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My mum also had exactly the same thing when she had a hip operation with a complication about 18 months ago. | |||
"Unfortunately this is something that happened to me just a few nights ago
My mum also had exactly the same thing when she had a hip operation with a complication about 18 months ago. "Not good. Hope you are ok now.. xx | |||
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"Unfortunately this is something that happened to me just a few nights ago
My mum also had exactly the same thing when she had a hip operation with a complication about 18 months ago. "It'll be suggested you go to PALS but there's little point. Perhaps invest in private insurance and avoid it next time. | |||
"Unfortunately this is something that happened to me just a few nights ago
My mum also had exactly the same thing when she had a hip operation with a complication about 18 months ago. "If you feel patients on a ward or you yourself have been mistreated whilst in hospital then please make a formal complaint with the hospital rather than vent frustration on a forum like this. All health professionals have a duty of care towards patients and this is NOT common practise at all. | |||
"Unfortunately this is something that happened to me just a few nights ago
My mum also had exactly the same thing when she had a hip operation with a complication about 18 months ago. "In which case, I hope you reported it formally through PALS and the ward manager. | |||
"Unfortunately this is something that happened to me just a few nights ago
My mum also had exactly the same thing when she had a hip operation with a complication about 18 months ago.
It'll be suggested you go to PALS but there's little point. Perhaps invest in private insurance and avoid it next time. "Ah yes - a perfect excuse for your unabated hatred of the NHS to be aired! Have fun  | |||
"Unfortunately this is something that happened to me just a few nights ago
My mum also had exactly the same thing when she had a hip operation with a complication about 18 months ago.
If you feel patients on a ward or you yourself have been mistreated whilst in hospital then please make a formal complaint with the hospital rather than vent frustration on a forum like this.
All health professionals have a duty of care towards patients and this is NOT common practise at all.
"You say that, but a large number of people will have similar stories. I was left bleeding all over my gown as I haemorrhaged after a procedure. My buzzer wasn't responded to for at least an hour. | |||
"Unfortunately this is something that happened to me just a few nights ago
My mum also had exactly the same thing when she had a hip operation with a complication about 18 months ago.
If you feel patients on a ward or you yourself have been mistreated whilst in hospital then please make a formal complaint with the hospital rather than vent frustration on a forum like this.
All health professionals have a duty of care towards patients and this is NOT common practise at all.
You say that, but a large number of people will have similar stories. I was left bleeding all over my gown as I haemorrhaged after a procedure. My buzzer wasn't responded to for at least an hour. "I do say it yes it wouldn't happen where I work at all. If you feel you were treated badly make a complaint and let the hospital investigate it that's the best way forward. | |||
"Unfortunately this is something that happened to me just a few nights ago
My mum also had exactly the same thing when she had a hip operation with a complication about 18 months ago.
It'll be suggested you go to PALS but there's little point. Perhaps invest in private insurance and avoid it next time.
Ah yes - a perfect excuse for your unabated hatred of the NHS to be aired! Have fun "I just don't see what the point in reporting to PALS is, it's futile and nothing changes, it's just unnecessary work for the NHS. Do you disagree that the attention provided on private wards is better? I've had significantly better treatment on private wards than NHS ones which left me needing transfusions. You can call it unabated hatred, I just think it's making a choice. I can afford it, and I'd rather not risk my life again. | |||
"I've heard a patient scream when I was laying in hospital after an RTC. I don't think patients scream because of pain though, might be due to something else. If someone was really suffering from so much pain they would put them in induced coma, but don't quote me on that." what a load of bollocks ! this is exactly how rumours and scare mongering start ! | |||
"Unfortunately this is something that happened to me just a few nights ago
My mum also had exactly the same thing when she had a hip operation with a complication about 18 months ago.
It'll be suggested you go to PALS but there's little point. Perhaps invest in private insurance and avoid it next time.
Ah yes - a perfect excuse for your unabated hatred of the NHS to be aired! Have fun "Huh? Who said anything about hating the NHS? It was a question relating to pain management on wards, which is a very tiny part of a very massive and complex organisation that I am very fond of, proud of, and appreciative for. | |||
"Unfortunately this is something that happened to me just a few nights ago
My mum also had exactly the same thing when she had a hip operation with a complication about 18 months ago.
It'll be suggested you go to PALS but there's little point. Perhaps invest in private insurance and avoid it next time.
Ah yes - a perfect excuse for your unabated hatred of the NHS to be aired! Have fun
Huh? Who said anything about hating the NHS? It was a question relating to pain management on wards, which is a very tiny part of a very massive and complex organisation that I am very fond of, proud of, and appreciative for."It was a dig at me, not you. | |||
"Unfortunately this is something that happened to me just a few nights ago
My mum also had exactly the same thing when she had a hip operation with a complication about 18 months ago.
It'll be suggested you go to PALS but there's little point. Perhaps invest in private insurance and avoid it next time.
Ah yes - a perfect excuse for your unabated hatred of the NHS to be aired! Have fun
Huh? Who said anything about hating the NHS? It was a question relating to pain management on wards, which is a very tiny part of a very massive and complex organisation that I am very fond of, proud of, and appreciative for.
It was a dig at me, not you. "Oh ok, my misunderstanding | |||
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"Unfortunately this is something that happened to me just a few nights ago
My mum also had exactly the same thing when she had a hip operation with a complication about 18 months ago.
It'll be suggested you go to PALS but there's little point. Perhaps invest in private insurance and avoid it next time.
Ah yes - a perfect excuse for your unabated hatred of the NHS to be aired! Have fun
Huh? Who said anything about hating the NHS? It was a question relating to pain management on wards, which is a very tiny part of a very massive and complex organisation that I am very fond of, proud of, and appreciative for."That comment wasn't aimed at you OP -apologies if you thought so. | |||
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"Unfortunately this is something that happened to me just a few nights ago
My mum also had exactly the same thing when she had a hip operation with a complication about 18 months ago.
It'll be suggested you go to PALS but there's little point. Perhaps invest in private insurance and avoid it next time.
Ah yes - a perfect excuse for your unabated hatred of the NHS to be aired! Have fun
I just don't see what the point in reporting to PALS is, it's futile and nothing changes, it's just unnecessary work for the NHS.
Do you disagree that the attention provided on private wards is better? I've had significantly better treatment on private wards than NHS ones which left me needing transfusions.
You can call it unabated hatred, I just think it's making a choice. I can afford it, and I'd rather not risk my life again."Yes we know you can afford it many previous posts you mentioned what you can and can't afford etc. I don't see how paying makes any difference to be honest when Infact the Drs treating you are NHS Drs doing Pvt jobs to earn more money. I'm passionate about patient care if you don't like the way you were treated complain the right way rather than tar all NHS professionals the same way. | |||
"Unfortunately this is something that happened to me just a few nights ago
My mum also had exactly the same thing when she had a hip operation with a complication about 18 months ago.
If you feel patients on a ward or you yourself have been mistreated whilst in hospital then please make a formal complaint with the hospital rather than vent frustration on a forum like this.
All health professionals have a duty of care towards patients and this is NOT common practise at all.
You say that, but a large number of people will have similar stories. I was left bleeding all over my gown as I haemorrhaged after a procedure. My buzzer wasn't responded to for at least an hour.
I do say it yes it wouldn't happen where I work at all. If you feel you were treated badly make a complaint and let the hospital investigate it that's the best way forward. " it will address any issues and prevent future occurances | |||
"I've heard a patient scream when I was laying in hospital after an RTC. I don't think patients scream because of pain though, might be due to something else. If someone was really suffering from so much pain they would put them in induced coma, but don't quote me on that.what a load of bollocks ! this is exactly how rumours and scare mongering start ! " I asked not to quote me on that. It's just what I thought they do, when you're in a lot of pain despite morphine or other pain killers. Too much Dr. House for me I guess  | |||
"I once ended up removing my own urinary cather as there was something wrong with it (had been lut in whipe i was unconciouss ) to the point it was literaly like somone had smeared it in fucking chilli before putting it in. Begged for it to be removed for well over an hour getting numerous excuses with the last one being. We're doing the hand over meeting now we'll tell the next shift and they'll be through to remove it shortly....saw noone for abour an hour after that so in the end the police officer with me (after repeatedly going to speak to the staff) took the hand cuffs off and let me take it out myself. I dont like hospitals..." with the 10ml balloon still inflated ???  | |||
"Unfortunately this is something that happened to me just a few nights ago
My mum also had exactly the same thing when she had a hip operation with a complication about 18 months ago.
It'll be suggested you go to PALS but there's little point. Perhaps invest in private insurance and avoid it next time.
Ah yes - a perfect excuse for your unabated hatred of the NHS to be aired! Have fun
I just don't see what the point in reporting to PALS is, it's futile and nothing changes, it's just unnecessary work for the NHS.
Do you disagree that the attention provided on private wards is better? I've had significantly better treatment on private wards than NHS ones which left me needing transfusions.
You can call it unabated hatred, I just think it's making a choice. I can afford it, and I'd rather not risk my life again.
Yes we know you can afford it many previous posts you mentioned what you can and can't afford etc.
I don't see how paying makes any difference to be honest when Infact the Drs treating you are NHS Drs doing Pvt jobs to earn more money.
I'm passionate about patient care if you don't like the way you were treated complain the right way rather than tar all NHS professionals the same way.
