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By *irtyGirl OP Woman
over a year ago
Edinburgh |
Apologies in advance... but I'm going to rant!
I have new neighbours upstairs. Not long after they moved in, they woke me up at 2am with their TV in the bedroom on really loud. Now I sleep like the dead so waking me up in the middle of the night is not an easy venture!
Week later, it was 4.30am. Not happy! Met the guy in the stair and I said hello, then very politely asked if he could be a little more considerate with the noise. He was very pleasant and apologised.
Phew! Sorted! Or so I thought!!
Tuesday night... about 10.50pm the TV in the living room was up so loud I couldn't hear my own TV which is about five feet away from the sofa! So I went up and knocked on the door. No answer, funny that!  So I banged on the door and out he came, again very polite, introduced himself and then said sheepishly "is the TV too loud?" Erm yes... just a tad. Once again he apologised and explained that his girlfriend is deaf and has an infection in her good ear. Well, I'm very sorry about that, but I'm not deaf, nor do I want to be.  Apparently they had subtitles on...
Tonight... I might as well be in the front row of the cinema with a blindfold on. Am I asking too much that they keep it to a dull roar?!
I'm not really one to complain but what do I do? If I don't say anything, they're just going to think that it's acceptable and carry but I don't really want to be knocking on their door every night.
I really want to go buy them some headphones!
Any suggestions? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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All you can do is report to environmental heath and your landlord/ housing association/council, I have been living with noisy upstairs neighbours for 3 months, mine is stamping of feet all night and the playing of guitar at 3 in the morning and on the odd weekend he has a full band up there rehearsing |
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My hearfelt sympathies, I know where you're coming from. Had the same problem with a woman who was on economy7 and used to put her washing on after 11 at night when it was cheaper. Her flat was above mine. Needless to see the whole block shook when it was on spin. Didn't matter that I had to get up for work the next day. Tried the civilised approach but made no difference. I ended up moving or I might have committed murder!!!  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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keep a diary off the day time and u should have a antisocial team you can report to or ring u local police and imform them see if they can have word with them ,as they can have equipment removed for this now .but must keep a diary .if its private flats they can do mediation 2 and it dis help as i had it with my lot but stopped now they new could still get put out even if private . |
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By *irtyGirl OP Woman
over a year ago
Edinburgh |
I'm loathed to go up there again. He was very polite but I don't want to be having the same conversation every night.
I know their landlords so I guess I'll ask again and then get in touch with them. I don't really want to be arsey with my neighbours but there's a limit to my patience. The fact that they have wooden floors doesn't help, there's no sound-proofing at all. |
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By *irtyGirl OP Woman
over a year ago
Edinburgh |
"Wooden/ laminate floors are the bane of flat dwellers' lives."
Correct! And when you have wooden floors and no-one above you you have absolutely no concept of just how irritating it is.
If you live in a flat, take off your shoes, don't throw the remote control off the bed onto the floor and don't have drawers on wheels under your bed!!
*takes sleeping pills and goes to bed* |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Apologies in advance... but I'm going to rant!
I have new neighbours upstairs. Not long after they moved in, they woke me up at 2am with their TV in the bedroom on really loud. Now I sleep like the dead so waking me up in the middle of the night is not an easy venture!
Week later, it was 4.30am. Not happy! Met the guy in the stair and I said hello, then very politely asked if he could be a little more considerate with the noise. He was very pleasant and apologised.
Phew! Sorted! Or so I thought!!
Tuesday night... about 10.50pm the TV in the living room was up so loud I couldn't hear my own TV which is about five feet away from the sofa! So I went up and knocked on the door. No answer, funny that! So I banged on the door and out he came, again very polite, introduced himself and then said sheepishly "is the TV too loud?" Erm yes... just a tad. Once again he apologised and explained that his girlfriend is deaf and has an infection in her good ear. Well, I'm very sorry about that, but I'm not deaf, nor do I want to be. Apparently they had subtitles on...
Tonight... I might as well be in the front row of the cinema with a blindfold on. Am I asking too much that they keep it to a dull roar?!
I'm not really one to complain but what do I do? If I don't say anything, they're just going to think that it's acceptable and carry but I don't really want to be knocking on their door every night.
I really want to go buy them some headphones!
Any suggestions?"
Wait till there all quiet and possibly in bed and turn your music on or telly as loud as kin possible.
You have done the right thing in asking and they have so far ignored your pleas.
Soooooooooo
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Wooden/ laminate floors are the bane of flat dwellers' lives.
Correct! And when you have wooden floors and no-one above you you have absolutely no concept of just how irritating it is.
