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over a year ago
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"This should be fun  "
Hmmm a democrat with at least some lingering liberal sentiments in spite of her corporate-courting, who has the major advantage of being the first female president....
Or an utter whackjob who will create a world war within weeks.
I know where my cross would go  |
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To be president you need 270 electoral votes
The safe democrat states that have voted democrat every election for the last 20 years whoever was the candidate add up to 242
Florida has 29 votes and a large Hispanic population, whom Trump has denounced on many occasions, I'd say he's got his work cut out! |
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"This should be fun
Hmmm a democrat with at least some lingering liberal sentiments in spite of her corporate-courting, who has the major advantage of being the first female president....
Or an utter whackjob who will create a world war within weeks.
I know where my cross would go "
Another champagne socialist who has the proud title of being the most unsuccessful secretary of state ever and married to the guy who signed into law the financial services modernization act (which did more to create the 2008 financial crisis than any bank did).
Her vrs a complete idiot. Is there a "reopen nominations" box? |
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Even if Trump gets in; I think he will be neutered quite quickly; and be a lame duck president from the outset;
The US president actually has quite limited powers without a consensus ; Trump is a " Washington outsider" so won't actually have many freinds in the Senste or the House of Representatives from either side; and the government officials will actually also restrict him; i.e. Do a US version of " Yes Minister's" Sir Humphrey on him .
It will still be dodgy, but I think the US will " manage" him . |
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"Prime Minister Boris and Presidente Trump. Be afraid be very afraid. 
Boris is going to be finished after we vote to stay "
Not necessarily... That's the whole point - Bojo doesn't believe in Brexit, he's simply setting himself up in opposition to Obbo |
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"Prime Minister Boris and Presidente Trump. Be afraid be very afraid.
Boris is going to be finished after we vote to stay "
Only if it's a landslide "in" vote.
If it's marginal; he will be the next PM.
Don't forget; Boris is actually an In supporter; he is only backing Out, because he knows it enhances his chances of becoming Tory Leader ( whichever way the vote goes) |
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"This should be fun
Hmmm a democrat with at least some lingering liberal sentiments in spite of her corporate-courting, who has the major advantage of being the first female president....
Or an utter whackjob who will create a world war within weeks.
I know where my cross would go
Another champagne socialist who has the proud title of being the most unsuccessful secretary of state ever and married to the guy who signed into law the financial services modernization act (which did more to create the 2008 financial crisis than any bank did).
Her vrs a complete idiot. Is there a "reopen nominations" box? "
I think Americans consider our Conservative politicians to be somewhat socialist?
Bernie Sanders is about the closest they've got to a proper one.
You wait. If - and it's a big if - if Corbyn is still Labour leader at the next election, I wonder if Americans will view him with the same level of bemusement and fear that most regard Trump.
Other end of the telescope, so to speak |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I'm not sure how the world can take a president seriously who shaved Vince McMahons hair bald in a wrestling ring then received a stone cold stunner from Steve Austin.
https://youtu.be/MMKFIHRpe7I |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"This should be fun
Hmmm a democrat with at least some lingering liberal sentiments in spite of her corporate-courting, who has the major advantage of being the first female president....
Or an utter whackjob who will create a world war within weeks.
I know where my cross would go
Another champagne socialist who has the proud title of being the most unsuccessful secretary of state ever and married to the guy who signed into law the financial services modernization act (which did more to create the 2008 financial crisis than any bank did).
Her vrs a complete idiot. Is there a "reopen nominations" box?
I think Americans consider our Conservative politicians to be somewhat socialist?
Bernie Sanders is about the closest they've got to a proper one.
You wait. If - and it's a big if - if Corbyn is still Labour leader at the next election, I wonder if Americans will view him with the same level of bemusement and fear that most regard Trump.
Other end of the telescope, so to speak "
But the difference is that British isn't a particularly powerful country in the grand scheme of things. I doubt more than 50% of americans could name our current Prime minister. America is a key country in international politics, along with Russia, China and the OPEC countries. Fortunately, as others have mentioned, it's President isn't necessarily all that powerful so swings and roundabouts. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I'm not sure how the world can take a president seriously who shaved Vince McMahons hair bald in a wrestling ring then received a stone cold stunner from Steve Austin.
https://youtu.be/MMKFIHRpe7I"
If only he sold the stunner like the rock |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I'm not sure how the world can take a president seriously who shaved Vince McMahons hair bald in a wrestling ring then received a stone cold stunner from Steve Austin.
https://youtu.be/MMKFIHRpe7I"
Are you kidding?
That's like his greatest achievement! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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It's a strange feeling to breathe a sigh of relief to see the horrible Cruz gone, and then consider what he's left behind.
Whereas I agree that Trump will be stifled to some extent by the establishment, the ugly forces which have characterised by his terrifying campaign are not going away - either in America or elsewhere  |
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
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a few things....
1) cleveland is so going to burn in july... (site of the Republican National Convention)
2) the electorial map is going to be interesting.... he is talking about creating a new map with a path the victory.... he is going to need one.... for example if he is going struggle in and lose Utah (which would be like the tories winning in glasgow)
3) it will be interesting to see how much backtracking trump will have to do... because i don't see women voting for him, or minority black and latino voters,
there is a super pac ad at the moment which is just women saying all the nasty things trump as said about them over time....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKmhK8G--7c
just play that ad for the next couple of months!!!!
trump won't win in places he should... i.e Utah, Tennessee, Kentucky, West Virginia..... or places he would need to i.e Florida, Colorado, Arizona, North Carolina, Virginia
4) it will be interesting to see how many republicans DONT endorse trump, because being tied to him is going to affect their chances..... you can basically kiss goodbye to the republicans taking over the senate... and i think the house majority may be in trouble...
5) this move will alienate a whole bunch of republican voters.... way more than hillary will on democratic side....
i can see a whole lot of republicans, rather than holding their noses and voting for hillary just "staying home" which will affect house/senate races....
