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over a year ago
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Would you like to live to a thousand years old if you could??
Here's an interesting read I thought.
What's your thoughts about this perceived possibility?
A growing number of scientists, doctors, geneticists and nanotech experts—many with impeccable academic credentials—are insisting that there is no hard reason why ageing can’t be dramatically slowed or prevented altogether. Not only is it theoretically possible, they argue, but a scientifically achievable goal that can and should be reached in time to benefit those alive today.
I am working on immortality,” says Michael Rose, a professor of evolutionary biology at the University of California, Irvine, who has achieved breakthrough results extending the lives of fruit flies. “Twenty years ago the idea of postponing aging, let alone reversing it, was weird and off-the-wall. Today there are good reasons for thinking it is fundamentally possible.”
Even the US government finds the field sufficiently promising to fund some of the research. Federal funding for “the biology of ageing”, excluding work on ageing-specific diseases like heart failure and cancer – has been running at about $2.4 billion a year, according to the National Institute of Ageing, part of the National Institutes of Health.
But not everyone thinks ageing can or should be cured. Some say that humans weren’t meant to live forever, regardless of whether or not we actually can.
“I just don't think [immortality] is possible,” says Sherwin Nuland, a professor of surgery at the Yale School of Medicine. “Aubrey and the others who talk of greatly extending lifespan are oversimplifying the science and just don't understand the magnitude of the task. His plan will not succeed. Were it to do so, it would undermine what it means to be human.”
It’s interesting that Nuland first says he doesn’t think it will work but then adds that if it does, it will undermine humanity. So, which is it? Is it impossible, or are the skeptics just hoping it is?
After all, we already have overpopulation, global warming, limited resources and other issues to deal with, so why compound the problem by adding immortality into the mix. |
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I can't say whether or not it is possible because I am not a scientist. I imagine that, given enough time, humans will be able to extend their lives for very long periods of time, though.
Having said that, I do believe humans will have to decide what is more important to them - "immortality" of the self or "immortality" via progeny. We are already destroying the livable planet through over-population, if we add 1,000 year life spans to that then its only a matter of time before we truly destroy ourselves.
Personally I would rather just live a normal life and die when its my time. I don't want to work for 900 years and then find out my savings aren't enough to support me for the final 100.  |
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"I can't say whether or not it is possible because I am not a scientist. I imagine that, given enough time, humans will be able to extend their lives for very long periods of time, though.
Having said that, I do believe humans will have to decide what is more important to them - "immortality" of the self or "immortality" via progeny. We are already destroying the livable planet through over-population, if we add 1,000 year life spans to that then its only a matter of time before we truly destroy ourselves.
Personally I would rather just live a normal life and die when its my time. I don't want to work for 900 years and then find out my savings aren't enough to support me for the final 100. "
What are these things called "savings" you mentioned? Lol |
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"For some rich people, maybe
If you had the opportunity would you take it ?
And do what?
Spend the first century getting to the bottom of my favourite subject and watch everyone I know die...?"
exactly Joe  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Oh God 1 life time is enough here. Why on earth would you want to live this 100 times over?! I'm happy to be here, but I'll be happy to leave as well! Happy soul me. |
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I heard a programme on radio 4 about this. The thorey is possible but it's not going to happen anytime soon. As for overcrowding, child birth would be put off until your late 500's so on both counts there is no need to panic lol. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"For some rich people, maybe
If you had the opportunity would you take it ?
And do what?
Spend the first century getting to the bottom of my favourite subject and watch everyone I know die...?
exactly Joe "
watched a film called The Age of Adeline the other day on just this kind of subject, makes you think |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"For some rich people, maybe
If you had the opportunity would you take it ?
And do what?
Spend the first century getting to the bottom of my favourite subject and watch everyone I know die...?
exactly Joe
watched a film called The Age of Adeline the other day on just this kind of subject, makes you think"
Yes saw that in listings. Was it worth watching then ? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"For some rich people, maybe
If you had the opportunity would you take it ?
