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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago
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I thought being British was all about harking back to when Britannia ruled the waves, and the monarchy were well in fashion then.
Personally I quite like being a constitutional monarchy. Better than some of the alternatives. |
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"Is having a monarchy an out dated idea in the 21st century?..should we have a referendum to see if they should stay ? .."
The Royal family do a great job and bring lots of tourism to the UK. Why would we want to damage the tourist industry by changing it .
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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My views on this have changed a lot.
I see no place for a monarchy in the 21st century. I'm happy for a few of them to keep their big house in London for the time being (but they may need to share it with a future president), but the rest of them are not needed.
Yes I would like a referendum. |
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By *horehouse OP Couple
over a year ago
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"Is having a monarchy an out dated idea in the 21st century?..should we have a referendum to see if they should stay ? .. The Royal family do a great job and bring lots of tourism to the UK. Why would we want to damage the tourist industry by changing it ."
a tourist attraction? But yes I think your right that's about the only use for them these days
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I love the royals, I love how we all come together when their is a wedding or a baby. I know lots this they are a huge drain on us (ads included) but think of the tourist that visit
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"Is having a monarchy an out dated idea in the 21st century?..should we have a referendum to see if they should stay ? .. The Royal family do a great job and bring lots of tourism to the UK. Why would we want to damage the tourist industry by changing it ."
Do you honestly think if there wasn't a monarchy people would stop coming?!!  It's not as if Her Majesty does a meet and greet!
France doesn't have a monarch, think their tourist industry is just fine! |
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"The royal family are the most successful benefit claimants ever."
It saddens me somewhat that we berate the most vulnerable in society, quick to label those living in social housing on benefits as scroungers yet incongruously pay millions to the richest woman in the land and her family and feel blooming happy about it. |
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"The royal family are the most successful benefit claimants ever.
It saddens me somewhat that we berate the most vulnerable in society, quick to label those living in social housing on benefits as scroungers yet incongruously pay millions to the richest woman in the land and her family and feel blooming happy about it."
Coz it's only 36ppp.
But yes i would rather feed the starving or something else with that money. God bless her. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"My views on this have changed a lot.
I see no place for a monarchy in the 21st century. I'm happy for a few of them to keep their big house in London for the time being (but they may need to share it with a future president), but the rest of them are not needed.
Yes I would like a referendum."
Wait why would they have to share thier private property with anyone?
Once they were no longer the royal family they'd still own the estate |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Is having a monarchy an out dated idea in the 21st century?..should we have a referendum to see if they should stay ? .. The Royal family do a great job and bring lots of tourism to the UK. Why would we want to damage the tourist industry by changing it ."
Because wealth envy is a rampant at the moment.
I'd love to see all these frothing revolutionists keep up with her schedule and represent our country with such dignity. I bet 99% of this forum wouldn't even know how to eat a banana using utensils. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"My views on this have changed a lot.
I see no place for a monarchy in the 21st century. I'm happy for a few of them to keep their big house in London for the time being (but they may need to share it with a future president), but the rest of them are not needed.
Yes I would like a referendum.
Wait why would they have to share thier private property with anyone?
Once they were no longer the royal family they'd still own the estate"
Why would they? |
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We get a great deal from having the Royals.
In purely financial terms they cost less than it would cost to support a president, presidential accommodation, presidential salaries, presidential aids salaries, protection of presidents and their families, presidential elections, protection of past presidents, pensions for past presidents and their aids.
Of course as well as that having a head of state who is not a politician means that the Royals are welcomed in places where no politician would be tolerated, and can bridge gaps in understanding that no politician who needs electoral support would dare to venture for fear of damaging their parties potential re-election.
And Who would want President Blair or Camoron? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"My views on this have changed a lot.
I see no place for a monarchy in the 21st century. I'm happy for a few of them to keep their big house in London for the time being (but they may need to share it with a future president), but the rest of them are not needed.
Yes I would like a referendum.
Wait why would they have to share thier private property with anyone?
Once they were no longer the royal family they'd still own the estate
Why would they?"
Because much of it is private property not government or the countries. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"My views on this have changed a lot.
I see no place for a monarchy in the 21st century. I'm happy for a few of them to keep their big house in London for the time being (but they may need to share it with a future president), but the rest of them are not needed.
Yes I would like a referendum.
Wait why would they have to share thier private property with anyone?