"Well, during my stays on private wards, my buzzers are responded to. Plus I have access to better renal treatments than on the NHS, and I won't die as a result. I also just received nicer treatment and the nurses want to help you which is much rarer in London NHS trusts hospitals. Anyway, nothing came of my complaint so I think it's a waste of time even submitting one. It didn't help anyone, just contributed to the existing burden. | |||
"I remember a lady on the same ward as a relative being left to soil herself and in agony as the HCA wouldn't get a nurse to come back from her lunch to administer painkillers and help move and clean her. That was pure cruelty, I shouldn't have had to clean up the urine or cover her up until the nurse returned. " It is not the job of a nurse to provide personal care for a patient this is provided by auxiliary nursing staff... | |||
"I've heard a patient scream when I was laying in hospital after an RTC. I don't think patients scream because of pain though, might be due to something else. If someone was really suffering from so much pain they would put them in induced coma, but don't quote me on that.what a load of bollocks ! this is exactly how rumours and scare mongering start ! I asked not to quote me on that. It's just what I thought they do, when you're in a lot of pain despite morphine or other pain killers. Too much Dr. House for me I guess "The hospital put my dad in an induced coma after his motorbike crash, not sure why they did that but my mum told me this, so it does happen. | |||
"I remember a lady on the same ward as a relative being left to soil herself and in agony as the HCA wouldn't get a nurse to come back from her lunch to administer painkillers and help move and clean her. That was pure cruelty, I shouldn't have had to clean up the urine or cover her up until the nurse returned. It is not the job of a nurse to provide personal care for a patient this is provided by auxiliary nursing staff... " She had an open packed wound, they wouldn't move her without a nurse present. And they couldn't administer painkillers. Anyway, there was 1 HCA on the ward, everyone else was on their break. | |||
"I once ended up removing my own urinary cather as there was something wrong with it (had been lut in whipe i was unconciouss ) to the point it was literaly like somone had smeared it in fucking chilli before putting it in. Begged for it to be removed for well over an hour getting numerous excuses with the last one being. We're doing the hand over meeting now we'll tell the next shift and they'll be through to remove it shortly....saw noone for abour an hour after that so in the end the police officer with me (after repeatedly going to speak to the staff) took the hand cuffs off and let me take it out myself. I dont like hospitals...with the 10ml balloon still inflated ??? "No i figured out how to deflate it lol :p | |||
Despite the bad i still think nurses who care are like guardian angels for their patients  | |||
"I once ended up removing my own urinary cather as there was something wrong with it (had been lut in whipe i was unconciouss ) to the point it was literaly like somone had smeared it in fucking chilli before putting it in. Begged for it to be removed for well over an hour getting numerous excuses with the last one being. We're doing the hand over meeting now we'll tell the next shift and they'll be through to remove it shortly....saw noone for abour an hour after that so in the end the police officer with me (after repeatedly going to speak to the staff) took the hand cuffs off and let me take it out myself. I dont like hospitals...with the 10ml balloon still inflated ???
No i figured out how to deflate it lol :p"My grandfather tore his out when he had a bad reaction to his morphine in the hospice, it was an awful sight, you were lucky! | |||
"I've heard a patient scream when I was laying in hospital after an RTC. I don't think patients scream because of pain though, might be due to something else. If someone was really suffering from so much pain they would put them in induced coma, but don't quote me on that.what a load of bollocks ! this is exactly how rumours and scare mongering start ! I asked not to quote me on that. It's just what I thought they do, when you're in a lot of pain despite morphine or other pain killers. Too much Dr. House for me I guess
The hospital put my dad in an induced coma after his motorbike crash, not sure why they did that but my mum told me this, so it does happen."brain injuries it is common a practice yes but only to help the brain heal not keep patients quiet | |||
"I've heard a patient scream when I was laying in hospital after an RTC. I don't think patients scream because of pain though, might be due to something else. If someone was really suffering from so much pain they would put them in induced coma, but don't quote me on that.what a load of bollocks ! this is exactly how rumours and scare mongering start ! I asked not to quote me on that. It's just what I thought they do, when you're in a lot of pain despite morphine or other pain killers. Too much Dr. House for me I guess
The hospital put my dad in an induced coma after his motorbike crash, not sure why they did that but my mum told me this, so it does happen.
brain injuries it is common a practice yes but only to help the brain heal not keep patients quiet "that makes sense and it could have been that, i really don't remember at all though. | |||
"I've heard a patient scream when I was laying in hospital after an RTC. I don't think patients scream because of pain though, might be due to something else. If someone was really suffering from so much pain they would put them in induced coma, but don't quote me on that.what a load of bollocks ! this is exactly how rumours and scare mongering start ! I asked not to quote me on that. It's just what I thought they do, when you're in a lot of pain despite morphine or other pain killers. Too much Dr. House for me I guess
The hospital put my dad in an induced coma after his motorbike crash, not sure why they did that but my mum told me this, so it does happen.
brain injuries it is common a practice yes but only to help the brain heal not keep patients quiet
that makes sense and it could have been that, i really don't remember at all though."It helps the brain heal by lowering the pressure in the brain and therefore lowering the swelling. Sometimes they'll get bore holes too to give a bit more room to accomodate swelling. | |||
"I've heard a patient scream when I was laying in hospital after an RTC. I don't think patients scream because of pain though, might be due to something else. If someone was really suffering from so much pain they would put them in induced coma, but don't quote me on that.what a load of bollocks ! this is exactly how rumours and scare mongering start ! I asked not to quote me on that. It's just what I thought they do, when you're in a lot of pain despite morphine or other pain killers. Too much Dr. House for me I guess
The hospital put my dad in an induced coma after his motorbike crash, not sure why they did that but my mum told me this, so it does happen.
brain injuries it is common a practice yes but only to help the brain heal not keep patients quiet
that makes sense and it could have been that, i really don't remember at all though.
It helps the brain heal by lowering the pressure in the brain and therefore lowering the swelling. Sometimes they'll get bore holes too to give a bit more room to accomodate swelling. "ew, curse my vivid imagination... | |||
"I've heard a patient scream when I was laying in hospital after an RTC. I don't think patients scream because of pain though, might be due to something else. If someone was really suffering from so much pain they would put them in induced coma, but don't quote me on that.what a load of bollocks ! this is exactly how rumours and scare mongering start ! I asked not to quote me on that. It's just what I thought they do, when you're in a lot of pain despite morphine or other pain killers. Too much Dr. House for me I guess
The hospital put my dad in an induced coma after his motorbike crash, not sure why they did that but my mum told me this, so it does happen.
brain injuries it is common a practice yes but only to help the brain heal not keep patients quiet
that makes sense and it could have been that, i really don't remember at all though.
It helps the brain heal by lowering the pressure in the brain and therefore lowering the swelling. Sometimes they'll get bore holes too to give a bit more room to accomodate swelling.
ew, curse my vivid imagination..."My mum has a few bore holes from an accident. She lets people feel them, 20 odd years on and they're still palpable.  | |||
"I've heard a patient scream when I was laying in hospital after an RTC. I don't think patients scream because of pain though, might be due to something else. If someone was really suffering from so much pain they would put them in induced coma, but don't quote me on that.what a load of bollocks ! this is exactly how rumours and scare mongering start ! I asked not to quote me on that. It's just what I thought they do, when you're in a lot of pain despite morphine or other pain killers. Too much Dr. House for me I guess
The hospital put my dad in an induced coma after his motorbike crash, not sure why they did that but my mum told me this, so it does happen.
brain injuries it is common a practice yes but only to help the brain heal not keep patients quiet
that makes sense and it could have been that, i really don't remember at all though.
It helps the brain heal by lowering the pressure in the brain and therefore lowering the swelling. Sometimes they'll get bore holes too to give a bit more room to accomodate swelling.
ew, curse my vivid imagination...
My mum has a few bore holes from an accident. She lets people feel them, 20 odd years on and they're still palpable. "haha stop!!! did you feel them? | |||
"I've heard a patient scream when I was laying in hospital after an RTC. I don't think patients scream because of pain though, might be due to something else. If someone was really suffering from so much pain they would put them in induced coma, but don't quote me on that.what a load of bollocks ! this is exactly how rumours and scare mongering start ! I asked not to quote me on that. It's just what I thought they do, when you're in a lot of pain despite morphine or other pain killers. Too much Dr. House for me I guess
The hospital put my dad in an induced coma after his motorbike crash, not sure why they did that but my mum told me this, so it does happen.
brain injuries it is common a practice yes but only to help the brain heal not keep patients quiet
that makes sense and it could have been that, i really don't remember at all though.
It helps the brain heal by lowering the pressure in the brain and therefore lowering the swelling. Sometimes they'll get bore holes too to give a bit more room to accomodate swelling.
ew, curse my vivid imagination...
My mum has a few bore holes from an accident. She lets people feel them, 20 odd years on and they're still palpable.
haha stop!!!
did you feel them?"Yes, and helped her remove a cyst the size of a pea too. | |||
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"I've heard a patient scream when I was laying in hospital after an RTC. I don't think patients scream because of pain though, might be due to something else. If someone was really suffering from so much pain they would put them in induced coma, but don't quote me on that.what a load of bollocks ! this is exactly how rumours and scare mongering start ! I asked not to quote me on that. It's just what I thought they do, when you're in a lot of pain despite morphine or other pain killers. Too much Dr. House for me I guess
The hospital put my dad in an induced coma after his motorbike crash, not sure why they did that but my mum told me this, so it does happen.
brain injuries it is common a practice yes but only to help the brain heal not keep patients quiet
that makes sense and it could have been that, i really don't remember at all though.
It helps the brain heal by lowering the pressure in the brain and therefore lowering the swelling. Sometimes they'll get bore holes too to give a bit more room to accomodate swelling.
ew, curse my vivid imagination...
My mum has a few bore holes from an accident. She lets people feel them, 20 odd years on and they're still palpable.
haha stop!!!
did you feel them?
