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By *B9 Queen OP   Woman  over a year ago

Over the rainbow, under the bridge

The Sun is still boycotted 26 years after the tragedy. It's unlikely this will change. Many newsagents refuse to even stock it.

Will anyone be either continuing to boycott it or begin to in the light of the decision in court today?

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By *B9 Queen OP   Woman  over a year ago

Over the rainbow, under the bridge

Many newsagents in Liverpool that is.

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By *abioMan  over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

only if the sun spend the same about of pages on the apology as they did smearing the good people who did nothing wrong.....

starting on page 1 with the headline on page 1 "sorry, we got this one wrong ... big time"

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"only if the sun spend the same about of pages on the apology as they did smearing the good people who did nothing wrong.....

starting on page 1 with the headline on page 1 "sorry, we got this one wrong ... big time"

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They already did that some time ago ..

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By *dsindyTV/TS  over a year ago

East Lancashire

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"only if the sun spend the same about of pages on the apology as they did smearing the good people who did nothing wrong.....

starting on page 1 with the headline on page 1 "sorry, we got this one wrong ... big time"

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Good answer Fabio.

All my acquaintances in Liverpool won't even mention the Sun, I'm still surprised people read it generally, but in Liverpool it's still a big deal. Worth avoiding

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By *olgateMan  over a year ago

on the road to nowhere in particular

I didn't boycott it over Hillsboro, I boycotted it over pushing Murdochs political agenda and the phone bugging scandal

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By *B9 Queen OP   Woman  over a year ago

Over the rainbow, under the bridge


"only if the sun spend the same about of pages on the apology as they did smearing the good people who did nothing wrong.....

starting on page 1 with the headline on page 1 "sorry, we got this one wrong ... big time"

They already did that some time ago .. "

And Kelvin Mackenzie then later retracted his apology citing murdoch forcing him to do it.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"only if the sun spend the same about of pages on the apology as they did smearing the good people who did nothing wrong.....

starting on page 1 with the headline on page 1 "sorry, we got this one wrong ... big time"

They already did that some time ago ..

And Kelvin Mackenzie then later retracted his apology citing murdoch forcing him to do it. "

Ah did he? I wasn't aware of that

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By *B9 Queen OP   Woman  over a year ago

Over the rainbow, under the bridge


"I didn't boycott it over Hillsboro, I boycotted it over pushing Murdochs political agenda and the phone bugging scandal "

I boycotted it because it was crap and an affront to people's intelligence.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I didn't boycott it over Hillsboro, I boycotted it over pushing Murdochs political agenda and the phone bugging scandal "
....I would just be afraid someone I know saw me reading it....

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By *onathan14Man  over a year ago

Liverpool

DON'T BUY THE SUN..

Question answered

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By *abioMan  over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

i think it is quite telling that a lot of the redtops.... mirror, guardian, metro, i, have gone with it on their front pages tomorrow....

but the sun hasn't........

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By *arkstaffsMan  over a year ago

Rugeley

I doubt the scum will even run a story on this. They are too busy trying to discredit the junior doctors.

Vile rag.

RIP the 96.

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By *olgateMan  over a year ago

on the road to nowhere in particular


"I didn't boycott it over Hillsboro, I boycotted it over pushing Murdochs political agenda and the phone bugging scandal

I boycotted it because it was crap and an affront to people's intelligence. "

I don't mind having my intelligence insulted, it usually means people have underestimated me.

All newspapers have an agenda, the art is to see through that and find the real story.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"only if the sun spend the same about of pages on the apology as they did smearing the good people who did nothing wrong.....

starting on page 1 with the headline on page 1 "sorry, we got this one wrong ... big time"

They already did that some time ago ..

And Kelvin Mackenzie then later retracted his apology citing murdoch forcing him to do it.

Ah did he? I wasn't aware of that "

Yes he did after sales of the rag plummeted in Liverpool and beyond. MacKenzie then dined out on the story for years afterwards proclaiming he told the "Truth" and was made to apologise. A good friend of mine walked out of a dinner in Newcastle where MacKenzie was speaking, in utter disgust. For any of you who question us Scousers for continuing to boycott this vile rag put yourself in the families of the 96s position. Or anyone from Liverpool who were called liars thieves and scum by the very scum who facilitated the cover up.

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By *akedninjaMan  over a year ago

edinburgh

I only ever really liked the sun for the page 3 and even at that I never bought it nor would I wish to support its hate perpetuating agenda

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"only if the sun spend the same about of pages on the apology as they did smearing the good people who did nothing wrong.....

starting on page 1 with the headline on page 1 "sorry, we got this one wrong ... big time"

They already did that some time ago ..

And Kelvin Mackenzie then later retracted his apology citing murdoch forcing him to do it.

Ah did he? I wasn't aware of that

Yes he did after sales of the rag plummeted in Liverpool and beyond. MacKenzie then dined out on the story for years afterwards proclaiming he told the "Truth" and was made to apologise. A good friend of mine walked out of a dinner in Newcastle where MacKenzie was speaking, in utter disgust. For any of you who question us Scousers for continuing to boycott this vile rag put yourself in the families of the 96s position. Or anyone from Liverpool who were called liars thieves and scum by the very scum who facilitated the cover up. "

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Last thing I thought I'd be doing is posting about Hillsborough on this site but.........

A very emotional day for every one connected, especially for the families who lost loved ones on that horrific day back in 89'. This is a tragedy that could of happened to any club under those circumstances . Finally after 27 years of lies & smear, deceit and cover ups the full truth of what happened that day and the subsequent years to follow has come out. This is a day for the families and friends of the 96 , for Liverpool supporters and the city, but it is also a day for all football fans, wether you support Leicester or Lincoln, Man Utd to Macclesfield, we are all the same. Fathers, sons, mothers, daughters, grandparents to grandkids. This could have happened to any of us!!

This has taken 2 years of detailed investigation, nothing has been left out.

Well done to all involved in bringing this about, and especially the families and supporters who never gave up.

As a proud Liverpool supporter for over 40 years. YNWA. To all football supporters.

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By *van ArdenMan  over a year ago

Coleford, Forest of Dean, Gloucestershire.

I buy the Sun every day. When I was a kid we would use old newspaper for toiletery purposes.

The Sun is perfect for wiping my arse lol

Read it you ask ? No never as it is utter shite.

By the way did you see Kelvin Mckenzie on the news tonight ? What a disgusting and loathsome bastard. If I had been near him you would have had to have held me back.

There you go - rant over.

God Bless the Hillsborough 96 and their families. So brave and so unflinching in their pursuit of justice. God Bless you.

PS.Is it true that Rupert Murdoch is going to issue an apology to the people of Liverpool?

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By *iamondjoeMan  over a year ago

Glastonbury


"I buy the Sun every day. When I was a kid we would use old newspaper for toiletery purposes.

The Sun is perfect for wiping my arse lol "

It leaves more shit on than it takes off, tbh

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I have never or will ever buy or read the Sun.

The beginning of Justice at last

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I boycott The Sun for many reasons not just this one. Vile, vile paper

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By *illwill69uMan  over a year ago

moston

I refuse to buy anything from the Murdock empire, not just the scum.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

And no mention of this on the front page of tomorrow's Scum

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I buy the Sun every day. When I was a kid we would use old newspaper for toiletery purposes.

The Sun is perfect for wiping my arse lol

Read it you ask ? No never as it is utter shite.

By the way did you see Kelvin Mckenzie on the news tonight ? What a disgusting and loathsome bastard. If I had been near him you would have had to have held me back.

There you go - rant over.

God Bless the Hillsborough 96 and their families. So brave and so unflinching in their pursuit of justice. God Bless you.

PS.Is it true that Rupert Murdoch is going to issue an apology to the people of Liverpool? "

I've no idea what Murdoch intends to do but I've a feeling he'll be told to shove it where a certain shitty publication of his doesn't shine.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

If you think McKenzie is bad,,have people seen the letter that Thatcher's press secretary Bernard Ingram wrote at the time? It's unbelievable, and he refused to apologise for it earlier today

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By *B9 Queen OP   Woman  over a year ago

Over the rainbow, under the bridge


"I boycott The Sun for many reasons not just this one. Vile, vile paper"

Ditto

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By *B9 Queen OP   Woman  over a year ago

Over the rainbow, under the bridge

Apology printed today on pages 5 and 6 apparently. Why was it not on the front like the original lies were?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Apology printed today on pages 5 and 6 apparently. Why was it not on the front like the original lies were? "

Because it wouldn't want more attention would it? Such a cowardly newspaper.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I didn't boycott it over Hillsboro, I boycotted it over pushing Murdochs political agenda and the phone bugging scandal

I boycotted it because it was crap and an affront to people's intelligence.

I don't mind having my intelligence insulted, it usually means people have underestimated me.

All newspapers have an agenda, the art is to see through that and find the real story. "

Find the real story......? In the Sun??? Good luck with that Poirot!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Iv never read it anyway,and im sat in the canteen at work and there is a sun right next to me i just picked it up and put is straight back down, scummy dirty gutter press

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"The Sun is still boycotted 26 years after the tragedy. It's unlikely this will change. Many newsagents refuse to even stock it.

Will anyone be either continuing to boycott it or begin to in the light of the decision in court today? "

I only heard on radio yesterday what the sun had said and printed in newspapers which cannot be repeated here or anywhere, its not often the sun newspaper shocks me with bad reporting but this was a disgrace

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I didn't boycott it over Hillsboro, I boycotted it over pushing Murdochs political agenda and the phone bugging scandal

I boycotted it because it was crap and an affront to people's intelligence.

I don't mind having my intelligence insulted, it usually means people have underestimated me.

All newspapers have an agenda, the art is to see through that and find the real story.

Find the real story......? In the Sun??? Good luck with that Poirot!"

Never let the truth get in the way of a good story

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"only if the sun spend the same about of pages on the apology as they did smearing the good people who did nothing wrong.....

starting on page 1 with the headline on page 1 "sorry, we got this one wrong ... big time"

They already did that some time ago ..

And Kelvin Mackenzie then later retracted his apology citing murdoch forcing him to do it. "

That cretin* was also shown yesterday saying "In a strange way, I kind of caught up in it"

*not sure if the stronger "C word" is banned under forum rules

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I never buy, The. Sun. anyway. I am a, Daily. Star. buyer. 20p (bargain) lol.

