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ADHD is it just an excuse for badly behaved children?

By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

ADHD:

Is it an excuse that people tend to use because they have badly behaved disrespectful children and are embarrassed to admit its because they have poor parenting skills etc?

Or a real medical condition?

Doctors are now saying it's not a medical condition. But just a term that's commonly used to describe unruly badly behaved children. And meds are being prescribed unnecessarily.

Any thoughts on this Fabbers ?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

It's a medical condition.

Have you ever met a child with ADHD and really spent time with them?

Where have they said it doesn't exist?

Do you have a link?

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By *adyboy-DaddyCouple over a year ago

Andover

Knowing nothing about kids, I suspect it's a bit of both.

I wouldn't want to suggest it's all rubbish as there is probably some good evednce to support a number of childhood conditions but I am certain that many use it as an excuse for letting their kids run riot.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I think some parents are desperate to diagnose their poorly behaved child with an illness instead of accepting responsibility.

ADHD still exists and it still affects families.

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By *enuinedannyMan over a year ago

walsall

"I think some parents are desperate to diagnose their poorly behaved child with an illness instead of accepting responsibility.

ADHD still exists and it still affects families. "

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By *enard ArgenteMan over a year ago

London and France

ADHD is very real

However, it is used as an excuse by some people to deny their own responsibility for their children.

That, unfortunately, dilutes the help available to those who really have it, and need help,

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"It's a medical condition.

Have you ever met a child with ADHD and really spent time with them?

Where have they said it doesn't exist?

Do you have a link?"

Loads of links on Google about it by Doctors.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I heard a doctor say (jokingly) that rather than prescribing ritalin to kids, teachers should be given speed

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By *uvesmuffinCouple over a year ago

Barking

"I think some parents are desperate to diagnose their poorly behaved child with an illness instead of accepting responsibility.

ADHD still exists and it still affects families. "

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Please also be aware that adults suffer from ADHD too. It's not just something that magically disappears when these kids grow up.

Kids and adults have to learn to manage it as they get older. It's hard work for the child and hard work for the parent and perpetuating this myth that it doesn't exist damages sufferers and their families to an enormous degree.

My kids have something a bit different. And the hardest thing is the "looks" I get.

My son has behaviour problems so challenging that most special schools are unsuitable for him. But because he's verbal and quite bright, people assume he can't have a serious behavioural disability.

Have a read about executive functioning skills. Everyone has these to different degrees. We are born with them at different levels.

Would you ever blame the parents of a child suffering from cancer? Would you blame poor parenting for a child who can't walk? Find out about it, spend time with these families before you pass judgement.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

When you have lived with it. Yourself or your child then you will know the answer to the question. Its usually the older generation that say bad behaved

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By *uxom redCouple over a year ago

Shrewsbury

"ADHD:

Is it an excuse that people tend to use because they have badly behaved disrespectful children and are embarrassed to admit its because they have poor parenting skills etc?

Or a real medical condition?

Doctors are now saying it's not a medical condition. But just a term that's commonly used to describe unruly badly behaved children. And meds are being prescribed unnecessarily.

Any thoughts on this Fabbers ?

Not all people with Adhd are badly behaved or disrespectful.

I'm guessing the op has had very little contact with anyone who has adhd.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"It's a medical condition.

Have you ever met a child with ADHD and really spent time with them?

Where have they said it doesn't exist?

Do you have a link?

Loads of links on Google about it by Doctors."

Send me a link in a message and I'll tell you why it's wrong.

I'm also an ex teacher.

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By *laskan lovers 1984Couple over a year ago

West midlands

Don't judge unless you have a child with Adhd

It a lack of chromosome in the brain

And it affects normal strict families too

We are a strict family with rules and boundaries

As all ready had other older children

Then having a child with Adhd

Had to be tested and different scans

Was a nightmare

But over time and many years later St the end of tunnel

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

It's definitely a medical condition...

My son was diagnosed with ADHD when he was 8 but he was never naughty as in badly behaved and his behaviour whilst out was always exemplary, and still is I might add...

He was classed as a chair kicker at school as he used to distract other children from their studies but his main diagnosis was regarding his impulsiveness which means he is a danger to himself...

This is controlled with medication (not Ritalin) so that he can concentrate during school hours...

If you have a link to back your claims up I'd like to see it

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By *uxom redCouple over a year ago

Shrewsbury

"It's a medical condition.

Have you ever met a child with ADHD and really spent time with them?

