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Is this a sexist event? basically all females may enter, males under 12 may enter and female to male trans gender people may enter (as long as they bring their birth certificate to prove).
Males over 12 and transgender male to female may not.
The whole thing is organised on behalf of cancer research UK.
Why are men completely alienated? They can be just as affected by cancer as anyone else.
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I can see your point op, but in this case I don't think it's so much as a sexist stand point by the organisation, more an attempt to stop elite runners from taking over the event, and causing a registration nightmare like the London marathon, that's what I think anyway |
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"I can see your point op, but in this case I don't think it's so much as a sexist stand point by the organisation, more an attempt to stop elite runners from taking over the event, and causing a registration nightmare like the London marathon, that's what I think anyway"
I see what your saying, but they are only discouraging male elitist runners, not female elites |
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From their website:
We regularly review our events to make them the best they can be and four years ago we seriously looked at whether we should let men enter Race for Life. However, our research showed that Race for Life’s success is due to its appeal to women as a women-only event and to allow men to enter could bring in less income for the charity’s life saving work.
No I don't think it's sexist at all
If men want to have a run about to raise money feel free.
We cannot risk this vital source of income to cancer research. We hope you understand that this decision has been made in the best interests of the cause. |
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"From their website:
We regularly review our events to make them the best they can be and four years ago we seriously looked at whether we should let men enter Race for Life. However, our research showed that Race for Life’s success is due to its appeal to women as a women-only event and to allow men to enter could bring in less income for the charity’s life saving work.
No I don't think it's sexist at all
If men want to have a run about to raise money feel free.
We cannot risk this vital source of income to cancer research. We hope you understand that this decision has been made in the best interests of the cause."
Oops the bit in the middle are my own words.
A c&p error. |
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"From their website:
We regularly review our events to make them the best they can be and four years ago we seriously looked at whether we should let men enter Race for Life. However, our research showed that Race for Life’s success is due to its appeal to women as a women-only event and to allow men to enter could bring in less income for the charity’s life saving work.
No I don't think it's sexist at all
If men want to have a run about to raise money feel free.
We cannot risk this vital source of income to cancer research. We hope you understand that this decision has been made in the best interests of the cause."
Any ideas as why this would be? |
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We regularly review our events to make them the best they can be and four years ago we seriously looked at whether we should let men enter Race for Life. However, our research showed that Race for Life’s success is due to its appeal to women as a women-only event and to allow men to enter could bring in less income for the charity’s life saving work.
We cannot risk this vital source of income to cancer research. We hope you understand that this decision has been made in the best interests of the cause. |
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"From their website:
We regularly review our events to make them the best they can be and four years ago we seriously looked at whether we should let men enter Race for Life. However, our research showed that Race for Life’s success is due to its appeal to women as a women-only event and to allow men to enter could bring in less income for the charity’s life saving work.
No I don't think it's sexist at all
If men want to have a run about to raise money feel free.
We cannot risk this vital source of income to cancer research. We hope you understand that this decision has been made in the best interests of the cause.
Any ideas as why this would be?"
They say the event brings out a strong sense of sisterhood. |
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"From their website:
We regularly review our events to make them the best they can be and four years ago we seriously looked at whether we should let men enter Race for Life. However, our research showed that Race for Life’s success is due to its appeal to women as a women-only event and to allow men to enter could bring in less income for the charity’s life saving work.
No I don't think it's sexist at all
If men want to have a run about to raise money feel free.
We cannot risk this vital source of income to cancer research. We hope you understand that this decision has been made in the best interests of the cause.
Any ideas as why this would be?
They say the event brings out a strong sense of sisterhood. "
Yes, I read their explanation but I am not convinced at all. We wanted to enter as a family to do our bit for cancer research, but to be honest have been put off altogether. |
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"From their website:
We regularly review our events to make them the best they can be and four years ago we seriously looked at whether we should let men enter Race for Life. However, our research showed that Race for Life’s success is due to its appeal to women as a women-only event and to allow men to enter could bring in less income for the charity’s life saving work.
No I don't think it's sexist at all
If men want to have a run about to raise money feel free.
We cannot risk this vital source of income to cancer research. We hope you understand that this decision has been made in the best interests of the cause.
Any ideas as why this would be?
They say the event brings out a strong sense of sisterhood.