5) this one move galvanises the democratic party..... in the autumn, if hillary plays it right... she can basically have 2 clinton's, 2 obama's (michelle is a fantastic speaker) Biden, and Sanders and Warren all basically hitting Trump from all angles......
i think its interesting who the VP's are going to be on the ticket...
I think trump chooses Chris Christie, I don't he has much option....
Who hillary chooses is going to be more interesting.... it won't be sanders,
if this had been 2012 it so would have been gabby giffords... but with the attempted assasination it would be too much now
if its elizabeth warren, that would be the progressives jackpot!!! but they don't apparently like each other much
so working on down.... Deval Patrick, former gov of mass, or Cory Booker former mayor of newark would keep all the obama people on board big time!!!
if you are look at someone conventional... Tim kahne, former gov of virginia
if you want someone fresh and radical and out of progressive left field, Tulsi gabbard, sen from hawaii would do that!! and she has only just turned 35!!!
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"This should be fun
Hmmm a democrat with at least some lingering liberal sentiments in spite of her corporate-courting, who has the major advantage of being the first female president....
Or an utter whackjob who will create a world war within weeks.
I know where my cross would go
Another champagne socialist who has the proud title of being the most unsuccessful secretary of state ever and married to the guy who signed into law the financial services modernization act (which did more to create the 2008 financial crisis than any bank did).
Her vrs a complete idiot. Is there a "reopen nominations" box?
I think Americans consider our Conservative politicians to be somewhat socialist?
Bernie Sanders is about the closest they've got to a proper one.
You wait. If - and it's a big if - if Corbyn is still Labour leader at the next election, I wonder if Americans will view him with the same level of bemusement and fear that most regard Trump.
Other end of the telescope, so to speak
But the difference is that British isn't a particularly powerful country in the grand scheme of things. I doubt more than 50% of americans could name our current Prime minister. America is a key country in international politics, along with Russia, China and the OPEC countries. Fortunately, as others have mentioned, it's President isn't necessarily all that powerful so swings and roundabouts. "
That's because Cameron is, as Obama correctly noted some years ago, a lightweight
Blair, on the other hand, had quite high recognition, even amongst hicks.
No, the concern is that Trump may be boxed in on the domestic sphere but has free rein in foreign policy.
Of course, he may turn out to be a bit like Reagan - a nut job on the campaign trail but reasonable in office.
*If* he is elected |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"This should be fun
Hmmm a democrat with at least some lingering liberal sentiments in spite of her corporate-courting, who has the major advantage of being the first female president....
Or an utter whackjob who will create a world war within weeks.
I know where my cross would go
Another champagne socialist who has the proud title of being the most unsuccessful secretary of state ever and married to the guy who signed into law the financial services modernization act (which did more to create the 2008 financial crisis than any bank did).
Her vrs a complete idiot. Is there a "reopen nominations" box?
I think Americans consider our Conservative politicians to be somewhat socialist?
Bernie Sanders is about the closest they've got to a proper one.
You wait. If - and it's a big if - if Corbyn is still Labour leader at the next election, I wonder if Americans will view him with the same level of bemusement and fear that most regard Trump.
Other end of the telescope, so to speak
But the difference is that British isn't a particularly powerful country in the grand scheme of things. I doubt more than 50% of americans could name our current Prime minister. America is a key country in international politics, along with Russia, China and the OPEC countries. Fortunately, as others have mentioned, it's President isn't necessarily all that powerful so swings and roundabouts.
That's because Cameron is, as Obama correctly noted some years ago, a lightweight
Blair, on the other hand, had quite high recognition, even amongst hicks.
No, the concern is that Trump may be boxed in on the domestic sphere but has free rein in foreign policy.
Of course, he may turn out to be a bit like Reagan - a nut job on the campaign trail but reasonable in office.
*If* he is elected "
Ha ha Obama calling Cameron a lightweight! Pot and Kettle from Mr "Yes we could have" |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Another correct prediction from South Park: the election will be fought between a giant douche and a turd sandwich. https://youtu.be/bVwh8PW6r88"
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Wait a minute... They can't always be right can they?.
Only I saw an episode where they dressed somebody as a bear |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Another correct prediction from South Park: the election will be fought between a giant douche and a turd sandwich. https://youtu.be/bVwh8PW6r88.
Wait a minute... They can't always be right can they?.
Only I saw an episode where they dressed somebody as a bear"
They tend to get most things right |
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By (user no longer on site)
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The Republican party. ..With a lot of help from fox news, silenced the best candidate for presidency in the last 30 yrs...Republican and Democrat....ron Paul. ....I heard trumph on this morning talking about America retaking its rightful place as the worlds policeman. ..and that they would demand respect from everyone. ...ffs...bring back Sarah Palin. ..she was relatively sane compared to this wingnut... |
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By *oo hotCouple
over a year ago
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"And they said on here old Donald wouldn't do it. (Comical Ali)
Strap in for a bumpy ride it's going to get messy. "
He hasn't done it yet. He has to be formally nominated at the GOP convention in Cleveland in July. This could well be a watershed moment for the Republicans as they absolutely don't want Trump, but the backlash from the army of Trump supporters if he is not formally nominated could be very damaging (literally). |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Who cares about the politics... The show will be spectacular.
The two dirtiest fuckers in America digging dirt on each other oh roll on summer  "
Clinton is going to win, it's inevitable.
It's just going to annoy me so much when all the people that know nothing about her start smugly saying "well it's great to have a woman president". Yes it is, if you want sexism to triumph over merit. |
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
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Clinton is going to win, it's inevitable.
