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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Birds of a feather, flock together"
People within a social class tend to share common experiences, education and work roles. Such a connection in common interests and values would suggest that this is as an important factor in meeting new swingers successfully. Therefore, it makes sense to include your individual social class in your profile to help meet similar people.
Others may say that it is flawed and reduces your chance of meeting amazing people that you otherwise wouldn't, as well as some showing off their snobbiness.
What is your view on displaying your individual social class in your profile? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I think in the outside word this is certainly true. I think it's one of the things that defines your class actually.
But on the internet I don't think the same should be applied. I've had some great conversations and meet ups with people who have a completely different experience to myself. To present that at face value would lead to elitism and discrimination.
Also people would lie. Or use it as a means to brag. And I hate both of those.
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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Completely agree with all your points and their good reasons not too.
However, there have been some occasions where we have simply not gelled with the other person for reasons related to our class. This can include what we would talk about socially to even arranging a meet venue (in relation to costs as the other party involved may be reluctant, worried about the price).
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Who decides what class you are?
What are the definitions?"
Thats just based on occupation using the NRS social grade.
So maybe easier to talk about what you do for a living rather than class. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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No I disagree completely. People without 2 peanuts to rub together can have more class in their little finger than someone with millions in the bank.
Plus occupation - again that doesn't reflect class. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Completely agree with all your points and their good reasons not too.
However, there have been some occasions where we have simply not gelled with the other person for reasons related to our class. This can include what we would talk about socially to even arranging a meet venue (in relation to costs as the other party involved may be reluctant, worried about the price).
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Ah but then you're assuming that class is defined through economic measures.
I myself am a master's postgrad, I volunteer for a library and consequently have very little money.
But I would never call myself working class. |
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"No I disagree completely. People without 2 peanuts to rub together can have more class in their little finger than someone with millions in the bank.
Plus occupation - again that doesn't reflect class. "
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By (user no longer on site)
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PLU (people like us)
If what somebody does for a living, where they live etc as well as is physically attractive to you determines who you choose to have sex with you are going to struggle. As assuming it is applied in reverse the number of criteria matches required for success expands exponentially.
Even more so in couples seeking couples.
strangely  alcohol and desperation seem to soften these criteria especially in the male half of couples as closing time in clubs approaches. |
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"Who decides what class you are?
What are the definitions?
Thats just based on occupation using the NRS social grade.
So maybe easier to talk about what you do for a living rather than class."
So how would you class a privately educated banker who's unemployed? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Completely agree with all your points and their good reasons not too.
However, there have been some occasions where we have simply not gelled with the other person for reasons related to our class. This can include what we would talk about socially to even arranging a meet venue (in relation to costs as the other party involved may be reluctant, worried about the price).
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I think you're experiencing problems because you aren't spending the time before agreeing to meet talking about things that are important to you on a meet. I think it has nothing to do with class. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Completely agree with all your points and their good reasons not too.
However, there have been some occasions where we have simply not gelled with the other person for reasons related to our class. This can include what we would talk about socially to even arranging a meet venue (in relation to costs as the other party involved may be reluctant, worried about the price).
Ah but then you're assuming that class is defined through economic measures.
I myself am a master's postgrad, I volunteer for a library and consequently have very little money.
But I would never call myself working class. "
Perfect example of why it won't work. And clearly people become very angry using words such as 'class' as its meaning in social dialogue is one that can be used in the derogatory.
Hence, it appears your suggesting that it should not be class or economics but rather qualifications/education?
The only reason we bring this up is that, for example, smoking or tattoos have a small bearing on us meeting people than what we have in common; as we prefer social meets first. |
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Dating wise defo
I'm not a snob but I defo need mental stimulation
I would get easily bored
When I turn up to meets etc peiple feel insecure some times coz of the way I dress n the car I drive but
I earn a decent amount had private education etc but of your a decent person your a decent person n that isn't defined by the money in your pocket
It's more how you carry yourself in my eyes |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Completely agree with all your points and their good reasons not too.
However, there have been some occasions where we have simply not gelled with the other person for reasons related to our class. This can include what we would talk about socially to even arranging a meet venue (in relation to costs as the other party involved may be reluctant, worried about the price).
Ah but then you're assuming that class is defined through economic measures.
I myself am a master's postgrad, I volunteer for a library and consequently have very little money.
