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"Why ???" To cost the taxpayer more money? | |||
"Why ??? To cost the taxpayer more money? " Ok now I understand  | |||
"If you should happen to get a little story book through your letter box from the lovely gent in Downing Street, that tries to tell you what you want, you might like to pop it into an unstamped envelope and return to tory HQ. Just saying... "Or you could read it and learn something. Just saying... | |||
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"If you should happen to get a little story book through your letter box from the lovely gent in Downing Street, that tries to tell you what you want, you might like to pop it into an unstamped envelope and return to tory HQ. Just saying...
Or you could read it and learn something.
Just saying...
"Learn what? I assume most people have already heard the government line. Unless you are planning a barbecue or are in need of a a fire lighter, I can't see that this publication will be of benefit. P.S. I understand it is too shiny to be of benefit in the little room. | |||
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"The reason they have put it on a leaflet rather than the television is that it is widely recognised that leafletting is the most cost effective form of political campaigning." Well, £9.3m of our money seems a rather steep price to pay to learn nothing more than has been available on TV/radio/media for months. If Mr Cameron deems it important to get his message across, he can use his own fucking money to do so. | |||
"The reason they have put it on a leaflet rather than the television is that it is widely recognised that leafletting is the most cost effective form of political campaigning. Well, £9.3m of our money seems a rather steep price to pay to learn nothing more than has been available on TV/radio/media for months. If Mr Cameron deems it important to get his message across, he can use his own fucking money to do so." You seem pretty confident that everybody knows this information. Let's face it, there are millions of morons in this country - which explains the popularity of Brexit. I'm more than happy for the government to spend millions of pounds of public money sealing them into their homes on voting day if that's what it takes to prevent them from ruining the future of the UK. Considering what we waste every single day in myriad ways, nine million pounds is a pittance. | |||
"The reason they have put it on a leaflet rather than the television is that it is widely recognised that leafletting is the most cost effective form of political campaigning. Well, £9.3m of our money seems a rather steep price to pay to learn nothing more than has been available on TV/radio/media for months. If Mr Cameron deems it important to get his message across, he can use his own fucking money to do so. You seem pretty confident that everybody knows this information. Let's face it, there are millions of morons in this country - which explains the popularity of Brexit. I'm more than happy for the government to spend millions of pounds of public money sealing them into their homes on voting day if that's what it takes to prevent them from ruining the future of the UK. Considering what we waste every single day in myriad ways, nine million pounds is a pittance. " One of those ways being the ridiculous sums going to the European Union. | |||
"The reason they have put it on a leaflet rather than the television is that it is widely recognised that leafletting is the most cost effective form of political campaigning. Well, £9.3m of our money seems a rather steep price to pay to learn nothing more than has been available on TV/radio/media for months. If Mr Cameron deems it important to get his message across, he can use his own fucking money to do so. You seem pretty confident that everybody knows this information. Let's face it, there are millions of morons in this country - which explains the popularity of Brexit. I'm more than happy for the government to spend millions of pounds of public money sealing them into their homes on voting day if that's what it takes to prevent them from ruining the future of the UK. Considering what we waste every single day in myriad ways, nine million pounds is a pittance. " You mean that you are happy for Mr Cameron to spend millions of pounds promoting the Stay argument, because you agree with that argument. He is not promoting facts. He is promoting his view on the facts. At our expense. Had it been a, "On the one side, some say ... But on the other side, some say ..." type of publication, there might have been some merit in it. But crap like, "It makes our borders more secure?" Do you really think that people are stupid? Stupid enough to swallow that? I hope not. | |||
"Why ??? To cost the taxpayer more money? Ok now I understand "To show the old boys club how many of us do want to leave and resent our taxes going to their spin, and sending them to tory HQ will cost them the postage rather than to Downing Street where the taxpayer funded mail room will ensure Mr. C. isn't any the wiser. | |||
"The reason they have put it on a leaflet rather than the television is that it is widely recognised that leafletting is the most cost effective form of political campaigning. Well, £9.3m of our money seems a rather steep price to pay to learn nothing more than has been available on TV/radio/media for months. If Mr Cameron deems it important to get his message across, he can use his own fucking money to do so. You seem pretty confident that everybody knows this information. Let's face it, there are millions of morons in this country - which explains the popularity of Brexit. I'm more than happy for the government to spend millions of pounds of public money sealing them into their homes on voting day if that's what it takes to prevent them from ruining the future of the UK. Considering what we waste every single day in myriad ways, nine million pounds is a pittance. You mean that you are happy for Mr Cameron to spend millions of pounds promoting the Stay argument, because you agree with that argument. He is not promoting facts. He is promoting his view on the facts. At our expense. Had it been a, "On the one side, some say ... But on the other side, some say ..." type of publication, there might have been some merit in it. But crap like, "It makes our borders more secure?" Do you really think that people are stupid? Stupid enough to swallow that? I hope not." I'm sorry mate but those in the stay campaign are so up their own arses that they DO think that. | |||
"The reason they have put it on a leaflet rather than the television is that it is widely recognised that leafletting is the most cost effective form of political campaigning. Well, £9.3m of our money seems a rather steep price to pay to learn nothing more than has been available on TV/radio/media for months. If Mr Cameron deems it important to get his message across, he can use his own fucking money to do so. You seem pretty confident that everybody knows this information. Let's face it, there are millions of morons in this country - which explains the popularity of Brexit. I'm more than happy for the government to spend millions of pounds of public money sealing them into their homes on voting day if that's what it takes to prevent them from ruining the future of the UK. Considering what we waste every single day in myriad ways, nine million pounds is a pittance. You mean that you are happy for Mr Cameron to spend millions of pounds promoting the Stay argument, because you agree with that argument. He is not promoting facts. He is promoting his view on the facts. At our expense. Had it been a, "On the one side, some say ... But on the other side, some say ..." type of publication, there might have been some merit in it. But crap like, "It makes our borders more secure?" Do you really think that people are stupid? Stupid enough to swallow that? I hope not." I'm tempted to vote for exit just because it's what he doesn't want. After this, trying to peddle us a load more crap, I'm even more tempted. I was going to vote stay. I'm now in the undecided camp. This may swing it. Then again, Boris and Odious Duncan Smith want us to leave. I want them all to lose. | |||
