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Chernobyl disaster was this a godsend in disguise
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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Ukraine marks 30th anniversary of the Chernobyl disaster Reactor 4.
The meltdown at the Soviet plant was the worst nuclear disaster in history.
An uncontrolled reaction blew the roof off, spewing out a cloud of radioactive material which drifted into other parts of the USSR, including Russia and Belarus, and northern Europe.
BUT!!!!!!
The same thing that drove humans out; drove nature in;
Exclusion zone around plant has become wildlife haven 'on par with nature reserves'
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.A detailed survey of the huge forested area around the stricken plant has revealed that it is teeming with large animals such elk, roe deer, red deer, wild boar and wolves despite being contaminated with radioactive fallout
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This is a gift from the gods for the Wolves of Chernobyl, long may humans stay out.
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By (user no longer on site)
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Small animals fair better than larger ones, the higher up the food chain the worse your dose tends to be as the isotopes collect per species, so if your eating an animal that's eaten an animal which ate grubs which ate plant matter your getting a 4 dose accumulation, hence why humans usually come off worse.
That said there's plenty of genetic abnormalities already occurring amongst the animal inhabitants!.
Belarus and the Ukraine still have radioactive hotspots, Germany spent hundreds of millions on decontamination and Wales is still throwing sheep away!.
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Ahh well only another 250 years and half of its gone  |
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There are mutations at the site and some parts there have incredibly high levels of radiation, hazardous to life.
It affected life in the uk, so I'd never consider it good for us either nor any part of the planet. We'll never know how many have and will die from that disaster, just focusing on human life. Other forms of life got even less protection than us. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"I'd rather the USSR have just closed off an area for nature and not gone to the trouble of chucking loads of radiation into the atmosphere  "
That is true, I think we all wish that, but at least something good has come out of this, it proves nature finds a way even in the most difficult circumstances.
I remember getting suited up including B.A. to change air intake filters on North Sea Generators as we recorded very high fall out counts. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I'd rather the USSR have just closed off an area for nature and not gone to the trouble of chucking loads of radiation into the atmosphere "
so you're not grateful for the destruction it caused? Selfish. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Bit hard to stomach this, it was a day of celebration in the USSR at the time (hence the travelling fair you will see in some photos), young girls and boys excited about the new school term......
.....blessing in disguise? The generations affected by cancers? The impact of foraged food sources in Poland and Belarus..... I guess if you think about wolves and wild boar, then yes it's all cool, but the human suffering? This was no blessing |
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By *olgateMan
over a year ago
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"I'd rather the USSR have just closed off an area for nature and not gone to the trouble of chucking loads of radiation into the atmosphere
so you're not grateful for the destruction it caused? Selfish. "
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You should Google Kid of Speed Elena Filatova - Angelfire - a woman on a motorbike with a camera and Geiger counter.
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"I have ridden all my life and over the years I have owned several different motorbikes. I ended my search for a perfect bike with a big ninja, that boasts a mature 147 horse power, some serious bark, is fast as a bullet and comfortable for a long trips.
I travel a lot and one of my favorite destinations leads North from Kiev, towards so called Chernobyl "dead zone", which is 130kms from my home. Why my favorite? Because one can take long rides there on empty roads." |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Bit hard to stomach this, it was a day of celebration in the USSR at the time (hence the travelling fair you will see in some photos), young girls and boys excited about the new school term......
.....blessing in disguise? The generations affected by cancers? The impact of foraged food sources in Poland and Belarus..... I guess if you think about wolves and wild boar, then yes it's all cool, but the human suffering? This was no blessing"
So I take it you just want this to be a baron waste land for ever, I watched an amazing documentary on this a few days back and the recovery of wild life is simply amazing, even the white tailed Eagles are increasing in number, and believe it or not they are not being effected by the radioactive fish they are eating
shit happens, but for something good to flourish from it is good whether you could stomach it or not |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Ukraine marks 30th anniversary of the Chernobyl disaster Reactor 4.
The meltdown at the Soviet plant was the worst nuclear disaster in history.
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I'd say what the Americans done to Japan was the worst nuclear disasters this world has ever witnessed. That was killing for the sake of killing Chernobyl may be the worst nuclear accident ever though. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I'd rather the USSR have just closed off an area for nature and not gone to the trouble of chucking loads of radiation into the atmosphere
That is true, I think we all wish that, but at least something good has come out of this, it proves nature finds a way even in the most difficult circumstances.
I remember getting suited up including B.A. to change air intake filters on North Sea Generators as we recorded very high fall out counts."
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Nature finding a way actually occurred inside reactor 4!!.
They found an algae growing inside the most contaminated bit!.
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Bit hard to stomach this, it was a day of celebration in the USSR at the time (hence the travelling fair you will see in some photos), young girls and boys excited about the new school term......
.....blessing in disguise? The generations affected by cancers? The impact of foraged food sources in Poland and Belarus..... I guess if you think about wolves and wild boar, then yes it's all cool, but the human suffering? This was no blessing
So I take it you just want this to be a baron waste land for ever, I watched an amazing documentary on this a few days back and the recovery of wild life is simply amazing, even the white tailed Eagles are increasing in number, and believe it or not they are not being effected by the radioactive fish they are eating
shit happens, but for something good to flourish from it is good whether you could stomach it or not"
At no point did I say I wished it to stay a "barren wasteland"...What I didn't think is that it was a "godsend in disguise" - the title of your thread....