It's just going to annoy me so much when all the people that know nothing about her start smugly saying "well it's great to have a woman president". Yes it is, if you want sexism to triumph over merit. "
hillary is likely to win..... but hillary has a problem....
next states up on the dem side.... west virginia and kentucky are likely sanders wins.... then onto oregon, where sanders will crush clinton.....
which then lead into the final super tuesday... california, new jersey, montana, new mexico, north dakota and south dakota
sanders will win 4 of those, (the dakota's, montana, and new mexico) will run her close in new jersey.... and if he nabs california... wow..
she wants to pivot towards trump, but if she doesn't spend any tv money....she is going to have an issue... |
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Sanders wins are all narrow though, and in states that apportion delegates proportionally that's no good
Where Hilary wins in places like New York and Caifornia (she's well ahead in their polls there) she tends to win comfortably and they've got lots of delegates
Sanders will drag it out but the maths are worse for him than they were for Cruz |
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
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"Sanders wins are all narrow though, and in states that apportion delegates proportionally that's no good
Where Hilary wins in places like New York and Caifornia (she's well ahead in their polls there) she tends to win comfortably and they've got lots of delegates
Sanders will drag it out but the maths are worse for him than they were for Cruz"
just a quick point of correction.... on the democratic side all states are dealt with on a proportional basis...
the reason for the lead is a) sanders got crushed in the south.... and b) the super delegates have basically all come down on the side of clinton
i think the once thing we have seen is that sanders always starts way behind, but in the states where he actively campaigns, he does really well..... the moment of the 4 big wins in a row (if he does it) coming into california especially if oregon is as i expect somewhere close to 70-30 sanders....
i can see for example where NoCal... (San Fran, Oakland ect) will be strong sanders.... and SoCal (LA, San Diego) will be strong Clinton areas..... |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Clinton is going to win, it's inevitable.
It's just going to annoy me so much when all the people that know nothing about her start smugly saying "well it's great to have a woman president". Yes it is, if you want sexism to triumph over merit.
hillary is likely to win..... but hillary has a problem....
next states up on the dem side.... west virginia and kentucky are likely sanders wins.... then onto oregon, where sanders will crush clinton.....
which then lead into the final super tuesday... california, new jersey, montana, new mexico, north dakota and south dakota
sanders will win 4 of those, (the dakota's, montana, and new mexico) will run her close in new jersey.... and if he nabs california... wow..
she wants to pivot towards trump, but if she doesn't spend any tv money....she is going to have an issue..."
It's ironic that as things stand, the democrats will have a candidate that is more in the pocket of "Big greedy corporations" than republicans.
Honestly I couldn't have picked two worse candidates from the original line up. This is like a choice between Dianne Abbot or Jeremy Hunt |
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There's nothing to stop Bernie Sanders running as independent like Ross Perot did years ago he isn't affiliated to Democratic Party just now and is one of only 2 senators in US just now like this it's not inconceivable that he would throw his hat in or the threat of it would have Hilary scrambling to have him by her side |
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"Sanders wins are all narrow though, and in states that apportion delegates proportionally that's no good
Where Hilary wins in places like New York and Caifornia (she's well ahead in their polls there) she tends to win comfortably and they've got lots of delegates
Sanders will drag it out but the maths are worse for him than they were for Cruz"
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For sanders it was always about raising awareness in corruption in politics. Ie big money.
He'll "drag it" as long as he's got a platform.... But let's not forget Clinton dragged it out all the way to California against Obama with very little chance of winning.
I suspect Hillary will struggle more than people think, she's got terrible approval ratings, she's actually disliked massively by alot of democrats and absolutely hated by Republicans.
And unlike sanders trump will dig up plenty of shit on her... Her biggest problem politically is her hawkishness with war!, we've yet to hear the redacted 28 pages of the 911 commission but the governor who has seen them has been pretty honest about its implications and then there's the ongoing FBI email investigation...
I certainly don't think she'll be in for a easy stroll |
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"Sanders wins are all narrow though, and in states that apportion delegates proportionally that's no good
Where Hilary wins in places like New York and Caifornia (she's well ahead in their polls there) she tends to win comfortably and they've got lots of delegates
Sanders will drag it out but the maths are worse for him than they were for Cruz.
For sanders it was always about raising awareness in corruption in politics. Ie big money.
He'll "drag it" as long as he's got a platform.... But let's not forget Clinton dragged it out all the way to California against Obama with very little chance of winning.
I suspect Hillary will struggle more than people think, she's got terrible approval ratings, she's actually disliked massively by alot of democrats and absolutely hated by Republicans.
And unlike sanders trump will dig up plenty of shit on her... Her biggest problem politically is her hawkishness with war!, we've yet to hear the redacted 28 pages of the 911 commission but the governor who has seen them has been pretty honest about its implications and then there's the ongoing FBI email investigation...
I certainly don't think she'll be in for a easy stroll"
But look at her competition... even a turd sandwich can beat a giant douche |
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"As I predicted "
I did say right at the start of all this on one of the first presidential election threads that Trump would wipe the floor with Sanders. Usual suspects on here thought it was all a big joke. He who laughs last though. |
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
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"There's nothing to stop Bernie Sanders running as independent like Ross Perot did years ago he isn't affiliated to Democratic Party just now and is one of only 2 senators in US just now like this it's not inconceivable that he would throw his hat in or the threat of it would have Hilary scrambling to have him by her side "
not a chance.... you'd just end up splitting the democratic party vote and hand the keys to the whitehouse to Trump.....
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Sanders knows he can't win but wants to influence Hilary's policies to include some of his priorities, and to be fair I think he has and will succeed in that regard
Barring Hilary self destructing though I can't see a path for trump to get the 270 votes to be president - I just don't see how he can turn any of the safe democratic states and I can't see how he can win Florida either |
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"Sanders wins are all narrow though, and in states that apportion delegates proportionally that's no good
Where Hilary wins in places like New York and Caifornia (she's well ahead in their polls there) she tends to win comfortably and they've got lots of delegates
Sanders will drag it out but the maths are worse for him than they were for Cruz.
For sanders it was always about raising awareness in corruption in politics. Ie big money.
He'll "drag it" as long as he's got a platform.... But let's not forget Clinton dragged it out all the way to California against Obama with very little chance of winning.
I suspect Hillary will struggle more than people think, she's got terrible approval ratings, she's actually disliked massively by alot of democrats and absolutely hated by Republicans.
And unlike sanders trump will dig up plenty of shit on her... Her biggest problem politically is her hawkishness with war!, we've yet to hear the redacted 28 pages of the 911 commission but the governor who has seen them has been pretty honest about its implications and then there's the ongoing FBI email investigation...