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"He has stated his case of wanting to stay in the eu However I would have liked to have seen a more balanced view of pros and cons And then some opinions on the most important pros and cons Just be grateful we don't have the euro currency" It is not just that he has stated his case of wanting to stay. It is that he has done it at a cost to us of £9.3m. (And, quite frankly, has done a piss poor job of it at the same time). | |||
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"The reason they have put it on a leaflet rather than the television is that it is widely recognised that leafletting is the most cost effective form of political campaigning. Well, £9.3m of our money seems a rather steep price to pay to learn nothing more than has been available on TV/radio/media for months. If Mr Cameron deems it important to get his message across, he can use his own fucking money to do so. You seem pretty confident that everybody knows this information. Let's face it, there are millions of morons in this country - which explains the popularity of Brexit. I'm more than happy for the government to spend millions of pounds of public money sealing them into their homes on voting day if that's what it takes to prevent them from ruining the future of the UK. Considering what we waste every single day in myriad ways, nine million pounds is a pittance. You mean that you are happy for Mr Cameron to spend millions of pounds promoting the Stay argument, because you agree with that argument. He is not promoting facts. He is promoting his view on the facts. At our expense. Had it been a, "On the one side, some say ... But on the other side, some say ..." type of publication, there might have been some merit in it. But crap like, "It makes our borders more secure?" Do you really think that people are stupid? Stupid enough to swallow that? I hope not." The fact is it does. Personally speaking, I detest Cameron...and all other Tories. But I see no reason why the government should pander to the fantasies of the Monster Raving Brexiters by watering down the facts to pander to their feverish view of the world. | |||
"The reason they have put it on a leaflet rather than the television is that it is widely recognised that leafletting is the most cost effective form of political campaigning. Well, £9.3m of our money seems a rather steep price to pay to learn nothing more than has been available on TV/radio/media for months. If Mr Cameron deems it important to get his message across, he can use his own fucking money to do so. You seem pretty confident that everybody knows this information. Let's face it, there are millions of morons in this country - which explains the popularity of Brexit. I'm more than happy for the government to spend millions of pounds of public money sealing them into their homes on voting day if that's what it takes to prevent them from ruining the future of the UK. Considering what we waste every single day in myriad ways, nine million pounds is a pittance. You mean that you are happy for Mr Cameron to spend millions of pounds promoting the Stay argument, because you agree with that argument. He is not promoting facts. He is promoting his view on the facts. At our expense. Had it been a, "On the one side, some say ... But on the other side, some say ..." type of publication, there might have been some merit in it. But crap like, "It makes our borders more secure?" Do you really think that people are stupid? Stupid enough to swallow that? I hope not. The fact is it does. Personally speaking, I detest Cameron...and all other Tories. But I see no reason why the government should pander to the fantasies of the Monster Raving Brexiters by watering down the facts to pander to their feverish view of the world." Personally speaking I think you must have a feverish view of the world if you think staying in is a good idea | |||
"The reason they have put it on a leaflet rather than the television is that it is widely recognised that leafletting is the most cost effective form of political campaigning. Well, £9.3m of our money seems a rather steep price to pay to learn nothing more than has been available on TV/radio/media for months. If Mr Cameron deems it important to get his message across, he can use his own fucking money to do so. You seem pretty confident that everybody knows this information. Let's face it, there are millions of morons in this country - which explains the popularity of Brexit. I'm more than happy for the government to spend millions of pounds of public money sealing them into their homes on voting day if that's what it takes to prevent them from ruining the future of the UK. Considering what we waste every single day in myriad ways, nine million pounds is a pittance. You mean that you are happy for Mr Cameron to spend millions of pounds promoting the Stay argument, because you agree with that argument. He is not promoting facts. He is promoting his view on the facts. At our expense. Had it been a, "On the one side, some say ... But on the other side, some say ..." type of publication, there might have been some merit in it. But crap like, "It makes our borders more secure?" Do you really think that people are stupid? Stupid enough to swallow that? I hope not. The fact is it does. Personally speaking, I detest Cameron...and all other Tories. But I see no reason why the government should pander to the fantasies of the Monster Raving Brexiters by watering down the facts to pander to their feverish view of the world. Personally speaking I think you must have a feverish view of the world if you think staying in is a good idea" I invite you to explain why it is not. | |||
"The reason they have put it on a leaflet rather than the television is that it is widely recognised that leafletting is the most cost effective form of political campaigning. Well, £9.3m of our money seems a rather steep price to pay to learn nothing more than has been available on TV/radio/media for months. If Mr Cameron deems it important to get his message across, he can use his own fucking money to do so. You seem pretty confident that everybody knows this information. Let's face it, there are millions of morons in this country - which explains the popularity of Brexit. I'm more than happy for the government to spend millions of pounds of public money sealing them into their homes on voting day if that's what it takes to prevent them from ruining the future of the UK. Considering what we waste every single day in myriad ways, nine million pounds is a pittance. You mean that you are happy for Mr Cameron to spend millions of pounds promoting the Stay argument, because you agree with that argument. He is not promoting facts. He is promoting his view on the facts. At our expense. Had it been a, "On the one side, some say ... But on the other side, some say ..." type of publication, there might have been some merit in it. But crap like, "It makes our borders more secure?" Do you really think that people are stupid? Stupid enough to swallow that? I hope not. The fact is it does. Personally speaking, I detest Cameron...and all other Tories. But I see no reason why the government should pander to the fantasies of the Monster Raving Brexiters by watering down the facts to pander to their feverish view of the world. Personally speaking I think you must have a feverish view of the world if you think staying in is a good idea I invite you to explain why it is not." There isn't enough room in the forum. But when you have to resort to insulting people you have already lost your argument | |||