Once they were no longer the royal family they'd still own the estate
Why would they?
Because much of it is private property not government or the countries."
A great deal more of it is 'owned' by Crown Estates and has been passed down ever since William the Bastard took it. |
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"The royal family are the most successful benefit claimants ever.
It saddens me somewhat that we berate the most vulnerable in society, quick to label those living in social housing on benefits as scroungers yet incongruously pay millions to the richest woman in the land and her family and feel blooming happy about it."
. And why should we not feel happy about it?. Most people enjoy the various Royal occasions and we get excellent value for money from the Royal family . They work extremely hard to demanding schedules and have sacrificed their private lives .
It is difficult to see how any comparison could be made to benefit claimants . |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Let’s start with the simple numbers; the Royal wedding cost approximately £20m and it is calculated to have generated £1bn for the economy. Now I’m no financial guru, but according to my calculations, that’s a hefty profit. God knows what the Jubilee did. OK, so we’ve established the wedding may have helped our struggling economy, but how else do we benefit from royalty?
Aside from the millions of pounds earned from tourists visiting their endless estates and fancy buildings, the Royal Family are highly respected worldwide, they continue to generate healthy relations which more importantly affects Britain. There aren’t many guests that arrive at the White House to which the President (at the time) is wearing a white-tie dinner suit – in fact the Queen’s the first for this. Pretty good PR for Team GB, don’t you think?
Then there’s all the charity work they’re involved in, and to be honest this is where they excel, take the example of the Prince’s Trust. Important not to under-estimate this ambassadorial role for stuff that matters. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Let’s start with the simple numbers; the Royal wedding cost approximately £20m and it is calculated to have generated £1bn for the economy. Now I’m no financial guru, but according to my calculations, that’s a hefty profit. God knows what the Jubilee did. OK, so we’ve established the wedding may have helped our struggling economy, but how else do we benefit from royalty?
Aside from the millions of pounds earned from tourists visiting their endless estates and fancy buildings, the Royal Family are highly respected worldwide, they continue to generate healthy relations which more importantly affects Britain. There aren’t many guests that arrive at the White House to which the President (at the time) is wearing a white-tie dinner suit – in fact the Queen’s the first for this. Pretty good PR for Team GB, don’t you think?
Then there’s all the charity work they’re involved in, and to be honest this is where they excel, take the example of the Prince’s Trust. Important not to under-estimate this ambassadorial role for stuff that matters."
I'm so glad you wrote this and all I have to do is agree   |
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"Let’s start with the simple numbers; the Royal wedding cost approximately £20m and it is calculated to have generated £1bn for the economy. Now I’m no financial guru, but according to my calculations, that’s a hefty profit. God knows what the Jubilee did. OK, so we’ve established the wedding may have helped our struggling economy, but how else do we benefit from royalty?
Aside from the millions of pounds earned from tourists visiting their endless estates and fancy buildings, the Royal Family are highly respected worldwide, they continue to generate healthy relations which more importantly affects Britain. There aren’t many guests that arrive at the White House to which the President (at the time) is wearing a white-tie dinner suit – in fact the Queen’s the first for this. Pretty good PR for Team GB, don’t you think?
Then there’s all the charity work they’re involved in, and to be honest this is where they excel, take the example of the Prince’s Trust. Important not to under-estimate this ambassadorial role for stuff that matters."
. A total quality post with a good summary of the key facts |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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The ceremonial stuff is all good - we need a figure head.
We don't need that figure head to be a monarchy. An elected president could generate the same type of interest and perform the same type of functions.
What the good PR from the dinner suit thing is, I don't understand. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I'd lock them up, detinate parliament and run the country myself as a tyrannical dictator. I think I'd look good on stamps and money.
I'd also change the national anthem to a 5 second jingle.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"what would we do with them if they stopped being royals though?
i don't think they'd cope as normal people and it could be cruel to force them to."
There are plenty of rich people tottering about in big houses. They won't be lonely. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"what would we do with them if they stopped being royals though?
i don't think they'd cope as normal people and it could be cruel to force them to.
There are plenty of rich people tottering about in big houses. They won't be lonely."
they won't cope. won't somebody think of the children!! |
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"Royals are selected by chance where as presidents are selected by the people they serve. To me that is all I need to know. "
Really ?