I certainly don't think she'll be in for a easy stroll
But look at her competition... even a turd sandwich can beat a giant douche "
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She couldn't beat an unknown black guy with a Muslim middle name!.
She's only just scrapped through agaist a socialist?.
The woman is not as electable as we might think over here |
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"Sanders knows he can't win but wants to influence Hilary's policies to include some of his priorities, and to be fair I think he has and will succeed in that regard
Barring Hilary self destructing though I can't see a path for trump to get the 270 votes to be president - I just don't see how he can turn any of the safe democratic states and I can't see how he can win Florida either "
There is a lot of anti establishment feeling floating around in America. Clinton is the establishment, and Trump will capitalise on that. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"There's nothing to stop Bernie Sanders running as independent like Ross Perot did years ago he isn't affiliated to Democratic Party just now and is one of only 2 senators in US just now like this it's not inconceivable that he would throw his hat in or the threat of it would have Hilary scrambling to have him by her side
not a chance.... you'd just end up splitting the democratic party vote and hand the keys to the whitehouse to Trump.....
I don't think it's an option either but is a threat that can be used to change some of Hilary's policy's but with Bernie I wouldn't rule out him counting on a Corbyn sequel change at grass roots level with the disen franchised of America who don't normally vote if they think there can be real change
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"Sanders wins are all narrow though, and in states that apportion delegates proportionally that's no good
Where Hilary wins in places like New York and Caifornia (she's well ahead in their polls there) she tends to win comfortably and they've got lots of delegates
Sanders will drag it out but the maths are worse for him than they were for Cruz.
For sanders it was always about raising awareness in corruption in politics. Ie big money.
He'll "drag it" as long as he's got a platform.... But let's not forget Clinton dragged it out all the way to California against Obama with very little chance of winning.
I suspect Hillary will struggle more than people think, she's got terrible approval ratings, she's actually disliked massively by alot of democrats and absolutely hated by Republicans.
And unlike sanders trump will dig up plenty of shit on her... Her biggest problem politically is her hawkishness with war!, we've yet to hear the redacted 28 pages of the 911 commission but the governor who has seen them has been pretty honest about its implications and then there's the ongoing FBI email investigation...
I certainly don't think she'll be in for a easy stroll
But look at her competition... even a turd sandwich can beat a giant douche .
She couldn't beat an unknown black guy with a Muslim middle name!.
She's only just scrapped through agaist a socialist?.
The woman is not as electable as we might think over here"
You're ignoring the fact that the unknown black guy was handsome as fuck, had Tony Blair's ability to make you believe the future won't be like the past and was back by an awesome campaign team who never once let him be pictured with those dirty cigarettes in his mouth.
When you put Obama next to Clinton or Trump he looks like fucking Roosevelt had a baby with Tony Blair (i.e electable) |
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
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"Sanders knows he can't win but wants to influence Hilary's policies to include some of his priorities, and to be fair I think he has and will succeed in that regard
Barring Hilary self destructing though I can't see a path for trump to get the 270 votes to be president - I just don't see how he can turn any of the safe democratic states and I can't see how he can win Florida either "
it "could" be done..... but basically the only way you could do it would be sacrifice the latino vote in florida, colorado, arizona , nevada, new nexico, ect ... for the white vote in the midwest.. pennsylvania, ohio, michigan, wisconsin, iowa and new hampshire...
but i think he has greater issues.... Florida, North Carolina, Virginia, Indiana, Missouri,... trump winning could even put the likes of Georgia and Utah in play.. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Sanders wins are all narrow though, and in states that apportion delegates proportionally that's no good
Where Hilary wins in places like New York and Caifornia (she's well ahead in their polls there) she tends to win comfortably and they've got lots of delegates
Sanders will drag it out but the maths are worse for him than they were for Cruz.
For sanders it was always about raising awareness in corruption in politics. Ie big money.
He'll "drag it" as long as he's got a platform.... But let's not forget Clinton dragged it out all the way to California against Obama with very little chance of winning.
I suspect Hillary will struggle more than people think, she's got terrible approval ratings, she's actually disliked massively by alot of democrats and absolutely hated by Republicans.
And unlike sanders trump will dig up plenty of shit on her... Her biggest problem politically is her hawkishness with war!, we've yet to hear the redacted 28 pages of the 911 commission but the governor who has seen them has been pretty honest about its implications and then there's the ongoing FBI email investigation...
I certainly don't think she'll be in for a easy stroll
But look at her competition... even a turd sandwich can beat a giant douche .
She couldn't beat an unknown black guy with a Muslim middle name!.
She's only just scrapped through agaist a socialist?.
The woman is not as electable as we might think over here
You're ignoring the fact that the unknown black guy was handsome as fuck, had Tony Blair's ability to make you believe the future won't be like the past and was back by an awesome campaign team who never once let him be pictured with those dirty cigarettes in his mouth.
When you put Obama next to Clinton or Trump he looks like fucking Roosevelt had a baby with Tony Blair (i.e electable) "
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That's easy to say now 8 years later??.
It's not like America has never had a handsome black politican before is it or charismatic ones!.
He beat Hillary fairly and squarely on one promise... Change!
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I could be wrong but I really don't think she'll stroll it
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"Sanders wins are all narrow though, and in states that apportion delegates proportionally that's no good
Where Hilary wins in places like New York and Caifornia (she's well ahead in their polls there) she tends to win comfortably and they've got lots of delegates
Sanders will drag it out but the maths are worse for him than they were for Cruz.
For sanders it was always about raising awareness in corruption in politics. Ie big money.
He'll "drag it" as long as he's got a platform.... But let's not forget Clinton dragged it out all the way to California against Obama with very little chance of winning.
I suspect Hillary will struggle more than people think, she's got terrible approval ratings, she's actually disliked massively by alot of democrats and absolutely hated by Republicans.
And unlike sanders trump will dig up plenty of shit on her... Her biggest problem politically is her hawkishness with war!, we've yet to hear the redacted 28 pages of the 911 commission but the governor who has seen them has been pretty honest about its implications and then there's the ongoing FBI email investigation...
