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Howard Marks. Another one gone.
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"Not the greatest role model but I must admit his books were very candid and showed other sides of him. RIP fella! "
Another what gone ? Another Drug Smuggler ? Ahhh bless xxx
Are we lauding any fucker that passes now ?
I don't mind. I just have a long list of far more worthy people we could sniff about.
My dad for one. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Not the greatest role model but I must admit his books were very candid and showed other sides of him. RIP fella!
Another what gone ? Another Drug Smuggler ? Ahhh bless xxx
Are we lauding any fucker that passes now ?
I don't mind. I just have a long list of far more worthy people we could sniff about.
My dad for one. "
Sorry. Didn't mean to piss on your chips. I did say he wasn't the best role model. |
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"Not the greatest role model but I must admit his books were very candid and showed other sides of him. RIP fella! "
What does RIP atually mean
You wish him to stay in his grave ? |
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"Not the greatest role model but I must admit his books were very candid and showed other sides of him. RIP fella!
Another what gone ? Another Drug Smuggler ? Ahhh bless xxx
Are we lauding any fucker that passes now ?
I don't mind. I just have a long list of far more worthy people we could sniff about.
My dad for one. "
"Sniff about" ahahahahaha  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Have you noticed that all these deaths in 2016 are actually humans ?
There's something very strange happening 
I thought a horse died last Friday  "
It is possible. |
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"Not the greatest role model but I must admit his books were very candid and showed other sides of him. RIP fella! "
I thought his hits "right here waiting" and "hazard" were very good, it's a shame he didn't do more chart topping songs. |
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"Not the greatest role model but I must admit his books were very candid and showed other sides of him. RIP fella!
What does RIP atually mean
You wish him to stay in his grave ?"
'I didn't attend the funeral but I did send a nice letter saying I approved.'
Mark Twain |
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By *olgateMan
over a year ago
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"I lost a Turkish delight the other week after my Mum had been round to visit and was left unaccompanied near the pantry 
RIP my Turkish Delight
Deserves it's own thread"
It's the sequel.
Midnight Express- the sugar rush |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Jesus, you people. If you dont know who he was or care then move on. Personally he was someone I respected and got to meet briefly. RIP (rest in peace whoever asked what that meant) |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Jesus, you people. If you dont know who he was or care then move on. Personally he was someone I respected and got to meet briefly. RIP (rest in peace whoever asked what that meant) "
No, tell me what does saying RIP actually mean ?
What are you wishing dead people ? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Have you noticed that all these deaths in 2016 are actually humans ?
There's something very strange happening
I thought a horse died last Friday "
4 horses died at the aintree festival last week. |
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5,
Kings Palace (IRE)
09 Apr, 2016
Aintree
Pulled Up - Lame - Destroyed-
Gullinbursti (IRE)
08 Apr, 2016
Aintree
Fell - Broke Neck - Dead-
Minella Recption (IRE)
08 Apr, 2016
Aintree
Fell - Dead-
Marasonnien (FR)
07 Apr, 2016
Aintree
Pulled Up - Fatally Inju_ed-
Clonbanan Lad (IRE)
07 Apr, 2016
Aintree
Pulled Up - Fatally Inju_ed- |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"5,
Kings Palace (IRE)
09 Apr, 2016
Aintree
Pulled Up - Lame - Destroyed-
Gullinbursti (IRE)
08 Apr, 2016
Aintree
Fell - Broke Neck - Dead-
Minella Recption (IRE)
08 Apr, 2016
Aintree
Fell - Dead-
Marasonnien (FR)
07 Apr, 2016
Aintree
Pulled Up - Fatally Inju_ed-
Clonbanan Lad (IRE)
07 Apr, 2016
Aintree
Pulled Up - Fatally Inju_ed-"
My mistake. |
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By *al2001Man
over a year ago
kildare |
"5,
Kings Palace (IRE)
09 Apr, 2016
Aintree
Pulled Up - Lame - Destroyed-
Gullinbursti (IRE)
08 Apr, 2016
Aintree
Fell - Broke Neck - Dead-
