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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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General views on guys n girls that use steroids.
i go to the gym a lot and have friends that use them but i havent turned to them.
They have great built bodies but is it worth it in the long run.
your views please. |
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"General views on guys n girls that use steroids.
i go to the gym a lot and have friends that use them but i havent turned to them.
They have great built bodies but is it worth it in the long run.
your views please."
No.
The long term effects can be catastrophic |
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over a year ago
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ive never used but done some reading up on it when i joined a bodybuilding forum
couple things if you are gonna go down that road
use dont abuse. you dont need to use high dosages to get results. the higher the dose the more prone to side effects you`ll be
choose a good established lab with good feedback from users. get pharma grade where ever possible. (yeah genuine pharmaceutical companies produce steroids. they are used to treat muscle wasting diseases)
and use a PCT to finish it. Some people on low dose steroid cycles skip it but still better safe than sorry. PCT will kick your natural testosterone back into production which steroids can shutdown. |
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By *al2001Man
over a year ago
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Are they worth it in the long term? Steroids effects aren't permanent, you have to keep cycling to maintain size. But side effects can be permanent like hair loss and TRT use for life when your nads shut down after few cycles
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By *al2001Man
over a year ago
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"ive never used but done some reading up on it when i joined a bodybuilding forum
couple things if you are gonna go down that road
use dont abuse. you dont need to use high dosages to get results. the higher the dose the more prone to side effects you`ll be
choose a good established lab with good feedback from users. get pharma grade where ever possible. (yeah genuine pharmaceutical companies produce steroids. they are used to treat muscle wasting diseases)
and use a PCT to finish it. Some people on low dose steroid cycles skip it but still better safe than sorry. PCT will kick your natural testosterone back into production which steroids can shutdown. "
Never skip PCT. any use shuts you down |
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I'm a fixture at my uni gym. Assumed to be staff and research with sports science lads. There's a high usage rate even amongst students.
I'm relaxed and open minded as I think we all own our bodies. I'm concerned that some may not understand the fuller potential consequences but also appreciate their hard work and big muscles.
Legally prescribed options exist and fantastic results can be obtained without them.
There's growing pressure on men to look better and people often underestimate how great they are. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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My old sparing partner turned to steroids. He's now in jail for quite a serious incident.
Its your body, so not sure people's opinions on here will make your mind up. I would say know what your putting in you. Have a good PCT on hand, if you notice any sides starting then stop and go to the PCT straight away.
And listen to the people around you, you won't notice a change in your personality but they will.
Good luck |
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By *al2001Man
over a year ago
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"Each to their own,but if it goes tits up,its your own fault."
Speaking of tits 
A very real side effect is gyno. AKA bitch tits
Can come on quick and permanent. I had it developing once in matter of days but nipped it in the bud.pardon the pun |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Some people have to take steroids for Heath reasons ,I know it's a different kind but they still have terrible side effects ...I take them in the winter to help me breath and ,I gain weight.and I don't sleep ,it's given me type 2 diabetes ,I become very moody as well and get a moon face  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Each to their own,but if it goes tits up,its your own fault.
Speaking of tits
A very real side effect is gyno. AKA bitch tits
Can come on quick and permanent. I had it developing once in matter of days but nipped it in the bud.pardon the pun"
What did you do to stop that from happening? What did you change? |
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By *al2001Man
over a year ago
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"Each to their own,but if it goes tits up,its your own fault.
Speaking of tits
A very real side effect is gyno. AKA bitch tits
Can come on quick and permanent. I had it developing once in matter of days but nipped it in the bud.pardon the pun
What did you do to stop that from happening? What did you change?"
Took a pill called tomaxifen. It's used to treat breast cancer in women but has an off the label use for bodybuilders |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Each to their own,but if it goes tits up,its your own fault.
Speaking of tits
A very real side effect is gyno. AKA bitch tits
Can come on quick and permanent. I had it developing once in matter of days but nipped it in the bud.pardon the pun
What did you do to stop that from happening? What did you change?
Took a pill called tomaxifen. It's used to treat breast cancer in women but has an off the label use for bodybuilders"
Thanks for the info  |
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By *al2001Man
over a year ago
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And when posters say do a PCT,post cycle therapy the pill you take is clomid. It's a female fertility treatment. Again it has an off the label use to bidybuilders
So that's breast cancer and fertility meds on top of the steroids.
