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"About to start on Ch4 +1. Grayson Perry is looking at modern man, masculinity and macho-man. I enjoyed his Reith Lectures so I'm looking forward to this. I just watched it... I really admire Greyson Perry both as a man and an artist... and this is a very interesting subject, I really enjoyed it" Just at the first break and it's already interesting. I've never really thought about cage fighters before. | |||
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"Just watched it as well. Very powerful program the suicide rates of men is frightening. It's at least the same level here in Ireland. Perry creates amazing art that is thought provoking but accessible." The suicide rate in men is something that needs to be talked about more. NE England having such high rates is shocking. There was a piece on Woman's Hour yesterdat about modern masculinity - Man Up: http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b078w8rk | |||
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"I absolutely love Grayson Perry, his art is amazing, his dress sense even more so. " ooooooh,,,id disagree,,FANTASTIC ARTIST,,no question,,one of thee greatest this country has produced,,but dress sense,,NO WAY ,,fun colourful but,,yuk,,,lol oh and I,ll say it to his face | |||
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"Didn't think much of his smashed pots or drag but his speech is always interesting and provocative, and I have one of his prints - Map of an Englishman in my house. Any good?" The print? Yes, it is. | |||
"Didn't think much of his smashed pots or drag but his speech is always interesting and provocative, and I have one of his prints - Map of an Englishman in my house. Any good?" lol,,not a fan of his drag as you put it,,but he's a fabulous human being and as a fellow artist I admire him hugely | |||
"Didn't think much of his smashed pots or drag but his speech is always interesting and provocative, and I have one of his prints - Map of an Englishman in my house. Any good? The print? Yes, it is. " only if you like it | |||
"Didn't think much of his smashed pots or drag but his speech is always interesting and provocative, and I have one of his prints - Map of an Englishman in my house. Any good? The print? Yes, it is. " Smart arse | |||
"Didn't think much of his smashed pots or drag but his speech is always interesting and provocative, and I have one of his prints - Map of an Englishman in my house. Any good? lol,,not a fan of his drag as you put it,,but he's a fabulous human being and as a fellow artist I admire him hugely" I like the way he plays with ideas. he presents them in ways I would never even consider. I like that | |||
"I absolutely love Grayson Perry, his art is amazing, his dress sense even more so. ooooooh,,,id disagree,,FANTASTIC ARTIST,,no question,,one of thee greatest this country has produced,,but dress sense,,NO WAY ,,fun colourful but,,yuk,,,lol oh and I,ll say it to his face" Noo I don't agree, come on who wouldn't want the cat print smock dress with the frilly bonnet. In all seriousness I would definitely wear the dresses. | |||
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"Didn't think much of his smashed pots or drag but his speech is always interesting and provocative, and I have one of his prints - Map of an Englishman in my house. Any good? lol,,not a fan of his drag as you put it,,but he's a fabulous human being and as a fellow artist I admire him hugely I like the way he plays with ideas. he presents them in ways I would never even consider. I like that" yes,,that's why art and artists are important to society | |||
"I absolutely love Grayson Perry, his art is amazing, his dress sense even more so. ooooooh,,,id disagree,,FANTASTIC ARTIST,,no question,,one of thee greatest this country has produced,,but dress sense,,NO WAY ,,fun colourful but,,yuk,,,lol oh and I,ll say it to his face Noo I don't agree, come on who wouldn't want the cat print smock dress with the frilly bonnet. In all seriousness I would definitely wear the dresses. " your insane | |||
"Didn't think much of his smashed pots or drag but his speech is always interesting and provocative, and I have one of his prints - Map of an Englishman in my house. Any good? lol,,not a fan of his drag as you put it,,but he's a fabulous human being and as a fellow artist I admire him hugely I like the way he plays with ideas. he presents them in ways I would never even consider. I like that yes,,that's why art and artists are important to society" Even when the art is not monetised. | |||
"Didn't think much of his smashed pots or drag but his speech is always interesting and provocative, and I have one of his prints - Map of an Englishman in my house. Any good? lol,,not a fan of his drag as you put it,,but he's a fabulous human being and as a fellow artist I admire him hugely I like the way he plays with ideas. he presents them in ways I would never even consider. I like that yes,,that's why art and artists are important to society Even when the art is not monetised." Is Perry commercialised? | |||
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"Didn't think much of his smashed pots or drag but his speech is always interesting and provocative, and I have one of his prints - Map of an Englishman in my house. Any good? lol,,not a fan of his drag as you put it,,but he's a fabulous human being and as a fellow artist I admire him hugely I like the way he plays with ideas. he presents them in ways I would never even consider. I like that yes,,that's why art and artists are important to society Even when the art is not monetised. Is Perry commercialised?" He has a profile so it's inevitable at some level. I mean all art, not just those bits that sell for whatever fashionable reason. | |||
