
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"Just curious why people don't think the term time price is the correct price and the rest of the year is run at a loss or break even in order to be able to make a profit from the short school holiday season ? because people are selfish, greedy and don't understand economics. There is no God given right to a cheap fortnight in Alicante for anyone "
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"So let me get this right, we are suggesting that children can take two weeks out of term time to go on holiday.
So the teachers lesson planning goes right out of the window.
Little Johnny takes two weeks in June to go to Tenerife because it's cheaper then. The teacher has to plan separately for him on his return, they have to make sure he catches up on the weeks he's missed while making sure he doesn't fall behind n the current weeks lessons.
But on his return little Sharon is off to the Maldives because her parents are saving £750. So the teacher has to plan separately for her now.
So at the end off term instead of planning for one class the teacher has planned thirty different lessons to accommodate the children swanning off all over the world on cheap holidays.
Finally it's holiday time and the exhausted teacher goes to the travel agent but can't get any of the cheap holidays that her class has had and that he/she had worked hard to accommodate for so they have a long weekend in camber sands. "
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"children and teachers should be doing community service during the school break
Whilst singing songs that glorify the motherland?
no .... with gaffa tape over their gobs
You know that what you suggested is basically why we have such a long and stupid summer break anyway?
being paid for harvesting isn't community service so no it's not why there's such a stupidly long summer break
Oh so you want proper slave labour?
no ... just child labour..... the motorway hard shoulders and dual carriageway verges aren't going to clean themselves of mcdonalds and kfc packaging now are they..... teachers already get paid for a full year so there's no problem them contributing to society by cleaning beaches and dog poo from parklands etc.
Can I please be there when you say those exact words to Christine Blowers?
only a complete fucking idiot would take what i'm saying seriously "
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