"The reason they have put it on a leaflet rather than the television is that it is widely recognised that leafletting is the most cost effective form of political campaigning. Well, £9.3m of our money seems a rather steep price to pay to learn nothing more than has been available on TV/radio/media for months. If Mr Cameron deems it important to get his message across, he can use his own fucking money to do so. You seem pretty confident that everybody knows this information. Let's face it, there are millions of morons in this country - which explains the popularity of Brexit. I'm more than happy for the government to spend millions of pounds of public money sealing them into their homes on voting day if that's what it takes to prevent them from ruining the future of the UK. Considering what we waste every single day in myriad ways, nine million pounds is a pittance. You mean that you are happy for Mr Cameron to spend millions of pounds promoting the Stay argument, because you agree with that argument. He is not promoting facts. He is promoting his view on the facts. At our expense. Had it been a, "On the one side, some say ... But on the other side, some say ..." type of publication, there might have been some merit in it. But crap like, "It makes our borders more secure?" Do you really think that people are stupid? Stupid enough to swallow that? I hope not. The fact is it does. Personally speaking, I detest Cameron...and all other Tories. But I see no reason why the government should pander to the fantasies of the Monster Raving Brexiters by watering down the facts to pander to their feverish view of the world. Personally speaking I think you must have a feverish view of the world if you think staying in is a good idea I invite you to explain why it is not." And I invite you to explain why it is. P.S. You could just retype the leaflet. It is clearly based on fact and not opinion. | |||
"The reason they have put it on a leaflet rather than the television is that it is widely recognised that leafletting is the most cost effective form of political campaigning. Well, £9.3m of our money seems a rather steep price to pay to learn nothing more than has been available on TV/radio/media for months. If Mr Cameron deems it important to get his message across, he can use his own fucking money to do so. You seem pretty confident that everybody knows this information. Let's face it, there are millions of morons in this country - which explains the popularity of Brexit. I'm more than happy for the government to spend millions of pounds of public money sealing them into their homes on voting day if that's what it takes to prevent them from ruining the future of the UK. Considering what we waste every single day in myriad ways, nine million pounds is a pittance. You mean that you are happy for Mr Cameron to spend millions of pounds promoting the Stay argument, because you agree with that argument. He is not promoting facts. He is promoting his view on the facts. At our expense. Had it been a, "On the one side, some say ... But on the other side, some say ..." type of publication, there might have been some merit in it. But crap like, "It makes our borders more secure?" Do you really think that people are stupid? Stupid enough to swallow that? I hope not. The fact is it does. Personally speaking, I detest Cameron...and all other Tories. But I see no reason why the government should pander to the fantasies of the Monster Raving Brexiters by watering down the facts to pander to their feverish view of the world. Personally speaking I think you must have a feverish view of the world if you think staying in is a good idea I invite you to explain why it is not. There isn't enough room in the forum. But when you have to resort to insulting people you have already lost your argument" No one has been insulted. On the other hand, one thing I've noticed amongst people who support leaving the EU both here and elsewhere is an inability to articulate why. | |||
"If you should happen to get a little story book through your letter box from the lovely gent in Downing Street, that tries to tell you what you want, you might like to pop it into an unstamped envelope and return to tory HQ. Just saying... "So they can use even more taxpayers money on the unpaid postage?! Good plan | |||
"The reason they have put it on a leaflet rather than the television is that it is widely recognised that leafletting is the most cost effective form of political campaigning. Well, £9.3m of our money seems a rather steep price to pay to learn nothing more than has been available on TV/radio/media for months. If Mr Cameron deems it important to get his message across, he can use his own fucking money to do so. You seem pretty confident that everybody knows this information. Let's face it, there are millions of morons in this country - which explains the popularity of Brexit. I'm more than happy for the government to spend millions of pounds of public money sealing them into their homes on voting day if that's what it takes to prevent them from ruining the future of the UK. Considering what we waste every single day in myriad ways, nine million pounds is a pittance. You mean that you are happy for Mr Cameron to spend millions of pounds promoting the Stay argument, because you agree with that argument. He is not promoting facts. He is promoting his view on the facts. At our expense. Had it been a, "On the one side, some say ... But on the other side, some say ..." type of publication, there might have been some merit in it. But crap like, "It makes our borders more secure?" Do you really think that people are stupid? Stupid enough to swallow that? I hope not. The fact is it does. Personally speaking, I detest Cameron...and all other Tories. But I see no reason why the government should pander to the fantasies of the Monster Raving Brexiters by watering down the facts to pander to their feverish view of the world. Personally speaking I think you must have a feverish view of the world if you think staying in is a good idea I invite you to explain why it is not. There isn't enough room in the forum. But when you have to resort to insulting people you have already lost your argument No one has been insulted. On the other hand, one thing I've noticed amongst people who support leaving the EU both here and elsewhere is an inability to articulate why." Well, I have not been impressed by your articulation or that of Mr Cameron. | |||