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By *ownhouseTwosomeCouple  over a year ago

Birkenhead/Liverpool

Spousers are often ridiculed and the brunt of many jokes; we take it on the chin and to be fair some of the stereotypical comments have been quite accurate over the years. We just laugh it off. I haven't always been proud of my place of birth but yesterday I was. Liverpool stood together as one, breath held, waiting for that verdict and it was like a heavy, dark cloud was lifted from over the city.

I'd say all of us knew someone at the match that day or have a story to tell of where we where when the news broke 27 years ago. We will never forget and I'm afraid, in the case of 'that newspaper', we will never forgive either.

To our friends and family members who went out to enjoy a great day of football and never came home...

YWNA xxx

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

On an "aside" I've just heard on daybreak that "they may look into the possibilities of legal action (against police etc)". That should be a given...considering the lies put around during the cover-up of their incompetence.

Just wonder if the scum and Murdoch et al could be included in that action?

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By *carlet_heavenWoman  over a year ago

somewhere in the sticks


"I didn't boycott it over Hillsboro, I boycotted it over pushing Murdochs political agenda and the phone bugging scandal

I boycotted it because it was crap and an affront to people's intelligence. "

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By *cduck and Blue eyesCouple  over a year ago

nr chester


"Spousers are often ridiculed and the brunt of many jokes; we take it on the chin and to be fair some of the stereotypical comments have been quite accurate over the years. We just laugh it off. I haven't always been proud of my place of birth but yesterday I was. Liverpool stood together as one, breath held, waiting for that verdict and it was like a heavy, dark cloud was lifted from over the city.

I'd say all of us knew someone at the match that day or have a story to tell of where we where when the news broke 27 years ago. We will never forget and I'm afraid, in the case of 'that newspaper', we will never forgive either.

To our friends and family members who went out to enjoy a great day of football and never came home...

YWNA xxx"

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I dont read the sun for this reason. Of course yesterdays conclusion could have been reached within 6 months of the tragedy. High ranking officers in the yorkshire police have lied and conspired with govt to cover up the truth. Helped by the media in creating a false narrative.Investigated by west midlands police who it would appear have also lied & conspired. I will be surprised if any criminal charges are brought. The CPS will no doubt trot out lame excuses that no one really buys as to why they cannot prosecute. But i wont feel justice has been done untill some lengthy prison sentences are dished out.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I dont read the sun for this reason. Of course yesterdays conclusion could have been reached within 6 months of the tragedy. High ranking officers in the yorkshire police have lied and conspired with govt to cover up the truth. Helped by the media in creating a false narrative.Investigated by west midlands police who it would appear have also lied & conspired. I will be surprised if any criminal charges are brought. The CPS will no doubt trot out lame excuses that no one really buys as to why they cannot prosecute. But i wont feel justice has been done untill some lengthy prison sentences are dished out."
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By *errygTV/TS  over a year ago

denton

a bet the the didnt the credit for the outcome of this, they seem to solve and have answers for everything else, it was the sun that took the credit for lower fuel prices nowt to do with oil price drop. i was thinking of patenting budgie cage mats with images of the sun on them should sell well in liverpool

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By *U1966Man  over a year ago

Devon

Don't buy the Sun never will cannot be forgiven YNWA 96

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

When you walk through the storm hold ur hands up high and don't be afraid of the darker the end of the strom , there's a golden sky and the sweet silver song of a lark.

Walk on through the wind walk on through the rain thought ur dreams be tossed and blown

Walk on walk on with hope in ur heart and you'll never walk alone you'll be ever walk alone

Walk on walk on with hope in your heart and you'll never walk alone. YNWA.

RIP NOW TO THE 96.

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By *atEvolutionCouple  over a year ago

Hot WIVES 01 March

Would never ever buy it.

and if you can you should be going to:

The Commemorative Memorial Service this Evening.

5.45pm Wednesday 27 April on Liverpool's St George's Hall plateau.

We will be there.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Would never ever buy it.

and if you can you should be going to:

The Commemorative Memorial Service this Evening.

5.45pm Wednesday 27 April on Liverpool's St George's Hall plateau.

We will be there."

Light a candle for me to pls xxx

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By *atEvolutionCouple  over a year ago

Hot WIVES 01 March


"Would never ever buy it.

and if you can you should be going to:

The Commemorative Memorial Service this Evening.

5.45pm Wednesday 27 April on Liverpool's St George's Hall plateau.

We will be there.

Light a candle for me to pls xxx"

I will Baby.

TY for asking me to.

Cat X

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By *atEvolutionCouple  over a year ago

Hot WIVES 01 March

The Sun have NO coverage of Hillsborough on their front page today and are ONCE again apologising.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

The one thing that sticks in my head about it is that they said that Liverpool fans were pinching ppls wallets and pissing on them.

Efin sun papers

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By *B9 Queen OP   Woman  over a year ago

Over the rainbow, under the bridge


"The Sun have NO coverage of Hillsborough on their front page today and are ONCE again apologising.

"

The BBC said it was on pages 5 and 6.

It should have been on the front.

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By *donielMan  over a year ago

Liverpool


"Spousers are often ridiculed and the brunt of many jokes; we take it on the chin and to be fair some of the stereotypical comments have been quite accurate over the years. We just laugh it off. I haven't always been proud of my place of birth but yesterday I was. Liverpool stood together as one, breath held, waiting for that verdict and it was like a heavy, dark cloud was lifted from over the city.

I'd say all of us knew someone at the match that day or have a story to tell of where we where when the news broke 27 years ago. We will never forget and I'm afraid, in the case of 'that newspaper', we will never forgive either.

To our friends and family members who went out to enjoy a great day of football and never came home...

YWNA xxx"

Well said, we have brought much upon our own heads over the years. Yesterday I hope removed the veils from many eyes regarding Liverpool.

With regards to the State/Police/Media I will borrow the motto of our Scots brethren "Nemo Me Impune Lacessit"

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By *olgateMan  over a year ago

on the road to nowhere in particular

Nothing on front page of the times either quelle surprisè

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

It has never been my choice of paper so I cannot honestly say that Hillsborough is the reason I never read it.

I know that what they printed was simply terrible but I've never been able to look past the police and govt of the day.

The Sun was a symptom. They were not the cause. They were a tool used by others to peddle their poisonous propaganda.

That's always been the case in my opinion, Hillsborough is just a particularly tragic and malicious example.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

And scousers never buy the Sun ...

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple  over a year ago

in Lancashire


"And scousers never buy the Sun ..."

not this one nor anyone in my extended family or friends either..

not just because of the lies they printed (they were not alone) but for many reasons, ditto i will never buy sky or anything like that..

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"And scousers never buy the Sun ..."

No Scousers I know buy it, so your point is what exactly???

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

There will be a lot of high profile names adjusting there bicycle clips now, let's hope for the 96 they get all the shit they deserve, we Geordies never doubted the scousers for one minute , it's just a shame it's taken all these years to get to the truth that they were real football fans and not the people they were portrayed to be by the poxy newspaper and certain other politicians

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"There will be a lot of high profile names adjusting there bicycle clips now, let's hope for the 96 they get all the shit they deserve, we Geordies never doubted the scousers for one minute , it's just a shame it's taken all these years to get to the truth that they were real football fans and not the people they were portrayed to be by the poxy newspaper and certain other politicians"

well said to

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

If it wasn't for the fucking hooligans who caused the need for fences to be erected in the first place. They'd still be here. Rip peeps

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"And scousers never buy the Sun ...

No Scousers I know buy it, so your point is what exactly??? "

It is a great song.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"And scousers never buy the Sun ...

No Scousers I know buy it, so your point is what exactly???

It is a great song."

For those that don't know Billy Bragg's anthem "Never Buy The Sun"

http://youtu.be/l1P6KUyOhBc

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I like that the only reason for not buying the Sun for several users is how they reported this story.

Why isn't poor quality yellow journalism a good enough reason? It's shit and heavily biased.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"If it wasn't for the fucking hooligans who caused the need for fences to be erected in the first place. They'd still be here. Rip peeps"

Mmm I would say fair point. But didn't happen any where else.

Rip 96

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By *ent57Man  over a year ago

... where the streets have no name!


"I like that the only reason for not buying the Sun for several users is how they reported this story.

Why isn't poor quality yellow journalism a good enough reason? It's shit and heavily biased. "

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"And scousers never buy the Sun ...

No Scousers I know buy it, so your point is what exactly???

It is a great song.

For those that don't know Billy Bragg's anthem "Never Buy The Sun"

http://youtu.be/l1P6KUyOhBc"

Just listened to it

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I like that the only reason for not buying the Sun for several users is how they reported this story.

Why isn't poor quality yellow journalism a good enough reason? It's shit and heavily biased. "

Because in 1989 I was 25. I had only looked at the Sun as a teenager for Page 3 and the sport. I stopped looking at that excuse for a rag immediately after Hillsborough deciding then it was vile. Everything I understand about it since has served only to reinforce that feeling, but nothing it does will make me feel as disgusted as the day McKensie published the vile lies.

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By *anaduABCMan  over a year ago

Dublin

Im Irish and havent bought the since Hillsborough and never will.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"If it wasn't for the fucking hooligans who caused the need for fences to be erected in the first place. They'd still be here. Rip peeps"

"Fucking hooligans" didnt cause the disaster. Fencing didnt cause the disaster.

A jury took 2 years to work out exactly what and who caused the disaster.

If it wasn't for the policing policies that day among other events, 96 people would still be with us.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Yeah true wankers been done now so all over with

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I like that the only reason for not buying the Sun for several users is how they reported this story.

Why isn't poor quality yellow journalism a good enough reason? It's shit and heavily biased. "

That's reason enough, Hillsborough lies. Everything else is secondary. Being a Scouser and old enough to remember what it did to my home city poor quality journalism is totally irrelevant

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"If it wasn't for the fucking hooligans who caused the need for fences to be erected in the first place. They'd still be here. Rip peeps

"Fucking hooligans" didnt cause the disaster. Fencing didnt cause the disaster.

A jury took 2 years to work out exactly what and who caused the disaster.

