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"only if the sun spend the same about of pages on the apology as they did smearing the good people who did nothing wrong..... starting on page 1 with the headline on page 1 "sorry, we got this one wrong ... big time" " They already did that some time ago .. | |||
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"only if the sun spend the same about of pages on the apology as they did smearing the good people who did nothing wrong..... starting on page 1 with the headline on page 1 "sorry, we got this one wrong ... big time" " Good answer Fabio. All my acquaintances in Liverpool won't even mention the Sun, I'm still surprised people read it generally, but in Liverpool it's still a big deal. Worth avoiding | |||
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"only if the sun spend the same about of pages on the apology as they did smearing the good people who did nothing wrong..... starting on page 1 with the headline on page 1 "sorry, we got this one wrong ... big time" They already did that some time ago .. " And Kelvin Mackenzie then later retracted his apology citing murdoch forcing him to do it. | |||
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"only if the sun spend the same about of pages on the apology as they did smearing the good people who did nothing wrong..... starting on page 1 with the headline on page 1 "sorry, we got this one wrong ... big time" They already did that some time ago .. And Kelvin Mackenzie then later retracted his apology citing murdoch forcing him to do it. " Ah did he? I wasn't aware of that ![]() | |||
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"I didn't boycott it over Hillsboro, I boycotted it over pushing Murdochs political agenda and the phone bugging scandal " I boycotted it because it was crap and an affront to people's intelligence. | |||
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"I didn't boycott it over Hillsboro, I boycotted it over pushing Murdochs political agenda and the phone bugging scandal " ....I would just be afraid someone I know saw me reading it.... ![]() | |||
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"I didn't boycott it over Hillsboro, I boycotted it over pushing Murdochs political agenda and the phone bugging scandal I boycotted it because it was crap and an affront to people's intelligence. " I don't mind having my intelligence insulted, it usually means people have underestimated me. All newspapers have an agenda, the art is to see through that and find the real story. | |||
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"only if the sun spend the same about of pages on the apology as they did smearing the good people who did nothing wrong..... starting on page 1 with the headline on page 1 "sorry, we got this one wrong ... big time" They already did that some time ago .. And Kelvin Mackenzie then later retracted his apology citing murdoch forcing him to do it. Ah did he? I wasn't aware of that ![]() Yes he did after sales of the rag plummeted in Liverpool and beyond. MacKenzie then dined out on the story for years afterwards proclaiming he told the "Truth" and was made to apologise. A good friend of mine walked out of a dinner in Newcastle where MacKenzie was speaking, in utter disgust. For any of you who question us Scousers for continuing to boycott this vile rag put yourself in the families of the 96s position. Or anyone from Liverpool who were called liars thieves and scum by the very scum who facilitated the cover up. | |||
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"only if the sun spend the same about of pages on the apology as they did smearing the good people who did nothing wrong..... starting on page 1 with the headline on page 1 "sorry, we got this one wrong ... big time" They already did that some time ago .. And Kelvin Mackenzie then later retracted his apology citing murdoch forcing him to do it. Ah did he? I wasn't aware of that ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"I buy the Sun every day. When I was a kid we would use old newspaper for toiletery purposes. The Sun is perfect for wiping my arse lol " It leaves more shit on than it takes off, tbh | |||
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"I buy the Sun every day. When I was a kid we would use old newspaper for toiletery purposes. The Sun is perfect for wiping my arse lol Read it you ask ? No never as it is utter shite. By the way did you see Kelvin Mckenzie on the news tonight ? What a disgusting and loathsome bastard. If I had been near him you would have had to have held me back. There you go - rant over. God Bless the Hillsborough 96 and their families. So brave and so unflinching in their pursuit of justice. God Bless you. PS.Is it true that Rupert Murdoch is going to issue an apology to the people of Liverpool? " I've no idea what Murdoch intends to do but I've a feeling he'll be told to shove it where a certain shitty publication of his doesn't shine. | |||
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"I boycott The Sun for many reasons not just this one. Vile, vile paper" Ditto | |||
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"Apology printed today on pages 5 and 6 apparently. Why was it not on the front like the original lies were? " Because it wouldn't want more attention would it? Such a cowardly newspaper. | |||
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"I didn't boycott it over Hillsboro, I boycotted it over pushing Murdochs political agenda and the phone bugging scandal I boycotted it because it was crap and an affront to people's intelligence. I don't mind having my intelligence insulted, it usually means people have underestimated me. All newspapers have an agenda, the art is to see through that and find the real story. " Find the real story......? In the Sun??? Good luck with that Poirot! | |||
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"The Sun is still boycotted 26 years after the tragedy. It's unlikely this will change. Many newsagents refuse to even stock it. Will anyone be either continuing to boycott it or begin to in the light of the decision in court today? " I only heard on radio yesterday what the sun had said and printed in newspapers which cannot be repeated here or anywhere, its not often the sun newspaper shocks me with bad reporting but this was a disgrace | |||
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"I didn't boycott it over Hillsboro, I boycotted it over pushing Murdochs political agenda and the phone bugging scandal I boycotted it because it was crap and an affront to people's intelligence. I don't mind having my intelligence insulted, it usually means people have underestimated me. All newspapers have an agenda, the art is to see through that and find the real story. Find the real story......? In the Sun??? Good luck with that Poirot!" Never let the truth get in the way of a good story | |||
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"only if the sun spend the same about of pages on the apology as they did smearing the good people who did nothing wrong..... starting on page 1 with the headline on page 1 "sorry, we got this one wrong ... big time" They already did that some time ago .. And Kelvin Mackenzie then later retracted his apology citing murdoch forcing him to do it. " That cretin* was also shown yesterday saying "In a strange way, I kind of caught up in it" ![]() | |||
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"I didn't boycott it over Hillsboro, I boycotted it over pushing Murdochs political agenda and the phone bugging scandal I boycotted it because it was crap and an affront to people's intelligence. " ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"Spousers are often ridiculed and the brunt of many jokes; we take it on the chin and to be fair some of the stereotypical comments have been quite accurate over the years. We just laugh it off. I haven't always been proud of my place of birth but yesterday I was. Liverpool stood together as one, breath held, waiting for that verdict and it was like a heavy, dark cloud was lifted from over the city. I'd say all of us knew someone at the match that day or have a story to tell of where we where when the news broke 27 years ago. We will never forget and I'm afraid, in the case of 'that newspaper', we will never forgive either. To our friends and family members who went out to enjoy a great day of football and never came home... YWNA xxx" ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"I dont read the sun for this reason. Of course yesterdays conclusion could have been reached within 6 months of the tragedy. High ranking officers in the yorkshire police have lied and conspired with govt to cover up the truth. Helped by the media in creating a false narrative.Investigated by west midlands police who it would appear have also lied & conspired. I will be surprised if any criminal charges are brought. The CPS will no doubt trot out lame excuses that no one really buys as to why they cannot prosecute. But i wont feel justice has been done untill some lengthy prison sentences are dished out." . ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"Would never ever buy it. and if you can you should be going to: The Commemorative Memorial Service this Evening. 5.45pm Wednesday 27 April on Liverpool's St George's Hall plateau. We will be there." Light a candle for me to pls xxx | |||
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"Would never ever buy it. and if you can you should be going to: The Commemorative Memorial Service this Evening. 5.45pm Wednesday 27 April on Liverpool's St George's Hall plateau. We will be there. Light a candle for me to pls xxx" I will Baby. TY for asking me to. Cat X | |||
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"The Sun have NO coverage of Hillsborough on their front page today and are ONCE again apologising. " The BBC said it was on pages 5 and 6. It should have been on the front. | |||