I certainly don't think she'll be in for a easy stroll
But look at her competition... even a turd sandwich can beat a giant douche .
She couldn't beat an unknown black guy with a Muslim middle name!.
She's only just scrapped through agaist a socialist?.
The woman is not as electable as we might think over here
You're ignoring the fact that the unknown black guy was handsome as fuck, had Tony Blair's ability to make you believe the future won't be like the past and was back by an awesome campaign team who never once let him be pictured with those dirty cigarettes in his mouth.
When you put Obama next to Clinton or Trump he looks like fucking Roosevelt had a baby with Tony Blair (i.e electable) .
That's easy to say now 8 years later??.
It's not like America has never had a handsome black politican before is it or charismatic ones!.
He beat Hillary fairly and squarely on one promise... Change!
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I could be wrong but I really don't think she'll stroll it
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
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She won't stroll it but there's no stopping half minded voters who will fall for the gender card. "
women are more likely to vote in an election then men.....
so this comes along....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2gdTrh95jU
if that is a republican "anti trump" ad played during the primaries.... imagine what the democrats will come up with.... 
this is why its going to be a bloodbath, because in presidental debates the rules have always been no noise in the background.... so when his answers aren't going to have a soundtrack of "whooping and hollering" behind it.... they are going to be looked at very differently... |
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"Sanders wins are all narrow though, and in states that apportion delegates proportionally that's no good
Where Hilary wins in places like New York and Caifornia (she's well ahead in their polls there) she tends to win comfortably and they've got lots of delegates
Sanders will drag it out but the maths are worse for him than they were for Cruz.
For sanders it was always about raising awareness in corruption in politics. Ie big money.
He'll "drag it" as long as he's got a platform.... But let's not forget Clinton dragged it out all the way to California against Obama with very little chance of winning.
I suspect Hillary will struggle more than people think, she's got terrible approval ratings, she's actually disliked massively by alot of democrats and absolutely hated by Republicans.
And unlike sanders trump will dig up plenty of shit on her... Her biggest problem politically is her hawkishness with war!, we've yet to hear the redacted 28 pages of the 911 commission but the governor who has seen them has been pretty honest about its implications and then there's the ongoing FBI email investigation...
I certainly don't think she'll be in for a easy stroll
But look at her competition... even a turd sandwich can beat a giant douche .
She couldn't beat an unknown black guy with a Muslim middle name!.
She's only just scrapped through agaist a socialist?.
The woman is not as electable as we might think over here
You're ignoring the fact that the unknown black guy was handsome as fuck, had Tony Blair's ability to make you believe the future won't be like the past and was back by an awesome campaign team who never once let him be pictured with those dirty cigarettes in his mouth.
When you put Obama next to Clinton or Trump he looks like fucking Roosevelt had a baby with Tony Blair (i.e electable) .
That's easy to say now 8 years later??.
It's not like America has never had a handsome black politican before is it or charismatic ones!.
He beat Hillary fairly and squarely on one promise... Change!
.
I could be wrong but I really don't think she'll stroll it
She won't stroll it but there's no stopping half minded voters who will fall for the gender card. "
Or the let's not vote for a lunatic card? |
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"Sanders wins are all narrow though, and in states that apportion delegates proportionally that's no good
Where Hilary wins in places like New York and Caifornia (she's well ahead in their polls there) she tends to win comfortably and they've got lots of delegates
Sanders will drag it out but the maths are worse for him than they were for Cruz.
For sanders it was always about raising awareness in corruption in politics. Ie big money.
He'll "drag it" as long as he's got a platform.... But let's not forget Clinton dragged it out all the way to California against Obama with very little chance of winning.
I suspect Hillary will struggle more than people think, she's got terrible approval ratings, she's actually disliked massively by alot of democrats and absolutely hated by Republicans.
And unlike sanders trump will dig up plenty of shit on her... Her biggest problem politically is her hawkishness with war!, we've yet to hear the redacted 28 pages of the 911 commission but the governor who has seen them has been pretty honest about its implications and then there's the ongoing FBI email investigation...
I certainly don't think she'll be in for a easy stroll
But look at her competition... even a turd sandwich can beat a giant douche .
She couldn't beat an unknown black guy with a Muslim middle name!.
She's only just scrapped through agaist a socialist?.
The woman is not as electable as we might think over here
You're ignoring the fact that the unknown black guy was handsome as fuck, had Tony Blair's ability to make you believe the future won't be like the past and was back by an awesome campaign team who never once let him be pictured with those dirty cigarettes in his mouth.
When you put Obama next to Clinton or Trump he looks like fucking Roosevelt had a baby with Tony Blair (i.e electable) .
That's easy to say now 8 years later??.
It's not like America has never had a handsome black politican before is it or charismatic ones!.
He beat Hillary fairly and squarely on one promise... Change!
.
I could be wrong but I really don't think she'll stroll it
She won't stroll it but there's no stopping half minded voters who will fall for the gender card.
Or the let's not vote for a lunatic card?"
Hence why she'll win! |
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By *nfamyMan
over a year ago
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"Sanders wins are all narrow though, and in states that apportion delegates proportionally that's no good
Where Hilary wins in places like New York and Caifornia (she's well ahead in their polls there) she tends to win comfortably and they've got lots of delegates
Sanders will drag it out but the maths are worse for him than they were for Cruz.
For sanders it was always about raising awareness in corruption in politics. Ie big money.
He'll "drag it" as long as he's got a platform.... But let's not forget Clinton dragged it out all the way to California against Obama with very little chance of winning.
I suspect Hillary will struggle more than people think, she's got terrible approval ratings, she's actually disliked massively by alot of democrats and absolutely hated by Republicans.
And unlike sanders trump will dig up plenty of shit on her... Her biggest problem politically is her hawkishness with war!, we've yet to hear the redacted 28 pages of the 911 commission but the governor who has seen them has been pretty honest about its implications and then there's the ongoing FBI email investigation...