I would love to hear of a President in my lifetime who was elected by the people and not Corporations |
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By *artytwoCouple
over a year ago
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Why is it when the royal family and religion are brought up that the usual arse-licking sycophantic suspects jump in to justify the unjustifiable and deny the undeniable. Foreigners don't come to these islands to see the privileged parasites. If they did they would be sadly disappointed. The aristocracy are only interested in one thing and that is maintaining their position. They wouldn't (and don't) raise a finger to save one measly human life if it meant compromising their hegemony.
Proof? Diana. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Some British those who want to abolish the monarchy say the actual cost of the up keep of the royal family once you factor in things like security detail and the cost of preparing for royal visits is about 200 million pounds.
It's reported the royal family generates close to 500 million pounds, every year in tourism revenue, drawing visitors to historic royal sites like the Tower of London, Windsor Castle, and Buckingham Palace. The tourism agency says that of the 30 million foreign visitors who came to Britain in 2015, 5.8 million visited a castle .
It would seem to me that's a healthy ROI.
FYI I love the fact that we have a Royal family, I'm very proud of our national identity.
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By *artytwoCouple
over a year ago
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"Some British those who want to abolish the monarchy say the actual cost of the up keep of the royal family once you factor in things like security detail and the cost of preparing for royal visits is about 200 million pounds.
It's reported the royal family generates close to 500 million pounds, every year in tourism revenue, drawing visitors to historic royal sites like the Tower of London, Windsor Castle, and Buckingham Palace. The tourism agency says that of the 30 million foreign visitors who came to Britain in 2015, 5.8 million visited a castle .
It would seem to me that's a healthy ROI.
FYI I love the fact that we have a Royal family, I'm very proud of our national identity.
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That's why you live in the land of pixie dust and faeries presumably?
Top c_edentials. |
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By *artytwoCouple
over a year ago
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"what would we do with them if they stopped being royals though?
i don't think they'd cope as normal people and it could be cruel to force them to.
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Right. Who would be the new 'Anastasia'? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Some British those who want to abolish the monarchy say the actual cost of the up keep of the royal family once you factor in things like security detail and the cost of preparing for royal visits is about 200 million pounds.
It's reported the royal family generates close to 500 million pounds, every year in tourism revenue, drawing visitors to historic royal sites like the Tower of London, Windsor Castle, and Buckingham Palace. The tourism agency says that of the 30 million foreign visitors who came to Britain in 2015, 5.8 million visited a castle .
It would seem to me that's a healthy ROI.
FYI I love the fact that we have a Royal family, I'm very proud of our national identity.
That's why you live in the land of pixie dust and faeries presumably?
Top c_edentials."
Obviously the Royals visit often  |
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"Royals are selected by chance where as presidents are selected by the people they serve. To me that is all I need to know. "
And elected politicians have done such a bang-up job for this country in recent years. The Iraq War, economic mismanagement, massive debt, mass immigration and the accompanying housing and schooling crises, not to mention lying to us at every fucking opportunity.
Two quick questions for the pro Republicans. The first comes in two parts.
1a) Do you think a British monarch would ever sell out our country's interests for their own gain, whether that be political or financial?
1b) Name one politician that wouldn't*
(*and please don't say Jeremy Corbyn. His 100mph U-turn on the EU after forty years of opposition proved that he is every bit as self-interested as every other two-faced leech in Westminster.)
And
2) If you're so outraged by the lack of democracy in the appointing of a monarch with no political power, will you all be voting to leave the EU due to the identical lack of democracy in the appointing of a European Commission with extensive political power? |
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no
lets see how many of you here will still be hard at work at 90!
our history/monarchy is the envy of the world.
it's not just all of us that benefit from the tourism they bring it's the world trade too
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By *horehouse OP Couple
over a year ago
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"no
lets see how many of you here will still be hard at work at 90!
our history/monarchy is the envy of the world.
it's not just all of us that benefit from the tourism they bring it's the world trade too
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there bloody royals they have never done a days hard work ..many countries don't have royals but some how they get world trade and tourism .envy of the world mm I don't believe so .. |
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Not including the queen because she is a good old girl,but is part of me that thinks what right have they got to be in that position,it's not like the old days when they fought wars for the country,saying that its tradition and they do bring a hell of a lot of money into the country, we would be less as a country without them, am 100% sure that they should skip Charles and go to William mind |
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"no
lets see how many of you here will still be hard at work at 90!
our history/monarchy is the envy of the world.
it's not just all of us that benefit from the tourism they bring it's the world trade too
there bloody royals they have never done a days hard work ..many countries don't have royals but some how they get world trade and tourism .envy of the world mm I don't believe so .. "
. A lot of people would be incapable of working as hard as the Queen or Charles . How many people are still working at 90. ? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Maybe they don't like being royal anyway. Perhaps the burden weighs heavily.