Yes, and helped her remove a cyst the size of a pea too. "aw gross, but also kind of cool if you felt an actual brain. 
i've had cysts when my diabetes was out of control, they're nasty. and smell as bad. | |||
"I've heard a patient scream when I was laying in hospital after an RTC. I don't think patients scream because of pain though, might be due to something else. If someone was really suffering from so much pain they would put them in induced coma, but don't quote me on that.what a load of bollocks ! this is exactly how rumours and scare mongering start ! I asked not to quote me on that. It's just what I thought they do, when you're in a lot of pain despite morphine or other pain killers. Too much Dr. House for me I guess
The hospital put my dad in an induced coma after his motorbike crash, not sure why they did that but my mum told me this, so it does happen.
brain injuries it is common a practice yes but only to help the brain heal not keep patients quiet
that makes sense and it could have been that, i really don't remember at all though.
It helps the brain heal by lowering the pressure in the brain and therefore lowering the swelling. Sometimes they'll get bore holes too to give a bit more room to accomodate swelling.
ew, curse my vivid imagination...
My mum has a few bore holes from an accident. She lets people feel them, 20 odd years on and they're still palpable. "I think u mean burr holes hunni  | |||
"I've heard a patient scream when I was laying in hospital after an RTC. I don't think patients scream because of pain though, might be due to something else. If someone was really suffering from so much pain they would put them in induced coma, but don't quote me on that.what a load of bollocks ! this is exactly how rumours and scare mongering start ! I asked not to quote me on that. It's just what I thought they do, when you're in a lot of pain despite morphine or other pain killers. Too much Dr. House for me I guess
The hospital put my dad in an induced coma after his motorbike crash, not sure why they did that but my mum told me this, so it does happen.
brain injuries it is common a practice yes but only to help the brain heal not keep patients quiet
that makes sense and it could have been that, i really don't remember at all though.
It helps the brain heal by lowering the pressure in the brain and therefore lowering the swelling. Sometimes they'll get bore holes too to give a bit more room to accomodate swelling.
ew, curse my vivid imagination...
My mum has a few bore holes from an accident. She lets people feel them, 20 odd years on and they're still palpable. I think u mean burr holes hunni " | |||
"I've heard a patient scream when I was laying in hospital after an RTC. I don't think patients scream because of pain though, might be due to something else. If someone was really suffering from so much pain they would put them in induced coma, but don't quote me on that.what a load of bollocks ! this is exactly how rumours and scare mongering start ! I asked not to quote me on that. It's just what I thought they do, when you're in a lot of pain despite morphine or other pain killers. Too much Dr. House for me I guess
The hospital put my dad in an induced coma after his motorbike crash, not sure why they did that but my mum told me this, so it does happen.
brain injuries it is common a practice yes but only to help the brain heal not keep patients quiet
that makes sense and it could have been that, i really don't remember at all though.
It helps the brain heal by lowering the pressure in the brain and therefore lowering the swelling. Sometimes they'll get bore holes too to give a bit more room to accomodate swelling.
ew, curse my vivid imagination...
My mum has a few bore holes from an accident. She lets people feel them, 20 odd years on and they're still palpable.
haha stop!!!
did you feel them?
Yes, and helped her remove a cyst the size of a pea too.
aw gross, but also kind of cool if you felt an actual brain.
i've had cysts when my diabetes was out of control, they're nasty. and smell as bad."No brain, still a lot of stuff to go through, just feel empty space. It's grim. And yeh, I wasn't pleased helping her with it, but no one else in the family could stomach it. | |||
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"I've heard a patient scream when I was laying in hospital after an RTC. I don't think patients scream because of pain though, might be due to something else. If someone was really suffering from so much pain they would put them in induced coma, but don't quote me on that.what a load of bollocks ! this is exactly how rumours and scare mongering start ! I asked not to quote me on that. It's just what I thought they do, when you're in a lot of pain despite morphine or other pain killers. Too much Dr. House for me I guess
The hospital put my dad in an induced coma after his motorbike crash, not sure why they did that but my mum told me this, so it does happen.
brain injuries it is common a practice yes but only to help the brain heal not keep patients quiet
that makes sense and it could have been that, i really don't remember at all though.
It helps the brain heal by lowering the pressure in the brain and therefore lowering the swelling. Sometimes they'll get bore holes too to give a bit more room to accomodate swelling.
ew, curse my vivid imagination...
My mum has a few bore holes from an accident. She lets people feel them, 20 odd years on and they're still palpable.
haha stop!!!
did you feel them?
Yes, and helped her remove a cyst the size of a pea too.
aw gross, but also kind of cool if you felt an actual brain.
i've had cysts when my diabetes was out of control, they're nasty. and smell as bad.
No brain, still a lot of stuff to go through, just feel empty space. It's grim. And yeh, I wasn't pleased helping her with it, but no one else in the family could stomach it. "my imagination got carried away with the brain thing... aw, least you sorted her out. | |||
"I've spent a considerable amount of time, in wards from high dependancy to spinal (no other beds available). Sepsis kept me in for 3 weeks, admittedly lots of this I was out of my tree with a 40+ temp. 99% of the issues I saw were down to 2 basic reasons... mostly down to under staffed. My last stay saw 1 staff nurse overseeing 26 male and 26 female beds, with 2 students nurses, 2 health care and 1 normal nurse. So a 11:1 ratio. 1 elderly gent clearly senile, constantly pulling his drip out, pulling his catheter out, saying he were starving and they won't feed him (even minutes after if just seen him eat), the nurses were seeing him constantly, so 1 patient with 2 nurses leaves 20:1 for the remaining staff. The same ward as this, were had another patient also elderly who kept picking his wound, and dressing making it bleed every where which meant a bed change. So these 2 patients monopolised 90% of the staff while 1 nurse remained to deal with 54 patients. The next issue, the doctors, I were on more antibiotics than you'd believe, I had 3 drips in 1 arm, a drip in my foot and 1 in the other, yet the doctor hadn't put probiotics on the chart. So the nurse even though they were in the fridge behind her couldn't give me one, and wouldn't let me have some brought in. The same happened with pain relief. Under break through pain, I had nothing down. So I had to wait until a doctor came to prescribe it. It took about 8 hours before they stuck iv morphine and oromorph on my list. Again the iv were a 1 off dose, and liquid were limited, so I had gaps, again getting a doctor to change it, as the nurses can't do anything. The doctor issue, and the nurse issue may both be down to low staff but it seems to me, a huge staff shortage. I witnessed the same on most wards with the exception of the resuscitation suite where they swarm like locusts and post op, it seems almost normal to be to staffed like this. I can believe people are left to wait, but don't believe it's by choice. " You're right. I've only witnessed a lack of care and cruelty the once. On the whole, I don't think patients are ignored because the professional simply doesn't care. There is a load of inefficiency though, changing that would definitely help the care people receive. | |||
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"Unfortunately this is something that happened to me just a few nights ago
My mum also had exactly the same thing when she had a hip operation with a complication about 18 months ago.
If you feel patients on a ward or you yourself have been mistreated whilst in hospital then please make a formal complaint with the hospital rather than vent frustration on a forum like this.
All health professionals have a duty of care towards patients and this is NOT common practise at all.
