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"Or at least that's what The Telegraph are claiming it is, if you add it up for each of the 33 years he's been an MP, and were to try to buy a private pension based on an MP's pension scheme on top. It's official: If you read The Telegraph, they genuinely think you are an idiot! ". . . Papers don't like talking about wealthy people evading tax... There owners tend to get upset!. . I occasionally read the guardian in the library but I wouldn't buy a paper!. | |||
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"They are also claiming they have 'revealed' it...this publicly available information. Apparently it's also a scandal that he received this money from the state...like every other MP. "It is a pretty poor attempt at a story. At the weekend the sun ran a front page story about how Danny Ciprini had text another woman almost 2 weeks before breaking up with his girlfriend. They boasted the story was an exclusive... Ummm I think nobody else could be bothered to cover it! | |||
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"Well of course...but The Telegraph have decided it's decent fodder in the war to make people stop looking at Dodgy Dave and friends: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/04/12/jeremy-corbyns-3million-state-funded-salary-and-pension-revealed/" Interesting, I find labour's problems with anti-semitism far more distracting personally. | |||
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"Well of course...but The Telegraph have decided it's decent fodder in the war to make people stop looking at Dodgy Dave and friends: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/04/12/jeremy-corbyns-3million-state-funded-salary-and-pension-revealed/ Interesting, I find labour's problems with anti-semitism far more distracting personally. " Well, they are equally none existent as an issue, I'll give you that. Anyone who mentions those smears in seriousness plummets in my personal estimation, as it's clear they are more concerned with repeating smears than in anything resembling truth. Which is why The Telegraph run with it, naturally. | |||
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"Most peoples salaries look more impressive if you times it by 33! " And add on a pension they haven't had yet! | |||
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"Well of course...but The Telegraph have decided it's decent fodder in the war to make people stop looking at Dodgy Dave and friends: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/04/12/jeremy-corbyns-3million-state-funded-salary-and-pension-revealed/ Interesting, I find labour's problems with anti-semitism far more distracting personally. Well, they are equally none existent as an issue, I'll give you that. Anyone who mentions those smears in seriousness plummets in my personal estimation, as it's clear they are more concerned with repeating smears than in anything resembling truth. Which is why The Telegraph run with it, naturally." It's the BBC running with the anti-semitism story and they have labour councillors posting on twitter about how great Hitler was so it's not a completely fabricated story. | |||
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"Well of course...but The Telegraph have decided it's decent fodder in the war to make people stop looking at Dodgy Dave and friends: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/04/12/jeremy-corbyns-3million-state-funded-salary-and-pension-revealed/ Interesting, I find labour's problems with anti-semitism far more distracting personally. Well, they are equally none existent as an issue, I'll give you that. Anyone who mentions those smears in seriousness plummets in my personal estimation, as it's clear they are more concerned with repeating smears than in anything resembling truth. Which is why The Telegraph run with it, naturally. It's the BBC running with the anti-semitism story and they have labour councillors posting on twitter about how great Hitler was so it's not a completely fabricated story. " It's not completely fabricated, no, but to suggest the actions of a couple of people is on any way representative of a party of thousands is mendacious. Nigel Evans was cleared of raping and sexually assaulting seven people a couple of years ago, do we conclude from that the Conservative party has a serious problem with suspected sexual assaults amongst it's MPs? | |||
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"Most peoples salaries look more impressive if you times it by 33! And add on a pension they haven't had yet!" Yep, actually is salary is £10,000,000 if you add on that lottery win that he might get in the future! | |||
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"Most peoples salaries look more impressive if you times it by 33! And add on a pension they haven't had yet! Yep, actually is salary is £10,000,000 if you add on that lottery win that he might get in the future! " And the state paid for the ticket!!!!!!! Jeremy Corbyn in lavish lotto lolly lifestyle lies scandal!!!!! | |||
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"The weirdo Barclay brothers? "Born Sir David Rowat Barclay and Sir Frederick Hugh Barclay has an estimated net worth of $3.7 billion according to Forbes as of 2014. The twins commonly referred as "Barclay Brothers", are British businessmen." Fuck off. "* tell a lie... "Today the brothers are said to be worth £6bn, according to the Sunday Times Rich List 2015. Noting their homes in the Channel Islands and Monaco, the Guardian has described them as "tax exiles". But Sir Frederick has been quoted before as saying he and his brother left the UK solely for health reasons." http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-31517392 | |||
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"Most peoples salaries look more impressive if you times it by 33! And add on a pension they haven't had yet! Yep, actually is salary is £10,000,000 if you add on that lottery win that he might get in the future! And the state paid for the ticket!!!!!!! Jeremy Corbyn in lavish lotto lolly lifestyle lies scandal!!!!!" The bastard! | |||
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"Well of course...but The Telegraph have decided it's decent fodder in the war to make people stop looking at Dodgy Dave and friends: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/04/12/jeremy-corbyns-3million-state-funded-salary-and-pension-revealed/ Interesting, I find labour's problems with anti-semitism far more distracting personally. " Most of these labour stories have been anti zionist not anti semitism | |||
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"Well of course...but The Telegraph have decided it's decent fodder in the war to make people stop looking at Dodgy Dave and friends: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/04/12/jeremy-corbyns-3million-state-funded-salary-and-pension-revealed/ Interesting, I find labour's problems with anti-semitism far more distracting personally. Most of these labour stories have been anti zionist not anti semitism" That's a distinction that people eager to spread the smears are not really interested in. | |||
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"I think the only financial irregularity that Corbyn has ever committed was to cash a postal order before he'd written the thank you letter. " | |||
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"Well of course...but The Telegraph have decided it's decent fodder in the war to make people stop looking at Dodgy Dave and friends: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/04/12/jeremy-corbyns-3million-state-funded-salary-and-pension-revealed/ Interesting, I find labour's problems with anti-semitism far more distracting personally. Most of these labour stories have been anti zionist not anti semitism That's a distinction that people eager to spread the smears are not really interested in." True, any critic of Israel is the next Hitler apparently. | |||
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"Well of course...but The Telegraph have decided it's decent fodder in the war to make people stop looking at Dodgy Dave and friends: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/04/12/jeremy-corbyns-3million-state-funded-salary-and-pension-revealed/ Interesting, I find labour's problems with anti-semitism far more distracting personally. Most of these labour stories have been anti zionist not anti semitism That's a distinction that people eager to spread the smears are not really interested in. True, any critic of Israel is the next Hitler apparently." The most recent labour councillor that was suspended said Hitler was a great man, no me mention of Zionism. The one a couple of months ago called Jews "Big noses" not the most horrendous insult but still no mention of Zionism. The Labour Party themselves are carrying out an investigation as to why it attracts anti Semites so to say there is not a problem is not really telling the truth. | |||
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"How can I become an mp and get lots of monies? " Seems the easiest way is to have parents who have lots of monies | |||
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"How can I become an mp and get lots of monies? " Won't be a popular answer this but here goes. You can be an MP by having an exceptional education (possibly paid for by your wealthy parents but not necessarily) and then being prepared to work 100 hours a week in a relentlessly stressful job in the sure and certain knowledge that you will be despised by the majority of people who pay your wages. Easy really. | |||
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"How can I become an mp and get lots of monies? Won't be a popular answer this but here goes. You can be an MP by having an exceptional education (possibly paid for by your wealthy parents but not necessarily) and then being prepared to work 100 hours a week in a relentlessly stressful job in the sure and certain knowledge that you will be despised by the majority of people who pay your wages. Easy really. " MPs educated. Hahahaha which ones are they? it fails to show in many policies! £150k to be PM is F all in the real world. MD's of big companies can earn multi million pound salaries. Indeed there are many civil servants earning way more than their "boss" We don't have the brightest and the best working in politics because they don't earn enough! Instead we are governed by those that love the sound of their own voice the most. | |||
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"Well of course...but The Telegraph have decided it's decent fodder in the war to make people stop looking at Dodgy Dave and friends: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/04/12/jeremy-corbyns-3million-state-funded-salary-and-pension-revealed/ Interesting, I find labour's problems with anti-semitism far more distracting personally. Most of these labour stories have been anti zionist not anti semitism That's a distinction that people eager to spread the smears are not really interested in. True, any critic of Israel is the next Hitler apparently. The most recent labour councillor that was suspended said Hitler was a great man, no me mention of Zionism. The one a couple of months ago called Jews "Big noses" not the most horrendous insult but still no mention of Zionism. The Labour Party themselves are carrying out an investigation as to why it attracts anti Semites so to say there is not a problem is not really telling the truth. " What is true to say is that it is a problem with two people who are members of the Labour party. What is absolutely not true, to the point that it is a purposeful lie, otherwise known as a smear, is to say that it is a problem with the Labour Party. Unless you also think that the Conservative party are all suspected rapists, as I pointed out above. And if you think that... | |||
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"Well of course...but The Telegraph have decided it's decent fodder in the war to make people stop looking at Dodgy Dave and friends: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/04/12/jeremy-corbyns-3million-state-funded-salary-and-pension-revealed/ Interesting, I find labour's problems with anti-semitism far more distracting personally. Most of these labour stories have been anti zionist not anti semitism That's a distinction that people eager to spread the smears are not really interested in. True, any critic of Israel is the next Hitler apparently. The most recent labour councillor that was suspended said Hitler was a great man, no me mention of Zionism. The one a couple of months ago called Jews "Big noses" not the most horrendous insult but still no mention of Zionism. The Labour Party themselves are carrying out an investigation as to why it attracts anti Semites so to say there is not a problem is not really telling the truth. What is true to say is that it is a problem with two people who are members of the Labour party. What is absolutely not true, to the point that it is a purposeful lie, otherwise known as a smear, is to say that it is a problem with the Labour Party. Unless you also think that the Conservative party are all suspected rapists, as I pointed out above. And if you think that... "I said the problem is labour seems to attract anti Semites. This is not a lie or a smear it is a fact. Otherwise why would labour activists be seeking a rule change to ban anti Semites ? And it is not just the two cases as mentioned. The Oxford uni labour group had been branded anti Semites, Corbyn was warned by a wealthy backer that big Jewish donors are refraining from making donations to Labour because of what they see as inaction and apathy in combatting the rising tide of anti-Semitism among party members. Michael Foster, whose family donated more than £400,000 in the 2015 General Election, said “Jeremy Corbyn continues to ignore the anti a Semitic problem – and that shocks me. He makes no attempt at all to put at ease a Jewish community in Britain that for more than 100 years has supported Labour spiritually, politically and financially.” | |||
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" The Labour Party themselves are carrying out an investigation as to why it attracts anti Semites so to say there is not a problem is not really telling the truth. " It's not difficult... The Labour leader has publicly shown support in the past for terrorists that hide behind Islam... You can't be a supporter of one and a friend of the other... | |||
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"Well of course...but The Telegraph have decided it's decent fodder in the war to make people stop looking at Dodgy Dave and friends: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/04/12/jeremy-corbyns-3million-state-funded-salary-and-pension-revealed/ Interesting, I find labour's problems with anti-semitism far more distracting personally. Most of these labour stories have been anti zionist not anti semitism That's a distinction that people eager to spread the smears are not really interested in. True, any critic of Israel is the next Hitler apparently. The most recent labour councillor that was suspended said Hitler was a great man, no me mention of Zionism. The one a couple of months ago called Jews "Big noses" not the most horrendous insult but still no mention of Zionism. The Labour Party themselves are carrying out an investigation as to why it attracts anti Semites so to say there is not a problem is not really telling the truth. " . Hitler had great qualities in aspects and Monty python did the big nose joke in the 70s it's just context really that matters | |||
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" It's not difficult... The Labour leader has publicly shown support in the past for terrorists that hide behind Islam... You can't be a supporter of one and a friend of the other... " Though again, he could say he was standing up for the millions of Palestinians who were made homeless in 1967, who have largely been forgotten in the west, and whose plight, it could be said, has been behind much of the terrorism since. In standing up for them, he is on the side of International Law. | |||
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" The Labour Party themselves are carrying out an investigation as to why it attracts anti Semites so to say there is not a problem is not really telling the truth. It's not difficult... The Labour leader has publicly shown support in the past for terrorists that hide behind Islam... You can't be a supporter of one and a friend of the other... " He is aligned to the group that compared the Paris terrorists to the anti fascists who fought Franco. He hasn't distanced himself from them since this remark. | |||
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" Monty python did the big nose joke in the 70s it's just context really that matters" | |||
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"Well of course...but The Telegraph have decided it's decent fodder in the war to make people stop looking at Dodgy Dave and friends: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/04/12/jeremy-corbyns-3million-state-funded-salary-and-pension-revealed/ Interesting, I find labour's problems with anti-semitism far more distracting personally. Most of these labour stories have been anti zionist not anti semitism That's a distinction that people eager to spread the smears are not really interested in. True, any critic of Israel is the next Hitler apparently. The most recent labour councillor that was suspended said Hitler was a great man, no me mention of Zionism. The one a couple of months ago called Jews "Big noses" not the most horrendous insult but still no mention of Zionism. The Labour Party themselves are carrying out an investigation as to why it attracts anti Semites so to say there is not a problem is not really telling the truth. . Hitler had great qualities in aspects and Monty python did the big nose joke in the 70s it's just context really that matters" I think you are somewhat missing the point. The labour councillor who said hitler was a great a man was referring to the extermination of Jews not his ability to cut the employment rate in Germany. | |||
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" It's not difficult... The Labour leader has publicly shown support in the past for terrorists that hide behind Islam... You can't be a supporter of one and a friend of the other... Though again, he could say he was standing up for the millions of Palestinians who were made homeless in 1967, who have largely been forgotten in the west, and whose plight, it could be said, has been behind much of the terrorism since. In standing up for them, he is on the side of International Law." Still he is supporting a side that is anti Zionist, so it's not a surprise then that his party is attracting like minded people... | |||
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" It's not difficult... The Labour leader has publicly shown support in the past for terrorists that hide behind Islam... You can't be a supporter of one and a friend of the other... Though again, he could say he was standing up for the millions of Palestinians who were made homeless in 1967, who have largely been forgotten in the west, and whose plight, it could be said, has been behind much of the terrorism since. In standing up for them, he is on the side of International Law." You should not confuse anti semitism with support for Palestine. Anti Semitic attacks are on the rise in England & Europe, in fact they are occurring at a higher rate than before the war. This cannot entirely be attributed the the Palestinian problem. The anti Zionist movement attracts many extreme right wing activists who see this as a legitimate outlet for their anti Semitic views. | |||
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" It's not difficult... The Labour leader has publicly shown support in the past for terrorists that hide behind Islam... You can't be a supporter of one and a friend of the other... Though again, he could say he was standing up for the millions of Palestinians who were made homeless in 1967, who have largely been forgotten in the west, and whose plight, it could be said, has been behind much of the terrorism since. In standing up for them, he is on the side of International Law." . I'm no fan of religion and leaving the Jewish aspect to one side. If calling out the state of Israel (which has representation at the highest level in UK government) for its woeful treatment and attitude to Palestinians and Gazans and to its implicit efforts to block a two state solution, while committing genocidal effort to fuck the other lot off... If this Is now anti-Semitic, well it just goes to show how regressive the left have got!. | |||
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" You should not confuse anti semitism with support for Palestine. " I don't. I simply ask that the other side sees the converse. Many of the stories I have read have been simply linked to the boycott movement, especially on universities. Many papers are then trying to link this as an anti-Corbyn narrative. Any act of violence is to be abhorred, I've never been convinced about the theory of race or religion being brought into stuff, you risk the converse that it is somehow more acceptable for a white taxi-driver to rape a white girl. (A ref to Rotherham, not a slur on your own good self) | |||
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" You should not confuse anti semitism with support for Palestine. I don't. I simply ask that the other side sees the converse. Many of the stories I have read have been simply linked to the boycott movement, especially on universities. Many papers are then trying to link this as an anti-Corbyn narrative. Any act of violence is to be abhorred, I've never been convinced about the theory of race or religion being brought into stuff, you risk the converse that it is somehow more acceptable for a white taxi-driver to rape a white girl. (A ref to Rotherham, not a slur on your own good self)" You had me shaking my fist with rage , then I finished reading your post. The anti semitism that exists in the Labour Party isn't entirely to do with the Palestinian people's plight. But for Corbyn to ignore it because of his support for Palestine is , I think, a massive mistake. | |||
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"Or at least that's what The Telegraph are claiming it is, if you add it up for each of the 33 years he's been an MP, and were to try to buy a private pension based on an MP's pension scheme on top. It's official: If you read The Telegraph, they genuinely think you are an idiot! "aren't we all earning £2 or £3 million over a lifetime, nothing wrong with that, especially when we pay 40% tax | |||
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"Well of course...but The Telegraph have decided it's decent fodder in the war to make people stop looking at Dodgy Dave and friends: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/04/12/jeremy-corbyns-3million-state-funded-salary-and-pension-revealed/ Interesting, I find labour's problems with anti-semitism far more distracting personally. Most of these labour stories have been anti zionist not anti semitism That's a distinction that people eager to spread the smears are not really interested in. True, any critic of Israel is the next Hitler apparently. The most recent labour councillor that was suspended said Hitler was a great man, no me mention of Zionism. The one a couple of months ago called Jews "Big noses" not the most horrendous insult but still no mention of Zionism. The Labour Party themselves are carrying out an investigation as to why it attracts anti Semites so to say there is not a problem is not really telling the truth. What is true to say is that it is a problem with two people who are members of the Labour party. What is absolutely not true, to the point that it is a purposeful lie, otherwise known as a smear, is to say that it is a problem with the Labour Party. Unless you also think that the Conservative party are all suspected rapists, as I pointed out above. And if you think that...