I certainly don't think she'll be in for a easy stroll
But look at her competition... even a turd sandwich can beat a giant douche .
She couldn't beat an unknown black guy with a Muslim middle name!.
She's only just scrapped through agaist a socialist?.
The woman is not as electable as we might think over here
You're ignoring the fact that the unknown black guy was handsome as fuck, had Tony Blair's ability to make you believe the future won't be like the past and was back by an awesome campaign team who never once let him be pictured with those dirty cigarettes in his mouth.
When you put Obama next to Clinton or Trump he looks like fucking Roosevelt had a baby with Tony Blair (i.e electable) .
That's easy to say now 8 years later??.
It's not like America has never had a handsome black politican before is it or charismatic ones!.
He beat Hillary fairly and squarely on one promise... Change!
.
I could be wrong but I really don't think she'll stroll it
She won't stroll it but there's no stopping half minded voters who will fall for the gender card.
Or the let's not vote for a lunatic card?"
Lunatic?
He's just misunderstood |
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"Sanders wins are all narrow though, and in states that apportion delegates proportionally that's no good
Where Hilary wins in places like New York and Caifornia (she's well ahead in their polls there) she tends to win comfortably and they've got lots of delegates
Sanders will drag it out but the maths are worse for him than they were for Cruz.
For sanders it was always about raising awareness in corruption in politics. Ie big money.
He'll "drag it" as long as he's got a platform.... But let's not forget Clinton dragged it out all the way to California against Obama with very little chance of winning.
I suspect Hillary will struggle more than people think, she's got terrible approval ratings, she's actually disliked massively by alot of democrats and absolutely hated by Republicans.
And unlike sanders trump will dig up plenty of shit on her... Her biggest problem politically is her hawkishness with war!, we've yet to hear the redacted 28 pages of the 911 commission but the governor who has seen them has been pretty honest about its implications and then there's the ongoing FBI email investigation...
I certainly don't think she'll be in for a easy stroll
But look at her competition... even a turd sandwich can beat a giant douche .
She couldn't beat an unknown black guy with a Muslim middle name!.
She's only just scrapped through agaist a socialist?.
The woman is not as electable as we might think over here
You're ignoring the fact that the unknown black guy was handsome as fuck, had Tony Blair's ability to make you believe the future won't be like the past and was back by an awesome campaign team who never once let him be pictured with those dirty cigarettes in his mouth.
When you put Obama next to Clinton or Trump he looks like fucking Roosevelt had a baby with Tony Blair (i.e electable) .
That's easy to say now 8 years later??.
It's not like America has never had a handsome black politican before is it or charismatic ones!.
He beat Hillary fairly and squarely on one promise... Change!
.
I could be wrong but I really don't think she'll stroll it
She won't stroll it but there's no stopping half minded voters who will fall for the gender card.
Or the let's not vote for a lunatic card?
Lunatic?
He's just misunderstood "
About as misunderstood as Charles Manson... |
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"Sanders wins are all narrow though, and in states that apportion delegates proportionally that's no good
Where Hilary wins in places like New York and Caifornia (she's well ahead in their polls there) she tends to win comfortably and they've got lots of delegates
Sanders will drag it out but the maths are worse for him than they were for Cruz.
For sanders it was always about raising awareness in corruption in politics. Ie big money.
He'll "drag it" as long as he's got a platform.... But let's not forget Clinton dragged it out all the way to California against Obama with very little chance of winning.
I suspect Hillary will struggle more than people think, she's got terrible approval ratings, she's actually disliked massively by alot of democrats and absolutely hated by Republicans.
And unlike sanders trump will dig up plenty of shit on her... Her biggest problem politically is her hawkishness with war!, we've yet to hear the redacted 28 pages of the 911 commission but the governor who has seen them has been pretty honest about its implications and then there's the ongoing FBI email investigation...
I certainly don't think she'll be in for a easy stroll
But look at her competition... even a turd sandwich can beat a giant douche .
She couldn't beat an unknown black guy with a Muslim middle name!.
She's only just scrapped through agaist a socialist?.
The woman is not as electable as we might think over here
You're ignoring the fact that the unknown black guy was handsome as fuck, had Tony Blair's ability to make you believe the future won't be like the past and was back by an awesome campaign team who never once let him be pictured with those dirty cigarettes in his mouth.
When you put Obama next to Clinton or Trump he looks like fucking Roosevelt had a baby with Tony Blair (i.e electable) .
That's easy to say now 8 years later??.
It's not like America has never had a handsome black politican before is it or charismatic ones!.
He beat Hillary fairly and squarely on one promise... Change!
.
I could be wrong but I really don't think she'll stroll it
She won't stroll it but there's no stopping half minded voters who will fall for the gender card.
Or the let's not vote for a lunatic card?
Lunatic?
He's just misunderstood
About as misunderstood as Charles Manson..."
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"Sanders wins are all narrow though, and in states that apportion delegates proportionally that's no good
Where Hilary wins in places like New York and Caifornia (she's well ahead in their polls there) she tends to win comfortably and they've got lots of delegates
Sanders will drag it out but the maths are worse for him than they were for Cruz.
For sanders it was always about raising awareness in corruption in politics. Ie big money.
He'll "drag it" as long as he's got a platform.... But let's not forget Clinton dragged it out all the way to California against Obama with very little chance of winning.
I suspect Hillary will struggle more than people think, she's got terrible approval ratings, she's actually disliked massively by alot of democrats and absolutely hated by Republicans.
And unlike sanders trump will dig up plenty of shit on her... Her biggest problem politically is her hawkishness with war!, we've yet to hear the redacted 28 pages of the 911 commission but the governor who has seen them has been pretty honest about its implications and then there's the ongoing FBI email investigation...
I certainly don't think she'll be in for a easy stroll
But look at her competition... even a turd sandwich can beat a giant douche .
She couldn't beat an unknown black guy with a Muslim middle name!.
She's only just scrapped through agaist a socialist?.