Yes, I read their explanation but I am not convinced at all. We wanted to enter as a family to do our bit for cancer research, but to be honest have been put off altogether. "
Maybe your wife and children can do the race and you can volunteer to give out drinks or something similar. |
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"I know a few woman who have taken part in this event and it raises loads of money.
I don't think not having men in it detracts from the cause at all. "
You are right about the cause, but it is sexist in my opinion. |
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"From their website:
We regularly review our events to make them the best they can be and four years ago we seriously looked at whether we should let men enter Race for Life. However, our research showed that Race for Life’s success is due to its appeal to women as a women-only event and to allow men to enter could bring in less income for the charity’s life saving work.
No I don't think it's sexist at all
If men want to have a run about to raise money feel free.
We cannot risk this vital source of income to cancer research. We hope you understand that this decision has been made in the best interests of the cause.
Any ideas as why this would be?
They say the event brings out a strong sense of sisterhood.
Yes, I read their explanation but I am not convinced at all. We wanted to enter as a family to do our bit for cancer research, but to be honest have been put off altogether.
Maybe your wife and children can do the race and you can volunteer to give out drinks or something similar. "
I am the wife.....lol
maybe that is a solution yes, but sounds a bit sexist aswell......are you suggesting he goes on kitchen duty...lol! |
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So, if what I read is true (from the posts above), CR are saying that including men would reduce / impact in the money raised?
So, how is this remark not gender biased and sexist?
If an organisation said this about including women in an event, whomever wrote it would be sacked and the company would have to issue an apology such world be the backlash.
Do men have an equivalent, highly publicised racing event, that's male only?
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over a year ago
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"So, if what I read is true (from the posts above), CR are saying that including men would reduce / impact in the money raised?
So, how is this remark not gender biased and sexist?
If an organisation said this about including women in an event, whomever wrote it would be sacked and the company would have to issue an apology such world be the backlash.
Do men have an equivalent, highly publicised racing event, that's male only?
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Tour de France. |
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"From their website:
We regularly review our events to make them the best they can be and four years ago we seriously looked at whether we should let men enter Race for Life. However, our research showed that Race for Life’s success is due to its appeal to women as a women-only event and to allow men to enter could bring in less income for the charity’s life saving work.
No I don't think it's sexist at all
If men want to have a run about to raise money feel free.
We cannot risk this vital source of income to cancer research. We hope you understand that this decision has been made in the best interests of the cause.
Any ideas as why this would be?
They say the event brings out a strong sense of sisterhood.
Yes, I read their explanation but I am not convinced at all. We wanted to enter as a family to do our bit for cancer research, but to be honest have been put off altogether.
Maybe your wife and children can do the race and you can volunteer to give out drinks or something similar.
I am the wife.....lol
maybe that is a solution yes, but sounds a bit sexist aswell......are you suggesting he goes on kitchen duty...lol!"
Oops. My apologies. But they. Do need lots of volunteers. |
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"So, if what I read is true (from the posts above), CR are saying that including men would reduce / impact in the money raised?
So, how is this remark not gender biased and sexist?
If an organisation said this about including women in an event, whomever wrote it would be sacked and the company would have to issue an apology such world be the backlash.
Do men have an equivalent, highly publicised racing event, that's male only?
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So this charity should risk losing money because a few people are sensitive over the wording of the event ?
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"Formula 1 racing.
In fact just about every high profile event is segregated by sex.
There's nothing stopping men from starting their own events."
Fromula 1. Tour De France.
Not equivalent I'm afraid as both of these are professional sporting events and not charity fundraising events which the general public take part in.
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"So, if what I read is true (from the posts above), CR are saying that including men would reduce / impact in the money raised?
So, how is this remark not gender biased and sexist?
If an organisation said this about including women in an event, whomever wrote it would be sacked and the company would have to issue an apology such world be the backlash.
Do men have an equivalent, highly publicised racing event, that's male only?
Tour de France."
Thatr is a very good point, and I agree, sexist! |
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"Formula 1 racing.
In fact just about every high profile event is segregated by sex.
There's nothing stopping men from starting their own events.
Fromula 1. Tour De France.
Not equivalent I'm afraid as both of these are professional sporting events and not charity fundraising events which the general public take part in.
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Movember ?
Man on the run - For men & their sons.
The one ball fun run.