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"Spousers are often ridiculed and the brunt of many jokes; we take it on the chin and to be fair some of the stereotypical comments have been quite accurate over the years. We just laugh it off. I haven't always been proud of my place of birth but yesterday I was. Liverpool stood together as one, breath held, waiting for that verdict and it was like a heavy, dark cloud was lifted from over the city. I'd say all of us knew someone at the match that day or have a story to tell of where we where when the news broke 27 years ago. We will never forget and I'm afraid, in the case of 'that newspaper', we will never forgive either. To our friends and family members who went out to enjoy a great day of football and never came home... YWNA xxx" Well said, we have brought much upon our own heads over the years. Yesterday I hope removed the veils from many eyes regarding Liverpool. With regards to the State/Police/Media I will borrow the motto of our Scots brethren "Nemo Me Impune Lacessit" | |||
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"And scousers never buy the Sun ..." not this one nor anyone in my extended family or friends either.. not just because of the lies they printed (they were not alone) but for many reasons, ditto i will never buy sky or anything like that.. | |||
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"And scousers never buy the Sun ..." No Scousers I know buy it, so your point is what exactly??? ![]() | |||
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"There will be a lot of high profile names adjusting there bicycle clips now, let's hope for the 96 they get all the shit they deserve, we Geordies never doubted the scousers for one minute , it's just a shame it's taken all these years to get to the truth that they were real football fans and not the people they were portrayed to be by the poxy newspaper and certain other politicians" ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"And scousers never buy the Sun ... No Scousers I know buy it, so your point is what exactly??? ![]() It is a great song. | |||
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"And scousers never buy the Sun ... No Scousers I know buy it, so your point is what exactly??? ![]() For those that don't know Billy Bragg's anthem "Never Buy The Sun" http://youtu.be/l1P6KUyOhBc | |||
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"If it wasn't for the fucking hooligans who caused the need for fences to be erected in the first place. They'd still be here. Rip peeps" Mmm I would say fair point. But didn't happen any where else. Rip 96 | |||
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"I like that the only reason for not buying the Sun for several users is how they reported this story. Why isn't poor quality yellow journalism a good enough reason? It's shit and heavily biased. " ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"And scousers never buy the Sun ... No Scousers I know buy it, so your point is what exactly??? ![]() Just listened to it | |||
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"I like that the only reason for not buying the Sun for several users is how they reported this story. Why isn't poor quality yellow journalism a good enough reason? It's shit and heavily biased. " Because in 1989 I was 25. I had only looked at the Sun as a teenager for Page 3 and the sport. I stopped looking at that excuse for a rag immediately after Hillsborough deciding then it was vile. Everything I understand about it since has served only to reinforce that feeling, but nothing it does will make me feel as disgusted as the day McKensie published the vile lies. | |||
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"If it wasn't for the fucking hooligans who caused the need for fences to be erected in the first place. They'd still be here. Rip peeps" "Fucking hooligans" didnt cause the disaster. Fencing didnt cause the disaster. A jury took 2 years to work out exactly what and who caused the disaster. If it wasn't for the policing policies that day among other events, 96 people would still be with us. | |||
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"I like that the only reason for not buying the Sun for several users is how they reported this story. Why isn't poor quality yellow journalism a good enough reason? It's shit and heavily biased. " That's reason enough, Hillsborough lies. Everything else is secondary. Being a Scouser and old enough to remember what it did to my home city poor quality journalism is totally irrelevant ![]() | |||
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"If it wasn't for the fucking hooligans who caused the need for fences to be erected in the first place. They'd still be here. Rip peeps "Fucking hooligans" didnt cause the disaster. Fencing didnt cause the disaster. A jury took 2 years to work out exactly what and who caused the disaster. If it wasn't for the policing policies that day among other events, 96 people would still be with us. " i think she ment hooligans in general at other stadiums here and also in europe that caused the fencing to be erected in stadiums. Can't believe its taken so long to get justice.. | |||
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" So did everyone form a orderly queue to get in ? Nobody turned up ticketless ? And nobody was d*unk ??? " None of those were reasons why 96 people died. Thank fuck, you weren't on the jury ![]() | |||
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"Just answer the questions truthfully " Read the answers from the inquests http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/apr/26/14-questions-the-hillsborough-jury-must-answer?CMP=twt_gu | |||
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" So did everyone form a orderly queue to get in ? Nobody turned up ticketless ? And nobody was d*unk ??? " None of those were reasons why 96 people died. Thank fuck, you weren't on the jury ![]() | |||
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" So did everyone form a orderly queue to get in ? Nobody turned up ticketless ? And nobody was d*unk ??? " I don't think you are a tosser at all, you have answered how you want to answer and you share the same opinion of many many people, I know Everton fans that say exactly what you have said and they also think its pathetic that Liverpool fans have boycotted the sun newspaper | |||
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"Would never ever buy it. and if you can you should be going to: The Commemorative Memorial Service this Evening. 5.45pm Wednesday 27 April on Liverpool's St George's Hall plateau. We will be there. Light a candle for me to pls xxx" You can watch on channel 429 LFCTV...yes on SKY. | |||
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" So did everyone form a orderly queue to get in ? Nobody turned up ticketless ? And nobody was d*unk ??? I don't think you are a tosser at all, you have answered how you want to answer and you share the same opinion of many many people, I know Everton fans that say exactly what you have said and they also think its pathetic that Liverpool fans have boycotted the sun newspaper " No they don't. TRUE Everton fans supported the Hillsborough families in their quest for justice. I'm from Liverpool and have many Everton fans as friends. I suppose making vile statements like yours is one way of getting attention. How pathetic. | |||
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" So did everyone form a orderly queue to get in ? Nobody turned up ticketless ? And nobody was d*unk ??? " Best thing to do when you have no knowledge of the subject is to just not comment at all. | |||
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" So did everyone form a orderly queue to get in ? Nobody turned up ticketless ? And nobody was d*unk ??? None of those were reasons why 96 people died. Thank fuck, you weren't on the jury ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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" So did everyone form a orderly queue to get in ? Nobody turned up ticketless ? And nobody was d*unk ??? " Last I understood these were not deserving of a death sentence. Furthermore, I believe a 2 year case and decades of investigation have proven that the fans were not to blame. So quite why you pose such questions about those things which were NOT IN ANY WAY considered contributory factors is beyond me unless your sole intention in doing so is to upset people. In which case. Well done. Target achieved. Now, if you wouldn't mind, the grown ups would like to continue the discussion. | |||
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" So did everyone form a orderly queue to get in ? Nobody turned up ticketless ? And nobody was d*unk ??? I don't think you are a tosser at all, you have answered how you want to answer and you share the same opinion of many many people, I know Everton fans that say exactly what you have said and they also think its pathetic that Liverpool fans have boycotted the sun newspaper No they don't. TRUE Everton fans supported the Hillsborough families in their quest for justice. I'm from Liverpool and have many Everton fans as friends. I suppose making vile statements like yours is one way of getting attention. How pathetic." I'm not pathetic at all, I have told the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth. Obviously you know Everton fans and I know Everton fans but maybe, just maybe they aren't the same ones ! | |||
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" So did everyone form a orderly queue to get in ? Nobody turned up ticketless ? And nobody was d*unk ??? I don't think you are a tosser at all, you have answered how you want to answer and you share the same opinion of many many people, I know Everton fans that say exactly what you have said and they also think its pathetic that Liverpool fans have boycotted the sun newspaper " Think you'll find that it's not just Liverpool fans that have boycotted the paper, none followers of football like myself don't buy it. | |||