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"And where did you get this little gem of information from? " | |||
"And where did you get this little gem of information from? "As I said above, personal experience a few days ago, and from my mum who had an op around 18m ago. | |||
"Why are patients who are screaming in agony just left to scream on wards? Is the response "you've already had your meds" good enough for people in severe pain and suffering? " Perhaps they'd already had the appropriate (& maximum) dosages? | |||
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"Why are patients who are screaming in agony just left to scream on wards? Is the response "you've already had your meds" good enough for people in severe pain and suffering? Perhaps they'd already had the appropriate (& maximum) dosages? " Well when you are the one in agony, you will probably disagree that the level of pain relief is appropriate. | |||
"There is a great staff shortage of nurses and they are only human but these things should not happen,but for all this the nurses in hospitals are in the main amazing people." Totally agree .don't forget as someone mentioned earlier some people will call out for attention no matter what .also never enough staff on . | |||
"Why are patients who are screaming in agony just left to scream on wards? Is the response "you've already had your meds" good enough for people in severe pain and suffering? Perhaps they'd already had the appropriate (& maximum) dosages? Well when you are the one in agony, you will probably disagree that the level of pain relief is appropriate. " Would you prefer the nurses to give a potentially lethal overdose of pain relief? | |||
"Why are patients who are screaming in agony just left to scream on wards? Is the response "you've already had your meds" good enough for people in severe pain and suffering? Perhaps they'd already had the appropriate (& maximum) dosages? Well when you are the one in agony, you will probably disagree that the level of pain relief is appropriate. Would you prefer the nurses to give a potentially lethal overdose of pain relief? " No, i was thinking an appropriate amount that was both safe, and actually relieved the pain. | |||
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"Why are patients who are screaming in agony just left to scream on wards? Is the response "you've already had your meds" good enough for people in severe pain and suffering? Perhaps they'd already had the appropriate (& maximum) dosages? Well when you are the one in agony, you will probably disagree that the level of pain relief is appropriate. Would you prefer the nurses to give a potentially lethal overdose of pain relief? No, i was thinking an appropriate amount that was both safe, and actually relieved the pain. " See the problem is nurses and doctors are only human not miracle workers most do the best they can (note I said most so please don't be throwing Beverly Allitt or Harold Shipman at me), if the safe dosage of medication has been administered and people are still complaining of being in pain what would you suggest happens next? What you have to remember is most people in pain will make out its 100% worse than it is so it's not always easy to know how much pain somebody is in purely on their say so | |||
"Why are patients who are screaming in agony just left to scream on wards? Is the response "you've already had your meds" good enough for people in severe pain and suffering? Perhaps they'd already had the appropriate (& maximum) dosages? Well when you are the one in agony, you will probably disagree that the level of pain relief is appropriate. Would you prefer the nurses to give a potentially lethal overdose of pain relief? No, i was thinking an appropriate amount that was both safe, and actually relieved the pain. " the art of pain management is a complicated science best left to the trained qualified professionals to deal with not lay people with no idea of what is actually happening but if in doubt go speak to the staff on duty not posting scare mongering threads on here ! highly inappropriate behaviour from and adult | |||
"Why are patients who are screaming in agony just left to scream on wards? Is the response "you've already had your meds" good enough for people in severe pain and suffering? Perhaps they'd already had the appropriate (& maximum) dosages? Well when you are the one in agony, you will probably disagree that the level of pain relief is appropriate. Would you prefer the nurses to give a potentially lethal overdose of pain relief? No, i was thinking an appropriate amount that was both safe, and actually relieved the pain. See the problem is nurses and doctors are only human not miracle workers most do the best they can (note I said most so please don't be throwing Beverly Allitt or Harold Shipman at me), if the safe dosage of medication has been administered and people are still complaining of being in pain what would you suggest happens next? What you have to remember is most people in pain will make out its 100% worse than it is so it's not always easy to know how much pain somebody is in purely on their say so " You are so right. Pain is very very subjective. Add a confused patient, due to infection, increased analgesia or whatever reason and their perception of pain is 10 fold. Start plying people with unsafe doses of painkillers then the screaming with continue or even worsen. Think about the circumstances of why that patient is screaming before you judge the staff on the ward OP....we do our very best. | |||
"Why are patients who are screaming in agony just left to scream on wards? Is the response "you've already had your meds" good enough for people in severe pain and suffering? Perhaps they'd already had the appropriate (& maximum) dosages? Well when you are the one in agony, you will probably disagree that the level of pain relief is appropriate. Would you prefer the nurses to give a potentially lethal overdose of pain relief? No, i was thinking an appropriate amount that was both safe, and actually relieved the pain. See the problem is nurses and doctors are only human not miracle workers most do the best they can (note I said most so please don't be throwing Beverly Allitt or Harold Shipman at me), if the safe dosage of medication has been administered and people are still complaining of being in pain what would you suggest happens next? What you have to remember is most people in pain will make out its 100% worse than it is so it's not always easy to know how much pain somebody is in purely on their say so You are so right. Pain is very very subjective. Add a confused patient, due to infection, increased analgesia or whatever reason and their perception of pain is 10 fold. Start plying people with unsafe doses of painkillers then the screaming with continue or even worsen. Think about the circumstances of why that patient is screaming before you judge the staff on the ward OP....we do our very best. "In my experience it's the people who are quiet that are usually the ones who are in the most pain I remember when I was a student nurse being told by a doctor if people are able to shout and make a fuss there usually isn't that much wrong with them, always keep an eye on the quiet ones | |||
"Why are patients who are screaming in agony just left to scream on wards? Is the response "you've already had your meds" good enough for people in severe pain and suffering? Perhaps they'd already had the appropriate (& maximum) dosages? Well when you are the one in agony, you will probably disagree that the level of pain relief is appropriate. Would you prefer the nurses to give a potentially lethal overdose of pain relief? No, i was thinking an appropriate amount that was both safe, and actually relieved the pain. See the problem is nurses and doctors are only human not miracle workers most do the best they can (note I said most so please don't be throwing Beverly Allitt or Harold Shipman at me), if the safe dosage of medication has been administered and people are still complaining of being in pain what would you suggest happens next? What you have to remember is most people in pain will make out its 100% worse than it is so it's not always easy to know how much pain somebody is in purely on their say so You are so right. Pain is very very subjective. Add a confused patient, due to infection, increased analgesia or whatever reason and their perception of pain is 10 fold. Start plying people with unsafe doses of painkillers then the screaming with continue or even worsen. Think about the circumstances of why that patient is screaming before you judge the staff on the ward OP....we do our very best.
In my experience it's the people who are quiet that are usually the ones who are in the most pain
I remember when I was a student nurse being told by a doctor if people are able to shout and make a fuss there usually isn't that much wrong with them, always keep an eye on the quiet ones
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"I have had Four operations on my lower legs over the last two years both a mixture of private and NHS. Whilst the surroundings and waiting time was much better Privately. " Private hospitals may look nice on the surface but they are often much worse behind the scenes than the NHS in estates money is focused on front of house and hotel services with private hospitals, however the rest of them theatres included are starved of money. Just remember that when something goes wrong at a private hospital you will soon end up in the local district general to put you right as they only work well for the routine, the Nhs has to cope with everything thrown at it. I have to say I have felt distressed on wards about the level of staffing and have seen how a few problem patients will absorbs a whole wards worth of staff depriving others, but normally as soon as this is identified additional resource is pulled in. | |||
"Why are patients who are screaming in agony just left to scream on wards? Is the response "you've already had your meds" good enough for people in severe pain and suffering? Perhaps they'd already had the appropriate (& maximum) dosages? Well when you are the one in agony, you will probably disagree that the level of pain relief is appropriate. Would you prefer the nurses to give a potentially lethal overdose of pain relief? No, i was thinking an appropriate amount that was both safe, and actually relieved the pain. the art of pain management is a complicated science best left to the trained qualified professionals to deal with not lay people with no idea of what is actually happening but if in doubt go speak to the staff on duty not posting scare mongering threads on here ! highly inappropriate behaviour from and adult " To be honest I am shocked by your response and some of the other posters on here. I may have been a lay person with no idea of what was happening, but I know was in a LOT of pain. I DID speak to the staff on duty, I asked for pain relief and they said that I had already had had it, and couldn't have anymore. I begged to see a Dr, and they said that one would come, and he did, 5 hours later! I was screaming, I couldn't open my eyes because of the pain for 2 hours, my whole body was trembling. I have never experienced pain like it before. I am not scare mongering, I am explaining my own experience. If you think that a patient explaining that he was in a tremendous amount of pain and not getting the correct level of relief is "inappropriate" then perhaps the situation is worse than I thought. | |||
"I have had Four operations on my lower legs over the last two years both a mixture of private and NHS. Whilst the surroundings and waiting time was much better Privately. Private hospitals may look nice on the surface but they are often much worse behind the scenes than the NHS in estates money is focused on front of house and hotel services with private hospitals, however the rest of them theatres included are starved of money. Just remember that when something goes wrong at a private hospital you will soon end up in the local district general to put you right as they only work well for the routine, the Nhs has to cope with everything thrown at it. I have to say I have felt distressed on wards about the level of staffing and have seen how a few problem patients will absorbs a whole wards worth of staff depriving others, but normally as soon as this is identified additional resource is pulled in. " But in some cases they are also very much better behind the scenes. | |||
"Why are patients who are screaming in agony just left to scream on wards? Is the response "you've already had your meds" good enough for people in severe pain and suffering? Perhaps they'd already had the appropriate (& maximum) dosages? Well when you are the one in agony, you will probably disagree that the level of pain relief is appropriate. Would you prefer the nurses to give a potentially lethal overdose of pain relief? No, i was thinking an appropriate amount that was both safe, and actually relieved the pain. the art of pain management is a complicated science best left to the trained qualified professionals to deal with not lay people with no idea of what is actually happening but if in doubt go speak to the staff on duty not posting scare mongering threads on here ! highly inappropriate behaviour from and adult To be honest I am shocked by your response and some of the other posters on here. I may have been a lay person with no idea of what was happening, but I know was in a LOT of pain. I DID speak to the staff on duty, I asked for pain relief and they said that I had already had had it, and couldn't have anymore. I begged to see a Dr, and they said that one would come, and he did, 5 hours later! I was screaming, I couldn't open my eyes because of the pain for 2 hours, my whole body was trembling. I have never experienced pain like it before. I am not scare mongering, I am explaining my own experience. If you think that a patient explaining that he was in a tremendous amount of pain and not getting the correct level of relief is "inappropriate" then perhaps the situation is worse than I thought." I meant it is highly inappropriate posting your concerns on a swingers site maybe ur efforts may be best suited to complaining to the hospital in question | |||
"I once ended up removing my own urinary cather as there was something wrong with it (had been lut in whipe i was unconciouss ) to the point it was literaly like somone had smeared it in fucking chilli before putting it in. Begged for it to be removed for well over an hour getting numerous excuses with the last one being. We're doing the hand over meeting now we'll tell the next shift and they'll be through to remove it shortly....saw noone for abour an hour after that so in the end the police officer with me (after repeatedly going to speak to the staff) took the hand cuffs off and let me take it out myself. I dont like hospitals...with the 10ml balloon still inflated ???
