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Why do so many people think having Dodgy Dave in charge is so good for them?

By *illwill69u OP Man over a year ago

moston

Following on from many comments on the David Camoron thread finishing with

"Clem fandango

I want a dodgy geezer in charge who's trying to get rich. Not a socialist who things having wealth is a "bad thing"."

Where does the idea that having 'dodgy dan the bookkeeper man' as your accountant and do your tax returns, or 'backstreet bert' fix the breaks on your car? Or that 'call me [I stick my prick in pigs]"we're all in this together" Dave' and his Tories (from the Irish 'tóraidhe' which means outlaw highwayman) are the best people to have running the country for our benefit?

Why do so many people continue to believe contrary to all the evidence that they will be better off with corrupt self-serving crooks in charge of their money or safety?

Why do they defend those criminal parasites who are feeding on them?

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By *iewMan over a year ago
Forum Mod

Angus & Findhorn

I like him

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

We had a democratic vote didn't we? They won? So there's not much we can do about it until the next General Election.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I agree with clem

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By *olgateMan over a year ago

on the road to nowhere in particular

This is a general comment about everyone.

I thought the idea was to chastise people who broke the law not those that abide by it.

Why such a big deal over something that was legal and happened before he took office.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Woke up to another Anti Semite story breaking regarding the Labour Party.

Three stories three different age demographics across multiple news platforms with even the left calling for more to be done in tackling it within the Labour Party. Even the Mayoral candidate calling it a badge of shame.

Then you got the other side with money and farmyard frolics.

Both as bad as each other so it's make the best out of several bad things. Can't remember a more grubbier time in Politics.

And don't get me started on UKIP.

If only the Greens became more credible.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I'm a through and through Conservative supporter, they have brought more stability to the country in the last few years than a Labour government would have done in my opinion. I actually dread to think what the coy try would become if Jeremy Corbin became prime minister, I think it would take us back a long way rather than forwards.

We elect the party into power through democracy, they elect their leader through democracy and that has to be respected, regardless of personal feelings on an individual.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

If the Fonseca scandal proves that Cameron did anything illegal, then he should be held accountable.

If he didn't, then well, I see no recourse.

Politicians contradicting themselves has been around since time began. I still find it amusing that people actually consider any of them remotely trustworthy.

We the people, as a majority, elected him. Next time, perhaps we should choose more wisely? I mean it wasn't as though we didn't know what we were getting - we had four years of previous experience.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I like him

Can you let me know every time you are going to say this, so that I can add a

Ta.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I agree with clem

Me too.

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By *olgateMan over a year ago

on the road to nowhere in particular

A government is only as good as its opposition

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"This is a general comment about everyone.

I thought the idea was to chastise people who broke the law not those that abide by it.

Why such a big deal over something that was legal and happened before he took office. "

I agree with you too.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"A government is only as good as its opposition"

So, plenty more years conservative government ahead eh?

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By *dwalu2Couple over a year ago

Bristol

"Woke up to another Anti Semite story breaking regarding the Labour Party.

Then you got the other side with money and farmyard frolics.

Both as bad as each other so it's make the best out of several bad things. Can't remember a more grubbier time in Politics.

And don't get me started on UKIP.

If only the Greens became more credible. "

Yes, you'll hear more and more of these anti-semitism stories, concocted by people maliciously mistaking criticism of Israel and Zionism for anti-semitism, because they know there will be people more than happy to help spread the smears.

Especially as the Tories continue to tear themselves apart, the papers need something, please God anything, to throw Corbyn's way. Considering the Conservatives are the acceptable face of UK racism, it's pretty hypocritical too.

I don't know what's worse though - the people who smear, or the people who spread the smears. They are both equally complicit.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

As politics is simply another way of manipulating the masses, along with religion, and money, why do we expect any of them to be squeaky clean?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Woke up to another Anti Semite story breaking regarding the Labour Party.

Then you got the other side with money and farmyard frolics.

Both as bad as each other so it's make the best out of several bad things. Can't remember a more grubbier time in Politics.

And don't get me started on UKIP.

If only the Greens became more credible.

I don't know what's worse though - the people who smear, or the people who spread the smears. They are both equally complicit."

I notice you don't comment on the Labour press release on the matter or Sadiq Khan and his badge of shame (I like him by the way)

Your tunnel vision is astounding rather than admit flaws you try to deflect.

The problem is very real.

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By *dwalu2Couple over a year ago

Bristol

"Woke up to another Anti Semite story breaking regarding the Labour Party.

Then you got the other side with money and farmyard frolics.

Both as bad as each other so it's make the best out of several bad things. Can't remember a more grubbier time in Politics.

And don't get me started on UKIP.

If only the Greens became more credible.

I don't know what's worse though - the people who smear, or the people who spread the smears. They are both equally complicit.

I notice you don't comment on the Labour press release on the matter or Sadiq Khan and his badge of shame (I like him by the way)

Your tunnel vision is astounding rather than admit flaws you try to deflect.

The problem is very real. "

Two activists out of thousands does not equal a very real problem, no matter how much the national press wants to make it appear to be so. Sadiq Khan has his own political agenda.

The Conservative Party as the acceptable face of UK racism, on the other hand, is very real. Tory voters just don't mind about it that much.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I like him

We like him too

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Because he just happened to be the leader of the only credible party available to voters

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"We had a democratic vote didn't we? They won? So there's not much we can do about it until the next General Election.

Edward Miliband Destroyed all Labours hope of winning;

I see Edward Miliband as a weak person who I could not see running the UK

Happily I did not have to vote for either as I am in Scotland and we have the best Party in Power, to lead Scotland

and whether you like it or not The party in power for Scotland, looks out for Scotland's interests and is doing a good job, unlike the Party in Power in Westminster

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Woke up to another Anti Semite story breaking regarding the Labour Party.

Then you got the other side with money and farmyard frolics.

Both as bad as each other so it's make the best out of several bad things. Can't remember a more grubbier time in Politics.

And don't get me started on UKIP.

If only the Greens became more credible.

I don't know what's worse though - the people who smear, or the people who spread the smears. They are both equally complicit.

I notice you don't comment on the Labour press release on the matter or Sadiq Khan and his badge of shame (I like him by the way)

Your tunnel vision is astounding rather than admit flaws you try to deflect.

The problem is very real.

Two activists out of thousands does not equal a very real problem, no matter how much the national press wants to make it appear to be so. Sadiq Khan has his own political agenda.

The Conservative Party as the acceptable face of UK racism, on the other hand, is very real. Tory voters just don't mind about it that much."