Kind of crazy |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"And when posters say do a PCT,post cycle therapy the pill you take is clomid. It's a female fertility treatment. Again it has an off the label use to bidybuilders
So that's breast cancer and fertility meds on top of the steroids.
Kind of crazy"
Cheers star man |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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My views.
Seems a lot of hassle and potential for health risks to me. I know some people who used them, for bodybuilding and one just to get a little bigger because he couldn't put on weight and thought he was too skinny. 2 are dead now,both heart attacks and both under 50. One had a few trips to hospital with his heart and both the others became extremely angry and abusive towards my daughters, on them. I'm no medical expert but I would say don't do it. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"And when posters say do a PCT,post cycle therapy the pill you take is clomid. It's a female fertility treatment. Again it has an off the label use to bidybuilders
So that's breast cancer and fertility meds on top of the steroids.
Kind of crazy"
Clomid isn't a fertility treatment.
It's an anti-oestrogen therapy.
"Bitch tit is caused by the steroids aromatising and causing an oestrogen rise hence breast tissue forming.
It works within the brain in a different way to Tamoxifen. |
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By *al2001Man
over a year ago
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"And when posters say do a PCT,post cycle therapy the pill you take is clomid. It's a female fertility treatment. Again it has an off the label use to bidybuilders
So that's breast cancer and fertility meds on top of the steroids.
Kind of crazy
Clomid isn't a fertility treatment.
It's an anti-oestrogen therapy.
"Bitch tit is caused by the steroids aromatising and causing an oestrogen rise hence breast tissue forming.
It works within the brain in a different way to Tamoxifen."
Clomid is a fertility treatment. Knew it was and just googled to be sure to be sure |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Steroids are a class C drug and anyone importing or manufacturing them with the intent to supply is breaking the law. I'm not sure a thread discussing their use and even how to obtain them should be allowed. Any mention of recreational drug use and a thread gets shut down.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Whats your problem with steroid users punk?!! You wanna piece o'me?!!!
I will crush you - CRRRRUUUUSSSSH YOU!!!!"
While I know you are joking, it does amuse me that people will get so worked up on these threads and then tell you roid rage doesn't actually happen |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Whats your problem with steroid users punk?!! You wanna piece o'me?!!!
I will crush you - CRRRRUUUUSSSSH YOU!!!!
While I know you are joking, it does amuse me that people will get so worked up on these threads and then tell you roid rage doesn't actually happen"
You just need to read some of the comments on bodybuilding videos on Youtube to see my point, not implying that they all use steroids, but it's a highly emotional area.
Though having said that, it makes me wonder, could it be that:
Amongst a large portion of the male population, big muscles are seen as masculine, and therefore desirable.
Many guys don't have big muscles, but want them and feel insecure without them.
This can lead to feelings of self doubt, anger and frustration, which reveal themselves through outward aggression, even in the absence of steroids.
Then the person DOES start taking steroids, gets bigger muscles, develops an ego because of it, and now expresses their anger even MORE openly.
Basically what I'm suggesting is, could there be other factors at play for so much of the aggression in the bodybuilding world, which aren't actually caused by steroids? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Whats your problem with steroid users punk?!! You wanna piece o'me?!!!
I will crush you - CRRRRUUUUSSSSH YOU!!!!
While I know you are joking, it does amuse me that people will get so worked up on these threads and then tell you roid rage doesn't actually happen
You just need to read some of the comments on bodybuilding videos on Youtube to see my point, not implying that they all use steroids, but it's a highly emotional area.
Though having said that, it makes me wonder, could it be that:
Amongst a large portion of the male population, big muscles are seen as masculine, and therefore desirable.
Many guys don't have big muscles, but want them and feel insecure without them.
This can lead to feelings of self doubt, anger and frustration, which reveal themselves through outward aggression, even in the absence of steroids.
Then the person DOES start taking steroids, gets bigger muscles, develops an ego because of it, and now expresses their anger even MORE openly.
Basically what I'm suggesting is, could there be other factors at play for so much of the aggression in the bodybuilding world, which aren't actually caused by steroids? "
You mean some people will be cunts with small muscles and some will still be cunts but with bigger muscles  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Whats your problem with steroid users punk?!! You wanna piece o'me?!!!
I will crush you - CRRRRUUUUSSSSH YOU!!!!