"Didn't think much of his smashed pots or drag but his speech is always interesting and provocative, and I have one of his prints - Map of an Englishman in my house. Any good? lol,,not a fan of his drag as you put it,,but he's a fabulous human being and as a fellow artist I admire him hugely I like the way he plays with ideas. he presents them in ways I would never even consider. I like that yes,,that's why art and artists are important to society Even when the art is not monetised. Is Perry commercialised?" he makes money ,,just like a plumber,bus driver,doctor,,,bla bla bla | |||
"I absolutely love Grayson Perry, his art is amazing, his dress sense even more so. ooooooh,,,id disagree,,FANTASTIC ARTIST,,no question,,one of thee greatest this country has produced,,but dress sense,,NO WAY ,,fun colourful but,,yuk,,,lol oh and I,ll say it to his face" he looked quite tasteful when he collected his CBE | |||
"Didn't think much of his smashed pots or drag but his speech is always interesting and provocative, and I have one of his prints - Map of an Englishman in my house. Any good? lol,,not a fan of his drag as you put it,,but he's a fabulous human being and as a fellow artist I admire him hugely I like the way he plays with ideas. he presents them in ways I would never even consider. I like that yes,,that's why art and artists are important to society Even when the art is not monetised. Is Perry commercialised? He has a profile so it's inevitable at some level. I mean all art, not just those bits that sell for whatever fashionable reason. " Well that's the trick you usually have to be dead before you can make money at art. All artists lose control of their work in the end. If Perry can make money and do something else with it, then fine. | |||
"Didn't think much of his smashed pots or drag but his speech is always interesting and provocative, and I have one of his prints - Map of an Englishman in my house. Any good? lol,,not a fan of his drag as you put it,,but he's a fabulous human being and as a fellow artist I admire him hugely I like the way he plays with ideas. he presents them in ways I would never even consider. I like that yes,,that's why art and artists are important to society Even when the art is not monetised. Is Perry commercialised? He has a profile so it's inevitable at some level. I mean all art, not just those bits that sell for whatever fashionable reason. Well that's the trick you usually have to be dead before you can make money at art. All artists lose control of their work in the end. If Perry can make money and do something else with it, then fine. " RUBBISH,,out of date silly idea of artists,,i make a very good living from art,,im not even a famous one and I still have both ears | |||
"Just watched it as well. Very powerful program the suicide rates of men is frightening. It's at least the same level here in Ireland. Perry creates amazing art that is thought provoking but accessible." I think the male suicide rates in the Republic and Northern Ireland have risen 50% over a 10 year period - it's alarmingly sad. | |||
"Didn't think much of his smashed pots or drag but his speech is always interesting and provocative, and I have one of his prints - Map of an Englishman in my house. Any good? lol,,not a fan of his drag as you put it,,but he's a fabulous human being and as a fellow artist I admire him hugely I like the way he plays with ideas. he presents them in ways I would never even consider. I like that yes,,that's why art and artists are important to society Even when the art is not monetised. Is Perry commercialised? He has a profile so it's inevitable at some level. I mean all art, not just those bits that sell for whatever fashionable reason. Well that's the trick you usually have to be dead before you can make money at art. All artists lose control of their work in the end. If Perry can make money and do something else with it, then fine. RUBBISH,,out of date silly idea of artists,,i make a very good living from art,,im not even a famous one and I still have both ears" oh n I know plenty artists that make a very good living from their work. its funny though as I know artists way more talented in my humbler opinion that don't,,but its a myth artists don't make money | |||
"Didn't think much of his smashed pots or drag but his speech is always interesting and provocative, and I have one of his prints - Map of an Englishman in my house. Any good? lol,,not a fan of his drag as you put it,,but he's a fabulous human being and as a fellow artist I admire him hugely I like the way he plays with ideas. he presents them in ways I would never even consider. I like that yes,,that's why art and artists are important to society Even when the art is not monetised. Is Perry commercialised? He has a profile so it's inevitable at some level. I mean all art, not just those bits that sell for whatever fashionable reason. Well that's the trick you usually have to be dead before you can make money at art. All artists lose control of their work in the end. If Perry can make money and do something else with it, then fine. RUBBISH,,out of date silly idea of artists,,i make a very good living from art,,im not even a famous one and I still have both ears oh n I know plenty artists that make a very good living from their work. its funny though as I know artists way more talented in my humbler opinion that don't,,but its a myth artists don't make money" I'm interested to know how | |||