Minella Recption (IRE)
08 Apr, 2016
Aintree
Fell - Dead-
Marasonnien (FR)
07 Apr, 2016
Aintree
Pulled Up - Fatally Inju_ed-
Clonbanan Lad (IRE)
07 Apr, 2016
Aintree
Pulled Up - Fatally Inju_ed-"
A condemnation of the "sport"
What's it got to do with Howard marks tho? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"5,
Kings Palace (IRE)
09 Apr, 2016
Aintree
Pulled Up - Lame - Destroyed-
Gullinbursti (IRE)
08 Apr, 2016
Aintree
Fell - Broke Neck - Dead-
Minella Recption (IRE)
08 Apr, 2016
Aintree
Fell - Dead-
Marasonnien (FR)
07 Apr, 2016
Aintree
Pulled Up - Fatally Inju_ed-
Clonbanan Lad (IRE)
07 Apr, 2016
Aintree
Pulled Up - Fatally Inju_ed-
A condemnation of the "sport"
What's it got to do with Howard marks tho?"
Death of dumb animals ? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Howard Marks was best known for his notoriety and mystery as much as actual drug deals etc. I personally think it's ridiculous to compare his death to another drug dealer or involve animals / others on this thread. Ultimately he caught the attention of the public and he allegedly did all sorts of work for the governments of several countries which was positive, so he'll always be divisive but as he's well known, comes with the territory. Truth is we'll never know, but he lived a full life for sure. RIP and if people are hung up about drug dealers or horses, what are they doing about it? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Howard Marks was best known for his notoriety and mystery as much as actual drug deals etc. I personally think it's ridiculous to compare his death to another drug dealer or involve animals / others on this thread. Ultimately he caught the attention of the public and he allegedly did all sorts of work for the governments of several countries which was positive, so he'll always be divisive but as he's well known, comes with the territory. Truth is we'll never know, but he lived a full life for sure. RIP and if people are hung up about drug dealers or horses, what are they doing about it? "
Not buying drugs or riding horses to their deaths. |
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By *edMan
over a year ago
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"Howard Marks was best known for his notoriety and mystery as much as actual drug deals etc. I personally think it's ridiculous to compare his death to another drug dealer or involve animals / others on this thread. Ultimately he caught the attention of the public and he allegedly did all sorts of work for the governments of several countries which was positive, so he'll always be divisive but as he's well known, comes with the territory. Truth is we'll never know, but he lived a full life for sure. RIP and if people are hung up about drug dealers or horses, what are they doing about it?
Not buying drugs or riding horses to their deaths. "
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By *olgateMan
over a year ago
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Whatever way you look at it, he was a drug dealer and he should not be idolised for that or for writing books that glamorise drug peddling in any way.
Drug dealers are scum. |
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By *al2001Man
over a year ago
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"Whatever way you look at it, he was a drug dealer and he should not be idolised for that or for writing books that glamorise drug peddling in any way.
Drug dealers are scum. "
He as a non violent dope dealer. Hardly Escobar.
At least he got to see the end of the war on drugs starting in his lifetime |
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"Whatever way you look at it, he was a drug dealer and he should not be idolised for that or for writing books that glamorise drug peddling in any way.
Drug dealers are scum. "
In your opinion 
I thought he was very convivial the two times I met him.
I've met a lot of drug dealers in various professional and unprofessional capacities and, as they go, I thought he had a lot of interesting things to say about the state of legalisation, the damage the drugs laws inadvertently cause and their failure in general to stem the problems that drug misuse can bring.
imo |
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"Whatever way you look at it, he was a drug dealer and he should not be idolised for that or for writing books that glamorise drug peddling in any way.
Drug dealers are scum.
In your opinion
I thought he was very convivial the two times I met him.