But I would never call myself working class.
Perfect example of why it won't work. And clearly people become very angry using words such as 'class' as its meaning in social dialogue is one that can be used in the derogatory.
Hence, it appears your suggesting that it should not be class or economics but rather qualifications/education?
The only reason we bring this up is that, for example, smoking or tattoos have a small bearing on us meeting people than what we have in common; as we prefer social meets first. "
Are you meeting to have sex eventually or write a dissertation together ? |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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And just to make it clear, I didn't say that we should have any of these on fab but merely asking a question: is there any other factor that we could have to help people find others in a more effective manner. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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Not looking for someone to complete my research thesis, but would like some mental stimulation as that is equally as important as sexual stimulation.
Also, as mentioned, what you do or drive etc etc etc may not matter to you but can intimidate the other party. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Completely agree with all your points and their good reasons not too.
However, there have been some occasions where we have simply not gelled with the other person for reasons related to our class. This can include what we would talk about socially to even arranging a meet venue (in relation to costs as the other party involved may be reluctant, worried about the price).
Ah but then you're assuming that class is defined through economic measures.
I myself am a master's postgrad, I volunteer for a library and consequently have very little money.
But I would never call myself working class.
Perfect example of why it won't work. And clearly people become very angry using words such as 'class' as its meaning in social dialogue is one that can be used in the derogatory.
Hence, it appears your suggesting that it should not be class or economics but rather qualifications/education?
The only reason we bring this up is that, for example, smoking or tattoos have a small bearing on us meeting people than what we have in common; as we prefer social meets first. "
Nope I think none of this is relevant. As an example... If you have tattoos it means nothing, and a social isnt necessarily going to help... at the social if you get along like a house on fire agree that the sex is likely to be great fun and then take all your clothes off to find he or she has a tattoo. What do you do? Put all your clothes back on and walk out or kick them out!? Class or breeding or ancestral background, means nothing when you all have your clothes off, its perfect for breaking any barrier
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By (user no longer on site)
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If it's just about mental stimulation then it's not a class issue. I'm unemployed at the moment but relatively intelligent. I know about Capatilism, Communism, Buckminster Fuller, Jacque Fresco, Science, Economics at a basic level etc... I have a decent understanding of the way the world works and the way it could be and enjoy educating myself etc...but I'm on the 'dole'.
Donald Trump is rich and dumb (at least publicly).
If someone can't afford to meet at a certain venue then meet somewhere else... |
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What's the saying you can buy status but you can't buy class...or something like that...I come from a well to do family and don't mix with other well to do people...I only have to see what money has done to my extended family and it isn't pretty |
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Alass groupings don't really apply these days, the working class used to be the bottom of the ladder,now there is a whole new group in society who will barely work a day in their lives. As for education and money i've met many a graduate who were thick as shit. I also know a couple of self made millionaires but to look and talk to them you wouldnt have a clue. People are just different regardless of their situations. |
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"What's the saying you can buy status but you can't buy class...or something like that...I come from a well to do family and don't mix with other well to do people...I only have to see what money has done to my extended family and it isn't pretty "
I only have to see the way they look down their nose at me because I haven't gone down their way of life...it's laughable considering we are from the same "stock" |
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By (user no longer on site)
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If someone approached me and was more interested in my social background I wouldn't meet them. We can all harp on about our postgraduate degrees and other achievements but I'm more interested in how that person is going to treat me if I choose to meet them. I couldn't give a hoot on their "class" and anyone who is more interested in this sounds quite snobbish and boring. |
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"If it's just about mental stimulation then it's not a class issue. I'm unemployed at the moment but relatively intelligent. I know about Capatilism, Communism, Buckminster Fuller, Jacque Fresco, Science, Economics at a basic level etc... I have a decent understanding of the way the world works and the way it could be and enjoy educating myself etc...but I'm on the 'dole'.
Donald Trump is rich and dumb (at least publicly).
If someone can't afford to meet at a certain venue then meet somewhere else..."
Again, agree fully. But my question is, how can someone else know all that about you from your profile in an easy and consistent way?