If it wasn't for the policing policies that day among other events, 96 people would still be with us. "

i think she ment hooligans in general at other stadiums here and also in europe that caused the fencing to be erected in stadiums. Can't believe its taken so long to get justice..

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I remember it reported on tv. Stunned by the images and what unfolded. I hope it brings some comfort to the family and friends of the 96. Truly awful ..

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

So did everyone form a orderly queue to get in ? Nobody turned up ticketless ? And nobody was d*unk ???

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Just answer the questions truthfully

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

A wise man once said to me that the only newspaper you should read is the Financial Times, cos the rich and powerful only peddle their lies via the other papers whereas the Financial Times tells them where to make their money so they don't lie in that paper.

My personal opinion is , if you don't read the papers you can't be lied to by any of them. As for the S*N I wouldn't wipe my arse on it.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


" So did everyone form a orderly queue to get in ? Nobody turned up ticketless ? And nobody was d*unk ??? "

None of those were reasons why 96 people died. Thank fuck, you weren't on the jury

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Just answer the questions truthfully "

Read the answers from the inquests

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/apr/26/14-questions-the-hillsborough-jury-must-answer?CMP=twt_gu

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


" So did everyone form a orderly queue to get in ? Nobody turned up ticketless ? And nobody was d*unk ??? "

None of those were reasons why 96 people died. Thank fuck, you weren't on the jury

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By *iss ouzeCouple  over a year ago

midlands


" So did everyone form a orderly queue to get in ? Nobody turned up ticketless ? And nobody was d*unk ??? "

I don't think you are a tosser at all, you have answered how you want to answer and you share the same opinion of many many people, I know Everton fans that say exactly what you have said and they also think its pathetic that Liverpool fans have boycotted the sun newspaper

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Just answer the question why you're opinion is worthy of answering when an inquiry into the disaster found no fault on the fans part. Get your jollies by inciting trouble? I can guess what type of "fan" you are.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Would never ever buy it.

and if you can you should be going to:

The Commemorative Memorial Service this Evening.

5.45pm Wednesday 27 April on Liverpool's St George's Hall plateau.

We will be there.

Light a candle for me to pls xxx"

You can watch on channel 429 LFCTV...yes on SKY.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


" So did everyone form a orderly queue to get in ? Nobody turned up ticketless ? And nobody was d*unk ???

I don't think you are a tosser at all, you have answered how you want to answer and you share the same opinion of many many people, I know Everton fans that say exactly what you have said and they also think its pathetic that Liverpool fans have boycotted the sun newspaper "

No they don't. TRUE Everton fans supported the Hillsborough families in their quest for justice. I'm from Liverpool and have many Everton fans as friends. I suppose making vile statements like yours is one way of getting attention. How pathetic.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


" So did everyone form a orderly queue to get in ? Nobody turned up ticketless ? And nobody was d*unk ??? "

Best thing to do when you have no knowledge of the subject is to just not comment at all.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


" So did everyone form a orderly queue to get in ? Nobody turned up ticketless ? And nobody was d*unk ???

None of those were reasons why 96 people died. Thank fuck, you weren't on the jury "

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By *B9 Queen OP   Woman  over a year ago

Over the rainbow, under the bridge


" So did everyone form a orderly queue to get in ? Nobody turned up ticketless ? And nobody was d*unk ??? "

Last I understood these were not deserving of a death sentence. Furthermore, I believe a 2 year case and decades of investigation have proven that the fans were not to blame. So quite why you pose such questions about those things which were NOT IN ANY WAY considered contributory factors is beyond me unless your sole intention in doing so is to upset people. In which case. Well done. Target achieved.

Now, if you wouldn't mind, the grown ups would like to continue the discussion.

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By *iss ouzeCouple  over a year ago

midlands


" So did everyone form a orderly queue to get in ? Nobody turned up ticketless ? And nobody was d*unk ???

I don't think you are a tosser at all, you have answered how you want to answer and you share the same opinion of many many people, I know Everton fans that say exactly what you have said and they also think its pathetic that Liverpool fans have boycotted the sun newspaper

No they don't. TRUE Everton fans supported the Hillsborough families in their quest for justice. I'm from Liverpool and have many Everton fans as friends. I suppose making vile statements like yours is one way of getting attention. How pathetic."

I'm not pathetic at all, I have told the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth.

Obviously you know Everton fans and I know Everton fans but maybe, just maybe they aren't the same ones !

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


" So did everyone form a orderly queue to get in ? Nobody turned up ticketless ? And nobody was d*unk ???

I don't think you are a tosser at all, you have answered how you want to answer and you share the same opinion of many many people, I know Everton fans that say exactly what you have said and they also think its pathetic that Liverpool fans have boycotted the sun newspaper "

Think you'll find that it's not just Liverpool fans that have boycotted the paper, none followers of football like myself don't buy it.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


" So did everyone form a orderly queue to get in ? Nobody turned up ticketless ? And nobody was d*unk ???

I don't think you are a tosser at all, you have answered how you want to answer and you share the same opinion of many many people, I know Everton fans that say exactly what you have said and they also think its pathetic that Liverpool fans have boycotted the sun newspaper

No they don't. TRUE Everton fans supported the Hillsborough families in their quest for justice. I'm from Liverpool and have many Everton fans as friends. I suppose making vile statements like yours is one way of getting attention. How pathetic.

I'm not pathetic at all, I have told the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth.

Obviously you know Everton fans and I know Everton fans but maybe, just maybe they aren't the same ones ! "

Thank fuck. No true Scouser would agree with you. And yes your statement is attention seeking and pathetic and wrong.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


" So did everyone form a orderly queue to get in ? Nobody turned up ticketless ? And nobody was d*unk ???

Last I understood these were not deserving of a death sentence. Furthermore, I believe a 2 year case and decades of investigation have proven that the fans were not to blame. So quite why you pose such questions about those things which were NOT IN ANY WAY considered contributory factors is beyond me unless your sole intention in doing so is to upset people. In which case. Well done. Target achieved.

Now, if you wouldn't mind, the grown ups would like to continue the discussion. "

that's the thing with open forums they attract all sorts of attention seeking low life.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"only if the sun spend the same about of pages on the apology as they did smearing the good people who did nothing wrong.....

starting on page 1 with the headline on page 1 "sorry, we got this one wrong ... big time"

"

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By *iss ouzeCouple  over a year ago

midlands


" So did everyone form a orderly queue to get in ? Nobody turned up ticketless ? And nobody was d*unk ???

Last I understood these were not deserving of a death sentence. Furthermore, I believe a 2 year case and decades of investigation have proven that the fans were not to blame. So quite why you pose such questions about those things which were NOT IN ANY WAY considered contributory factors is beyond me unless your sole intention in doing so is to upset people. In which case. Well done. Target achieved.

Now, if you wouldn't mind, the grown ups would like to continue the discussion.

that's the thing with open forums they attract all sorts of attention seeking low life. "

How on earth am I attention seeking by giving my opinion and the opinion of some Everton fans I know ?

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By *ikeC81Man  over a year ago

harrow

I will continue to buy the sun!!!!

Have the sun apologised yes they have twice

also have Liverpool apologised for hysel or apologised for the disgusting Munich chants or airplane arms that regularly gets made at old Trafford - nope. I was called a Munich a couple a months ago by a kopite.

Let me also clarify something as well 27 years for an inquest is shocking. This should have been done straight away!!!!

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By *B9 Queen OP   Woman  over a year ago

Over the rainbow, under the bridge


" So did everyone form a orderly queue to get in ? Nobody turned up ticketless ? And nobody was d*unk ???

Last I understood these were not deserving of a death sentence. Furthermore, I believe a 2 year case and decades of investigation have proven that the fans were not to blame. So quite why you pose such questions about those things which were NOT IN ANY WAY considered contributory factors is beyond me unless your sole intention in doing so is to upset people. In which case. Well done. Target achieved.

Now, if you wouldn't mind, the grown ups would like to continue the discussion.

that's the thing with open forums they attract all sorts of attention seeking low life. "

All the more reason not to feed the trolls.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Who do you blame for heysel ?

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By *iss ouzeCouple  over a year ago

midlands


"I will continue to buy the sun!!!!

Have the sun apologised yes they have twice

also have Liverpool apologised for hysel or apologised for the disgusting Munich chants or airplane arms that regularly gets made at old Trafford - nope. I was called a Munich a couple a months ago by a kopite.

Let me also clarify something as well 27 years for an inquest is shocking. This should have been done straight away!!!!

"

You will get slated for that mate, you aren't allowed to say what you feel

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By *iss ouzeCouple  over a year ago

midlands


"Who do you blame for heysel ? "

Liverpool fans started all the trouble that day but its never there fault

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By *ikeC81Man  over a year ago

harrow


" So did everyone form a orderly queue to get in ? Nobody turned up ticketless ? And nobody was d*unk ??? "

I travel home and away with both my team and with England and that still happens.

The inquest said Liverpool fans were blameless so we have to stick by it

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Can see this thread being removed the way this is going.

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By *B9 Queen OP   Woman  over a year ago

Over the rainbow, under the bridge

Aaaaand back to the question. Anyone still or going to be boycotting The Sun?

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By *iss ouzeCouple  over a year ago

midlands

I will continue to buy it

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By *B9 Queen OP   Woman  over a year ago

Over the rainbow, under the bridge


"Who do you blame for heysel ?

Liverpool fans started all the trouble that day but its never there fault "

This thread is not about that. Please open your own about Heysel if you wish.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Always the victims springs to mind never there fault

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Aaaaand back to the question. Anyone still or going to be boycotting The Sun?"

I don't buy the sun , it's not really are boycot as such but their handling of this and other things made me come to the conclusion that they're all a bunch of cunts years ago.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Always the victims springs to mind never there fault "

Tired and old cliche that only gets sung on the terraces when you're surrounded by people of similar intelligence.

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By *retty womanWoman  over a year ago

Near Bournemouth


"Always the victims springs to mind never there fault "

Their

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By *nfamyMan  over a year ago

Goole

[Removed by poster at 27/04/16 18:21:01]

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Aaaaand back to the question. Anyone still or going to be boycotting The Sun?"

Boycott the Sun

Then subscribe to LFCTV on SKY

Both owned by the same person.

What's the point.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


" So did everyone form a orderly queue to get in ? Nobody turned up ticketless ? And nobody was d*unk ???