I said the problem is labour seems to attract anti Semites. This is not a lie or a smear it is a fact.
Otherwise why would labour activists be seeking a rule change to ban anti Semites ?
And it is not just the two cases as mentioned. The Oxford uni labour group had been branded anti Semites,
Corbyn was warned by a wealthy backer that big Jewish donors are refraining from making donations to Labour because of what they see as inaction and apathy in combatting the rising tide of anti-Semitism among party members.
Michael Foster, whose family donated more than £400,000 in the 2015 General Election, said “Jeremy Corbyn continues to ignore the anti a
Semitic problem – and that shocks me. He makes no attempt at all to put at ease a Jewish community in Britain that for more than 100 years has supported Labour spiritually, politically and financially.”"What you say as 'seems', I say as 'reported'. The story is frankly bollocks, there are far more racists of every stripe attracted to the Conservative party, because it is traditionally the party of racism in the UK. I won't waste either of our time linking to every story involving a Conservative being a racist, as we both know it's self-evident. | |||
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" You had me shaking my fist with rage , then I finished reading your post. " Thank you
I just think the extremists on both sides try to blow things up out of all proportion, then the truely bad things, like the desecration of Jewish graves, or street attacks, tend to get watered down by all the 'non-stories' and somehow devalued, which isn't right. | |||
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" The anti semitism that exists in the Labour Party isn't entirely to do with the Palestinian people's plight. But for Corbyn to ignore it because of his support for Palestine is , I think, a massive mistake. " . Go on spit it out.... Just why do you think this rabid anti-Semitism you proclaim exists in the labour party?... | |||
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"Well of course...but The Telegraph have decided it's decent fodder in the war to make people stop looking at Dodgy Dave and friends: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/04/12/jeremy-corbyns-3million-state-funded-salary-and-pension-revealed/ Interesting, I find labour's problems with anti-semitism far more distracting personally. Most of these labour stories have been anti zionist not anti semitism That's a distinction that people eager to spread the smears are not really interested in. True, any critic of Israel is the next Hitler apparently. The most recent labour councillor that was suspended said Hitler was a great man, no me mention of Zionism. The one a couple of months ago called Jews "Big noses" not the most horrendous insult but still no mention of Zionism. The Labour Party themselves are carrying out an investigation as to why it attracts anti Semites so to say there is not a problem is not really telling the truth. What is true to say is that it is a problem with two people who are members of the Labour party. What is absolutely not true, to the point that it is a purposeful lie, otherwise known as a smear, is to say that it is a problem with the Labour Party. Unless you also think that the Conservative party are all suspected rapists, as I pointed out above. And if you think that...
I said the problem is labour seems to attract anti Semites. This is not a lie or a smear it is a fact.
Otherwise why would labour activists be seeking a rule change to ban anti Semites ?
And it is not just the two cases as mentioned. The Oxford uni labour group had been branded anti Semites,
Corbyn was warned by a wealthy backer that big Jewish donors are refraining from making donations to Labour because of what they see as inaction and apathy in combatting the rising tide of anti-Semitism among party members.
Michael Foster, whose family donated more than £400,000 in the 2015 General Election, said “Jeremy Corbyn continues to ignore the anti a
Semitic problem – and that shocks me. He makes no attempt at all to put at ease a Jewish community in Britain that for more than 100 years has supported Labour spiritually, politically and financially.”
What you say as 'seems', I say as 'reported'.
The story is frankly bollocks, there are far more racists of every stripe attracted to the Conservative party, because it is traditionally the party of racism in the UK.
I won't waste either of our time linking to every story involving a Conservative being a racist, as we both know it's self-evident."The story is not bollocks, it is very real and is of great concern to the many Jewish backers and supporters of the Labour Party. You seem to confuse any criticism of Corbyn as support for the Tories. Why with any mention of Corbyn do you retort "conservative this, conservative that" ? Are we to ignore the wrongs of one side simply because you deem the wrongs of another greater ? | |||
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"Well of course...but The Telegraph have decided it's decent fodder in the war to make people stop looking at Dodgy Dave and friends: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/04/12/jeremy-corbyns-3million-state-funded-salary-and-pension-revealed/ Interesting, I find labour's problems with anti-semitism far more distracting personally. Most of these labour stories have been anti zionist not anti semitism That's a distinction that people eager to spread the smears are not really interested in. True, any critic of Israel is the next Hitler apparently. The most recent labour councillor that was suspended said Hitler was a great man, no me mention of Zionism. The one a couple of months ago called Jews "Big noses" not the most horrendous insult but still no mention of Zionism. The Labour Party themselves are carrying out an investigation as to why it attracts anti Semites so to say there is not a problem is not really telling the truth. What is true to say is that it is a problem with two people who are members of the Labour party. What is absolutely not true, to the point that it is a purposeful lie, otherwise known as a smear, is to say that it is a problem with the Labour Party. Unless you also think that the Conservative party are all suspected rapists, as I pointed out above. And if you think that...
I said the problem is labour seems to attract anti Semites. This is not a lie or a smear it is a fact.
Otherwise why would labour activists be seeking a rule change to ban anti Semites ?
And it is not just the two cases as mentioned. The Oxford uni labour group had been branded anti Semites,
Corbyn was warned by a wealthy backer that big Jewish donors are refraining from making donations to Labour because of what they see as inaction and apathy in combatting the rising tide of anti-Semitism among party members.
Michael Foster, whose family donated more than £400,000 in the 2015 General Election, said “Jeremy Corbyn continues to ignore the anti a
Semitic problem – and that shocks me. He makes no attempt at all to put at ease a Jewish community in Britain that for more than 100 years has supported Labour spiritually, politically and financially.”
What you say as 'seems', I say as 'reported'.
The story is frankly bollocks, there are far more racists of every stripe attracted to the Conservative party, because it is traditionally the party of racism in the UK.
I won't waste either of our time linking to every story involving a Conservative being a racist, as we both know it's self-evident.
The story is not bollocks, it is very real and is of great concern to the many Jewish backers and supporters of the Labour Party.
You seem to confuse any criticism of Corbyn as support for the Tories.
Why with any mention of Corbyn do you retort "conservative this, conservative that" ?
Are we to ignore the wrongs of one side simply because you deem the wrongs of another greater ?". No but then your not exactly unbiased yourself. Awhile back the Tories had to fuck off Patrick mercer for his "bloody Jew remark", mind you he also called a colleague " a crook of the first order ". | |||
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" The anti semitism that exists in the Labour Party isn't entirely to do with the Palestinian people's plight. But for Corbyn to ignore it because of his support for Palestine is , I think, a massive mistake. . Go on spit it out.... Just why do you think this rabid anti-Semitism you proclaim exists in the labour party?..." There is nothing to spit out. There is an ongoing investigation as to why labour attracts such people. Labour activists are seeking a rule change to eject and ban these people. Jewish backers and supporters are leaving the party. But it's the extreme lefts alignment to the Palestinian groups that attract the extreme anti Semites and at the moment the Labour Party seems to be the outlet for their views. These people have little interest in Palestine or probably the Labour Party, they just need a platform to spout their vile views and the Labour Party are giving them that platform as Corbyn is apathetic to it. | |||
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" The anti semitism that exists in the Labour Party isn't entirely to do with the Palestinian people's plight. But for Corbyn to ignore it because of his support for Palestine is , I think, a massive mistake. . Go on spit it out.... Just why do you think this rabid anti-Semitism you proclaim exists in the labour party?... There is nothing to spit out. There is an ongoing investigation as to why labour attracts such people. Labour activists are seeking a rule change to eject and ban these people. Jewish backers and supporters are leaving the party. But it's the extreme lefts alignment to the Palestinian groups that attract the extreme anti Semites and at the moment the Labour Party seems to be the outlet for their views. These people have little interest in Palestine or probably the Labour Party, they just need a platform to spout their vile views and the Labour Party are giving them that platform as Corbyn is apathetic to it. " . That's not what you said?. You said "it isn't entirely to do with the Palestinians plight" and you keep insisting, it's only the "far left"(despite me posting about the Tory Patrick mercer).... So come on spit it out, why do think it's a far left anti-Semite conspiracy!! | |||
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" The anti semitism that exists in the Labour Party isn't entirely to do with the Palestinian people's plight. But for Corbyn to ignore it because of his support for Palestine is , I think, a massive mistake. . Go on spit it out.... Just why do you think this rabid anti-Semitism you proclaim exists in the labour party?... There is nothing to spit out. There is an ongoing investigation as to why labour attracts such people. Labour activists are seeking a rule change to eject and ban these people. Jewish backers and supporters are leaving the party. But it's the extreme lefts alignment to the Palestinian groups that attract the extreme anti Semites and at the moment the Labour Party seems to be the outlet for their views. These people have little interest in Palestine or probably the Labour Party, they just need a platform to spout their vile views and the Labour Party are giving them that platform as Corbyn is apathetic to it. . That's not what you said?. You said "it isn't entirely to do with the Palestinians plight" and you keep insisting, it's only the "far left"(despite me posting about the Tory Patrick mercer).... So come on spit it out, why do think it's a far left anti-Semite conspiracy!!" You seem confused. Where have I "insisted" that it is only a far left problem. And where have I said that it is not a problem in today's society. I have pointed out the rise of anti Semitism in Europe and England and said it is the labour party's acomodation of these people that is a problem for them. By pointing out the conservative with these views you fall into the trap of believing that if people say labour = bad that you automatically think they mean Tory= Good. Mercer was rightly condemned for his anti Semitic outbursts. By you pointing him out doesn't automatically absolve labour of any wrong doing. It isn't a tit for tat argument. Anti Semitism is wrong no matter what side of the house you sit on. | |||
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"Can I just point something out. You said Jewish, not Israeli backers and supporters are pulling out from labour!. " Yes, I know what I said. | |||
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"Well of course...but The Telegraph have decided it's decent fodder in the war to make people stop looking at Dodgy Dave and friends: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/04/12/jeremy-corbyns-3million-state-funded-salary-and-pension-revealed/ Interesting, I find labour's problems with anti-semitism far more distracting personally. Most of these labour stories have been anti zionist not anti semitism That's a distinction that people eager to spread the smears are not really interested in. True, any critic of Israel is the next Hitler apparently. The most recent labour councillor that was suspended said Hitler was a great man, no me mention of Zionism. The one a couple of months ago called Jews "Big noses" not the most horrendous insult but still no mention of Zionism. The Labour Party themselves are carrying out an investigation as to why it attracts anti Semites so to say there is not a problem is not really telling the truth. What is true to say is that it is a problem with two people who are members of the Labour party. What is absolutely not true, to the point that it is a purposeful lie, otherwise known as a smear, is to say that it is a problem with the Labour Party. Unless you also think that the Conservative party are all suspected rapists, as I pointed out above. And if you think that...
I said the problem is labour seems to attract anti Semites. This is not a lie or a smear it is a fact.
Otherwise why would labour activists be seeking a rule change to ban anti Semites ?
And it is not just the two cases as mentioned. The Oxford uni labour group had been branded anti Semites,
Corbyn was warned by a wealthy backer that big Jewish donors are refraining from making donations to Labour because of what they see as inaction and apathy in combatting the rising tide of anti-Semitism among party members.
