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over a year ago
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"Amen to that.
I think his story from start to finish is intriguing , human nnn I dunno. Life sure happens."
Goes to show that drink can have a profound effect on people's lives. |
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By *al2001Man
over a year ago
kildare |
"Amen to that.
I think his story from start to finish is intriguing , human nnn I dunno. Life sure happens.
Goes to show that drink can have a profound effect on people's lives. "
According to his mothers statement but it just looks like she knew she got herself pregnant and then got herself married ASAP |
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"Amen to that.
I think his story from start to finish is intriguing , human nnn I dunno. Life sure happens.
Goes to show that drink can have a profound effect on people's lives.
According to his mothers statement but it just looks like she knew she got herself pregnant and then got herself married ASAP "
You must know that she didn't get "herself" pregnant .
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over a year ago
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"Amen to that.
I think his story from start to finish is intriguing , human nnn I dunno. Life sure happens.
Goes to show that drink can have a profound effect on people's lives.
According to his mothers statement but it just looks like she knew she got herself pregnant and then got herself married ASAP "
It takes two to tango |
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I am not just speaking of the latest episode in his life. It's all of his life from start to now and his amazing ability to shoulder and cope privately and publicly.
I have to keep adding that i'm not religious. I am touched by his story from the human angle. |
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By *al2001Man
over a year ago
kildare |
"Amen to that.
I think his story from start to finish is intriguing , human nnn I dunno. Life sure happens.
Goes to show that drink can have a profound effect on people's lives.
According to his mothers statement but it just looks like she knew she got herself pregnant and then got herself married ASAP
It takes two to tango"
It does but she was left holding the baby
I worded it wrong tho |
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"Amen to that.
I think his story from start to finish is intriguing , human nnn I dunno. Life sure happens.
Goes to show that drink can have a profound effect on people's lives.
According to his mothers statement but it just looks like she knew she got herself pregnant and then got herself married ASAP "
I wasn't particulary referring to his mothers early alcoholism although that they managed that is credit to them and their past will have influenced his life choices without a doubt.
You do know that she hasn't had a drink in decades ?
I was talking about HIM. |
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over a year ago
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"I'm not sure how I feel about this essentially private matter."
People in the public eye,especially those who preach,feel the need to open up their private lives to the public,for different reasons. |
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"I am not just speaking of the latest episode in his life. It's all of his life from start to now and his amazing ability to shoulder and cope privately and publicly.
I have to keep adding that i'm not religious. I am touched by his story from the human angle. "
I thought the same about Mary Berry when I saw the two of them talking. They both had a dignity and honesty about them when talking about their children.
I admire his ability to face life and cope with it but I have a nameless reservation about him that for the life of me I can't articulate. |
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"I'm not sure how I feel about this essentially private matter."
Oh it is definitely a private matter. Or essentially a private matter. It has ,however been widely disclosed on t.v and in newspapers.
I am developing and interest and will read all I can over the next few days.
I cannot feel negative about him or his family. I simply thought it was the stuff that fantasy is made of when I heard it yesterday. |
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over a year ago
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"Amen to that.
I think his story from start to finish is intriguing , human nnn I dunno. Life sure happens.
Goes to show that drink can have a profound effect on people's lives.
According to his mothers statement but it just looks like she knew she got herself pregnant and then got herself married ASAP
I wasn't particulary referring to his mothers early alcoholism although that they managed that is credit to them and their past will have influenced his life choices without a doubt.
You do know that she hasn't had a drink in decades ?
I was talking about HIM. "
Imagine if she hadn't been d*unk (if it's true),there would be no him. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I'm not sure how I feel about this essentially private matter.
Oh it is definitely a private matter. Or essentially a private matter. It has ,however been widely disclosed on t.v and in newspapers.
I am developing and interest and will read all I can over the next few days.
I cannot feel negative about him or his family. I simply thought it was the stuff that fantasy is made of when I heard it yesterday."