No i figured out how to deflate it lol :p"How did you figure that out? | |||
"I remember a lady on the same ward as a relative being left to soil herself and in agony as the HCA wouldn't get a nurse to come back from her lunch to administer painkillers and help move and clean her. That was pure cruelty, I shouldn't have had to clean up the urine or cover her up until the nurse returned. It is not the job of a nurse to provide personal care for a patient this is provided by auxiliary nursing staff... " Lots of nurses provided personal care for me during my recent stay in hospital following an operation ! Not just the auxiliary staff | |||
"Why are patients who are screaming in agony just left to scream on wards? Is the response "you've already had your meds" good enough for people in severe pain and suffering? Perhaps they'd already had the appropriate (& maximum) dosages? Well when you are the one in agony, you will probably disagree that the level of pain relief is appropriate. Would you prefer the nurses to give a potentially lethal overdose of pain relief? No, i was thinking an appropriate amount that was both safe, and actually relieved the pain. the art of pain management is a complicated science best left to the trained qualified professionals to deal with not lay people with no idea of what is actually happening but if in doubt go speak to the staff on duty not posting scare mongering threads on here ! highly inappropriate behaviour from and adult To be honest I am shocked by your response and some of the other posters on here. I may have been a lay person with no idea of what was happening, but I know was in a LOT of pain. I DID speak to the staff on duty, I asked for pain relief and they said that I had already had had it, and couldn't have anymore. I begged to see a Dr, and they said that one would come, and he did, 5 hours later! I was screaming, I couldn't open my eyes because of the pain for 2 hours, my whole body was trembling. I have never experienced pain like it before. I am not scare mongering, I am explaining my own experience. If you think that a patient explaining that he was in a tremendous amount of pain and not getting the correct level of relief is "inappropriate" then perhaps the situation is worse than I thought.I meant it is highly inappropriate posting your concerns on a swingers site maybe ur efforts may be best suited to complaining to the hospital in question " Seems to be a trend on here at the moment - let's bash the professionals. Yesterday it was Social Workers, today it's Nurses. GP'S and teachers have had it too. This is how I see it. People only post threads like this for one reason. They are attention seeking. If they where serious about changing anything in life you complain appropriately - thro the management structure, ombudsmen, MP or professional body. Moaning on a swingers site is going to do nothing other than make you look a bit desparate for attention. Never mind you may get sympathy, a pat on the head and offers to take your mind off your pain by fucking you senseless. | |||
"I have had Four operations on my lower legs over the last two years both a mixture of private and NHS. Whilst the surroundings and waiting time was much better Privately. Private hospitals may look nice on the surface but they are often much worse behind the scenes than the NHS in estates money is focused on front of house and hotel services with private hospitals, however the rest of them theatres included are starved of money. Just remember that when something goes wrong at a private hospital you will soon end up in the local district general to put you right as they only work well for the routine, the Nhs has to cope with everything thrown at it. I have to say I have felt distressed on wards about the level of staffing and have seen how a few problem patients will absorbs a whole wards worth of staff depriving others, but normally as soon as this is identified additional resource is pulled in. But in some cases they are also very much better behind the scenes. "ive experience of working in both and have my own conclusions based on facts but I wont share this in a thread on a swingers site  | |||
" there was 1 HCA on the ward, everyone else was on their break. " That is down to crap staff mangement not the nurses, they may have been split between 2 wards and all ended up on the other ward, depends what is going on | |||
"Why are patients who are screaming in agony just left to scream on wards? Is the response "you've already had your meds" good enough for people in severe pain and suffering? " If the patient concerned has had their prescribed meds then it is down to a doctor to review it if it is not working or sufficient, painkillers are not handed out like sweeties | |||
"Why are patients who are screaming in agony just left to scream on wards? Is the response "you've already had your meds" good enough for people in severe pain and suffering? Perhaps they'd already had the appropriate (& maximum) dosages? Well when you are the one in agony, you will probably disagree that the level of pain relief is appropriate. " | |||
"I have had Four operations on my lower legs over the last two years both a mixture of private and NHS. Whilst the surroundings and waiting time was much better Privately. Private hospitals may look nice on the surface but they are often much worse behind the scenes than the NHS in estates money is focused on front of house and hotel services with private hospitals, however the rest of them theatres included are starved of money. Just remember that when something goes wrong at a private hospital you will soon end up in the local district general to put you right as they only work well for the routine, the Nhs has to cope with everything thrown at it. I have to say I have felt distressed on wards about the level of staffing and have seen how a few problem patients will absorbs a whole wards worth of staff depriving others, but normally as soon as this is identified additional resource is pulled in. " ^^^^^^110% if someone goes into cardiac arrest it will look like the marie celeste as they will all be trying to sort out that patient, meaning the blanket that is slightly itchy or the position in the que to use the ward phone may have to wait... | |||
"I have had Four operations on my lower legs over the last two years both a mixture of private and NHS. Whilst the surroundings and waiting time was much better Privately. Private hospitals may look nice on the surface but they are often much worse behind the scenes than the NHS in estates money is focused on front of house and hotel services with private hospitals, however the rest of them theatres included are starved of money. Just remember that when something goes wrong at a private hospital you will soon end up in the local district general to put you right as they only work well for the routine, the Nhs has to cope with everything thrown at it. I have to say I have felt distressed on wards about the level of staffing and have seen how a few problem patients will absorbs a whole wards worth of staff depriving others, but normally as soon as this is identified additional resource is pulled in. ^^^^^^110% if someone goes into cardiac arrest it will look like the marie celeste as they will all be trying to sort out that patient, meaning the blanket that is slightly itchy or the position in the que to use the ward phone may have to wait..." | |||
"I meant it is highly inappropriate posting your concerns on a swingers site maybe ur efforts may be best suited to complaining to the hospital in question " I really dont see how it's inappropriate. Its in the lounge section of the forum which is for non swinging related topics. A quick look at the other threads at the moment cover politics, jedi vs sith, xbox vs ps, celebrities etc. Why should this topic not be up for discussion? | |||
"Why are patients who are screaming in agony just left to scream on wards? Is the response "you've already had your meds" good enough for people in severe pain and suffering? If the patient concerned has had their prescribed meds then it is down to a doctor to review it if it is not working or sufficient, painkillers are not handed out like sweeties" But there isnt a call the Dr button next to the bed is there? You beg the staff to see a dr and like I said one didn't come for 5 hours. I'm assuming you have never been in the situation that I described. The pain relief wasn't sufficient, and it wasn't reviewed. Thats the point I am making, and asking if this is something that regularly happens. As SOME people on here have said that the people who are screaming in pain aren't really in pain at all, and it's the quiet ones who are (bearing in mind we are talking about on the ward, not at the site of major trauma or accident site) in most need of pain relief, then I suspect that a lot of people are suffering a lot of pain in a lot of wards. | |||
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"What was up with you OP if you don't mind me asking? Hope you are better now. " They are not 100% sure to be honest. They need to run more tests, but with the bank holiday weekend, I think everything was backed up so they discharged me and are arranging out patients appointments. But the principle problem on my discharge notes is Acute Liver Disease, as well as swelling in my ankle caused by overlapping psoriatic arthritis and gout. Thats what they think anyway, but they didnt remove or test any fluid from the ankle so they can't be sure. | |||
"Why are patients who are screaming in agony just left to scream on wards? Is the response "you've already had your meds" good enough for people in severe pain and suffering? If the patient concerned has had their prescribed meds then it is down to a doctor to review it if it is not working or sufficient, painkillers are not handed out like sweeties But there isnt a call the Dr button next to the bed is there? You beg the staff to see a dr and like I said one didn't come for 5 hours. I'm assuming you have never been in the situation that I described. The pain relief wasn't sufficient, and it wasn't reviewed. Thats the point I am making, and asking if this is something that regularly happens. As SOME people on here have said that the people who are screaming in pain aren't really in pain at all, and it's the quiet ones who are (bearing in mind we are talking about on the ward, not at the site of major trauma or accident site) in most need of pain relief, then I suspect that a lot of people are suffering a lot of pain in a lot of wards. " Have been in hospital yes, couple of minor ops, no there isnt a call Dr button for good reason lol, Dr will have been notified and note made of it on your records and at staff hand over on change of shift. Complain to your MP there are not enough staff to go around, its quite simple Govt wont bring in minimum staffing levels... | |||
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"I remember a lady on the same ward as a relative being left to soil herself and in agony as the HCA wouldn't get a nurse to come back from her lunch to administer painkillers and help move and clean her. That was pure cruelty, I shouldn't have had to clean up the urine or cover her up until the nurse returned. It is not the job of a nurse to provide personal care for a patient this is provided by auxiliary nursing staff... Lots of nurses provided personal care for me during my recent stay in hospital following an operation ! Not just the auxiliary staff " what do nurses actually do? | |||
"Why are patients who are screaming in agony just left to scream on wards? Is the response "you've already had your meds" good enough for people in severe pain and suffering? If the patient concerned has had their prescribed meds then it is down to a doctor to review it if it is not working or sufficient, painkillers are not handed out like sweeties But there isnt a call the Dr button next to the bed is there? You beg the staff to see a dr and like I said one didn't come for 5 hours. I'm assuming you have never been in the situation that I described. The pain relief wasn't sufficient, and it wasn't reviewed. Thats the point I am making, and asking if this is something that regularly happens. As SOME people on here have said that the people who are screaming in pain aren't really in pain at all, and it's the quiet ones who are (bearing in mind we are talking about on the ward, not at the site of major trauma or accident site) in most need of pain relief, then I suspect that a lot of people are suffering a lot of pain in a lot of wards. " God forbid in that 5 hours the dr didn't come to see you he/she was actually in resus saving some other poor soles life huh. | |||
"Why are patients who are screaming in agony just left to scream on wards? Is the response "you've already had your meds" good enough for people in severe pain and suffering? If the patient concerned has had their prescribed meds then it is down to a doctor to review it if it is not working or sufficient, painkillers are not handed out like sweeties But there isnt a call the Dr button next to the bed is there? You beg the staff to see a dr and like I said one didn't come for 5 hours. I'm assuming you have never been in the situation that I described. The pain relief wasn't sufficient, and it wasn't reviewed. Thats the point I am making, and asking if this is something that regularly happens. As SOME people on here have said that the people who are screaming in pain aren't really in pain at all, and it's the quiet ones who are (bearing in mind we are talking about on the ward, not at the site of major trauma or accident site) in most need of pain relief, then I suspect that a lot of people are suffering a lot of pain in a lot of wards. God forbid in that 5 hours the dr didn't come to see you he/she was actually in resus saving some other poor soles life huh. " I guess you just dont get it. Maybe you will see it from another point of view if you or a member of your family are in agony. | |||