To name but a few. |
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around 3% of cancer research's funding goes to male specific cancers. there are three times as many male specific cancers as there are female specific cancers. men are more at risk from cancer. more men die from cancer. men get breast cancer too. i'd say there is a misandric dichotomy. |
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"around 3% of cancer research's funding goes to male specific cancers. there are three times as many male specific cancers as there are female specific cancers. men are more at risk from cancer. more men die from cancer. men get breast cancer too. i'd say there is a misandric dichotomy."
Breasts are nicer to look at than prostates.
But seriously this is a big issue, women's cancers are given more spotlight.
This is gradually being redressed but far too slowly. |
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"around 3% of cancer research's funding goes to male specific cancers. there are three times as many male specific cancers as there are female specific cancers. men are more at risk from cancer. more men die from cancer. men get breast cancer too. i'd say there is a misandric dichotomy.
Breasts are nicer to look at than prostates.
But seriously this is a big issue, women's cancers are given more spotlight.
This is gradually being redressed but far too slowly. "
it's just one of a range of mens issues that is repeatedly sidelined. a proper dialouge on these topics is long overdue |
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Race for life is fanrtastic and part of the reason why is because it is primarily for females and a rtotally inclusive event. It is also forst and foremost about raising monaey and awareness but many of the participants would never take part in a mixed race for fear of being humiliated by much faster runners.
There are male only events, they are far less succesful. And men can be involved in Race for Life in a volunteering capacity.
As the website says, they know that this format works so why change it. |
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"Race for life is fanrtastic and part of the reason why is because it is primarily for females and a rtotally inclusive event. It is also forst and foremost about raising monaey and awareness but many of the participants would never take part in a mixed race for fear of being humiliated by much faster runners.
There are male only events, they are far less succesful. And men can be involved in Race for Life in a volunteering capacity.
As the website says, they know that this format works so why change it. "
they haven't tried another format so there no comparison.
it should be changed because of the reasons given in previous posts. |
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"Race for life is fanrtastic and part of the reason why is because it is primarily for females and a rtotally inclusive event. It is also forst and foremost about raising monaey and awareness but many of the participants would never take part in a mixed race for fear of being humiliated by much faster runners.
There are male only events, they are far less succesful. And men can be involved in Race for Life in a volunteering capacity.
As the website says, they know that this format works so why change it.
they haven't tried another format so there no comparison.
it should be changed because of the reasons given in previous posts. "
forgot to point out that males over the age of 12 are excluded so your statement that it is "totally inclusive" is wide of the truth. |
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Do men have an equivalent, highly publicised racing event, that's male only?
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Tennis has equal prize funds, swimming and athletics women get to compete at the dsame distances but pretty much every other sport is deeply sexist. The TV coverage, the salaries, the sponsorship, the prize money. Men win hands down in almost every sport |
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"Race for life is fanrtastic and part of the reason why is because it is primarily for females and a rtotally inclusive event. It is also forst and foremost about raising monaey and awareness but many of the participants would never take part in a mixed race for fear of being humiliated by much faster runners.
There are male only events, they are far less succesful. And men can be involved in Race for Life in a volunteering capacity.
As the website says, they know that this format works so why change it. "
A totally inclusive event which excludes and entire gender from taking part, because the appearance of men in running shorts will hurt the bottom line.
Thats NOT 'totally inclusive event' if I cant run because Ive got balls. |
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"Do the people moaning about it actually have any desire to run one?
i tried to apply and was turned down when my mother was diagnosed with breast cancer. "
What's to stop you running any other running event to raise funds? |
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"Do the people moaning about it actually have any desire to run one?"
Yes. To honor someone I care about who has end stage cancer.
Personally, Id just like everyone to race together. Because as a whole, cancer is pretty in-discriminatory when it comes to killing people you love and care about. |
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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago
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"Formula 1 racing.
In fact just about every high profile event is segregated by sex.
There's nothing stopping men from starting their own events.
Fromula 1. Tour De France.
Not equivalent I'm afraid as both of these are professional sporting events and not charity fundraising events which the general public take part in."
But that's what you asked for:
"Do men have an equivalent, highly publicised racing event, that's male only?"
They are both highly publicised.
The fact that Race for Life is a charity event is what makes it not against the Equality Act, and if men ran a Men Only event they would get the same deal. |
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The bit that made me cringe was the section in their rules that said trans gender women who identify as male can run as long as they bring their birth certificate to prove that they were born female....
they even discriminate against which way people are transgendering (if that is even a word!) |
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"Do the people moaning about it actually have any desire to run one?