Does he have a biography out at the moment? |
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"I'm not sure how I feel about this essentially private matter.
People in the public eye,especially those who preach,feel the need to open up their private lives to the public,for different reasons. "
To be fair, it wasn't HIS life that was full of alcohol and a brief affair, it was his mothers and all of that stopped many many years ago. As far as I know she was not unfaithful during her marriage. |
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"I'm not sure how I feel about this essentially private matter.
Oh it is definitely a private matter. Or essentially a private matter. It has ,however been widely disclosed on t.v and in newspapers.
I am developing and interest and will read all I can over the next few days.
I cannot feel negative about him or his family. I simply thought it was the stuff that fantasy is made of when I heard it yesterday.
Does he have a biography out at the moment?"
No. That's pretty cynical. Although dependent on the author , if one surfaces I will read it. |
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"Amen to that.
I think his story from start to finish is intriguing , human nnn I dunno. Life sure happens.
Goes to show that drink can have a profound effect on people's lives.
According to his mothers statement but it just looks like she knew she got herself pregnant and then got herself married ASAP
I wasn't particulary referring to his mothers early alcoholism although that they managed that is credit to them and their past will have influenced his life choices without a doubt.
You do know that she hasn't had a drink in decades ?
I was talking about HIM.
Imagine if she hadn't been d*unk (if it's true),there would be no him. "
what makes you think she was d*unk when she conceived ? |
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"I'm not sure how I feel about this essentially private matter.
People in the public eye,especially those who preach,feel the need to open up their private lives to the public,for different reasons. "
In this case the reason was The Telegraph. I think (hope) that he's an absolutely honest and transparent man (as he should be) and felt that he had no reason not to open up but I wondered why it needed to be on the news etc. Mind you I'm not a Christian so he isn't important to me as a spiritual leader but must be to those that do practice. |
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"Amen to that.
I think his story from start to finish is intriguing , human nnn I dunno. Life sure happens.
Goes to show that drink can have a profound effect on people's lives.
According to his mothers statement but it just looks like she knew she got herself pregnant and then got herself married ASAP
I wasn't particulary referring to his mothers early alcoholism although that they managed that is credit to them and their past will have influenced his life choices without a doubt.
You do know that she hasn't had a drink in decades ?
I was talking about HIM.
Imagine if she hadn't been d*unk (if it's true),there would be no him.
what makes you think she was d*unk when she conceived ?"
She said she was. |
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"I am not just speaking of the latest episode in his life. It's all of his life from start to now and his amazing ability to shoulder and cope privately and publicly.
I have to keep adding that i'm not religious. I am touched by his story from the human angle.
I thought the same about Mary Berry when I saw the two of them talking. They both had a dignity and honesty about them when talking about their children.
I admire his ability to face life and cope with it but I have a nameless reservation about him that for the life of me I can't articulate."
That's interesting. Time will tell. |
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"Amen to that.
I think his story from start to finish is intriguing , human nnn I dunno. Life sure happens.
Goes to show that drink can have a profound effect on people's lives.
According to his mothers statement but it just looks like she knew she got herself pregnant and then got herself married ASAP
I wasn't particulary referring to his mothers early alcoholism although that they managed that is credit to them and their past will have influenced his life choices without a doubt.
You do know that she hasn't had a drink in decades ?
I was talking about HIM.
Imagine if she hadn't been d*unk (if it's true),there would be no him.
what makes you think she was d*unk when she conceived ?
She said she was."
When did she say that ? |
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By *al2001Man
over a year ago
kildare |
"Amen to that.
I think his story from start to finish is intriguing , human nnn I dunno. Life sure happens.
Goes to show that drink can have a profound effect on people's lives.
According to his mothers statement but it just looks like she knew she got herself pregnant and then got herself married ASAP
I wasn't particulary referring to his mothers early alcoholism although that they managed that is credit to them and their past will have influenced his life choices without a doubt.