"I have had Four operations on my lower legs over the last two years both a mixture of private and NHS. Whilst the surroundings and waiting time was much better Privately. Private hospitals may look nice on the surface but they are often much worse behind the scenes than the NHS in estates money is focused on front of house and hotel services with private hospitals, however the rest of them theatres included are starved of money. Just remember that when something goes wrong at a private hospital you will soon end up in the local district general to put you right as they only work well for the routine, the Nhs has to cope with everything thrown at it. I have to say I have felt distressed on wards about the level of staffing and have seen how a few problem patients will absorbs a whole wards worth of staff depriving others, but normally as soon as this is identified additional resource is pulled in. ^^^^^^110% if someone goes into cardiac arrest it will look like the marie celeste as they will all be trying to sort out that patient, meaning the blanket that is slightly itchy or the position in the que to use the ward phone may have to wait..." So if one cardiac arrest takes up all the staff what happens if theres 2? | |||
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"Why are patients who are screaming in agony just left to scream on wards? Is the response "you've already had your meds" good enough for people in severe pain and suffering? If the patient concerned has had their prescribed meds then it is down to a doctor to review it if it is not working or sufficient, painkillers are not handed out like sweeties But there isnt a call the Dr button next to the bed is there? You beg the staff to see a dr and like I said one didn't come for 5 hours. I'm assuming you have never been in the situation that I described. The pain relief wasn't sufficient, and it wasn't reviewed. Thats the point I am making, and asking if this is something that regularly happens. As SOME people on here have said that the people who are screaming in pain aren't really in pain at all, and it's the quiet ones who are (bearing in mind we are talking about on the ward, not at the site of major trauma or accident site) in most need of pain relief, then I suspect that a lot of people are suffering a lot of pain in a lot of wards. God forbid in that 5 hours the dr didn't come to see you he/she was actually in resus saving some other poor soles life huh. I guess you just dont get it. Maybe you will see it from another point of view if you or a member of your family are in agony. " Oh I get it your saying your more important than someone who could be needing there life saved. I've been in hospital in pain Infact I was in itu, whilst I was in pain I saw the Drs resuscitating someone I was happy waiting in pain as I saw them working for a few hours and a life was saved. As another poster said if you feel so strongly make a complaint the right way. | |||
"Why are patients who are screaming in agony just left to scream on wards? Is the response "you've already had your meds" good enough for people in severe pain and suffering? If the patient concerned has had their prescribed meds then it is down to a doctor to review it if it is not working or sufficient, painkillers are not handed out like sweeties But there isnt a call the Dr button next to the bed is there? You beg the staff to see a dr and like I said one didn't come for 5 hours. I'm assuming you have never been in the situation that I described. The pain relief wasn't sufficient, and it wasn't reviewed. Thats the point I am making, and asking if this is something that regularly happens. As SOME people on here have said that the people who are screaming in pain aren't really in pain at all, and it's the quiet ones who are (bearing in mind we are talking about on the ward, not at the site of major trauma or accident site) in most need of pain relief, then I suspect that a lot of people are suffering a lot of pain in a lot of wards. God forbid in that 5 hours the dr didn't come to see you he/she was actually in resus saving some other poor soles life huh. I guess you just dont get it. Maybe you will see it from another point of view if you or a member of your family are in agony. Oh I get it your saying your more important than someone who could be needing there life saved. I've been in hospital in pain Infact I was in itu, whilst I was in pain I saw the Drs resuscitating someone I was happy waiting in pain as I saw them working for a few hours and a life was saved. As another poster said if you feel so strongly make a complaint the right way. " No, I still don’t think that you get it. To suggest that every Dr is constantly saving other people’s lives when they are not with you is disingenuous and simply wrong. As others have said, staffing issues are very important. If you think that all the Drs were off saving lives, then what if 1 extra person’s life needed saving, would they have died? Or the other side of the coin is if they have an extra Dr on the shift, then they could have saved the life, and relieved the pain of those patients who were suffering in pain. What you seem to be saying, is that is should just be expected that people should be in agony for several hours. | |||
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"There's a bunch of medical professionals here who's reply if "if you don't like it, make a complaint". This is the attitude that made me have to go private, and that attitude that caused me to have several transfusions. It's not the attitude that is acceptable of medical professionals. " Who's reply is, I mean. | |||
" God forbid in that 5 hours the dr didn't come to see you he/she was actually in resus saving some other poor soles life huh. I guess you just dont get it. Maybe you will see it from another point of view if you or a member of your family are in agony. Oh I get it your saying your more important than someone who could be needing there life saved. I've been in hospital in pain Infact I was in itu, whilst I was in pain I saw the Drs resuscitating someone I was happy waiting in pain as I saw them working for a few hours and a life was saved. As another poster said if you feel so strongly make a complaint the right way. No, I still don’t think that you get it. To suggest that every Dr is constantly saving other people’s lives when they are not with you is disingenuous and simply wrong. As others have said, staffing issues are very important. If you think that all the Drs were off saving lives, then what if 1 extra person’s life needed saving, would they have died? Or the other side of the coin is if they have an extra Dr on the shift, then they could have saved the life, and relieved the pain of those patients who were suffering in pain. What you seem to be saying, is that is should just be expected that people should be in agony for several hours." OP what do you think they're doing when they're not with you? It's not OK that patients are left in pain. It's not OK that there are not enough staff to ensure all patients get the required treatment. It's not OK that doctors and nurses have to spend an inordinate amount of time making contemporaneous notes of every patient encounter, preventing them from seeing the next on the list. It's not OK that you have one doctor covering 120 beds and has to decide between seeing the patients with cardiac arrest, massive GI bleed, acute asthma attack, meningitis and a DKA (all of which are potentially fatal) meanwhile leaving multiple patients desperate for pain relief and a psychotic patient trying to kill the nursing staff. This is why doctors and nurses are leaving in droves. It's just impossible to give every patient the care they need with the resources available. This is a big part of the junior doctors strike. It cannot go on any more. Don't make a complaint. The answer is to vote for people who will stop cuts to the NHS budget and improve staffing. | |||
"There's a bunch of medical professionals here who's reply if "if you don't like it, make a complaint". This is the attitude that made me have to go private, and that attitude that caused me to have several transfusions. It's not the attitude that is acceptable of medical professionals. " and others saying that making a complaint is completely useless. If you buy a tv and it doesn't work, you complain and get your money back. If you are caused hours of agony and you complain, how can they make that better? | |||
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"Why are patients who are screaming in agony just left to scream on wards? Is the response "you've already had your meds" good enough for people in severe pain and suffering? " But if you have already had your meds I am not sure having another dose is something they can do. | |||
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"There's a bunch of medical professionals here who's reply if "if you don't like it, make a complaint". This is the attitude that made me have to go private, and that attitude that caused me to have several transfusions. It's not the attitude that is acceptable of medical professionals. and others saying that making a complaint is completely useless. If you buy a tv and it doesn't work, you complain and get your money back. If you are caused hours of agony and you complain, how can they make that better? "Might try taking the 1982 model, seldom repaired and badly mistreated TV in my granddad's garage back to the store to complain it no longer works. See if the stockist manages to refrain from asking me 'what the hell do you expect?'. | |||
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"There's a bunch of medical professionals here who's reply if "if you don't like it, make a complaint". This is the attitude that made me have to go private, and that attitude that caused me to have several transfusions. It's not the attitude that is acceptable of medical professionals. " But if there's no complaint there wont be a change. Without a complaint to raise the issue the people in charge are happily going along assuming everything is working fine | |||
"Those dastardly medical professionals are so uncaring. " Well those tape recordings from that guys surgery sure showed they are. Although with it being america he got half a million in damages after sueing then for it. | |||
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"There's a bunch of medical professionals here who's reply if "if you don't like it, make a complaint". This is the attitude that made me have to go private, and that attitude that caused me to have several transfusions. It's not the attitude that is acceptable of medical professionals. " Yes it is acceptable! If people don't air their concerns the right way how will things ever change and the small proportion who shouldn't be in the job found out or errors rectified. Just because I feel the person should make a complaint the right way doesn't mean I'm shit at my job and don't care, Infact I'm the total opposite I love my job and care I provide is paramount to me. | |||
"There's a bunch of medical professionals here who's reply if "if you don't like it, make a complaint". This is the attitude that made me have to go private, and that attitude that caused me to have several transfusions. It's not the attitude that is acceptable of medical professionals. But if there's no complaint there wont be a change. Without a complaint to raise the issue the people in charge are happily going along assuming everything is working fine" If a medical professional acknowledged my comment/question with "if you don't like it, make a complaint" there'd be 2 made. One for lack of competence and one for shit interpersonal skills. | |||
"There's a bunch of medical professionals here who's reply if "if you don't like it, make a complaint". This is the attitude that made me have to go private, and that attitude that caused me to have several transfusions. It's not the attitude that is acceptable of medical professionals. Yes it is acceptable! If people don't air their concerns the right way how will things ever change and the small proportion who shouldn't be in the job found out or errors rectified. Just because I feel the person should make a complaint the right way doesn't mean I'm shit at my job and don't care, Infact I'm the total opposite I love my job and care I provide is paramount to me. " Fobbing someone off with comments similar to "make a complaint then and stop talking about it" isn't acceptable, but I wouldn't expect any different from someone with your social skills. | |||
"I won't hear a bad word said about them - plus, they're great fun, in and out of, bed! Well, it is a swinger's site - what did you expect me to say?" | |||