The Queen my not be really into queening at her age."
Some do abdicate.
But it must be grim basicaly being told as a kid "yeah sorry your career is already determined"
Id like to see charles abdicate when his mum dies and pass it straight to william though |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"no
lets see how many of you here will still be hard at work at 90!
our history/monarchy is the envy of the world.
it's not just all of us that benefit from the tourism they bring it's the world trade too
there bloody royals they have never done a days hard work ..many countries don't have royals but some how they get world trade and tourism .envy of the world mm I don't believe so .. "
Fighting in aghanistan or flying a search and rescue helecopter in the flaklands arent a hard days work to you?
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Royals are selected by chance where as presidents are selected by the people they serve. To me that is all I need to know.
And elected politicians have done such a bang-up job for this country in recent years. The Iraq War, economic mismanagement, massive debt, mass immigration and the accompanying housing and schooling crises, not to mention lying to us at every fucking opportunity.
Two quick questions for the pro Republicans. The first comes in two parts.
1a) Do you think a British monarch would ever sell out our country's interests for their own gain, whether that be political or financial?
1b) Name one politician that wouldn't*
(*and please don't say Jeremy Corbyn. His 100mph U-turn on the EU after forty years of opposition proved that he is every bit as self-interested as every other two-faced leech in Westminster.)
And
2) If you're so outraged by the lack of democracy in the appointing of a monarch with no political power, will you all be voting to leave the EU due to the identical lack of democracy in the appointing of a European Commission with extensive political power? "
It might be a good idea if you check the history books before you come down on the side of the monachy. There have been many times where kings and Queens of this country have done whatever they wanted to to safe guard themselves. And democracy is the people deciding who leads them. We vote, we have our say. We have as much right as any other human to voice our opinions on who leads us. We live in 2016 not the dark ages. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I'm quite anti royalist, for a great many reasons. But I take issue with people who say they don't work.
I watched William driving his big yellow ambulance daily for several years. Bumped into Kate in Waitrose twice as well. I get the impression both of them would chuck the royal life at the drop of a hat and live in their cottage on the island. |
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"what would we do with them if they stopped being royals though?
i don't think they'd cope as normal people and it could be cruel to force them to.
Right. Who would be the new 'Anastasia'?"
So you condone the killing of women and children and then the slaughter of millions of people that don't agree with you...
Typical of the left wing...
Freedom for all as long as it's on our terms and if you don't agree we will kill you...
Funny how it's always the same with the left, hate with a passion things you haven't got or don't understand or agree with... |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Let’s start with the simple numbers; the Royal wedding cost approximately £20m and it is calculated to have generated £1bn for the economy. Now I’m no financial guru, but according to my calculations, that’s a hefty profit. God knows what the Jubilee did. OK, so we’ve established the wedding may have helped our struggling economy, but how else do we benefit from royalty?
Aside from the millions of pounds earned from tourists visiting their endless estates and fancy buildings, the Royal Family are highly respected worldwide, they continue to generate healthy relations which more importantly affects Britain. There aren’t many guests that arrive at the White House to which the President (at the time) is wearing a white-tie dinner suit – in fact the Queen’s the first for this. Pretty good PR for Team GB, don’t you think?
Then there’s all the charity work they’re involved in, and to be honest this is where they excel, take the example of the Prince’s Trust. Important not to under-estimate this ambassadorial role for stuff that matters.
I'm so glad you wrote this and all I have to do is agree "
Same here X |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Let’s start with the simple numbers; the Royal wedding cost approximately £20m and it is calculated to have generated £1bn for the economy. Now I’m no financial guru, but according to my calculations, that’s a hefty profit. God knows what the Jubilee did. OK, so we’ve established the wedding may have helped our struggling economy, but how else do we benefit from royalty?
Aside from the millions of pounds earned from tourists visiting their endless estates and fancy buildings, the Royal Family are highly respected worldwide, they continue to generate healthy relations which more importantly affects Britain. There aren’t many guests that arrive at the White House to which the President (at the time) is wearing a white-tie dinner suit – in fact the Queen’s the first for this. Pretty good PR for Team GB, don’t you think?