More deflection and minimisation. Have you considered a career as a Tory spin doctor?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Because they voted for him and subconsciously they feel partly responsible!.

And so they fucking should

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By *dwalu2Couple over a year ago

Bristol

"Because he just happened to be the leader of the only credible party available to voters"

Is that what Grant Shapps told you?

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple over a year ago

in Lancashire

Lets be honest is anyone surprised and would be where this about those on the opposition benches (which may well come to light)..

power with some corrupts, there's news eh..

we get the Politicians we deserve..

if the behaviour is not acceptable from those to whom you are politically opposed, then it stands to reason if one is being 'objective' as regards the issue that its also not acceptable from those you support..

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By *dwalu2Couple over a year ago

Bristol

"Woke up to another Anti Semite story breaking regarding the Labour Party.

Then you got the other side with money and farmyard frolics.

Both as bad as each other so it's make the best out of several bad things. Can't remember a more grubbier time in Politics.

And don't get me started on UKIP.

If only the Greens became more credible.

I don't know what's worse though - the people who smear, or the people who spread the smears. They are both equally complicit.

I notice you don't comment on the Labour press release on the matter or Sadiq Khan and his badge of shame (I like him by the way)

Your tunnel vision is astounding rather than admit flaws you try to deflect.

The problem is very real.

Two activists out of thousands does not equal a very real problem, no matter how much the national press wants to make it appear to be so. Sadiq Khan has his own political agenda.

The Conservative Party as the acceptable face of UK racism, on the other hand, is very real. Tory voters just don't mind about it that much.

More deflection and minimisation. Have you considered a career as a Tory spin doctor? "

They are the facts, no need to spin them.

As an issue it will be forgotten in next week's Cameron thrashing, so no deflection needed either.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

If your not part of the solution, your part of the problem..

I'm taking names down!.

And not for a block list

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I hve total apathy for politics

they are the ame to me

its dodgt dave, nasty nigel etc etc etc

those in power abuse it...its just a basic fact, most hide it and have been for centuries

like that fucking irritating song "I wasnt expect that"- my worry is saying I didnt expect that

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By *dwalu2Couple over a year ago

Bristol

"Lets be honest is anyone surprised and would be where this about those on the opposition benches (which may well come to light)..

power with some corrupts, there's news eh..

we get the Politicians we deserve..

I don't think many Conservative voters will say they object to greed, deceit or hypocrisy, though. These are the traits that have drawn them to the party in the first place.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple over a year ago

in Lancashire

"Woke up to another Anti Semite story breaking regarding the Labour Party.

Then you got the other side with money and farmyard frolics.

Both as bad as each other so it's make the best out of several bad things. Can't remember a more grubbier time in Politics.

And don't get me started on UKIP.

If only the Greens became more credible.

I don't know what's worse though - the people who smear, or the people who spread the smears. They are both equally complicit.

I notice you don't comment on the Labour press release on the matter or Sadiq Khan and his badge of shame (I like him by the way)

Your tunnel vision is astounding rather than admit flaws you try to deflect.

The problem is very real. "

your right it is, as is or was the issue within the Tory party last year in the Conservative future campaign and the bullying which led to a young man to take his life..

senior figures were aware well certainly warned about it and did nothing to possibly prevent it..

none of them are perfect..

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Lets be honest is anyone surprised and would be where this about those on the opposition benches (which may well come to light)..

power with some corrupts, there's news eh..

we get the Politicians we deserve..

I don't think many Conservative voters will say they object to greed, deceit or hypocrisy, though. These are the traits that have drawn them to the party in the first place."

So how do you reconcile the fact that you share the same _iews on Europe as a 'filthy pig fucking crook'? (Your words not mine)

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple over a year ago

in Lancashire

"Lets be honest is anyone surprised and would be where this about those on the opposition benches (which may well come to light)..

power with some corrupts, there's news eh..

we get the Politicians we deserve..

I don't think many Conservative voters will say they object to greed, deceit or hypocrisy, though. These are the traits that have drawn them to the party in the first place.

So how do you reconcile the fact that you share the same _iews on Europe as a 'filthy pig fucking crook'? (Your words not mine)"

my enemies enemy..?

someone else's words not mine

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By *dwalu2Couple over a year ago

Bristol

"Woke up to another Anti Semite story breaking regarding the Labour Party.

Then you got the other side with money and farmyard frolics.

Both as bad as each other so it's make the best out of several bad things. Can't remember a more grubbier time in Politics.

And don't get me started on UKIP.

If only the Greens became more credible.

I don't know what's worse though - the people who smear, or the people who spread the smears. They are both equally complicit.

I notice you don't comment on the Labour press release on the matter or Sadiq Khan and his badge of shame (I like him by the way)

Your tunnel vision is astounding rather than admit flaws you try to deflect.

The problem is very real.

your right it is, as is or was the issue within the Tory party last year in the Conservative future campaign and the bullying which led to a young man to take his life..

senior figures were aware well certainly warned about it and did nothing to possibly prevent it..

none of them are perfect.."

It's also astonishing how many people have found that they suddenly care really passionately about anti-semitism, now it is being desperately used to attempt to smear Corbyn, (a longstanding campaigner against anti-semitism, of course) when previously they had no interest whatsoever in the issue before.

It's really is astonishing!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

If only the Greens became more credible. "
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Whow whow whow whow!.

Don't drag the greens into this charade.

We've got ALL the solutions... You just don't happen to like them!... There's a difference

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By *entaur_UKMan over a year ago

Cannock

Mystic Meg predicted that 2 political party leaders will be gone by the autumn. My money is on Cameron and Corbyn.

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By *dwalu2Couple over a year ago

Bristol

"Lets be honest is anyone surprised and would be where this about those on the opposition benches (which may well come to light)..

power with some corrupts, there's news eh..

we get the Politicians we deserve..

I don't think many Conservative voters will say they object to greed, deceit or hypocrisy, though. These are the traits that have drawn them to the party in the first place.

So how do you reconcile the fact that you share the same _iews on Europe as a 'filthy pig fucking crook'? (Your words not mine)"

I feel fine about it, it's not in need of reconciliation.

Cameron is a crooked pig fucker as everyone who voted for him is aware...but that doesn't mean he is wrong on the issue of Europe. If he were to compile a list of all the things he believes there are lots of _iews I'm sure we'd share. His _iews on same sex marriage are correct for instance, off the top of my head.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"We had a democratic vote didn't we? They won? So there's not much we can do about it until the next General Election.