Yes. To honor someone I care about who has end stage cancer.
Personally, Id just like everyone to race together. Because as a whole, cancer is pretty in-discriminatory when it comes to killing people yo
u love and care about."
Enter the One Ball Fun Run
Or Man on the Run.
Both make only events. |
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"The bit that made me cringe was the section in their rules that said trans gender women who identify as male can run as long as they bring their birth certificate to prove that they were born female....
they even discriminate against which way people are transgendering (if that is even a word!)"
That is odd. What about women who were born male? Are they excluded?
Thats where they might be on dodgy ground. |
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"Race for life is fanrtastic and part of the reason why is because it is primarily for females and a rtotally inclusive event. It is also forst and foremost about raising monaey and awareness but many of the participants would never take part in a mixed race for fear of being humiliated by much faster runners.
There are male only events, they are far less succesful. And men can be involved in Race for Life in a volunteering capacity.
As the website says, they know that this format works so why change it.
A totally inclusive event which excludes and entire gender from taking part, because the appearance of men in running shorts will hurt the bottom line.
Thats NOT 'totally inclusive event' if I cant run because Ive got balls. "
Get a better fitting jock strap.
(Sorry , I know it's a serious subject) |
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"Do the people moaning about it actually have any desire to run one?
Yes. To honor someone I care about who has end stage cancer.
Personally, Id just like everyone to race together. Because as a whole, cancer is pretty in-discriminatory when it comes to killing people yo
u love and care about.
Enter the One Ball Fun Run
Or Man on the Run.
Both make only events. "
It wont work for myself, husband, son and daughter though....maybe I should contact them to see if they exclude ? |
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"Race for life is fanrtastic and part of the reason why is because it is primarily for females and a rtotally inclusive event. It is also forst and foremost about raising monaey and awareness but many of the participants would never take part in a mixed race for fear of being humiliated by much faster runners.
There are male only events, they are far less succesful. And men can be involved in Race for Life in a volunteering capacity.
As the website says, they know that this format works so why change it.
A totally inclusive event which excludes and entire gender from taking part, because the appearance of men in running shorts will hurt the bottom line.
Thats NOT 'totally inclusive event' if I cant run because Ive got balls.
Get a better fitting jock strap.
(Sorry , I know it's a serious subject) "
pmsl maybe if I wax his legs and get him some fake boobs, he can infiltrate the race! |
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Do men have an equivalent, highly publicised racing event, that's male only?
Tennis has equal prize funds, swimming and athletics women get to compete at the dsame distances but pretty much every other sport is deeply sexist. The TV coverage, the salaries, the sponsorship, the prize money. Men win hands down in almost every sport"
this is a fun run that takes place in hundreds of towns and cities. it can't be compared to a main stream sporting event such as the london marathon, wimbledon fortnight etc.
you seem to advocate excluding males as a punishment for other professional sport being sexist. |
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"Do the people moaning about it actually have any desire to run one?
Yes. To honor someone I care about who has end stage cancer.
Personally, Id just like everyone to race together. Because as a whole, cancer is pretty in-discriminatory when it comes to killing people yo
u love and care about.
Enter the One Ball Fun Run
Or Man on the Run.
Both make only events.
It wont work for myself, husband, son and daughter though....maybe I should contact them to see if they exclude ?"
Is there not another event that you could do together?
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"Do the people moaning about it actually have any desire to run one?
i tried to apply and was turned down when my mother was diagnosed with breast cancer.
What's to stop you running any other running event to raise funds?"
i have ..... dosen't mean this isn't misadndric though. |
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"Do the people moaning about it actually have any desire to run one?
Yes. To honor someone I care about who has end stage cancer.
Personally, Id just like everyone to race together. Because as a whole, cancer is pretty in-discriminatory when it comes to killing people yo
u love and care about.
Enter the One Ball Fun Run
Or Man on the Run.
Both make only events.
It wont work for myself, husband, son and daughter though....maybe I should contact them to see if they exclude ?"
No, you are right.
Maybe enter a local family fun run, there are many , and collect sponsorship.
It's good that you want to do it as a family. |
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Do men have an equivalent, highly publicised racing event, that's male only?