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" So did everyone form a orderly queue to get in ? Nobody turned up ticketless ? And nobody was d*unk ??? I don't think you are a tosser at all, you have answered how you want to answer and you share the same opinion of many many people, I know Everton fans that say exactly what you have said and they also think its pathetic that Liverpool fans have boycotted the sun newspaper No they don't. TRUE Everton fans supported the Hillsborough families in their quest for justice. I'm from Liverpool and have many Everton fans as friends. I suppose making vile statements like yours is one way of getting attention. How pathetic. I'm not pathetic at all, I have told the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth. Obviously you know Everton fans and I know Everton fans but maybe, just maybe they aren't the same ones ! " Thank fuck. No true Scouser would agree with you. And yes your statement is attention seeking and pathetic and wrong. | |||
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" So did everyone form a orderly queue to get in ? Nobody turned up ticketless ? And nobody was d*unk ??? Last I understood these were not deserving of a death sentence. Furthermore, I believe a 2 year case and decades of investigation have proven that the fans were not to blame. So quite why you pose such questions about those things which were NOT IN ANY WAY considered contributory factors is beyond me unless your sole intention in doing so is to upset people. In which case. Well done. Target achieved. Now, if you wouldn't mind, the grown ups would like to continue the discussion. " ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"only if the sun spend the same about of pages on the apology as they did smearing the good people who did nothing wrong..... starting on page 1 with the headline on page 1 "sorry, we got this one wrong ... big time" " ![]() | |||
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" So did everyone form a orderly queue to get in ? Nobody turned up ticketless ? And nobody was d*unk ??? Last I understood these were not deserving of a death sentence. Furthermore, I believe a 2 year case and decades of investigation have proven that the fans were not to blame. So quite why you pose such questions about those things which were NOT IN ANY WAY considered contributory factors is beyond me unless your sole intention in doing so is to upset people. In which case. Well done. Target achieved. Now, if you wouldn't mind, the grown ups would like to continue the discussion. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() How on earth am I attention seeking by giving my opinion and the opinion of some Everton fans I know ? | |||
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" So did everyone form a orderly queue to get in ? Nobody turned up ticketless ? And nobody was d*unk ??? Last I understood these were not deserving of a death sentence. Furthermore, I believe a 2 year case and decades of investigation have proven that the fans were not to blame. So quite why you pose such questions about those things which were NOT IN ANY WAY considered contributory factors is beyond me unless your sole intention in doing so is to upset people. In which case. Well done. Target achieved. Now, if you wouldn't mind, the grown ups would like to continue the discussion. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() All the more reason not to feed the trolls. | |||
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"I will continue to buy the sun!!!! Have the sun apologised yes they have twice also have Liverpool apologised for hysel or apologised for the disgusting Munich chants or airplane arms that regularly gets made at old Trafford - nope. I was called a Munich a couple a months ago by a kopite. Let me also clarify something as well 27 years for an inquest is shocking. This should have been done straight away!!!! " You will get slated for that mate, you aren't allowed to say what you feel | |||
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"Who do you blame for heysel ? " Liverpool fans started all the trouble that day but its never there fault | |||
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" So did everyone form a orderly queue to get in ? Nobody turned up ticketless ? And nobody was d*unk ??? " I travel home and away with both my team and with England and that still happens. The inquest said Liverpool fans were blameless so we have to stick by it | |||
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"Who do you blame for heysel ? Liverpool fans started all the trouble that day but its never there fault " This thread is not about that. Please open your own about Heysel if you wish. | |||
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"Aaaaand back to the question. Anyone still or going to be boycotting The Sun?" I don't buy the sun , it's not really are boycot as such but their handling of this and other things made me come to the conclusion that they're all a bunch of cunts years ago. | |||
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"Always the victims springs to mind never there fault " Tired and old cliche that only gets sung on the terraces when you're surrounded by people of similar intelligence. | |||
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"Always the victims springs to mind never there fault " Their ![]() | |||
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"Aaaaand back to the question. Anyone still or going to be boycotting The Sun?" Boycott the Sun Then subscribe to LFCTV on SKY Both owned by the same person. What's the point. | |||
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" So did everyone form a orderly queue to get in ? Nobody turned up ticketless ? And nobody was d*unk ??? Last I understood these were not deserving of a death sentence. Furthermore, I believe a 2 year case and decades of investigation have proven that the fans were not to blame. So quite why you pose such questions about those things which were NOT IN ANY WAY considered contributory factors is beyond me unless your sole intention in doing so is to upset people. In which case. Well done. Target achieved. Now, if you wouldn't mind, the grown ups would like to continue the discussion. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Opinions are like arseholes.... The verdict yesterday is all that matters. Say your opinion in Liverpool to anyone regardless of what team they support and I guarantee you won't like the reaction. Anyone is free to buy whatever "newspaper" they like. Says more about them to buy a rag like that. | |||
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"Aaaaand back to the question. Anyone still or going to be boycotting The Sun? Boycott the Sun Then subscribe to LFCTV on SKY Both owned by the same person. What's the point." Is this true that the owner owns both ? | |||
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"Always the victims springs to mind never there fault Tired and old cliche that only gets sung on the terraces when you're surrounded by people of similar intelligence. " ![]() ![]() | |||
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"Aaaaand back to the question. Anyone still or going to be boycotting The Sun? Boycott the Sun Then subscribe to LFCTV on SKY Both owned by the same person. What's the point. Is this true that the owner owns both ? " Murdoch | |||
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"Aaaaand back to the question. Anyone still or going to be boycotting The Sun? Boycott the Sun Then subscribe to LFCTV on SKY Both owned by the same person. What's the point. Is this true that the owner owns both ? " Ah can see what you're doing now ![]() | |||
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"Just answer the questions truthfully " the question you ask and many other have been asked and there has been 2 years of an inquest which totally exonerated the fans on that day of any blame.. the Hillsborough Independent Panel also found there was no blame.. fucks sake even Lord Justice Taylor put the blame in his inquiry upon the South Yorkshire Police force.. look within all those for your answers.. | |||
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"Aaaaand back to the question. Anyone still or going to be boycotting The Sun? Boycott the Sun Then subscribe to LFCTV on SKY Both owned by the same person. What's the point. Is this true that the owner owns both ? Murdoch " Not trying to change the subject at all but your pantie picture from 6th October is amazing but that's just my opinion ![]() | |||
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"So do Liverpool fans watch Liverpool TV on sky ? " You seem to know a lot about Scousers why not ask them? Fucking hell you must be short on attention with the shit you are coming out with on here. | |||
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"There's saying how you feel and there's making nasty attention seeking bitchy comments. Out of interest whereabouts in Liverpool are you from? " I'm honestly not seeking attention at all and I will say "sorry" on here to you and you only if I have offended you in any way as I haven't done it on purpose but my opinion is what I've stated and yes my Everton friends who are season ticket holders may I add did and still do say what I said earlier | |||
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"There's saying how you feel and there's making nasty attention seeking bitchy comments. Out of interest whereabouts in Liverpool are you from? I'm honestly not seeking attention at all and I will say "sorry" on here to you and you only if I have offended you in any way as I haven't done it on purpose but my opinion is what I've stated and yes my Everton friends who are season ticket holders may I add did and still do say what I said earlier " You're coming across quite differently I can assure you. | |||