You do know that she hasn't had a drink in decades ?
I was talking about HIM.
Imagine if she hadn't been d*unk (if it's true),there would be no him.
what makes you think she was d*unk when she conceived ?"
She said in her statement she was. Although she was hardly going to say I was sober and tried to pull the wool over mr welbys eyes |
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"Amen to that.
I think his story from start to finish is intriguing , human nnn I dunno. Life sure happens.
Goes to show that drink can have a profound effect on people's lives.
According to his mothers statement but it just looks like she knew she got herself pregnant and then got herself married ASAP
I wasn't particulary referring to his mothers early alcoholism although that they managed that is credit to them and their past will have influenced his life choices without a doubt.
You do know that she hasn't had a drink in decades ?
I was talking about HIM.
Imagine if she hadn't been d*unk (if it's true),there would be no him.
what makes you think she was d*unk when she conceived ?
She said in her statement she was. Although she was hardly going to say I was sober and tried to pull the wool over mr welbys eyes"
Did she put it forward as an excuse for sex before marriage ? |
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"I am not just speaking of the latest episode in his life. It's all of his life from start to now and his amazing ability to shoulder and cope privately and publicly.
I have to keep adding that i'm not religious. I am touched by his story from the human angle.
I thought the same about Mary Berry when I saw the two of them talking. They both had a dignity and honesty about them when talking about their children.
I admire his ability to face life and cope with it but I have a nameless reservation about him that for the life of me I can't articulate.
That's interesting. Time will tell. "
Possibly and I hope it proves me to have an over active imagination. |
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By *al2001Man
over a year ago
kildare |
"Amen to that.
I think his story from start to finish is intriguing , human nnn I dunno. Life sure happens.
Goes to show that drink can have a profound effect on people's lives.
According to his mothers statement but it just looks like she knew she got herself pregnant and then got herself married ASAP
I wasn't particulary referring to his mothers early alcoholism although that they managed that is credit to them and their past will have influenced his life choices without a doubt.
You do know that she hasn't had a drink in decades ?
I was talking about HIM.
Imagine if she hadn't been d*unk (if it's true),there would be no him.
what makes you think she was d*unk when she conceived ?
She said in her statement she was. Although she was hardly going to say I was sober and tried to pull the wool over mr welbys eyes
Did she put it forward as an excuse for sex before marriage ?"
Not the sex part just the deceit |
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"Amen to that.
I think his story from start to finish is intriguing , human nnn I dunno. Life sure happens.
Goes to show that drink can have a profound effect on people's lives.
According to his mothers statement but it just looks like she knew she got herself pregnant and then got herself married ASAP
I wasn't particulary referring to his mothers early alcoholism although that they managed that is credit to them and their past will have influenced his life choices without a doubt.
You do know that she hasn't had a drink in decades ?
I was talking about HIM.
Imagine if she hadn't been d*unk (if it's true),there would be no him.
what makes you think she was d*unk when she conceived ?
She said she was.
When did she say that ?"
Her statement was worded in such a way to suggest that she was and that nobody had suspected until the wife of the late Sir Anthony Montague Browne noticed a striking resemblance between Justin Welsby and him. |
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"Amen to that.
I think his story from start to finish is intriguing , human nnn I dunno. Life sure happens.
Goes to show that drink can have a profound effect on people's lives.
According to his mothers statement but it just looks like she knew she got herself pregnant and then got herself married ASAP
I wasn't particulary referring to his mothers early alcoholism although that they managed that is credit to them and their past will have influenced his life choices without a doubt.
You do know that she hasn't had a drink in decades ?
I was talking about HIM.
Imagine if she hadn't been d*unk (if it's true),there would be no him.
what makes you think she was d*unk when she conceived ?
She said in her statement she was. Although she was hardly going to say I was sober and tried to pull the wool over mr welbys eyes
Did she put it forward as an excuse for sex before marriage ?
