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"Bah bah black sheep is now rainbow sheep Happy Christmas is happy holidays Now easter eggs are just chocolate eggs.... What ever next??? " its just a marketing ploy so they can sell them all year round... | |||
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"People are terrified off upsetting someone or some group. " Im not rasist in the slightest but why should we change our British holidays in Britain to suit others.. if British people moved to another country we would have to like or lump theirs xx | |||
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"People are terrified off upsetting someone or some group. Im not rasist in the slightest but why should we change our British holidays in Britain to suit others.. if British people moved to another country we would have to like or lump theirs xx " nice attempt to segue from being an english issue to a so called "british" issue | |||
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"People are terrified off upsetting someone or some group. Im not rasist in the slightest but why should we change our British holidays in Britain to suit others.. if British people moved to another country we would have to like or lump theirs xx nice attempt to segue from being an english issue to a so called "british" issue " Those well known British holidays such as Christmas and Easter as well. It's not like anyone else in the world ever celebrates those either... | |||
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"Bah bah black sheep is now rainbow sheep Happy Christmas is happy holidays Now easter eggs are just chocolate eggs.... What ever next??? " seasons greetings is to avoid upholding christianity when do you see a nativty scene in a shop window these days The tree is slowly being phased out too | |||
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"Not true. Not true. Might be true (I haven't heard it) but even if it is why does it matter? I fail to see the link between the concept of Easter as a religious festival and chocolate other than a purely commercial one. And even though I'm not religious I like chocolate. Overpriced egg shaped chocolate cam do one though when I can just buy a bar of the stuff all year round." Eggsactly  | |||
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"People are terrified off upsetting someone or some group. Im not rasist in the slightest but why should we change our British holidays in Britain to suit others.. if British people moved to another country we would have to like or lump theirs xx " Total cobblers. Any evidence for this? Also we once ruled a quarter of the globe and forced the peeps there to change their ways. | |||
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"People are terrified off upsetting someone or some group. Im not rasist in the slightest but why should we change our British holidays in Britain to suit others.. if British people moved to another country we would have to like or lump theirs xx nice attempt to segue from being an english issue to a so called "british" issue Those well known British holidays such as Christmas and Easter as well. It's not like anyone else in the world ever celebrates those either..." But why does Britain have to change names of the holidays and songs just so it doesn't upset or insult people who has moved over here?? X x | |||
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"Bah bah black sheep is now rainbow sheep Happy Christmas is happy holidays Now easter eggs are just chocolate eggs.... What ever next??? seasons greetings is to avoid upholding christianity when do you see a nativty scene in a shop window these days The tree is slowly being phased out too" Ah, the good old British Christmas tree. Introduced just over a century ago by the German husband of the then Queen. | |||
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"People are terrified off upsetting someone or some group. Im not rasist in the slightest but why should we change our British holidays in Britain to suit others.. if British people moved to another country we would have to like or lump theirs xx Total cobblers. Any evidence for this? Also we once ruled a quarter of the globe and forced the peeps there to change their ways. " It's been in a few papers... Google it x | |||
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"People are terrified off upsetting someone or some group. Im not rasist in the slightest but why should we change our British holidays in Britain to suit others.. if British people moved to another country we would have to like or lump theirs xx nice attempt to segue from being an english issue to a so called "british" issue Those well known British holidays such as Christmas and Easter as well. It's not like anyone else in the world ever celebrates those either... But why does Britain have to change names of the holidays and songs just so it doesn't upset or insult people who has moved over here?? X x" It doesn't have to. Some people do for various reasons (usually idiotic ones but at least they have the freedom to be idiots) and the media blows an isolated incident out of all proportion. Or just makes it up, as in the case of Baa, baa, rainbow sheep. | |||
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"People are terrified off upsetting someone or some group. Im not rasist in the slightest but why should we change our British holidays in Britain to suit others.. if British people moved to another country we would have to like or lump theirs xx nice attempt to segue from being an english issue to a so called "british" issue Those well known British holidays such as Christmas and Easter as well. It's not like anyone else in the world ever celebrates those either... But why does Britain have to change names of the holidays and songs just so it doesn't upset or insult people who has moved over here?? X x" The people these holidays most likely offends are anti-consumerists, athiests, and agnostics. Religion followers who believe in Jesus (in all his forms) do not mind other religions celebrating his special days. | |||
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"I not religious so don't really care if they stop having christian/religious holidays. " You would get less time off work | |||
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"Ba ba rainbow sheep?? Chocolate eggs??? Wtf. Do people seriously believe that shit like that is written in a policy somewhere? Stop being a sheeple. Stop reading the propaganda. Sing what you like. Call your festival what you will. There is no law on earth that says you can't. " It's not the law but chocolate companies have changed their wording so not to upset others... just like a lot of schools have changed words to nursery rhymes not to up set other coz apprently black sheep is rasist x | |||
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"I not religious so don't really care if they stop having christian/religious holidays. You would get less time off work" Unions could just arrange different holidays, give people the power to have time off when it suits them and not when it suits the church. | |||
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"Ba ba rainbow sheep?? Chocolate eggs??? Wtf. Do people seriously believe that shit like that is written in a policy somewhere? Stop being a sheeple. Stop reading the propaganda. Sing what you like. Call your festival what you will. There is no law on earth that says you can't. It's not the law but chocolate companies have changed their wording so not to upset others... just like a lot of schools have changed words to nursery rhymes not to up set other coz apprently black sheep is rasist x" So as not to upset others or so as to sell to more people? | |||
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"That's strange,I've just seen a video posted on Facebook,by a friend with giant boxes labelled EASTER EGG. Someone didn't get the memo." It's not all companies (yet) but some chocolate companies and super market brands have changed to chocolate eggs x | |||