"The reason they have put it on a leaflet rather than the television is that it is widely recognised that leafletting is the most cost effective form of political campaigning. Well, £9.3m of our money seems a rather steep price to pay to learn nothing more than has been available on TV/radio/media for months. If Mr Cameron deems it important to get his message across, he can use his own fucking money to do so. You seem pretty confident that everybody knows this information. Let's face it, there are millions of morons in this country - which explains the popularity of Brexit. I'm more than happy for the government to spend millions of pounds of public money sealing them into their homes on voting day if that's what it takes to prevent them from ruining the future of the UK. Considering what we waste every single day in myriad ways, nine million pounds is a pittance. You mean that you are happy for Mr Cameron to spend millions of pounds promoting the Stay argument, because you agree with that argument. He is not promoting facts. He is promoting his view on the facts. At our expense. Had it been a, "On the one side, some say ... But on the other side, some say ..." type of publication, there might have been some merit in it. But crap like, "It makes our borders more secure?" Do you really think that people are stupid? Stupid enough to swallow that? I hope not. The fact is it does. Personally speaking, I detest Cameron...and all other Tories. But I see no reason why the government should pander to the fantasies of the Monster Raving Brexiters by watering down the facts to pander to their feverish view of the world. Personally speaking I think you must have a feverish view of the world if you think staying in is a good idea I invite you to explain why it is not. There isn't enough room in the forum. But when you have to resort to insulting people you have already lost your argument No one has been insulted. On the other hand, one thing I've noticed amongst people who support leaving the EU both here and elsewhere is an inability to articulate why." So what is a monster raving brexiter? ok, give us one, just one good reason for staying in? | |||
"The reason they have put it on a leaflet rather than the television is that it is widely recognised that leafletting is the most cost effective form of political campaigning. Well, £9.3m of our money seems a rather steep price to pay to learn nothing more than has been available on TV/radio/media for months. If Mr Cameron deems it important to get his message across, he can use his own fucking money to do so. You seem pretty confident that everybody knows this information. Let's face it, there are millions of morons in this country - which explains the popularity of Brexit. I'm more than happy for the government to spend millions of pounds of public money sealing them into their homes on voting day if that's what it takes to prevent them from ruining the future of the UK. Considering what we waste every single day in myriad ways, nine million pounds is a pittance. You mean that you are happy for Mr Cameron to spend millions of pounds promoting the Stay argument, because you agree with that argument. He is not promoting facts. He is promoting his view on the facts. At our expense. Had it been a, "On the one side, some say ... But on the other side, some say ..." type of publication, there might have been some merit in it. But crap like, "It makes our borders more secure?" Do you really think that people are stupid? Stupid enough to swallow that? I hope not. The fact is it does. Personally speaking, I detest Cameron...and all other Tories. But I see no reason why the government should pander to the fantasies of the Monster Raving Brexiters by watering down the facts to pander to their feverish view of the world. Personally speaking I think you must have a feverish view of the world if you think staying in is a good idea I invite you to explain why it is not. There isn't enough room in the forum. But when you have to resort to insulting people you have already lost your argument No one has been insulted. On the other hand, one thing I've noticed amongst people who support leaving the EU both here and elsewhere is an inability to articulate why. Well, I have not been impressed by your articulation or that of Mr Cameron." Go ahead then, feel free to give it a shot yourself - if you can come up with anything more nuanced than 'I don't like Brussels telling me what to do' you will earn my genuine respect. | |||
"The reason they have put it on a leaflet rather than the television is that it is widely recognised that leafletting is the most cost effective form of political campaigning. Well, £9.3m of our money seems a rather steep price to pay to learn nothing more than has been available on TV/radio/media for months. If Mr Cameron deems it important to get his message across, he can use his own fucking money to do so. You seem pretty confident that everybody knows this information. Let's face it, there are millions of morons in this country - which explains the popularity of Brexit. I'm more than happy for the government to spend millions of pounds of public money sealing them into their homes on voting day if that's what it takes to prevent them from ruining the future of the UK. Considering what we waste every single day in myriad ways, nine million pounds is a pittance. You mean that you are happy for Mr Cameron to spend millions of pounds promoting the Stay argument, because you agree with that argument. He is not promoting facts. He is promoting his view on the facts. At our expense. Had it been a, "On the one side, some say ... But on the other side, some say ..." type of publication, there might have been some merit in it. But crap like, "It makes our borders more secure?" Do you really think that people are stupid? Stupid enough to swallow that? I hope not. The fact is it does. Personally speaking, I detest Cameron...and all other Tories. But I see no reason why the government should pander to the fantasies of the Monster Raving Brexiters by watering down the facts to pander to their feverish view of the world. Personally speaking I think you must have a feverish view of the world if you think staying in is a good idea I invite you to explain why it is not. There isn't enough room in the forum. But when you have to resort to insulting people you have already lost your argument No one has been insulted. On the other hand, one thing I've noticed amongst people who support leaving the EU both here and elsewhere is an inability to articulate why. So what is a monster raving brexiter? ok, give us one, just one good reason for staying in?" European law is the strongest protection for worker safety that we have, and our own government would take the opportunity to make workers less safe to save businesses money the second we leave. It's very simple. | |||
"The reason they have put it on a leaflet rather than the television is that it is widely recognised that leafletting is the most cost effective form of political campaigning. Well, £9.3m of our money seems a rather steep price to pay to learn nothing more than has been available on TV/radio/media for months. If Mr Cameron deems it important to get his message across, he can use his own fucking money to do so. You seem pretty confident that everybody knows this information. Let's face it, there are millions of morons in this country - which explains the popularity of Brexit. I'm more than happy for the government to spend millions of pounds of public money sealing them into their homes on voting day if that's what it takes to prevent them from ruining the future of the UK. Considering what we waste every single day in myriad ways, nine million pounds is a pittance. You mean that you are happy for Mr Cameron to spend millions of pounds promoting the Stay argument, because you agree with that argument. He is not promoting facts. He is promoting his view on the facts. At our expense. Had it been a, "On the one side, some say ... But on the other side, some say ..." type of publication, there might have been some merit in it. But crap like, "It makes our borders more secure?" Do you really think that people are stupid? Stupid enough to swallow that? I hope not. The fact is it does. Personally speaking, I detest Cameron...and all other Tories. But I see no reason why the government should pander to the fantasies of the Monster Raving Brexiters by watering down the facts to pander to their feverish view of the world. Personally speaking I think you must have a feverish view of the world if you think staying in is a good idea I invite you to explain why it is not. There isn't enough room in the forum. But when you have to resort to insulting people you have already lost your argument No one has been insulted. On the other hand, one thing I've noticed amongst people who support leaving the EU both here and elsewhere is an inability to articulate why. So what is a monster raving brexiter? ok, give us one, just one good reason for staying in? European law is the strongest protection for worker safety that we have, and our own government would take the opportunity to make workers less safe to save businesses money the second we leave. It's very simple." Yes, and they'd send children up chimneys | |||