Then there’s all the charity work they’re involved in, and to be honest this is where they excel, take the example of the Prince’s Trust. Important not to under-estimate this ambassadorial role for stuff that matters.
I'm so glad you wrote this and all I have to do is agree "
Me too and the comment about paying for a president, would be the same cost in the end, if not more
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By *arry247Couple
over a year ago
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"My views on this have changed a lot.
I see no place for a monarchy in the 21st century. I'm happy for a few of them to keep their big house in London for the time being (but they may need to share it with a future president), but the rest of them are not needed.
Yes I would like a referendum.
Wait why would they have to share thier private property with anyone?
Once they were no longer the royal family they'd still own the estate
Why would they?"
Not only do they own most of the properties they live in the also own land (creating employment) and pay millions of pounds tax every year unlike others including politicians who avoid tax.
Jobs in many places would disappear if we got rid of the Royal Family.
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By (user no longer on site)
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"My views on this have changed a lot.
I see no place for a monarchy in the 21st century. I'm happy for a few of them to keep their big house in London for the time being (but they may need to share it with a future president), but the rest of them are not needed.
Yes I would like a referendum.
Wait why would they have to share thier private property with anyone?
Once they were no longer the royal family they'd still own the estate
Why would they?
Not only do they own most of the properties they live in the also own land (creating employment) and pay millions of pounds tax every year unlike others including politicians who avoid tax.
Jobs in many places would disappear if we got rid of the Royal Family.
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Got any references at all to back up that statement, or is it just personal opinion? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Is having a monarchy an out dated idea in the 21st century?..should we have a referendum to see if they should stay ? .. The Royal family do a great job and bring lots of tourism to the UK. Why would we want to damage the tourist industry by changing it ."
and not just tourism, they are truly ambassadors to the UK |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Let’s start with the simple numbers; the Royal wedding cost approximately £20m and it is calculated to have generated £1bn for the economy. Now I’m no financial guru, but according to my calculations, that’s a hefty profit. God knows what the Jubilee did. OK, so we’ve established the wedding may have helped our struggling economy, but how else do we benefit from royalty?
Aside from the millions of pounds earned from tourists visiting their endless estates and fancy buildings, the Royal Family are highly respected worldwide, they continue to generate healthy relations which more importantly affects Britain. There aren’t many guests that arrive at the White House to which the President (at the time) is wearing a white-tie dinner suit – in fact the Queen’s the first for this. Pretty good PR for Team GB, don’t you think?
Then there’s all the charity work they’re involved in, and to be honest this is where they excel, take the example of the Prince’s Trust. Important not to under-estimate this ambassadorial role for stuff that matters.
I'm so glad you wrote this and all I have to do is agree "
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By *edMan
over a year ago
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I love it when people hark on about dissolving institutions that have served us so well for hund_eds of years.
Does anyone believe we would get more people voting for a president than we get people who approve of the monarchy?
We struggle to get enough people to vote in a general election to make it a valid result.
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Royals are selected by chance where as presidents are selected by the people they serve. To me that is all I need to know.
And elected politicians have done such a bang-up job for this country in recent years. The Iraq War, economic mismanagement, massive debt, mass immigration and the accompanying housing and schooling crises, not to mention lying to us at every fucking opportunity.
Two quick questions for the pro Republicans. The first comes in two parts.
1a) Do you think a British monarch would ever sell out our country's interests for their own gain, whether that be political or financial?
1b) Name one politician that wouldn't*
(*and please don't say Jeremy Corbyn. His 100mph U-turn on the EU after forty years of opposition proved that he is every bit as self-interested as every other two-faced leech in Westminster.)
And
2) If you're so outraged by the lack of democracy in the appointing of a monarch with no political power, will you all be voting to leave the EU due to the identical lack of democracy in the appointing of a European Commission with extensive political power? "
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Do you happen to know how Rudolph Hess ended up spending his entire life in Spandau!.
The monarchy and Nazi Germany were not exactly committed enemies! |
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By *inaTitzTV/TS
over a year ago
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I think plenty of people still visit Versailles and the Romanov palaces, despite no royal family living there. Any proposed boost to the economy from a royal event seems to presuppose that people wouldn't spend the money on something else. People out celebrating the jubilee or a royal wedding are hardly likely to just burn the money if it didn't happen.