Tennis has equal prize funds, swimming and athletics women get to compete at the dsame distances but pretty much every other sport is deeply sexist. The TV coverage, the salaries, the sponsorship, the prize money. Men win hands down in almost every sport
this is a fun run that takes place in hundreds of towns and cities. it can't be compared to a main stream sporting event such as the london marathon, wimbledon fortnight etc.
you seem to advocate excluding males as a punishment for other professional sport being sexist."
Or I could have just been answering the question posed  |
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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago
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"Do the people moaning about it actually have any desire to run one?
Yes. To honor someone I care about who has end stage cancer.
Personally, Id just like everyone to race together. Because as a whole, cancer is pretty in-discriminatory when it comes to killing people yo
u love and care about.
Enter the One Ball Fun Run
Or Man on the Run.
Both make only events.
It wont work for myself, husband, son and daughter though....maybe I should contact them to see if they exclude ?
Is there not another event that you could do together?
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York does 5k, 10k, half marathons and marathons that are for both sexes, so I am sure there are others, and you can get a sponsorship pack from just about any charity these days. |
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"So, if what I read is true (from the posts above), CR are saying that including men would reduce / impact in the money raised?
So, how is this remark not gender biased and sexist?
If an organisation said this about including women in an event, whomever wrote it would be sacked and the company would have to issue an apology such world be the backlash.
Do men have an equivalent, highly publicised racing event, that's male only?
Tour de France."
TDF have both a male race & a female race. |
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"Do the people moaning about it actually have any desire to run one?
Yes. To honor someone I care about who has end stage cancer.
Personally, Id just like everyone to race together. Because as a whole, cancer is pretty in-discriminatory when it comes to killing people yo
u love and care about.
Enter the One Ball Fun Run
Or Man on the Run.
Both make only events.
It wont work for myself, husband, son and daughter though....maybe I should contact them to see if they exclude ?
Is there not another event that you could do together?
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the point is in the 21st century they shouldn't have to ..... when my mum was having cancer treatment and eventually having her breast removed what good is it as regards to showing her my support by entering an event for testicular cancer. |
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"Do the people moaning about it actually have any desire to run one?
Yes. To honor someone I care about who has end stage cancer.
Personally, Id just like everyone to race together. Because as a whole, cancer is pretty in-discriminatory when it comes to killing people yo
u love and care about.
Enter the One Ball Fun Run
Or Man on the Run.
Both make only events.
It wont work for myself, husband, son and daughter though....maybe I should contact them to see if they exclude ?
Is there not another event that you could do together?
York does 5k, 10k, half marathons and marathons that are for both sexes, so I am sure there are others, and you can get a sponsorship pack from just about any charity these days."
Exactly, it was very much a rhetorical question. Race for Life have not sopped 1 person ever from running for and raising funds for CRUK |
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"So, if what I read is true (from the posts above), CR are saying that including men would reduce / impact in the money raised?
So, how is this remark not gender biased and sexist?
If an organisation said this about including women in an event, whomever wrote it would be sacked and the company would have to issue an apology such world be the backlash.
Do men have an equivalent, highly publicised racing event, that's male only?
Tour de France.
TDF have both a male race & a female race."
No they dont |
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Do men have an equivalent, highly publicised racing event, that's male only?
Tennis has equal prize funds, swimming and athletics women get to compete at the dsame distances but pretty much every other sport is deeply sexist. The TV coverage, the salaries, the sponsorship, the prize money. Men win hands down in almost every sport
this is a fun run that takes place in hundreds of towns and cities. it can't be compared to a main stream sporting event such as the london marathon, wimbledon fortnight etc.
you seem to advocate excluding males as a punishment for other professional sport being sexist.
Or I could have just been answering the question posed "
you came across as being an appologist for misandry to be honest. |
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"Do the people moaning about it actually have any desire to run one?
Yes. To honor someone I care about who has end stage cancer.
Personally, Id just like everyone to race together. Because as a whole, cancer is pretty in-discriminatory when it comes to killing people yo
u love and care about.
Enter the One Ball Fun Run
Or Man on the Run.
Both make only events.
It wont work for myself, husband, son and daughter though....maybe I should contact them to see if they exclude ?
Is there not another event that you could do together?
the point is in the 21st century they shouldn't have to ..... when my mum was having cancer treatment and eventually having her breast removed what good is it as regards to showing her my support by entering an event for testicular cancer. "
But what was to stop you running a local event for CRUK? Why does it have to be Race for Life or raising money for testicular cancer? |
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Do men have an equivalent, highly publicised racing event, that's male only?