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"only if the sun spend the same about of pages on the apology as they did smearing the good people who did nothing wrong..... starting on page 1 with the headline on page 1 "sorry, we got this one wrong ... big time" They already did that some time ago .. And Kelvin Mackenzie then later retracted his apology citing murdoch forcing him to do it. " . Private eye reported years after the deaths that kelvin mackenzie was at a private corporate event and a businessman asked him did he mean shat he said about the fans in his newspaper . He replied that he " meant every word . " The snake yesterday backpeddled and tried to lie through his teeth to a reporter about it . 4 of my mates went that match , 3 came back . We only found out our 4th friend was alive in a hospital 4 days later . He was crushed under dead bodies . He has never psychologically recovered . So yes , us scousers will never forgive that aussie maggot . | |||
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"Aaaaand back to the question. Anyone still or going to be boycotting The Sun? Boycott the Sun Then subscribe to LFCTV on SKY Both owned by the same person. What's the point. Is this true that the owner owns both ? Murdoch " The point I was making was...if I was boycotting one,I would boycott the other as well.I wouldn't want to put money into the owners pockets. | |||
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"The Sun is still boycotted 26 years after the tragedy. It's unlikely this will change. Many newsagents refuse to even stock it. Will anyone be either continuing to boycott it or begin to in the light of the decision in court today? " I do but I have Sky broadband,, so I am very shallow | |||
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"I will continue to buy the sun!!!! Have the sun apologised yes they have twice also have Liverpool apologised for hysel or apologised for the disgusting Munich chants or airplane arms that regularly gets made at old Trafford - nope. I was called a Munich a couple a months ago by a kopite. Let me also clarify something as well 27 years for an inquest is shocking. This should have been done straight away!!!! " no one is saying you shouldn't buy the sun, crack on.. Heysel was a tragedy and Liverpool fans were jailed for their part in it.. there is a plaque in the centenary stand at Anfield and the club has apologised and the fans have also said sorry.. Munich chants and Hillsborough chants are equally vile and i'll say it again there is no need for the hate that some on here of different teams display to others.. at the recent game at Old Trafford UEFA looked into the Man U fans chanting, who started it..? does it matter? its equally wrong and its only when people put away their pathetic hatred for people who support a different football team that some decency will prevail.. | |||
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"This tragedy could have happened to any fans, it just happened to be Liverpool fans, so if we take Liverpool out of it and find an ounce of compassion, we may just take a fuckin step back a minute and remember that lives were lost here. Families changed forever. Football changed forever. Any city, anywhere could be going through this right now... these were people!! To go over a few points.... Yes there are some Everton fans who will buy the sun...in fact there may even be the odd Liverpool fan who still buys the sun..who knows?? But I'm telling you now, my family and friends are both Liverpool and Everton supporters and they stand together. Tonight in Liverpool city centre, all fans have come together to celebrate this decision...standing together. There will always be the odd arsehole Evertonian who has something clever to say...it's usually my Husband but on this subject, there is respect. Utmost respect!! Now the questions posed by Gary earlier. Yes there would have been d*unken fans...it was a football match. Yes there would have been people turn up without tickets...it was a football match. Yes there would have been pushing ad shoving...it was a football match. It happens at EVERY match. The fact remains is that these questions and thousands of others have been considered for 2 years. This case has been torn wide open and put back together again...we all know the verdict, there's no need to say it again. So yes, the d*unks, the queue jumpers, the ticketless were there, but a judge and jury does not lay blame in their lap. So, those who are quoting Liverpool did this and Liverpool fans did that at previous matches and tragedies... just remember that this could have been any match on any day with any fans. It could be your team and your family and friends who are still mourning. Have some fuckin sense and compassion and think about how HORRIFIC these deaths must have been. How frightened they must have been. How helpless others were in watching people die. God I would love you to ask those questions in my home town tonight pal! Love from a lifelong LFC supporter, Liverpool born and bred and will remember that day for the rest of my life. xx " Fucking well said !! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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" So did everyone form a orderly queue to get in ? Nobody turned up ticketless ? And nobody was d*unk ??? I don't think you are a tosser at all, you have answered how you want to answer and you share the same opinion of many many people, I know Everton fans that say exactly what you have said and they also think its pathetic that Liverpool fans have boycotted the sun newspaper No they don't. TRUE Everton fans supported the Hillsborough families in their quest for justice. I'm from Liverpool and have many Everton fans as friends. I suppose making vile statements like yours is one way of getting attention. How pathetic. I'm not pathetic at all, I have told the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth. Obviously you know Everton fans and I know Everton fans but maybe, just maybe they aren't the same ones ! " No doubt you know the ones who sang "Always the victim" at the Derby last week. | |||
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"This tragedy could have happened to any fans, it just happened to be Liverpool fans, so if we take Liverpool out of it and find an ounce of compassion, we may just take a fuckin step back a minute and remember that lives were lost here. Families changed forever. Football changed forever. Any city, anywhere could be going through this right now... these were people!! To go over a few points.... Yes there are some Everton fans who will buy the sun...in fact there may even be the odd Liverpool fan who still buys the sun..who knows?? But I'm telling you now, my family and friends are both Liverpool and Everton supporters and they stand together. Tonight in Liverpool city centre, all fans have come together to celebrate this decision...standing together. There will always be the odd arsehole Evertonian who has something clever to say...it's usually my Husband but on this subject, there is respect. Utmost respect!! Now the questions posed by Gary earlier. Yes there would have been d*unken fans...it was a football match. Yes there would have been people turn up without tickets...it was a football match. Yes there would have been pushing ad shoving...it was a football match. It happens at EVERY match. The fact remains is that these questions and thousands of others have been considered for 2 years. This case has been torn wide open and put back together again...we all know the verdict, there's no need to say it again. So yes, the d*unks, the queue jumpers, the ticketless were there, but a judge and jury does not lay blame in their lap. So, those who are quoting Liverpool did this and Liverpool fans did that at previous matches and tragedies... just remember that this could have been any match on any day with any fans. It could be your team and your family and friends who are still mourning. Have some fuckin sense and compassion and think about how HORRIFIC these deaths must have been. How frightened they must have been. How helpless others were in watching people die. God I would love you to ask those questions in my home town tonight pal! Love from a lifelong LFC supporter, Liverpool born and bred and will remember that day for the rest of my life. xx " ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"This tragedy could have happened to any fans, it just happened to be Liverpool fans, so if we take Liverpool out of it and find an ounce of compassion, we may just take a fuckin step back a minute and remember that lives were lost here. Families changed forever. Football changed forever. Any city, anywhere could be going through this right now... these were people!! To go over a few points.... Yes there are some Everton fans who will buy the sun...in fact there may even be the odd Liverpool fan who still buys the sun..who knows?? But I'm telling you now, my family and friends are both Liverpool and Everton supporters and they stand together. Tonight in Liverpool city centre, all fans have come together to celebrate this decision...standing together. There will always be the odd arsehole Evertonian who has something clever to say...it's usually my Husband but on this subject, there is respect. Utmost respect!! Now the questions posed by Gary earlier. Yes there would have been d*unken fans...it was a football match. Yes there would have been people turn up without tickets...it was a football match. Yes there would have been pushing ad shoving...it was a football match. It happens at EVERY match. The fact remains is that these questions and thousands of others have been considered for 2 years. This case has been torn wide open and put back together again...we all know the verdict, there's no need to say it again. So yes, the d*unks, the queue jumpers, the ticketless were there, but a judge and jury does not lay blame in their lap. So, those who are quoting Liverpool did this and Liverpool fans did that at previous matches and tragedies... just remember that this could have been any match on any day with any fans. It could be your team and your family and friends who are still mourning. Have some fuckin sense and compassion and think about how HORRIFIC these deaths must have been. How frightened they must have been. How helpless others were in watching people die. God I would love you to ask those questions in my home town tonight pal! Love from a lifelong LFC supporter, Liverpool born and bred and will remember that day for the rest of my life. xx " well said.. ![]() | |||