While I know you are joking, it does amuse me that people will get so worked up on these threads and then tell you roid rage doesn't actually happen
You just need to read some of the comments on bodybuilding videos on Youtube to see my point, not implying that they all use steroids, but it's a highly emotional area.
Though having said that, it makes me wonder, could it be that:
Amongst a large portion of the male population, big muscles are seen as masculine, and therefore desirable.
Many guys don't have big muscles, but want them and feel insecure without them.
This can lead to feelings of self doubt, anger and frustration, which reveal themselves through outward aggression, even in the absence of steroids.
Then the person DOES start taking steroids, gets bigger muscles, develops an ego because of it, and now expresses their anger even MORE openly.
Basically what I'm suggesting is, could there be other factors at play for so much of the aggression in the bodybuilding world, which aren't actually caused by steroids?
You mean some people will be cunts with small muscles and some will still be cunts but with bigger muscles "
Is that from experience??...M. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Whats your problem with steroid users punk?!! You wanna piece o'me?!!!
I will crush you - CRRRRUUUUSSSSH YOU!!!!
While I know you are joking, it does amuse me that people will get so worked up on these threads and then tell you roid rage doesn't actually happen
You just need to read some of the comments on bodybuilding videos on Youtube to see my point, not implying that they all use steroids, but it's a highly emotional area.
Though having said that, it makes me wonder, could it be that:
Amongst a large portion of the male population, big muscles are seen as masculine, and therefore desirable.
Many guys don't have big muscles, but want them and feel insecure without them.
This can lead to feelings of self doubt, anger and frustration, which reveal themselves through outward aggression, even in the absence of steroids.
Then the person DOES start taking steroids, gets bigger muscles, develops an ego because of it, and now expresses their anger even MORE openly.
Basically what I'm suggesting is, could there be other factors at play for so much of the aggression in the bodybuilding world, which aren't actually caused by steroids?
You mean some people will be cunts with small muscles and some will still be cunts but with bigger muscles "
Kind of, it reminds me of a book I once read on the subject, written by a bodybuilder, he said something along the lines of
'I don't believe in road rage, but if you're an asshole, steroids will make you a bigger asshole'
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Whats your problem with steroid users punk?!! You wanna piece o'me?!!!
I will crush you - CRRRRUUUUSSSSH YOU!!!!
While I know you are joking, it does amuse me that people will get so worked up on these threads and then tell you roid rage doesn't actually happen
You just need to read some of the comments on bodybuilding videos on Youtube to see my point, not implying that they all use steroids, but it's a highly emotional area.
Though having said that, it makes me wonder, could it be that:
Amongst a large portion of the male population, big muscles are seen as masculine, and therefore desirable.
Many guys don't have big muscles, but want them and feel insecure without them.
This can lead to feelings of self doubt, anger and frustration, which reveal themselves through outward aggression, even in the absence of steroids.
Then the person DOES start taking steroids, gets bigger muscles, develops an ego because of it, and now expresses their anger even MORE openly.
Basically what I'm suggesting is, could there be other factors at play for so much of the aggression in the bodybuilding world, which aren't actually caused by steroids?
You mean some people will be cunts with small muscles and some will still be cunts but with bigger muscles
Kind of, it reminds me of a book I once read on the subject, written by a bodybuilder, he said something along the lines of
'I don't believe in road rage, but if you're an asshole, steroids will make you a bigger asshole'
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Spot on |
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By (user no longer on site)
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A lot of people are on the "gear" at the gym I go to. Yeah they look big. But I still lift more than them naturally.
Plus they don't train legs, so they look ridiculous.
Natural looks so much better in my opinion. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Whats your problem with steroid users punk?!! You wanna piece o'me?!!!
I will crush you - CRRRRUUUUSSSSH YOU!!!!
While I know you are joking, it does amuse me that people will get so worked up on these threads and then tell you roid rage doesn't actually happen
You just need to read some of the comments on bodybuilding videos on Youtube to see my point, not implying that they all use steroids, but it's a highly emotional area.
Though having said that, it makes me wonder, could it be that:
Amongst a large portion of the male population, big muscles are seen as masculine, and therefore desirable.
Many guys don't have big muscles, but want them and feel insecure without them.
This can lead to feelings of self doubt, anger and frustration, which reveal themselves through outward aggression, even in the absence of steroids.
Then the person DOES start taking steroids, gets bigger muscles, develops an ego because of it, and now expresses their anger even MORE openly.