I don't particularly like any of them, but I'm really not sure id want Jeremy Corbyn running the country either. I couldn't even tell you who runs the Liberals now. They're all much of a muchness in my eyes. None of them is clean as a whistle. "
Democratic vote ? The majority of the country dont vote and never have in my 53 year life. That says that the majority dont want what is on offer. so if its a democratic why havnt all the mps just done one and fucked off ?

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By *dwalu2Couple over a year ago

Bristol

"Mystic Meg predicted that 2 political party leaders will be gone by the autumn. My money is on Cameron and Corbyn.

How much did you lose on the number of seats UKIP would win in 2015?

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple over a year ago

in Lancashire

"Mystic Meg predicted that 2 political party leaders will be gone by the autumn. My money is on Cameron and Corbyn.

Na, be Cameron and Farrage..

Suzanne Evans is on the revenge trail..

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By *ophieslutTV/TS over a year ago

Central

He was voted in from a particularly safe seat. We don't vote for PM, unless subscribed to the tory party or within that representatives constituency.

The party as a whole didn't get that many votes but won based on our voting system.

He's a lightweight, self-serving spin merchant but probably better for him to remain until after the European vote. The conservatives aren't really after your wellbeing, so feel lucky if you get it.

Theresa May, Johnson and Osborne scare me a fair bit more.

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By *entaur_UKMan over a year ago

Cannock

"Mystic Meg predicted that 2 political party leaders will be gone by the autumn. My money is on Cameron and Corbyn.

How much did you lose on the number of seats UKIP would win in 2015?

None I didn't bet on it, but I did win £500 on Rule the world in the grand national yesterday.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Lets be honest is anyone surprised and would be where this about those on the opposition benches (which may well come to light)..

power with some corrupts, there's news eh..

we get the Politicians we deserve..

I don't think many Conservative voters will say they object to greed, deceit or hypocrisy, though. These are the traits that have drawn them to the party in the first place.

So how do you reconcile the fact that you share the same _iews on Europe as a 'filthy pig fucking crook'? (Your words not mine)

I feel fine about it, it's not in need of reconciliation.

Cameron is a crooked pig fucker as everyone who voted for him is aware.."
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Yeah but they like him and lots of people like Donald trump as well!.

If I may be presumptions... Nah it's not worth it

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Woke up to another Anti Semite story breaking regarding the Labour Party.

Then you got the other side with money and farmyard frolics.

Both as bad as each other so it's make the best out of several bad things. Can't remember a more grubbier time in Politics.

And don't get me started on UKIP.

If only the Greens became more credible.

I don't know what's worse though - the people who smear, or the people who spread the smears. They are both equally complicit.

I notice you don't comment on the Labour press release on the matter or Sadiq Khan and his badge of shame (I like him by the way)

Your tunnel vision is astounding rather than admit flaws you try to deflect.

The problem is very real.

your right it is, as is or was the issue within the Tory party last year in the Conservative future campaign and the bullying which led to a young man to take his life..

senior figures were aware well certainly warned about it and did nothing to possibly prevent it..

none of them are perfect.."

You are exactly right they are both serious issues glossed over and passed off as slurs until too late.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple over a year ago

in Lancashire

"Mystic Meg predicted that 2 political party leaders will be gone by the autumn. My money is on Cameron and Corbyn.

How much did you lose on the number of seats UKIP would win in 2015?

None I didn't bet on it, but I did win £500 on Rule the world in the grand national yesterday.

a UKIP supporter making money from a 'foreign horse'..

principles eh..

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Woke up to another Anti Semite story breaking regarding the Labour Party.

Then you got the other side with money and farmyard frolics.

Both as bad as each other so it's make the best out of several bad things. Can't remember a more grubbier time in Politics.

And don't get me started on UKIP.

If only the Greens became more credible.

I don't know what's worse though - the people who smear, or the people who spread the smears. They are both equally complicit.

I notice you don't comment on the Labour press release on the matter or Sadiq Khan and his badge of shame (I like him by the way)

Your tunnel vision is astounding rather than admit flaws you try to deflect.

The problem is very real.

your right it is, as is or was the issue within the Tory party last year in the Conservative future campaign and the bullying which led to a young man to take his life..

senior figures were aware well certainly warned about it and did nothing to possibly prevent it..

none of them are perfect..

It's really is astonishing!

I care because it's a personal issue to me. More deflection and twisting

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By *entaur_UKMan over a year ago

Cannock

"Mystic Meg predicted that 2 political party leaders will be gone by the autumn. My money is on Cameron and Corbyn.

How much did you lose on the number of seats UKIP would win in 2015?

None I didn't bet on it, but I did win £500 on Rule the world in the grand national yesterday.

a UKIP supporter making money from a 'foreign horse'..

principles eh..

Don't worry I won't be investing it in an offshore account in Panama.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I care because it's a personal issue to me. More deflection and twisting "
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I've warmed to you despite your frivolous tyre burning incident!.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple over a year ago

in Lancashire

"Mystic Meg predicted that 2 political party leaders will be gone by the autumn. My money is on Cameron and Corbyn.

How much did you lose on the number of seats UKIP would win in 2015?

None I didn't bet on it, but I did win £500 on Rule the world in the grand national yesterday.

a UKIP supporter making money from a 'foreign horse'..

principles eh..

Don't worry I won't be investing it in an offshore account in Panama.

does UKIP have an fund there too?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Mystic Meg predicted that 2 political party leaders will be gone by the autumn. My money is on Cameron and Corbyn.

How much did you lose on the number of seats UKIP would win in 2015?

None I didn't bet on it, but I did win £500 on Rule the world in the grand national yesterday.

a UKIP supporter making money from a 'foreign horse'..

principles eh..

Don't worry I won't be investing it in an offshore account in Panama.

"
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Panama is soooo last week.

It's bvi now, especially since the Tories actually signed off the paper to allow Assad's brother to move the hundreds of millions into the haven... Despite the Tory call for sanctions on Syria!!.

It's a big game, and were not in it

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Lets be honest is anyone surprised and would be where this about those on the opposition benches (which may well come to light)..

power with some corrupts, there's news eh..

we get the Politicians we deserve..

I don't think many Conservative voters will say they object to greed, deceit or hypocrisy, though. These are the traits that have drawn them to the party in the first place.

So how do you reconcile the fact that you share the same _iews on Europe as a 'filthy pig fucking crook'? (Your words not mine)

I feel fine about it, it's not in need of reconciliation.