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"This tragedy could have happened to any fans, it just happened to be Liverpool fans, so if we take Liverpool out of it and find an ounce of compassion, we may just take a fuckin step back a minute and remember that lives were lost here. Families changed forever. Football changed forever. Any city, anywhere could be going through this right now... these were people!! To go over a few points.... Yes there are some Everton fans who will buy the sun...in fact there may even be the odd Liverpool fan who still buys the sun..who knows?? But I'm telling you now, my family and friends are both Liverpool and Everton supporters and they stand together. Tonight in Liverpool city centre, all fans have come together to celebrate this decision...standing together. There will always be the odd arsehole Evertonian who has something clever to say...it's usually my Husband but on this subject, there is respect. Utmost respect!! Now the questions posed by Gary earlier. Yes there would have been d*unken fans...it was a football match. Yes there would have been people turn up without tickets...it was a football match. Yes there would have been pushing ad shoving...it was a football match. It happens at EVERY match. The fact remains is that these questions and thousands of others have been considered for 2 years. This case has been torn wide open and put back together again...we all know the verdict, there's no need to say it again. So yes, the d*unks, the queue jumpers, the ticketless were there, but a judge and jury does not lay blame in their lap. So, those who are quoting Liverpool did this and Liverpool fans did that at previous matches and tragedies... just remember that this could have been any match on any day with any fans. It could be your team and your family and friends who are still mourning. Have some fuckin sense and compassion and think about how HORRIFIC these deaths must have been. How frightened they must have been. How helpless others were in watching people die. God I would love you to ask those questions in my home town tonight pal! Love from a lifelong LFC supporter, Liverpool born and bred and will remember that day for the rest of my life. xx " ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"The Sun is still boycotted 26 years after the tragedy. It's unlikely this will change. Many newsagents refuse to even stock it. Will anyone be either continuing to boycott it or begin to in the light of the decision in court today? " . As the event happened twenty six years ago, it is if little relevance to day . It is importance to remember that 96 peop!e lost their lives . The key thing is that measures were put in place to prevent such an tragedy occurring again . I don't believe that many people newspapers would spread false information . They can only rely on information fed to them at the time and the time scale to investigate it's accuracy would be very limited . Again I fail to believe that anyone deliberately caused this tragedy and as such to call for manslaughter prosecution is ridiculous . Our sympathies should be with the families of those who lost their lives , though a few did appear to be unable to come to terms with what happened. As steps had been put in place a long time ago to prevent the possibility of such a tragedy recurring , the recent enquiry could be considered to be a waste of public funds . | |||
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"This tragedy could have happened to any fans, it just happened to be Liverpool fans, so if we take Liverpool out of it and find an ounce of compassion, we may just take a fuckin step back a minute and remember that lives were lost here. Families changed forever. Football changed forever. Any city, anywhere could be going through this right now... these were people!! To go over a few points.... Yes there are some Everton fans who will buy the sun...in fact there may even be the odd Liverpool fan who still buys the sun..who knows?? But I'm telling you now, my family and friends are both Liverpool and Everton supporters and they stand together. Tonight in Liverpool city centre, all fans have come together to celebrate this decision...standing together. There will always be the odd arsehole Evertonian who has something clever to say...it's usually my Husband but on this subject, there is respect. Utmost respect!! Now the questions posed by Gary earlier. Yes there would have been d*unken fans...it was a football match. Yes there would have been people turn up without tickets...it was a football match. Yes there would have been pushing ad shoving...it was a football match. It happens at EVERY match. The fact remains is that these questions and thousands of others have been considered for 2 years. This case has been torn wide open and put back together again...we all know the verdict, there's no need to say it again. So yes, the d*unks, the queue jumpers, the ticketless were there, but a judge and jury does not lay blame in their lap. So, those who are quoting Liverpool did this and Liverpool fans did that at previous matches and tragedies... just remember that this could have been any match on any day with any fans. It could be your team and your family and friends who are still mourning. Have some fuckin sense and compassion and think about how HORRIFIC these deaths must have been. How frightened they must have been. How helpless others were in watching people die. God I would love you to ask those questions in my home town tonight pal! Love from a lifelong LFC supporter, Liverpool born and bred and will remember that day for the rest of my life. xx " From a fellow Scouser and LFC lifelong supporter well said ![]() | |||
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"It could have happened to any club and any set of fans. If people just read up about it and looked at it from an impartial view instead of a " we hate scousers/ Liverpool / that football team" view they would have been horrified at the cover up and lies that were told about innocent people who lost their lives. I am just glad that the families didn't give up " ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"The Sun is still boycotted 26 years after the tragedy. It's unlikely this will change. Many newsagents refuse to even stock it. Will anyone be either continuing to boycott it or begin to in the light of the decision in court today? . As the event happened twenty six years ago, it is if little relevance to day . It is importance to remember that 96 peop!e lost their lives . The key thing is that measures were put in place to prevent such an tragedy occurring again . I don't believe that many people newspapers would spread false information . They can only rely on information fed to them at the time and the time scale to investigate it's accuracy would be very limited . Again I fail to believe that anyone deliberately caused this tragedy and as such to call for manslaughter prosecution is ridiculous . Our sympathies should be with the families of those who lost their lives , though a few did appear to be unable to come to terms with what happened. As steps had been put in place a long time ago to prevent the possibility of such a tragedy recurring , the recent enquiry could be considered to be a waste of public funds . " What? are referring to the Coroners inquest ? | |||
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"This tragedy could have happened to any fans, it just happened to be Liverpool fans, so if we take Liverpool out of it and find an ounce of compassion, we may just take a fuckin step back a minute and remember that lives were lost here. Families changed forever. Football changed forever. Any city, anywhere could be going through this right now... these were people!! To go over a few points.... Yes there are some Everton fans who will buy the sun...in fact there may even be the odd Liverpool fan who still buys the sun..who knows?? But I'm telling you now, my family and friends are both Liverpool and Everton supporters and they stand together. Tonight in Liverpool city centre, all fans have come together to celebrate this decision...standing together. There will always be the odd arsehole Evertonian who has something clever to say...it's usually my Husband but on this subject, there is respect. Utmost respect!! Now the questions posed by Gary earlier. Yes there would have been d*unken fans...it was a football match. Yes there would have been people turn up without tickets...it was a football match. Yes there would have been pushing ad shoving...it was a football match. It happens at EVERY match. The fact remains is that these questions and thousands of others have been considered for 2 years. This case has been torn wide open and put back together again...we all know the verdict, there's no need to say it again. So yes, the d*unks, the queue jumpers, the ticketless were there, but a judge and jury does not lay blame in their lap. So, those who are quoting Liverpool did this and Liverpool fans did that at previous matches and tragedies... just remember that this could have been any match on any day with any fans. It could be your team and your family and friends who are still mourning. Have some fuckin sense and compassion and think about how HORRIFIC these deaths must have been. How frightened they must have been. How helpless others were in watching people die. God I would love you to ask those questions in my home town tonight pal! Love from a lifelong LFC supporter, Liverpool born and bred and will remember that day for the rest of my life. xx " ![]() ![]() | |||