Basically what I'm suggesting is, could there be other factors at play for so much of the aggression in the bodybuilding world, which aren't actually caused by steroids?
You mean some people will be cunts with small muscles and some will still be cunts but with bigger muscles
Kind of, it reminds me of a book I once read on the subject, written by a bodybuilder, he said something along the lines of
'I don't believe in road rage, but if you're an asshole, steroids will make you a bigger asshole'
Spot on "
The last two statements are true. All Anabolic and I want to stress this not cortico steroids used for a lot of med reasons is derived from testosterone. A male at the of 25 has their levels deplete until around 40 peaking at 17-18.
Hence when we look back at what assholes we were as teenagers
Now testosterone is a naturally occurring hormone and as we know hormones affect our emotions both in men and women. Through too much or lack of.
However I do believe if you are an asshole before you take testosterone you will be an even bigger one if you take too much. But it also enhances a lot of emotions so if you're a happy go lucky type of person that enhances too.
Testosterone replacement therapy TRT can be prescribed for men with low levels but this is a single injection once a month at no way near the dosages being used.
Testosterone is still being hailed as a myrical drug and will still be.
Imagine it like beer. A couple of pints and everything is fine. Fifteen and it's not and you turn into an asshole.
I am no way codoning the illegal purchase and use outside of a doctors surgery but too much incorrect media led information is out there. Again it depends on consumption
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By *uxom redCouple
over a year ago
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"So if women took these steroids they would have bigger boobs and be more fertile?  "
That explains the boobage lol
No I've always had big boobs even before I was given steroids for a medical condition. And not the 'body building ' ones. |
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Putting aside health issues and the possible massive drain on the NHS that steroid use may have. If you need performance enhancing drugs to achieve your goal, you've cheated and wimped out. 2 years ago I started cycling with a goal to enter competitive time trial events, I'm now about 12 months away and I've done it through sheer hard work and pain; no short cuts. I've also had 2 old school friend who suddenly became big through lifting die because of heart attacks |
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"A lot of people are on the "gear" at the gym I go to. Yeah they look big. But I still lift more than them naturally.
Plus they don't train legs, so they look ridiculous.
Natural looks so much better in my opinion. "
Totally true.. I wasn't on gear but I could lift Helluva lot more than the chaps at the gym that were on it. Most of it was gained through hard work, diet and recovery. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"A lot of people are on the "gear" at the gym I go to. Yeah they look big. But I still lift more than them naturally.
Plus they don't train legs, so they look ridiculous.
Natural looks so much better in my opinion.
Totally true.. I wasn't on gear but I could lift Helluva lot more than the chaps at the gym that were on it. Most of it was gained through hard work, diet and recovery. "
Absolutely, when I'm down the gym I'm always out lifting all the other men and looking the bestest in all the mirrors to! No drugs here though! Just hard graft! 27 hours a day on the weights, no food at all and my recovery is running ultra marathons. Of course it cost me any chance of having a relationship with anyone other than my reflection, but you should see my glutes! |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"A lot of people are on the "gear" at the gym I go to. Yeah they look big. But I still lift more than them naturally.
Plus they don't train legs, so they look ridiculous.
Natural looks so much better in my opinion.
Totally true.. I wasn't on gear but I could lift Helluva lot more than the chaps at the gym that were on it. Most of it was gained through hard work, diet and recovery.
Absolutely, when I'm down the gym I'm always out lifting all the other men and looking the bestest in all the mirrors to! No drugs here though! Just hard graft! 27 hours a day on the weights"
You'd get better results if you upped it to 54 hours a day, 14 days a week you're obviously not a serious lifter. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"A lot of people are on the "gear" at the gym I go to. Yeah they look big. But I still lift more than them naturally.
Plus they don't train legs, so they look ridiculous.
Natural looks so much better in my opinion.
Totally true.. I wasn't on gear but I could lift Helluva lot more than the chaps at the gym that were on it. Most of it was gained through hard work, diet and recovery.
Absolutely, when I'm down the gym I'm always out lifting all the other men and looking the bestest in all the mirrors to! No drugs here though! Just hard graft! 27 hours a day on the weights
You'd get better results if you upped it to 54 hours a day, 14 days a week you're obviously not a serious lifter."
Shirt lifter maybe..  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"General views on guys n girls that use steroids.
i go to the gym a lot and have friends that use them but i havent turned to them.
They have great built bodies but is it worth it in the long run.
your views please."