And do what?
Spend the first century getting to the bottom of my favourite subject and watch everyone I know die...?
exactly Joe
watched a film called The Age of Adeline the other day on just this kind of subject, makes you think
Yes saw that in listings. Was it worth watching then ?"
yes very good |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"For some rich people, maybe
If you had the opportunity would you take it ?
And do what?
Spend the first century getting to the bottom of my favourite subject and watch everyone I know die...?
exactly Joe
watched a film called The Age of Adeline the other day on just this kind of subject, makes you think
Yes saw that in listings. Was it worth watching then ?
yes very good "
and she is gorgeous!  |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"For some rich people, maybe
If you had the opportunity would you take it ?
And do what?
Spend the first century getting to the bottom of my favourite subject and watch everyone I know die...?
exactly Joe
watched a film called The Age of Adeline the other day on just this kind of subject, makes you think
Yes saw that in listings. Was it worth watching then ?
yes very good
and she is gorgeous! "
Cool I watch it on catch up . Cheers |
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What a waste of friggin time!.
The earth hasn't got 50 years left for sustaining us but nooo let's not cure that, let's spend resources on making us last for a thousand years!!...  |
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"What a waste of friggin time!.
The earth hasn't got 50 years left for sustaining us but nooo let's not cure that, let's spend resources on making us last for a thousand years!!... "
Pmsl but Noooo ha ha |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Didn't Methuselah almost live that long? It must be true, it's in the Bible. "
Most of Noah's kids lived over a thousand years. He of course never died. |
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"Imagine a thousand years of knowledge gained personally ?
Awesome "
That was my first thought - one could study arts and sciences, become master of them all and could potentially benefit mankind in many ways. You could learn all the languages of the world and possibly discover cures that are known only to people who have lived in solitude - the possibilities are mind-blowing. |
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By *artytwoCouple
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It would be fantastic living for a 1000 years but not if you spent most of it looking like a mummified monkey. If you could look 30-40 it would be ok.
And not sneaking around at night drinking blood or howling at the moon would be useful. |
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It won't happen. Even though life expectancy is getting longer, the reality is more people ae libing in to their 60s and 70s rather than noticably more people living in to their 90s.
Science and medicine hasn't reached a point where people (with very few exceptions) live to be a 100 let alone a 1000 |
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"It won't happen. Even though life expectancy is getting longer, the reality is more people ae libing in to their 60s and 70s rather than noticably more people living in to their 90s.
Science and medicine hasn't reached a point where people (with very few exceptions) live to be a 100 let alone a 1000 "
You say it won't happen but some scientists believe it will be possible. Are you a scientist who has done years of research into this subject then to say it won't happen? |
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"It won't happen. Even though life expectancy is getting longer, the reality is more people ae libing in to their 60s and 70s rather than noticably more people living in to their 90s.
Science and medicine hasn't reached a point where people (with very few exceptions) live to be a 100 let alone a 1000
You say it won't happen but some scientists believe it will be possible. Are you a scientist who has done years of research into this subject then to say it won't happen? "
No I'm not a scientist, I didnlt realise I had to be to comment on the thread?
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"I can't say whether or not it is possible because I am not a scientist. I imagine that, given enough time, humans will be able to extend their lives for very long periods of time, though.
Having said that, I do believe humans will have to decide what is more important to them - "immortality" of the self or "immortality" via progeny. We are already destroying the livable planet through over-population, if we add 1,000 year life spans to that then its only a matter of time before we truly destroy ourselves.
Personally I would rather just live a normal life and die when its my time. I don't want to work for 900 years and then find out my savings aren't enough to support me for the final 100. "
But birthrates are lowest where life span is highest
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"Even the US government finds the field sufficiently promising to fund some of the research. Federal funding for “the biology of ageing”, excluding work on ageing-specific diseases like heart failure and cancer – has been running at about $2.4 billion a year, according to the National Institute of Ageing, part of the National Institutes of Health.."