And yet if Tory voters share some of his _iews it is because they are drawn to greed, deceit and hypocrisy.

Unbelievable

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By *dwalu2Couple over a year ago

Bristol

"Woke up to another Anti Semite story breaking regarding the Labour Party.

Then you got the other side with money and farmyard frolics.

Both as bad as each other so it's make the best out of several bad things. Can't remember a more grubbier time in Politics.

And don't get me started on UKIP.

If only the Greens became more credible.

I don't know what's worse though - the people who smear, or the people who spread the smears. They are both equally complicit.

I notice you don't comment on the Labour press release on the matter or Sadiq Khan and his badge of shame (I like him by the way)

Your tunnel vision is astounding rather than admit flaws you try to deflect.

The problem is very real.

your right it is, as is or was the issue within the Tory party last year in the Conservative future campaign and the bullying which led to a young man to take his life..

senior figures were aware well certainly warned about it and did nothing to possibly prevent it..

none of them are perfect..

It's really is astonishing!

I care because it's a personal issue to me. More deflection and twisting "

Maybe that's why you don't seem very objective about the issue? That it's a case of desperate smearing that doesn't stand up to the most cursory investigation should be obvious to people who genuinely care about the issue. But if your personal feelings are preventing you from being objective for some reason, I can understand that.

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By *dwalu2Couple over a year ago

Bristol

"Lets be honest is anyone surprised and would be where this about those on the opposition benches (which may well come to light)..

power with some corrupts, there's news eh..

we get the Politicians we deserve..

I don't think many Conservative voters will say they object to greed, deceit or hypocrisy, though. These are the traits that have drawn them to the party in the first place.

So how do you reconcile the fact that you share the same _iews on Europe as a 'filthy pig fucking crook'? (Your words not mine)

I feel fine about it, it's not in need of reconciliation.

And yet if Tory voters share some of his _iews it is because they are drawn to greed, deceit and hypocrisy.

Unbelievable

Not at all. I could never vote Conservative, for the above reasons. People who do so obviously have less qualms about greed, deceit and hypocrisy than me.

Managed to get through that article yet, by the way?

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By *entaur_UKMan over a year ago

Cannock

"Mystic Meg predicted that 2 political party leaders will be gone by the autumn. My money is on Cameron and Corbyn.

How much did you lose on the number of seats UKIP would win in 2015?

None I didn't bet on it, but I did win £500 on Rule the world in the grand national yesterday.

a UKIP supporter making money from a 'foreign horse'..

principles eh..

Don't worry I won't be investing it in an offshore account in Panama.

does UKIP have an fund there too?

They may do, just as I suspect some Labour people do (remember a story about Chukka Ummuna making money from a tax dodge).

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Woke up to another Anti Semite story breaking regarding the Labour Party.

Then you got the other side with money and farmyard frolics.

Both as bad as each other so it's make the best out of several bad things. Can't remember a more grubbier time in Politics.

And don't get me started on UKIP.

If only the Greens became more credible.

I don't know what's worse though - the people who smear, or the people who spread the smears. They are both equally complicit.

I notice you don't comment on the Labour press release on the matter or Sadiq Khan and his badge of shame (I like him by the way)

Your tunnel vision is astounding rather than admit flaws you try to deflect.

The problem is very real.

your right it is, as is or was the issue within the Tory party last year in the Conservative future campaign and the bullying which led to a young man to take his life..

senior figures were aware well certainly warned about it and did nothing to possibly prevent it..

none of them are perfect..

It's really is astonishing!

I care because it's a personal issue to me. More deflection and twisting

Oooooh lovely twist. I remain objective.

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By *dwalu2Couple over a year ago

Bristol

I desperately hope someone finds some Cameron-equivalent dirt on Chukka Umunna. He is most likely as crooked as Dave.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Lets be honest is anyone surprised and would be where this about those on the opposition benches (which may well come to light)..

power with some corrupts, there's news eh..

we get the Politicians we deserve..

I don't think many Conservative voters will say they object to greed, deceit or hypocrisy, though. These are the traits that have drawn them to the party in the first place.

So how do you reconcile the fact that you share the same _iews on Europe as a 'filthy pig fucking crook'? (Your words not mine)

I feel fine about it, it's not in need of reconciliation.

And yet if Tory voters share some of his _iews it is because they are drawn to greed, deceit and hypocrisy.

Unbelievable

You couldn't make it up could you?

I'll see your unbelievable and raise you an outstanding.

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By *dwalu2Couple over a year ago

Bristol

"Woke up to another Anti Semite story breaking regarding the Labour Party.

Then you got the other side with money and farmyard frolics.

Both as bad as each other so it's make the best out of several bad things. Can't remember a more grubbier time in Politics.

And don't get me started on UKIP.

If only the Greens became more credible.

I don't know what's worse though - the people who smear, or the people who spread the smears. They are both equally complicit.

I notice you don't comment on the Labour press release on the matter or Sadiq Khan and his badge of shame (I like him by the way)

Your tunnel vision is astounding rather than admit flaws you try to deflect.

The problem is very real.

your right it is, as is or was the issue within the Tory party last year in the Conservative future campaign and the bullying which led to a young man to take his life..

senior figures were aware well certainly warned about it and did nothing to possibly prevent it..

none of them are perfect..

It's really is astonishing!

I care because it's a personal issue to me. More deflection and twisting

Oooooh lovely twist. I remain objective. "

But you need to show yourself to be objective. Just saying you are is not the same thing, sorry.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Lets be honest is anyone surprised and would be where this about those on the opposition benches (which may well come to light)..

power with some corrupts, there's news eh..

we get the Politicians we deserve..

I don't think many Conservative voters will say they object to greed, deceit or hypocrisy, though. These are the traits that have drawn them to the party in the first place.

So how do you reconcile the fact that you share the same _iews on Europe as a 'filthy pig fucking crook'? (Your words not mine)

I feel fine about it, it's not in need of reconciliation.

And yet if Tory voters share some of his _iews it is because they are drawn to greed, deceit and hypocrisy.

Unbelievable

Not at all. I could never vote Conservative, for the above reasons. People who do so obviously have less qualms about greed, deceit and hypocrisy than me.

Managed to get through that article yet, by the way?

Yes and I still stand by what I said. Now you say in this thread the term which Labour spent in office when unemployment didn't rise?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Woke up to another Anti Semite story breaking regarding the Labour Party.

Then you got the other side with money and farmyard frolics.

Both as bad as each other so it's make the best out of several bad things. Can't remember a more grubbier time in Politics.