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"Ba ba rainbow sheep?? Chocolate eggs??? Wtf. Do people seriously believe that shit like that is written in a policy somewhere? Stop being a sheeple. Stop reading the propaganda. Sing what you like. Call your festival what you will. There is no law on earth that says you can't. It's not the law but chocolate companies have changed their wording so not to upset others... just like a lot of schools have changed words to nursery rhymes not to up set other coz apprently black sheep is rasist x" No they haven't. You've posted this stuff before OP, so it obviously winds you up. You should therefore be glad to find out that you've been misinformed. Not a single school in this country uses "rainbow sheep". | |||
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"Ba ba rainbow sheep?? Chocolate eggs??? Wtf. Do people seriously believe that shit like that is written in a policy somewhere? Stop being a sheeple. Stop reading the propaganda. Sing what you like. Call your festival what you will. There is no law on earth that says you can't. It's not the law but chocolate companies have changed their wording so not to upset others... just like a lot of schools have changed words to nursery rhymes not to up set other coz apprently black sheep is rasist x" I don't think you have enough experience of 'a lot' of schools to know this. Do you? | |||
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"That's strange,I've just seen a video posted on Facebook,by a friend with giant boxes labelled EASTER EGG. Someone didn't get the memo. It's not all companies (yet) but some chocolate companies and super market brands have changed to chocolate eggs x" Damn those Cadbury creme eggs.  | |||
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"Ba ba rainbow sheep?? Chocolate eggs??? Wtf. Do people seriously believe that shit like that is written in a policy somewhere? Stop being a sheeple. Stop reading the propaganda. Sing what you like. Call your festival what you will. There is no law on earth that says you can't. It's not the law but chocolate companies have changed their wording so not to upset others... just like a lot of schools have changed words to nursery rhymes not to up set other coz apprently black sheep is rasist x I don't think you have enough experience of 'a lot' of schools to know this. Do you?" I have many friends all over the country from Cornwall to new castle. I also have 5 kids who have been to a few schools so yes I have experience with a lot of schools who have changed black sheep to rainbow sheep x | |||
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"how come the word chocolate isn't racist?" It is, check your white privilege | |||
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"Ba ba rainbow sheep?? Chocolate eggs??? Wtf. Do people seriously believe that shit like that is written in a policy somewhere? Stop being a sheeple. Stop reading the propaganda. Sing what you like. Call your festival what you will. There is no law on earth that says you can't. It's not the law but chocolate companies have changed their wording so not to upset others... just like a lot of schools have changed words to nursery rhymes not to up set other coz apprently black sheep is rasist x I don't think you have enough experience of 'a lot' of schools to know this. Do you? I have many friends all over the country from Cornwall to new castle. I also have 5 kids who have been to a few schools so yes I have experience with a lot of schools who have changed black sheep to rainbow sheep x" I'd get onto the Daily Mail then, because they'd pay good money for a story like that, considering they've perpetuated one small incident for the last 10 years | |||
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"how come the word chocolate isn't racist?" It's not chocolate.. it the fact it's easter which is a religious holiday and it upset other religions that we celebrate it.. just like Xmas x | |||
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"how come the word chocolate isn't racist?" It's no when applied to an egg made of cocoa-based confectionery. | |||
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"People are terrified off upsetting someone or some group. Im not rasist in the slightest but why should we change our British holidays in Britain to suit others.. if British people moved to another country we would have to like or lump theirs xx Total cobblers. Any evidence for this? Also we once ruled a quarter of the globe and forced the peeps there to change their ways. " 
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"People are terrified off upsetting someone or some group. Im not rasist in the slightest but why should we change our British holidays in Britain to suit others.. if British people moved to another country we would have to like or lump theirs xx Total cobblers. Any evidence for this? Also we once ruled a quarter of the globe and forced the peeps there to change their ways. " The good old days | |||
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"Ba ba rainbow sheep?? Chocolate eggs??? Wtf. Do people seriously believe that shit like that is written in a policy somewhere? Stop being a sheeple. Stop reading the propaganda. Sing what you like. Call your festival what you will. There is no law on earth that says you can't. It's not the law but chocolate companies have changed their wording so not to upset others... just like a lot of schools have changed words to nursery rhymes not to up set other coz apprently black sheep is rasist x" How do you know this? Who said so? | |||
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"how come the word chocolate isn't racist? It's not chocolate.. it the fact it's easter which is a religious holiday and it upset other religions that we celebrate it.. just like Xmas x" who is it that has actually complained that some people in this country celebrate easter. The shops are shut for one day hardly a big impact on other religions | |||
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"how come the word chocolate isn't racist? It's not chocolate.. it the fact it's easter which is a religious holiday and it upset other religions that we celebrate it.. just like Xmas x" Easter as a religious festival isn't celebrated by Christians eating chocolate eggs though. | |||
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"Ba ba rainbow sheep?? Chocolate eggs??? Wtf. Do people seriously believe that shit like that is written in a policy somewhere? Stop being a sheeple. Stop reading the propaganda. Sing what you like. Call your festival what you will. There is no law on earth that says you can't. It's not the law but chocolate companies have changed their wording so not to upset others... just like a lot of schools have changed words to nursery rhymes not to up set other coz apprently black sheep is rasist x How do you know this? Who said so? " Schools said bout black sheep and a few papers have said bout eggs x | |||
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"People are terrified off upsetting someone or some group. Im not rasist in the slightest but why should we change our British holidays in Britain to suit others.. if British people moved to another country we would have to like or lump theirs xx Total cobblers. Any evidence for this? Also we once ruled a quarter of the globe and forced the peeps there to change their ways. The good old days " The good old days? | |||
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"how come the word chocolate isn't racist? It's no when applied to an egg made of cocoa-based confectionery. " it will be banned soon though, you wait and see. but first we will celebrate choclomas, choclotines day, and chocster then ban them. | |||
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"how come the word chocolate isn't racist? It's no when applied to an egg made of cocoa-based confectionery. it will be banned soon though, you wait and see. but first we will celebrate choclomas, choclotines day, and chocster then ban them. " Then we'll be debating about obesity. And whether its ethical to tie a fat person to a treadmill. | |||