The woman is not as electable as we might think over here
You're ignoring the fact that the unknown black guy was handsome as fuck, had Tony Blair's ability to make you believe the future won't be like the past and was back by an awesome campaign team who never once let him be pictured with those dirty cigarettes in his mouth.
When you put Obama next to Clinton or Trump he looks like fucking Roosevelt had a baby with Tony Blair (i.e electable) .
That's easy to say now 8 years later??.
It's not like America has never had a handsome black politican before is it or charismatic ones!.
He beat Hillary fairly and squarely on one promise... Change!
.
I could be wrong but I really don't think she'll stroll it
She won't stroll it but there's no stopping half minded voters who will fall for the gender card.
Or the let's not vote for a lunatic card?
Lunatic?
He's just misunderstood
About as misunderstood as Charles Manson..."
.....but a whole lot more dangerous. ... |
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let's face it the yanks love to have a loon in power. Reagan was near enough senile when he got in, bush was bonkers and Bush junior was rejected from the muppets for bwing too much of a dummy and he needed a lot of cheating to help him get in. So, wouldn't be a surprise if crackpot Mr Fart got in. have you seen the people at his rallies? The guys look like dyed in the wool bible bashing crazies or redneck inbreeds and the women (younger ones) look like gold diggers and older ones Ma baker types. If crazies like Putin, Kim jong un or Mugabe along with the bizarre weather don't persuade you that the world is about to end then having Trump for US president should. Only consolation is he wouldn't take office til 2017 so I can get this years holidays done. |
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"let's face it the yanks love to have a loon in power. Reagan was near enough senile when he got in, bush was bonkers and Bush junior was rejected from the muppets for bwing too much of a dummy and he needed a lot of cheating to help him get in. So, wouldn't be a surprise if crackpot Mr Fart got in. have you seen the people at his rallies? The guys look like dyed in the wool bible bashing crazies or redneck inbreeds and the women (younger ones) look like gold diggers and older ones Ma baker types. If crazies like Putin, Kim jong un or Mugabe along with the bizarre weather don't persuade you that the world is about to end then having Trump for US president should. Only consolation is he wouldn't take office til 2017 so I can get this years holidays done."
Actually Bush Junior was just a raving alcoholic rather than outright dumb. |
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"let's face it the yanks love to have a loon in power. Reagan was near enough senile when he got in, bush was bonkers and Bush junior was rejected from the muppets for bwing too much of a dummy and he needed a lot of cheating to help him get in. So, wouldn't be a surprise if crackpot Mr Fart got in. have you seen the people at his rallies? The guys look like dyed in the wool bible bashing crazies or redneck inbreeds and the women (younger ones) look like gold diggers and older ones Ma baker types. If crazies like Putin, Kim jong un or Mugabe along with the bizarre weather don't persuade you that the world is about to end then having Trump for US president should. Only consolation is he wouldn't take office til 2017 so I can get this years holidays done.
Actually Bush Junior was just a raving alcoholic rather than outright dumb. "
....in the words of father dougal maguire......ah come on now ted......he's fairly stupid...the grecians?.... |
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"Sanders wins are all narrow though, and in states that apportion delegates proportionally that's no good
Where Hilary wins in places like New York and Caifornia (she's well ahead in their polls there) she tends to win comfortably and they've got lots of delegates
Sanders will drag it out but the maths are worse for him than they were for Cruz.
For sanders it was always about raising awareness in corruption in politics. Ie big money.
He'll "drag it" as long as he's got a platform.... But let's not forget Clinton dragged it out all the way to California against Obama with very little chance of winning.
I suspect Hillary will struggle more than people think, she's got terrible approval ratings, she's actually disliked massively by alot of democrats and absolutely hated by Republicans.
And unlike sanders trump will dig up plenty of shit on her... Her biggest problem politically is her hawkishness with war!, we've yet to hear the redacted 28 pages of the 911 commission but the governor who has seen them has been pretty honest about its implications and then there's the ongoing FBI email investigation...
I certainly don't think she'll be in for a easy stroll
But look at her competition... even a turd sandwich can beat a giant douche .
She couldn't beat an unknown black guy with a Muslim middle name!.
She's only just scrapped through agaist a socialist?.
The woman is not as electable as we might think over here
You're ignoring the fact that the unknown black guy was handsome as fuck, had Tony Blair's ability to make you believe the future won't be like the past and was back by an awesome campaign team who never once let him be pictured with those dirty cigarettes in his mouth.
When you put Obama next to Clinton or Trump he looks like fucking Roosevelt had a baby with Tony Blair (i.e electable) .
That's easy to say now 8 years later??.
It's not like America has never had a handsome black politican before is it or charismatic ones!.
He beat Hillary fairly and squarely on one promise... Change!
.
I could be wrong but I really don't think she'll stroll it
She won't stroll it but there's no stopping half minded voters who will fall for the gender card.
Or the let's not vote for a lunatic card?
Lunatic?
He's just misunderstood
About as misunderstood as Charles Manson........but a whole lot more dangerous. ..."
I'd say that Clitons financial services modernization act did more damage than Trump could do if he was trying. The unintended consequences of stupid people are like that. |
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They've a choice between the status quo of a career bureaucrat or a nut job successful businessman who is used to getting his way, who don't give a toss about offending anybody.
I'd go for the nut job, might be just what the world needs, shaking up a bit. |
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"They've a choice between the status quo of a career bureaucrat or a nut job successful businessman who is used to getting his way, who don't give a toss about offending anybody.
I'd go for the nut job, might be just what the world needs, shaking up a bit."
Was just watching on Newsnight about it earlier. It showed a few different polls which Clinton was in the lead on such as foreign policy, security, etc, however there was one poll in which Trump beat Clinton, and that was the poll on the economy. Crucially the economy is the one thing most important to American voters in this election. I think this presidential election could turn out to be very close one way or the other. |
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If we vote to stay were mad and trump should get the job
Old Clintons are part of the super rich American gang as are the bushes and also part of the illuminati and new world order!
! Call me mad,I know
As trump is not!