Last I understood these were not deserving of a death sentence. Furthermore, I believe a 2 year case and decades of investigation have proven that the fans were not to blame. So quite why you pose such questions about those things which were NOT IN ANY WAY considered contributory factors is beyond me unless your sole intention in doing so is to upset people. In which case. Well done. Target achieved.

Now, if you wouldn't mind, the grown ups would like to continue the discussion.

that's the thing with open forums they attract all sorts of attention seeking low life.

How on earth am I attention seeking by giving my opinion and the opinion of some Everton fans I know ? "

Opinions are like arseholes....

The verdict yesterday is all that matters. Say your opinion in Liverpool to anyone regardless of what team they support and I guarantee you won't like the reaction.

Anyone is free to buy whatever "newspaper" they like. Says more about them to buy a rag like that.

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By *iss ouzeCouple  over a year ago

midlands


"Aaaaand back to the question. Anyone still or going to be boycotting The Sun?

Boycott the Sun

Then subscribe to LFCTV on SKY

Both owned by the same person.

What's the point."

Is this true that the owner owns both ?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Always the victims springs to mind never there fault

Tired and old cliche that only gets sung on the terraces when you're surrounded by people of similar intelligence. "

he can't even come up with something original.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Aaaaand back to the question. Anyone still or going to be boycotting The Sun?

Boycott the Sun

Then subscribe to LFCTV on SKY

Both owned by the same person.

What's the point.

Is this true that the owner owns both ? "

Murdoch

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Aaaaand back to the question. Anyone still or going to be boycotting The Sun?

Boycott the Sun

Then subscribe to LFCTV on SKY

Both owned by the same person.

What's the point.

Is this true that the owner owns both ? "

Ah can see what you're doing now

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By *iss ouzeCouple  over a year ago

midlands

I really don't understand why people are pissed off with other people's comments, this is an open forum for people to say how they feel and stuff

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By *iss ouzeCouple  over a year ago

midlands

So do Liverpool fans watch Liverpool TV on sky ?

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple  over a year ago

in Lancashire


"Just answer the questions truthfully "

the question you ask and many other have been asked and there has been 2 years of an inquest which totally exonerated the fans on that day of any blame..

the Hillsborough Independent Panel also found there was no blame..

fucks sake even Lord Justice Taylor put the blame in his inquiry upon the South Yorkshire Police force..

look within all those for your answers..

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

There's saying how you feel and there's making nasty attention seeking bitchy comments. Out of interest whereabouts in Liverpool are you from?

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By *iss ouzeCouple  over a year ago

midlands


"Aaaaand back to the question. Anyone still or going to be boycotting The Sun?

Boycott the Sun

Then subscribe to LFCTV on SKY

Both owned by the same person.

What's the point.

Is this true that the owner owns both ?

Murdoch "

Not trying to change the subject at all but your pantie picture from 6th October is amazing but that's just my opinion

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"So do Liverpool fans watch Liverpool TV on sky ? "

You seem to know a lot about Scousers why not ask them? Fucking hell you must be short on attention with the shit you are coming out with on here.

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By *iss ouzeCouple  over a year ago

midlands


"There's saying how you feel and there's making nasty attention seeking bitchy comments. Out of interest whereabouts in Liverpool are you from? "

I'm honestly not seeking attention at all and I will say "sorry" on here to you and you only if I have offended you in any way as I haven't done it on purpose but my opinion is what I've stated and yes my Everton friends who are season ticket holders may I add did and still do say what I said earlier

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"There's saying how you feel and there's making nasty attention seeking bitchy comments. Out of interest whereabouts in Liverpool are you from?

I'm honestly not seeking attention at all and I will say "sorry" on here to you and you only if I have offended you in any way as I haven't done it on purpose but my opinion is what I've stated and yes my Everton friends who are season ticket holders may I add did and still do say what I said earlier "

You're coming across quite differently I can assure you.

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By *ali 69Man  over a year ago

jersey


"only if the sun spend the same about of pages on the apology as they did smearing the good people who did nothing wrong.....

starting on page 1 with the headline on page 1 "sorry, we got this one wrong ... big time"

They already did that some time ago ..

And Kelvin Mackenzie then later retracted his apology citing murdoch forcing him to do it. "

. Private eye reported years after the deaths that kelvin mackenzie was at a private corporate event and a businessman asked him did he mean shat he said about the fans in his newspaper . He replied that he " meant every word . " The snake yesterday backpeddled and tried to lie through his teeth to a reporter about it . 4 of my mates went that match , 3 came back . We only found out our 4th friend was alive in a hospital 4 days later . He was crushed under dead bodies . He has never psychologically recovered . So yes , us scousers will never forgive that aussie maggot .

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Aaaaand back to the question. Anyone still or going to be boycotting The Sun?

Boycott the Sun

Then subscribe to LFCTV on SKY

Both owned by the same person.

What's the point.

Is this true that the owner owns both ?

Murdoch "

The point I was making was...if I was boycotting one,I would boycott the other as well.I wouldn't want to put money into the owners pockets.

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By *nfamyMan  over a year ago

Goole


"The Sun is still boycotted 26 years after the tragedy. It's unlikely this will change. Many newsagents refuse to even stock it.

Will anyone be either continuing to boycott it or begin to in the light of the decision in court today? "

I do but I have Sky broadband,, so I am very shallow

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By *he_DoormanMan  over a year ago

Swansea

The Sun Newspaper was just as bad as the police matchday commander who right royally fucked up. As someone that deals with crowds in a professional basis, I will never read that shitrag again. Finally after 27 years justice is served. RIP the 96. YNWA X

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple  over a year ago

in Lancashire


"I will continue to buy the sun!!!!

Have the sun apologised yes they have twice

also have Liverpool apologised for hysel or apologised for the disgusting Munich chants or airplane arms that regularly gets made at old Trafford - nope. I was called a Munich a couple a months ago by a kopite.

Let me also clarify something as well 27 years for an inquest is shocking. This should have been done straight away!!!!

"

no one is saying you shouldn't buy the sun, crack on..

Heysel was a tragedy and Liverpool fans were jailed for their part in it..

there is a plaque in the centenary stand at Anfield and the club has apologised and the fans have also said sorry..

Munich chants and Hillsborough chants are equally vile and i'll say it again there is no need for the hate that some on here of different teams display to others..

at the recent game at Old Trafford UEFA looked into the Man U fans chanting, who started it..?

does it matter?

its equally wrong and its only when people put away their pathetic hatred for people who support a different football team that some decency will prevail..

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By *ownhouseTwosomeCouple  over a year ago

Birkenhead/Liverpool

This tragedy could have happened to any fans, it just happened to be Liverpool fans, so if we take Liverpool out of it and find an ounce of compassion, we may just take a fuckin step back a minute and remember that lives were lost here. Families changed forever. Football changed forever. Any city, anywhere could be going through this right now... these were people!!

To go over a few points....

Yes there are some Everton fans who will buy the sun...in fact there may even be the odd Liverpool fan who still buys the sun..who knows?? But I'm telling you now, my family and friends are both Liverpool and Everton supporters and they stand together.

Tonight in Liverpool city centre, all fans have come together to celebrate this decision...standing together.

There will always be the odd arsehole Evertonian who has something clever to say...it's usually my Husband but on this subject, there is respect. Utmost respect!!

Now the questions posed by Gary earlier.

Yes there would have been d*unken fans...it was a football match.

Yes there would have been people turn up without tickets...it was a football match.

Yes there would have been pushing ad shoving...it was a football match.

It happens at EVERY match.

The fact remains is that these questions and thousands of others have been considered for 2 years. This case has been torn wide open and put back together again...we all know the verdict, there's no need to say it again.

So yes, the d*unks, the queue jumpers, the ticketless were there, but a judge and jury does not lay blame in their lap.

So, those who are quoting Liverpool did this and Liverpool fans did that at previous matches and tragedies... just remember that this could have been any match on any day with any fans. It could be your team and your family and friends who are still mourning.

Have some fuckin sense and compassion and think about how HORRIFIC these deaths must have been. How frightened they must have been. How helpless others were in watching people die.

God I would love you to ask those questions in my home town tonight pal!

Love from a lifelong LFC supporter, Liverpool born and bred and will remember that day for the rest of my life.

xx

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By *ali 69Man  over a year ago

jersey


"This tragedy could have happened to any fans, it just happened to be Liverpool fans, so if we take Liverpool out of it and find an ounce of compassion, we may just take a fuckin step back a minute and remember that lives were lost here. Families changed forever. Football changed forever. Any city, anywhere could be going through this right now... these were people!!

To go over a few points....

Yes there are some Everton fans who will buy the sun...in fact there may even be the odd Liverpool fan who still buys the sun..who knows?? But I'm telling you now, my family and friends are both Liverpool and Everton supporters and they stand together.

Tonight in Liverpool city centre, all fans have come together to celebrate this decision...standing together.

There will always be the odd arsehole Evertonian who has something clever to say...it's usually my Husband but on this subject, there is respect. Utmost respect!!

Now the questions posed by Gary earlier.

Yes there would have been d*unken fans...it was a football match.

Yes there would have been people turn up without tickets...it was a football match.

Yes there would have been pushing ad shoving...it was a football match.

It happens at EVERY match.

The fact remains is that these questions and thousands of others have been considered for 2 years. This case has been torn wide open and put back together again...we all know the verdict, there's no need to say it again.

So yes, the d*unks, the queue jumpers, the ticketless were there, but a judge and jury does not lay blame in their lap.

So, those who are quoting Liverpool did this and Liverpool fans did that at previous matches and tragedies... just remember that this could have been any match on any day with any fans. It could be your team and your family and friends who are still mourning.

Have some fuckin sense and compassion and think about how HORRIFIC these deaths must have been. How frightened they must have been. How helpless others were in watching people die.

God I would love you to ask those questions in my home town tonight pal!

Love from a lifelong LFC supporter, Liverpool born and bred and will remember that day for the rest of my life.

xx "

Fucking well said !!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


" So did everyone form a orderly queue to get in ? Nobody turned up ticketless ? And nobody was d*unk ???