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"how come the word chocolate isn't racist? It's no when applied to an egg made of cocoa-based confectionery. it will be banned soon though, you wait and see. but first we will celebrate choclomas, choclotines day, and chocster then ban them. Then we'll be debating about obesity. And whether its ethical to tie a fat person to a treadmill." maybe they'll force obese people to use those muscle stimulators every day? but give them time off for chocolomas and other chocolate based holidays. | |||
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"Ba ba rainbow sheep?? Chocolate eggs??? Wtf. Do people seriously believe that shit like that is written in a policy somewhere? Stop being a sheeple. Stop reading the propaganda. Sing what you like. Call your festival what you will. There is no law on earth that says you can't. It's not the law but chocolate companies have changed their wording so not to upset others... just like a lot of schools have changed words to nursery rhymes not to up set other coz apprently black sheep is rasist x How do you know this? Who said so? Schools said bout black sheep and a few papers have said bout eggs x" What schools? I have 20 years experience of working in education and I haven't heard it. And what the paper writes is not law. Just propaganda to do instigate hate. God forbid you have your own opinion. | |||
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"People are terrified off upsetting someone or some group. Im not rasist in the slightest but why should we change our British holidays in Britain to suit others.. if British people moved to another country we would have to like or lump theirs xx Total cobblers. Any evidence for this? Also we once ruled a quarter of the globe and forced the peeps there to change their ways. It's been in a few papers... Google it x" so was Freddie Starr ate a hamster and Elvis lives in a bus on the moon.. jeez.. disclaimer, other uses of the name of deities both imaginary and real are available.. | |||
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" But why does Britain have to change names of the holidays and songs just so it doesn't upset or insult people who has moved over here?? X x" You mean like the traditional British pagan festival of Yuletide being hijacked and renamed Christmas to commemorate the death of a middle eastern martyr and enable the establishment of a religion from a foreign land  | |||
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"how come the word chocolate isn't racist? It's no when applied to an egg made of cocoa-based confectionery. it will be banned soon though, you wait and see. but first we will celebrate choclomas, choclotines day, and chocster then ban them. Then we'll be debating about obesity. And whether its ethical to tie a fat person to a treadmill. maybe they'll force obese people to use those muscle stimulators every day? but give them time off for chocolomas and other chocolate based holidays." Haha if they charged for it they could tax that! | |||
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"Hot cross buns have got bugger all to do with Jesus. That's all I'm sayin.. "hot cross buns are traditionally eaten on Good Friday; they are marked on top with a cross, wither cut in the dough or composed of strips of pastry. The mark is of ancient origin, connected with religious offerings of bread, which replaced earlier, less civilized offerings of blood. | |||
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"The Christian "Easter" is a takeover of the festival of Eostre, an Anglo-Saxon goddess. It was to celebrate the birth of life in Spring and was generally a big love-in. That's what the rabbits and eggs are all about. The word "oestrogen" comes from Eostre." & the hot cross buns | |||
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"how come the word chocolate isn't racist? It's no when applied to an egg made of cocoa-based confectionery. it will be banned soon though, you wait and see. but first we will celebrate choclomas, choclotines day, and chocster then ban them. Then we'll be debating about obesity. And whether its ethical to tie a fat person to a treadmill." I used to look forward to chocolate after a good session in the gym on a treadmill. Now I just go straight for the chocolate. | |||
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"how come the word chocolate isn't racist? It's no when applied to an egg made of cocoa-based confectionery. it will be banned soon though, you wait and see. but first we will celebrate choclomas, choclotines day, and chocster then ban them. Then we'll be debating about obesity. And whether its ethical to tie a fat person to a treadmill. maybe they'll force obese people to use those muscle stimulators every day? but give them time off for chocolomas and other chocolate based holidays. Haha if they charged for it they could tax that! " you're givng me ideas for new festivities here. taxmas, taxtines day and taxster. 
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"Hot cross buns have got bugger all to do with Jesus. That's all I'm sayin..
hot cross buns are traditionally eaten on Good Friday; they are marked on top with a cross, wither cut in the dough or composed of strips of pastry. The mark is of ancient origin, connected with religious offerings of bread, which replaced earlier, less civilized offerings of blood."I eat them all year round as my civilised offering | |||
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"The Christian "Easter" is a takeover of the festival of Eostre, an Anglo-Saxon goddess. It was to celebrate the birth of life in Spring and was generally a big love-in. That's what the rabbits and eggs are all about. The word "oestrogen" comes from Eostre. & the hot cross buns "No, they're Christian and are eaten at the end of Lent. | |||
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"The Christian "Easter" is a takeover of the festival of Eostre, an Anglo-Saxon goddess. It was to celebrate the birth of life in Spring and was generally a big love-in. That's what the rabbits and eggs are all about. The word "oestrogen" comes from Eostre. & the hot cross buns
No, they're Christian and are eaten at the end of Lent."That's not how they began | |||
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"That's strange,I've just seen a video posted on Facebook,by a friend with giant boxes labelled EASTER EGG. Someone didn't get the memo. It's not all companies (yet) but some chocolate companies and super market brands have changed to chocolate eggs x" Are you sure they haven't always been called chocolate eggs? Which companies have changed? | |||
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"how come the word chocolate isn't racist? It's no when applied to an egg made of cocoa-based confectionery. it will be banned soon though, you wait and see. but first we will celebrate choclomas, choclotines day, and chocster then ban them. Then we'll be debating about obesity. And whether its ethical to tie a fat person to a treadmill. maybe they'll force obese people to use those muscle stimulators every day? but give them time off for chocolomas and other chocolate based holidays. Haha if they charged for it they could tax that! you're givng me ideas for new festivities here. taxmas, taxtines day and taxster.
they're pretty easy to make up really..."Oooh. You should run for prime minister! I'll be your wing person (see what I did there!) | |||
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"The Christian "Easter" is a takeover of the festival of Eostre, an Anglo-Saxon goddess. It was to celebrate the birth of life in Spring and was generally a big love-in. That's what the rabbits and eggs are all about. The word "oestrogen" comes from Eostre. & the hot cross buns
No, they're Christian and are eaten at the end of Lent.