This article is interesting:
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/the-biggest-myth-about-the-queen-her-contribution-to-the-british-economy-10491277.html
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Our Royal family is one of the defining features of Britain. We are one of the few Nations to still have a royal family and that is something to be proud of. They represent our Nation and I'm sure you want people to think that the Brits are hard working people who are polite and considerate.
When people think of Britain, 50% will think of the Royal Family and if we take that away it will also take away our identity. |
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If alot of people had acess to the best doctors and health care all their life then they probably would be working at 90 is not like you see her majesty popping down to the local gp.. |
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By *horehouse OP Couple
over a year ago
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"Our Royal family is one of the defining features of Britain. We are one of the few Nations to still have a royal family and that is something to be proud of. They represent our Nation and I'm sure you want people to think that the Brits are hard working people who are polite and considerate.
When people think of Britain, 50% will think of the Royal Family and if we take that away it will also take away our identity."
polite and considerate is not how I would describe prince Philip ..who isn't even of British origin |
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"Royals are selected by chance where as presidents are selected by the people they serve. To me that is all I need to know.
And elected politicians have done such a bang-up job for this country in recent years. The Iraq War, economic mismanagement, massive debt, mass immigration and the accompanying housing and schooling crises, not to mention lying to us at every fucking opportunity.
Two quick questions for the pro Republicans. The first comes in two parts.
1a) Do you think a British monarch would ever sell out our country's interests for their own gain, whether that be political or financial?
1b) Name one politician that wouldn't*
(*and please don't say Jeremy Corbyn. His 100mph U-turn on the EU after forty years of opposition proved that he is every bit as self-interested as every other two-faced leech in Westminster.)
And
2) If you're so outraged by the lack of democracy in the appointing of a monarch with no political power, will you all be voting to leave the EU due to the identical lack of democracy in the appointing of a European Commission with extensive political power? .
Do you happen to know how Rudolph Hess ended up spending his entire life in Spandau!.
The monarchy and Nazi Germany were not exactly committed enemies!"
After being found not guilty of war crimes but guilty of crimes against peace, he was imprisoned for life...
I'm sure the UK, USA,France and Russia all colluded to protect our royal family...  |
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"Our Royal family is one of the defining features of Britain. We are one of the few Nations to still have a royal family and that is something to be proud of. They represent our Nation and I'm sure you want people to think that the Brits are hard working people who are polite and considerate.
When people think of Britain, 50% will think of the Royal Family and if we take that away it will also take away our identity.polite and considerate is not how I would describe prince Philip ..who isn't even of British origin "
No he wasn't born in Britain he is Greek but of royal decent himself and raised from a boy in the UK.
He joined the Royal Navy in 1939 and saw active service in WW2. Prince Philip has supported the Queen for over 60 years, with royal duties and state visits.
Yes he is known for his sometimes blunt naval manner and plain speaking, but he has fulfilled a difficult role with loyalty and dedication. In addition to his royal duties, the Duke of Edinburgh is also the patron of many organisations, including The Duke of Edinburgh's Award and the World Wide Fund for Nature, and until 2011 was Chancellor of both the University of Cambridge and the University of Edinburgh.
Prince Philip with be 95 years old in June and although he is _educing the number of official engagements he continues to carry out many official duties and engagements in support of the Queen and the many charities and organisations of which he is a patron.  |
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"Royals are selected by chance where as presidents are selected by the people they serve. To me that is all I need to know.
And elected politicians have done such a bang-up job for this country in recent years. The Iraq War, economic mismanagement, massive debt, mass immigration and the accompanying housing and schooling crises, not to mention lying to us at every fucking opportunity.
Two quick questions for the pro Republicans. The first comes in two parts.
1a) Do you think a British monarch would ever sell out our country's interests for their own gain, whether that be political or financial?
1b) Name one politician that wouldn't*
(*and please don't say Jeremy Corbyn. His 100mph U-turn on the EU after forty years of opposition proved that he is every bit as self-interested as every other two-faced leech in Westminster.)
And
2) If you're so outraged by the lack of democracy in the appointing of a monarch with no political power, will you all be voting to leave the EU due to the identical lack of democracy in the appointing of a European Commission with extensive political power? .
Do you happen to know how Rudolph Hess ended up spending his entire life in Spandau!.
The monarchy and Nazi Germany were not exactly committed enemies!