And this is nothing to do with immortality, Anerica has a huge industry in anti-aging medication. People wanting to stay younger is not the same as wanting to live for a 1000 years |
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"Even the US government finds the field sufficiently promising to fund some of the research. Federal funding for “the biology of ageing”, excluding work on ageing-specific diseases like heart failure and cancer – has been running at about $2.4 billion a year, according to the National Institute of Ageing, part of the National Institutes of Health..
And this is nothing to do with immortality, Anerica has a huge industry in anti-aging medication. People wanting to stay younger is not the same as wanting to live for a 1000 years"
I dont think the government funds anti wrinke cream research :p |
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"Even the US government finds the field sufficiently promising to fund some of the research. Federal funding for “the biology of ageing”, excluding work on ageing-specific diseases like heart failure and cancer – has been running at about $2.4 billion a year, according to the National Institute of Ageing, part of the National Institutes of Health..
And this is nothing to do with immortality, Anerica has a huge industry in anti-aging medication. People wanting to stay younger is not the same as wanting to live for a 1000 years
I dont think the government funds anti wrinke cream research :p"
I think you know as well as I do that the pharmaceutical industry is a little more advanced than that |
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IT is likely the first person who will live to be 1,000 years old is already alive today.
This is according to a growing regiment of researchers who believe a biological revolution enabling humans to experience everlasting youthfulness is just around the corner.
At the epicentre of the research is Aubrey de Grey — a Cambridge gerontologist and co-founder or the California-based Strategies for Engineered Negligible Senescence(SENS) Research Foundation.
“The first thing I want to do is get rid of the use of this word immortality, because it’s enormously damaging, it is not just wrong, it is damaging,” he told Motherboard.
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“It means zero risk of death from any cause — whereas I just work on one particular cause of death, namely ageing.”
Mr de Grey said his research aims to undo the damage done by the wear and tear of life, as opposed to stopping the ageing process altogether.
“If we ask the question: ‘Has the person been born who will be able to escape the ill health of old age indefinitely?’ Then I would say the chances of that are very high,” he said.
“Probably about 80 per cent.”
Aubrey de Grey
To achieve longevity, de Grey is developing a therapy to kill cells that have lost the ability to divide, allowing healthy cells to multiply and replenish the tissue.
“The therapies that we are working on at the moment are not going to be perfect,” he said.
“These therapies are going to be good enough to take middle age people, say people aged 60, and rejuvenate them thoroughly enough so they won’t be biologically 60 again until they are chronologically 90.
“That means we have essentially bought 30 years of time to figure out how to re-rejuvenate them when they are chronologically 90 so they won’t be biologically 60 for a third time until they are 120 or 150.
“I believe that 30 years is going to be very easily enough time to do that.”
Mr de Grey explained his technique for achieving eternal youthfulness is far more likely to be developed before the theories explored by other gerontologist that focus on preventing the metabolism from causing damage to the body.
“We will be able to keep one step ahead of the problem and keep rejuvenating the same people as long as we like,” he said
“The big breakthrough in terms of publicity will be when we can take middle aged mice in the laboratory and rejuvenate them.
“Once we can do it for mice, people are going to know that it’s only a matter of time before we can do it for human beings.
“So that’s where I want to get to and I think we have a fair chance of getting there in six to eight years from now.”
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I have wondered for a while, with every new successful transplant of a different body-part, whether we have reached a point where they could pick a person and simply replace each part as it failed, and see how long they could keep them alive.
Of course, after a while, they'd be like Trigger's broom...
Mr ddc |
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"I have wondered for a while, with every new successful transplant of a different body-part, whether we have reached a point where they could pick a person and simply replace each part as it failed, and see how long they could keep them alive.
Of course, after a while, they'd be like Trigger's broom...