That's not how they began"Well, they were an adaptation of a similar Jewish cake, but the cross was added to represent the crucifixion. | |||
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"Have we decided what England's coming to yet?" clearly not it senses | |||
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"Ba ba rainbow sheep?? Chocolate eggs??? Wtf. Do people seriously believe that shit like that is written in a policy somewhere? Stop being a sheeple. Stop reading the propaganda. Sing what you like. Call your festival what you will. There is no law on earth that says you can't. It's not the law but chocolate companies have changed their wording so not to upset others... just like a lot of schools have changed words to nursery rhymes not to up set other coz apprently black sheep is rasist x I don't think you have enough experience of 'a lot' of schools to know this. Do you? I have many friends all over the country from Cornwall to new castle. I also have 5 kids who have been to a few schools so yes I have experience with a lot of schools who have changed black sheep to rainbow sheep x" Interesting, because I don't know of any and I consult in schools all over the country. | |||
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"White people with an agenda bullshit! Yes, I said it! I've sung bah, bah black sheep to my children. I sing it to my dual heritage grandsons. I've taught in schools and not once have I come across this nonsense. Honestly, don't you think black people have bigger fish to fry than worry about this bollocks? "sadly some do have one yes.. | |||
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"White people with an agenda bullshit! Yes, I said it! I've sung bah, bah black sheep to my children. I sing it to my dual heritage grandsons. I've taught in schools and not once have I come across this nonsense. Honestly, don't you think black people have bigger fish to fry than worry about this bollocks? "Whether it's true or not I don't know, but it's not usually black people who give a shit about this sort of thing - it's usually the whiney left trendies. | |||
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"Have we decided what England's coming to yet?" We're doomed. Oh no, sorry, wrong thread  | |||
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"It's going to be very quiet in here on Sunday what with everyone being in church all day and everything "Well some of us will be on our knees shouting "oh God!" for sure! | |||
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"White people with an agenda bullshit! Yes, I said it! I've sung bah, bah black sheep to my children. I sing it to my dual heritage grandsons. I've taught in schools and not once have I come across this nonsense. Honestly, don't you think black people have bigger fish to fry than worry about this bollocks? "Are you saying black people have bigger fish? That's stereotyping black people. Not to mention hurting the feelings of the fat fish. | |||
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A few people at work were banging on about "ooooh it's Easter weekend"
I asked them if they were religious (they weren't) then asked why are they bothered then. Didn't get an answer | |||
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"England sounds a horrible place to live" Especially if you are a fish | |||
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"People are terrified off upsetting someone or some group. Im not rasist in the slightest but why should we change our British holidays in Britain to suit others.. if British people moved to another country we would have to like or lump theirs xx Total cobblers. Any evidence for this? Also we once ruled a quarter of the globe and forced the peeps there to change their ways. " | |||
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"England sounds a horrible place to live" Na.. if your a vegetarian atheist with a cocoa intolerance its ok.. | |||
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"England sounds a horrible place to live Especially if you are a fish" nah it just sounds confused angry n naff | |||
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"England sounds a horrible place to live Especially if you are a fish nah it just sounds confused angry n naff" which is sad btw | |||
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"England sounds a horrible place to live Especially if you are a fish nah it just sounds confused angry n naff" So like Scotland then ? | |||
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"England sounds a horrible place to live Especially if you are a fish nah it just sounds confused angry n naff which is sad btw" That bout sums it up lol x We accept all race and religions that's not a problem but others don't accept ours. Xxxx | |||
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"I only learnt it was good Friday this afternoon.
A few people at work were banging on about "ooooh it's Easter weekend"
I asked them if they were religious (they weren't) then asked why are they bothered then. Didn't get an answer "Good Friday !! I bet Jesus had better Fridays.
One of his mates turned out to be a turncoat, his best mate repeatedly denied knowing him, sentanced to death, nailed to a lump of wood, stabbed with a spear and ended up trapped in a cave (took him the whole weekend to get out of the fucker) | |||
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"England sounds a horrible place to live Especially if you are a fish nah it just sounds confused angry n naff which is sad btw That bout sums it up lol x We accept all race and religions that's not a problem but others don't accept ours. Xxxx" That is not correct though is it. | |||
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"how come the word chocolate isn't racist? It's no when applied to an egg made of cocoa-based confectionery. it will be banned soon though, you wait and see. but first we will celebrate choclomas, choclotines day, and chocster then ban them. Then we'll be debating about obesity. And whether its ethical to tie a fat person to a treadmill. maybe they'll force obese people to use those muscle stimulators every day? but give them time off for chocolomas and other chocolate based holidays. Haha if they charged for it they could tax that! you're givng me ideas for new festivities here. taxmas, taxtines day and taxster.
they're pretty easy to make up really...
Oooh. You should run for prime minister! I'll be your wing person (see what I did there!) "yeah go for it. and we'll have a wingmas and that, don't worry. every year i shall change every festivity into something new, just so people have no idea what they're celebrating.  | |||
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"England sounds a horrible place to live Especially if you are a fish nah it just sounds confused angry n naff which is sad btw That bout sums it up lol x We accept all race and religions that's not a problem but others don't accept ours. Xxxx" yea that's sad,,fuck all wrong with English culture | |||
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"England sounds a horrible place to live Especially if you are a fish nah it just sounds confused angry n naff which is sad btw That bout sums it up lol x We accept all race and religions that's not a problem but others don't accept ours. Xxxx" Omg please stop posting | |||
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"England sounds a horrible place to live Especially if you are a fish nah it just sounds confused angry n naff So like Scotland then ?" yea I do,,,why? scotlands a great country and most scots are proud of our culture. | |||
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"England sounds a horrible place to live Especially if you are a fish nah it just sounds confused angry n naff which is sad btw That bout sums it up lol x We accept all race and religions that's not a problem but others don't accept ours. Xxxx that's bollocks.. " Yes, it is bollocks - people of different religions do accept ours. This is what happens to them:- http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/12204357/Muslim-shopkeeper-murdered-in-suspected-religiously-prejudiced-attack-after-posting-on-Facebook-of-love-for-Christians.html | |||
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"England sounds a horrible place to live Especially if you are a fish nah it just sounds confused angry n naff which is sad btw That bout sums it up lol x We accept all race and religions that's not a problem but others don't accept ours. Xxxx that's bollocks.. " its not bollocks,,im not English,,but I think England is a pretty open country,,i just think its sad English people are made to feel guilty bout being proud of their country,black ,white,yellow,,its deemed racist to fly the flag,,where as in Scotland its not regardless of ones colour or creed. | |||