You can put that in your profile but to some that may interpret that as arrogant. And absence of that information on a profile may mean that they simply didn't put it in. It's clear things such as social class, how much you earn etc are crap. But just as someone doesn't want to meet a person who has tattoos, someone may not want to meet someone who can't hold a certain level of social conversation (whatever that level maybe). I for one cannot maintain a discussion about buying second hand cars (which was a popular recent forum topic) or Man Utd team structure but can talk about the current economic climate for ages. |
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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago
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I have absolutely no idea what my 'individual social class' is. I seem to get one well with a fairly wide range of people.
As for deciding who would be my type on a one on one meet, I rely on what they have on their profile. Years of reading between the lines has given me a reasonably good sense of what people will be like in real life meets. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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You can put that in your profile but to some that may interpret that as arrogant. And absence of that information on a profile may mean that they simply didn't put it in. It's clear things such as social class, how much you earn etc are crap. But just as someone doesn't want to meet a person who has tattoos, someone may not want to meet someone who can't hold a certain level of social conversation (whatever that level maybe). I for one cannot maintain a discussion about buying second hand cars (which was a popular recent forum topic) or Man Utd team structure but can talk about the current economic climate for ages."
Some could talk about all those topics in equal measure.
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By (user no longer on site)
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I wouldn't describe it as social class but I am drawn to meet people who have some ambition or aspiration.
I'd have more in common with someone from a working class background with a good career than someone middle class who works 6 hours a week in a jewellery shop or something.
I don't feel the need to put it on my profile, you can tell by the way people present themselves on theirs. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"If it's just about mental stimulation then it's not a class issue. I'm unemployed at the moment but relatively intelligent. I know about Capatilism, Communism, Buckminster Fuller, Jacque Fresco, Science, Economics at a basic level etc... I have a decent understanding of the way the world works and the way it could be and enjoy educating myself etc...but I'm on the 'dole'.
Donald Trump is rich and dumb (at least publicly).
If someone can't afford to meet at a certain venue then meet somewhere else...
Again, agree fully. But my question is, how can someone else know all that about you from your profile in an easy and consistent way?
You can put that in your profile but to some that may interpret that as arrogant. And absence of that information on a profile may mean that they simply didn't put it in. It's clear things such as social class, how much you earn etc are crap. But just as someone doesn't want to meet a person who has tattoos, someone may not want to meet someone who can't hold a certain level of social conversation (whatever that level maybe). I for one cannot maintain a discussion about buying second hand cars (which was a popular recent forum topic) or Man Utd team structure but can talk about the current economic climate for ages."
So what you're actually inferring, is that working class people lack the intelligence to converse about anything other than football and old bangers.
Bit of a generalisation isn't it? I know several middle class folk who are too stupid to tie their own shoelaces,and
quite a lot of "working class" folk who have a university degree, despite not having had the benefit of a private education.
I think you need to broaden your horizons a little. |
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""Birds of a feather, flock together"
People within a social class tend to share common experiences, education and work roles. Such a connection in common interests and values would suggest that this is as an important factor in meeting new swingers successfully. Therefore, it makes sense to include your individual social class in your profile to help meet similar people.
Others may say that it is flawed and reduces your chance of meeting amazing people that you otherwise wouldn't, as well as some showing off their snobbiness.
What is your view on displaying your individual social class in your profile?"
Remind me someone. What fucking century is it again ? |
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The fact is you can 'not gel' with people for any number of reasons, or find you get on with them for a whole load more - I believe it's down to the individual. I laugh when people talk about going on road trips to meet lots of people off fabs as they feel they will have 'something in common', because I feel a liking for sex is nowhere near enough to assume any kind of commonality!
Yes it's nice to find people who you feel socially comfortable with but I think that has to be part of your selection process - a quick phone call is usually all that is required for you to know. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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I personally hate the class system in this country, it's ridiculous, it was hilarious when I was trying to explain it to a Lithuanian friend of mine, he thought I was joking.
I've never felt aligned with any class, my parents were working class although my mothers family came from old money, that was lost by previous generations.
I have more in common with my middle class friends than I do with my workouts by class friends, but I know where I came from.
My earnings are self made and would put me firmly in the middle class earnings bracket but anyone who knows me knows I'm common as muck, but I refuse to be held to a social class, if I want to spend time with factory workers, I don't know why I shouldn't, if I want to spend time with doctors I will, if I was to spend time with minor royals I'll do that to.