And don't get me started on UKIP.

If only the Greens became more credible.

I don't know what's worse though - the people who smear, or the people who spread the smears. They are both equally complicit.

I notice you don't comment on the Labour press release on the matter or Sadiq Khan and his badge of shame (I like him by the way)

Your tunnel vision is astounding rather than admit flaws you try to deflect.

The problem is very real.

your right it is, as is or was the issue within the Tory party last year in the Conservative future campaign and the bullying which led to a young man to take his life..

senior figures were aware well certainly warned about it and did nothing to possibly prevent it..

none of them are perfect..

It's really is astonishing!

I care because it's a personal issue to me. More deflection and twisting

Oooooh lovely twist. I remain objective. "

Don't know about you, but I'm always really impressed when a total stranger on the interweb tells me what my _iews, beliefs and opinions are.

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By *entaur_UKMan over a year ago

Cannock

"I desperately hope someone finds some Cameron-equivalent dirt on Chukka Umunna. He is most likely as crooked as Dave."

Was it you who left the support/hostile to Corbyn names list in the pub call me Dave got hold of?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Woke up to another Anti Semite story breaking regarding the Labour Party.

Then you got the other side with money and farmyard frolics.

Both as bad as each other so it's make the best out of several bad things. Can't remember a more grubbier time in Politics.

And don't get me started on UKIP.

If only the Greens became more credible.

I don't know what's worse though - the people who smear, or the people who spread the smears. They are both equally complicit.

I notice you don't comment on the Labour press release on the matter or Sadiq Khan and his badge of shame (I like him by the way)

Your tunnel vision is astounding rather than admit flaws you try to deflect.

The problem is very real.

your right it is, as is or was the issue within the Tory party last year in the Conservative future campaign and the bullying which led to a young man to take his life..

senior figures were aware well certainly warned about it and did nothing to possibly prevent it..

none of them are perfect..

It's really is astonishing!

I care because it's a personal issue to me. More deflection and twisting

Oooooh lovely twist. I remain objective.

But you need to show yourself to be objective. Just saying you are is not the same thing, sorry."

Ha ha the same could be said of you from the other side of the coin.

I remain objective.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Woke up to another Anti Semite story breaking regarding the Labour Party.

Then you got the other side with money and farmyard frolics.

Both as bad as each other so it's make the best out of several bad things. Can't remember a more grubbier time in Politics.

And don't get me started on UKIP.

If only the Greens became more credible.

I don't know what's worse though - the people who smear, or the people who spread the smears. They are both equally complicit.

I notice you don't comment on the Labour press release on the matter or Sadiq Khan and his badge of shame (I like him by the way)

Your tunnel vision is astounding rather than admit flaws you try to deflect.

The problem is very real.

your right it is, as is or was the issue within the Tory party last year in the Conservative future campaign and the bullying which led to a young man to take his life..

senior figures were aware well certainly warned about it and did nothing to possibly prevent it..

none of them are perfect..

It's really is astonishing!

I care because it's a personal issue to me. More deflection and twisting

Oooooh lovely twist. I remain objective.

But you need to show yourself to be objective. Just saying you are is not the same thing, sorry.

Ha ha the same could be said of you from the other side of the coin.

I remain objective. "
I was just thinking that

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By *dwalu2Couple over a year ago

Bristol

"Lets be honest is anyone surprised and would be where this about those on the opposition benches (which may well come to light)..

power with some corrupts, there's news eh..

we get the Politicians we deserve..

I don't think many Conservative voters will say they object to greed, deceit or hypocrisy, though. These are the traits that have drawn them to the party in the first place.

So how do you reconcile the fact that you share the same _iews on Europe as a 'filthy pig fucking crook'? (Your words not mine)

I feel fine about it, it's not in need of reconciliation.

And yet if Tory voters share some of his _iews it is because they are drawn to greed, deceit and hypocrisy.

Unbelievable

Not at all. I could never vote Conservative, for the above reasons. People who do so obviously have less qualms about greed, deceit and hypocrisy than me.

Managed to get through that article yet, by the way?

Yes and I still stand by what I said. Now you say in this thread the term which Labour spent in office when unemployment didn't rise?"

The administrations ending in 1924 and 1951, which you would know if you had managed to read that article.

Now you can tell me which Tory administrations managed to reduce unemployment - and I'll give you a clue, you can find the answer in that article you didn't read.

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By *dwalu2Couple over a year ago

Bristol

"Woke up to another Anti Semite story breaking regarding the Labour Party.

Then you got the other side with money and farmyard frolics.

Both as bad as each other so it's make the best out of several bad things. Can't remember a more grubbier time in Politics.

And don't get me started on UKIP.

If only the Greens became more credible.

I don't know what's worse though - the people who smear, or the people who spread the smears. They are both equally complicit.

I notice you don't comment on the Labour press release on the matter or Sadiq Khan and his badge of shame (I like him by the way)

Your tunnel vision is astounding rather than admit flaws you try to deflect.

The problem is very real.

your right it is, as is or was the issue within the Tory party last year in the Conservative future campaign and the bullying which led to a young man to take his life..

senior figures were aware well certainly warned about it and did nothing to possibly prevent it..

none of them are perfect..

It's really is astonishing!

I care because it's a personal issue to me. More deflection and twisting

Oooooh lovely twist. I remain objective.

But you need to show yourself to be objective. Just saying you are is not the same thing, sorry.

Ha ha the same could be said of you from the other side of the coin.

I remain objective. "

There is nothing I've said not borne out by fact. My objectivity is not under question.

You, on the other hand, are claiming that there is a serious problem with anti-semitism in the Labour Party. I invite you to reveal the facts that objectively prove this to be the case.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I wouldn't say David Cameron is the perfect person I'd like in charge, but I do think that he's getting so much attention when in my eyes there are far more politically damaging things going on, or things of higher societal value.

He was voted in, and the opposition is really not credible at present, it's a low point for politics I'd suggest. Need some more dynamic characters

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By *at69driveMan over a year ago

Hertford

"Following on from many comments on the David Camoron thread finishing with

Clem fandango

I want a dodgy geezer in charge who's trying to get rich. Not a socialist who things having wealth is a "bad thing".

Where does the idea that having 'dodgy dan the bookkeeper man' as your accountant and do your tax returns, or 'backstreet bert' fix the breaks on your car? Or that 'call me [I stick my prick in pigs]"we're all in this together" Dave' and his Tories (from the Irish 'tóraidhe' which means outlaw hig. hwayman) are the best people to have running the country for our benefit?