After being found not guilty of war crimes but guilty of crimes against peace, he was imprisoned for life...
I'm sure the UK, USA,France and Russia all colluded to protect our royal family... "
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Bigger picture, it was posed that no royal would sell out their country to a foreign power.
There was a lot of collision and "sympathisers" between the Nazi party and British royals, Hess was actually arrested by mi5 after they intercepted exchanges between intermediary royals and himself trying to broker an agreement.
So in fact what I was stating was
That Winston Churchill who was elected didn't collude or sell out where as the royals were certainly looking at the option of doing it |
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By *horehouse OP Couple
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"Royals are selected by chance where as presidents are selected by the people they serve. To me that is all I need to know.
And elected politicians have done such a bang-up job for this country in recent years. The Iraq War, economic mismanagement, massive debt, mass immigration and the accompanying housing and schooling crises, not to mention lying to us at every fucking opportunity.
Two quick questions for the pro Republicans. The first comes in two parts.
1a) Do you think a British monarch would ever sell out our country's interests for their own gain, whether that be political or financial?
1b) Name one politician that wouldn't*
(*and please don't say Jeremy Corbyn. His 100mph U-turn on the EU after forty years of opposition proved that he is every bit as self-interested as every other two-faced leech in Westminster.)
And
2) If you're so outraged by the lack of democracy in the appointing of a monarch with no political power, will you all be voting to leave the EU due to the identical lack of democracy in the appointing of a European Commission with extensive political power? .
Do you happen to know how Rudolph Hess ended up spending his entire life in Spandau!.
The monarchy and Nazi Germany were not exactly committed enemies!
After being found not guilty of war crimes but guilty of crimes against peace, he was imprisoned for life...
I'm sure the UK, USA,France and Russia all colluded to protect our royal family... .
Bigger picture, it was posed that no royal would sell out their country to a foreign power.
There was a lot of collision and "sympathisers" between the Nazi party and British royals, Hess was actually arrested by mi5 after they intercepted exchanges between intermediary royals and himself trying to broker an agreement.
So in fact what I was stating was
That Winston Churchill who was elected didn't collude or sell out where as the royals were certainly looking at the option of doing it"
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"Is having a monarchy an out dated idea in the 21st century?..should we have a referendum to see if they should stay ? .."
Yes. Absurd and outdated nonsense. It nurtures a culture of obsequiousness and knowing your place. Securing a position through accident of birth has no place in a 21st century democracy. And the toadying of the media to these people is vomit inducing. |
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"Our Royal family is one of the defining features of Britain. We are one of the few Nations to still have a royal family and that is something to be proud of. They represent our Nation and I'm sure you want people to think that the Brits are hard working people who are polite and considerate.
When people think of Britain, 50% will think of the Royal Family and if we take that away it will also take away our identity.polite and considerate is not how I would describe prince Philip ..who isn't even of British origin
No he wasn't born in Britain he is Greek but of royal decent himself and raised from a boy in the UK.
He joined the Royal Navy in 1939 and saw active service in WW2. Prince Philip has supported the Queen for over 60 years, with royal duties and state visits.
Yes he is known for his sometimes blunt naval manner and plain speaking, but he has fulfilled a difficult role with loyalty and dedication. In addition to his royal duties, the Duke of Edinburgh is also the patron of many organisations, including The Duke of Edinburgh's Award and the World Wide Fund for Nature, and until 2011 was Chancellor of both the University of Cambridge and the University of Edinburgh.
Prince Philip with be 95 years old in June and although he is _educing the number of official engagements he continues to carry out many official duties and engagements in support of the Queen and the many charities and organisations of which he is a patron. "
Ah, Mr "Slanty Eyes." A great man. Apart from his nastiness. |
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"Our Royal family is one of the defining features of Britain. We are one of the few Nations to still have a royal family and that is something to be proud of. They represent our Nation and I'm sure you want people to think that the Brits are hard working people who are polite and considerate.
When people think of Britain, 50% will think of the Royal Family and if we take that away it will also take away our identity.polite and considerate is not how I would describe prince Philip ..who isn't even of British origin
It is great to see how active he is for his age
No he wasn't born in Britain he is Greek but of royal decent himself and raised from a boy in the UK.
He joined the Royal Navy in 1939 and saw active service in WW2. Prince Philip has supported the Queen for over 60 years, with royal duties and state visits.