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"The "baa baa rainbow sheep" myth relates to a couple of nurseries in Oxfordshire in 2006 with an over-zealous manager who changed the words of the original. It lasted all of a couple of weeks before being changed back after a legitimate outcry. 10 years after this minor local example of foolishness, It's now trotted out as regularly as an example of how "Political correctness gone mad" is sending this country (Britain, by the way) to hell in a handcart. " I think it is political correctness gone mad ! You can't even say now that Boris Johnson is a right wing cunt who should be dragged behind a motor bike up and down a cobbled street without some do gooder having a go at you ! | |||
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"England sounds a horrible place to live Especially if you are a fish nah it just sounds confused angry n naff which is sad btw That bout sums it up lol x We accept all race and religions that's not a problem but others don't accept ours. Xxxx That is not correct though is it." Can you actually name 1 race or religion that is not here in England??? We have built mosques, we allow other religions to have a extra break at work so they can prey if they need wish to... we allow women to wear berkas in public and cover their face ( yet if a biker went into a shop with helmet on they would have to remove it) We allow halal meat to be produced over here for religious reasons... Even school are serving halal meat . X | |||
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"Apparently haggis was invented by the English " aye n we invented the English..we put all the weirdos n nutters down south n said right you be the english | |||
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"England sounds a horrible place to live Especially if you are a fish nah it just sounds confused angry n naff which is sad btw That bout sums it up lol x We accept all race and religions that's not a problem but others don't accept ours. Xxxx That is not correct though is it. Can you actually name 1 race or religion that is not here in England??? We have built mosques, we allow other religions to have a extra break at work so they can prey if they need wish to... we allow women to wear berkas in public and cover their face ( yet if a biker went into a shop with helmet on they would have to remove it) We allow halal meat to be produced over here for religious reasons... Even school are serving halal meat . X" What exactly is your problem? I thought you said that people here accepted people, it certainly doesn't sound as if you do .... | |||
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"England sounds a horrible place to live Especially if you are a fish nah it just sounds confused angry n naff which is sad btw That bout sums it up lol x We accept all race and religions that's not a problem but others don't accept ours. Xxxx That is not correct though is it. Can you actually name 1 race or religion that is not here in England??? We have built mosques, we allow other religions to have a extra break at work so they can prey if they need wish to... we allow women to wear berkas in public and cover their face ( yet if a biker went into a shop with helmet on they would have to remove it) We allow halal meat to be produced over here for religious reasons... Even school are serving halal meat . X" I meant that it isn't correct that other religions don't accept yours (I'm not a Christian I'm guessing Christianity is what you practice). | |||
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"England sounds a horrible place to live Especially if you are a fish nah it just sounds confused angry n naff which is sad btw That bout sums it up lol x We accept all race and religions that's not a problem but others don't accept ours. Xxxx That is not correct though is it. Can you actually name 1 race or religion that is not here in England??? We have built mosques, we allow other religions to have a extra break at work so they can prey if they need wish to... we allow women to wear berkas in public and cover their face ( yet if a biker went into a shop with helmet on they would have to remove it) We allow halal meat to be produced over here for religious reasons... Even school are serving halal meat . X" Heres two: The united church of bacon And The church of the flying spaghetti monster. England has not embraced baconology or pastafarianism. You're welcome. | |||
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"England sounds a horrible place to live Especially if you are a fish nah it just sounds confused angry n naff which is sad btw That bout sums it up lol x We accept all race and religions that's not a problem but others don't accept ours. Xxxx that's bollocks.. its not bollocks,,im not English,,but I think England is a pretty open country,,i just think its sad English people are made to feel guilty bout being proud of their country,black ,white,yellow,,its deemed racist to fly the flag,,where as in Scotland its not regardless of ones colour or creed." | |||
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"England sounds a horrible place to live Especially if you are a fish nah it just sounds confused angry n naff which is sad btw That bout sums it up lol x We accept all race and religions that's not a problem but others don't accept ours. Xxxx That is not correct though is it. Can you actually name 1 race or religion that is not here in England??? We have built mosques, we allow other religions to have a extra break at work so they can prey if they need wish to... we allow women to wear berkas in public and cover their face ( yet if a biker went into a shop with helmet on they would have to remove it) We allow halal meat to be produced over here for religious reasons... Even school are serving halal meat . X Heres two: The united church of bacon And The church of the flying spaghetti monster. England has not embraced baconology or pastafarianism. You're welcome. "top banter | |||
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"People are terrified off upsetting someone or some group. " My old fella is in hospital at the moment and a couple of days ago and my mum took him a little greek orthodox icon..Two little pictures of saints hinged together that you stand up somewhere. I found he had it closed and lay down in his cabinet and when I asked why he told me he didn't wish to offend anyone. That made me quite sad and a little annoyed that anyone should feel that way and I stood it up next to his bed and there it proudly remains. nobody should hide their beliefs from anyone else...there's room here for them all. | |||
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"England sounds a horrible place to live Especially if you are a fish nah it just sounds confused angry n naff which is sad btw That bout sums it up lol x We accept all race and religions that's not a problem but others don't accept ours. Xxxx That is not correct though is it. Can you actually name 1 race or religion that is not here in England??? We have built mosques, we allow other religions to have a extra break at work so they can prey if they need wish to... we allow women to wear berkas in public and cover their face ( yet if a biker went into a shop with helmet on they would have to remove it) We allow halal meat to be produced over here for religious reasons... Even school are serving halal meat . X I meant that it isn't correct that other religions don't accept yours (I'm not a Christian I'm guessing Christianity is what you practice). " I'm not religious at all... tbh if I step I church I would explode. X | |||
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"People are terrified off upsetting someone or some group. My old fella is in hospital at the moment and a couple of days ago and my mum took him a little greek orthodox icon..Two little pictures of saints hinged together that you stand up somewhere. I found he had it closed and lay down in his cabinet and when I asked why he told me he didn't wish to offend anyone. That made me quite sad and a little annoyed that anyone should feel that way and I stood it up next to his bed and there it proudly remains. nobody should hide their beliefs from anyone else...there's room here for them all." Who do you think he was most worried about offending? | |||
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"England sounds a horrible place to live Especially if you are a fish nah it just sounds confused angry n naff which is sad btw That bout sums it up lol x We accept all race and religions that's not a problem but others don't accept ours. Xxxx That is not correct though is it. Can you actually name 1 race or religion that is not here in England??? We have built mosques, we allow other religions to have a extra break at work so they can prey if they need wish to... we allow women to wear berkas in public and cover their face ( yet if a biker went into a shop with helmet on they would have to remove it) We allow halal meat to be produced over here for religious reasons... Even school are serving halal meat . X I meant that it isn't correct that other religions don't accept yours (I'm not a Christian I'm guessing Christianity is what you practice). I'm not religious at all... tbh if I step I church I would explode. X " Oh | |||