Michael Foster, whose family donated more than £400,000 in the 2015 General Election, said “Jeremy Corbyn continues to ignore the anti a
Semitic problem – and that shocks me. He makes no attempt at all to put at ease a Jewish community in Britain that for more than 100 years has supported Labour spiritually, politically and financially.”
What you say as 'seems', I say as 'reported'.
The story is frankly bollocks, there are far more racists of every stripe attracted to the Conservative party, because it is traditionally the party of racism in the UK.
I won't waste either of our time linking to every story involving a Conservative being a racist, as we both know it's self-evident.
The story is not bollocks, it is very real and is of great concern to the many Jewish backers and supporters of the Labour Party.
You seem to confuse any criticism of Corbyn as support for the Tories.
Why with any mention of Corbyn do you retort "conservative this, conservative that" ?
Are we to ignore the wrongs of one side simply because you deem the wrongs of another greater ?"It's called cognitive dissonance and they are full of it. They can't handle any criticism of labour. Thanks for handing them their ass in this debate, it was great fun to read.  | |||
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"How can I become an mp and get lots of monies? Won't be a popular answer this but here goes. You can be an MP by having an exceptional education (possibly paid for by your wealthy parents but not necessarily) and then being prepared to work 100 hours a week in a relentlessly stressful job in the sure and certain knowledge that you will be despised by the majority of people who pay your wages. Easy really. " Eduction yes, but no work experience needed!! If sitting around talking qualifies as work then yes they work for 100 hours a week but that's not exactly the same as standing at the front of a classroom for 100 hours or banging out steel for 100 hours! | |||
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"Can I just point something out. You said Jewish, not Israeli backers and supporters are pulling out from labour!. Yes, I know what I said. " . Not Israeli, now you see I started the point that the "far left" rightly call out Israel for its ridiculously punitive retaliationary strikes, they call out Israel for its abhorrent treatment of Muslim Palestinians, gazans and Muslim Israeli citizens, Gaza is for all purposes a friggin concentration camp, kept with no water, food, electricity or medicine.... And when you mention this problem the Zionists throw... Anti-Semitite at you, even you yourself said "Jewish people" are removing their backing!. Why Jewish and not Israeli?. Let's face reality the Israelis don't wish to give that land back, they don't want Muslim citizens and they do everything in their power to make it happen without appearing like a bunch of cunts and worse still that attitude is almost always supported by "Jews" who've never been to Israel or were born in faraway places. You could say there's a good resemblance to "isis supporters" who are almost always born outside of the caliphate and "Irish catholics" in America who just buy into this religious bollocks!. . . The weird bit of it all is, there's more two state "Jewish" supporters in Israel than outside of it... I'm about as far left as you get, I hang around with far left people, I've got a friend who was on Marmara, I'm a staunch atheist and I've never met a "Jew hater". Quite frankly I think if you look further right wing, you'll find plenty to keep you concerned | |||
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"That's bullshit, the PM salary is 150,000" Really? The Chief Exec of the NHS Trust I work for was on £245,000 three years ago and that's definitely a matter of public record...surely the PM earns more than he does? Our Chief Exec was the 4th highest paid at the time... | |||
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"The most paied one is tony blair Annual: GBP 12,290,185.00 Monthly: GBP 1,024,182.00 Weekly: GBP 236,350.00 Daily: GBP 33,672.00 " Worth every penny | |||
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"Well of course...but The Telegraph have decided it's decent fodder in the war to make people stop looking at Dodgy Dave and friends: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/04/12/jeremy-corbyns-3million-state-funded-salary-and-pension-revealed/ Interesting, I find labour's problems with anti-semitism far more distracting personally. Most of these labour stories have been anti zionist not anti semitism That's a distinction that people eager to spread the smears are not really interested in. True, any critic of Israel is the next Hitler apparently. The most recent labour councillor that was suspended said Hitler was a great man, no me mention of Zionism. The one a couple of months ago called Jews "Big noses" not the most horrendous insult but still no mention of Zionism. The Labour Party themselves are carrying out an investigation as to why it attracts anti Semites so to say there is not a problem is not really telling the truth. What is true to say is that it is a problem with two people who are members of the Labour party. What is absolutely not true, to the point that it is a purposeful lie, otherwise known as a smear, is to say that it is a problem with the Labour Party. Unless you also think that the Conservative party are all suspected rapists, as I pointed out above. And if you think that...
I said the problem is labour seems to attract anti Semites. This is not a lie or a smear it is a fact.
Otherwise why would labour activists be seeking a rule change to ban anti Semites ?
And it is not just the two cases as mentioned. The Oxford uni labour group had been branded anti Semites,
Corbyn was warned by a wealthy backer that big Jewish donors are refraining from making donations to Labour because of what they see as inaction and apathy in combatting the rising tide of anti-Semitism among party members.
Michael Foster, whose family donated more than £400,000 in the 2015 General Election, said “Jeremy Corbyn continues to ignore the anti a
Semitic problem – and that shocks me. He makes no attempt at all to put at ease a Jewish community in Britain that for more than 100 years has supported Labour spiritually, politically and financially.”
What you say as 'seems', I say as 'reported'.
The story is frankly bollocks, there are far more racists of every stripe attracted to the Conservative party, because it is traditionally the party of racism in the UK.
I won't waste either of our time linking to every story involving a Conservative being a racist, as we both know it's self-evident.
The story is not bollocks, it is very real and is of great concern to the many Jewish backers and supporters of the Labour Party.
You seem to confuse any criticism of Corbyn as support for the Tories.
Why with any mention of Corbyn do you retort "conservative this, conservative that" ?
Are we to ignore the wrongs of one side simply because you deem the wrongs of another greater ?
It's called cognitive dissonance and they are full of it. They can't handle any criticism of labour. Thanks for handing them their ass in this debate, it was great fun to read.
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Now that really is cognitive dissonance, seeing as the only people in the thread who have had there asses handed to them are the smearers who keep trying and failing to paint Labour as anti-Semites!
As pointed out above, it's the right-wing of British politics who need to be concerned with racism, not the left. And it's very telling indeed that the right wing of British politics seem to have ignored the issue of racism "Well of course...but The Telegraph have decided it's decent fodder in the war to make people stop looking at Dodgy Dave and friends: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/04/12/jeremy-corbyns-3million-state-funded-salary-and-pension-revealed/ Interesting, I find labour's problems with anti-semitism far more distracting personally. Most of these labour stories have been anti zionist not anti semitism That's a distinction that people eager to spread the smears are not really interested in. True, any critic of Israel is the next Hitler apparently. The most recent labour councillor that was suspended said Hitler was a great man, no me mention of Zionism. The one a couple of months ago called Jews "Big noses" not the most horrendous insult but still no mention of Zionism. The Labour Party themselves are carrying out an investigation as to why it attracts anti Semites so to say there is not a problem is not really telling the truth. What is true to say is that it is a problem with two people who are members of the Labour party. What is absolutely not true, to the point that it is a purposeful lie, otherwise known as a smear, is to say that it is a problem with the Labour Party. Unless you also think that the Conservative party are all suspected rapists, as I pointed out above. And if you think that...
I said the problem is labour seems to attract anti Semites. This is not a lie or a smear it is a fact.
Otherwise why would labour activists be seeking a rule change to ban anti Semites ?
And it is not just the two cases as mentioned. The Oxford uni labour group had been branded anti Semites,
Corbyn was warned by a wealthy backer that big Jewish donors are refraining from making donations to Labour because of what they see as inaction and apathy in combatting the rising tide of anti-Semitism among party members.
Michael Foster, whose family donated more than £400,000 in the 2015 General Election, said “Jeremy Corbyn continues to ignore the anti a
Semitic problem – and that shocks me. He makes no attempt at all to put at ease a Jewish community in Britain that for more than 100 years has supported Labour spiritually, politically and financially.”
What you say as 'seems', I say as 'reported'.
The story is frankly bollocks, there are far more racists of every stripe attracted to the Conservative party, because it is traditionally the party of racism in the UK.
I won't waste either of our time linking to every story involving a Conservative being a racist, as we both know it's self-evident.
The story is not bollocks, it is very real and is of great concern to the many Jewish backers and supporters of the Labour Party.
You seem to confuse any criticism of Corbyn as support for the Tories.
Why with any mention of Corbyn do you retort "conservative this, conservative that" ?
Are we to ignore the wrongs of one side simply because you deem the wrongs of another greater ?
It's called cognitive dissonance and they are full of it. They can't handle any criticism of labour. Thanks for handing them their ass in this debate, it was great fun to read.
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Now that really is cognitive dissonance, seeing as the only people in the thread who have had there asses handed to them are the smearers who keep trying and failing to paint Labour as anti-Semites!
As pointed out above, it's the right-wing of British politics who need to be concerned with racism, not the left. And it's very telling indeed that the right wing of British politics seem to have ignored the issue of racism completely, despite the Conservative party being rife with it, until they were able to desperately seize upon two inconsequential people amongst a Labour party of hundreds of thousands.
It's funny how people never seem interested in talking about anti-semitism in a thread of its own, but are very keen indeed to bring it up in any discussions pertaining to the dodgy financial dealings of the Tories and the press coverage associated with it.
Almost as if they wish people would change the subject...I wonder why! | |||
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"The most paied one is tony blair Annual: GBP 12,290,185.00 Monthly: GBP 1,024,182.00 Weekly: GBP 236,350.00 Daily: GBP 33,672.00 Worth every penny "Yes, he is the best one | |||
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"Well of course...but The Telegraph have decided it's decent fodder in the war to make people stop looking at Dodgy Dave and friends: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/04/12/jeremy-corbyns-3million-state-funded-salary-and-pension-revealed/ Interesting, I find labour's problems with anti-semitism far more distracting personally. Most of these labour stories have been anti zionist not anti semitism That's a distinction that people eager to spread the smears are not really interested in. True, any critic of Israel is the next Hitler apparently. The most recent labour councillor that was suspended said Hitler was a great man, no me mention of Zionism. The one a couple of months ago called Jews "Big noses" not the most horrendous insult but still no mention of Zionism. The Labour Party themselves are carrying out an investigation as to why it attracts anti Semites so to say there is not a problem is not really telling the truth. What is true to say is that it is a problem with two people who are members of the Labour party. What is absolutely not true, to the point that it is a purposeful lie, otherwise known as a smear, is to say that it is a problem with the Labour Party. Unless you also think that the Conservative party are all suspected rapists, as I pointed out above. And if you think that...
I said the problem is labour seems to attract anti Semites. This is not a lie or a smear it is a fact.
Otherwise why would labour activists be seeking a rule change to ban anti Semites ?
And it is not just the two cases as mentioned. The Oxford uni labour group had been branded anti Semites,
Corbyn was warned by a wealthy backer that big Jewish donors are refraining from making donations to Labour because of what they see as inaction and apathy in combatting the rising tide of anti-Semitism among party members.
Michael Foster, whose family donated more than £400,000 in the 2015 General Election, said “Jeremy Corbyn continues to ignore the anti a
Semitic problem – and that shocks me. He makes no attempt at all to put at ease a Jewish community in Britain that for more than 100 years has supported Labour spiritually, politically and financially.”
What you say as 'seems', I say as 'reported'.
The story is frankly bollocks, there are far more racists of every stripe attracted to the Conservative party, because it is traditionally the party of racism in the UK.
I won't waste either of our time linking to every story involving a Conservative being a racist, as we both know it's self-evident.
The story is not bollocks, it is very real and is of great concern to the many Jewish backers and supporters of the Labour Party.
You seem to confuse any criticism of Corbyn as support for the Tories.
Why with any mention of Corbyn do you retort "conservative this, conservative that" ?
Are we to ignore the wrongs of one side simply because you deem the wrongs of another greater ?
It's called cognitive dissonance and they are full of it. They can't handle any criticism of labour. Thanks for handing them their ass in this debate, it was great fun to read.
Now that really is cognitive dissonance, seeing as the only people in the thread who have had there asses handed to them are the smearers who keep trying and failing to paint Labour as anti-Semites!
As pointed out above, it's the right-wing of British politics who need to be concerned with racism, not the left. And it's very telling indeed that the right wing of British politics seem to have ignored the issue of racism Well of course...but The Telegraph have decided it's decent fodder in the war to make people stop looking at Dodgy Dave and friends:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/04/12/jeremy-corbyns-3million-state-funded-salary-and-pension-revealed/
Interesting, I find labour's problems with anti-semitism far more distracting personally.
Most of these labour stories have been anti zionist not anti semitism
That's a distinction that people eager to spread the smears are not really interested in.
True, any critic of Israel is the next Hitler apparently.
The most recent labour councillor that was suspended said Hitler was a great man, no me mention of Zionism.
The one a couple of months ago called Jews "Big noses" not the most horrendous insult but still no mention of Zionism.
The Labour Party themselves are carrying out an investigation as to why it attracts anti Semites so to say there is not a problem is not really telling the truth.
What is true to say is that it is a problem with two people who are members of the Labour party.
What is absolutely not true, to the point that it is a purposeful lie, otherwise known as a smear, is to say that it is a problem with the Labour Party.
Unless you also think that the Conservative party are all suspected rapists, as I pointed out above. And if you think that...
I said the problem is labour seems to attract anti Semites. This is not a lie or a smear it is a fact.
Otherwise why would labour activists be seeking a rule change to ban anti Semites ?
And it is not just the two cases as mentioned. The Oxford uni labour group had been branded anti Semites,
Corbyn was warned by a wealthy backer that big Jewish donors are refraining from making donations to Labour because of what they see as inaction and apathy in combatting the rising tide of anti-Semitism among party members.
Michael Foster, whose family donated more than £400,000 in the 2015 General Election, said “Jeremy Corbyn continues to ignore the anti a
Semitic problem – and that shocks me. He makes no attempt at all to put at ease a Jewish community in Britain that for more than 100 years has supported Labour spiritually, politically and financially.”
What you say as 'seems', I say as 'reported'.
The story is frankly bollocks, there are far more racists of every stripe attracted to the Conservative party, because it is traditionally the party of racism in the UK.
I won't waste either of our time linking to every story involving a Conservative being a racist, as we both know it's self-evident.
The story is not bollocks, it is very real and is of great concern to the many Jewish backers and supporters of the Labour Party.
You seem to confuse any criticism of Corbyn as support for the Tories.
Why with any mention of Corbyn do you retort "conservative this, conservative that" ?
Are we to ignore the wrongs of one side simply because you deem the wrongs of another greater ?
It's called cognitive dissonance and they are full of it. They can't handle any criticism of labour. Thanks for handing them their ass in this debate, it was great fun to read.