I've met a lot of drug dealers in various professional and unprofessional capacities and, as they go, I thought he had a lot of interesting things to say about the state of legalisation, the damage the drugs laws inadvertently cause and their failure in general to stem the problems that drug misuse can bring.
imo"
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"Whatever way you look at it, he was a drug dealer and he should not be idolised for that or for writing books that glamorise drug peddling in any way.
Drug dealers are scum.
In your opinion
I thought he was very convivial the two times I met him.
I've met a lot of drug dealers in various professional and unprofessional capacities and, as they go, I thought he had a lot of interesting things to say about the state of legalisation, the damage the drugs laws inadvertently cause and their failure in general to stem the problems that drug misuse can bring.
imo"
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The facts are heroin is used in medicine and hospitals, it's a product and products are what the world does well.
We make heroin for pharmaceutical use extremely cheaply. Like £5 a kilo, but used outside of medicine and pharmacy it's £50,000 a kilo.
What were actually doing is putting £49,995 pounds in the hands of bad people, who then use this money to do more bad things! And all because we moralise over it's use!.
The cost of giving away heroin to addicts would be less than the cost of methadone and technically the first one is less harmful than the latter.
But fear not tens of thousands of people can continue to suffer for your moral conscience to be clean, that we didn't let them do it!.
Hoorah, let's slap ourselves on the back  |
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"Whatever way you look at it, he was a drug dealer and he should not be idolised for that or for writing books that glamorise drug peddling in any way.
Drug dealers are scum.
In your opinion
I thought he was very convivial the two times I met him.
I've met a lot of drug dealers in various professional and unprofessional capacities and, as they go, I thought he had a lot of interesting things to say about the state of legalisation, the damage the drugs laws inadvertently cause and their failure in general to stem the problems that drug misuse can bring.
imo.
The facts are heroin is used in medicine and hospitals, it's a product and products are what the world does well.
We make heroin for pharmaceutical use extremely cheaply. Like £5 a kilo, but used outside of medicine and pharmacy it's £50,000 a kilo.
What were actually doing is putting £49,995 pounds in the hands of bad people, who then use this money to do more bad things! And all because we moralise over it's use!.
The cost of giving away heroin to addicts would be less than the cost of methadone and technically the first one is less harmful than the latter.
But fear not tens of thousands of people can continue to suffer for your moral conscience to be clean, that we didn't let them do it!.
Hoorah, let's slap ourselves on the back "
What's heroine got to do with Howard Marks |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Whatever way you look at it, he was a drug dealer and he should not be idolised for that or for writing books that glamorise drug peddling in any way.
Drug dealers are scum.
In your opinion
I thought he was very convivial the two times I met him.
I've met a lot of drug dealers in various professional and unprofessional capacities and, as they go, I thought he had a lot of interesting things to say about the state of legalisation, the damage the drugs laws inadvertently cause and their failure in general to stem the problems that drug misuse can bring.
imo.
The facts are heroin is used in medicine and hospitals, it's a product and products are what the world does well.
We make heroin for pharmaceutical use extremely cheaply. Like £5 a kilo, but used outside of medicine and pharmacy it's £50,000 a kilo.
What were actually doing is putting £49,995 pounds in the hands of bad people, who then use this money to do more bad things! And all because we moralise over it's use!.
The cost of giving away heroin to addicts would be less than the cost of methadone and technically the first one is less harmful than the latter.
But fear not tens of thousands of people can continue to suffer for your moral conscience to be clean, that we didn't let them do it!.
Hoorah, let's slap ourselves on the back "
Quite the interesting argument. Governments struggle so much to actually _educe and combat it, criminals thrive at times. And for all the people that moan about drugs etc, there's not enough to either inspire change or action their words, drives me mad. |
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"Oh lol - if we turn this into a debate about legalisation the thread will be closed.