We're to hung up on how we are bought up, and don't stop to think if someone else having a different life experience could enrich our own |
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By (user no longer on site)
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""Birds of a feather, flock together"
People within a social class tend to share common experiences, education and work roles. Such a connection in common interests and values would suggest that this is as an important factor in meeting new swingers successfully. Therefore, it makes sense to include your individual social class in your profile to help meet similar people.
Others may say that it is flawed and reduces your chance of meeting amazing people that you otherwise wouldn't, as well as some showing off their snobbiness.
What is your view on displaying your individual social class in your profile?"
I suspect it's hard to display your social class in any meaningful way anymore. Society is much, much more complicated now than the old three class system. I think the BBC had an article about how there are 10+ recognised social classes a year or two again (with a quiz to figure out which one you fit into).
I mean, for instance, I had grandparents who worked in london as low paid working class. A Mother who did the same and a father who was a civil servant. But I grew up on a farm, which most people consider middle class. I'm the first woman in my family to get an education, albeit at 30. My cultural intake is more like someone from the upper class/social elite, but my income - because I choose it to be - is more like the lower classes. However I'm living with someone who is lower than working class by birth, but would now easily be upper middle class by income.
Where do I fit? There's no easy answer.
I find that I generally date people who are comfortably middle class. I don't seek people out for this (and meet most people in person, where you don't have a profile to judge by) but I suspect that I look for worldliness, intelligence, and similar hobbies to my own when talking to a person initially - which are all pretty middle class traits. I find that they have more in common with me.
I dated a guy on my course for a while who stands to inherit multiple-millions in the form of a country estate. We had horse riding and art in common, but beyond that he struggled to understand my life and my experiences until that point. Equally I met a lower working class guy for a few dates who left school at 14 and has worked ever since on the docks (I used to work in logistics) - but I prefer text-based communication and struggled to talk to him between dates because his English was very poor (and was the reason he dropped out of school).
I don't really know what I'm trying to say. I suspect that shared experience is actually really important in building friendships and more intimate relationships. If you can't relate to people, how do you understand them? What do you talk about? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Are you meeting to have sex eventually or write a dissertation together ? "
I generally find that we don't get to the sex part if they wouldn't be capable of writing a dissertation.
Stimulate my mind - then I might let you stimulate my body. |
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"If it's just about mental stimulation then it's not a class issue. I'm unemployed at the moment but relatively intelligent. I know about Capatilism, Communism, Buckminster Fuller, Jacque Fresco, Science, Economics at a basic level etc... I have a decent understanding of the way the world works and the way it could be and enjoy educating myself etc...but I'm on the 'dole'.
Donald Trump is rich and dumb (at least publicly).
If someone can't afford to meet at a certain venue then meet somewhere else...
Again, agree fully. But my question is, how can someone else know all that about you from your profile in an easy and consistent way?
You can put that in your profile but to some that may interpret that as arrogant. And absence of that information on a profile may mean that they simply didn't put it in. It's clear things such as social class, how much you earn etc are crap. But just as someone doesn't want to meet a person who has tattoos, someone may not want to meet someone who can't hold a certain level of social conversation (whatever that level maybe). I for one cannot maintain a discussion about buying second hand cars (which was a popular recent forum topic) or Man Utd team structure but can talk about the current economic climate for ages."
Someone could maybe just put as part of their interests that they are interested in current affairs or science etc...
Like, 'My interests include, self learning, science, current affairs' etc...
To me that wouldn't seem arrogant if it was worded like that, just someone letting people know on their profile what some of their non-sexual interests are..So when people read it, if they share the same interests then they'll know that they have some things in common to chat about outside of the sex stuff |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Adam replied very sensibly before .... But I just had to butt in to say
What a loud of utter fucking nonsense and tripe. I can out-snob many but I hang my head utterly defeated in the snobbery stakes.
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""Birds of a feather, flock together"
People within a social class tend to share common experiences, education and work roles. Such a connection in common interests and values would suggest that this is as an important factor in meeting new swingers successfully. Therefore, it makes sense to include your individual social class in your profile to help meet similar people.
Others may say that it is flawed and reduces your chance of meeting amazing people that you otherwise wouldn't, as well as some showing off their snobbiness.
What is your view on displaying your individual social class in your profile?