Mr ddc"
It's an interesting topic isn't it ? And no body can say for sure whether they will be able to do it or not?
But I'm sure some know it alls in here who know more than the researchers and scientists will post that it's impossible? lol |
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"IT is likely the first person who will live to be 1,000 years old is already alive today.
This is according to a growing regiment of researchers who believe a biological revolution enabling humans to experience everlasting youthfulness is just around the corner.
At the epicentre of the research is Aubrey de Grey — a Cambridge gerontologist and co-founder or the California-based Strategies for Engineered Negligible Senescence(SENS) Research Foundation.
“The first thing I want to do is get rid of the use of this word immortality, because it’s enormously damaging, it is not just wrong, it is damaging,” he told Motherboard.
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“It means zero risk of death from any cause — whereas I just work on one particular cause of death, namely ageing.”
Mr de Grey said his research aims to undo the damage done by the wear and tear of life, as opposed to stopping the ageing process altogether.
“If we ask the question: ‘Has the person been born who will be able to escape the ill health of old age indefinitely?’ Then I would say the chances of that are very high,” he said.
“Probably about 80 per cent.”
Aubrey de Grey
To achieve longevity, de Grey is developing a therapy to kill cells that have lost the ability to divide, allowing healthy cells to multiply and replenish the tissue.
“The therapies that we are working on at the moment are not going to be perfect,” he said.
“These therapies are going to be good enough to take middle age people, say people aged 60, and rejuvenate them thoroughly enough so they won’t be biologically 60 again until they are chronologically 90.
“That means we have essentially bought 30 years of time to figure out how to re-rejuvenate them when they are chronologically 90 so they won’t be biologically 60 for a third time until they are 120 or 150.
“I believe that 30 years is going to be very easily enough time to do that.”
Mr de Grey explained his technique for achieving eternal youthfulness is far more likely to be developed before the theories explored by other gerontologist that focus on preventing the metabolism from causing damage to the body.
“We will be able to keep one step ahead of the problem and keep rejuvenating the same people as long as we like,” he said
“The big breakthrough in terms of publicity will be when we can take middle aged mice in the laboratory and rejuvenate them.
“Once we can do it for mice, people are going to know that it’s only a matter of time before we can do it for human beings.
“So that’s where I want to get to and I think we have a fair chance of getting there in six to eight years from now.”
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Are you just cut and pasting articles? What's your opinion on what makes these theories valid? |
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"I have wondered for a while, with every new successful transplant of a different body-part, whether we have reached a point where they could pick a person and simply replace each part as it failed, and see how long they could keep them alive.
Of course, after a while, they'd be like Trigger's broom...
Mr ddc
It's an interesting topic isn't it ? And no body can say for sure whether they will be able to do it or not?
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There was a time when I thought Michael Jackson would be the first to try it for real. I hadn't reckoned on his brain being the first organ to go a bit doo-lally
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"I have wondered for a while, with every new successful transplant of a different body-part, whether we have reached a point where they could pick a person and simply replace each part as it failed, and see how long they could keep them alive.
Of course, after a while, they'd be like Trigger's broom...
Mr ddc
It's an interesting topic isn't it ? And no body can say for sure whether they will be able to do it or not?
There was a time when I thought Michael Jackson would be the first to try it for real. I hadn't reckoned on his brain being the first organ to go a bit doo-lally
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Yes he used to sleep in oxygen tents apparently among other things to keep ageing at bay |
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Thinking logically, in order to achieve this, someone would have to work on avoidance of dementia as there would be little point in extending life artificially if the brain wasn't functioning.
After that, assuming that all other functioning organs can be transplanted where necessary, the rest should be simple.
The final thing to consider is that the older a human system becomes, the slower the metabolism. Therefore disease such as cancer will kill eventually but in a slower way than with us youngsters.
Petsonally, I would rather be a flame that shines brightly for a short time than a low light. |
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