I don't think you are a tosser at all, you have answered how you want to answer and you share the same opinion of many many people, I know Everton fans that say exactly what you have said and they also think its pathetic that Liverpool fans have boycotted the sun newspaper

No they don't. TRUE Everton fans supported the Hillsborough families in their quest for justice. I'm from Liverpool and have many Everton fans as friends. I suppose making vile statements like yours is one way of getting attention. How pathetic.

I'm not pathetic at all, I have told the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth.

Obviously you know Everton fans and I know Everton fans but maybe, just maybe they aren't the same ones ! "

No doubt you know the ones who sang "Always the victim" at the Derby last week.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"This tragedy could have happened to any fans, it just happened to be Liverpool fans, so if we take Liverpool out of it and find an ounce of compassion, we may just take a fuckin step back a minute and remember that lives were lost here. Families changed forever. Football changed forever. Any city, anywhere could be going through this right now... these were people!!

To go over a few points....

Yes there are some Everton fans who will buy the sun...in fact there may even be the odd Liverpool fan who still buys the sun..who knows?? But I'm telling you now, my family and friends are both Liverpool and Everton supporters and they stand together.

Tonight in Liverpool city centre, all fans have come together to celebrate this decision...standing together.

There will always be the odd arsehole Evertonian who has something clever to say...it's usually my Husband but on this subject, there is respect. Utmost respect!!

Now the questions posed by Gary earlier.

Yes there would have been d*unken fans...it was a football match.

Yes there would have been people turn up without tickets...it was a football match.

Yes there would have been pushing ad shoving...it was a football match.

It happens at EVERY match.

The fact remains is that these questions and thousands of others have been considered for 2 years. This case has been torn wide open and put back together again...we all know the verdict, there's no need to say it again.

So yes, the d*unks, the queue jumpers, the ticketless were there, but a judge and jury does not lay blame in their lap.

So, those who are quoting Liverpool did this and Liverpool fans did that at previous matches and tragedies... just remember that this could have been any match on any day with any fans. It could be your team and your family and friends who are still mourning.

Have some fuckin sense and compassion and think about how HORRIFIC these deaths must have been. How frightened they must have been. How helpless others were in watching people die.

God I would love you to ask those questions in my home town tonight pal!

Love from a lifelong LFC supporter, Liverpool born and bred and will remember that day for the rest of my life.

xx "

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple  over a year ago

in Lancashire


"This tragedy could have happened to any fans, it just happened to be Liverpool fans, so if we take Liverpool out of it and find an ounce of compassion, we may just take a fuckin step back a minute and remember that lives were lost here. Families changed forever. Football changed forever. Any city, anywhere could be going through this right now... these were people!!

To go over a few points....

Yes there are some Everton fans who will buy the sun...in fact there may even be the odd Liverpool fan who still buys the sun..who knows?? But I'm telling you now, my family and friends are both Liverpool and Everton supporters and they stand together.

Tonight in Liverpool city centre, all fans have come together to celebrate this decision...standing together.

There will always be the odd arsehole Evertonian who has something clever to say...it's usually my Husband but on this subject, there is respect. Utmost respect!!

Now the questions posed by Gary earlier.

Yes there would have been d*unken fans...it was a football match.

Yes there would have been people turn up without tickets...it was a football match.

Yes there would have been pushing ad shoving...it was a football match.

It happens at EVERY match.

The fact remains is that these questions and thousands of others have been considered for 2 years. This case has been torn wide open and put back together again...we all know the verdict, there's no need to say it again.

So yes, the d*unks, the queue jumpers, the ticketless were there, but a judge and jury does not lay blame in their lap.

So, those who are quoting Liverpool did this and Liverpool fans did that at previous matches and tragedies... just remember that this could have been any match on any day with any fans. It could be your team and your family and friends who are still mourning.

Have some fuckin sense and compassion and think about how HORRIFIC these deaths must have been. How frightened they must have been. How helpless others were in watching people die.

God I would love you to ask those questions in my home town tonight pal!

Love from a lifelong LFC supporter, Liverpool born and bred and will remember that day for the rest of my life.

xx "

well said..

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By *donielMan  over a year ago

Liverpool


"This tragedy could have happened to any fans, it just happened to be Liverpool fans, so if we take Liverpool out of it and find an ounce of compassion, we may just take a fuckin step back a minute and remember that lives were lost here. Families changed forever. Football changed forever. Any city, anywhere could be going through this right now... these were people!!

To go over a few points....

Yes there are some Everton fans who will buy the sun...in fact there may even be the odd Liverpool fan who still buys the sun..who knows?? But I'm telling you now, my family and friends are both Liverpool and Everton supporters and they stand together.

Tonight in Liverpool city centre, all fans have come together to celebrate this decision...standing together.

There will always be the odd arsehole Evertonian who has something clever to say...it's usually my Husband but on this subject, there is respect. Utmost respect!!

Now the questions posed by Gary earlier.

Yes there would have been d*unken fans...it was a football match.

Yes there would have been people turn up without tickets...it was a football match.

Yes there would have been pushing ad shoving...it was a football match.

It happens at EVERY match.

The fact remains is that these questions and thousands of others have been considered for 2 years. This case has been torn wide open and put back together again...we all know the verdict, there's no need to say it again.

So yes, the d*unks, the queue jumpers, the ticketless were there, but a judge and jury does not lay blame in their lap.

So, those who are quoting Liverpool did this and Liverpool fans did that at previous matches and tragedies... just remember that this could have been any match on any day with any fans. It could be your team and your family and friends who are still mourning.

Have some fuckin sense and compassion and think about how HORRIFIC these deaths must have been. How frightened they must have been. How helpless others were in watching people die.

God I would love you to ask those questions in my home town tonight pal!

Love from a lifelong LFC supporter, Liverpool born and bred and will remember that day for the rest of my life.

xx "

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By *at69driveMan  over a year ago

Hertford


"The Sun is still boycotted 26 years after the tragedy. It's unlikely this will change. Many newsagents refuse to even stock it.

Will anyone be either continuing to boycott it or begin to in the light of the decision in court today? "

. As the event happened twenty six years ago, it is if little relevance to day .

It is importance to remember that 96 peop!e lost their lives . The key thing is that measures were put in place to prevent such an tragedy occurring again .

I don't believe that many people newspapers would spread false information .

They can only rely on information fed to them at the time and the time scale to investigate it's accuracy would be very limited .

Again I fail to believe that anyone deliberately caused this tragedy and as such to call for manslaughter prosecution is ridiculous .

Our sympathies should be with the families of those who lost their lives , though a few did appear to be unable to come to terms with what happened.

As steps had been put in place a long time ago to prevent the possibility of such a tragedy recurring , the recent enquiry could be considered to be a waste of public funds .

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By *ugby 123Couple  over a year ago
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It could have happened to any club and any set of fans. If people just read up about it and looked at it from an impartial view instead of a " we hate scousers/ Liverpool / that football team" view they would have been horrified at the cover up and lies that were told about innocent people who lost their lives.

I am just glad that the families didn't give up

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"This tragedy could have happened to any fans, it just happened to be Liverpool fans, so if we take Liverpool out of it and find an ounce of compassion, we may just take a fuckin step back a minute and remember that lives were lost here. Families changed forever. Football changed forever. Any city, anywhere could be going through this right now... these were people!!

To go over a few points....

Yes there are some Everton fans who will buy the sun...in fact there may even be the odd Liverpool fan who still buys the sun..who knows?? But I'm telling you now, my family and friends are both Liverpool and Everton supporters and they stand together.

Tonight in Liverpool city centre, all fans have come together to celebrate this decision...standing together.

There will always be the odd arsehole Evertonian who has something clever to say...it's usually my Husband but on this subject, there is respect. Utmost respect!!

Now the questions posed by Gary earlier.

Yes there would have been d*unken fans...it was a football match.

Yes there would have been people turn up without tickets...it was a football match.

Yes there would have been pushing ad shoving...it was a football match.

It happens at EVERY match.

The fact remains is that these questions and thousands of others have been considered for 2 years. This case has been torn wide open and put back together again...we all know the verdict, there's no need to say it again.

So yes, the d*unks, the queue jumpers, the ticketless were there, but a judge and jury does not lay blame in their lap.

So, those who are quoting Liverpool did this and Liverpool fans did that at previous matches and tragedies... just remember that this could have been any match on any day with any fans. It could be your team and your family and friends who are still mourning.

Have some fuckin sense and compassion and think about how HORRIFIC these deaths must have been. How frightened they must have been. How helpless others were in watching people die.

God I would love you to ask those questions in my home town tonight pal!

Love from a lifelong LFC supporter, Liverpool born and bred and will remember that day for the rest of my life.

xx "

From a fellow Scouser and LFC lifelong supporter well said

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By *ugby 123Couple  over a year ago
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PS...no matter how idiotic you think another persons posts are, don't abuse that person

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By *olgateMan  over a year ago

on the road to nowhere in particular


"It could have happened to any club and any set of fans. If people just read up about it and looked at it from an impartial view instead of a " we hate scousers/ Liverpool / that football team" view they would have been horrified at the cover up and lies that were told about innocent people who lost their lives.

I am just glad that the families didn't give up "

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple  over a year ago

in Lancashire


"The Sun is still boycotted 26 years after the tragedy. It's unlikely this will change. Many newsagents refuse to even stock it.

Will anyone be either continuing to boycott it or begin to in the light of the decision in court today? . As the event happened twenty six years ago, it is if little relevance to day .

It is importance to remember that 96 peop!e lost their lives . The key thing is that measures were put in place to prevent such an tragedy occurring again .

I don't believe that many people newspapers would spread false information .

They can only rely on information fed to them at the time and the time scale to investigate it's accuracy would be very limited .

Again I fail to believe that anyone deliberately caused this tragedy and as such to call for manslaughter prosecution is ridiculous .

Our sympathies should be with the families of those who lost their lives , though a few did appear to be unable to come to terms with what happened.

As steps had been put in place a long time ago to prevent the possibility of such a tragedy recurring , the recent enquiry could be considered to be a waste of public funds .

"

What?

are referring to the Coroners inquest ?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"This tragedy could have happened to any fans, it just happened to be Liverpool fans, so if we take Liverpool out of it and find an ounce of compassion, we may just take a fuckin step back a minute and remember that lives were lost here. Families changed forever. Football changed forever. Any city, anywhere could be going through this right now... these were people!!