I suspect it's hard to display your social class in any meaningful way anymore. Society is much, much more complicated now than the old three class system. I think the BBC had an article about how there are 10+ recognised social classes a year or two again (with a quiz to figure out which one you fit into).
I mean, for instance, I had grandparents who worked in london as low paid working class. A Mother who did the same and a father who was a civil servant. But I grew up on a farm, which most people consider middle class. I'm the first woman in my family to get an education, albeit at 30. My cultural intake is more like someone from the upper class/social elite, but my income - because I choose it to be - is more like the lower classes. However I'm living with someone who is lower than working class by birth, but would now easily be upper middle class by income.
Where do I fit? There's no easy answer.
I find that I generally date people who are comfortably middle class. I don't seek people out for this (and meet most people in person, where you don't have a profile to judge by) but I suspect that I look for worldliness, intelligence, and similar hobbies to my own when talking to a person initially - which are all pretty middle class traits. I find that they have more in common with me.
I dated a guy on my course for a while who stands to inherit multiple-millions in the form of a country estate. We had horse riding and art in common, but beyond that he struggled to understand my life and my experiences until that point. Equally I met a lower working class guy for a few dates who left school at 14 and has worked ever since on the docks (I used to work in logistics) - but I prefer text-based communication and struggled to talk to him between dates because his English was very poor (and was the reason he dropped out of school).
I don't really know what I'm trying to say. I suspect that shared experience is actually really important in building friendships and more intimate relationships. If you can't relate to people, how do you understand them? What do you talk about?"
Mmmm, claiming class is hard to define, whilst at the same time stereotyping the social hierarchy, and reinforcing your own middle class credentials, is quite an achievement.
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""Birds of a feather, flock together"
People within a social class tend to share common experiences, education and work roles. Such a connection in common interests and values would suggest that this is as an important factor in meeting new swingers successfully. Therefore, it makes sense to include your individual social class in your profile to help meet similar people.
Others may say that it is flawed and reduces your chance of meeting amazing people that you otherwise wouldn't, as well as some showing off their snobbiness.
What is your view on displaying your individual social class in your profile?
I suspect it's hard to display your social class in any meaningful way anymore. Society is much, much more complicated now than the old three class system. I think the BBC had an article about how there are 10+ recognised social classes a year or two again (with a quiz to figure out which one you fit into).
I mean, for instance, I had grandparents who worked in london as low paid working class. A Mother who did the same and a father who was a civil servant. But I grew up on a farm, which most people consider middle class. I'm the first woman in my family to get an education, albeit at 30. My cultural intake is more like someone from the upper class/social elite, but my income - because I choose it to be - is more like the lower classes. However I'm living with someone who is lower than working class by birth, but would now easily be upper middle class by income.
Where do I fit? There's no easy answer.
I find that I generally date people who are comfortably middle class. I don't seek people out for this (and meet most people in person, where you don't have a profile to judge by) but I suspect that I look for worldliness, intelligence, and similar hobbies to my own when talking to a person initially - which are all pretty middle class traits. I find that they have more in common with me.
I dated a guy on my course for a while who stands to inherit multiple-millions in the form of a country estate. We had horse riding and art in common, but beyond that he struggled to understand my life and my experiences until that point. Equally I met a lower working class guy for a few dates who left school at 14 and has worked ever since on the docks (I used to work in logistics) - but I prefer text-based communication and struggled to talk to him between dates because his English was very poor (and was the reason he dropped out of school).
I don't really know what I'm trying to say. I suspect that shared experience is actually really important in building friendships and more intimate relationships. If you can't relate to people, how do you understand them? What do you talk about?
Mmmm, claiming class is hard to define, whilst at the same time stereotyping the social hierarchy, and reinforcing your own middle class credentials, is quite an achievement.
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"No I disagree completely. People without 2 peanuts to rub together can have more class in their little finger than someone with millions in the bank.
Plus occupation - again that doesn't reflect class. "
I think the OP is talking about social class rather than having class |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Mmmm, claiming class is hard to define, whilst at the same time stereotyping the social hierarchy, and reinforcing your own middle class credentials, is quite an achievement.
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As you'll note - I discussed the idea of old social hierarchies and new social hierarchies. I don't personally fit into the old social hierarchies, although I often meet people who do fit more neatly into them.
I'm sorry if I didn't make it clear that I was switching between those things in my post, reading it back it wasn't written very well which is my own failing.