Where have they said it doesn't exist?

Do you have a link?

Loads of links on Google about it by Doctors."

So that would be a no you don't have a link.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Don't judge unless you have a child with Adhd

It a lack of chromosome in the brain

And it affects normal strict families too

We are a strict family with rules and boundaries

As all ready had other older children

Then having a child with Adhd

Had to be tested and different scans

Was a nightmare

But over time and many years later St the end of tunnel "

How can one lack a chromosome in just the brain?

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By *rlicker123Man over a year ago

gillingham kent

I watched a film the other night EDEN LAKE 2008 watch it then tell me its a medical condition .

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By *ushandkittyCouple over a year ago

Gloucester

Next doors kid went for tests to see if he had ADHD, turns out he's just a cunt!!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I know a number of families with children who have ADHD. Plus I also know a few families who I doubt have ADHD are are just unruly children. I belive you can see the difference. I also think that ADHD goes hand in hand with other problems like autism. Xxx

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By *uxom redCouple over a year ago

Shrewsbury

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Adhd gets u more benefits. Enough said.

Children learn from adults

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By *laskan lovers 1984Couple over a year ago

West midlands

There are other drugs compared to ritalin

That give the child a chance to function at school

Plus it's other factors that also come with Adhd

Lack of sleep as there brains active night and day

Unable to have friends and go to child parties

And larger places and too many people in areas

So don't be ignorant and judge till you seen a child

Or had your own

Or no what others go though every day

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I think some parents are desperate to diagnose their poorly behaved child with an illness instead of accepting responsibility.

ADHD still exists and it still affects families. "

Yep. I agree.

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By *etter the devil you knowWoman over a year ago

Lyndhurst

"Adhd gets u more benefits. Enough said.

Children learn from adults "

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Adhd gets u more benefits. Enough said.

Children learn from adults "

Wtf

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By *ervent_fervourMan over a year ago

Halifax

Defo a medical condition.

Modern technology/lifestyles/ diets don't help either.

Will try to dig out some of research so it's not just anecdotal if I have time.

The vast majority of the time teachers(for example) can differentiate between ADHD and just unruly.

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By *piritsonfabCouple over a year ago

Nottingham

I imagine it's real but over diagnosed in boys who just need to be able to let off steam properly.

IE outside, lots of physical exercise all day every day. Which you don't get at a school. Asking an active boy to sit in a chair all day, whether ADHD or not, is a recipe for trouble.

School exacerbates a whole lot of problems in children.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Defo a medical condition.

Modern technology/lifestyles/ diets don't help either.

Will try to dig out some of research so it's not just anecdotal if I have time.

The vast majority of the time teachers(for example) can differentiate between ADHD and just unruly."

It was a teacher who came to me and said maybe I should see about getting my son diagnosed as she was aware of other children with similar traits..

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By *izbitMan over a year ago

St Helens

Having worked with a variety of young people then yes can see the point some pressure for misdiagnosis and are unable to put a parenting structure in place but on the other hand there are medical conditions that contribute my heart goes out to those unable to get support and loathe the fashion of self diagnosis that dose nothing for those with genuine need

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Some kids are just horrible fuckers who grow up to be horrible fuckers iv actually seen it from school to adulthood,but i dont know enough about this subject tbh

So im going to learn something today

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Some kids are just horrible fuckers who grow up to be horrible fuckers iv actually seen it from school to adulthood,but i dont know enough about this subject tbh

So im going to learn something today"

Or maybe not now

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I imagine it's real but over diagnosed in boys who just need to be able to let off steam properly.

IE outside, lots of physical exercise all day every day. Which you don't get at a school. Asking an active boy to sit in a chair all day, whether ADHD or not, is a recipe for trouble.

School exacerbates a whole lot of problems in children."

What about outside school?

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By *ampara2Woman over a year ago

biggleswade

"ADHD:

Is it an excuse that people tend to use because they have badly behaved disrespectful children and are embarrassed to admit its because they have poor parenting skills etc?

Or a real medical condition?

Doctors are now saying it's not a medical condition. But just a term that's commonly used to describe unruly badly behaved children. And meds are being prescribed unnecessarily.

Any thoughts on this Fabbers ?

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my grandson has adhd and is on the autistic spectrum i'm afraid its very real indeed sadly,he copes with school very badly it terrifies him also he hates change,he will only eat from a certain plate or drink from a certain cup he is very intelligent but lacks the necessary skills to apply it,he doesn't sleep adhd /autism is very real!!