Why do so many people continue to believe contrary to all the evidence that they will be better off with corrupt self-serving crooks in charge of their money or safety?

Why do they defend those criminal parasites who are feeding on them?

And why are we so shocked when we find our pension funds coming up short, our jobs disappearing overseas along with the profits made by companies trading here and the cost of housing forcing an ever growing number out of the housing market and into overpriced sub-standard rented accommodation?"
. Hi. I don't think we have anything to worry about . He is educated , intelligent , comes from a good family background and pays a lot more in taxes than most of us . In addition he appeals to more of the electorate than any other party .

If the events of this week are the only fault that people can find with him , we are blessed to have such a great leader .

The government do not force companies to go overseas , companies make these decisions . Are you suggesting that Corporation Tax should be lowered to encourage more people to stay .

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Why do so many people continue to believe contrary to all the evidence that they will be better off with corrupt self-serving crooks in charge of their money or safety?

Why do they defend those criminal parasites who are feeding on them?"

Certainly, there is no denying that Mr Cameron was misleading in his statements. But corrupt? A crook? A pig fucker? Get a perspective.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Woke up to another Anti Semite story breaking regarding the Labour Party.

Then you got the other side with money and farmyard frolics.

Both as bad as each other so it's make the best out of several bad things. Can't remember a more grubbier time in Politics.

And don't get me started on UKIP.

If only the Greens became more credible.

I don't know what's worse though - the people who smear, or the people who spread the smears. They are both equally complicit.

I notice you don't comment on the Labour press release on the matter or Sadiq Khan and his badge of shame (I like him by the way)

Your tunnel vision is astounding rather than admit flaws you try to deflect.

The problem is very real.

your right it is, as is or was the issue within the Tory party last year in the Conservative future campaign and the bullying which led to a young man to take his life..

senior figures were aware well certainly warned about it and did nothing to possibly prevent it..

none of them are perfect..

It's really is astonishing!

I care because it's a personal issue to me. More deflection and twisting

Oooooh lovely twist. I remain objective.

But you need to show yourself to be objective. Just saying you are is not the same thing, sorry.

Ha ha the same could be said of you from the other side of the coin.

I remain objective.

There is nothing I've said not borne out by fact. My objectivity is not under question.

You, on the other hand, are claiming that there is a serious problem with anti-semitism in the Labour Party. I invite you to reveal the facts that objectively prove this to be the case."

The facts are there from the root to the fruit. From suspensions to even the co chair of the Labour Council resigning at Oxford due to the party being riddled with racisim. I won't repeat the Anne Frank tweets but it remains fact that the Labour Party on its peripheral are attracting Anti Semites who use the association as a platform. I do not however point the finger at Corbyn on this issue although he could do more. It's a serious concern that even the Board of Deputies have asked him to investigate.

That's not spin or slur. You will however seek to minimise it unless you don't think it's serious?

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By *onny bigMan over a year ago

london harrow

There all the fucking same at the end of the day, a bunch of parasites feeding off of the system they created to keep us all in debt and dumb to what's truly happening in this country as we go about are daily business ignoring the big blue, red and white dick that's being shoved up our arse's on a daily basis without even knowing it.

It's a genius system really, you got a give it to em or they'll come and fucking take it lol...

I say let common law and sense rule, not these rich pricks who truly don't give a fuck about any of us and try to fuck us every chance they get by bringing out ACTS and STATUTES that don't have the consent of the people ( like they should ) to make life more difficult rather than easier for us, it's a wonder we put up with it

Let the revolution begin

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I'm off to the walk the dogs and shoot some clays. I bid you all good day it's been fun.

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By *dwalu2Couple over a year ago

Bristol

"Woke up to another Anti Semite story breaking regarding the Labour Party.

Then you got the other side with money and farmyard frolics.

Both as bad as each other so it's make the best out of several bad things. Can't remember a more grubbier time in Politics.

And don't get me started on UKIP.

If only the Greens became more credible.

I don't know what's worse though - the people who smear, or the people who spread the smears. They are both equally complicit.

I notice you don't comment on the Labour press release on the matter or Sadiq Khan and his badge of shame (I like him by the way)

Your tunnel vision is astounding rather than admit flaws you try to deflect.

The problem is very real.

your right it is, as is or was the issue within the Tory party last year in the Conservative future campaign and the bullying which led to a young man to take his life..

senior figures were aware well certainly warned about it and did nothing to possibly prevent it..

none of them are perfect..

It's really is astonishing!

I care because it's a personal issue to me. More deflection and twisting

Oooooh lovely twist. I remain objective.

But you need to show yourself to be objective. Just saying you are is not the same thing, sorry.

Ha ha the same could be said of you from the other side of the coin.

I remain objective.

There is nothing I've said not borne out by fact. My objectivity is not under question.

You, on the other hand, are claiming that there is a serious problem with anti-semitism in the Labour Party. I invite you to reveal the facts that objectively prove this to be the case.

That's not spin or slur. You will however seek to minimise it unless you don't think it's serious? "

No, I don't think it's serious, and I find the way you have characterised the situation with several people as being characteristic in some way of a party of thousands of people as, and I'm being very charitable here, wildly over-interpreting the facts.

Here is Corbyn on Politics Home:

"We have suspended and we will suspend any member who behaves in that way. Enquiries are going on on the cases that have been referred to us. We are absolutely resolute on this. There is not place for any type of racism of any sort within our party and I will ensure that it is rooted out where it exists.

"But I have to say it is a very small number of cases over the whole country and we are dealing with it."

How that could be seen as him not doing enough about the issue, minor though it is, is anyone's guess.

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By *at69driveMan over a year ago

Hertford

"Lets be honest is anyone surprised and would be where this about those on the opposition benches (which may well come to light)..

power with some corrupts, there's news eh..

we get the Politicians we deserve..

I don't think many Conservative voters will say they object to greed, deceit or hypocrisy, though. These are the traits that have drawn them to the party in the first place."
. I don't think that Conservative voters support either greed or deceit .

People vote Conservative because they believe in a sense of responsibility and recognise that everything which you have in life has to be earned , not given to you on a plate by the government . Conservative voters will want a first class Health Service run for the benefit of the voters , not the NHS staff.

The something for nothing voter contributes nothing to society

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By *dwalu2Couple over a year ago

Bristol

"Following on from many comments on the David Camoron thread finishing with

Clem fandango

I want a dodgy geezer in charge who's trying to get rich. Not a socialist who things having wealth is a "bad thing".