It was mostly a ramble though. I spend a large amount of my time thinking about class structures and how they affect the way that we live our lives and interact with others. |
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FWIW - I think it's more meaningful to describe people in the way that Americans tend to use.
Pink Collar - service industry workers
Blue Collar - manual labourers
White Collar - office workers
Grey Collar - technicians
Gold Collar - highly skilled professionals
No Collar - Creatives and similar.
It prevents it being so much about class, and is likely to put you more in touch with the kinds of people you can relate to. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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My question was based on social class and not having class.
I was basing it on the NRS social class scale which is based on occupation, education and income. However, I was not proposing that it is perfect or should be used and it's clear that those common values are shared by people who don't fall in the same social class. Obviously people jump to argue against social class very quickly but if you read my posts, I am merely asking, is there a way you can identify those that you may share some common values with? |
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The old idea of 'social class' doesn't work for me... however I think it's dishonest to pretend we don't seek to avoid certain 'types' of people and maybe to some extent seek out other types. |
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I think it rational to personally group people in one's own mind for ones personal understanding
I'm not so sure it is wise to express ones subjective reasoning especially in the old terms of class ( said cl arse of course) which will always be tainted with concept of hierarchy
I think the mathematical concept of sub sets where many cross over is the best perspective for example
Most high earners will have something in common and many low paid factory workers will, however some workers and some high earners will have cross overs for example , mail readers or guardian readers
Mountain bikers
It would be foolish to think a common link between a subset will mean other attributes of either group would be mirrored
We are all the same but different as my ex marine philosophical working class mentor taught me xxx |
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"FWIW - I think it's more meaningful to describe people in the way that Americans tend to use.
Pink Collar - service industry workers
Blue Collar - manual labourers
White Collar - office workers
Grey Collar - technicians
Gold Collar - highly skilled professionals
No Collar - Creatives and similar.
It prevents it being so much about class, and is likely to put you more in touch with the kinds of people you can relate to."
Just as much nonsense |
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"FWIW - I think it's more meaningful to describe people in the way that Americans tend to use.
Pink Collar - service industry workers
Blue Collar - manual labourers
White Collar - office workers
Grey Collar - technicians
Gold Collar - highly skilled professionals
No Collar - Creatives and similar.
It prevents it being so much about class, and is likely to put you more in touch with the kinds of people you can relate to.
Just as much nonsense"
According to this I'd have very warm neck. Not pink or gold though lol |
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Have a Masters degree, am an artist yet live in a council flat on low income. Proudly working class on both sides since forever.
I have friends and shags from a variety of backgrounds, standing, professions and levels of education. I don't care what class they are, as long as they have class.
(Though do tend to have a dislike for the privileged. Not all but many like to let you know they've never worked a day in their life)
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By (user no longer on site)
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""Birds of a feather, flock together"
People within a social class tend to share common experiences, education and work roles. Such a connection in common interests and values would suggest that this is as an important factor in meeting new swingers successfully. Therefore, it makes sense to include your individual social class in your profile to help meet similar people.
Others may say that it is flawed and reduces your chance of meeting amazing people that you otherwise wouldn't, as well as some showing off their snobbiness.
What is your view on displaying your individual social class in your profile?"
Fuck that,I don't want to meet uneducated,common as muck men who rarely go out of their home town. |
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"FWIW - I think it's more meaningful to describe people in the way that Americans tend to use.
Pink Collar - service industry workers
Blue Collar - manual labourers
White Collar - office workers
Grey Collar - technicians
Gold Collar - highly skilled professionals
No Collar - Creatives and similar.
It prevents it being so much about class, and is likely to put you more in touch with the kinds of people you can relate to."
I don't fit any of those collars,yet I relate to many of them. By relate I mean they love how I suck their cocks and fuck. Sex de-classifies us. |
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"The old idea of 'social class' doesn't work for me... however I think it's dishonest to pretend we don't seek to avoid certain 'types' of people and maybe to some extent seek out other types."
I try to avoid bigots and closed-minded people. They appear in all walks of life. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I don't fit any of those collars,yet I relate to many of them. By relate I mean they love how I suck their cocks and fuck. Sex de-classifies us. "
Only if you've got your mouth full. |
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"The old idea of 'social class' doesn't work for me... however I think it's dishonest to pretend we don't seek to avoid certain 'types' of people and maybe to some extent seek out other types.