Now that really is cognitive dissonance, seeing as the only people in the thread who have had there asses handed to them are the smearers who keep trying and failing to paint Labour as anti-Semites!
As pointed out above, it's the right-wing of British politics who need to be concerned with racism, not the left. And it's very telling indeed that the right wing of British politics seem to have ignored the issue of racism completely, despite the Conservative party being rife with it, until they were able to desperately seize upon two inconsequential people amongst a Labour party of hundreds of thousands.
It's funny how people never seem interested in talking about anti-semitism in a thread of its own, but are very keen indeed to bring it up in any discussions pertaining to the dodgy financial dealings of the Tories and the press coverage associated with it.
Almost as if they wish people would change the subject...I wonder why! "Yet again you have fallen into the well worn track of deflecting any criticism of your chosen one onto something that bares no resemblance to the discussion. You seem keen to deflect any mention of anti semitism by saying "it's ok because the Tories are more racist" It's not a competition , racism is racism. The Labour Party are suffering at the moment because of their appeal from anti Semites , to ignore this and deflect it is abhorrent. You are either so blind that you'll support Corbyn through anything , or you are , as I suspect , one of the many anti Semites that attach themselves to this party because it suits your racist agenda. | |||
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"How can I become an mp and get lots of monies? " Run for parliament as an independent on a manifesto of "I'm an ordinary poor person"? | |||
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"Well of course...but The Telegraph have decided it's decent fodder in the war to make people stop looking at Dodgy Dave and friends: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/04/12/jeremy-corbyns-3million-state-funded-salary-and-pension-revealed/ Interesting, I find labour's problems with anti-semitism far more distracting personally. Most of these labour stories have been anti zionist not anti semitism That's a distinction that people eager to spread the smears are not really interested in. True, any critic of Israel is the next Hitler apparently. The most recent labour councillor that was suspended said Hitler was a great man, no me mention of Zionism. The one a couple of months ago called Jews "Big noses" not the most horrendous insult but still no mention of Zionism. The Labour Party themselves are carrying out an investigation as to why it attracts anti Semites so to say there is not a problem is not really telling the truth. What is true to say is that it is a problem with two people who are members of the Labour party. What is absolutely not true, to the point that it is a purposeful lie, otherwise known as a smear, is to say that it is a problem with the Labour Party. Unless you also think that the Conservative party are all suspected rapists, as I pointed out above. And if you think that...
I said the problem is labour seems to attract anti Semites. This is not a lie or a smear it is a fact.
Otherwise why would labour activists be seeking a rule change to ban anti Semites ?
And it is not just the two cases as mentioned. The Oxford uni labour group had been branded anti Semites,
Corbyn was warned by a wealthy backer that big Jewish donors are refraining from making donations to Labour because of what they see as inaction and apathy in combatting the rising tide of anti-Semitism among party members.
Michael Foster, whose family donated more than £400,000 in the 2015 General Election, said “Jeremy Corbyn continues to ignore the anti a
Semitic problem – and that shocks me. He makes no attempt at all to put at ease a Jewish community in Britain that for more than 100 years has supported Labour spiritually, politically and financially.”
What you say as 'seems', I say as 'reported'.
The story is frankly bollocks, there are far more racists of every stripe attracted to the Conservative party, because it is traditionally the party of racism in the UK.
I won't waste either of our time linking to every story involving a Conservative being a racist, as we both know it's self-evident.
The story is not bollocks, it is very real and is of great concern to the many Jewish backers and supporters of the Labour Party.
You seem to confuse any criticism of Corbyn as support for the Tories.
Why with any mention of Corbyn do you retort "conservative this, conservative that" ?
Are we to ignore the wrongs of one side simply because you deem the wrongs of another greater ?
It's called cognitive dissonance and they are full of it. They can't handle any criticism of labour. Thanks for handing them their ass in this debate, it was great fun to read.
Now that really is cognitive dissonance, seeing as the only people in the thread who have had there asses handed to them are the smearers who keep trying and failing to paint Labour as anti-Semites!
As pointed out above, it's the right-wing of British politics who need to be concerned with racism, not the left. And it's very telling indeed that the right wing of British politics seem to have ignored the issue of racism Well of course...but The Telegraph have decided it's decent fodder in the war to make people stop looking at Dodgy Dave and friends:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/04/12/jeremy-corbyns-3million-state-funded-salary-and-pension-revealed/
Interesting, I find labour's problems with anti-semitism far more distracting personally.
Most of these labour stories have been anti zionist not anti semitism
That's a distinction that people eager to spread the smears are not really interested in.
True, any critic of Israel is the next Hitler apparently.
The most recent labour councillor that was suspended said Hitler was a great man, no me mention of Zionism.
The one a couple of months ago called Jews "Big noses" not the most horrendous insult but still no mention of Zionism.
The Labour Party themselves are carrying out an investigation as to why it attracts anti Semites so to say there is not a problem is not really telling the truth.
What is true to say is that it is a problem with two people who are members of the Labour party.
What is absolutely not true, to the point that it is a purposeful lie, otherwise known as a smear, is to say that it is a problem with the Labour Party.
Unless you also think that the Conservative party are all suspected rapists, as I pointed out above. And if you think that...
I said the problem is labour seems to attract anti Semites. This is not a lie or a smear it is a fact.
Otherwise why would labour activists be seeking a rule change to ban anti Semites ?
And it is not just the two cases as mentioned. The Oxford uni labour group had been branded anti Semites,
Corbyn was warned by a wealthy backer that big Jewish donors are refraining from making donations to Labour because of what they see as inaction and apathy in combatting the rising tide of anti-Semitism among party members.
Michael Foster, whose family donated more than £400,000 in the 2015 General Election, said “Jeremy Corbyn continues to ignore the anti a
Semitic problem – and that shocks me. He makes no attempt at all to put at ease a Jewish community in Britain that for more than 100 years has supported Labour spiritually, politically and financially.”
What you say as 'seems', I say as 'reported'.
The story is frankly bollocks, there are far more racists of every stripe attracted to the Conservative party, because it is traditionally the party of racism in the UK.
I won't waste either of our time linking to every story involving a Conservative being a racist, as we both know it's self-evident.
The story is not bollocks, it is very real and is of great concern to the many Jewish backers and supporters of the Labour Party.
You seem to confuse any criticism of Corbyn as support for the Tories.
Why with any mention of Corbyn do you retort "conservative this, conservative that" ?
Are we to ignore the wrongs of one side simply because you deem the wrongs of another greater ?
It's called cognitive dissonance and they are full of it. They can't handle any criticism of labour. Thanks for handing them their ass in this debate, it was great fun to read.
Now that really is cognitive dissonance, seeing as the only people in the thread who have had there asses handed to them are the smearers who keep trying and failing to paint Labour as anti-Semites!
As pointed out above, it's the right-wing of British politics who need to be concerned with racism, not the left. And it's very telling indeed that the right wing of British politics seem to have ignored the issue of racism completely, despite the Conservative party being rife with it, until they were able to desperately seize upon two inconsequential people amongst a Labour party of hundreds of thousands.
It's funny how people never seem interested in talking about anti-semitism in a thread of its own, but are very keen indeed to bring it up in any discussions pertaining to the dodgy financial dealings of the Tories and the press coverage associated with it.
Almost as if they wish people would change the subject...I wonder why!
Yet again you have fallen into the well worn track of deflecting any criticism of your chosen one onto something that bares no resemblance to the discussion.
You seem keen to deflect any mention of anti semitism by saying "it's ok because the Tories are more racist"
It's not a competition , racism is racism.
The Labour Party are suffering at the moment because of their appeal from anti Semites , to ignore this and deflect it is abhorrent.
You are either so blind that you'll support Corbyn through anything , or you are , as I suspect , one of the many anti Semites that attach themselves to this party because it suits your racist agenda. "So now you are accusing me of being an anti-semite...well, that's nice. I'll report you for that, of course. It's worth noting that by doing so, you are doing exactly what the media are doing with the Labour party right now. Scared of their opinions and appeal of their arguments? Unable to combat them? Smear them with accusations of racism, with no evidence to back them up. Unless you'd like to point out on what basis you suspect me of being an anti-semite...or even explain what on earth you mean by Labour's appeal to anti-semites. That's Labour, the only party than can claim to have actively combated racism since inception. Both should be easy to explain, as they clearly exist in your own mind, if not actual reality. | |||
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"Well of course...but The Telegraph have decided it's decent fodder in the war to make people stop looking at Dodgy Dave and friends: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/04/12/jeremy-corbyns-3million-state-funded-salary-and-pension-revealed/ Interesting, I find labour's problems with anti-semitism far more distracting personally. Most of these labour stories have been anti zionist not anti semitism That's a distinction that people eager to spread the smears are not really interested in. True, any critic of Israel is the next Hitler apparently. The most recent labour councillor that was suspended said Hitler was a great man, no me mention of Zionism. The one a couple of months ago called Jews "Big noses" not the most horrendous insult but still no mention of Zionism. The Labour Party themselves are carrying out an investigation as to why it attracts anti Semites so to say there is not a problem is not really telling the truth. What is true to say is that it is a problem with two people who are members of the Labour party. What is absolutely not true, to the point that it is a purposeful lie, otherwise known as a smear, is to say that it is a problem with the Labour Party. Unless you also think that the Conservative party are all suspected rapists, as I pointed out above. And if you think that...
I said the problem is labour seems to attract anti Semites. This is not a lie or a smear it is a fact.
Otherwise why would labour activists be seeking a rule change to ban anti Semites ?
And it is not just the two cases as mentioned. The Oxford uni labour group had been branded anti Semites,
Corbyn was warned by a wealthy backer that big Jewish donors are refraining from making donations to Labour because of what they see as inaction and apathy in combatting the rising tide of anti-Semitism among party members.
Michael Foster, whose family donated more than £400,000 in the 2015 General Election, said “Jeremy Corbyn continues to ignore the anti a
Semitic problem – and that shocks me. He makes no attempt at all to put at ease a Jewish community in Britain that for more than 100 years has supported Labour spiritually, politically and financially.”
What you say as 'seems', I say as 'reported'.
The story is frankly bollocks, there are far more racists of every stripe attracted to the Conservative party, because it is traditionally the party of racism in the UK.
I won't waste either of our time linking to every story involving a Conservative being a racist, as we both know it's self-evident.
The story is not bollocks, it is very real and is of great concern to the many Jewish backers and supporters of the Labour Party.
You seem to confuse any criticism of Corbyn as support for the Tories.
Why with any mention of Corbyn do you retort "conservative this, conservative that" ?
Are we to ignore the wrongs of one side simply because you deem the wrongs of another greater ?
It's called cognitive dissonance and they are full of it. They can't handle any criticism of labour. Thanks for handing them their ass in this debate, it was great fun to read.
Now that really is cognitive dissonance, seeing as the only people in the thread who have had there asses handed to them are the smearers who keep trying and failing to paint Labour as anti-Semites!
As pointed out above, it's the right-wing of British politics who need to be concerned with racism, not the left. And it's very telling indeed that the right wing of British politics seem to have ignored the issue of racism Well of course...but The Telegraph have decided it's decent fodder in the war to make people stop looking at Dodgy Dave and friends:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/04/12/jeremy-corbyns-3million-state-funded-salary-and-pension-revealed/
Interesting, I find labour's problems with anti-semitism far more distracting personally.
Most of these labour stories have been anti zionist not anti semitism
That's a distinction that people eager to spread the smears are not really interested in.
True, any critic of Israel is the next Hitler apparently.
The most recent labour councillor that was suspended said Hitler was a great man, no me mention of Zionism.
The one a couple of months ago called Jews "Big noses" not the most horrendous insult but still no mention of Zionism.
The Labour Party themselves are carrying out an investigation as to why it attracts anti Semites so to say there is not a problem is not really telling the truth.
What is true to say is that it is a problem with two people who are members of the Labour party.
What is absolutely not true, to the point that it is a purposeful lie, otherwise known as a smear, is to say that it is a problem with the Labour Party.
Unless you also think that the Conservative party are all suspected rapists, as I pointed out above. And if you think that...
I said the problem is labour seems to attract anti Semites. This is not a lie or a smear it is a fact.
Otherwise why would labour activists be seeking a rule change to ban anti Semites ?
And it is not just the two cases as mentioned. The Oxford uni labour group had been branded anti Semites,
Corbyn was warned by a wealthy backer that big Jewish donors are refraining from making donations to Labour because of what they see as inaction and apathy in combatting the rising tide of anti-Semitism among party members.
Michael Foster, whose family donated more than £400,000 in the 2015 General Election, said “Jeremy Corbyn continues to ignore the anti a
Semitic problem – and that shocks me. He makes no attempt at all to put at ease a Jewish community in Britain that for more than 100 years has supported Labour spiritually, politically and financially.”
What you say as 'seems', I say as 'reported'.
The story is frankly bollocks, there are far more racists of every stripe attracted to the Conservative party, because it is traditionally the party of racism in the UK.
I won't waste either of our time linking to every story involving a Conservative being a racist, as we both know it's self-evident.
The story is not bollocks, it is very real and is of great concern to the many Jewish backers and supporters of the Labour Party.
You seem to confuse any criticism of Corbyn as support for the Tories.
Why with any mention of Corbyn do you retort "conservative this, conservative that" ?
Are we to ignore the wrongs of one side simply because you deem the wrongs of another greater ?
It's called cognitive dissonance and they are full of it. They can't handle any criticism of labour. Thanks for handing them their ass in this debate, it was great fun to read.
Now that really is cognitive dissonance, seeing as the only people in the thread who have had there asses handed to them are the smearers who keep trying and failing to paint Labour as anti-Semites!
As pointed out above, it's the right-wing of British politics who need to be concerned with racism, not the left. And it's very telling indeed that the right wing of British politics seem to have ignored the issue of racism completely, despite the Conservative party being rife with it, until they were able to desperately seize upon two inconsequential people amongst a Labour party of hundreds of thousands.
It's funny how people never seem interested in talking about anti-semitism in a thread of its own, but are very keen indeed to bring it up in any discussions pertaining to the dodgy financial dealings of the Tories and the press coverage associated with it.
Almost as if they wish people would change the subject...I wonder why!
Yet again you have fallen into the well worn track of deflecting any criticism of your chosen one onto something that bares no resemblance to the discussion.
You seem keen to deflect any mention of anti semitism by saying "it's ok because the Tories are more racist"
It's not a competition , racism is racism.