Where does the idea that having 'dodgy dan the bookkeeper man' as your accountant and do your tax returns, or 'backstreet bert' fix the breaks on your car? Or that 'call me [I stick my prick in pigs]"we're all in this together" Dave' and his Tories (from the Irish 'tóraidhe' which means outlaw hig. hwayman) are the best people to have running the country for our benefit?

Why do so many people continue to believe contrary to all the evidence that they will be better off with corrupt self-serving crooks in charge of their money or safety?

Why do they defend those criminal parasites who are feeding on them?

And why are we so shocked when we find our pension funds coming up short, our jobs disappearing overseas along with the profits made by companies trading here and the cost of housing forcing an ever growing number out of the housing market and into overpriced sub-standard rented accommodation?. Hi. I don't think we have anything to worry about . He is educated , intelligent , comes from a good family background and pays a lot more in taxes than most of us . In addition he appeals to more of the electorate than any other party .

If the events of this week are the only fault that people can find with him , we are blessed to have such a great leader .

The government do not force companies to go overseas , companies make these decisions . Are you suggesting that Corporation Tax should be lowered to encourage more people to stay . "

Hey Pat, I guess you didn't hear the news that YouGove polls show Camron with a lower approval rating than Corbyn, eh? So along with everything else, you might need to rethink his appeal to the electorate!

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By *dwalu2Couple over a year ago

Bristol

"People vote Conservative because they believe in a sense of responsibility and recognise that everything which you have in life has to be earned , not given to you on a plate by the government . Conservative voters will want a first class Health Service run for the benefit of the voters , not the NHS staff.

The something for nothing voter contributes nothing to society "

Pat, you never disappoint!

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By *at69driveMan over a year ago

Hertford

"Following on from many comments on the David Camoron thread finishing with

Clem fandango

I want a dodgy geezer in charge who's trying to get rich. Not a socialist who things having wealth is a "bad thing".

Where does the idea that having 'dodgy dan the bookkeeper man' as your accountant and do your tax returns, or 'backstreet bert' fix the breaks on your car? Or that 'call me [I stick my prick in pigs]"we're all in this together" Dave' and his Tories (from the Irish 'tóraidhe' which means outlaw hig. hwayman) are the best people to have running the country for our benefit?

Why do so many people continue to believe contrary to all the evidence that they will be better off with corrupt self-serving crooks in charge of their money or safety?

Why do they defend those criminal parasites who are feeding on them?

And why are we so shocked when we find our pension funds coming up short, our jobs disappearing overseas along with the profits made by companies trading here and the cost of housing forcing an ever growing number out of the housing market and into overpriced sub-standard rented accommodation?. Hi. I don't think we have anything to worry about . He is educated , intelligent , comes from a good family background and pays a lot more in taxes than most of us . In addition he appeals to more of the electorate than any other party .

If the events of this week are the only fault that people can find with him , we are blessed to have such a great leader .

The government do not force companies to go overseas , companies make these decisions . Are you suggesting that Corporation Tax should be lowered to encourage more people to stay .

"
. I never pay too much attention to polls . The only polls that I worry about is the actual result on polling day..

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By *dwalu2Couple over a year ago

Bristol

"Following on from many comments on the David Camoron thread finishing with

Clem fandango

I want a dodgy geezer in charge who's trying to get rich. Not a socialist who things having wealth is a "bad thing".

Where does the idea that having 'dodgy dan the bookkeeper man' as your accountant and do your tax returns, or 'backstreet bert' fix the breaks on your car? Or that 'call me [I stick my prick in pigs]"we're all in this together" Dave' and his Tories (from the Irish 'tóraidhe' which means outlaw hig. hwayman) are the best people to have running the country for our benefit?

Why do so many people continue to believe contrary to all the evidence that they will be better off with corrupt self-serving crooks in charge of their money or safety?

Why do they defend those criminal parasites who are feeding on them?

And why are we so shocked when we find our pension funds coming up short, our jobs disappearing overseas along with the profits made by companies trading here and the cost of housing forcing an ever growing number out of the housing market and into overpriced sub-standard rented accommodation?. Hi. I don't think we have anything to worry about . He is educated , intelligent , comes from a good family background and pays a lot more in taxes than most of us . In addition he appeals to more of the electorate than any other party .

If the events of this week are the only fault that people can find with him , we are blessed to have such a great leader .

The government do not force companies to go overseas , companies make these decisions . Are you suggesting that Corporation Tax should be lowered to encourage more people to stay .

. I never pay too much attention to polls . The only polls that I worry about is the actual result on polling day.."

Then the best you can hope for is that Cameron's crooked stink doesn't affect whoever the poor party ends up with as leader when he goes, possibly sooner than he originally intended.

Although we can expect this all to be very big news once again in 2020.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Lets be honest is anyone surprised and would be where this about those on the opposition benches (which may well come to light)..

power with some corrupts, there's news eh..

we get the Politicians we deserve..

I don't think many Conservative voters will say they object to greed, deceit or hypocrisy, though. These are the traits that have drawn them to the party in the first place.

So how do you reconcile the fact that you share the same _iews on Europe as a 'filthy pig fucking crook'? (Your words not mine)

I feel fine about it, it's not in need of reconciliation.

And yet if Tory voters share some of his _iews it is because they are drawn to greed, deceit and hypocrisy.

Unbelievable

Not at all. I could never vote Conservative, for the above reasons. People who do so obviously have less qualms about greed, deceit and hypocrisy than me.

Managed to get through that article yet, by the way?

Yes and I still stand by what I said. Now you say in this thread the term which Labour spent in office when unemployment didn't rise?

The administrations ending in 1924 and 1951, which you would know if you had managed to read that article.

Now you can tell me which Tory administrations managed to reduce unemployment - and I'll give you a clue, you can find the answer in that article you didn't read.

That is laughable. The government of 1924 was a coalition between labour and the liberals and only lasted for 9 months. And the figures for 1945-1951 are not really a true reflection when taking into account rebuilding after the war and the numbers involved anyway. I suggest you read a less biased website

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I think so many people keep him in because women think he's sexy..

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By *at69driveMan over a year ago

Hertford

"Following on from many comments on the David Camoron thread finishing with

Clem fandango

I want a dodgy geezer in charge who's trying to get rich. Not a socialist who things having wealth is a "bad thing".

Why do so many people continue to believe contrary to all the evidence that they will be better off with corrupt self-serving crooks in charge of their money or safety?

Why do they defend those criminal parasites who are feeding on them?