If you live in a flat, take off your shoes, don't throw the remote control off the bed onto the floor and don't have drawers on wheels under your bed!!
*takes sleeping pills and goes to bed*"
You mention you know their landlord.
If it's a public sector landlord it'd be quite unusual for them (the landlord) to have given permission to lay wooden floors simply on the grounds they tend to be the cause of no end of neighbour disputes.
Private landlords seem not to worry so much because they see wooden floors as a rentable asset. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I'm loathed to go up there again. He was very polite but I don't want to be having the same conversation every night.
I know their landlords so I guess I'll ask again and then get in touch with them. I don't really want to be arsey with my neighbours but there's a limit to my patience. The fact that they have wooden floors doesn't help, there's no sound-proofing at all.
You always fight fire with fire a hammer drill a 3 in the morning a few times a week works wonders they soon get the message  "
Orrrrrrrrrrr
Get a right big bugga of a guy with muscles like popeye to go up and ask nicely.
Bet they dont ignore him |
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By *irtyGirl OP Woman
over a year ago
Edinburgh |
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You mention you know their landlord.
If it's a public sector landlord it'd be quite unusual for them (the landlord) to have given permission to lay wooden floors simply on the grounds they tend to be the cause of no end of neighbour disputes.
Private landlords seem not to worry so much because they see wooden floors as a rentable asset."
The wooden floors were down before I moved in. The girl then was pretty considerate and I never heard a peep out of her.
The current owners moved in and we had the chat about shoes. Sorted! Then they went travelling and got some mates in. I had the chat about shoes with them too. Sorted again! Then the ones after that moved in... with the drawers with wheels and the remote and the high heels! We had a chat about wooden floors. Sorted ish. It improved and was bearable.
This lot are deaf and the TV is blaring, clearly with surround sound. The whole block must be able to hear it.
I'm not going up now... I'm too grumpy. I'll wait till tomorrow when I'm calm and not likely to blow my lid and have another chat and explain very politely that I don't want to be having the same chat again. |
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By *oddyWoman
over a year ago
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get some snails and put on there bedroom window the noise they will make should wake em up whilst you can be all innocent and say oh they woke me last night climbing up |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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You mention you know their landlord.
If it's a public sector landlord it'd be quite unusual for them (the landlord) to have given permission to lay wooden floors simply on the grounds they tend to be the cause of no end of neighbour disputes.
Private landlords seem not to worry so much because they see wooden floors as a rentable asset.
The wooden floors were down before I moved in. The girl then was pretty considerate and I never heard a peep out of her.
The current owners moved in and we had the chat about shoes. Sorted! Then they went travelling and got some mates in. I had the chat about shoes with them too. Sorted again! Then the ones after that moved in... with the drawers with wheels and the remote and the high heels! We had a chat about wooden floors. Sorted ish. It improved and was bearable.
This lot are deaf and the TV is blaring, clearly with surround sound. The whole block must be able to hear it.
I'm not going up now... I'm too grumpy. I'll wait till tomorrow when I'm calm and not likely to blow my lid and have another chat and explain very politely that I don't want to be having the same chat again. "
Speak to them in the morning, explain to them that you think you have been more than fair in the past, but that there hasnt been an acceptable reduction in the noise, and as such you will be forced to report any further problems. If they continue to cause a nuisance and your a public sector tenant then speak to your Housing Officer, detailing the things you have already said and done. Keep a diary of all incidents (i know its a faff but this is necessary for your landlord to do anything about the problem). Environmental Health also have powers to remove TVs, stereos etc where the noise is persistently above acceptable levels and where the tenant has failed to keep the volume down. Your Housing Officer can liaise with them about who is best placed to take action. Do not resort to "tit for tat" as this weakens your case significantly. |
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i used to wait til i knew the ones above me werent up for work and get the hoover out and hoover the "cobwebs" from the cieling...radio on in the bedroom loud especially if they had a party the night before. bang all the doors...they soon took the hint x |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"All you can do is report to environmental heath and your landlord/ housing association/council, I have been living with noisy upstairs neighbours for 3 months, mine is stamping of feet all night and the playing of guitar at 3 in the morning and on the odd weekend he has a full band up there rehearsing"
Thats a shame as you've gone from a crap flat to a good one and its spoilt by this inconsiderate pair |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Hi Dirty,
BEST advice I could give is to totally ignore the advice of people who suggest you act in the same way. It's just provocative and immature and I don't see how becoming like your neighbour will get them to stop. That's like saying 'my husband keeps trying to shag me .....so to stop him I shag him back. Besides .....trying to annoy a deaf woman with noise is pathetic in the extreme.
Before going for help from the authorities try this.