The Labour Party are suffering at the moment because of their appeal from anti Semites , to ignore this and deflect it is abhorrent.
You are either so blind that you'll support Corbyn through anything , or you are , as I suspect , one of the many anti Semites that attach themselves to this party because it suits your racist agenda.
So now you are accusing me of being an anti-semite...well, that's nice. I'll report you for that, of course.
It's worth noting that by doing so, you are doing exactly what the media are doing with the Labour party right now. Scared of their opinions and appeal of their arguments? Unable to combat them? Smear them with accusations of racism, with no evidence to back them up.
Unless you'd like to point out on what basis you suspect me of being an anti-semite...or even explain what on earth you mean by Labour's appeal to anti-semites. That's Labour, the only party than can claim to have actively combated racism since inception.
Both should be easy to explain, as they clearly exist in your own mind, if not actual reality."Interesting take you have there. You can be rude, aggressive, overbearing, ignorant and bullish, but the moment you think someone's accusing you of something, it's hit the report button. Glass Houses. Stones. | |||
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"It is funny watching what is happening. JC is being attacked by the Tory media for not attacking the Tory government, being too left wing, not being an effective opposition and now being paid his salary for the last 30 years. While at the same time the Tories tare themselves apart and their dirty little secrets that the Tory press have been helping them hide keep on escaping into the public domain. Nice to know that the government have no problem with a minister having a 'relationship' with a prostitute or that the PM is such a prick he has a history of sticking his dick in dead pigs and using dodgy offshore financial vehicles for his personal profit. Cant wait to hear the next revelation.
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"It's not the Tory media running with the anti-semitism story though is it? Nice attempt at a dodge as ever. " I understand this is a bit of an aside... but... Which part of the media is not Tory controlled? | |||
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"It's not the Tory media running with the anti-semitism story though is it? Nice attempt at a dodge as ever. I understand this is a bit of an aside... but... Which part of the media is not Tory controlled?" Well lets see, the BBC, the Guardian, the internet, most radio stations, twitter, Facebook, most blogs... Who the fuck reads newspapers these days anyway? You make it sound like the Tories are the evil empire! People outside this little island don't give a shit about UK politics, watch al-jazeera if it bothers you that much | |||
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" Yet again you have fallen into the well worn track of deflecting any criticism of your chosen one onto something that bares no resemblance to the discussion. You seem keen to deflect any mention of anti semitism by saying "it's ok because the Tories are more racist" It's not a competition , racism is racism. The Labour Party are suffering at the moment because of their appeal from anti Semites , to ignore this and deflect it is abhorrent. You are either so blind that you'll support Corbyn through anything , or you are , as I suspect , one of the many anti Semites that attach themselves to this party because it suits your racist agenda. So now you are accusing me of being an anti-semite...well, that's nice. I'll report you for that, of course. It's worth noting that by doing so, you are doing exactly what the media are doing with the Labour party right now. Scared of their opinions and appeal of their arguments? Unable to combat them? Smear them with accusations of racism, with no evidence to back them up. Unless you'd like to point out on what basis you suspect me of being an anti-semite...or even explain what on earth you mean by Labour's appeal to anti-semites. That's Labour, the only party than can claim to have actively combated racism since inception. Both should be easy to explain, as they clearly exist in your own mind, if not actual reality." Your second point is very easy point out. Just a few headlines from media outlets. I won't post links as I don't know which ones are allowed. A party that attracts antisemites like flies to a cesspit”: the Jewish Chronicle condemns Labour In a damning leader, the newspaper calls on Jeremy Corbyn to address the “cancer” of antisemitism in his party. From the Guardian Labour and the left have an antisemitism problem Jonathan Freedland The BBC Activists and MPs have told BBC Radio 4's Today programme they are trying to toughen the rules on anti-Semitism, Islamophobia and racism. Even if they fail, I'm told a party review by Labour peer Lady Royall into allegations of anti-Semitism may well also suggest rewriting the rulebook. That is highly unlikely to be the end of this story, though, because it goes to the heart of a poisonous atmosphere in parts of the Labour movement. Jeremy Corbyn's critics - who are many and vociferous - put the blame at his door. Nearly all media outlets , especially the Jewish press, are running with story's about labours problem. By you ignoring it and trying to deflect you are making the problem worse and it seems to me that you have an agenda. Perhaps the anti Semitic leaning of Corbyns labour appeals to you. Now excuse me while I go and shit myself about you reporting me. You have accused myself & many forumites off all sorts yet a bit of criticism levelled at you and you go and cry to mummy. | |||
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"Well lets see, the BBC, the Guardian, the internet, most radio stations, twitter, Facebook, most blogs... " The BBC really? Would that be the same BBC who removed Jeremy Paxman from Newsnight because he questioned Tory ministers too hard? And now has a policy of 'equality' where if it says something nasty about a Tory it also says something nasty about Labour after the Tories threatened to close it down if it did not stop airing negative stories about them? I'll give you that The Guardian is still independent and willing to publish and be dammed. But I would not agree about most independent radio. As for your comment about facebook, twitter and blogs, none of them are the media. They like this forum are the voices of normal people saying what they think. Just we do it on line now rather than down the pub. | |||
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"Well lets see, the BBC, the Guardian, the internet, most radio stations, twitter, Facebook, most blogs... The BBC really? Would that be the same BBC who removed Jeremy Paxman from Newsnight because he questioned Tory ministers too hard? And now has a policy of 'equality' where if it says something nasty about a Tory it also says something nasty about Labour after the Tories threatened to close it down if it did not stop airing negative stories about them? I'll give you that The Guardian is still independent and willing to publish and be dammed. But I would not agree about most independent radio. As for your comment about facebook, twitter and blogs, none of them are the media. They like this forum are the voices of normal people saying what they think. Just we do it on line now rather than down the pub." It's all conspiracy isn't? It's not that your ideas are stupid and most people don't agree, it's that everyone else is brainwashed by the big bad tories and everyone would agree with you if only they knew the truth. | |||
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" Yet again you have fallen into the well worn track of deflecting any criticism of your chosen one onto something that bares no resemblance to the discussion. You seem keen to deflect any mention of anti semitism by saying "it's ok because the Tories are more racist" It's not a competition , racism is racism. The Labour Party are suffering at the moment because of their appeal from anti Semites , to ignore this and deflect it is abhorrent. You are either so blind that you'll support Corbyn through anything , or you are , as I suspect , one of the many anti Semites that attach themselves to this party because it suits your racist agenda. So now you are accusing me of being an anti-semite...well, that's nice. I'll report you for that, of course. It's worth noting that by doing so, you are doing exactly what the media are doing with the Labour party right now. Scared of their opinions and appeal of their arguments? Unable to combat them? Smear them with accusations of racism, with no evidence to back them up. Unless you'd like to point out on what basis you suspect me of being an anti-semite...or even explain what on earth you mean by Labour's appeal to anti-semites. That's Labour, the only party than can claim to have actively combated racism since inception. Both should be easy to explain, as they clearly exist in your own mind, if not actual reality. Your second point is very easy point out. Just a few headlines from media outlets. I won't post links as I don't know which ones are allowed. A party that attracts antisemites like flies to a cesspit”: the Jewish Chronicle condemns Labour In a damning leader, the newspaper calls on Jeremy Corbyn to address the “cancer” of antisemitism in his party. From the Guardian Labour and the left have an antisemitism problem Jonathan Freedland The BBC Activists and MPs have told BBC Radio 4's Today programme they are trying to toughen the rules on anti-Semitism, Islamophobia and racism. Even if they fail, I'm told a party review by Labour peer Lady Royall into allegations of anti-Semitism may well also suggest rewriting the rulebook. That is highly unlikely to be the end of this story, though, because it goes to the heart of a poisonous atmosphere in parts of the Labour movement. Jeremy Corbyn's critics - who are many and vociferous - put the blame at his door. Nearly all media outlets , especially the Jewish press, are running with story's about labours problem. By you ignoring it and trying to deflect you are making the problem worse and it seems to me that you have an agenda. Perhaps the anti Semitic leaning of Corbyns labour appeals to you. Now excuse me while I go and shit myself about you reporting me. You have accused myself & many forumites off all sorts yet a bit of criticism levelled at you and you go and cry to mummy. " Well said that man. He's great at calling people obtuse and idiots, great at crying like a girl when he gets a bit back. Not that you actually made the comment of course, he has great form for reading what he thought, as opposed to reading what was actually written. | |||
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"Well lets see, the BBC, the Guardian, the internet, most radio stations, twitter, Facebook, most blogs... The BBC really? Would that be the same BBC who removed Jeremy Paxman from Newsnight because he questioned Tory ministers too hard? And now has a policy of 'equality' where if it says something nasty about a Tory it also says something nasty about Labour after the Tories threatened to close it down if it did not stop airing negative stories about them? I'll give you that The Guardian is still independent and willing to publish and be dammed. But I would not agree about most independent radio. As for your comment about facebook, twitter and blogs, none of them are the media. They like this forum are the voices of normal people saying what they think. Just we do it on line now rather than down the pub. It's all conspiracy isn't? It's not that your ideas are stupid and most people don't agree, it's that everyone else is brainwashed by the big bad tories and everyone would agree with you if only they knew the truth. " I thought Facebook, twitter and blogs were media, social media. | |||
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"Well lets see, the BBC, the Guardian, the internet, most radio stations, twitter, Facebook, most blogs... The BBC really? Would that be the same BBC who removed Jeremy Paxman from Newsnight because he questioned Tory ministers too hard? And now has a policy of 'equality' where if it says something nasty about a Tory it also says something nasty about Labour after the Tories threatened to close it down if it did not stop airing negative stories about them? I'll give you that The Guardian is still independent and willing to publish and be dammed. But I would not agree about most independent radio. As for your comment about facebook, twitter and blogs, none of them are the media. They like this forum are the voices of normal people saying what they think. Just we do it on line now rather than down the pub. It's all conspiracy isn't? It's not that your ideas are stupid and most people don't agree, it's that everyone else is brainwashed by the big bad tories and everyone would agree with you if only they knew the truth. I thought Facebook, twitter and blogs were media, social media. " Facebook and Twitter have also started censoring people/opinions they don't agree with | |||
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"Well lets see, the BBC, the Guardian, the internet, most radio stations, twitter, Facebook, most blogs... The BBC really? Would that be the same BBC who removed Jeremy Paxman from Newsnight because he questioned Tory ministers too hard? And now has a policy of 'equality' where if it says something nasty about a Tory it also says something nasty about Labour after the Tories threatened to close it down if it did not stop airing negative stories about them? I'll give you that The Guardian is still independent and willing to publish and be dammed. But I would not agree about most independent radio. As for your comment about facebook, twitter and blogs, none of them are the media. They like this forum are the voices of normal people saying what they think. Just we do it on line now rather than down the pub. It's all conspiracy isn't? It's not that your ideas are stupid and most people don't agree, it's that everyone else is brainwashed by the big bad tories and everyone would agree with you if only they knew the truth. I thought Facebook, twitter and blogs were media, social media. Facebook and Twitter have also started censoring people/opinions they don't agree with " Not people that think Hitler was great apparently | |||
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" Yet again you have fallen into the well worn track of deflecting any criticism of your chosen one onto something that bares no resemblance to the discussion. You seem keen to deflect any mention of anti semitism by saying "it's ok because the Tories are more racist" It's not a competition , racism is racism. The Labour Party are suffering at the moment because of their appeal from anti Semites , to ignore this and deflect it is abhorrent. You are either so blind that you'll support Corbyn through anything , or you are , as I suspect , one of the many anti Semites that attach themselves to this party because it suits your racist agenda. So now you are accusing me of being an anti-semite...well, that's nice. I'll report you for that, of course. It's worth noting that by doing so, you are doing exactly what the media are doing with the Labour party right now. Scared of their opinions and appeal of their arguments? Unable to combat them? Smear them with accusations of racism, with no evidence to back them up. Unless you'd like to point out on what basis you suspect me of being an anti-semite...or even explain what on earth you mean by Labour's appeal to anti-semites. That's Labour, the only party than can claim to have actively combated racism since inception. Both should be easy to explain, as they clearly exist in your own mind, if not actual reality. Your second point is very easy point out. Just a few headlines from media outlets. I won't post links as I don't know which ones are allowed. A party that attracts antisemites like flies to a cesspit”: the Jewish Chronicle condemns Labour In a damning leader, the newspaper calls on Jeremy Corbyn to address the “cancer” of antisemitism in his party. From the Guardian Labour and the left have an antisemitism problem Jonathan Freedland The BBC Activists and MPs have told BBC Radio 4's Today programme they are trying to toughen the rules on anti-Semitism, Islamophobia and racism. Even if they fail, I'm told a party review by Labour peer Lady Royall into allegations of anti-Semitism may well also suggest rewriting the rulebook. That is highly unlikely to be the end of this story, though, because it goes to the heart of a poisonous atmosphere in parts of the Labour movement. Jeremy Corbyn's critics - who are many and vociferous - put the blame at his door. Nearly all media outlets , especially the Jewish press, are running with story's about labours problem. By you ignoring it and trying to deflect you are making the problem worse and it seems to me that you have an agenda. Perhaps the anti Semitic leaning of Corbyns labour appeals to you. Now excuse me while I go and shit myself about you reporting me. You have accused myself & many forumites off all sorts yet a bit of criticism levelled at you and you go and cry to mummy. " Nice attempt to deflect the criticism from yourself, once again...it's like you are blind to what you have actually written, which would explain the lack of facts you are able to bring to this thread, I suppose. Let's be clear - I don't take being accused of being an anti-Semite by you as 'a bit of criticism', I take it as the most disgusting smear imaginable - especially as it is spurious. You have no place on this forum if you think that to make such a disgusting slur against another person here is acceptable. As to your 'evidence' against the Labour Party, the media across the board have a vested interest in attempting to spread the smear of anti-semitism, because the establishment is terrified of Cobyn's popularity. That includes The Guardian, who have been instrumental in the campaign against Corbyn since before his election to leader, so they carry as much credibility as The Telegraph on this issue. | |||