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"The reason they have put it on a leaflet rather than the television is that it is widely recognised that leafletting is the most cost effective form of political campaigning. Well, £9.3m of our money seems a rather steep price to pay to learn nothing more than has been available on TV/radio/media for months. If Mr Cameron deems it important to get his message across, he can use his own fucking money to do so. You seem pretty confident that everybody knows this information. Let's face it, there are millions of morons in this country - which explains the popularity of Brexit. I'm more than happy for the government to spend millions of pounds of public money sealing them into their homes on voting day if that's what it takes to prevent them from ruining the future of the UK. Considering what we waste every single day in myriad ways, nine million pounds is a pittance. You mean that you are happy for Mr Cameron to spend millions of pounds promoting the Stay argument, because you agree with that argument. He is not promoting facts. He is promoting his view on the facts. At our expense. Had it been a, "On the one side, some say ... But on the other side, some say ..." type of publication, there might have been some merit in it. But crap like, "It makes our borders more secure?" Do you really think that people are stupid? Stupid enough to swallow that? I hope not. The fact is it does. Personally speaking, I detest Cameron...and all other Tories. But I see no reason why the government should pander to the fantasies of the Monster Raving Brexiters by watering down the facts to pander to their feverish view of the world. Personally speaking I think you must have a feverish view of the world if you think staying in is a good idea I invite you to explain why it is not. There isn't enough room in the forum. But when you have to resort to insulting people you have already lost your argument No one has been insulted. On the other hand, one thing I've noticed amongst people who support leaving the EU both here and elsewhere is an inability to articulate why. So what is a monster raving brexiter? ok, give us one, just one good reason for staying in? European law is the strongest protection for worker safety that we have, and our own government would take the opportunity to make workers less safe to save businesses money the second we leave. It's very simple. Yes, and they'd send children up chimneys" No they wouldn't. Why do you think that? Anyway, did you get anywhere with your reasons to leave? | |||
"The reason they have put it on a leaflet rather than the television is that it is widely recognised that leafletting is the most cost effective form of political campaigning. Well, £9.3m of our money seems a rather steep price to pay to learn nothing more than has been available on TV/radio/media for months. If Mr Cameron deems it important to get his message across, he can use his own fucking money to do so. You seem pretty confident that everybody knows this information. Let's face it, there are millions of morons in this country - which explains the popularity of Brexit. I'm more than happy for the government to spend millions of pounds of public money sealing them into their homes on voting day if that's what it takes to prevent them from ruining the future of the UK. Considering what we waste every single day in myriad ways, nine million pounds is a pittance. You mean that you are happy for Mr Cameron to spend millions of pounds promoting the Stay argument, because you agree with that argument. He is not promoting facts. He is promoting his view on the facts. At our expense. Had it been a, "On the one side, some say ... But on the other side, some say ..." type of publication, there might have been some merit in it. But crap like, "It makes our borders more secure?" Do you really think that people are stupid? Stupid enough to swallow that? I hope not. The fact is it does. Personally speaking, I detest Cameron...and all other Tories. But I see no reason why the government should pander to the fantasies of the Monster Raving Brexiters by watering down the facts to pander to their feverish view of the world. Personally speaking I think you must have a feverish view of the world if you think staying in is a good idea I invite you to explain why it is not. There isn't enough room in the forum. But when you have to resort to insulting people you have already lost your argument No one has been insulted. On the other hand, one thing I've noticed amongst people who support leaving the EU both here and elsewhere is an inability to articulate why. So what is a monster raving brexiter? ok, give us one, just one good reason for staying in? European law is the strongest protection for worker safety that we have, and our own government would take the opportunity to make workers less safe to save businesses money the second we leave. It's very simple." Try researching common law. You will find that our workers had protection long before the EU was a thought in anyone's mind. Try again. | |||
"Well nobody in this country has ever voted in favour of the EU, the original vote was for a common market. It's in democratic It's stated aim is " ever closer union" We are are net contributors so costs more than we put in. Free movement of people over the union. The impending acceptance to Turkey joining the EU That's a two minute off the top of my head thing" That's just a list of things, none of them are reasons why we should leave. | |||