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"It could have happened to any club and any set of fans. If people just read up about it and looked at it from an impartial view instead of a " we hate scousers/ Liverpool / that football team" view they would have been horrified at the cover up and lies that were told about innocent people who lost their lives. I am just glad that the families didn't give up " ![]() | |||
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"The Sun is still boycotted 26 years after the tragedy. It's unlikely this will change. Many newsagents refuse to even stock it. Will anyone be either continuing to boycott it or begin to in the light of the decision in court today? . As the event happened twenty six years ago, it is if little relevance to day . It is importance to remember that 96 peop!e lost their lives . The key thing is that measures were put in place to prevent such an tragedy occurring again . I don't believe that many people newspapers would spread false information . They can only rely on information fed to them at the time and the time scale to investigate it's accuracy would be very limited . Again I fail to believe that anyone deliberately caused this tragedy and as such to call for manslaughter prosecution is ridiculous . Our sympathies should be with the families of those who lost their lives , though a few did appear to be unable to come to terms with what happened. As steps had been put in place a long time ago to prevent the possibility of such a tragedy recurring , the recent enquiry could be considered to be a waste of public funds . " In your opinion. Tell that to the families. | |||
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"If it wasn't for the fucking hooligans who caused the need for fences to be erected in the first place. They'd still be here. Rip peeps "Fucking hooligans" didnt cause the disaster. Fencing didnt cause the disaster. A jury took 2 years to work out exactly what and who caused the disaster. If it wasn't for the policing policies that day among other events, 96 people would still be with us. " I'm not doubting that. But the introduction of those fences in the first place stopped them bring able to escape. But yes they deserve their justice | |||
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"Folks just look on sky news online when you have a mo or follow #hillsborough and watch the scenes in Liverpool at the moment at the Hillsborough vigil. Bawling my eyes out here and plenty of red AND blue scarves in the crowds. #proudtobeascouser " ![]() | |||
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"Folks just look on sky news online when you have a mo or follow #hillsborough and watch the scenes in Liverpool at the moment at the Hillsborough vigil. Bawling my eyes out here and plenty of red AND blue scarves in the crowds. #proudtobeascouser " On SKY NEWS ![]() | |||
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"Again I fail to believe that anyone deliberately caused this tragedy and as such to call for manslaughter prosecution is ridiculous . " No one is saying it was deliberate, that;s why the potential charge is manslaughter by gross negligence. People should still be accountable | |||
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"only if the sun spend the same about of pages on the apology as they did smearing the good people who did nothing wrong..... starting on page 1 with the headline on page 1 "sorry, we got this one wrong ... big time" They already did that some time ago .. And Kelvin Mackenzie then later retracted his apology citing murdoch forcing him to do it. . Private eye reported years after the deaths that kelvin mackenzie was at a private corporate event and a businessman asked him did he mean shat he said about the fans in his newspaper . He replied that he " meant every word . " The snake yesterday backpeddled and tried to lie through his teeth to a reporter about it . 4 of my mates went that match , 3 came back . We only found out our 4th friend was alive in a hospital 4 days later . He was crushed under dead bodies . He has never psychologically recovered . So yes , us scousers will never forgive that aussie maggot . " I read about that too. Even IF the Sun reporters were told lies, I didn't see similar lies so blatantly repeated elsewhere. | |||
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"Last thing I thought I'd be doing is posting about Hillsborough on this site but......... A very emotional day for every one connected, especially for the families who lost loved ones on that horrific day back in 89'. This is a tragedy that could of happened to any club under those circumstances . Finally after 27 years of lies & smear, deceit and cover ups the full truth of what happened that day and the subsequent years to follow has come out. This is a day for the families and friends of the 96 , for Liverpool supporters and the city, but it is also a day for all football fans, wether you support Leicester or Lincoln, Man Utd to Macclesfield, we are all the same. Fathers, sons, mothers, daughters, grandparents to grandkids. This could have happened to any of us!! This has taken 2 years of detailed investigation, nothing has been left out. Well done to all involved in bringing this about, and especially the families and supporters who never gave up. As a proud Liverpool supporter for over 40 years. YNWA. To all football supporters." ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"Spousers are often ridiculed and the brunt of many jokes; we take it on the chin and to be fair some of the stereotypical comments have been quite accurate over the years. We just laugh it off. I haven't always been proud of my place of birth but yesterday I was. Liverpool stood together as one, breath held, waiting for that verdict and it was like a heavy, dark cloud was lifted from over the city. I'd say all of us knew someone at the match that day or have a story to tell of where we where when the news broke 27 years ago. We will never forget and I'm afraid, in the case of 'that newspaper', we will never forgive either. To our friends and family members who went out to enjoy a great day of football and never came home... YWNA xxx" xxxx | |||
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"And let's not forget that Tory maggot Boris Johnson's part in kicking the families in their darkest hour , labeling Liverpool " Self pity City " , for wanting justice for the dead fans . It's just a joke to this man , even when he was forced to retract it he had a little smile on his face ." ![]() | |||
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"I have never been as proud of my city as i am right now. Justice for the 96 Y.N.W.A. X" ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"And let's not forget that Tory maggot Boris Johnson's part in kicking the families in their darkest hour , labeling Liverpool " Self pity City " , for wanting justice for the dead fans . It's just a joke to this man , even when he was forced to retract it he had a little smile on his face . ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"The event was tragic and unfortunate , but no one see out to kill anyone .. The important thing is that lessons were learned and procedures put in place to prevent such an event recurring . If I had died in such circumstances ,as long as procedures were improved ,I would not want any member of my family wasting 27 years of their life fighting the authorities. Fighting for justice usually means rectifying circumstances such as being imprisoned for a crime which you did not committ , not investigating accidental deaths . It is interesting to note that the relatives of victims have have started a class action against the police and as such are hoping to gain financially out of these events . We should also remember that all these investigations are funded by the tax payer . It would be interesting to see how many people would be keen on investigations if they had to fund them themselves . Whilst the events were tragic , no one set out to kill anyone deliberately and what happened afterwards is probably irrelevant . " Words actually fail me. ![]() | |||
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"The event was tragic and unfortunate , but no one see out to kill anyone .. The important thing is that lessons were learned and procedures put in place to prevent such an event recurring . If I had died in such circumstances ,as long as procedures were improved ,I would not want any member of my family wasting 27 years of their life fighting the authorities. Fighting for justice usually means rectifying circumstances such as being imprisoned for a crime which you did not committ , not investigating accidental deaths . It is interesting to note that the relatives of victims have have started a class action against the police and as such are hoping to gain financially out of these events . We should also remember that all these investigations are funded by the tax payer . It would be interesting to see how many people would be keen on investigations if they had to fund them themselves . Whilst the events were tragic , no one set out to kill anyone deliberately and what happened afterwards is probably irrelevant . Words actually fail me. ![]() . And me ![]() | |||