Tennis has equal prize funds, swimming and athletics women get to compete at the dsame distances but pretty much every other sport is deeply sexist. The TV coverage, the salaries, the sponsorship, the prize money. Men win hands down in almost every sport
this is a fun run that takes place in hundreds of towns and cities. it can't be compared to a main stream sporting event such as the london marathon, wimbledon fortnight etc.
you seem to advocate excluding males as a punishment for other professional sport being sexist.
Or I could have just been answering the question posed
you came across as being an appologist for misandry to be honest."
To be honest I think that given how utterly sexist the world of sport is, men moaning that they are excluded from a fundraising event is the epitomy of male privilege |
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" Race for Life have not sopped 1 person ever from running for and raising funds for CRUK
yes they have"
No they haven't, they've just stated they don't let men run in Race for Life. Nothing stopping them from raising funds in other events. |
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" Race for Life have not sopped 1 person ever from running for and raising funds for CRUK
yes they have
How?"
i applied for race for life and they turned me down .... because i was male. so you're wrong no matter how you try to dress this up .... it's misandry plain and simple. |
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" Race for Life have not sopped 1 person ever from running for and raising funds for CRUK
yes they have
How?
i applied for race for life and they turned me down .... because i was male. so you're wrong no matter how you try to dress this up .... it's misandry plain and simple."
And race for life is the only eay that you could possibly have raised money for CRUK?
You seem to be ignoring every suggestion that you could simply do another event? So why does it have to be Race for Life? |
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I've run it a number of times, including with my Mum who subsequently died from cancer.
It's a lovely race that has a great atmosphere and you see lots of dads, older sons, husbands , brothers - other male relatives cheering you at the end.
I like the race - because I'm sexist - no - far from it. It feels uncompetitive, safe, very emotional. I understand men are affected too. It's just never been an issue before - there are men only events.
As usual something that's charitable gets turned into appearing like something it isn't.
When my mum ran the whole thing in 2008 - I was really proud of her. In 2011 I'd lost her to it and it was a hugely emotional race. I have only known it as a female only race - and I didn't see it as sexist. I just saw it as ladies running for a cause they felt strongly about. |
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Do men have an equivalent, highly publicised racing event, that's male only?
Tennis has equal prize funds, swimming and athletics women get to compete at the dsame distances but pretty much every other sport is deeply sexist. The TV coverage, the salaries, the sponsorship, the prize money. Men win hands down in almost every sport
this is a fun run that takes place in hundreds of towns and cities. it can't be compared to a main stream sporting event such as the london marathon, wimbledon fortnight etc.
you seem to advocate excluding males as a punishment for other professional sport being sexist.
Or I could have just been answering the question posed
you came across as being an appologist for misandry to be honest.
To be honest I think that given how utterly sexist the world of sport is, men moaning that they are excluded from a fundraising event is the epitomy of male privilege"
Stop comparing the world of professional sport to amateur fundraising events. Its a straw man argument.
Compare apples for apples. Show me ANY other amateur fund raising event which states that having one particular gender take part would result in LESS money being raised. |
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" Race for Life have not sopped 1 person ever from running for and raising funds for CRUK
yes they have
How?
i applied for race for life and they turned me down .... because i was male. so you're wrong no matter how you try to dress this up .... it's misandry plain and simple.
And race for life is the only eay that you could possibly have raised money for CRUK?
You seem to be ignoring every suggestion that you could simply do another event? So why does it have to be Race for Life?"
i'm not ignoring your suggestions .... i don't see why i should be excluded on grounds of gender ......being excluded on grounds of gender is sexist by default wether you admit it or not
i'm out on this now because your dogmatic approach is getting too much like herding cats |
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" Race for Life have not sopped 1 person ever from running for and raising funds for CRUK
yes they have
How?
i applied for race for life and they turned me down .... because i was male. so you're wrong no matter how you try to dress this up .... it's misandry plain and simple.
And race for life is the only eay that you could possibly have raised money for CRUK?
You seem to be ignoring every suggestion that you could simply do another event? So why does it have to be Race for Life?
i'm not ignoring your suggestions .... i don't see why i should be excluded on grounds of gender ......being excluded on grounds of gender is sexist by default wether you admit it or not
i'm out on this now because your dogmatic approach is getting too much like herding cats"
So basically you want to do race for life to raise money, you can;t and instead of looking for alternatives moan about how unfair it is?