"The reason they have put it on a leaflet rather than the television is that it is widely recognised that leafletting is the most cost effective form of political campaigning. Well, £9.3m of our money seems a rather steep price to pay to learn nothing more than has been available on TV/radio/media for months. If Mr Cameron deems it important to get his message across, he can use his own fucking money to do so. You seem pretty confident that everybody knows this information. Let's face it, there are millions of morons in this country - which explains the popularity of Brexit. I'm more than happy for the government to spend millions of pounds of public money sealing them into their homes on voting day if that's what it takes to prevent them from ruining the future of the UK. Considering what we waste every single day in myriad ways, nine million pounds is a pittance. You mean that you are happy for Mr Cameron to spend millions of pounds promoting the Stay argument, because you agree with that argument. He is not promoting facts. He is promoting his view on the facts. At our expense. Had it been a, "On the one side, some say ... But on the other side, some say ..." type of publication, there might have been some merit in it. But crap like, "It makes our borders more secure?" Do you really think that people are stupid? Stupid enough to swallow that? I hope not. The fact is it does. Personally speaking, I detest Cameron...and all other Tories. But I see no reason why the government should pander to the fantasies of the Monster Raving Brexiters by watering down the facts to pander to their feverish view of the world. Personally speaking I think you must have a feverish view of the world if you think staying in is a good idea I invite you to explain why it is not. There isn't enough room in the forum. But when you have to resort to insulting people you have already lost your argument No one has been insulted. On the other hand, one thing I've noticed amongst people who support leaving the EU both here and elsewhere is an inability to articulate why. So what is a monster raving brexiter? ok, give us one, just one good reason for staying in? European law is the strongest protection for worker safety that we have, and our own government would take the opportunity to make workers less safe to save businesses money the second we leave. It's very simple. Try researching common law. You will find that our workers had protection long before the EU was a thought in anyone's mind. Try again." Worker protection is not simply an off or on situation. You need to try again yourself if you think you have a counter argument there. Getting anywhere with those reasons to leave? | |||
"The reason they have put it on a leaflet rather than the television is that it is widely recognised that leafletting is the most cost effective form of political campaigning. Well, £9.3m of our money seems a rather steep price to pay to learn nothing more than has been available on TV/radio/media for months. If Mr Cameron deems it important to get his message across, he can use his own fucking money to do so. You seem pretty confident that everybody knows this information. Let's face it, there are millions of morons in this country - which explains the popularity of Brexit. I'm more than happy for the government to spend millions of pounds of public money sealing them into their homes on voting day if that's what it takes to prevent them from ruining the future of the UK. Considering what we waste every single day in myriad ways, nine million pounds is a pittance. You mean that you are happy for Mr Cameron to spend millions of pounds promoting the Stay argument, because you agree with that argument. He is not promoting facts. He is promoting his view on the facts. At our expense. Had it been a, "On the one side, some say ... But on the other side, some say ..." type of publication, there might have been some merit in it. But crap like, "It makes our borders more secure?" Do you really think that people are stupid? Stupid enough to swallow that? I hope not. The fact is it does. Personally speaking, I detest Cameron...and all other Tories. But I see no reason why the government should pander to the fantasies of the Monster Raving Brexiters by watering down the facts to pander to their feverish view of the world. Personally speaking I think you must have a feverish view of the world if you think staying in is a good idea I invite you to explain why it is not. There isn't enough room in the forum. But when you have to resort to insulting people you have already lost your argument No one has been insulted. On the other hand, one thing I've noticed amongst people who support leaving the EU both here and elsewhere is an inability to articulate why. So what is a monster raving brexiter? ok, give us one, just one good reason for staying in? European law is the strongest protection for worker safety that we have, and our own government would take the opportunity to make workers less safe to save businesses money the second we leave. It's very simple. Try researching common law. You will find that our workers had protection long before the EU was a thought in anyone's mind. Try again. Worker protection is not simply an off or on situation. You need to try again yourself if you think you have a counter argument there. Getting anywhere with those reasons to leave?" Being a member of the EU does not equate to worker safety. We had it before and will have it after. Reasons to leave? Shall we start with democracy? Shall we move on to expense? Shall we move on to being able to make our own cultural and financial decisions? Our own decisions about who we welcome? | |||
"The reason they have put it on a leaflet rather than the television is that it is widely recognised that leafletting is the most cost effective form of political campaigning. Well, £9.3m of our money seems a rather steep price to pay to learn nothing more than has been available on TV/radio/media for months. If Mr Cameron deems it important to get his message across, he can use his own fucking money to do so. You seem pretty confident that everybody knows this information. Let's face it, there are millions of morons in this country - which explains the popularity of Brexit. I'm more than happy for the government to spend millions of pounds of public money sealing them into their homes on voting day if that's what it takes to prevent them from ruining the future of the UK. Considering what we waste every single day in myriad ways, nine million pounds is a pittance. You mean that you are happy for Mr Cameron to spend millions of pounds promoting the Stay argument, because you agree with that argument. He is not promoting facts. He is promoting his view on the facts. At our expense. Had it been a, "On the one side, some say ... But on the other side, some say ..." type of publication, there might have been some merit in it. But crap like, "It makes our borders more secure?" Do you really think that people are stupid? Stupid enough to swallow that? I hope not. The fact is it does. Personally speaking, I detest Cameron...and all other Tories. But I see no reason why the government should pander to the fantasies of the Monster Raving Brexiters by watering down the facts to pander to their feverish view of the world. Personally speaking I think you must have a feverish view of the world if you think staying in is a good idea I invite you to explain why it is not. There isn't enough room in the forum. But when you have to resort to insulting people you have already lost your argument No one has been insulted. On the other hand, one thing I've noticed amongst people who support leaving the EU both here and elsewhere is an inability to articulate why. So what is a monster raving brexiter? ok, give us one, just one good reason for staying in? European law is the strongest protection for worker safety that we have, and our own government would take the opportunity to make workers less safe to save businesses money the second we leave. It's very simple. Try researching common law. You will find that our workers had protection long before the EU was a thought in anyone's mind. Try again. Worker protection is not simply an off or on situation. You need to try again yourself if you think you have a counter argument there. Getting anywhere with those reasons to leave? Being a member of the EU does not equate to worker safety. We had it before and will have it after. Reasons to leave? Shall we start with democracy? Shall we move on to expense? Shall we move on to being able to make our own cultural and financial decisions? Our own decisions about who we welcome? " Once again,myou have made the mistake of thinking that worker protection is an off or on state. It's not. EU regulated worker protection is far better than that which a Tory (and in all likelihood a Labour) government would allow us. So saying 'we've had it before and we'd have it again' means nothing. As for the other points, like the person above you've just given a list of stuff. You haven't explained how any of those things would be better for us if we left the EU. You need to give the actual reasoning behind those points if you want to show you understand them. | |||