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"The event was tragic and unfortunate , but no one see out to kill anyone .. The important thing is that lessons were learned and procedures put in place to prevent such an event recurring . If I had died in such circumstances ,as long as procedures were improved ,I would not want any member of my family wasting 27 years of their life fighting the authorities. Fighting for justice usually means rectifying circumstances such as being imprisoned for a crime which you did not committ , not investigating accidental deaths . It is interesting to note that the relatives of victims have have started a class action against the police and as such are hoping to gain financially out of these events . We should also remember that all these investigations are funded by the tax payer . It would be interesting to see how many people would be keen on investigations if they had to fund them themselves . Whilst the events were tragic , no one set out to kill anyone deliberately and what happened afterwards is probably irrelevant . " As a tax payer I support these families in their fight for the TRUTH! Which thankfully was delivered. It's alright you stating what you 've said when no family members of yours have died in this horrific way! I suspect if they did you t feel a lot differently. I can totally can empathise with them having lost a relative to medical negligence and fighting the powers that be to find out what happened. So yeah talks easy try damn well living with it!! | |||
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"The event was tragic and unfortunate , but no one see out to kill anyone .. The important thing is that lessons were learned and procedures put in place to prevent such an event recurring . If I had died in such circumstances ,as long as procedures were improved ,I would not want any member of my family wasting 27 years of their life fighting the authorities. Fighting for justice usually means rectifying circumstances such as being imprisoned for a crime which you did not committ , not investigating accidental deaths . It is interesting to note that the relatives of victims have have started a class action against the police and as such are hoping to gain financially out of these events . We should also remember that all these investigations are funded by the tax payer . It would be interesting to see how many people would be keen on investigations if they had to fund them themselves . Whilst the events were tragic , no one set out to kill anyone deliberately and what happened afterwards is probably irrelevant . As a tax payer I support these families in their fight for the TRUTH! Which thankfully was delivered. It's alright you stating what you 've said when no family members of yours have died in this horrific way! I suspect if they did you t feel a lot differently. I can totally can empathise with them having lost a relative to medical negligence and fighting the powers that be to find out what happened. So yeah talks easy try damn well living with it!! " ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"The event was tragic and unfortunate , but no one see out to kill anyone .. The important thing is that lessons were learned and procedures put in place to prevent such an event recurring . If I had died in such circumstances ,as long as procedures were improved ,I would not want any member of my family wasting 27 years of their life fighting the authorities. Fighting for justice usually means rectifying circumstances such as being imprisoned for a crime which you did not committ , not investigating accidental deaths . It is interesting to note that the relatives of victims have have started a class action against the police and as such are hoping to gain financially out of these events . We should also remember that all these investigations are funded by the tax payer . It would be interesting to see how many people would be keen on investigations if they had to fund them themselves . Whilst the events were tragic , no one set out to kill anyone deliberately and what happened afterwards is probably irrelevant . " Sometimes I read your posts, shake my head and wonder..... | |||
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"This tragedy could have happened to any fans, it just happened to be Liverpool fans, so if we take Liverpool out of it and find an ounce of compassion, we may just take a fuckin step back a minute and remember that lives were lost here. Families changed forever. Football changed forever. Any city, anywhere could be going through this right now... these were people!! To go over a few points.... Yes there are some Everton fans who will buy the sun...in fact there may even be the odd Liverpool fan who still buys the sun..who knows?? But I'm telling you now, my family and friends are both Liverpool and Everton supporters and they stand together. Tonight in Liverpool city centre, all fans have come together to celebrate this decision...standing together. There will always be the odd arsehole Evertonian who has something clever to say...it's usually my Husband but on this subject, there is respect. Utmost respect!! Now the questions posed by Gary earlier. Yes there would have been d*unken fans...it was a football match. Yes there would have been people turn up without tickets...it was a football match. Yes there would have been pushing ad shoving...it was a football match. It happens at EVERY match. The fact remains is that these questions and thousands of others have been considered for 2 years. This case has been torn wide open and put back together again...we all know the verdict, there's no need to say it again. So yes, the d*unks, the queue jumpers, the ticketless were there, but a judge and jury does not lay blame in their lap. So, those who are quoting Liverpool did this and Liverpool fans did that at previous matches and tragedies... just remember that this could have been any match on any day with any fans. It could be your team and your family and friends who are still mourning. Have some fuckin sense and compassion and think about how HORRIFIC these deaths must have been. How frightened they must have been. How helpless others were in watching people die. God I would love you to ask those questions in my home town tonight pal! Love from a lifelong LFC supporter, Liverpool born and bred and will remember that day for the rest of my life. xx " ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"The event was tragic and unfortunate , but no one see out to kill anyone .. The important thing is that lessons were learned and procedures put in place to prevent such an event recurring . If I had died in such circumstances ,as long as procedures were improved ,I would not want any member of my family wasting 27 years of their life fighting the authorities. Fighting for justice usually means rectifying circumstances such as being imprisoned for a crime which you did not committ , not investigating accidental deaths . It is interesting to note that the relatives of victims have have started a class action against the police and as such are hoping to gain financially out of these events . We should also remember that all these investigations are funded by the tax payer . It would be interesting to see how many people would be keen on investigations if they had to fund them themselves . Whilst the events were tragic , no one set out to kill anyone deliberately and what happened afterwards is probably irrelevant . As a tax payer I support these families in their fight for the TRUTH! Which thankfully was delivered. It's alright you stating what you 've said when no family members of yours have died in this horrific way! I suspect if they did you t feel a lot differently. I can totally can empathise with them having lost a relative to medical negligence and fighting the powers that be to find out what happened. So yeah talks easy try damn well living with it!! " I wrote the post as someone who has sued a public organisation . I would like to think that I take a rational view when events such as this happen. Most people have experienced a traumatic event in life . Is anyone trying to claim that the deaths were deliberate ?. | |||
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"The event was tragic and unfortunate , but no one see out to kill anyone .. The important thing is that lessons were learned and procedures put in place to prevent such an event recurring . If I had died in such circumstances ,as long as procedures were improved ,I would not want any member of my family wasting 27 years of their life fighting the authorities. Fighting for justice usually means rectifying circumstances such as being imprisoned for a crime which you did not committ , not investigating accidental deaths . It is interesting to note that the relatives of victims have have started a class action against the police and as such are hoping to gain financially out of these events . We should also remember that all these investigations are funded by the tax payer . It would be interesting to see how many people would be keen on investigations if they had to fund them themselves . Whilst the events were tragic , no one set out to kill anyone deliberately and what happened afterwards is probably irrelevant . As a tax payer I support these families in their fight for the TRUTH! Which thankfully was delivered. It's alright you stating what you 've said when no family members of yours have died in this horrific way! I suspect if they did you t feel a lot differently. I can totally can empathise with them having lost a relative to medical negligence and fighting the powers that be to find out what happened. So yeah talks easy try damn well living with it!! I wrote the post as someone who has sued a public organisation . I would like to think that I take a rational view when events such as this happen. Most people have experienced a traumatic event in life . Is anyone trying to claim that the deaths were deliberate ?. " Not deliberate, but very much preventable. I wish people would read up on the subject before commenting, there seems to be a lot of illenformed comments. ![]() | |||