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" Yet again you have fallen into the well worn track of deflecting any criticism of your chosen one onto something that bares no resemblance to the discussion. You seem keen to deflect any mention of anti semitism by saying "it's ok because the Tories are more racist" It's not a competition , racism is racism. The Labour Party are suffering at the moment because of their appeal from anti Semites , to ignore this and deflect it is abhorrent. You are either so blind that you'll support Corbyn through anything , or you are , as I suspect , one of the many anti Semites that attach themselves to this party because it suits your racist agenda. So now you are accusing me of being an anti-semite...well, that's nice. I'll report you for that, of course. It's worth noting that by doing so, you are doing exactly what the media are doing with the Labour party right now. Scared of their opinions and appeal of their arguments? Unable to combat them? Smear them with accusations of racism, with no evidence to back them up. Unless you'd like to point out on what basis you suspect me of being an anti-semite...or even explain what on earth you mean by Labour's appeal to anti-semites. That's Labour, the only party than can claim to have actively combated racism since inception. Both should be easy to explain, as they clearly exist in your own mind, if not actual reality. Your second point is very easy point out. Just a few headlines from media outlets. I won't post links as I don't know which ones are allowed. A party that attracts antisemites like flies to a cesspit”: the Jewish Chronicle condemns Labour In a damning leader, the newspaper calls on Jeremy Corbyn to address the “cancer” of antisemitism in his party. From the Guardian Labour and the left have an antisemitism problem Jonathan Freedland The BBC Activists and MPs have told BBC Radio 4's Today programme they are trying to toughen the rules on anti-Semitism, Islamophobia and racism. Even if they fail, I'm told a party review by Labour peer Lady Royall into allegations of anti-Semitism may well also suggest rewriting the rulebook. That is highly unlikely to be the end of this story, though, because it goes to the heart of a poisonous atmosphere in parts of the Labour movement. Jeremy Corbyn's critics - who are many and vociferous - put the blame at his door. Nearly all media outlets , especially the Jewish press, are running with story's about labours problem. By you ignoring it and trying to deflect you are making the problem worse and it seems to me that you have an agenda. Perhaps the anti Semitic leaning of Corbyns labour appeals to you. Now excuse me while I go and shit myself about you reporting me. You have accused myself & many forumites off all sorts yet a bit of criticism levelled at you and you go and cry to mummy. Nice attempt to deflect the criticism from yourself, once again...it's like you are blind to what you have actually written, which would explain the lack of facts you are able to bring to this thread, I suppose. Let's be clear - I don't take being accused of being an anti-Semite by you as 'a bit of criticism', I take it as the most disgusting smear imaginable - especially as it is spurious. You have no place on this forum if you think that to make such a disgusting slur against another person here is acceptable. As to your 'evidence' against the Labour Party, the media across the board have a vested interest in attempting to spread the smear of anti-semitism, because the establishment is terrified of Cobyn's popularity. That includes The Guardian, who have been instrumental in the campaign against Corbyn since before his election to leader, so they carry as much credibility as The Telegraph on this issue. " To paraphrase: its all a conspiracy. So I take it you've put your money where your mouth is and placed a big fat bet on Corbyn to become PM since the bookies odds are so generous on the matter, you'll get 8x your bet. | |||
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" Yet again you have fallen into the well worn track of deflecting any criticism of your chosen one onto something that bares no resemblance to the discussion. You seem keen to deflect any mention of anti semitism by saying "it's ok because the Tories are more racist" It's not a competition , racism is racism. The Labour Party are suffering at the moment because of their appeal from anti Semites , to ignore this and deflect it is abhorrent. You are either so blind that you'll support Corbyn through anything , or you are , as I suspect , one of the many anti Semites that attach themselves to this party because it suits your racist agenda. So now you are accusing me of being an anti-semite...well, that's nice. I'll report you for that, of course. It's worth noting that by doing so, you are doing exactly what the media are doing with the Labour party right now. Scared of their opinions and appeal of their arguments? Unable to combat them? Smear them with accusations of racism, with no evidence to back them up. Unless you'd like to point out on what basis you suspect me of being an anti-semite...or even explain what on earth you mean by Labour's appeal to anti-semites. That's Labour, the only party than can claim to have actively combated racism since inception. Both should be easy to explain, as they clearly exist in your own mind, if not actual reality. Your second point is very easy point out. Just a few headlines from media outlets. I won't post links as I don't know which ones are allowed. A party that attracts antisemites like flies to a cesspit”: the Jewish Chronicle condemns Labour In a damning leader, the newspaper calls on Jeremy Corbyn to address the “cancer” of antisemitism in his party. From the Guardian Labour and the left have an antisemitism problem Jonathan Freedland The BBC Activists and MPs have told BBC Radio 4's Today programme they are trying to toughen the rules on anti-Semitism, Islamophobia and racism. Even if they fail, I'm told a party review by Labour peer Lady Royall into allegations of anti-Semitism may well also suggest rewriting the rulebook. That is highly unlikely to be the end of this story, though, because it goes to the heart of a poisonous atmosphere in parts of the Labour movement. Jeremy Corbyn's critics - who are many and vociferous - put the blame at his door. Nearly all media outlets , especially the Jewish press, are running with story's about labours problem. By you ignoring it and trying to deflect you are making the problem worse and it seems to me that you have an agenda. Perhaps the anti Semitic leaning of Corbyns labour appeals to you. Now excuse me while I go and shit myself about you reporting me. You have accused myself & many forumites off all sorts yet a bit of criticism levelled at you and you go and cry to mummy. Nice attempt to deflect the criticism from yourself, once again...it's like you are blind to what you have actually written, which would explain the lack of facts you are able to bring to this thread, I suppose. Let's be clear - I don't take being accused of being an anti-Semite by you as 'a bit of criticism', I take it as the most disgusting smear imaginable - especially as it is spurious. You have no place on this forum if you think that to make such a disgusting slur against another person here is acceptable. As to your 'evidence' against the Labour Party, the media across the board have a vested interest in attempting to spread the smear of anti-semitism, because the establishment is terrified of Cobyn's popularity. That includes The Guardian, who have been instrumental in the campaign against Corbyn since before his election to leader, so they carry as much credibility as The Telegraph on this issue. " Never was a more true phrase typed; "it's like you are blind to what you have actually written". I've seen a few of your posts where you insult people and abuse them. One rule for you and one for everyone else? Not that he actually accused you of anything or called you any names. Please don't let the details get in the way of a cry though. Would you like a tissue? | |||
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"How can I become an mp and get lots of monies? Won't be a popular answer this but here goes. You can be an MP by having an exceptional education (possibly paid for by your wealthy parents but not necessarily) and then being prepared to work 100 hours a week in a relentlessly stressful job in the sure and certain knowledge that you will be despised by the majority of people who pay your wages. Easy really. Eduction yes, but no work experience needed!! If sitting around talking qualifies as work then yes they work for 100 hours a week but that's not exactly the same as standing at the front of a classroom for 100 hours or banging out steel for 100 hours! " My job pretty much involves sitting around talking for about 45 hours a week and it's a damn site harder than unloading 36 tonne of furniture from shipping containers by hand every day used to be. (For 50 hours plus a week) The reality is that being a politician is not a job many could cope with. If it was, we would all be getting £100k plus a year doing it. | |||
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" Never was a more true phrase typed; "it's like you are blind to what you have actually written". I've seen a few of your posts where you insult people and abuse them. One rule for you and one for everyone else? Not that he actually accused you of anything or called you any names. Please don't let the details get in the way of a cry though. Would you like a tissue? " When a rich person evades tax they are scum. When a tradesman does it then they are a lovable rouge. When Cameron makes a tit of himself then he's incompetent. When Corbyn does it then he's following his principles. When a right wing person is racist then the Nazi's are making a come back. When a leftie does it then it's taken out of context and it's just a smear. Corbyn is so so popular even though they didn't have the foresight to cash in when he was 200-1 to become labour leader and they still won't put their money where their mouth is now at 8-1 to be PM. | |||
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"How can I become an mp and get lots of monies? Won't be a popular answer this but here goes. You can be an MP by having an exceptional education (possibly paid for by your wealthy parents but not necessarily) and then being prepared to work 100 hours a week in a relentlessly stressful job in the sure and certain knowledge that you will be despised by the majority of people who pay your wages. Easy really. Eduction yes, but no work experience needed!! If sitting around talking qualifies as work then yes they work for 100 hours a week but that's not exactly the same as standing at the front of a classroom for 100 hours or banging out steel for 100 hours! My job pretty much involves sitting around talking for about 45 hours a week and it's a damn site harder than unloading 36 tonne of furniture from shipping containers by hand every day used to be. (For 50 hours plus a week) The reality is that being a politician is not a job many could cope with. If it was, we would all be getting £100k plus a year doing it. " My job involves a lot of sitting too and is desk based. But the difference is that I actually have to produce something on my computer that has defined quality standards and my productivity is crystal clear. What's the productivity of a politician? They just yap yap yap. A reporter stood outside the commons after a debate about the budget and asked a variety of MPs from all parties to explain to viewers the difference between the deficit and the debt. I swear 8/10 of them couldn't do it!!! What the f had they just been 'debating'??? PPE as a subject should be banned because is churns out people that understand the minimum amount of information to make a speech about everything, but have no expertise to make a good decision about anything. | |||
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" Yet again you have fallen into the well worn track of deflecting any criticism of your chosen one onto something that bares no resemblance to the discussion. You seem keen to deflect any mention of anti semitism by saying "it's ok because the Tories are more racist" It's not a competition , racism is racism. The Labour Party are suffering at the moment because of their appeal from anti Semites , to ignore this and deflect it is abhorrent. You are either so blind that you'll support Corbyn through anything , or you are , as I suspect , one of the many anti Semites that attach themselves to this party because it suits your racist agenda. So now you are accusing me of being an anti-semite...well, that's nice. I'll report you for that, of course. It's worth noting that by doing so, you are doing exactly what the media are doing with the Labour party right now. Scared of their opinions and appeal of their arguments? Unable to combat them? Smear them with accusations of racism, with no evidence to back them up. Unless you'd like to point out on what basis you suspect me of being an anti-semite...or even explain what on earth you mean by Labour's appeal to anti-semites. That's Labour, the only party than can claim to have actively combated racism since inception. Both should be easy to explain, as they clearly exist in your own mind, if not actual reality. Your second point is very easy point out. Just a few headlines from media outlets. I won't post links as I don't know which ones are allowed. A party that attracts antisemites like flies to a cesspit”: the Jewish Chronicle condemns Labour In a damning leader, the newspaper calls on Jeremy Corbyn to address the “cancer” of antisemitism in his party. From the Guardian Labour and the left have an antisemitism problem Jonathan Freedland The BBC Activists and MPs have told BBC Radio 4's Today programme they are trying to toughen the rules on anti-Semitism, Islamophobia and racism. Even if they fail, I'm told a party review by Labour peer Lady Royall into allegations of anti-Semitism may well also suggest rewriting the rulebook. That is highly unlikely to be the end of this story, though, because it goes to the heart of a poisonous atmosphere in parts of the Labour movement. Jeremy Corbyn's critics - who are many and vociferous - put the blame at his door. Nearly all media outlets , especially the Jewish press, are running with story's about labours problem. By you ignoring it and trying to deflect you are making the problem worse and it seems to me that you have an agenda. Perhaps the anti Semitic leaning of Corbyns labour appeals to you. Now excuse me while I go and shit myself about you reporting me. You have accused myself & many forumites off all sorts yet a bit of criticism levelled at you and you go and cry to mummy. Nice attempt to deflect the criticism from yourself, once again...it's like you are blind to what you have actually written, which would explain the lack of facts you are able to bring to this thread, I suppose. Let's be clear - I don't take being accused of being an anti-Semite by you as 'a bit of criticism', I take it as the most disgusting smear imaginable - especially as it is spurious. You have no place on this forum if you think that to make such a disgusting slur against another person here is acceptable. As to your 'evidence' against the Labour Party, the media across the board have a vested interest in attempting to spread the smear of anti-semitism, because the establishment is terrified of Cobyn's popularity. That includes The Guardian, who have been instrumental in the campaign against Corbyn since before his election to leader, so they carry as much credibility as The Telegraph on this issue. " Could you please tell me which criticism I am trying to deflect. Which part about labour MP's and activists launch an investigation as to to why they attract anti Semites didn't you understand ? Why's bit about Michael Foster, a wealthy Jewish donor to the Labour Party , criticising Corbyn on his apathy towards anti Semitism didn't you understand ? These are facts. Labour have admitted they have a problem and many of their own MP's , counsellors and activists are concerned about Corbyns innaction over it. Yet you insist it's just a media smear. Virtually every media outlet has run story's about the infiltration of anti Semites into the Labour Party yet you dismiss this as a conspiracy. By sticking your head in the sand and ignoring it you are allowing the cancer to grow. And I care not if you think I shouldn't be on the forum. You can't bully me with your threats of reporting. Your attitude to anyone who dare disagree or criticise you is very childlike and you go crying if anyone sticks up to you. | |||
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"Ok let's get back to the question as it is beginning to look a bit childish. At the moment no one has broken any rules but please keep it civil. " My middle name is Civil. | |||
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"Ok let's get back to the question as it is beginning to look a bit childish. At the moment no one has broken any rules but please keep it civil. My middle name is Civil. " Sorry , it's Cyril. | |||
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Cameron would kick Corbyn's ass. Just saying. Which one would you rather have a threesome with, Cameron or Corbyn ? "Is it a straight MMF or is there bi play involved? | |||
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"Impressed with Corbyns stance on the Brexit today not a great orator though few Stumbles. Almost forced in a few places I felt. I wonder what's going on behind the scenes. Galloway was quite butthurt about the whole thing today which made for good listening he's always good value for an alternative opinion. " Can't stand Galloway but thought he was good on the radio today. Corbyn has changed sides for the sake of his party | |||
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"He's gone fetch his dad
Cameron would kick Corbyn's ass. Just saying. Which one would you rather have a threesome with, Cameron or Corbyn ?
Is it a straight MMF or is there bi play involved? That's up to you and them lol"Whilst it would be tempting to fuck Corbyn up the ass, his physique is horrible and I'd rather Dave's bubble butt if I have to choose. That said, Dan Jarvis puts them both to shame and I'd be happy to kick back and watch him and my wife have fun. Although if Cameron was bringing his wife it would be another matter. Choices choices | |||
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"He's gone fetch his dad
Cameron would kick Corbyn's ass. Just saying. Which one would you rather have a threesome with, Cameron or Corbyn ?
Is it a straight MMF or is there bi play involved? That's up to you and them lol
Whilst it would be tempting to fuck Corbyn up the ass, his physique is horrible and I'd rather Dave's bubble butt if I have to choose. That said, Dan Jarvis puts them both to shame and I'd be happy to kick back and watch him and my wife have fun. Although if Cameron was bringing his wife it would be another matter. Choices choices "I used to fancy Diane Abbot. I think that's the only thing that Corbyn and myself have in common. | |||
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"He's gone fetch his dad
Cameron would kick Corbyn's ass. Just saying. Which one would you rather have a threesome with, Cameron or Corbyn ?