"The reason they have put it on a leaflet rather than the television is that it is widely recognised that leafletting is the most cost effective form of political campaigning. Well, £9.3m of our money seems a rather steep price to pay to learn nothing more than has been available on TV/radio/media for months. If Mr Cameron deems it important to get his message across, he can use his own fucking money to do so. You seem pretty confident that everybody knows this information. Let's face it, there are millions of morons in this country - which explains the popularity of Brexit. I'm more than happy for the government to spend millions of pounds of public money sealing them into their homes on voting day if that's what it takes to prevent them from ruining the future of the UK. Considering what we waste every single day in myriad ways, nine million pounds is a pittance. You mean that you are happy for Mr Cameron to spend millions of pounds promoting the Stay argument, because you agree with that argument. He is not promoting facts. He is promoting his view on the facts. At our expense. Had it been a, "On the one side, some say ... But on the other side, some say ..." type of publication, there might have been some merit in it. But crap like, "It makes our borders more secure?" Do you really think that people are stupid? Stupid enough to swallow that? I hope not. The fact is it does. Personally speaking, I detest Cameron...and all other Tories. But I see no reason why the government should pander to the fantasies of the Monster Raving Brexiters by watering down the facts to pander to their feverish view of the world. Personally speaking I think you must have a feverish view of the world if you think staying in is a good idea I invite you to explain why it is not. There isn't enough room in the forum. But when you have to resort to insulting people you have already lost your argument No one has been insulted. On the other hand, one thing I've noticed amongst people who support leaving the EU both here and elsewhere is an inability to articulate why. So what is a monster raving brexiter? ok, give us one, just one good reason for staying in? European law is the strongest protection for worker safety that we have, and our own government would take the opportunity to make workers less safe to save businesses money the second we leave. It's very simple. Try researching common law. You will find that our workers had protection long before the EU was a thought in anyone's mind. Try again. Worker protection is not simply an off or on situation. You need to try again yourself if you think you have a counter argument there. Getting anywhere with those reasons to leave? Being a member of the EU does not equate to worker safety. We had it before and will have it after. Reasons to leave? Shall we start with democracy? Shall we move on to expense? Shall we move on to being able to make our own cultural and financial decisions? Our own decisions about who we welcome? Once again,myou have made the mistake of thinking that worker protection is an off or on state. It's not. EU regulated worker protection is far better than that which a Tory (and in all likelihood a Labour) government would allow us. So saying 'we've had it before and we'd have it again' means nothing. As for the other points, like the person above you've just given a list of stuff. You haven't explained how any of those things would be better for us if we left the EU. You need to give the actual reasoning behind those points if you want to show you understand them." WTF does an "off or on" state mean? We had worker protection before we entered the common market. We will have it after. If we left the EU? We would still have worker protection. Let us take democracy. At the moment, it matters diddly squat whether our parliament passes a law. If the EEC deems otherwise, it falls. You prefer Belgium to decide? | |||
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"The reason they have put it on a leaflet rather than the television is that it is widely recognised that leafletting is the most cost effective form of political campaigning. Well, £9.3m of our money seems a rather steep price to pay to learn nothing more than has been available on TV/radio/media for months. If Mr Cameron deems it important to get his message across, he can use his own fucking money to do so. You seem pretty confident that everybody knows this information. Let's face it, there are millions of morons in this country - which explains the popularity of Brexit. I'm more than happy for the government to spend millions of pounds of public money sealing them into their homes on voting day if that's what it takes to prevent them from ruining the future of the UK. Considering what we waste every single day in myriad ways, nine million pounds is a pittance. You mean that you are happy for Mr Cameron to spend millions of pounds promoting the Stay argument, because you agree with that argument. He is not promoting facts. He is promoting his view on the facts. At our expense. Had it been a, "On the one side, some say ... But on the other side, some say ..." type of publication, there might have been some merit in it. But crap like, "It makes our borders more secure?" Do you really think that people are stupid? Stupid enough to swallow that? I hope not. The fact is it does. Personally speaking, I detest Cameron...and all other Tories. But I see no reason why the government should pander to the fantasies of the Monster Raving Brexiters by watering down the facts to pander to their feverish view of the world. Personally speaking I think you must have a feverish view of the world if you think staying in is a good idea I invite you to explain why it is not. There isn't enough room in the forum. But when you have to resort to insulting people you have already lost your argument No one has been insulted. On the other hand, one thing I've noticed amongst people who support leaving the EU both here and elsewhere is an inability to articulate why. So what is a monster raving brexiter? ok, give us one, just one good reason for staying in? European law is the strongest protection for worker safety that we have, and our own government would take the opportunity to make workers less safe to save businesses money the second we leave. It's very simple. Try researching common law. You will find that our workers had protection long before the EU was a thought in anyone's mind. Try again. Worker protection is not simply an off or on situation. You need to try again yourself if you think you have a counter argument there. Getting anywhere with those reasons to leave? Being a member of the EU does not equate to worker safety. We had it before and will have it after. Reasons to leave? Shall we start with democracy? Shall we move on to expense? Shall we move on to being able to make our own cultural and financial decisions? Our own decisions about who we welcome? Once again,myou have made the mistake of thinking that worker protection is an off or on state. It's not. EU regulated worker protection is far better than that which a Tory (and in all likelihood a Labour) government would allow us. So saying 