"There's a bunch of medical professionals here who's reply if "if you don't like it, make a complaint". This is the attitude that made me have to go private, and that attitude that caused me to have several transfusions. It's not the attitude that is acceptable of medical professionals. Yes it is acceptable! If people don't air their concerns the right way how will things ever change and the small proportion who shouldn't be in the job found out or errors rectified. Just because I feel the person should make a complaint the right way doesn't mean I'm shit at my job and don't care, Infact I'm the total opposite I love my job and care I provide is paramount to me. Fobbing someone off with comments similar to "make a complaint then and stop talking about it" isn't acceptable, but I wouldn't expect any different from someone with your social skills. " Ha ha you are really something just because you don't agree with what I'm saying no need to act like a spoilt princess and a cut above on your high horse there is nothing wrong with my social skills maybe you should focus more on yours?. If people have a bad experience in the NHS they should complain it's the only way things will change. | |||
"There's a bunch of medical professionals here who's reply if "if you don't like it, make a complaint". This is the attitude that made me have to go private, and that attitude that caused me to have several transfusions. It's not the attitude that is acceptable of medical professionals. Yes it is acceptable! If people don't air their concerns the right way how will things ever change and the small proportion who shouldn't be in the job found out or errors rectified. Just because I feel the person should make a complaint the right way doesn't mean I'm shit at my job and don't care, Infact I'm the total opposite I love my job and care I provide is paramount to me. Fobbing someone off with comments similar to "make a complaint then and stop talking about it" isn't acceptable, but I wouldn't expect any different from someone with your social skills. Ha ha you are really something just because you don't agree with what I'm saying no need to act like a spoilt princess and a cut above on your high horse there is nothing wrong with my social skills maybe you should focus more on yours?. If people have a bad experience in the NHS they should complain it's the only way things will change. " No, I have experienced maltreatment and having complaints ignored by PALS. It doesn't mean your response to the OP isn't curt and lacking in interpersonal skills. To use the same example as someone else, it's the equivalent of going to complain to a shop about a dodgy purchase and being told "what do you want from me? Speak to head office, I don't care". It's a shitty attitude but, again, I'm not surprised it's one you have. | |||
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"There's a bunch of medical professionals here who's reply if "if you don't like it, make a complaint". This is the attitude that made me have to go private, and that attitude that caused me to have several transfusions. It's not the attitude that is acceptable of medical professionals. Yes it is acceptable! If people don't air their concerns the right way how will things ever change and the small proportion who shouldn't be in the job found out or errors rectified. Just because I feel the person should make a complaint the right way doesn't mean I'm shit at my job and don't care, Infact I'm the total opposite I love my job and care I provide is paramount to me. Fobbing someone off with comments similar to "make a complaint then and stop talking about it" isn't acceptable, but I wouldn't expect any different from someone with your social skills. Ha ha you are really something just because you don't agree with what I'm saying no need to act like a spoilt princess and a cut above on your high horse there is nothing wrong with my social skills maybe you should focus more on yours?. If people have a bad experience in the NHS they should complain it's the only way things will change. No, I have experienced maltreatment and having complaints ignored by PALS. It doesn't mean your response to the OP isn't curt and lacking in interpersonal skills. To use the same example as someone else, it's the equivalent of going to complain to a shop about a dodgy purchase and being told "what do you want from me? Speak to head office, I don't care". It's a shitty attitude but, again, I'm not surprised it's one you have. " I've no idea why your being such a bitch to be honest or singling me out because I've said make a complaint the right way. It says more about you than me. The NHS makes failings everyday but unless people highlight them and complain nothing will be done. | |||
"OK lets be civil and not get personal "Uh-ohhhh
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"There's a bunch of medical professionals here who's reply if "if you don't like it, make a complaint". This is the attitude that made me have to go private, and that attitude that caused me to have several transfusions. It's not the attitude that is acceptable of medical professionals. Yes it is acceptable! If people don't air their concerns the right way how will things ever change and the small proportion who shouldn't be in the job found out or errors rectified. Just because I feel the person should make a complaint the right way doesn't mean I'm shit at my job and don't care, Infact I'm the total opposite I love my job and care I provide is paramount to me. Fobbing someone off with comments similar to "make a complaint then and stop talking about it" isn't acceptable, but I wouldn't expect any different from someone with your social skills. Ha ha you are really something just because you don't agree with what I'm saying no need to act like a spoilt princess and a cut above on your high horse there is nothing wrong with my social skills maybe you should focus more on yours?. If people have a bad experience in the NHS they should complain it's the only way things will change. No, I have experienced maltreatment and having complaints ignored by PALS. It doesn't mean your response to the OP isn't curt and lacking in interpersonal skills. To use the same example as someone else, it's the equivalent of going to complain to a shop about a dodgy purchase and being told "what do you want from me? Speak to head office, I don't care". It's a shitty attitude but, again, I'm not surprised it's one you have. I've no idea why your being such a bitch to be honest or singling me out because I've said make a complaint the right way. It says more about you than me. The NHS makes failings everyday but unless people highlight them and complain nothing will be done. " I'm not singling you out, you replied to me. I am replying to you. Perhaps don't reply to me if you're going to call me a bitch for responding? | |||
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"To think... people say I talk to people like they are shit... ..funny old world eh? Hey ruggers I will take the 24 or 48 its up to you "Break some rules and you are on | |||
"To think... people say I talk to people like they are shit... ..funny old world eh? Hey ruggers I will take the 24 or 48 its up to you
Break some rules and you are on "Ruggers, dear ruggers, I genuinely fear that were you to ban me for any length of time you would feel it the pinnacle of moderation and leave us, and I just can't allow that.... therefore, I will toe the line.... See that sky today? Talk about blue.... | |||
"To think... people say I talk to people like they are shit... ..funny old world eh? Hey ruggers I will take the 24 or 48 its up to you "You made potentially racist comments and called people names or just replied angrily at them for responding too. You also entered the thread with a chip on your shoulder, before anyone had said anything to you. | |||
"To think... people say I talk to people like they are shit... ..funny old world eh? Hey ruggers I will take the 24 or 48 its up to you
Break some rules and you are on
Ruggers, dear ruggers, I genuinely fear that were you to ban me for any length of time you would feel it the pinnacle of moderation and leave us, and I just can't allow that.... therefore, I will toe the line....
See that sky today? Talk about blue...."There will be lots of people shouting for me to ban you now so I would have to leave 
The sky has been gorgeous and blue, a lovely day that should make people smile a bit | |||
"To think... people say I talk to people like they are shit... ..funny old world eh? Hey ruggers I will take the 24 or 48 its up to you
You made potentially racist comments and called people names or just replied angrily at them for responding too. You also entered the thread with a chip on your shoulder, before anyone had said anything to you. "exsqueeze me? I presented a number of government documents detailing STDS, Population and Gender. Please don't call me a racist. I responded reasonably in each case, as I was called a racist time and time ago; only one person insulted me.... guess who that was? | |||
"To think... people say I talk to people like they are shit... ..funny old world eh? Hey ruggers I will take the 24 or 48 its up to you
You made potentially racist comments and called people names or just replied angrily at them for responding too. You also entered the thread with a chip on your shoulder, before anyone had said anything to you.
exsqueeze me?
I presented a number of government documents detailing STDS, Population and Gender. Please don't call me a racist. I responded reasonably in each case, as I was called a racist time and time ago; only one person insulted me.... guess who that was?"oh and ethnicity not gender, my bad.... | |||
" But if you have already had your meds I am not sure having another dose is something they can do." This cuts to the very heart of it I think. If they have done all they can to deal with your medical issue and they have given all the pain meds they can short of giving you an OD then what else do you want them to do? Leave other people unattended so they can sit and hold your hand? I've been very fortunate with my health and have only been to hospital when I arrived in an ambulance after busting myself up one way or another. Once they straighten stuff out, stitch and bolt what they have and dose you up on pain meds if your still hurting all you can do is suck it up, buttercup. | |||
"To think... people say I talk to people like they are shit... ..funny old world eh? Hey ruggers I will take the 24 or 48 its up to you
You made potentially racist comments and called people names or just replied angrily at them for responding too. You also entered the thread with a chip on your shoulder, before anyone had said anything to you.
exsqueeze me?
I presented a number of government documents detailing STDS, Population and Gender. Please don't call me a racist. I responded reasonably in each case, as I was called a racist time and time ago; only one person insulted me.... guess who that was?
oh and ethnicity not gender, my bad...."I didn't call you a racist, I just think you didn't reply nicely to people and you didn't seem to understand that so I pointed it out. Also the post was why someone wouldn't sleep with someone who had historically fucked a non white person and not why they'd not sleep with a non white person, which makes your statistics heavy response redundant. Anyway, if you're being called racist by others it's probably because the stuff you're saying is potentially racist. | |||
"There's a bunch of medical professionals here who's reply if "if you don't like it, make a complaint". This is the attitude that made me have to go private, and that attitude that caused me to have several transfusions. It's not the attitude that is acceptable of medical professionals. But if there's no complaint there wont be a change. Without a complaint to raise the issue the people in charge are happily going along assuming everything is working fine If a medical professional acknowledged my comment/question with "if you don't like it, make a complaint" there'd be 2 made. One for lack of competence and one for shit interpersonal skills. " Except they really said. "I'm passionate about patient care if you don't like the way you were treated complain the right way rather than tar all NHS professionals the same way." Which actually is very reasonable. | |||
"To think... people say I talk to people like they are shit... ..funny old world eh? Hey ruggers I will take the 24 or 48 its up to you
You made potentially racist comments and called people names or just replied angrily at them for responding too. You also entered the thread with a chip on your shoulder, before anyone had said anything to you.
exsqueeze me?
I presented a number of government documents detailing STDS, Population and Gender. Please don't call me a racist. I responded reasonably in each case, as I was called a racist time and time ago; only one person insulted me.... guess who that was?
oh and ethnicity not gender, my bad....
I didn't call you a racist, I just think you didn't reply nicely to people and you didn't seem to understand that so I pointed it out. Also the post was why someone wouldn't sleep with someone who had historically fucked a non white person and not why they'd not sleep with a non white person, which makes your statistics heavy response redundant.