I try to avoid bigots and closed-minded people. They appear in all walks of life."
You're certain of this? |
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"My question was based on social class and not having class.
I was basing it on the NRS social class scale which is based on occupation, education and income. However, I was not proposing that it is perfect or should be used and it's clear that those common values are shared by people who don't fall in the same social class. Obviously people jump to argue against social class very quickly but if you read my posts, I am merely asking, is there a way you can identify those that you may share some common values with?"
Yes: I get an idea quickly in a profile ( at least if there are a few words in it); them from texts and messages; from the way words are used, from the interests displayed;
From speaking to someone.
To me it's not " class " in the old fashioned sense; in fact Wasphunter's post summed up several things I was thinking of.
And I need to find people interesting: there are people on the forum that I find very interesting; and although we might disagree on politics or points of principle; the sorts of people who would be stimulating to talk and debate with .
And I have no interest , sexually , in people that are not interesting, mentally. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"The old idea of 'social class' doesn't work for me... however I think it's dishonest to pretend we don't seek to avoid certain 'types' of people and maybe to some extent seek out other types.
I try to avoid bigots and closed-minded people. They appear in all walks of life."
Doesn't being closed minded to closed minded people make you closed minded?  |
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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago
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I think those that put "professional" on their profiles are trying to allude to just this. It means very little as no one can work out what they mean by professional.
I grew up on 'Ackney in a poor family. My voice doesn't match this description so I'm assumed to be posh.
The work I do means some will call me a professional, although I don't hold a professional qualification.
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By (user no longer on site)
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"FWIW - I think it's more meaningful to describe people in the way that Americans tend to use.
Pink Collar - service industry workers
Blue Collar - manual labourers
White Collar - office workers
Grey Collar - technicians
Gold Collar - highly skilled professionals
No Collar - Creatives and similar.
It prevents it being so much about class, and is likely to put you more in touch with the kinds of people you can relate to."
I find that there is quite a crossover these days, and class is becoming less of an issue.
Personally I prefer people who are reasonably intelligent, and can converse on a range of topics, irrespective of their social class.
Stupid people are not really my ideal friends or acquaintances, whatever their upbringing. |
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"The old idea of 'social class' doesn't work for me... however I think it's dishonest to pretend we don't seek to avoid certain 'types' of people and maybe to some extent seek out other types.
I try to avoid bigots and closed-minded people. They appear in all walks of life.
Doesn't being closed minded to closed minded people make you closed minded? "
oh you ruined my next line |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"My question was based on social class and not having class.
I was basing it on the NRS social class scale which is based on occupation, education and income. However, I was not proposing that it is perfect or should be used and it's clear that those common values are shared by people who don't fall in the same social class. Obviously people jump to argue against social class very quickly but if you read my posts, I am merely asking, is there a way you can identify those that you may share some common values with?"
surely the best way is to have a chat? |
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(Though do tend to have a dislike for the privileged. Not all but many like to let you know they've never worked a day in their life)
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Through work I have met many privileged people.
The funny thing is that those privileged people from the upper classes are often friendly, approachable and comfortable with nothing to prove.
It can be the upper middle classes at are the arses who think they have to remind people how lucky/important they are... |
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(Though do tend to have a dislike for the privileged. Not all but many like to let you know they've never worked a day in their life)
Through work I have met many privileged people.
The funny thing is that those privileged people from the upper classes are often friendly, approachable and comfortable with nothing to prove.
It can be the upper middle classes at are the arses who think they have to remind people how lucky/important they are..."
Get back to the kitchen wench !! |
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By (user no longer on site)
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We had our footman escort a sexy young lady from the orgy bed the other day when she mentioned, between mouthfuls of cock, that she worked in retail.
The rest of us had a glass of sherry to get over the horror of it, then got back to fucking each other like animals  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"The old idea of 'social class' doesn't work for me... however I think it's dishonest to pretend we don't seek to avoid certain 'types' of people and maybe to some extent seek out other types.
I try to avoid bigots and closed-minded people. They appear in all walks of life.
Doesn't being closed minded to closed minded people make you closed minded? "
No. It's preferences  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"We had our footman escort a sexy young lady from the orgy bed the other day when she mentioned, between mouthfuls of cock, that she worked in retail.