To go over a few points....

Yes there are some Everton fans who will buy the sun...in fact there may even be the odd Liverpool fan who still buys the sun..who knows?? But I'm telling you now, my family and friends are both Liverpool and Everton supporters and they stand together.

Tonight in Liverpool city centre, all fans have come together to celebrate this decision...standing together.

There will always be the odd arsehole Evertonian who has something clever to say...it's usually my Husband but on this subject, there is respect. Utmost respect!!

Now the questions posed by Gary earlier.

Yes there would have been d*unken fans...it was a football match.

Yes there would have been people turn up without tickets...it was a football match.

Yes there would have been pushing ad shoving...it was a football match.

It happens at EVERY match.

The fact remains is that these questions and thousands of others have been considered for 2 years. This case has been torn wide open and put back together again...we all know the verdict, there's no need to say it again.

So yes, the d*unks, the queue jumpers, the ticketless were there, but a judge and jury does not lay blame in their lap.

So, those who are quoting Liverpool did this and Liverpool fans did that at previous matches and tragedies... just remember that this could have been any match on any day with any fans. It could be your team and your family and friends who are still mourning.

Have some fuckin sense and compassion and think about how HORRIFIC these deaths must have been. How frightened they must have been. How helpless others were in watching people die.

God I would love you to ask those questions in my home town tonight pal!

Love from a lifelong LFC supporter, Liverpool born and bred and will remember that day for the rest of my life.

xx "

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"It could have happened to any club and any set of fans. If people just read up about it and looked at it from an impartial view instead of a " we hate scousers/ Liverpool / that football team" view they would have been horrified at the cover up and lies that were told about innocent people who lost their lives.

I am just glad that the families didn't give up "

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"The Sun is still boycotted 26 years after the tragedy. It's unlikely this will change. Many newsagents refuse to even stock it.

Will anyone be either continuing to boycott it or begin to in the light of the decision in court today? . As the event happened twenty six years ago, it is if little relevance to day .

It is importance to remember that 96 peop!e lost their lives . The key thing is that measures were put in place to prevent such an tragedy occurring again .

I don't believe that many people newspapers would spread false information .

They can only rely on information fed to them at the time and the time scale to investigate it's accuracy would be very limited .

Again I fail to believe that anyone deliberately caused this tragedy and as such to call for manslaughter prosecution is ridiculous .

Our sympathies should be with the families of those who lost their lives , though a few did appear to be unable to come to terms with what happened.

As steps had been put in place a long time ago to prevent the possibility of such a tragedy recurring , the recent enquiry could be considered to be a waste of public funds .

"

In your opinion. Tell that to the families.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"If it wasn't for the fucking hooligans who caused the need for fences to be erected in the first place. They'd still be here. Rip peeps

"Fucking hooligans" didnt cause the disaster. Fencing didnt cause the disaster.

A jury took 2 years to work out exactly what and who caused the disaster.

If it wasn't for the policing policies that day among other events, 96 people would still be with us. "

I'm not doubting that. But the introduction of those fences in the first place stopped them bring able to escape. But yes they deserve their justice

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By *ownhouseTwosomeCouple  over a year ago

Birkenhead/Liverpool

Folks just look on sky news online when you have a mo or follow #hillsborough and watch the scenes in Liverpool at the moment at the Hillsborough vigil. Bawling my eyes out here and plenty of red AND blue scarves in the crowds.

#proudtobeascouser

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Folks just look on sky news online when you have a mo or follow #hillsborough and watch the scenes in Liverpool at the moment at the Hillsborough vigil. Bawling my eyes out here and plenty of red AND blue scarves in the crowds.

#proudtobeascouser "

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Folks just look on sky news online when you have a mo or follow #hillsborough and watch the scenes in Liverpool at the moment at the Hillsborough vigil. Bawling my eyes out here and plenty of red AND blue scarves in the crowds.

#proudtobeascouser "

On SKY NEWS

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Again I fail to believe that anyone deliberately caused this tragedy and as such to call for manslaughter prosecution is ridiculous .

"

No one is saying it was deliberate, that;s why the potential charge is manslaughter by gross negligence. People should still be accountable

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By *B9 Queen OP   Woman  over a year ago

Over the rainbow, under the bridge


"only if the sun spend the same about of pages on the apology as they did smearing the good people who did nothing wrong.....

starting on page 1 with the headline on page 1 "sorry, we got this one wrong ... big time"

They already did that some time ago ..

And Kelvin Mackenzie then later retracted his apology citing murdoch forcing him to do it. . Private eye reported years after the deaths that kelvin mackenzie was at a private corporate event and a businessman asked him did he mean shat he said about the fans in his newspaper . He replied that he " meant every word . " The snake yesterday backpeddled and tried to lie through his teeth to a reporter about it . 4 of my mates went that match , 3 came back . We only found out our 4th friend was alive in a hospital 4 days later . He was crushed under dead bodies . He has never psychologically recovered . So yes , us scousers will never forgive that aussie maggot . "

I read about that too. Even IF the Sun reporters were told lies, I didn't see similar lies so blatantly repeated elsewhere.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I enjoyed reading the backlash yesterday on the suns comments page...particularly some of the anti-anti muslim comments that came along with the comments on Hillsborough.

the general paper(s) have not changed their tune so much...if they could vilify gay or black people today they still would...but they know they risk alienating people who know better..and then see sales drop.

they may have apologised about hillsbourough..but in this latest news they blame the police force entirely it appears..and there wasnt even a mention of the part they played in distributing utter untruths. You would think after that smear campaign they might have learned to actually do some reporting and not preying on sensational fear mongering.

weirdly enough..I was reading about the kittens that were penned with permanent markers on the suns online page..thought I'd look at the video to see the poor wee moggies...instead of seeing the moggies..i had several videos one after the other about muslims....

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Last thing I thought I'd be doing is posting about Hillsborough on this site but.........

A very emotional day for every one connected, especially for the families who lost loved ones on that horrific day back in 89'. This is a tragedy that could of happened to any club under those circumstances . Finally after 27 years of lies & smear, deceit and cover ups the full truth of what happened that day and the subsequent years to follow has come out. This is a day for the families and friends of the 96 , for Liverpool supporters and the city, but it is also a day for all football fans, wether you support Leicester or Lincoln, Man Utd to Macclesfield, we are all the same. Fathers, sons, mothers, daughters, grandparents to grandkids. This could have happened to any of us!!

This has taken 2 years of detailed investigation, nothing has been left out.

Well done to all involved in bringing this about, and especially the families and supporters who never gave up.

As a proud Liverpool supporter for over 40 years. YNWA. To all football supporters."

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Spousers are often ridiculed and the brunt of many jokes; we take it on the chin and to be fair some of the stereotypical comments have been quite accurate over the years. We just laugh it off. I haven't always been proud of my place of birth but yesterday I was. Liverpool stood together as one, breath held, waiting for that verdict and it was like a heavy, dark cloud was lifted from over the city.

I'd say all of us knew someone at the match that day or have a story to tell of where we where when the news broke 27 years ago. We will never forget and I'm afraid, in the case of 'that newspaper', we will never forgive either.

To our friends and family members who went out to enjoy a great day of football and never came home...

YWNA xxx"

xxxx

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By *onbons_xxMan  over a year ago

Bolton

I've been meaning to write on this but struggled to find the words. I've lived for a good few years in Liverpool and lived it, the people, the feel it has an attitude which I like. I was a relatively young 'un when Hillsborough happened and can't imagine what the families would have felt at the time whether they were dads, mum's, brothers or sisters who just went to a football match and didn't return. Imagine that, it's crazy.

Not afraid to say that I shed a tear this morning whilst thinking of other people and I'm fine with that. I won't let papers dictate how I feel or form opinions from, it may be the most popular paper in the country but to get it so wrong on this (again!) shows how out of touch it is. I'll carry on reading other sources.

More than the 96 people died that day, people have died in the process of bringing this to justice. I find justice a glib word as it doesn't really stop here, it's a victory but the fight goes on, it's one of the biggest scandals in British history and for the Sun and Timea to not acknowledge it on their front page (admittedly the Times corrected it in later editions) was unbelievable.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I have never been as proud of my city as i am right now.

Justice for the 96 Y.N.W.A. X

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By *ali 69Man  over a year ago

jersey

And let's not forget that Tory maggot Boris Johnson's part in kicking the families in their darkest hour , labeling Liverpool " Self pity City " , for wanting justice for the dead fans . It's just a joke to this man , even when he was forced to retract it he had a little smile on his face .

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By *B9 Queen OP   Woman  over a year ago

Over the rainbow, under the bridge

Interesting tweet from Stephen McGann:

One terrible warning from Hillsborough. If a nation can tell a 27 year lie at a match crowded with witnesses, no citizen is safe.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"And let's not forget that Tory maggot Boris Johnson's part in kicking the families in their darkest hour , labeling Liverpool " Self pity City " , for wanting justice for the dead fans . It's just a joke to this man , even when he was forced to retract it he had a little smile on his face ."

He's a tosser. Don't know who's more vile him or the people who voted for him.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I have never been as proud of my city as i am right now.

Justice for the 96 Y.N.W.A. X"

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"And let's not forget that Tory maggot Boris Johnson's part in kicking the families in their darkest hour , labeling Liverpool " Self pity City " , for wanting justice for the dead fans . It's just a joke to this man , even when he was forced to retract it he had a little smile on his face .

Yeah well said

He's a tosser. Don't know who's more vile him or the people who voted for him."

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By *at69driveMan  over a year ago

Hertford

The event was tragic and unfortunate , but no one see out to kill anyone ..

The important thing is that lessons were learned and procedures put in place to prevent such an event recurring .

If I had died in such circumstances ,as long as procedures were improved ,I would not want any member of my family wasting 27 years of their life fighting the authorities.

Fighting for justice usually means rectifying circumstances such as being imprisoned for a crime which you did not committ , not investigating accidental deaths .

It is interesting to note that the relatives of victims have have started a class action against the police and as such are hoping to gain financially out of these events .

We should also remember that all these investigations are funded by the tax payer . It would be interesting to see how many people would be keen on investigations if they had to fund them themselves .

Whilst the events were tragic , no one set out to kill anyone deliberately and what happened afterwards is probably irrelevant .