Invite them round for a cuppa / nibbles mid evening. Make it a Saturday when non of you are up the next day.
Be straight with them. Laughingly ask them to leave their t.v. on at normal volume while they come to yours. Tell them you want their opinion on how loud it is.
If they come GREAT ! It'll be a giggle and hopefully they will ( him at least ) see how impossible it is for you to sleep.
They are as much 'victims' of flat living as you are.
Does your noise travel upwards ? Is there someone above them ?
In case they don't come. Invest in ear plugs / muffs. Record dates and times and volumes of noise. Contact your landlord and other authorities and organisations. Look at terms and conditions of their contract.... look at noise laws.
This is the order of importance as I see it.
1. Maintain freindly open channels of communication with your neighbours. Once that has gone you are on a loser for a while if not forever. You live there.
2. Get the noise stopped in a legal and dignified manner.
Good luck xx xx Nothing makes me more murderous than being woken up or being stopped going to sleep. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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P.S. If they do come and say they don't think it's loud - smile sweetly , say oh okay I find it difficult to sleep through. ~Then carry on having a good hour or so.
Then you know you have to seek help elsewhere. |
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By *irtyGirl OP Woman
over a year ago
Edinburgh |
Thanks for all your advice... I've no intention of being annoying back. I've already spoken to my downstairs neighbour in the past to check if I bug her with too much noise and she assures me she never hears me. I never hear her either.
I own my flat so there are no housing people to chat to about it but I will be inviting him down to get his opinion on it.
I finally gave up last night around midnight and went to bed. They were still up watching TV in the living room and I can't hear that from my bedroom. It's when they came to bed at half one that they woke me up... still wearing their shoes.
I'm working this afternoon so I'll get out for some fresh air and hopefully it won't be loud when I come home. If it is then I'm going to go up and politely ask him to turn the TV back up to the same volume and come down and listen. There's no way it's acceptable and I'm pretty certain he'll understand that.
I don't believe anything gets sorted by shouting the odds. Most normal people respond better to civil, calm conversations and I've not done anything wrong. He seems perfectly reasonable, I just don't think they're aware of just how loud it is.
We shall see! |
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best thing to do is move,,if you can ,,i suffered the pain of noisy neighbours and for peace and quiet, i moved ,,detached house,s are the best. it a true saying silence is golden,, good luck and hope it works out for the best,,, |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Apologies in advance... but I'm going to rant!
I have new neighbours upstairs. Not long after they moved in, they woke me up at 2am with their TV in the bedroom on really loud. Now I sleep like the dead so waking me up in the middle of the night is not an easy venture!contact your local council.... they take nosey neighbours very seriously........ happened to us few years ago, mind you my husbadn took a different approach, when we went out for the evening he turned tv up to full and left it like that when we were out, soon sorted it lol
Week later, it was 4.30am. Not happy! Met the guy in the stair and I said hello, then very politely asked if he could be a little more considerate with the noise. He was very pleasant and apologised.
Phew! Sorted! Or so I thought!!
Tuesday night... about 10.50pm the TV in the living room was up so loud I couldn't hear my own TV which is about five feet away from the sofa! So I went up and knocked on the door. No answer, funny that! So I banged on the door and out he came, again very polite, introduced himself and then said sheepishly "is the TV too loud?" Erm yes... just a tad. Once again he apologised and explained that his girlfriend is deaf and has an infection in her good ear. Well, I'm very sorry about that, but I'm not deaf, nor do I want to be. Apparently they had subtitles on...
Tonight... I might as well be in the front row of the cinema with a blindfold on. Am I asking too much that they keep it to a dull roar?!
I'm not really one to complain but what do I do? If I don't say anything, they're just going to think that it's acceptable and carry but I don't really want to be knocking on their door every night.
I really want to go buy them some headphones!
Any suggestions?"
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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happend to su.... so when we went out for the evening hubby turned out tv up to almost full and left it like that until we returned, didnt take long before they finally got the message lol |
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By *irtyGirl OP Woman
over a year ago
Edinburgh |
"best thing to do is move,,if you can ,,i suffered the pain of noisy neighbours and for peace and quiet, i moved ,,detached house,s are the best. it a true saying silence is golden,, good luck and hope it works out for the best,,,"
I'm not moving!! 
I've lived here 8 years... I love my flat! The tenants upstairs will be moving before I do, that's for sure!!! 
And leaving the TV on as loud as it gets is only going to piss off my neighbours under me! That's not going to solve anything.
All I'm asking is for a little consideration, I don't want world war three!! |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"best thing to do is move,,if you can ,,i suffered the pain of noisy neighbours and for peace and quiet, i moved ,,detached house,s are the best. it a true saying silence is golden,, good luck and hope it works out for the best,,,
I'm not moving!!