I think people who use them will end up looking like Sly Stallone's mum yuck. Also your penis will shrink and no longer work. Lol. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"A lot of people are on the "gear" at the gym I go to. Yeah they look big. But I still lift more than them naturally.
Plus they don't train legs, so they look ridiculous.
Natural looks so much better in my opinion.
Totally true.. I wasn't on gear but I could lift Helluva lot more than the chaps at the gym that were on it. Most of it was gained through hard work, diet and recovery.
Absolutely, when I'm down the gym I'm always out lifting all the other men and looking the bestest in all the mirrors to! No drugs here though! Just hard graft! 27 hours a day on the weights, no food at all and my recovery is running ultra marathons. Of course it cost me any chance of having a relationship with anyone other than my reflection, but you should see my glutes! "
You can sod that protein and creatine stuff it'll get you nowhere. No clinical trials have been done. Go anywhere near it and you balloon, it's practically like anabolic steroids. I mean I only had a KFC the other day and drove past the gym and by the time I went past my biceps were so pumped. |
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if people want to use steroids then that's up to them...you still need to put in hard work it's just a short cut to achieving your goal. I've never taken them but then I've never wanted to be a bodybuilder. . |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"General views on guys n girls that use steroids.
i go to the gym a lot and have friends that use them but i havent turned to them.
They have great built bodies but is it worth it in the long run.
your views please.
I think people who use them will end up looking like Sly Stallone's mum yuck. Also your penis will shrink and no longer work. Lol."
Oooo look - just as knowledgeable about this as the Electrostim ....
NOT! |
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By *al2001Man
over a year ago
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"Putting aside health issues and the possible massive drain on the NHS that steroid use may have. If you need performance enhancing drugs to achieve your goal, you've cheated and wimped out. 2 years ago I started cycling with a goal to enter competitive time trial events, I'm now about 12 months away and I've done it through sheer hard work and pain; no short cuts. I've also had 2 old school friend who suddenly became big through lifting die because of heart attacks"
Great user name. That's what I call my TRT doc
He's always prodding me with needles |
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By (user no longer on site)
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I race in cat 3 cycle crits and in the sport of cycling the added competitive edge steroids gives is just 10 to 12 %
For the professionals that kind of gain might be worth while; for semi pros and amateurs like myself, training harder and losing more weight and improving power to weight ratio is cheaper and gives much better results then any drug.
It's all about attitude; if you train harder no matter what the weather and you remain dedicated to your goals, you will succeed!
If you need a drug, you'll end up second best; there are no easy ways or short cuts - if you need to cheat you will be bettered by someone who has a winners attitude.
Rant over. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"How is taking steroids different from doping? "
Doping is taking a banned substance to create an advantage in competitive sports. This may be a steroid or not.
Taking a steroid is literally that. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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I work with the a few steroid users. Also play 5aside with other users.
Lads I work with stink. Like realy stink. Don't know if it's coming our thru their sweat or the side affects are constant farting?
5 aside lads are Posing cunts and pretty boy call centre workers for the best part.
I graft for a living. Eat takeaways and drink beer. Who's running rings round who?
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By (user no longer on site)
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"How is taking steroids different from doping?
Doping is taking a banned substance to create an advantage in competitive sports. This may be a steroid or not.
Taking a steroid is literally that. "
Technically true, but philosophically no different. |
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By *al2001Man
over a year ago
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"How is taking steroids different from doping?
Doping is taking a banned substance to create an advantage in competitive sports. This may be a steroid or not.
Taking a steroid is literally that.
Technically true, but philosophically no different. "
Doping is cheating in sport. In Somme cases like combat sports it's not only cheating but dangerous for honest opponents of users
Recreational steroid use only harms yourself |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I race in cat 3 cycle crits and in the sport of cycling the added competitive edge steroids gives is just 10 to 12 %
For the professionals that kind of gain might be worth while; for semi pros and amateurs like myself, training harder and losing more weight and improving power to weight ratio is cheaper and gives much better results then any drug.
It's all about attitude; if you train harder no matter what the weather and you remain dedicated to your goals, you will succeed!
If you need a drug, you'll end up second best; there are no easy ways or short cuts - if you need to cheat you will be bettered by someone who has a winners attitude.
Rant over."