Not the sex part just the deceit "
I'm not sure she did deceive. Their son was born 9 months after her marriage which although quite hasty wouldn't give much time to even discover she was pregnant. |
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By *al2001Man
over a year ago
kildare |
"Amen to that.
I think his story from start to finish is intriguing , human nnn I dunno. Life sure happens.
Goes to show that drink can have a profound effect on people's lives.
According to his mothers statement but it just looks like she knew she got herself pregnant and then got herself married ASAP
I wasn't particulary referring to his mothers early alcoholism although that they managed that is credit to them and their past will have influenced his life choices without a doubt.
You do know that she hasn't had a drink in decades ?
I was talking about HIM.
Imagine if she hadn't been d*unk (if it's true),there would be no him.
what makes you think she was d*unk when she conceived ?
She said in her statement she was. Although she was hardly going to say I was sober and tried to pull the wool over mr welbys eyes
Did she put it forward as an excuse for sex before marriage ?
Not the sex part just the deceit
I'm not sure she did deceive. Their son was born 9 months after her marriage which although quite hasty wouldn't give much time to even discover she was pregnant."
A lot of the time women just know as soon as there pregnant |
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"Amen to that.
I think his story from start to finish is intriguing , human nnn I dunno. Life sure happens.
Goes to show that drink can have a profound effect on people's lives.
According to his mothers statement but it just looks like she knew she got herself pregnant and then got herself married ASAP
I wasn't particulary referring to his mothers early alcoholism although that they managed that is credit to them and their past will have influenced his life choices without a doubt.
You do know that she hasn't had a drink in decades ?
I was talking about HIM.
Imagine if she hadn't been d*unk (if it's true),there would be no him.
what makes you think she was d*unk when she conceived ?
She said she was.
When did she say that ?
Her statement was worded in such a way to suggest that she was and that nobody had suspected until the wife of the late Sir Anthony Montague Browne noticed a striking resemblance between Justin Welsby and him. "
The resemblance is such that it's unbelievable no one said a long time ago.
Bit like .......... a very well known monarch. |
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"Amen to that.
I think his story from start to finish is intriguing , human nnn I dunno. Life sure happens.
Goes to show that drink can have a profound effect on people's lives.
According to his mothers statement but it just looks like she knew she got herself pregnant and then got herself married ASAP
I wasn't particulary referring to his mothers early alcoholism although that they managed that is credit to them and their past will have influenced his life choices without a doubt.
You do know that she hasn't had a drink in decades ?
I was talking about HIM.
Imagine if she hadn't been d*unk (if it's true),there would be no him.
what makes you think she was d*unk when she conceived ?
She said she was.
When did she say that ?
Her statement was worded in such a way to suggest that she was and that nobody had suspected until the wife of the late Sir Anthony Montague Browne noticed a striking resemblance between Justin Welsby and him.
The resemblance is such that it's unbelievable no one said a long time ago.
Bit like .......... a very well known monarch."
What are you saying Granny!?
He does resemble his Colin Welsby slightly too.
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I'm not sure how I feel about this essentially private matter.
Oh it is definitely a private matter. Or essentially a private matter. It has ,however been widely disclosed on t.v and in newspapers.
I am developing and interest and will read all I can over the next few days.
I cannot feel negative about him or his family. I simply thought it was the stuff that fantasy is made of when I heard it yesterday.
Does he have a biography out at the moment?
No. That's pretty cynical. Although dependent on the author , if one surfaces I will read it. "
I was curious because I'd like to read it. I don't usually read biogs. |
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"I'm not sure how I feel about this essentially private matter.
Oh it is definitely a private matter. Or essentially a private matter. It has ,however been widely disclosed on t.v and in newspapers.
I am developing and interest and will read all I can over the next few days.
I cannot feel negative about him or his family. I simply thought it was the stuff that fantasy is made of when I heard it yesterday.