Is that not cutting tour nose off to spite your face? Surely the fundraising is more important than the event it is done in? |
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Do men have an equivalent, highly publicised racing event, that's male only?
Tennis has equal prize funds, swimming and athletics women get to compete at the dsame distances but pretty much every other sport is deeply sexist. The TV coverage, the salaries, the sponsorship, the prize money. Men win hands down in almost every sport
this is a fun run that takes place in hundreds of towns and cities. it can't be compared to a main stream sporting event such as the london marathon, wimbledon fortnight etc.
you seem to advocate excluding males as a punishment for other professional sport being sexist.
Or I could have just been answering the question posed
you came across as being an appologist for misandry to be honest.
To be honest I think that given how utterly sexist the world of sport is, men moaning that they are excluded from a fundraising event is the epitomy of male privilege
Stop comparing the world of professional sport to amateur fundraising events. Its a straw man argument.
Compare apples for apples. Show me ANY other amateur fund raising event which states that having one particular gender take part would result in LESS money being raised."
I think it is unfair that I am being critiised for answering a question that was asked?
But you need to look at Race for life as a whole, it started on a much much smaller scale, its target demographic was women, and women who probably didn't exercise and would never dream of enetering a run. Hence why people would sponser them. And from those 5km events it has grown to hundreds of enets, including marathons and OCRs. It makes sense that they remain true to their core demographic that has raised millions and has led to the huge growth of the events. Do you really think that having stunmbled on a format that works incredibly well the organisers are going to make huge changes to that?
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If this were an inclusive event, and not just focusing on a narrow spectrum of cancers then I might just wish to participate.
However I feel that there isn't as much publicity or willingness to discuss male specific cancers |
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"If this were an inclusive event, and not just focusing on a narrow spectrum of cancers then I might just wish to participate.
However I feel that there isn't as much publicity or willingness to discuss male specific cancers "
It raises money for 200 types of cancer.
Prostate, testicular and bowel cancer are more talked about nowadays. |
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Yes, I read their explanation but I am not convinced at all. We wanted to enter as a family to do our bit for cancer research, but to be honest have been put off altogether. "
Relay For Life.
A family event if you actually want to help make a difference. |
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Yes, I read their explanation but I am not convinced at all. We wanted to enter as a family to do our bit for cancer research, but to be honest have been put off altogether.
Relay For Life.
A family event if you actually want to help make a difference."
Thank you for that, I had never heard of that, just looking at the website now. |
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it seemed reasonable to you to criticise me after answering questions you asked .... so i don't see how you are being treated unfairly in all honesty. |
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The TV coverage, the salaries, the sponsorship, the prize money. Men win hands down in almost every sport"
Is that not because mens sports are more popular? The more money you bring to the sport the more coverage and pay/prizes you get.
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I wonder how much money raised for cancer research actually goes to cancer research?
But personally my opinion is.
Sexist or not, if the money raised saves at least one person then it's worth it. |
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In the big scheme of things goes it matter? A women only race that is getting bigger every year, raising millions, and saving lives, it works as it is, leave it alone
I don't think anything as important as cancer reaserch should be jeopardised by some kind of need to prove a point against feminism, and pedantic arguments, men can't run in race for life, that's it, that's all we need to know, men who feel hard done by have shirt memories, maybe men should organise a male only event, if you feel so strongly, but please don't mess with something that works, it's counterproductive, I know a few women who have done the race for life, and some that have said that they entered BECAUSE it was a lady only event, and that made them feel more comfortable.
Sometimes you have to put aside your own agenda for the greater good |
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The Shine Night Walk - both sexes can enter. That's for Cancer Research UK.
I hadn't looked when Race for Life was here this year but after the thread - there's 4 of us now entered for July.
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"In the big scheme of things goes it matter? A women only race that is getting bigger every year, raising millions, and saving lives, it works as it is, leave it alone
I don't think anything as important as cancer reaserch should be jeopardised by some kind of need to prove a point against feminism, and pedantic arguments, men can't run in race for life, that's it, that's all we need to know, men who feel hard done by have shirt memories, maybe men should organise a male only event, if you feel so strongly, but please don't mess with something that works, it's counterproductive, I know a few women who have done the race for life, and some that have said that they entered BECAUSE it was a lady only event, and that made them feel more comfortable.