Is it a straight MMF or is there bi play involved? That's up to you and them lol
Whilst it would be tempting to fuck Corbyn up the ass, his physique is horrible and I'd rather Dave's bubble butt if I have to choose. That said, Dan Jarvis puts them both to shame and I'd be happy to kick back and watch him and my wife have fun. Although if Cameron was bringing his wife it would be another matter. Choices choices "Good answer . Gotta admit if Dave and Samantha had a profile on here I'd wink them and send them a message | |||
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"He's gone fetch his dad
Cameron would kick Corbyn's ass. Just saying. Which one would you rather have a threesome with, Cameron or Corbyn ?
Is it a straight MMF or is there bi play involved? That's up to you and them lol
Whilst it would be tempting to fuck Corbyn up the ass, his physique is horrible and I'd rather Dave's bubble butt if I have to choose. That said, Dan Jarvis puts them both to shame and I'd be happy to kick back and watch him and my wife have fun. Although if Cameron was bringing his wife it would be another matter. Choices choices
I used to fancy Diane Abbot.
I think that's the only thing that Corbyn and myself have in common. "Wow, didn't see that one coming. I won't say anything bad about her but Liz Kendall is more my cup of labour tail. | |||
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"He's gone fetch his dad
Cameron would kick Corbyn's ass. Just saying. Which one would you rather have a threesome with, Cameron or Corbyn ?
Is it a straight MMF or is there bi play involved? That's up to you and them lol
Whilst it would be tempting to fuck Corbyn up the ass, his physique is horrible and I'd rather Dave's bubble butt if I have to choose. That said, Dan Jarvis puts them both to shame and I'd be happy to kick back and watch him and my wife have fun. Although if Cameron was bringing his wife it would be another matter. Choices choices
Good answer . Gotta admit if Dave and Samantha had a profile on here I'd wink them and send them a message "I'd give Tony and Cherie Blair and wink too, there are unfortunate pictures of her with certain facial expressions but in normal conversation she looks fine. I like me a bit of posh too. | |||
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"He's gone fetch his dad
Cameron would kick Corbyn's ass. Just saying. Which one would you rather have a threesome with, Cameron or Corbyn ?
Is it a straight MMF or is there bi play involved? That's up to you and them lol
Whilst it would be tempting to fuck Corbyn up the ass, his physique is horrible and I'd rather Dave's bubble butt if I have to choose. That said, Dan Jarvis puts them both to shame and I'd be happy to kick back and watch him and my wife have fun. Although if Cameron was bringing his wife it would be another matter. Choices choices
I used to fancy Diane Abbot.
I think that's the only thing that Corbyn and myself have in common.
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"Impressed with Corbyns stance on the Brexit today not a great orator though few Stumbles. Almost forced in a few places I felt. I wonder what's going on behind the scenes. Galloway was quite butthurt about the whole thing today which made for good listening he's always good value for an alternative opinion. Can't stand Galloway but thought he was good on the radio today. Corbyn has changed sides for the sake of his party " Yeah poor show from Corbyn today, looks like he doesn't have the balls to put country before party it seems. He's been consistently anti EU for decades now sold out on his principles which Galloway was right to point out. I'm not keen on Galloway either but at least he is a man of conviction and sticks to his principles. Labour MP Kate Hoey who has known Corbyn many many years speaking on sky news today saying Corbyn doesn't really believe in the EU project and she thinks that lack of enthusiasm showed in Corbyn's speech. Let's face it before today Corbyn has been Mr Invisible on the EU referendum debate. Lastly if Corbyn thinks he can now change the EU from within he is living in cloud cookoo land, and he won't have a hope in Hells chance of winning back those ex Labour voters who switched to UKIP now with his new pro EU stance. | |||
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"He's gone fetch his dad
Cameron would kick Corbyn's ass. Just saying. Which one would you rather have a threesome with, Cameron or Corbyn ?
Is it a straight MMF or is there bi play involved? That's up to you and them lol
Whilst it would be tempting to fuck Corbyn up the ass, his physique is horrible and I'd rather Dave's bubble butt if I have to choose. That said, Dan Jarvis puts them both to shame and I'd be happy to kick back and watch him and my wife have fun. Although if Cameron was bringing his wife it would be another matter. Choices choices
I used to fancy Diane Abbot.
I think that's the only thing that Corbyn and myself have in common.
Wow, didn't see that one coming. I won't say anything bad about her but Liz Kendall is more my cup of labour tail.
Abbot was lovely a few years , not too sure about now though.
Now Sayeeda Warsi is probably my favourite at the moment though.
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"He's gone fetch his dad
Cameron would kick Corbyn's ass. Just saying. Which one would you rather have a threesome with, Cameron or Corbyn ?
Is it a straight MMF or is there bi play involved? That's up to you and them lol
Whilst it would be tempting to fuck Corbyn up the ass, his physique is horrible and I'd rather Dave's bubble butt if I have to choose. That said, Dan Jarvis puts them both to shame and I'd be happy to kick back and watch him and my wife have fun. Although if Cameron was bringing his wife it would be another matter. Choices choices
I used to fancy Diane Abbot.
I think that's the only thing that Corbyn and myself have in common.
Wow, didn't see that one coming. I won't say anything bad about her but Liz Kendall is more my cup of labour tail.
Abbot was lovely a few years , not too sure about now though.
Now Sayeeda Warsi is probably my favourite at the moment though.
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"Well of course...but The Telegraph have decided it's decent fodder in the war to make people stop looking at Dodgy Dave and friends: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/04/12/jeremy-corbyns-3million-state-funded-salary-and-pension-revealed/ Interesting, I find labour's problems with anti-semitism far more distracting personally. " | |||
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" Never was a more true phrase typed; "it's like you are blind to what you have actually written". I've seen a few of your posts where you insult people and abuse them. One rule for you and one for everyone else? Not that he actually accused you of anything or called you any names. Please don't let the details get in the way of a cry though. Would you like a tissue? When a rich person evades tax they are scum. When a tradesman does it then they are a lovable rouge. When Cameron makes a tit of himself then he's incompetent. When Corbyn does it then he's following his principles. When a right wing person is racist then the Nazi's are making a come back. When a leftie does it then it's taken out of context and it's just a smear. Corbyn is so so popular even though they didn't have the foresight to cash in when he was 200-1 to become labour leader and they still won't put their money where their mouth is now at 8-1 to be PM. "
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" Never was a more true phrase typed; "it's like you are blind to what you have actually written". I've seen a few of your posts where you insult people and abuse them. One rule for you and one for everyone else? Not that he actually accused you of anything or called you any names. Please don't let the details get in the way of a cry though. Would you like a tissue? When a rich person evades tax they are scum. When a tradesman does it then they are a lovable rouge. When Cameron makes a tit of himself then he's incompetent. When Corbyn does it then he's following his principles. When a right wing person is racist then the Nazi's are making a come back. When a leftie does it then it's taken out of context and it's just a smear. Corbyn is so so popular even though they didn't have the foresight to cash in when he was 200-1 to become labour leader and they still won't put their money where their mouth is now at 8-1 to be PM.
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"Well of course...but The Telegraph have decided it's decent fodder in the war to make people stop looking at Dodgy Dave and friends: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/04/12/jeremy-corbyns-3million-state-funded-salary-and-pension-revealed/" Such a stupid story; if you read to the bottom, it actually says that he will get exactly the same as any other MP who has consistently been elected by his constituency for 33 years straight. Id anyone is shocked by the story, then they are truly stupid. Of course it is "state funded" Politicians work for the state. That's like saying a postmans pension is funded by the Royal Mail Group! | |||
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"I also read that Jeremy befriended a sex worker until he found out what she was and so had to end the relationship.I've also heard that he secretly operates a terror cell for Al Quaeda which is funded by an offshore tax haven known as Blairmoor. I'm not sure whether I believe the claim in the newspapers today that Jeremy drinks the blood of slaughtered goats (slaughtered on the streets of Britain) as part of a voodoo ritual. However I feel that the last claim takes some believing. What an absolute scoundrel and who on Earth could vote for such an evil man ?" No one in their right mind | |||
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"I also read that Jeremy befriended a sex worker until he found out what she was and so had to end the relationship.I've also heard that he secretly operates a terror cell for Al Quaeda which is funded by an offshore tax haven known as Blairmoor. I'm not sure whether I believe the claim in the newspapers today that Jeremy drinks the blood of slaughtered goats (slaughtered on the streets of Britain) as part of a voodoo ritual. However I feel that the last claim takes some believing. What an absolute scoundrel and who on Earth could vote for such an evil man ? No one in their right mind " People that haven't read any history books... | |||
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"I also read that Jeremy befriended a sex worker until he found out what she was and so had to end the relationship.I've also heard that he secretly operates a terror cell for Al Quaeda which is funded by an offshore tax haven known as Blairmoor. I'm not sure whether I believe the claim in the newspapers today that Jeremy drinks the blood of slaughtered goats (slaughtered on the streets of Britain) as part of a voodoo ritual. However I feel that the last claim takes some believing. What an absolute scoundrel and who on Earth could vote for such an evil man ? No one in their right mind People that haven't read any history books... "
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"I also read that Jeremy befriended a sex worker until he found out what she was and so had to end the relationship.I've also heard that he secretly operates a terror cell for Al Quaeda which is funded by an offshore tax haven known as Blairmoor. I'm not sure whether I believe the claim in the newspapers today that Jeremy drinks the blood of slaughtered goats (slaughtered on the streets of Britain) as part of a voodoo ritual. However I feel that the last claim takes some believing. What an absolute scoundrel and who on Earth could vote for such an evil man ? No one in their right mind People that haven't read any history books...
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"The need to belittle people and their beliefs is not a pleasant personality trait. But it's all part of the dog eat dog world view of some, I guess "I'm very tolerant of a variety of views, but extreme politics have caused extreme misery in the world. There's very little difference between the far right and far left in terms of the track records of how they treat people. Some people want to repeat the mistakes of the last century where hundred of millions of people died untimely deaths due to social experiments with stupid political ideas. I don't. | |||
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"I also read that Jeremy befriended a sex worker until he found out what she was and so had to end the relationship.I've also heard that he secretly operates a terror cell for Al Quaeda which is funded by an offshore tax haven known as Blairmoor. I'm not sure whether I believe the claim in the newspapers today that Jeremy drinks the blood of slaughtered goats (slaughtered on the streets of Britain) as part of a voodoo ritual. However I feel that the last claim takes some believing. What an absolute scoundrel and who on Earth could vote for such an evil man ? No one in their right mind People that haven't read any history books...
What's the definition of madness?
Voting for a failed system of government that inflicted untold misery on over half of the world? "Yep. As Einstein said, doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result | |||
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"I also read that Jeremy befriended a sex worker until he found out what she was and so had to end the relationship.I've also heard that he secretly operates a terror cell for Al Quaeda which is funded by an offshore tax haven known as Blairmoor. I'm not sure whether I believe the claim in the newspapers today that Jeremy drinks the blood of slaughtered goats (slaughtered on the streets of Britain) as part of a voodoo ritual. However I feel that the last claim takes some believing. What an absolute scoundrel and who on Earth could vote for such an evil man ? No one in their right mind People that haven't read any history books...
What's the definition of madness?
Voting for a failed system of government that inflicted untold misery on over half of the world?
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"I also read that Jeremy befriended a sex worker until he found out what she was and so had to end the relationship.I've also heard that he secretly operates a terror cell for Al Quaeda which is funded by an offshore tax haven known as Blairmoor. I'm not sure whether I believe the claim in the newspapers today that Jeremy drinks the blood of slaughtered goats (slaughtered on the streets of Britain) as part of a voodoo ritual. However I feel that the last claim takes some believing. What an absolute scoundrel and who on Earth could vote for such an evil man ? No one in their right mind People that haven't read any history books...
What's the definition of madness?
Voting for a failed system of government that inflicted untold misery on over half of the world?
Yep. As Einstein said, doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result
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"I also read that Jeremy befriended a sex worker until he found out what she was and so had to end the relationship.I've also heard that he secretly operates a terror cell for Al Quaeda which is funded by an offshore tax haven known as Blairmoor. I'm not sure whether I believe the claim in the newspapers today that Jeremy drinks the blood of slaughtered goats (slaughtered on the streets of Britain) as part of a voodoo ritual. However I feel that the last claim takes some believing. What an absolute scoundrel and who on Earth could vote for such an evil man ? No one in their right mind People that haven't read any history books...
What's the definition of madness?
Voting for a failed system of government that inflicted untold misery on over half of the world?
Yep. As Einstein said, doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result
Much like these political threads
What are you reading them for then?"So I know who to put on my block list... Trotskyite looney tunes are not people I'd like to invite to mine. | |||
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"I also read that Jeremy befriended a sex worker until he found out what she was and so had to end the relationship.I've also heard that he secretly operates a terror cell for Al Quaeda which is funded by an offshore tax haven known as Blairmoor. I'm not sure whether I believe the claim in the newspapers today that Jeremy drinks the blood of slaughtered goats (slaughtered on the streets of Britain) as part of a voodoo ritual. However I feel that the last claim takes some believing. What an absolute scoundrel and who on Earth could vote for such an evil man ? No one in their right mind People that haven't read any history books...
What's the definition of madness?
Voting for a failed system of government that inflicted untold misery on over half of the world?
Yep. As Einstein said, doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result
Much like these political threads
What are you reading them for then?
So I know who to put on my block list... Trotskyite looney tunes are not people I'd like to invite to mine.