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"The event was tragic and unfortunate , but no one see out to kill anyone ..

The important thing is that lessons were learned and procedures put in place to prevent such an event recurring .

If I had died in such circumstances ,as long as procedures were improved ,I would not want any member of my family wasting 27 years of their life fighting the authorities.

Fighting for justice usually means rectifying circumstances such as being imprisoned for a crime which you did not committ , not investigating accidental deaths .

It is interesting to note that the relatives of victims have have started a class action against the police and as such are hoping to gain financially out of these events .

We should also remember that all these investigations are funded by the tax payer . It would be interesting to see how many people would be keen on investigations if they had to fund them themselves .

Whilst the events were tragic , no one set out to kill anyone deliberately and what happened afterwards is probably irrelevant .

"

Words actually fail me.

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By *cduck and Blue eyesCouple  over a year ago

nr chester


"The event was tragic and unfortunate , but no one see out to kill anyone ..

The important thing is that lessons were learned and procedures put in place to prevent such an event recurring .

If I had died in such circumstances ,as long as procedures were improved ,I would not want any member of my family wasting 27 years of their life fighting the authorities.

Fighting for justice usually means rectifying circumstances such as being imprisoned for a crime which you did not committ , not investigating accidental deaths .

It is interesting to note that the relatives of victims have have started a class action against the police and as such are hoping to gain financially out of these events .

We should also remember that all these investigations are funded by the tax payer . It would be interesting to see how many people would be keen on investigations if they had to fund them themselves .

Whilst the events were tragic , no one set out to kill anyone deliberately and what happened afterwards is probably irrelevant .

Words actually fail me. "

. And me

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"The event was tragic and unfortunate , but no one see out to kill anyone ..

The important thing is that lessons were learned and procedures put in place to prevent such an event recurring .

If I had died in such circumstances ,as long as procedures were improved ,I would not want any member of my family wasting 27 years of their life fighting the authorities.

Fighting for justice usually means rectifying circumstances such as being imprisoned for a crime which you did not committ , not investigating accidental deaths .

It is interesting to note that the relatives of victims have have started a class action against the police and as such are hoping to gain financially out of these events .

We should also remember that all these investigations are funded by the tax payer . It would be interesting to see how many people would be keen on investigations if they had to fund them themselves .

Whilst the events were tragic , no one set out to kill anyone deliberately and what happened afterwards is probably irrelevant .

"

As a tax payer I support these families in their fight for the TRUTH! Which thankfully was delivered.

It's alright you stating what you 've said when no family members of yours have died in this horrific way! I suspect if they did you t feel a lot differently.

I can totally can empathise with them having lost a relative to medical negligence and fighting the powers that be to find out what happened.

So yeah talks easy try damn well living with it!!

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By *cduck and Blue eyesCouple  over a year ago

nr chester


"The event was tragic and unfortunate , but no one see out to kill anyone ..

The important thing is that lessons were learned and procedures put in place to prevent such an event recurring .

If I had died in such circumstances ,as long as procedures were improved ,I would not want any member of my family wasting 27 years of their life fighting the authorities.

Fighting for justice usually means rectifying circumstances such as being imprisoned for a crime which you did not committ , not investigating accidental deaths .

It is interesting to note that the relatives of victims have have started a class action against the police and as such are hoping to gain financially out of these events .

We should also remember that all these investigations are funded by the tax payer . It would be interesting to see how many people would be keen on investigations if they had to fund them themselves .

Whilst the events were tragic , no one set out to kill anyone deliberately and what happened afterwards is probably irrelevant .

As a tax payer I support these families in their fight for the TRUTH! Which thankfully was delivered.

It's alright you stating what you 've said when no family members of yours have died in this horrific way! I suspect if they did you t feel a lot differently.

I can totally can empathise with them having lost a relative to medical negligence and fighting the powers that be to find out what happened.

So yeah talks easy try damn well living with it!!

"

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"The event was tragic and unfortunate , but no one see out to kill anyone ..

The important thing is that lessons were learned and procedures put in place to prevent such an event recurring .

If I had died in such circumstances ,as long as procedures were improved ,I would not want any member of my family wasting 27 years of their life fighting the authorities.

Fighting for justice usually means rectifying circumstances such as being imprisoned for a crime which you did not committ , not investigating accidental deaths .

It is interesting to note that the relatives of victims have have started a class action against the police and as such are hoping to gain financially out of these events .

We should also remember that all these investigations are funded by the tax payer . It would be interesting to see how many people would be keen on investigations if they had to fund them themselves .

Whilst the events were tragic , no one set out to kill anyone deliberately and what happened afterwards is probably irrelevant .

"

Sometimes I read your posts, shake my head and wonder.....

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"This tragedy could have happened to any fans, it just happened to be Liverpool fans, so if we take Liverpool out of it and find an ounce of compassion, we may just take a fuckin step back a minute and remember that lives were lost here. Families changed forever. Football changed forever. Any city, anywhere could be going through this right now... these were people!!

To go over a few points....

Yes there are some Everton fans who will buy the sun...in fact there may even be the odd Liverpool fan who still buys the sun..who knows?? But I'm telling you now, my family and friends are both Liverpool and Everton supporters and they stand together.

Tonight in Liverpool city centre, all fans have come together to celebrate this decision...standing together.

There will always be the odd arsehole Evertonian who has something clever to say...it's usually my Husband but on this subject, there is respect. Utmost respect!!

Now the questions posed by Gary earlier.

Yes there would have been d*unken fans...it was a football match.

Yes there would have been people turn up without tickets...it was a football match.

Yes there would have been pushing ad shoving...it was a football match.

It happens at EVERY match.

The fact remains is that these questions and thousands of others have been considered for 2 years. This case has been torn wide open and put back together again...we all know the verdict, there's no need to say it again.

So yes, the d*unks, the queue jumpers, the ticketless were there, but a judge and jury does not lay blame in their lap.

So, those who are quoting Liverpool did this and Liverpool fans did that at previous matches and tragedies... just remember that this could have been any match on any day with any fans. It could be your team and your family and friends who are still mourning.

Have some fuckin sense and compassion and think about how HORRIFIC these deaths must have been. How frightened they must have been. How helpless others were in watching people die.

God I would love you to ask those questions in my home town tonight pal!

Love from a lifelong LFC supporter, Liverpool born and bred and will remember that day for the rest of my life.

xx "

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By *at69driveMan  over a year ago

Hertford


"The event was tragic and unfortunate , but no one see out to kill anyone ..

The important thing is that lessons were learned and procedures put in place to prevent such an event recurring .

If I had died in such circumstances ,as long as procedures were improved ,I would not want any member of my family wasting 27 years of their life fighting the authorities.

Fighting for justice usually means rectifying circumstances such as being imprisoned for a crime which you did not committ , not investigating accidental deaths .

It is interesting to note that the relatives of victims have have started a class action against the police and as such are hoping to gain financially out of these events .

We should also remember that all these investigations are funded by the tax payer . It would be interesting to see how many people would be keen on investigations if they had to fund them themselves .

Whilst the events were tragic , no one set out to kill anyone deliberately and what happened afterwards is probably irrelevant .

As a tax payer I support these families in their fight for the TRUTH! Which thankfully was delivered.

It's alright you stating what you 've said when no family members of yours have died in this horrific way! I suspect if they did you t feel a lot differently.

I can totally can empathise with them having lost a relative to medical negligence and fighting the powers that be to find out what happened.

So yeah talks easy try damn well living with it!!

"

I wrote the post as someone who has sued a public organisation . I would like to think that I take a rational view when events such as this happen. Most people have experienced a traumatic event in life . Is anyone trying to claim that the deaths were deliberate ?.

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By *onathan14Man  over a year ago

Liverpool

If you follow any sport whatsoever, please

NEVER EVER BUY THE SUN

The pain and anguish caused by the scum hurt many thousands of people.

If 96 policemen would have died on that day thousands of football fan would have been jailed.

DON'T BUY THE SCUM

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"The event was tragic and unfortunate , but no one see out to kill anyone ..

The important thing is that lessons were learned and procedures put in place to prevent such an event recurring .

If I had died in such circumstances ,as long as procedures were improved ,I would not want any member of my family wasting 27 years of their life fighting the authorities.

Fighting for justice usually means rectifying circumstances such as being imprisoned for a crime which you did not committ , not investigating accidental deaths .

It is interesting to note that the relatives of victims have have started a class action against the police and as such are hoping to gain financially out of these events .

We should also remember that all these investigations are funded by the tax payer . It would be interesting to see how many people would be keen on investigations if they had to fund them themselves .

Whilst the events were tragic , no one set out to kill anyone deliberately and what happened afterwards is probably irrelevant .

As a tax payer I support these families in their fight for the TRUTH! Which thankfully was delivered.

It's alright you stating what you 've said when no family members of yours have died in this horrific way! I suspect if they did you t feel a lot differently.

I can totally can empathise with them having lost a relative to medical negligence and fighting the powers that be to find out what happened.

So yeah talks easy try damn well living with it!!

I wrote the post as someone who has sued a public organisation . I would like to think that I take a rational view when events such as this happen. Most people have experienced a traumatic event in life . Is anyone trying to claim that the deaths were deliberate ?. "

Not deliberate, but very much preventable.

I wish people would read up on the subject before commenting, there seems to be a lot of illenformed comments.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple  over a year ago

in Lancashire


"The event was tragic and unfortunate , but no one see out to kill anyone ..

The important thing is that lessons were learned and procedures put in place to prevent such an event recurring .

If I had died in such circumstances ,as long as procedures were improved ,I would not want any member of my family wasting 27 years of their life fighting the authorities.

Fighting for justice usually means rectifying circumstances such as being imprisoned for a crime which you did not committ , not investigating accidental deaths .

It is interesting to note that the relatives of victims have have started a class action against the police and as such are hoping to gain financially out of these events .

We should also remember that all these investigations are funded by the tax payer . It would be interesting to see how many people would be keen on investigations if they had to fund them themselves .

Whilst the events were tragic , no one set out to kill anyone deliberately and what happened afterwards is probably irrelevant .

Words actually fail me. "

Agree but given some of his previous posts absolutely no surprise by his contribution..