Sometimes you have to put aside your own agenda for the greater good "
i'm not sure how pointing out that discriminating against a group of people on the basis of gender is proving a point against feminism, maybe you could explain that idea. and while your about it maybe you could explain why people who "feel hard done by" as you put it, have "short memories". there is no agenda here other than wishing to show support to family members who have suffered and sometimes died of cancer, but being unable to on account of not being of a certain sex. |
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"i'm not sure how pointing out that discriminating against a group of people on the basis of gender is proving a point against feminism, maybe you could explain that idea. and while your about it maybe you could explain why people who "feel hard done by" as you put it, have "short memories". there is no agenda here other than wishing to show support to family members who have suffered and sometimes died of cancer, but being unable to on account of not being of a certain sex. "
But you can - at other events , some of which are men only.
And the women running - they don't just remember women who battle it - they have signs on them for all who are lost to this disease. Both sexes.
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"i'm not sure how pointing out that discriminating against a group of people on the basis of gender is proving a point against feminism, maybe you could explain that idea. and while your about it maybe you could explain why people who "feel hard done by" as you put it, have "short memories". there is no agenda here other than wishing to show support to family members who have suffered and sometimes died of cancer, but being unable to on account of not being of a certain sex.
But you can - at other events , some of which are men only.
And the women running - they don't just remember women who battle it - they have signs on them for all who are lost to this disease. Both sexes.
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so maybe people who come up against the glass ceiling should start their own business by that logic. |
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"i'm not sure how pointing out that discriminating against a group of people on the basis of gender is proving a point against feminism, maybe you could explain that idea. and while your about it maybe you could explain why people who "feel hard done by" as you put it, have "short memories". there is no agenda here other than wishing to show support to family members who have suffered and sometimes died of cancer, but being unable to on account of not being of a certain sex.
But you can - at other events , some of which are men only.
And the women running - they don't just remember women who battle it - they have signs on them for all who are lost to this disease. Both sexes.
so maybe people who come up against the glass ceiling should start their own business by that logic."
Now you've lost me.
Have you been to watch it ever?
I cannot understand how an event that raises funds is now seen as sexist.
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But you can - at other events , some of which are men only.
And the women running - they don't just remember women who battle it - they have signs on them for all who are lost to this disease. Both sexes.
so maybe people who come up against the glass ceiling should start their own business by that logic.
Now you've lost me.
Have you been to watch it ever?
I cannot understand how an event that raises funds is now seen as sexist.
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yes i have .... my wife (who lost her mum to breast cancer) and a close friend took part in it. a couple of years later our close friend was diagnosed with the same, the same week that my mum was diagnosed too. thankfully both survived but only after going through the pain and anguish that goes along with cancer. i wanted to show support of this mainstream event but found i was not allowed on the basis of my sex. i don't expect cancer research to change anytime soon but i feel i have the right to correctly point out that discrimination on grounds of gender is sexism by default and has no place in modern society and that the need to raise the profile of cancer and it's research should be above gender discrimination politics. |
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Have you been to watch it ever?
I cannot understand how an event that raises funds is now seen as sexist.
yes i have .... my wife (who lost her mum to breast cancer) and a close friend took part in it. a couple of years later our close friend was diagnosed with the same, the same week that my mum was diagnosed too. thankfully both survived but only after going through the pain and anguish that goes along with cancer. i wanted to show support of this mainstream event but found i was not allowed on the basis of my sex. i don't expect cancer research to change anytime soon but i feel i have the right to correctly point out that discrimination on grounds of gender is sexism by default and has no place in modern society and that the need to raise the profile of cancer and it's research should be above gender discrimination politics."
I'm sorry for what you've been through as a family. But - as has been said above there are men only events too. And other events whole families can enter.
I'm more comfortable just jogging with other ladies on the day. Far less self conscious. I'm sure many ladies are the same. And that's how it started - as a sisterhood. I wonder if you'd lose ladies from doing it if men were permitted.
I've always been supported by Mr, my male friends and family. Some come to the end to watch - they have strong views on life. Never have they seen it as sexist.
I'm leaving the thread now as for me Race for Life is synonymous with my Mum so it holds a special place. I'll carry on doing it for her.
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Both men and women can develop breast cancer (although it is more prevalent in women).
But, as a general rule, more men take part in running races than women. There are literally thousands of 5km events every week throughout the UK so it isn't hard to find a run that will accept men.
If Race for Life remains "women only" and as a consequence, encourage more women to run, then fantastic! |
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