Anyway, if you're being called racist by others it's probably because the stuff you're saying is potentially racist."erm... no it doesn't but that was another thread... along time ago... I didn't talk to people like shit; many people sent me PMs with a  afterwards... but hey ho..
I am sure that for every out of context message, there is offense; for every outrage, their is innocence and for every debate, there is opportunity to take a break from the keyboard, or just let it lie......
Be beautiful
Paul x | |||
" But if you have already had your meds I am not sure having another dose is something they can do. This cuts to the very heart of it I think. If they have done all they can to deal with your medical issue and they have given all the pain meds they can short of giving you an OD then what else do you want them to do? Leave other people unattended so they can sit and hold your hand? I've been very fortunate with my health and have only been to hospital when I arrived in an ambulance after busting myself up one way or another. Once they straighten stuff out, stitch and bolt what they have and dose you up on pain meds if your still hurting all you can do is suck it up, buttercup. " I don't think it's imperceivable that a person is just forgotten about or not a priority, despite being in a huge amount of post op pain. Or that someone didn't just say "you've had the maximum dosage allowed, you'll have to wait" instead of allowing the patient to scream out without acknowledgement? | |||
"To think... people say I talk to people like they are shit... ..funny old world eh? Hey ruggers I will take the 24 or 48 its up to you
You made potentially racist comments and called people names or just replied angrily at them for responding too. You also entered the thread with a chip on your shoulder, before anyone had said anything to you.
exsqueeze me?
I presented a number of government documents detailing STDS, Population and Gender. Please don't call me a racist. I responded reasonably in each case, as I was called a racist time and time ago; only one person insulted me.... guess who that was?
oh and ethnicity not gender, my bad....
I didn't call you a racist, I just think you didn't reply nicely to people and you didn't seem to understand that so I pointed it out. Also the post was why someone wouldn't sleep with someone who had historically fucked a non white person and not why they'd not sleep with a non white person, which makes your statistics heavy response redundant.
Anyway, if you're being called racist by others it's probably because the stuff you're saying is potentially racist.
erm... no it doesn't but that was another thread... along time ago... I didn't talk to people like shit; many people sent me PMs with a afterwards... but hey ho..
I am sure that for every out of context message, there is offense; for every outrage, their is innocence and for every debate, there is opportunity to take a break from the keyboard, or just let it lie......
Be beautiful
Paul x"I'm sure. Why even bring it up if you don't wish for a response? It just appears to be yet another chip on your shoulder | |||
"To think... people say I talk to people like they are shit... ..funny old world eh? Hey ruggers I will take the 24 or 48 its up to you
You made potentially racist comments and called people names or just replied angrily at them for responding too. You also entered the thread with a chip on your shoulder, before anyone had said anything to you.
exsqueeze me?
I presented a number of government documents detailing STDS, Population and Gender. Please don't call me a racist. I responded reasonably in each case, as I was called a racist time and time ago; only one person insulted me.... guess who that was?
oh and ethnicity not gender, my bad....
I didn't call you a racist, I just think you didn't reply nicely to people and you didn't seem to understand that so I pointed it out. Also the post was why someone wouldn't sleep with someone who had historically fucked a non white person and not why they'd not sleep with a non white person, which makes your statistics heavy response redundant.
Anyway, if you're being called racist by others it's probably because the stuff you're saying is potentially racist.
erm... no it doesn't but that was another thread... along time ago... I didn't talk to people like shit; many people sent me PMs with a afterwards... but hey ho..
I am sure that for every out of context message, there is offense; for every outrage, their is innocence and for every debate, there is opportunity to take a break from the keyboard, or just let it lie......
Be beautiful
Paul x
I'm sure. Why even bring it up if you don't wish for a response? It just appears to be yet another chip on your shoulder "No I was initially commenting on the duplicity of the forums..... Happy Swinging xx | |||
"To think... people say I talk to people like they are shit... ..funny old world eh? Hey ruggers I will take the 24 or 48 its up to you
You made potentially racist comments and called people names or just replied angrily at them for responding too. You also entered the thread with a chip on your shoulder, before anyone had said anything to you.
exsqueeze me?
I presented a number of government documents detailing STDS, Population and Gender. Please don't call me a racist. I responded reasonably in each case, as I was called a racist time and time ago; only one person insulted me.... guess who that was?
oh and ethnicity not gender, my bad....
I didn't call you a racist, I just think you didn't reply nicely to people and you didn't seem to understand that so I pointed it out. Also the post was why someone wouldn't sleep with someone who had historically fucked a non white person and not why they'd not sleep with a non white person, which makes your statistics heavy response redundant.
Anyway, if you're being called racist by others it's probably because the stuff you're saying is potentially racist.
erm... no it doesn't but that was another thread... along time ago... I didn't talk to people like shit; many people sent me PMs with a afterwards... but hey ho..
I am sure that for every out of context message, there is offense; for every outrage, their is innocence and for every debate, there is opportunity to take a break from the keyboard, or just let it lie......
Be beautiful
Paul x
I'm sure. Why even bring it up if you don't wish for a response? It just appears to be yet another chip on your shoulder
No I was initially commenting on the duplicity of the forums.....
Happy Swinging xx"God, it doesn't mean your comments couldn't have been perceived as racist or that your rising anger in that thread wasn't perceived as talking to people like shit. Maybe go back to not posting if you're so unhappy, or at least stop posting about me/replying to me. | |||
"If this is something you have witnessed you should address your concerns with senior staff/modern matron. " I have witnessed and also experienced shocking treatment the 14 day complaint procedure is now on-going 3 months There seem to be a lack of educated/fully trained staff at my local hospital, thank god I had private medical cover for back up | |||
" I don't think it's imperceivable that a person is just forgotten about or not a priority, despite being in a huge amount of post op pain. Or that someone didn't just say "you've had the maximum dosage allowed, you'll have to wait" instead of allowing the patient to scream out without acknowledgement?" True. It's all dependent on the circumstances at the time. I spent 11 weeks in reaction on a ward years ago after a bad bike accident and saw all sorts of stuff going on. People in genuine pain coping the best they could and sometimes not coping well at all. And at the other end of spectrum, people who were fine and dandy ten minutes before when they had some dinner to be getting stuck into or a visitor to chat to and as soon as they were left alone and bored, screaming the ward down that they were in agony and needed all the attention they could get. Takes all sorts. | |||
"Why are patients who are screaming in agony just left to scream on wards? Is the response "you've already had your meds" good enough for people in severe pain and suffering? " It can take time for drugs to kick-in Dosage can be dependent on other factors (alcohol in system, other prescription meds, age and general health) I am sure that most people that work in the NHS don't want someone yelling in pain throughout their entire shift, but sometimes biology and chemistry get in the way of removing that pain... short of inducing a coma, what else can they do? | |||
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" I don't think it's imperceivable that a person is just forgotten about or not a priority, despite being in a huge amount of post op pain. Or that someone didn't just say "you've had the maximum dosage allowed, you'll have to wait" instead of allowing the patient to scream out without acknowledgement? True. It's all dependent on the circumstances at the time. I spent 11 weeks in reaction on a ward years ago after a bad bike accident and saw all sorts of stuff going on. People in genuine pain coping the best they could and sometimes not coping well at all. And at the other end of spectrum, people who were fine and dandy ten minutes before when they had some dinner to be getting stuck into or a visitor to chat to and as soon as they were left alone and bored, screaming the ward down that they were in agony and needed all the attention they could get. Takes all sorts. " That's true, there's definitely drug seeking behaviour on wards, but purely going on my own experience as evidence, I didn't want to get high, I just wanted relief when part of my bladder was removed as the buscopan the consultant on the ward prescribed wasn't even touching the pain. And my relative just wanted ibuprofen (not even opiates) for the first time that day for her broken femur. And the lady opposite my nan hadn't had any pain relief, except paracetamol, in almost 12 hours. I reckon sometimes the care side of things is forgotten about, and patients are treated as cases as opposed to human beings with feelings. | |||
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"S has already posted here, but I don't have the willpower to avoid putting in my two cents. Sorry for the essay! I am a healthcare professional. I have worked in nursing, medical and social care so I have plenty of experience. I also care. A LOT. I feel awful about some of the experiences that have been described in this thread. However, I'm offended (quite personally, actually) that there is so much animosity on this thread. In general, we all care. We all want the best for our patients, which is for them not to be ill and not need to come to see us! Obviously there will be exceptions, I grant you - consider though, that these are people who have trained for years, accruing quite significant debts in some cases. Do you imagine many would do that if they didn't care? So for me, that concludes the argument that staff don't care. It is just not true. And personally, to imagine that the next patient I see will assume I don't care about their welfare is quite upsetting. As for the argument that patients can be 'forgotten'. In fairness, that is true. I've done it. I've run down a ward to fetch something and been pulled away by a patient falling out of bed, the confused patient spilling hot tea, someone shouting that they need something I've told them they can't have...and what did I want to go and do? I've forgotten. And I apologise for that. But we're human - we try our best, but sometimes it goes wrong. And when it does go wrong, we need complaints to be made through the correct channels so that they can be used to better inform our practice in future. I don't know about the process and what feedback you will receive as a result of making a complaint, but trust me, I've sat in lunchtime meetings (yep, thats our breaktime by the way) where we are told about the times we have gone wrong and what we will do to make it better. As a side note, pain management is complex. What you can and can't have isn't as simple as 'take another pill if that one doesn't help'. Please trust our years of training that we do know what we are talking about when we say this. If you don't, then please please make a complaint through the correct channels as publicly tarring every hospital department with this black brush of neglect and malpractice is damaging to patients, relatives and staff. " | |||