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"I'm waiting for the brave person to say the i-word lol Which is.............?" the latest ill-conceived apple product? | |||
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"England sounds a horrible place to live Especially if you are a fish nah it just sounds confused angry n naff which is sad btw That bout sums it up lol x We accept all race and religions that's not a problem but others don't accept ours. Xxxx That is not correct though is it. Can you actually name 1 race or religion that is not here in England??? We have built mosques, we allow other religions to have a extra break at work so they can prey if they need wish to... we allow women to wear berkas in public and cover their face ( yet if a biker went into a shop with helmet on they would have to remove it) We allow halal meat to be produced over here for religious reasons... Even school are serving halal meat . X I meant that it isn't correct that other religions don't accept yours (I'm not a Christian I'm guessing Christianity is what you practice). I'm not religious at all... tbh if I step I church I would explode. X Oh "Still haven't answers my question, what is wrong with schools serving halal meat? Do we force Hindus to eat beef and Jewish people to eat pork just to prove we are British? I think not. I am a vegetarian, and I would imagine you would force me to eat meat too?? | |||
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"People are terrified off upsetting someone or some group. My old fella is in hospital at the moment and a couple of days ago and my mum took him a little greek orthodox icon..Two little pictures of saints hinged together that you stand up somewhere. I found he had it closed and lay down in his cabinet and when I asked why he told me he didn't wish to offend anyone. That made me quite sad and a little annoyed that anyone should feel that way and I stood it up next to his bed and there it proudly remains. nobody should hide their beliefs from anyone else...there's room here for them all. Who do you think he was most worried about offending?" Fellow patients and staff I'd imagine. He didn't specify a group | |||
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"England sounds a horrible place to live Especially if you are a fish nah it just sounds confused angry n naff which is sad btw That bout sums it up lol x We accept all race and religions that's not a problem but others don't accept ours. Xxxx That is not correct though is it. Can you actually name 1 race or religion that is not here in England??? We have built mosques, we allow other religions to have a extra break at work so they can prey if they need wish to... we allow women to wear berkas in public and cover their face ( yet if a biker went into a shop with helmet on they would have to remove it) We allow halal meat to be produced over here for religious reasons... Even school are serving halal meat . X" We???? Who exactly is this we you speak of? | |||
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"People are terrified off upsetting someone or some group. My old fella is in hospital at the moment and a couple of days ago and my mum took him a little greek orthodox icon..Two little pictures of saints hinged together that you stand up somewhere. I found he had it closed and lay down in his cabinet and when I asked why he told me he didn't wish to offend anyone. That made me quite sad and a little annoyed that anyone should feel that way and I stood it up next to his bed and there it proudly remains. nobody should hide their beliefs from anyone else...there's room here for them all." He should put it for all to see. I believe no1 should be ashamed or hide their religions just like you xx hope he gets well soon xxxxx | |||
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"England sounds a horrible place to live Especially if you are a fish nah it just sounds confused angry n naff which is sad btw That bout sums it up lol x We accept all race and religions that's not a problem but others don't accept ours. Xxxx That is not correct though is it. Can you actually name 1 race or religion that is not here in England??? We have built mosques, we allow other religions to have a extra break at work so they can prey if they need wish to... we allow women to wear berkas in public and cover their face ( yet if a biker went into a shop with helmet on they would have to remove it) We allow halal meat to be produced over here for religious reasons... Even school are serving halal meat . X We???? Who exactly is this we you speak of? " A hell of a lot of people ( including me) except those who protest against it x | |||
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"People are terrified off upsetting someone or some group. My old fella is in hospital at the moment and a couple of days ago and my mum took him a little greek orthodox icon..Two little pictures of saints hinged together that you stand up somewhere. I found he had it closed and lay down in his cabinet and when I asked why he told me he didn't wish to offend anyone. That made me quite sad and a little annoyed that anyone should feel that way and I stood it up next to his bed and there it proudly remains. nobody should hide their beliefs from anyone else...there's room here for them all. Who do you think he was most worried about offending? Fellow patients and staff I'd imagine. He didn't specify a group " 3 | |||
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"England sounds a horrible place to live Especially if you are a fish nah it just sounds confused angry n naff which is sad btw That bout sums it up lol x We accept all race and religions that's not a problem but others don't accept ours. Xxxx That is not correct though is it. Can you actually name 1 race or religion that is not here in England??? We have built mosques, we allow other religions to have a extra break at work so they can prey if they need wish to... we allow women to wear berkas in public and cover their face ( yet if a biker went into a shop with helmet on they would have to remove it) We allow halal meat to be produced over here for religious reasons... Even school are serving halal meat . X We???? Who exactly is this we you speak of? A hell of a lot of people ( including me) except those who protest against it x " Did you help to build a mosque, or are on the governing body of a school, or the local council who decides what kids get to choose to eat? Only the white British are allowed to decide on these things now? Everyone else who lives here is disenfranchised? How many years of British pedigree do you need to become one of these so called elite? | |||
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"Bah bah black sheep is now rainbow sheep Happy Christmas is happy holidays Now easter eggs are just chocolate eggs.... What ever next??? " | |||
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"You got the lefties really mad now lol" If thinking people have equal rights and some respect, and we actually have a brain to think about it, then I am proud to be a leftie. In fact, I am embarrassed for anyone who holds such crazy views. To be honest, I think its divisive to air them .... | |||
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"You got the lefties really mad now lol If thinking people have equal rights and some respect, and we actually have a brain to think about it, then I am proud to be a leftie. In fact, I am embarrassed for anyone who holds such crazy views. To be honest, I think its divisive to air them .... " A lot of projection there | |||
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"England sounds a horrible place to live Especially if you are a fish nah it just sounds confused angry n naff which is sad btw That bout sums it up lol x We accept all race and religions that's not a problem but others don't accept ours. Xxxx That is not correct though is it. Can you actually name 1 race or religion that is not here in England??? We have built mosques, we allow other religions to have a extra break at work so they can prey if they need wish to... we allow women to wear berkas in public and cover their face ( yet if a biker went into a shop with helmet on they would have to remove it) We allow halal meat to be produced over here for religious reasons... Even school are serving halal meat . X We???? Who exactly is this we you speak of? A hell of a lot of people ( including me) except those who protest against it x Did you help to build a mosque, or are on the governing body of a school, or the local council who decides what kids get to choose to eat? Only the white British are allowed to decide on these things now? Everyone else who lives here is disenfranchised? How many years of British pedigree do you need to become one of these so called elite?" I'm 100 % English.. I've allowed it because I don't disagree with it because I'm not rasist. My argument is why should we change the way we say and do things as a country incase it upsets other religions... if we went over to Pakistan and went on beach with a bikini on we would get frowned up on we just wouldn't do it out of respect. That's just an example... | |||