And why are we so shocked when we find our pension funds coming up short, our jobs disappearing overseas along with the profits made by companies trading here and the cost of housing forcing an ever growing number out of the housing market and into overpriced sub-standard rented accommodation?"
. Which pension funds are coming up short ?. The would be the fault of the fund manager , not the government .

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By *dwalu2Couple over a year ago

Bristol

"Lets be honest is anyone surprised and would be where this about those on the opposition benches (which may well come to light)..

power with some corrupts, there's news eh..

we get the Politicians we deserve..

I don't think many Conservative voters will say they object to greed, deceit or hypocrisy, though. These are the traits that have drawn them to the party in the first place.

So how do you reconcile the fact that you share the same _iews on Europe as a 'filthy pig fucking crook'? (Your words not mine)

I feel fine about it, it's not in need of reconciliation.

And yet if Tory voters share some of his _iews it is because they are drawn to greed, deceit and hypocrisy.

Unbelievable

Not at all. I could never vote Conservative, for the above reasons. People who do so obviously have less qualms about greed, deceit and hypocrisy than me.

Managed to get through that article yet, by the way?

Yes and I still stand by what I said. Now you say in this thread the term which Labour spent in office when unemployment didn't rise?

The administrations ending in 1924 and 1951, which you would know if you had managed to read that article.

Now you can tell me which Tory administrations managed to reduce unemployment - and I'll give you a clue, you can find the answer in that article you didn't read.

You have chosen a highly selective interpretation to try and avoid the facts. That is deceitful, which should give you a clue as to why it was so natural for Grant Schapps to do exactly the same thing.

As you are here though, care to point out how many Tory administrations have reduced unemployment?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I think so many people keep him in because women think he's sexy.."
If he and Samntha had a profile on here they'd get tons on messages for meets lmao

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I think so many people keep him in because women think he's sexy.. If he and Samntha had a profile on here they'd get tons on messages for meets lmao "

maybe they are on, with false name and hidden profile

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I think so many people keep him in because women think he's sexy.. If he and Samntha had a profile on here they'd get tons on messages for meets lmao

maybe they are on, with false name and hidden profile

I'm gonna go have a look, that's a dream mmf right there

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Lets be honest is anyone surprised and would be where this about those on the opposition benches (which may well come to light)..

power with some corrupts, there's news eh..

we get the Politicians we deserve..

I don't think many Conservative voters will say they object to greed, deceit or hypocrisy, though. These are the traits that have drawn them to the party in the first place.

So how do you reconcile the fact that you share the same _iews on Europe as a 'filthy pig fucking crook'? (Your words not mine)

I feel fine about it, it's not in need of reconciliation.

And yet if Tory voters share some of his _iews it is because they are drawn to greed, deceit and hypocrisy.

Unbelievable

Not at all. I could never vote Conservative, for the above reasons. People who do so obviously have less qualms about greed, deceit and hypocrisy than me.

Managed to get through that article yet, by the way?

Yes and I still stand by what I said. Now you say in this thread the term which Labour spent in office when unemployment didn't rise?

The administrations ending in 1924 and 1951, which you would know if you had managed to read that article.

Now you can tell me which Tory administrations managed to reduce unemployment - and I'll give you a clue, you can find the answer in that article you didn't read.

As you are here though, care to point out how many Tory administrations have reduced unemployment?

Can't be arsed to look it up but if they hadn't there'd be no fucker working by now would there

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By *dwalu2Couple over a year ago

Bristol

"Lets be honest is anyone surprised and would be where this about those on the opposition benches (which may well come to light)..

power with some corrupts, there's news eh..

we get the Politicians we deserve..

I don't think many Conservative voters will say they object to greed, deceit or hypocrisy, though. These are the traits that have drawn them to the party in the first place.

So how do you reconcile the fact that you share the same _iews on Europe as a 'filthy pig fucking crook'? (Your words not mine)

I feel fine about it, it's not in need of reconciliation.

And yet if Tory voters share some of his _iews it is because they are drawn to greed, deceit and hypocrisy.

Unbelievable

Not at all. I could never vote Conservative, for the above reasons. People who do so obviously have less qualms about greed, deceit and hypocrisy than me.

Managed to get through that article yet, by the way?

Yes and I still stand by what I said. Now you say in this thread the term which Labour spent in office when unemployment didn't rise?

The administrations ending in 1924 and 1951, which you would know if you had managed to read that article.

Now you can tell me which Tory administrations managed to reduce unemployment - and I'll give you a clue, you can find the answer in that article you didn't read.

As you are here though, care to point out how many Tory administrations have reduced unemployment?

Can't be arsed to look it up but if they hadn't there'd be no fucker working by now would there

It's pretty much the same as Labour, and just as open to selective interpretation.

Of course, trying to draw a point about employment by saying 'is it more or less than when you started' is reducing an extremely nuanced economic situation down to a meaningless figure in the hope that it will impress stupid people...which is why it suited a mendacious dimbulb like Gramt Shapps to do just that.

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By *oachman 9CoolMan over a year ago

derby

"We had a democratic vote didn't we? They won? So there's not much we can do about it until the next General Election.

Edward Miliband Destroyed all Labours hope of winning;

I see Edward Miliband as a weak person who I could not see running the UK

Happily I did not have to vote for either as I am in Scotland and we have the best Party in Power, to lead Scotland

and whether you like it or not The party in power for Scotland, looks out for Scotland's interests and is doing a good job, unlike the Party in Power in Westminster"
I,m pleased scotland has their own Independence thats how it should be in my book along with the welsh, and Ireland too, we should all be separate and get on that way Its always politics that get in the way of everything and how we try and live our lives look at how europe lives theirs and they want us to be part of it through the EU ... It will be brussels who will have the last say not us in most things how in hell did it get to this state..

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Following on from many comments on the David Camoron thread finishing with

Clem fandango

I want a dodgy geezer in charge who's trying to get rich. Not a socialist who things having wealth is a "bad thing".

Why do so many people continue to believe contrary to all the evidence that they will be better off with corrupt self-serving crooks in charge of their money or safety?

Why do they defend those criminal parasites who are feeding on them?

Would you rather bring back Tony Blair? Borrow, borrow, borrow. Make no money, start a war because the people he borrowed from need back up and the give too much money to people who need assistance and puts them in a position where it's not viable for them to return to work.

As for pensions most of these are historic from the seventies. Who were in charge a lot then? Hmmm. Let me think! Why most industries that are heavily unionised are going to the wall is because of the pension payouts that were agreed many years ago and now have to be paid out.