The rest of us had a glass of sherry to get over the horror of it, then got back to fucking each other like animals "
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Pfffft, i live in bath.
There is a clear divide and some of the old money here....what total wankers!
Arrogant tosspots.
trustafarins,whove never worked a day until their mid twenties...
Thats aside, some who arent pricks. And are decent people.
But yes, class, or sociodemographic profile, however socially acceptable way you wish to reframe it, the societal pecking order very much exists and always will do.
Thats all. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Good thread, for reading at least, unsure if the OP feels they've had an answer that has clicked with their curiosity.
I don't think there's any way in which people would be able to put across what you're looking for in profiles, as it's so relative and personally interpreted.
Maybe ask what their favourite film is, it's just as arbitrary I suppose. |
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(Though do tend to have a dislike for the privileged. Not all but many like to let you know they've never worked a day in their life)
Through work I have met many privileged people.
The funny thing is that those privileged people from the upper classes are often friendly, approachable and comfortable with nothing to prove.
It can be the upper middle classes at are the arses who think they have to remind people how lucky/important they are...
Get back to the kitchen wench !!"
I think I am probably the first 6'4" guy with a beard to be called a wench... 
When all is said and done, if you are happy with who you are, it doesn't really matter what others think... |
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By (user no longer on site)
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A good thread. I seem to get on with any social class. Perhaps it is because I was adopted as a baby. My birth mother was a 16 year old Plymouth girl and my father was in the Navy. I was however adopted by a middle class couple from just outside Winchester.
I have several tattoos. Went into the army for a number of years which on the surface makes me look working class. However I now earn quite a high salary , own a nice cottage outside of Bournemouth and mix in wide social circle. Which makes me feel middle class.
As for meeting people , well I would meet a lady who is classy in herself rather than wealth. |
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Social class is no longer upper class, middle class and working class. As wasp stated the BBC done a survey, for Mike savages research, to determine an individuals class status. The survey is still there if you search for it, but it is rather amusing with the questions it asks. About your cultural interests and those you socialise with etc.
Go on take it and see what class it states you're in and share in here |
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"Social class is no longer upper class, middle class and working class. As wasp stated the BBC done a survey, for Mike savages research, to determine an individuals class status. The survey is still there if you search for it, but it is rather amusing with the questions it asks. About your cultural interests and those you socialise with etc.
Go on take it and see what class it states you're in and share in here "
Ooh I'm in a small distinctive new group apparently haha! |
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By *oodmessMan
over a year ago
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I have met people in positions of employment that would put most 'professionals' to shame. They neither bragged about their employment or salary received and instead simply enjoyed sex for what it was. They were neither one-off fucks but months and years of meeting each other. I can safely say that unless you are the pretentious type from the off, class (if pay is a factor in that), in my experience doesn't have baring on who you meet, as although educated - I don't class myself as 'professional' |
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""Birds of a feather, flock together"
People within a social class tend to share common experiences, education and work roles. Such a connection in common interests and values would suggest that this is as an important factor in meeting new swingers successfully. Therefore, it makes sense to include your individual social class in your profile to help meet similar people.
Others may say that it is flawed and reduces your chance of meeting amazing people that you otherwise wouldn't, as well as some showing off their snobbiness.
What is your view on displaying your individual social class in your profile?"
I'm on a couple of conventional dating websites, and have deliberately tailored my profile accordingly, to suggest this.
Reading between the lines it's pretty obvious what my background and upbringing is, related to the aforementioned topic.
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I'm not a fan of division nor thinking that much of my activities would work better with people who are narrowly categorised to a similar background.
I prefer people who share similar levels of respect for others, which isn't limited by the background that one has. |
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""Birds of a feather, flock together"
People within a social class tend to share common experiences, education and work roles. Such a connection in common interests and values would suggest that this is as an important factor in meeting new swingers successfully. Therefore, it makes sense to include your individual social class in your profile to help meet similar people.
Others may say that it is flawed and reduces your chance of meeting amazing people that you otherwise wouldn't, as well as some showing off their snobbiness.
What is your view on displaying your individual social class in your profile?"
OP, this really does sound a bit iffy to me.
You either have class or you don't.
The number of exams you passed, your employment and economic status only matter to those who know the price of everything and the value of nothing.
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