A lacking of humanity and empathy from one who espouses their 'Christian' outlook

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By *at69driveMan  over a year ago

Hertford


"The event was tragic and unfortunate , but no one see out to kill anyone ..

The important thing is that lessons were learned and procedures put in place to prevent such an event recurring .

If I had died in such circumstances ,as long as procedures were improved ,I would not want any member of my family wasting 27 years of their life fighting the authorities.

Fighting for justice usually means rectifying circumstances such as being imprisoned for a crime which you did not committ , not investigating accidental deaths .

It is interesting to note that the relatives of victims have have started a class action against the police and as such are hoping to gain financially out of these events .

We should also remember that all these investigations are funded by the tax payer . It would be interesting to see how many people would be keen on investigations if they had to fund them themselves .

Whilst the events were tragic , no one set out to kill anyone deliberately and what happened afterwards is probably irrelevant .

As a tax payer I support these families in their fight for the TRUTH! Which thankfully was delivered.

It's alright you stating what you 've said when no family members of yours have died in this horrific way! I suspect if they did you t feel a lot differently.

I can totally can empathise with them having lost a relative to medical negligence and fighting the powers that be to find out what happened.

So yeah talks easy try damn well living with it!!

I wrote the post as someone who has sued a public organisation . I would like to think that I take a rational view when events such as this happen. Most people have experienced a traumatic event in life . Is anyone trying to claim that the deaths were deliberate ?.

Not deliberate, but very much preventable.

I wish people would read up on the subject before commenting, there seems to be a lot of illenformed comments. "

. I thought that steps were taken a very long time ago to ensure that such an event would not happen again . If this is the case , it is difficult to see what a pubic enquiry /inquest has actually achieved .

It would be a different scenario if the events of the day were ignored .

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By *B9 Queen OP   Woman  over a year ago

Over the rainbow, under the bridge


"The event was tragic and unfortunate , but no one see out to kill anyone ..

The important thing is that lessons were learned and procedures put in place to prevent such an event recurring .

If I had died in such circumstances ,as long as procedures were improved ,I would not want any member of my family wasting 27 years of their life fighting the authorities.

Fighting for justice usually means rectifying circumstances such as being imprisoned for a crime which you did not committ , not investigating accidental deaths .

It is interesting to note that the relatives of victims have have started a class action against the police and as such are hoping to gain financially out of these events .

We should also remember that all these investigations are funded by the tax payer . It would be interesting to see how many people would be keen on investigations if they had to fund them themselves .

Whilst the events were tragic , no one set out to kill anyone deliberately and what happened afterwards is probably irrelevant .

As a tax payer I support these families in their fight for the TRUTH! Which thankfully was delivered.

It's alright you stating what you 've said when no family members of yours have died in this horrific way! I suspect if they did you t feel a lot differently.

I can totally can empathise with them having lost a relative to medical negligence and fighting the powers that be to find out what happened.

So yeah talks easy try damn well living with it!!

I wrote the post as someone who has sued a public organisation . I would like to think that I take a rational view when events such as this happen. Most people have experienced a traumatic event in life . Is anyone trying to claim that the deaths were deliberate ?.

Not deliberate, but very much preventable.

I wish people would read up on the subject before commenting, there seems to be a lot of illenformed comments. . I thought that steps were taken a very long time ago to ensure that such an event would not happen again . If this is the case , it is difficult to see what a pubic enquiry /inquest has actually achieved .

It would be a different scenario if the events of the day were ignored . "

What was achieved was the exposure of a catalogue of failures lies and corruption.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman  over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

and the smearing of the fan's behaviour was proven to be just that......

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple  over a year ago

in Lancashire


"The event was tragic and unfortunate , but no one see out to kill anyone ..

The important thing is that lessons were learned and procedures put in place to prevent such an event recurring .

If I had died in such circumstances ,as long as procedures were improved ,I would not want any member of my family wasting 27 years of their life fighting the authorities.

Fighting for justice usually means rectifying circumstances such as being imprisoned for a crime which you did not committ , not investigating accidental deaths .

It is interesting to note that the relatives of victims have have started a class action against the police and as such are hoping to gain financially out of these events .

We should also remember that all these investigations are funded by the tax payer . It would be interesting to see how many people would be keen on investigations if they had to fund them themselves .

Whilst the events were tragic , no one set out to kill anyone deliberately and what happened afterwards is probably irrelevant .

As a tax payer I support these families in their fight for the TRUTH! Which thankfully was delivered.

It's alright you stating what you 've said when no family members of yours have died in this horrific way! I suspect if they did you t feel a lot differently.

I can totally can empathise with them having lost a relative to medical negligence and fighting the powers that be to find out what happened.

So yeah talks easy try damn well living with it!!

I wrote the post as someone who has sued a public organisation . I would like to think that I take a rational view when events such as this happen. Most people have experienced a traumatic event in life . Is anyone trying to claim that the deaths were deliberate ?.

Not deliberate, but very much preventable.

I wish people would read up on the subject before commenting, there seems to be a lot of illenformed comments. . I thought that steps were taken a very long time ago to ensure that such an event would not happen again . If this is the case , it is difficult to see what a pubic enquiry /inquest has actually achieved .

It would be a different scenario if the events of the day were ignored . "

Previous issues had been ignored why don't you look at the facts instead of making ignorant assumptions?

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By *ali 69Man  over a year ago

jersey

I'm a tax payer . I pay for yank wars we get dragged into , royal kids I have never sired , olympic games I couldn't give a flying fuck about , bailing out criminal bankers , bent M.Ps and loads of other shit I don't use or don't agree with . I have no problem if my tax money goes towards this . My mates were there . You go kiss your kids and enjoy the love and joy they bring you , because there are families out there that can't . I won't trade my humanity in for a few shitty quid knocked off my tax bill .

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By *ost SockMan  over a year ago

West Wales and Cardiff


"The event was tragic and unfortunate , but no one see out to kill anyone ..

The important thing is that lessons were learned and procedures put in place to prevent such an event recurring .

If I had died in such circumstances ,as long as procedures were improved ,I would not want any member of my family wasting 27 years of their life fighting the authorities.

Fighting for justice usually means rectifying circumstances such as being imprisoned for a crime which you did not committ , not investigating accidental deaths .

It is interesting to note that the relatives of victims have have started a class action against the police and as such are hoping to gain financially out of these events .

We should also remember that all these investigations are funded by the tax payer . It would be interesting to see how many people would be keen on investigations if they had to fund them themselves .

Whilst the events were tragic , no one set out to kill anyone deliberately and what happened afterwards is probably irrelevant .

As a tax payer I support these families in their fight for the TRUTH! Which thankfully was delivered.

It's alright you stating what you 've said when no family members of yours have died in this horrific way! I suspect if they did you t feel a lot differently.

I can totally can empathise with them having lost a relative to medical negligence and fighting the powers that be to find out what happened.

So yeah talks easy try damn well living with it!!

I wrote the post as someone who has sued a public organisation . I would like to think that I take a rational view when events such as this happen. Most people have experienced a traumatic event in life . Is anyone trying to claim that the deaths were deliberate ?.

Not deliberate, but very much preventable.

I wish people would read up on the subject before commenting, there seems to be a lot of illenformed comments. . I thought that steps were taken a very long time ago to ensure that such an event would not happen again . If this is the case , it is difficult to see what a pubic enquiry /inquest has actually achieved .

It would be a different scenario if the events of the day were ignored . "

You really don't get this do you? The reason there have been inquiries is that police LIED from the very beginning and, in the process, traduced the death and her families.

How would you feel if a family member died and smear stories were put around that they were somehow culpable in those events.

I'll admit - the sheer scale and distgusting actions of South Yorkshire police didn't completely register until the recent events. They must face sanctions.

If I had died - I'd like to think my family members would accept an apology from people in high places if they said "look, we messed up, I'm truly sorry".

If I died and the people whose decisions led to my death tried to wriggle out of it, disseminate and blame others, I'd expect them to fight for a 100 years to get the truth out.

I am not an LFC fan and I am normally a supporter of the police.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Pats attitude doesn't even surprise me these days, and that's really a worrying thing.

The police have been brown shirts of the establishment for years, it just took a turn for the worse since Thatcher turned we into me!.

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I certainly never had a doubt that the authoritys were covering up wrong doings, they've been doing it for years and I look forward to the day when the Tories have to answer to what was covered up during the miners debarcle as well!

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By *atsun xxxMan  over a year ago

Nr LOUTH Lincolnshire

R.I.P the 96

May there names never be disrespected again. Y.N.W.A

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By *oo hotCouple  over a year ago

North West

No question that the Police cover up needed to be highlighted but I thought that happened in 2012 anyway? The Police have a lot to answer for throughout recent history - and not just the S Yorks Police. The cover up was a modern day disgrace.

I do personally find it bizarre however that the Hillsborough campaign is now almost unique in the way that any kind of dissenting voice must be quashed no matter what it's merit might be and there are questions that all football fans who attended matches in the 1970's and 80's think remain unanswered in respect of contributory factors.

The Press (including the Sun) are also at fault in not ensuring that all football tragedies are treated in the same time way and as a society we should demand that this is the case. In recent years, the FA and Liverpool have attempted to pass the olive branch to Juventus but what of Eufa and what of the Police? Why has the UK press not demanded justice for 39 innocents killed at a different football match? Is it because the victims were foreigners and somehow less important or is it because the blame was supposed to have already been laid at the feet of 13 Liverpool fans who served a year in prison for the indirect responsibility of the death of 39 "foreign" supporters? Whenever Heysel is mention, there is an inevitable shutdown of the conversation as if it were less important than Hillsborough. The aftermath of Heysel has not reflected well on Liverpool, the English FA, local Police and Eufa. As football supporters it ought to now be time that the UK Press and football supporters generally made a real effort to help the families of the 39 who have not yet seen justice.

PS - I am no fan of the Police in this country, nor indeed in any of the countries I have ever visited and the Police were very much significantly accountable for what happened at Heysel. They need to be brought to account, as does EUFA as do the English fans identified as leading the aggressive charges that directly led to the collapse of the wall. Why should 13 people serve one year in prison for allegedly being indirectly responsible for the deaths of 39 when others (including the Police and UEFA) were directly responsible?

Justice for all football fans who went to watch a game of football and came home in a coffin - no matter what their nationality.

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