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"Yes, what *IS* the country coming to? So much propaganda, paranoia and hate "Totally agree, and easy to spout nonsense when you aren't living with it every day. Multicultural community here and we work at community cohesion for the good of the future of the country ... take the 'let's ban everything and make them take on our culture' brigade, and I am talking about the so called 'right' ... what is the logical extreme of your views? Can you live with it? | |||
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"England sounds a horrible place to live Especially if you are a fish nah it just sounds confused angry n naff which is sad btw That bout sums it up lol x We accept all race and religions that's not a problem but others don't accept ours. Xxxx That is not correct though is it. Can you actually name 1 race or religion that is not here in England??? We have built mosques, we allow other religions to have a extra break at work so they can prey if they need wish to... we allow women to wear berkas in public and cover their face ( yet if a biker went into a shop with helmet on they would have to remove it) We allow halal meat to be produced over here for religious reasons... Even school are serving halal meat . X We???? Who exactly is this we you speak of? A hell of a lot of people ( including me) except those who protest against it x Did you help to build a mosque, or are on the governing body of a school, or the local council who decides what kids get to choose to eat? Only the white British are allowed to decide on these things now? Everyone else who lives here is disenfranchised? How many years of British pedigree do you need to become one of these so called elite? I'm 100 % English.. I've allowed it because I don't disagree with it because I'm not rasist. My argument is why should we change the way we say and do things as a country incase it upsets other religions... if we went over to Pakistan and went on beach with a bikini on we would get frowned up on we just wouldn't do it out of respect. That's just an example... " What is 100% English? Out of respect, you would demand Muslim women shouldn't be veiled? How is that respectful? Forcing them to disrobe? It is actually akin to forcing them to wear a bikini ... but they should do it? Really, what's the harm in live and let live? Any intelligent discussion on radicalisation now includes the view that marginalising certain groups, disenfranchising them can cause major problems. | |||
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"Yes, what *IS* the country coming to? So much propaganda, paranoia and hate "I'm not religious in anyway... I have religious friends of all colours and races they respect my views and I respect theirs. Why should we as a country change the way we do things and have done for 1000s of years to keep others who come to live here happy.. we wouldn't move over there and except them them change x | |||
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"England sounds a horrible place to live Especially if you are a fish nah it just sounds confused angry n naff which is sad btw That bout sums it up lol x We accept all race and religions that's not a problem but others don't accept ours. Xxxx That is not correct though is it. Can you actually name 1 race or religion that is not here in England??? We have built mosques, we allow other religions to have a extra break at work so they can prey if they need wish to... we allow women to wear berkas in public and cover their face ( yet if a biker went into a shop with helmet on they would have to remove it) We allow halal meat to be produced over here for religious reasons... Even school are serving halal meat . X We???? Who exactly is this we you speak of? A hell of a lot of people ( including me) except those who protest against it x Did you help to build a mosque, or are on the governing body of a school, or the local council who decides what kids get to choose to eat? Only the white British are allowed to decide on these things now? Everyone else who lives here is disenfranchised? How many years of British pedigree do you need to become one of these so called elite? I'm 100 % English.. I've allowed it because I don't disagree with it because I'm not rasist. My argument is why should we change the way we say and do things as a country incase it upsets other religions... if we went over to Pakistan and went on beach with a bikini on we would get frowned up on we just wouldn't do it out of respect. That's just an example... What is 100% English? Out of respect, you would demand Muslim women shouldn't be veiled? How is that respectful? Forcing them to disrobe? It is actually akin to forcing them to wear a bikini ... but they should do it? Really, what's the harm in live and let live? Any intelligent discussion on radicalisation now includes the view that marginalising certain groups, disenfranchising them can cause major problems. " Then can wear what they like for all I care... but yet they are allowed to cover their face in places like banks ect amd no1 batters a eye lid... but if a English woman went I with a bike helmet on they would get asked to remove it so that their face could be seen for security reasons.... | |||
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"People are terrified off upsetting someone or some group. Im not rasist in the slightest but why should we change our British holidays in Britain to suit others.. if British people moved to another country we would have to like or lump theirs xx " "I'm not racist,but"....is generally followed by a racist sentiment....this doesn't excuse you for stating racist views....have you actually ever been abroad to anywhere where there are British people who haven't exactly just "liked and lumped it" ...look at Spain and countless other holiday locations where resorts have blighted the local landmark providing brits with British culture,music,food,accomodation.....so your argument doesn't really stand up there mate....life is all about change....nothing ever stays the same no matter how much we would like it to ....open your mind and resist the urge to blame others for things in life that threaten to put you outside of your comfort zone  | |||
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" Why should we as a country change the way we do things and have done for 1000s of years to keep others who come to live here happy.. we wouldn't move over there and except them them change x" http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2205372/English-landlord-pulled-gun-customers-village-pub-tried-order-drinks-Welsh.html | |||
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"Yes, what *IS* the country coming to? So much propaganda, paranoia and hate
I'm not religious in anyway... I have religious friends of all colours and races they respect my views and I respect theirs.
Why should we as a country change the way we do things and have done for 1000s of years to keep others who come to live here happy.. we wouldn't move over there and except them them change x"Have we honestly done things the same was for thousands of years though? If I talk to my parents, they will say that we do things differently than in their day, and things are certainly done differently than when I was a child. Its simply not true that things have been the same for thousands of years until now ... allowing people to follow their faith is not the same as saying we have to change what we do ... there isn't only halal meat on the menu at schools, there are other choices too. But are you saying there shouldn't be any other choice than the right one, which is the same one we have been making for thousands of years? What exactly were children eating at school a thousand years ago anyway? What exactly were women wearing thousands of years ago? Where were people worshipping thousands of years ago? | |||
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"Yes, what *IS* the country coming to? So much propaganda, paranoia and hate
I'm not religious in anyway... I have religious friends of all colours and races they respect my views and I respect theirs.