Does he have a biography out at the moment?
No. That's pretty cynical. Although dependent on the author , if one surfaces I will read it.
I was curious because I'd like to read it. I don't usually read biogs."
Ah. I thought you meant he was after the bucks..... Someone must have written something or will do soon.
I'm going to check. |
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"Just found one on Amazon. Written 2014 , called The Road to Cantebury.
I wonder what it reads like.
SOMEONE BUY IT FOR ME FOR AN EARLY CHRISTMAS. "
He should re-release it with an extra chapter regarding his recent revelation. |
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"Maybe it's because of our proximity to Canterbury but his history (apart from this most recent revelation) isn't news to me and I'm not au fait with religious affairs at all. "
I knew a little of him but not much. What first interested me was watching a programme about 3-4 years ago about mental illness. There was a girl talking candidly about her expriences as a sufferer. She was childlike, fun, intelligent , charming...... and casually dropped in that her dad was the ABC...... |
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"Just found one on Amazon. Written 2014 , called The Road to Cantebury.
I wonder what it reads like.
SOMEONE BUY IT FOR ME FOR AN EARLY CHRISTMAS.
He should re-release it with an extra chapter regarding his recent revelation. "
I'll leave that version to Geoffrey Archer ...... |
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"You wait 500 years for a decent prelate and then two come along at once!
Tbh, I thought it was shitty the way the story was broken.
Imagine if some journos did that to you?"
That's what journalists do though. How they sniffed this story out I don't know. |
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"You wait 500 years for a decent prelate and then two come along at once!
Tbh, I thought it was shitty the way the story was broken.
Imagine if some journos did that to you?
That's what journalists do though. How they sniffed this story out I don't know. "
There have been rumours for years tbh. And considering his childhood, upbringing, death of his son, schism in the Anglican Communion, this is probably well within his mind to cope with.
I don't like the story though |
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"You wait 500 years for a decent prelate and then two come along at once!
Tbh, I thought it was shitty the way the story was broken.
Imagine if some journos did that to you?
That's what journalists do though. How they sniffed this story out I don't know. "
it does seem a bit strange unless quelle surprise its a bit of an attempt from someone within his clergy who doesn't like the way he's taking the church (which is all speculation as i don't know anything about that branch of religion)
there was an article on R4 a while ago where the number of children raised in a relationship with a different biological father was about 11% as i recall..
so its not a surprise that that is across most strata's of society..
he looks to be ok with it.. |
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
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"I know very little about the story just read an article but did wonder why did the paper run with the story
Seems a private affair rather than public interest"
because there was a bit in old canon law that in theory said that a illigitimate child is not allowed to be an archbishop.... and it scared the palace of westminster enough that they had to go back and check (that clause was only taken out 30 years ago)
but you have to believe he asked his mother if there was any truth to this before he agreed to have the test.... and obviously if it wasn't true then the newspapers couldn't run it....
so in effect him announcing it gets in front of any newspaper scoop and he gets to own the story... |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Is this scenario what his (ABC) faith is founded on? Mum conceives via someone else only for the child to be brought up by another?
Could he be the new messiah or is he just a naughty boy!
I suppose the ABC like us all at some point has a cross to bare ooops no pun intended! |
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"Is this scenario what his (ABC) faith is founded on? Mum conceives via someone else only for the child to be brought up by another?
Could he be the new messiah or is he just a naughty boy!
I suppose the ABC like us all at some point has a cross to bare ooops no pun intended!"
What are you saying about the 'virgin'Mary ?
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"Is this scenario what his (ABC) faith is founded on? Mum conceives via someone else only for the child to be brought up by another?
Could he be the new messiah or is he just a naughty boy!
I suppose the ABC like us all at some point has a cross to bare ooops no pun intended!
What are you saying about the 'virgin'Mary ?
" That she probably wasn't a virgin? |
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