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"It's an obvious, if slightly uncomfortable, area of expertise" Uncomfortable? I'm not being particularly eloquent tonight, as I'm struggling with fatigue. | |||
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"The second in the series is just starting " | |||
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"I'll be there on +1." It's time Lickety on +1 | |||
"I'll be there on +1. It's time Lickety on +1 " Thank you. I've just switched over. | |||
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"Didn't think much of his smashed pots or drag but his speech is always interesting and provocative, and I have one of his prints - Map of an Englishman in my house. Any good? lol,,not a fan of his drag as you put it,,but he's a fabulous human being and as a fellow artist I admire him hugely I like the way he plays with ideas. he presents them in ways I would never even consider. I like that yes,,that's why art and artists are important to society Even when the art is not monetised. " Most artists lose money on their art. I have a house full and only sell a small number. Then again painting for money ruins creativity unless you are excellent and have a reputation. I'm Lucky to get some commissions on work i have alReady started Not paint what other people want. | |||
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"About to start on Ch4 +1. Grayson Perry is looking at modern man, masculinity and macho-man. I enjoyed his Reith Lectures so I'm looking forward to this. " I've got it series linked, going to watch them all at once if I can. I like him. Very clever man. | |||
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"Lovely Grayson, where is he in line of succession to the throne incidentally? " Can we make him PM instead? | |||
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"Proper thoughtful and thought-provoking art. I'm looking forward to the conclusion next week. " All art is thought provoking. If you embrace this doctrine, proper art proliferates exponentially. | |||
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"Just watched the banker one. I think he went in with a prejudice and saw what he wanted to see. I liked the picture but that's because I share some of his prejudice! As an artist he let himself down on objectivity. " Unusually, I agree with you... in part. I think they gave him a fair bit to reinforce the prejudice, but he did go with a pre-formed idea of what he would produce. | |||
"Just watched the banker one. I think he went in with a prejudice and saw what he wanted to see. I liked the picture but that's because I share some of his prejudice! As an artist he let himself down on objectivity. Unusually, I agree with you... in part. I think they gave him a fair bit to reinforce the prejudice, but he did go with a pre-formed idea of what he would produce." I have my moments... I would have been more interested in a piece about the alpha male being calm, unemotional and regimented (geek) as opposed to shouting and yelling in some pit (ape) that we saw at the start. He kept saying how high rise buildings are cock shaped - how the fuck else are you supposed to build them? Dig a tunnel in the ground just so it looks like a pussy!?! | |||
"Just watched the banker one. I think he went in with a prejudice and saw what he wanted to see. I liked the picture but that's because I share some of his prejudice! As an artist he let himself down on objectivity. Unusually, I agree with you... in part. I think they gave him a fair bit to reinforce the prejudice, but he did go with a pre-formed idea of what he would produce. I have my moments... I would have been more interested in a piece about the alpha male being calm, unemotional and regimented (geek) as opposed to shouting and yelling in some pit (ape) that we saw at the start. He kept saying how high rise buildings are cock shaped - how the fuck else are you supposed to build them? Dig a tunnel in the ground just so it looks like a pussy!?!" I think it was the thrusting nature of lets build bigger/we need to be in the tallest building as much as the phallic nature of high rise buildings. Cocks are everywhere. | |||
"Just watched the banker one. I think he went in with a prejudice and saw what he wanted to see. I liked the picture but that's because I share some of his prejudice! As an artist he let himself down on objectivity. Unusually, I agree with you... in part. I think they gave him a fair bit to reinforce the prejudice, but he did go with a pre-formed idea of what he would produce. I have my moments... I would have been more interested in a piece about the alpha male being calm, unemotional and regimented (geek) as opposed to shouting and yelling in some pit (ape) that we saw at the start. He kept saying how high rise buildings are cock shaped - how the fuck else are you supposed to build them? Dig a tunnel in the ground just so it looks like a pussy!?! I think it was the thrusting nature of lets build bigger/we need to be in the tallest building as much as the phallic nature of high rise buildings. Cocks are everywhere. " Could be, I hadn't honestly thought of that angle. But I'd just see it as trying to cram as many offices onto as little land as possible, which makes sense for labour intensive work. | |||