'we've had it before and we'd have it again' means nothing. As for the other points, like the person above you've just given a list of stuff. You haven't explained how any of those things would be better for us if we left the EU. You need to give the actual reasoning behind those points if you want to show you understand them. WTF does an "off or on" state mean? We had worker protection before we entered the common market. We will have it after. If we left the EU? We would still have worker protection. Let us take democracy. At the moment, it matters diddly squat whether our parliament passes a law. If the EEC deems otherwise, it falls. You prefer Belgium to decide? " Okay, let's forget it. If you can't understand a basic concept we're not going to get any further with this. As for democracy, you may want to factor in the fact that we are a democratic member of the EU (the EEC doesn't exist anymore, you may be pleased to learn!) before imagining our parliament's rulings matter 'diddly squat'. And beyond that, you might find this to be eye-opening, if you are interested in facts at all. It explains the differences between Acts, UK regulations and EU regulations, which will give you a real reckoning on what your 'diddly squat' actually amounts to: https://fullfact.org/europe/uk-law-what-proportion-influenced-eu/ TLDR: It's not 'diddly squat'. | |||
"If you should happen to get a little story book through your letter box from the lovely gent in Downing Street, that tries to tell you what you want, you might like to pop it into an unstamped envelope and return to tory HQ. Just saying... "Whatever happened to hearing both sides of the argument ffs | |||
"The reason they have put it on a leaflet rather than the television is that it is widely recognised that leafletting is the most cost effective form of political campaigning. Well, £9.3m of our money seems a rather steep price to pay to learn nothing more than has been available on TV/radio/media for months. If Mr Cameron deems it important to get his message across, he can use his own fucking money to do so." I don't watch live TV or listen to the Radio. I'm interested to hear what the official party line is before I vote. | |||
"The reason they have put it on a leaflet rather than the television is that it is widely recognised that leafletting is the most cost effective form of political campaigning. Well, £9.3m of our money seems a rather steep price to pay to learn nothing more than has been available on TV/radio/media for months. If Mr Cameron deems it important to get his message across, he can use his own fucking money to do so. You seem pretty confident that everybody knows this information. Let's face it, there are millions of morons in this country - which explains the popularity of Brexit. I'm more than happy for the government to spend millions of pounds of public money sealing them into their homes on voting day if that's what it takes to prevent them from ruining the future of the UK. Considering what we waste every single day in myriad ways, nine million pounds is a pittance. You mean that you are happy for Mr Cameron to spend millions of pounds promoting the Stay argument, because you agree with that argument. He is not promoting facts. He is promoting his view on the facts. At our expense. Had it been a, "On the one side, some say ... But on the other side, some say ..." type of publication, there might have been some merit in it. But crap like, "It makes our borders more secure?" Do you really think that people are stupid? Stupid enough to swallow that? I hope not. The fact is it does. Personally speaking, I detest Cameron...and all other Tories. But I see no reason why the government should pander to the fantasies of the Monster Raving Brexiters by watering down the facts to pander to their feverish view of the world. Personally speaking I think you must have a feverish view of the world if you think staying in is a good idea I invite you to explain why it is not. There isn't enough room in the forum. But when you have to resort to insulting people you have already lost your argument No one has been insulted. On the other hand, one thing I've noticed amongst people who support leaving the EU both here and elsewhere is an inability to articulate why. So what is a monster raving brexiter? ok, give us one, just one good reason for staying in? European law is the strongest protection for worker safety that we have, and our own government would take the opportunity to make workers less safe to save businesses money the second we leave. It's very simple. Try researching common law. You will find that our workers had protection long before the EU was a thought in anyone's mind. Try again. Worker protection is not simply an off or on situation. You need to try again yourself if you think you have a counter argument there. Getting anywhere with those reasons to leave? Being a member of the EU does not equate to worker safety. We had it before and will have it after. Reasons to leave? Shall we start with democracy? Shall we move on to expense? Shall we move on to being able to make our own cultural and financial decisions? Our own decisions about who we welcome? Once again,myou have made the mistake of thinking that worker protection is an off or on state. It's not. EU regulated worker protection is far better than that which a Tory (and in all likelihood a Labour) government would allow us. So saying 'we've had it before and we'd have it again' means nothing. As for the other points, like the person above you've just given a list of stuff. You haven't explained how any of those things would be better for us if we left the EU. You need to give the actual reasoning behind those points if you want to show you understand them. WTF does an "off or on" state mean? We had worker protection before we entered the common market. We will have it after. If we left the EU? We would still have worker protection. Let us take democracy. At the moment, it matters diddly squat whether our parliament passes a law. If the EEC deems otherwise, it falls. You prefer Belgium to decide? Okay, let's forget it. If you can't understand a basic concept we're not going to get any further with this. As for democracy, you may want to factor in the fact that we are a democratic member of the EU (the EEC doesn't exist anymore, you may be pleased to learn!) before imagining our parliament's rulings matter 'diddly squat'. And beyond that, you might find this to be eye-opening, if you are interested in facts at all. It explains the differences between Acts, UK regulations and EU regulations, which will give you a real reckoning on what your 'diddly squat' actually amounts to: https://fullfact.org/europe/uk-law-what-proportion-influenced-eu/ TLDR: It's not 'diddly squat'." Go on. Just imagine that I am stupid. It is easy to do. Explain it to me. If you can be arsed. Oh, yes ... I think we voted for a common trading system. Was that the EEC? Seems so long ago. | |||
"The reason they have put it on a leaflet rather than the television is that it is widely recognised that leafletting is the most cost effective form of political campaigning. Well, £9.3m of our money seems a rather steep price to pay to learn nothing more than has been available on TV/radio/media for months. If Mr Cameron deems it important to get his message across, he can use his own fucking money to do so. I don't watch live TV or listen to the Radio. I'm interested to hear what the official party line is before I vote." That's fine. £9.3m to send you a leaflet - or you could do a quick google if you're lazy. | |||
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