Notice how I didn't put words into YOUR mouth.... |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Bit hard to stomach this, it was a day of celebration in the USSR at the time (hence the travelling fair you will see in some photos), young girls and boys excited about the new school term......
.....blessing in disguise? The generations affected by cancers? The impact of foraged food sources in Poland and Belarus..... I guess if you think about wolves and wild boar, then yes it's all cool, but the human suffering? This was no blessing
So I take it you just want this to be a baron waste land for ever, I watched an amazing documentary on this a few days back and the recovery of wild life is simply amazing, even the white tailed Eagles are increasing in number, and believe it or not they are not being effected by the radioactive fish they are eating
shit happens, but for something good to flourish from it is good whether you could stomach it or not"
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I think your getting a bit confused or at least confusing people on the thread, the recovery of wildlife has just come from the humans moving out!.
It's got nothing to do with wildlife recovering from Chernobyl, a nuclear plant disaster and a nuclear bomb going off are two completely different things.
You get a great deal of destruction from a bomb and very little from a nuclear plant going tits up.
Where as you get a great deal more contamination from a plant going tits up than you do from a bomb |
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so the animals have done well in their radioactive hell-hole.. no mention of mutants deformities and cancer then ..but then there wouldnt be would there ..the mainstream media dont like to mention whats really going on .
too busy with more important stuff.
dont believe the bullshit ,we'll be paying dearly for a long time to come.
radiation doesnt go away in 30 years |
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By (user no longer on site)
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i remember it happening as a kid and the secrecy of the ussr. spreading poison over the earth is not good in any form. it polluted vast areas of the planet which lasts generations and that is only what we know so far. to save animals i'd rather humans prove their superior intellect and protect them rather than fuck up the planet and see what grows back. |
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we 'hosted' at work some of the kids affected by Chernobyl several years after the catastrophe, just being away from that region was beneficial to their health but they will have long term medical conditions that for some will blight their lives..
countless other's died when they were sent in to pick up radioactive material with shovels and little or no PPE..
i don't think 'godsend' is applicable in relation to what happened and is still happening.. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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I wonder if that's why, last night, i dreamt a sink hole opened up in Sydney, due to radioactive waste catching fire and burning it's way up to a street where 3 unlucky souls fell in! I remember thinking "i hope the falling rubble kills them before the radioactivity does". The sink hole opened up right in front of a hotel. All those who went on to the balconies to look down into the hole died horribly of course.
- skips gayly away- |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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" so the animals have done well in their radioactive hell-hole.. no mention of mutants deformities and cancer then ..but then there wouldnt be would there ..the mainstream media dont like to mention whats really going on .
too busy with more important stuff.
dont believe the bullshit ,we'll be paying dearly for a long time to come.
radiation doesnt go away in 30 years "
I work with radiation every day when offshore, part of my job, so I do have a good understanding of the hazards involved
and your comment - " no mention of mutants deformities and cancer" actually that is correct there is no mention and that is what was astounding in the documentary that so many of the wild life inhabitants were uncontaminated even the ones feeding on contaminated fish
I thought it was good viewing, perhaps I should stick to coronation street and see how bet lynch and Anny walker are doing  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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" so the animals have done well in their radioactive hell-hole.. no mention of mutants deformities and cancer then ..but then there wouldnt be would there ..the mainstream media dont like to mention whats really going on .
too busy with more important stuff.
dont believe the bullshit ,we'll be paying dearly for a long time to come.
radiation doesnt go away in 30 years
I work with radiation every day when offshore, part of my job, so I do have a good understanding of the hazards involved
and your comment - " no mention of mutants deformities and cancer" actually that is correct there is no mention and that is what was astounding in the documentary that so many of the wild life inhabitants were uncontaminated even the ones feeding on contaminated fish
I thought it was good viewing, perhaps I should stick to coronation street and see how bet lynch and Anny walker are doing "
So the half life of the U235 (2% solution for the reactor at Chernobyl, a graphite moderated pressure tube reactor) is....... 703.8 million years.... pretty impossible to say after 30 years whether there are any long-term effects, don't you think? I am sure it was an interesting documentary, we will just stick with our coronation street
You asked in your thread title "... a godsend in disguise...?" Yet disregard all opinions to the contrary of what you believe.....
4.1% of the Ukraine is built upon., 17.5% is forest and about 60% is used for agriculture of some kind. Has this been a godsend for the animals, not really, with 17.5% forest, the animals described in the documentary have land enough, and in-fact may be harming their continued survival by frequenting the area of chernobyl, and introducing potential genetic mutations into their species........
Now if you don't mind, Eastenders is on
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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You asked in your thread title "... a godsend in disguise...?" Yet disregard all opinions to the contrary of what you believe.....
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Yes I did ask "was this a godsend in disguise"
and everyone is open to their view, many even misread it and could not even see the "was this"
I am personally happy that life goes on and nature has a way of re-building and replenishing,
enjoy your eastenders, nice to hear it is still broadcast, how many years you been sitting in front of tv watching this now  |
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