Boris on the other hand is great for us read on As the euro becomes part and then we will have 1 currency throughout the world i.e. Apple pay,contactless, soon there will be no need for money and trust me this will happen! All part of the masterplan that's if they don't wipe us out first or get us into these femer camps that their creating in America!
Even today in the skies the chemtrails and contrails were quite visible today and will be again tomorrow if you look up to the skies!
Wow all this for trump and Boris lol  |
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"If we vote to stay were mad and trump should get the job
Old Clintons are part of the super rich American gang as are the bushes and also part of the illuminati and new world order!
! Call me mad,I know
As trump is not!
Boris on the other hand is great for us read on As the euro becomes part and then we will have 1 currency throughout the world i.e. Apple pay,contactless, soon there will be no need for money and trust me this will happen! All part of the masterplan that's if they don't wipe us out first or get us into these femer camps that their creating in America!
Even today in the skies the chemtrails and contrails were quite visible today and will be again tomorrow if you look up to the skies!
Wow all this for trump and Boris lol "
Go quietly when the men in white coats come. We both know they are illuminati and not doctors. No need to scream. |
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"If we vote to stay were mad and trump should get the job
Old Clintons are part of the super rich American gang as are the bushes and also part of the illuminati and new world order!
! Call me mad,I know
As trump is not!
Boris on the other hand is great for us read on As the euro becomes part and then we will have 1 currency throughout the world i.e. Apple pay,contactless, soon there will be no need for money and trust me this will happen! All part of the masterplan that's if they don't wipe us out first or get us into these femer camps that their creating in America!
Even today in the skies the chemtrails and contrails were quite visible today and will be again tomorrow if you look up to the skies!
Wow all this for trump and Boris lol "
wait a minute, Donald trump is Donald J. Trump
His initials are therefore DJT
DJT is three letters
Three is the number sides on a triangle
Donald Trump is illuminati confirmed |
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"If we vote to stay were mad and trump should get the job
Old Clintons are part of the super rich American gang as are the bushes and also part of the illuminati and new world order!
! Call me mad,I know
As trump is not!
Boris on the other hand is great for us read on As the euro becomes part and then we will have 1 currency throughout the world i.e. Apple pay,contactless, soon there will be no need for money and trust me this will happen! All part of the masterplan that's if they don't wipe us out first or get us into these femer camps that their creating in America!
Even today in the skies the chemtrails and contrails were quite visible today and will be again tomorrow if you look up to the skies!
Wow all this for trump and Boris lol wait a minute, Donald trump is Donald J. Trump
His initials are therefore DJT
DJT is three letters
Three is the number sides on a triangle
Donald Trump is illuminati confirmed"
Illuminati don't exist ffs.
The NWO definately do though. Or did. They were certainly a force to be reckoned with in WCW but ultimately ceased to have any power after Wrestlemania 18. |
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"If we vote to stay were mad and trump should get the job
Old Clintons are part of the super rich American gang as are the bushes and also part of the illuminati and new world order!
! Call me mad,I know
As trump is not!
Boris on the other hand is great for us read on As the euro becomes part and then we will have 1 currency throughout the world i.e. Apple pay,contactless, soon there will be no need for money and trust me this will happen! All part of the masterplan that's if they don't wipe us out first or get us into these femer camps that their creating in America!
Even today in the skies the chemtrails and contrails were quite visible today and will be again tomorrow if you look up to the skies!
Wow all this for trump and Boris lol wait a minute, Donald trump is Donald J. Trump
His initials are therefore DJT
DJT is three letters
Three is the number sides on a triangle
Donald Trump is illuminati confirmed
Illuminati don't exist ffs.
The NWO definately do though. Or did. They were certainly a force to be reckoned with in WCW but ultimately ceased to have any power after Wrestlemania 18. "
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She won't stroll it but there's no stopping half minded voters who will fall for the gender card.
women are more likely to vote in an election then men.....
so this comes along....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2gdTrh95jU
if that is a republican "anti trump" ad played during the primaries.... imagine what the democrats will come up with....
this is why its going to be a bloodbath, because in presidental debates the rules have always been no noise in the background.... so when his answers aren't going to have a soundtrack of "whooping and hollering" behind it.... they are going to be looked at very differently..."
Let's not forget that Obama had the support of highly influencial figures such as Puff Daddy who got people voting that usually don't turn out.
It remains to be seen if he'll throw his support behind such a corporate puppet as Clinton with his 'vote or die' campaign:
https://youtu.be/9pSh0VAVYn4 |
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coming back to this.... you know i would, since i am an us election gonk...
it will be interesting to see how many policy turns trump with try to make from him running in the primaries...
for examples.... this morning on the us political talk shows, he says he is now for the minimum wage going up (he was against in the debates) and that taxes would go up on the rich (he said they wouldn't in the debates)
plus on the topic of which republicans haven't endorsed him so far... the list is big... but he doesn't really care about bringing the party together at the moment.... but we will see closer to convention time (p.s i still think cleveland will burn/riot)
his electoral map is going to be interesting... because if we say he loses in places where there are big minorities populations (black and hispanic)... so for example....florida, nevada, arizona, colorado,
he basically then has to sweep "big 10" country.... ohio, pennsylania, michigan, indiana, minnesota, wisconsin, iowa and nebraska
i just dont see it... nebraska, indiana, and possibly iowa... ohio at a push but not the rest
if it is a bloodbath like i believe it is going to be... there are going to be a lot of red state or up until the last couple of cycles, former red states going blue... and that is going to really hurt...
georgia shouldn't even be mentioned as a red state going blue
missouri shouldn't be mentioned as a red state going blue...
arizona is traditionally a red state... but with trumps anti hispanic talk... it's a toss up
virginia and north carolina with the right candidates should be red... but trump.... they will go blue |
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It looks like trump will win as he got over the 50% votes, so it will be a showdown between trump v hilary for the white house. I recon trump will win, he also got the most twitter followers. |
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Both absolute idiots, just seeing their campaign says it all really cringing But that's America  .. Donald trump.. Or.. Hillary Clinton!!.. Good lord ... But not trump he's a Pratt!!.. |
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