My sentiments exactly. I've had rides where I could barely get up some big hills. What did I do? Carried on pedalling no matter how slow and came back and hit the same hill again and again until I got stronger |
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By (user no longer on site)
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A lot of guys in my apprenticeship used them for a while as it was the in thing.
Think all have stopped now no long term effects most still have most of the size cause they still train.
I tried them for a breif time but turns out if you're a manic depressive holy shit do steroids fuck your head and can put you on a suicidal track.
So never even finished the full cycle |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"A lot of people are on the "gear" at the gym I go to. Yeah they look big. But I still lift more than them naturally.
Plus they don't train legs, so they look ridiculous.
Natural looks so much better in my opinion.
Totally true.. I wasn't on gear but I could lift Helluva lot more than the chaps at the gym that were on it. Most of it was gained through hard work, diet and recovery. "
See, i always see a lot of blokes saying this but having trained with blokes on gear they have always consistently lifted well above anyone in the gym not on gear the hormone strength gains from things like tren and anadrol catapult them well beyond most people of comparable size bedore they even start piling on the pounds.
Whenever it comes to lifting theres always this trend of "oh i dont -insert literally any training technique, supliment or drug- ans i lift way more than those that do X".
It's pretty much always bollocks as well.
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"Train natural..Using steds is all about ego or cheating.."
Or simply shortening time scales.
Some people dont want to train for 3 years to gain a few kg of lean mass when they can do it in a year with gear and a shit tone of beutal hard work. |
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"I race in cat 3 cycle crits and in the sport of cycling the added competitive edge steroids gives is just 10 to 12 %
For the professionals that kind of gain might be worth while; for semi pros and amateurs like myself, training harder and losing more weight and improving power to weight ratio is cheaper and gives much better results then any drug.
It's all about attitude; if you train harder no matter what the weather and you remain dedicated to your goals, you will succeed!
If you need a drug, you'll end up second best; there are no easy ways or short cuts - if you need to cheat you will be bettered by someone who has a winners attitude.
Rant over.
My sentiments exactly. I've had rides where I could barely get up some big hills. What did I do? Carried on pedalling no matter how slow and came back and hit the same hill again and again until I got stronger"
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"How is taking steroids different from doping?
Doping is taking a banned substance to create an advantage in competitive sports. This may be a steroid or not.
Taking a steroid is literally that.
Technically true, but philosophically no different.
Doping is cheating in sport. In Somme cases like combat sports it's not only cheating but dangerous for honest opponents of users
Recreational steroid use only harms yourself"
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"Train natural..Using steds is all about ego or cheating..
Or simply shortening time scales.
Some people dont want to train for 3 years to gain a few kg of lean mass when they can do it in a year with gear and a shit tone of beutal hard work."
Agree, if thats what your after. Looking good.. Me personally. i train for endurance sports.. Good food lots of water. look great and feel even better.
Each to his own hey. |
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"Train natural..Using steds is all about ego or cheating..
Or simply shortening time scales.
Some people dont want to train for 3 years to gain a few kg of lean mass when they can do it in a year with gear and a shit tone of beutal hard work.
Agree, if thats what your after. Looking good.. Me personally. i train for endurance sports.. Good food lots of water. look great and feel even better.
Each to his own hey."
Yet if you speak to users they will also say good food, look good, feel amazing.
And they'll have a chemically boosted mood in most cases.
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"Train natural..Using steds is all about ego or cheating..
Or simply shortening time scales.
Some people dont want to train for 3 years to gain a few kg of lean mass when they can do it in a year with gear and a shit tone of beutal hard work.
Agree, if thats what your after. Looking good.. Me personally. i train for endurance sports.. Good food lots of water. look great and feel even better.
Each to his own hey.
Yet if you speak to users they will also say good food, look good, feel amazing.
And they'll have a chemically boosted mood in most cases.
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Am sure they do.. |
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"Train natural..Using steds is all about ego or cheating..
Or simply shortening time scales.
Some people dont want to train for 3 years to gain a few kg of lean mass when they can do it in a year with gear and a shit tone of beutal hard work.
Agree, if thats what your after. Looking good.. Me personally. i train for endurance sports.. Good food lots of water. look great and feel even better.
Each to his own hey.
Yet if you speak to users they will also say good food, look good, feel amazing.
And they'll have a chemically boosted mood in most cases.
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I know lots of women with a chemically boosted mood. Both pharmaceutically and self induced alcohol.  |
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Was running cycles of around 2 grams wk. I'm on TRT now for life 