I've lived here 8 years... I love my flat! The tenants upstairs will be moving before I do, that's for sure!!!
And leaving the TV on as loud as it gets is only going to piss off my neighbours under me! That's not going to solve anything.
All I'm asking is for a little consideration, I don't want world war three!! "
I hope the civil approach works for you - but if it doesnt dont worry that you own your own flat - they dont - and as such have signed a Tenancy Agreement that will probably contain a clause in it about causing a nuisance to neighbours - go and speak to their landlord and ask them to act |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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had problems like this too - if asking them again doesn't work can I suggest writing to them, listing the times & occasions when their noise has been unreasonable, that you have asked them to keep the noise down but they haven't. Send a copy of the letter to their landlord, if the problem continues speak to your local Enviromental Health, they will tell you to keep a diary listing noise level and effect it has on you - they may provide you with a noise meter to measure level.
They can remove equipment and may prosecute them if problem continues. |
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By *eaboMan
over a year ago
marden |
as above. Keep a detailed diary, listing the dates you spoke to them, if you can't remember write approximate date in diary. Write to them, post recorded delivery -don't deliver by hand, and keep a copy, is important to write to them so they cannot deny the problem. Send a copy of the letter and diary to their landlord telling him you are sending a copy to the enviromental health office, oh send them a copy too. It may take a few weeks but it will work. Do not retaliate coz you need to be the victim of a noise problem to get it sorted. But no, why the hell should you move. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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with me being private 2 mediation got them to come down and listen to the noise they was makeing bare in mind am ground floor there is flat between us so god know what he has to listen to .
and they told them they can only have the tv at a level before 9 and it has to go down to 19 after they was made to take surround sound out 2 ,not aloud in flats or the bass has to been removed from it 2 .....gd luck i found talking mine made matter worse mediation solved it as they said wasn't aware how bad it was .gd luck |
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By *orestersCouple
over a year ago
The Forest |
I have to add my pet noise-hate to this debate. Wind chimes! We hate the bloody things. Our neighbour is a bit of an old hippy and had some in the garden. We sleep in the back bedroom and got fed up with the noise - as we explained to our neighbour, they sound lovely and tinkly in a gentle summer afternoon breeze, but at 3am in a strong wind, they sound like a load of dustbins rolling down a hill.
Luckily, she took them down when we had a polite word with her. Echoing the above, it's always best to try the diplomatic approach first. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Noise pollution can be the worst stress I`ve known .....most other events have been within my control somewhat ..or at least my reaction .....noise esp when you need sleep can chip away and erode yer inner smile ..
I`ve had noisy neighbours ...some have been open to a chat ..others have been more erm ..defensive or aggressive ....
I find that challenging to cope with maturely..my stress levels climb ...mabye even get a little obsessive about it lol....building a bonfire of resentment ....bloody selfish twats has been a mantra..
I`ve had some struggles..but experience tells me pick moments to speak calmly and voice concerns etc ...
Theres been some good advice ....some freaking awful s`well ....think the OP knows the good from the bad ...
Thankfully its taken seriously now by those who can make a difference ..
Best of luck DG..  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Ive had problems before with neighbours and tried and tried the "civil" method...the "talking" method . The "invite them round"..the "party" method..The seek help via "arbitration" method and
ZILCH....Nada...Nothing...etc
It was only when i thought sod it...
If ya cant beat them join them ..that things got better.
I did warn my other neighbours so they knew the score.
It worked.
Because before then, they had no idea how bloody noisy they had been .
Hearing me NOT bieng considerate as i am now. taught them a valuable lesson.
We all get along ok now and no problems whatso ever.
Even though they have umpteen dogs and cats and 6 kids. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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I tried the quid pro quo once .....the neighbour came round banging on my door .....few words were exchanged ...he pushed me ....he ended up in hospital fer a week or so ...I ended up in court and narrowly escaped her majesty`s pleasure .....it ain`t always helpful to react tit fer tat ...tho it feels tempting when yer at the end of yer tether ....difficult.. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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I think "noisy neighbours" have been responsible for tons of court cases, hospital visits..even murder.
It raises your stress levels up so high and then ya blow.
Especially if sleep deprived .
I wish you luck DG.
And hope you sort it. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Buy a couple of Pioneer speakers. screw them to the ceiling facing upwards.
Every time you hear there TV plug said speaks into your TV for 15 minutes full volume.
If they complain there ornaments are bouncing of there cupboards, just say well had to turn your TV up so you could hear it over theres!
Works a treat trust me 
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