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" So I know who to put on my block list... Trotskyite looney tunes are not people I'd like to invite to mine. " One of my biggest fears in swinging is that we have a full swap and then guy says "ah that was great, worth skipping our Marxist study group for" - I'd have to take Mrs mixed home and scrub her for hours with bleach | |||
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"Funnily enough I find most right wingers do nothing for me, they just prattle on all night about their latest holiday or how fast their new car is. After about 30 minutes it's like having a conversation with a child, it's endearing but bloody hard work "I find people on either extremw to be boring wankers. | |||
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"Funnily enough I find most right wingers do nothing for me, they just prattle on all night about their latest holiday or how fast their new car is. After about 30 minutes it's like having a conversation with a child, it's endearing but bloody hard work "I doubt any decent 'right winger' would spend anything like 30 minutes in your company to be honest. And you know something about politics do you? The biggest tyrants in history have all been 'socialists' so enjoy your delusions | |||
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"Apologies if this is covered already... but.. The Torygraph reports that Corbyn made £3m over 30 years of parliamentary service. This is actually £1.5m of salary. So actually an annual salary of £50k plus an expected pension of similar. The same Torygraph was reported in Boris Johnson's tax return to have paid him £1 million for writing shite in their very own paper for the past 4 years "So what you're pointing out is that Boris held a real job before office and Corbyn didn't... | |||
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"Apologies if this is covered already... but.. The Torygraph reports that Corbyn made £3m over 30 years of parliamentary service. This is actually £1.5m of salary. So actually an annual salary of £50k plus an expected pension of similar. The same Torygraph was reported in Boris Johnson's tax return to have paid him £1 million for writing shite in their very own paper for the past 4 years "Sorry, but the thread has moved on from this. Corbyn is apparently gearing up to massacre half the world; his salary is barely relevant | |||
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"What I'm pointing out is that one person is paid a fairly average salary in London and has been for over 30 years. The other continues to be paid by the same paper printing said shite. I'm pointing this out because it appears many people on this topic haven't been able to fathom as much for themselves. As for "real job"
Yes a proper fucking man of the people is Boris "Not the same thing though is it. Not everyone who has a job is a man of the people, but anyone who hasn't had a job outside politics definately isn't. As Jeff Immelt (CEO of GE) said to Bernie Sanders: "we create wealth and jobs instead of just calling for them in speeches". Ouch. | |||
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"What I'm pointing out is that one person is paid a fairly average salary in London and has been for over 30 years. The other continues to be paid by the same paper printing said shite. I'm pointing this out because it appears many people on this topic haven't been able to fathom as much for themselves. As for "real job"
Yes a proper fucking man of the people is Boris
Not the same thing though is it.
Not everyone who has a job is a man of the people, but anyone who hasn't had a job outside politics definately isn't.
As Jeff Immelt (CEO of GE) said to Bernie Sanders: "we create wealth and jobs instead of just calling for them in speeches". Ouch. "I'm not seeing a relevant point in that. Johnson gets a job as a journo via his mate from Oxford and then treads the well trodden path straight into politics. Corbyn gets a job as a trade unionist and then treads the well trodden path into politics. One got paid £1 million in the past 4 years for writing shite in a newspaper. That same newspaper then "outs" Corbyn for having made less money in a 30+ year career than Johnson made in the past 4 years!!! | |||
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"What I'm pointing out is that one person is paid a fairly average salary in London and has been for over 30 years. The other continues to be paid by the same paper printing said shite. I'm pointing this out because it appears many people on this topic haven't been able to fathom as much for themselves. As for "real job"
Yes a proper fucking man of the people is Boris
Not the same thing though is it.
Not everyone who has a job is a man of the people, but anyone who hasn't had a job outside politics definately isn't.
As Jeff Immelt (CEO of GE) said to Bernie Sanders: "we create wealth and jobs instead of just calling for them in speeches". Ouch. "I could vote for Jeff. | |||
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"What I'm pointing out is that one person is paid a fairly average salary in London and has been for over 30 years. The other continues to be paid by the same paper printing said shite. I'm pointing this out because it appears many people on this topic haven't been able to fathom as much for themselves. As for "real job"
Yes a proper fucking man of the people is Boris
Not the same thing though is it.
Not everyone who has a job is a man of the people, but anyone who hasn't had a job outside politics definately isn't.
As Jeff Immelt (CEO of GE) said to Bernie Sanders: "we create wealth and jobs instead of just calling for them in speeches". Ouch.
I'm not seeing a relevant point in that.
Johnson gets a job as a journo via his mate from Oxford and then treads the well trodden path straight into politics.
Corbyn gets a job as a trade unionist and then treads the well trodden path into politics.
One got paid £1 million in the past 4 years for writing shite in a newspaper. That same newspaper then "outs" Corbyn for having made less money in a 30+ year career than Johnson made in the past 4 years!!!
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"Maybe he did - I don't give a shit about their qualifications from the last century. I'm more interested in how despite the ridiculous reporting - some people still can't see beyond their red or blue y-fronts! And still more either can't read, or make sense of words! " Well I agreed that the £3m figure is a complete non-story so I hope that isn't aimed at me. | |||
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"Maybe he did - I don't give a shit about their qualifications from the last century. I'm more interested in how despite the ridiculous reporting - some people still can't see beyond their red or blue y-fronts! And still more either can't read, or make sense of words! Well I agreed that the £3m figure is a complete non-story so I hope that isn't aimed at me. " Only the bit about blue y-fronts
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"Maybe he did - I don't give a shit about their qualifications from the last century. I'm more interested in how despite the ridiculous reporting - some people still can't see beyond their red or blue y-fronts! And still more either can't read, or make sense of words! Well I agreed that the £3m figure is a complete non-story so I hope that isn't aimed at me. Only the bit about blue y-fronts
"My political views are like my sex life, I swing. I'll vote blue if I think they are the best at the time, but not always. I didn't vote for Michael fucking Howard and I have a semi for Dan Jarvis if you reds would stop pissing about with a no hoper. | |||
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"Apologies if this is covered already... but.. The Torygraph reports that Corbyn made £3m over 30 years of parliamentary service. This is actually £1.5m of salary. So actually an annual salary of £50k plus an expected pension of similar. The same Torygraph was reported in Boris Johnson's tax return to have paid him £1 million for writing shite in their very own paper for the past 4 years ". I think you will find that if the articles in the Telegraph were not well written people would refuse to buy it . Boris Johnson is a very talented individual.. Jeremy Corbyns is from public funds and her did not even finish his University Degree | |||
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"Apologies if this is covered already... but.. The Torygraph reports that Corbyn made £3m over 30 years of parliamentary service. This is actually £1.5m of salary. So actually an annual salary of £50k plus an expected pension of similar. The same Torygraph was reported in Boris Johnson's tax return to have paid him £1 million for writing shite in their very own paper for the past 4 years . I think you will find that if the articles in the Telegraph were not well written people would refuse to buy it . Boris Johnson is a very talented individual..
Jeremy Corbyns is from public funds and her did not even finish his University Degree "and I think you will find their university degree has fuck all to do with anything. and I think you will find that Boris Johnson gets paid a huge amount in public funds too. But he does have talented hair. | |||
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"I'm not a red. I might have been a yellow if that fucker from Sheffield hadn't screwed it up though! I am interested in somebody who might upset the present state of affairs though and Corbyn is interesting for the response he's caused from the 'establishment' - of which this article is a good example. But yes once they stick Jarvis and Chukka somewhere sensible things will switch about again." His worst enemy is his own mouth: https://youtu.be/8sjiTzeJhwg Try not to cringe too hard at 1:04 and 1:38 | |||
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"Funnily enough I find most right wingers do nothing for me, they just prattle on all night about their latest holiday or how fast their new car is. After about 30 minutes it's like having a conversation with a child, it's endearing but bloody hard work
I doubt any decent 'right winger' would spend anything like 30 minutes in your company to be honest. And you know something about politics do you? The biggest tyrants in history have all been 'socialists' so enjoy your delusions ". I think you mean fascists and communists but that aside, I don't think you actually know anything about tyrants either!. . . I'm always pleasantly surprised by a conversation with somebody with knowledge!,I like to learn, you wanna try it some day | |||
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"His worst enemy is his own mouth: https://youtu.be/8sjiTzeJhwg Try not to cringe too hard at 1:04 and 1:38" Didn't make me cringe, just giggled
I'm not looking too deeply into him for a while because there's not much point - but I like that he isn't giving a load of media trained shite as responses, and I find the reaction to him interesting, including the seeming disconnect between the interest in him at 'grassroots' vs the vitriol in the media.
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"Questions of the day; Who voted against membership of the EU, as it is now, back in 1975? Who voted against the maastricht treaty in 1993? Who voted against the Lisbon treaty in 2008? Who is currently having any anti EU comments removed from his website? Who is now campaigning to stay in the EU? I wish he'd make his bloomin mind up. "Who is a man of principles... | |||
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"Questions of the day; Who voted against membership of the EU, as it is now, back in 1975? Who voted against the maastricht treaty in 1993? Who voted against the Lisbon treaty in 2008? Who is currently having any anti EU comments removed from his website? Who is now campaigning to stay in the EU? I wish he'd make his bloomin mind up.
Who is a man of principles... "Who wears garish tracksuits and rides a bike? The Labour party picked the wrong Miliband brother, now Corbyn's brother wants out of the EU it seems Labour got the wrong Corbyn brother too. | |||
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"Apologies if this is covered already... but.. The Torygraph reports that Corbyn made £3m over 30 years of parliamentary service. This is actually £1.5m of salary. So actually an annual salary of £50k plus an expected pension of similar. The same Torygraph was reported in Boris Johnson's tax return to have paid him £1 million for writing shite in their very own paper for the past 4 years . I think you will find that if the articles in the Telegraph were not well written people would refuse to buy it . Boris Johnson is a very talented individual..
Jeremy Corbyns is from public funds and her did not even finish his University Degree
and I think you will find their university degree has fuck all to do with anything.
and I think you will find that Boris Johnson gets paid a huge amount in public funds too.
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"Well of course...but The Telegraph have decided it's decent fodder in the war to make people stop looking at Dodgy Dave and friends: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/04/12/jeremy-corbyns-3million-state-funded-salary-and-pension-revealed/ Interesting, I find labour's problems with anti-semitism far more distracting personally. Well, they are equally none existent as an issue, I'll give you that. Anyone who mentions those smears in seriousness plummets in my personal estimation, as it's clear they are more concerned with repeating smears than in anything resembling truth. Which is why The Telegraph run with it, naturally. It's the BBC running with the anti-semitism story and they have labour councillors posting on twitter about how great Hitler was so it's not a completely fabricated story. " One labour councillor. Seldom have I seen a poster,who was more prone to exaggeration, and half truths than you. Where you consider every mention of race,or colour, as anti semitism/racism. Not everything black or white,is racism. Try to maintain a sense of reality,when answering posts. Other wise you could look very foolish. Ooops!! it may already be to late. | |||
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"Well of course...but The Telegraph have decided it's decent fodder in the war to make people stop looking at Dodgy Dave and friends: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/04/12/jeremy-corbyns-3million-state-funded-salary-and-pension-revealed/ Interesting, I find labour's problems with anti-semitism far more distracting personally. Well, they are equally none existent as an issue, I'll give you that. Anyone who mentions those smears in seriousness plummets in my personal estimation, as it's clear they are more concerned with repeating smears than in anything resembling truth. Which is why The Telegraph run with it, naturally. It's the BBC running with the anti-semitism story and they have labour councillors posting on twitter about how great Hitler was so it's not a completely fabricated story. One labour councillor. Seldom have I seen a poster,who was more prone to exaggeration, and half truths than you. Where you consider every mention of race,or colour, as anti semitism/racism. Not everything black or white,is racism. Try to maintain a sense of reality,when answering posts. Other wise you could look very foolish. Ooops!! it may already be to late. "Apparently you haven't read the thread. Sigh. So multiple high profile labour donors are considering withdrawing funding because of one councillor - sure they are. | |||
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"Well of course...but The Telegraph have decided it's decent fodder in the war to make people stop looking at Dodgy Dave and friends: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/04/12/jeremy-corbyns-3million-state-funded-salary-and-pension-revealed/ Interesting, I find labour's problems with anti-semitism far more distracting personally. Well, they are equally none existent as an issue, I'll give you that. Anyone who mentions those smears in seriousness plummets in my personal estimation, as it's clear they are more concerned with repeating smears than in anything resembling truth. Which is why The Telegraph run with it, naturally. It's the BBC running with the anti-semitism story and they have labour councillors posting on twitter about how great Hitler was so it's not a completely fabricated story. One labour councillor. Seldom have I seen a poster,who was more prone to exaggeration, and half truths than you. Where you consider every mention of race,or colour, as anti semitism/racism. Not everything black or white,is racism. Try to maintain a sense of reality,when answering posts. Other wise you could look very foolish. Ooops!! it may already be to late.
Apparently you haven't read the thread. Sigh. So multiple high profile labour donors are considering withdrawing funding because of one councillor - sure they are. "Councillors/councilor. Keep it real.
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"Funnily enough I find most right wingers do nothing for me, they just prattle on all night about their latest holiday or how fast their new car is. After about 30 minutes it's like having a conversation with a child, it's endearing but bloody hard work
I doubt any decent 'right winger' would spend anything like 30 minutes in your company to be honest. And you know something about politics do you? The biggest tyrants in history have all been 'socialists' so enjoy your delusions .
I think you mean fascists and communists but that aside, I don't think you actually know anything about tyrants either!.
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"Funnily enough I find most right wingers do nothing for me, they just prattle on all night about their latest holiday or how fast their new car is. After about 30 minutes it's like having a conversation with a child, it's endearing but bloody hard work
I doubt any decent 'right winger' would spend anything like 30 minutes in your company to be honest. And you know something about politics do you? The biggest tyrants in history have all been 'socialists' so enjoy your delusions .
I think you mean fascists and communists but that aside, I don't think you actually know anything about tyrants either!.
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"Well of course...but The Telegraph have decided it's decent fodder in the war to make people stop looking at Dodgy Dave and friends: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/04/12/jeremy-corbyns-3million-state-funded-salary-and-pension-revealed/ Interesting, I find labour's problems with anti-semitism far more distracting personally. Well, they are equally none existent as an issue, I'll give you that. Anyone who mentions those smears in seriousness plummets in my personal estimation, as it's clear they are more concerned with repeating smears than in anything resembling truth. Which is why The Telegraph run with it, naturally. It's the BBC running with the anti-semitism story and they have labour councillors posting on twitter about how great Hitler was so it's not a completely fabricated story. One labour councillor. Seldom have I seen a poster,who was more prone to exaggeration, and half truths than you. Where you consider every mention of race,or colour, as anti semitism/racism. Not everything black or white,is racism. Try to maintain a sense of reality,when answering posts. Other wise you could look very foolish. Ooops!! it may already be to late.
Apparently you haven't read the thread. Sigh. So multiple high profile labour donors are considering withdrawing funding because of one councillor - sure they are.
Councillors/councilor.
Keep it real.
Ps I have voted labour all my life,I wouldn't piss on jeremy corbyn,were he on fire.
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