Yes he is known for his sometimes blunt naval manner and plain speaking, but he has fulfilled a difficult role with loyalty and dedication. In addition to his royal duties, the Duke of Edinburgh is also the patron of many organisations, including The Duke of Edinburgh's Award and the World Wide Fund for Nature, and until 2011 was Chancellor of both the University of Cambridge and the University of Edinburgh.
Prince Philip with be 95 years old in June and although he is _educing the number of official engagements he continues to carry out many official duties and engagements in support of the Queen and the many charities and organisations of which he is a patron. "
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"no
lets see how many of you here will still be hard at work at 90!
our history/monarchy is the envy of the world.
it's not just all of us that benefit from the tourism they bring it's the world trade too
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because right across the world right now people are demanding monarchies for their own countries?...
Any Aussies on here? |
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"no
lets see how many of you here will still be hard at work at 90!
our history/monarchy is the envy of the world.
it's not just all of us that benefit from the tourism they bring it's the world trade too
because right across the world right now people are demanding monarchies for their own countries?...
Any Aussies on here? "
Luckily not, so they spend their money coming to see ours... |
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By *horehouse OP Couple
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"no
lets see how many of you here will still be hard at work at 90!
our history/monarchy is the envy of the world.
it's not just all of us that benefit from the tourism they bring it's the world trade too
because right across the world right now people are demanding monarchies for their own countries?...
Any Aussies on here?
Luckily not, so they spend their money coming to see ours... "
there's as much chance of seeing queenie at buck house as seeing a smoking bareback fucking couple over here in Fuerteventura .....so no queen no tourists .bloody bollocks of course tourists would continue to visit Blighty. |
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Do you happen to know how Rudolph Hess ended up spending his entire life in Spandau!.
The monarchy and Nazi Germany were not exactly committed enemies!
After being found not guilty of war crimes but guilty of crimes against peace, he was imprisoned for life...
I'm sure the UK, USA,France and Russia all colluded to protect our royal family... .
Bigger picture, it was posed that no royal would sell out their country to a foreign power.
There was a lot of collision and "sympathisers" between the Nazi party and British royals, Hess was actually arrested by mi5 after they intercepted exchanges between intermediary royals and himself trying to broker an agreement.
So in fact what I was stating was
That Winston Churchill who was elected didn't collude or sell out where as the royals were certainly looking at the option of doing it"
There is a lot of theories about what Hessle was doing, it is strongly believed that he had come to see the Duke of Hamilton to broker a peace deal, along the lines of the one that had been broke_ed by Chamberlain... A PM voted in to power...
Like every other country involved in the war, there were people from the highest to the lowest that were under Hitler's spell.
The royal family have vert little in the way of real power, so other than introductions they would have had little to do with a real deal.
So far the two best examples given are Russia and France, both found life under the rule of citizens to be harsher and a lot more lethal to ordinary people... |
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"I would just like to wish her majesty happy birthday for tomorrow.
God save the queen"
When you were told there were some old queens on here...
...they didn't mean that one |
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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago
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I'd hate to think who we'd vote for as a Head of State.
Jeez, even naming a vessel ends up with Boaty McBoatface when put to the popular vote.
The Royal Family has adapted over the years and the Queen has led that change.
It may be anachronistic but so it much of Britishness. I'm very happy to have our Royal Family and see the benefit they bring to the country.
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"A rather expensive anachronistic soap opera.. More a diversion from daily grind for the plebs of this country and the head of our rigid constrictive class system 
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The Crown Estate produces £210 million plus a year which goes to the government. The government returns about £37.5 million to the Queen.
The maximum returned is 15%.
Any money out of that, that the Queen uses for private expenses, she pays tax on, as she does on any private investments.
Due to the increase in off shore wind farms etc, the crown estate's income is due to double by 2020. However the amount returned to the Queen will not increase more than is necessary, so in real terms her returned % will be halved.
The civil list that pays for the other royals is also refunded by the Queen...
So overall hardly benefit scroungers.
In addition to the money above, money that is brought in to hotels, travel, souvenirs etc to areas near royal buildings, I would say we don't do too bad out of the royal family... |
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"21st century and you call a fellow human being your royal highness, and not to speak to them unless invited to...get a feckin grip"
Funny thing is the one fairly senior royal I have spoken to was nothing like that at all...
Just a normal person who stopped for a chat whilst waiting for someone...
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