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"The event was tragic and unfortunate , but no one see out to kill anyone .. The important thing is that lessons were learned and procedures put in place to prevent such an event recurring . If I had died in such circumstances ,as long as procedures were improved ,I would not want any member of my family wasting 27 years of their life fighting the authorities. Fighting for justice usually means rectifying circumstances such as being imprisoned for a crime which you did not committ , not investigating accidental deaths . It is interesting to note that the relatives of victims have have started a class action against the police and as such are hoping to gain financially out of these events . We should also remember that all these investigations are funded by the tax payer . It would be interesting to see how many people would be keen on investigations if they had to fund them themselves . Whilst the events were tragic , no one set out to kill anyone deliberately and what happened afterwards is probably irrelevant . Words actually fail me. ![]() Agree but given some of his previous posts absolutely no surprise by his contribution.. A lacking of humanity and empathy from one who espouses their 'Christian' outlook | |||
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"The event was tragic and unfortunate , but no one see out to kill anyone .. The important thing is that lessons were learned and procedures put in place to prevent such an event recurring . If I had died in such circumstances ,as long as procedures were improved ,I would not want any member of my family wasting 27 years of their life fighting the authorities. Fighting for justice usually means rectifying circumstances such as being imprisoned for a crime which you did not committ , not investigating accidental deaths . It is interesting to note that the relatives of victims have have started a class action against the police and as such are hoping to gain financially out of these events . We should also remember that all these investigations are funded by the tax payer . It would be interesting to see how many people would be keen on investigations if they had to fund them themselves . Whilst the events were tragic , no one set out to kill anyone deliberately and what happened afterwards is probably irrelevant . As a tax payer I support these families in their fight for the TRUTH! Which thankfully was delivered. It's alright you stating what you 've said when no family members of yours have died in this horrific way! I suspect if they did you t feel a lot differently. I can totally can empathise with them having lost a relative to medical negligence and fighting the powers that be to find out what happened. So yeah talks easy try damn well living with it!! I wrote the post as someone who has sued a public organisation . I would like to think that I take a rational view when events such as this happen. Most people have experienced a traumatic event in life . Is anyone trying to claim that the deaths were deliberate ?. Not deliberate, but very much preventable. I wish people would read up on the subject before commenting, there seems to be a lot of illenformed comments. ![]() . I thought that steps were taken a very long time ago to ensure that such an event would not happen again . If this is the case , it is difficult to see what a pubic enquiry /inquest has actually achieved . It would be a different scenario if the events of the day were ignored . | |||
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"The event was tragic and unfortunate , but no one see out to kill anyone .. The important thing is that lessons were learned and procedures put in place to prevent such an event recurring . If I had died in such circumstances ,as long as procedures were improved ,I would not want any member of my family wasting 27 years of their life fighting the authorities. Fighting for justice usually means rectifying circumstances such as being imprisoned for a crime which you did not committ , not investigating accidental deaths . It is interesting to note that the relatives of victims have have started a class action against the police and as such are hoping to gain financially out of these events . We should also remember that all these investigations are funded by the tax payer . It would be interesting to see how many people would be keen on investigations if they had to fund them themselves . Whilst the events were tragic , no one set out to kill anyone deliberately and what happened afterwards is probably irrelevant . As a tax payer I support these families in their fight for the TRUTH! Which thankfully was delivered. It's alright you stating what you 've said when no family members of yours have died in this horrific way! I suspect if they did you t feel a lot differently. I can totally can empathise with them having lost a relative to medical negligence and fighting the powers that be to find out what happened. So yeah talks easy try damn well living with it!! I wrote the post as someone who has sued a public organisation . I would like to think that I take a rational view when events such as this happen. Most people have experienced a traumatic event in life . Is anyone trying to claim that the deaths were deliberate ?. Not deliberate, but very much preventable. I wish people would read up on the subject before commenting, there seems to be a lot of illenformed comments. ![]() What was achieved was the exposure of a catalogue of failures lies and corruption. | |||
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"The event was tragic and unfortunate , but no one see out to kill anyone .. The important thing is that lessons were learned and procedures put in place to prevent such an event recurring . If I had died in such circumstances ,as long as procedures were improved ,I would not want any member of my family wasting 27 years of their life fighting the authorities. Fighting for justice usually means rectifying circumstances such as being imprisoned for a crime which you did not committ , not investigating accidental deaths . It is interesting to note that the relatives of victims have have started a class action against the police and as such are hoping to gain financially out of these events . We should also remember that all these investigations are funded by the tax payer . It would be interesting to see how many people would be keen on investigations if they had to fund them themselves . Whilst the events were tragic , no one set out to kill anyone deliberately and what happened afterwards is probably irrelevant . As a tax payer I support these families in their fight for the TRUTH! Which thankfully was delivered. It's alright you stating what you 've said when no family members of yours have died in this horrific way! I suspect if they did you t feel a lot differently. I can totally can empathise with them having lost a relative to medical negligence and fighting the powers that be to find out what happened. So yeah talks easy try damn well living with it!! I wrote the post as someone who has sued a public organisation . I would like to think that I take a rational view when events such as this happen. Most people have experienced a traumatic event in life . Is anyone trying to claim that the deaths were deliberate ?. Not deliberate, but very much preventable. I wish people would read up on the subject before commenting, there seems to be a lot of illenformed comments. ![]() Previous issues had been ignored why don't you look at the facts instead of making ignorant assumptions? | |||
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"The event was tragic and unfortunate , but no one see out to kill anyone .. The important thing is that lessons were learned and procedures put in place to prevent such an event recurring . If I had died in such circumstances ,as long as procedures were improved ,I would not want any member of my family wasting 27 years of their life fighting the authorities. Fighting for justice usually means rectifying circumstances such as being imprisoned for a crime which you did not committ , not investigating accidental deaths . It is interesting to note that the relatives of victims have have started a class action against the police and as such are hoping to gain financially out of these events . We should also remember that all these investigations are funded by the tax payer . It would be interesting to see how many people would be keen on investigations if they had to fund them themselves . Whilst the events were tragic , no one set out to kill anyone deliberately and what happened afterwards is probably irrelevant . As a tax payer I support these families in their fight for the TRUTH! Which thankfully was delivered. It's alright you stating what you 've said when no family members of yours have died in this horrific way! I suspect if they did you t feel a lot differently. I can totally can empathise with them having lost a relative to medical negligence and fighting the powers that be to find out what happened. So yeah talks easy try damn well living with it!! I wrote the post as someone who has sued a public organisation . I would like to think that I take a rational view when events such as this happen. Most people have experienced a traumatic event in life . Is anyone trying to claim that the deaths were deliberate ?. Not deliberate, but very much preventable. I wish people would read up on the subject before commenting, there seems to be a lot of illenformed comments. ![]() You really don't get this do you? The reason there have been inquiries is that police LIED from the very beginning and, in the process, traduced the death and her families. How would you feel if a family member died and smear stories were put around that they were somehow culpable in those events. I'll admit - the sheer scale and distgusting actions of South Yorkshire police didn't completely register until the recent events. They must face sanctions. If I had died - I'd like to think my family members would accept an apology from people in high places if they said "look, we messed up, I'm truly sorry". If I died and the people whose decisions led to my death tried to wriggle out of it, disseminate and blame others, I'd expect them to fight for a 100 years to get the truth out. I am not an LFC fan and I am normally a supporter of the police. | |||
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