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By *ervent_fervourMan over a year ago

Halifax

"I imagine it's real but over diagnosed in boys who just need to be able to let off steam properly.

IE outside, lots of physical exercise all day every day. Which you don't get at a school. Asking an active boy to sit in a chair all day, whether ADHD or not, is a recipe for trouble.

School exacerbates a whole lot of problems in children.

What about outside school? "

Indeed. Kids do more exercise in school than ever before.

I'd imagine that it's the complete opposite outside school.

Not to mention how kids even get to and from school compared to years ago.

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By *urvymamaWoman over a year ago

Doncaster

I have worked with children diagnosed with ADHD as well as those on the autistic spectrum, mis behaviour is only one side effect of those conditions there are many other most more prominent

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"ADHD:

Is it an excuse that people tend to use because they have badly behaved disrespectful children and are embarrassed to admit its because they have poor parenting skills etc?

Or a real medical condition?

Doctors are now saying it's not a medical condition. But just a term that's commonly used to describe unruly badly behaved children. And meds are being prescribed unnecessarily.

Any thoughts on this Fabbers ?

my grandson has adhd and is on the autistic spectrum i'm afraid its very real indeed sadly,he copes with school very badly it terrifies him also he hates change,he will only eat from a certain plate or drink from a certain cup he is very intelligent but lacks the necessary skills to apply it,he doesn't sleep adhd /autism is very real!!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I can't put the link on here but there's a fantastic charity here in north Wales that helps families with children on the spectrum. If anyone what's the link on me? Can I say what the charity is called without being banned? Xx

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Yes I do believe ADHD is an illness but I do think that some doctors etc are lazy and just diagnose some kids with the condition.

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By *uck princess and himCouple over a year ago

washington

ADHD in children and adults is so misunderstood, 2 nephews, 1 from my side 1 from the hubby's side both have ADHD (diagnosed).

I don't even think even professionals properly understand it.

My side of the family have fought so hard to get help for him, he can't focus, if he does he becomes obsessed, he doesn't sleep and is never ever tired, finds it extremely difficult just to look at people never mind say hello.

He has no friends other than one in particular who he tries his absolute best to be nice too but, if he needs to say something to this friend of his, he has too...even if it causes his friend to be upset because that's how it is.

However, hubby's side went to 3 appointments, diagnosed straight away, sleeping meds the lot!

All over Facebook how she can't cope etc...he works it something rotten.

comes to ours and what do you know... rules!, we have 2 children and can't put up with teen shit just yet, he communicates or he gets sweet f.a

he uses manners, he is nice to his cousins and he can hold quite a decent conversation and have a laugh mostly about football like but hey ho...

I've asked him in the past why he's 'naughty' for his mam and he simply shrugs his shoulders and gives a huffy look.

if I did this to the nephew from my side it would create all out war, if he even aknowledges me being around him. He nor I don't see his behaviour as naughty, he's just overloaded.

The other one.... spoilt bloody rotten... both on same type of meds. Why?

Huge spectrum or easier to ply with meds instead of dealing with a badly behaved child?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I think it's real but it's not the problem we are lead to think. Lazy parenting and doctors that don't care enough are also to blame for lots of kids been diagnosed with it who aren't.

My nephew apparently has it, he only ever shows the conditon in front of his mother. I've had him for a full week with not one symptom shown, the second she shows up he went back to the attitude and trouble causing. He is most definitely not ADHD yet prescribed and treated as he is. Not fair on the lad.

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By *uck princess and himCouple over a year ago

washington

"I think it's real but it's not the problem we are lead to think. Lazy parenting and doctors that don't care enough are also to blame for lots of kids been diagnosed with it who aren't.

Exactly the same as our nephew from the hubby's side, wouldn't dream of acting like he does at home in our home.. no way!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Excuse

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

My nephew was diagnosed with ADHD. He was disruptive in school/lashed out at others. He was a very polite wee boy. It took a while for the diagnoses to come through but with the right medication he calmed dwn. If a day passed with him not taking his meds my sister in law knew all about it.I reckon there are lots of kids out there with the condition and parents are afraid of having them diagnosed due to them being labelled.

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By *iamondjoeMan over a year ago

Glastonbury

OP has not exactly covered himself in glory on this one.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"ADHD in children and adults is so misunderstood, 2 nephews, 1 from my side 1 from the hubby's side both have ADHD (diagnosed).