Just sayin'
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If making things illegal worked we'd be in utopia right now! |
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"Oh lol - if we turn this into a debate about legalisation the thread will be closed.
Just sayin'
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If making things illegal worked we'd be in utopia right now!"
I agree with you there. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Oh lol - if we turn this into a debate about legalisation the thread will be closed.
Just sayin'
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If making things illegal worked we'd be in utopia right now!"
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Plus what I'm actually saying is the government already legally dish out drugs free of charge.
I'm just saying it might be worth "expanding" that programme |
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"Oh lol - if we turn this into a debate about legalisation the thread will be closed.
Just sayin'
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If making things illegal worked we'd be in utopia right now!
I agree with you there."
I think we're all off the same page |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"like it or not ..it was a colourful life ...he made a career writing books and doing talks about his life ..people flocked to hear it "
I'd say some people turned up to see him would be a better description than flocked. |
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"like it or not ..it was a colourful life ...he made a career writing books and doing talks about his life ..people flocked to hear it
I'd say some people turned up to see him would be a better description than flocked. "
Last 3 times he was at Holmfirth,they were all sell outs |
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"I am saddened by this news.
He had a remarkable life and that makes him a remarkable man
A drug smuggler a remarkable man??"
Yes.
He engaged in a morally questionable business, got sent to maximum security prison in America and then made a career out of telling stories and lecturing about it.
He was a very clever man.
He certainly didn't kill anyone, nor did his actions lead to anyone's death that I'm aware of.
People still celebrate Stalin, or Mao write books about them - they did a lot worse.
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"I am saddened by this news.
He had a remarkable life and that makes him a remarkable man
A drug smuggler a remarkable man??"
Multi million pound corporate business men who sell life saving drugs at massive profits are given awards |
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By *ost SockMan
over a year ago
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"Sad, my grandfathers good friend, wonder if his funeral will be here. "
I'd imagine it would be, though he lived up north.
I loved him when younger. Feel a fair bit more conflicted about his past and some of his exploits now, but whatever the morality of it, he was an interesting guy.
I saw him once and someone asked "when were you most nervous". His answer was "probably when I was smuggling (insert ludicrous amount here) kilos of dope into Thailand".
I'm not too sure about the figure, but it was a crazy amount. 32,000kg or something.
I do like the fact he taught Welsh to death row prisoners in the USA
Gorffus mewn Hedd (RIP).
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"I am saddened by this news.
He had a remarkable life and that makes him a remarkable man
A drug smuggler a remarkable man??
Multi million pound corporate business men who sell life saving drugs at massive profits are given awards "
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"Sad, my grandfathers good friend, wonder if his funeral will be here.
there was already a wake for him in the farmers in cefn tonight"
Was it, haven't seen my Bampi since Saturday, wonder if he went. I'm porthcawl but my Bamps is a kenfig hill boy. |
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"Sad, my grandfathers good friend, wonder if his funeral will be here.
there was already a wake for him in the farmers in cefn tonight
Was it, haven't seen my Bampi since Saturday, wonder if he went. I'm porthcawl but my Bamps is a kenfig hill boy. "
it wasn't official, just some of the local boys paying their respects to another local boy. i heard there's another unofficial gathering in pontycymmer later this week by some his schoolmates and other friends. i'm hoping Gruff will let us know when the main event is. |
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By *elson61Man
over a year ago
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"I am saddened by this news.
He had a remarkable life and that makes him a remarkable man
A drug smuggler a remarkable man??
Yes.
He engaged in a morally questionable business, got sent to maximum security prison in America and then made a career out of telling stories and lecturing about it.
He was a very clever man.
He certainly didn't kill anyone, nor did his actions lead to anyone's death that I'm aware of.
People still celebrate Stalin, or Mao write books about them - they did a lot worse.
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How about swapping "morally questionable" with "totally illegal" or "criminal activities". That puts his activities into their proper context. He smuggled drugs for years, there is nothing remarkable about that. |
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