Why should we as a country change the way we do things and have done for 1000s of years to keep others who come to live here happy.. we wouldn't move over there and except them them change x"Er, you do realise that at one time we controlled the 25% of the world and 20% of it's people and imposed our ways on them to their very great detriment? We were responsible for MILLIONS of deaths, some in absolutely horrific conditions over the last 100-120 years. Even in 1960ish we were still doing the same shit. So yeah, perhaps it's time the British stopped trying to dictate to others how to do things, and allow a bit of diversity. Nobody is really telling us we can no longer celebrate Christmas or have Christmas trees. That's mostly propaganda designed to manipulate you. More fool you for believing it. | |||
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"England sounds a horrible place to live Especially if you are a fish nah it just sounds confused angry n naff which is sad btw That bout sums it up lol x We accept all race and religions that's not a problem but others don't accept ours. Xxxx That is not correct though is it. Can you actually name 1 race or religion that is not here in England??? We have built mosques, we allow other religions to have a extra break at work so they can prey if they need wish to... we allow women to wear berkas in public and cover their face ( yet if a biker went into a shop with helmet on they would have to remove it) We allow halal meat to be produced over here for religious reasons... Even school are serving halal meat . X We???? Who exactly is this we you speak of? A hell of a lot of people ( including me) except those who protest against it x Did you help to build a mosque, or are on the governing body of a school, or the local council who decides what kids get to choose to eat? Only the white British are allowed to decide on these things now? Everyone else who lives here is disenfranchised? How many years of British pedigree do you need to become one of these so called elite? I'm 100 % English.. I've allowed it because I don't disagree with it because I'm not rasist. My argument is why should we change the way we say and do things as a country incase it upsets other religions... if we went over to Pakistan and went on beach with a bikini on we would get frowned up on we just wouldn't do it out of respect. That's just an example... What is 100% English? Out of respect, you would demand Muslim women shouldn't be veiled? How is that respectful? Forcing them to disrobe? It is actually akin to forcing them to wear a bikini ... but they should do it? Really, what's the harm in live and let live? Any intelligent discussion on radicalisation now includes the view that marginalising certain groups, disenfranchising them can cause major problems. Then can wear what they like for all I care... but yet they are allowed to cover their face in places like banks ect amd no1 batters a eye lid... but if a English woman went I with a bike helmet on they would get asked to remove it so that their face could be seen for security reasons...." How about an English woman wearing a Burqa? Hardly the same as a bike helmet ... if you have any idea of the significance or meaning. But why would you? | |||
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"People are terrified off upsetting someone or some group. Im not rasist in the slightest but why should we change our British holidays in Britain to suit others.. if British people moved to another country we would have to like or lump theirs xx "I'm not racist,but"....is generally followed by a racist sentiment....this doesn't excuse you for stating racist views....have you actually ever been abroad to anywhere where there are British people who haven't exactly just "liked and lumped it" ...look at Spain and countless other holiday locations where resorts have blighted the local landmark providing brits with British culture,music,food,accomodation.....so your argument doesn't really stand up there mate....life is all about change....nothing ever stays the same no matter how much we would like it to ....open your mind and resist the urge to blame others for things in life that threaten to put you outside of your comfort zone "A lot of Spain is holidays resorts. I have family who live in Spain. They live by the Spanish way and wouldn't expect them to change... | |||
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"England sounds a horrible place to live Especially if you are a fish nah it just sounds confused angry n naff which is sad btw That bout sums it up lol x We accept all race and religions that's not a problem but others don't accept ours. Xxxx That is not correct though is it. Can you actually name 1 race or religion that is not here in England??? We have built mosques, we allow other religions to have a extra break at work so they can prey if they need wish to... we allow women to wear berkas in public and cover their face ( yet if a biker went into a shop with helmet on they would have to remove it) We allow halal meat to be produced over here for religious reasons... Even school are serving halal meat . X We???? Who exactly is this we you speak of? A hell of a lot of people ( including me) except those who protest against it x Did you help to build a mosque, or are on the governing body of a school, or the local council who decides what kids get to choose to eat? Only the white British are allowed to decide on these things now? Everyone else who lives here is disenfranchised? How many years of British pedigree do you need to become one of these so called elite? I'm 100 % English.. I've allowed it because I don't disagree with it because I'm not rasist. My argument is why should we change the way we say and do things as a country incase it upsets other religions... if we went over to Pakistan and went on beach with a bikini on we would get frowned up on we just wouldn't do it out of respect. That's just an example... What is 100% English? Out of respect, you would demand Muslim women shouldn't be veiled? How is that respectful? Forcing them to disrobe? It is actually akin to forcing them to wear a bikini ... but they should do it? Really, what's the harm in live and let live? Any intelligent discussion on radicalisation now includes the view that marginalising certain groups, disenfranchising them can cause major problems. Then can wear what they like for all I care... but yet they are allowed to cover their face in places like banks ect amd no1 batters a eye lid... but if a English woman went I with a bike helmet on they would get asked to remove it so that their face could be seen for security reasons.... How about an English woman wearing a Burqa? Hardly the same as a bike helmet ... if you have any idea of the significance or meaning. But why would you?" But surely it's the same security risk with the face being covered.. How can they provide photo id if their face is covered they could be anyone. | |||
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"England sounds a horrible place to live Especially if you are a fish nah it just sounds confused angry n naff which is sad btw That bout sums it up lol x We accept all race and religions that's not a problem but others don't accept ours. Xxxx That is not correct though is it. Can you actually name 1 race or religion that is not here in England??? We have built mosques, we allow other religions to have a extra break at work so they can prey if they need wish to... we allow women to wear berkas in public and cover their face ( yet if a biker went into a shop with helmet on they would have to remove it) We allow halal meat to be produced over here for religious reasons... Even school are serving halal meat . X We???? Who exactly is this we you speak of? A hell of a lot of people ( including me) except those who protest against it x " Oh where do i start... Haha you didn't build anything especially a not a mosque you have no say in work place policies for the whole country you certainly have no say in what anyone wears no matter where there from or what they believe in And nobody seeks your permission before starting production on halal meat Think that about covers it | |||
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"England sounds a horrible place to live Especially if you are a fish nah it just sounds confused angry n naff which is sad btw That bout sums it up lol x We accept all race and religions that's not a problem but others don't accept ours. Xxxx That is not correct though is it. Can you actually name 1 race or religion that is not here in England??? We have built mosques, we allow other religions to have a extra break at work so they can prey if they need wish to... we allow women to wear berkas in public and cover their face ( yet if a biker went into a shop with helmet on they would have to remove it) We allow halal meat to be produced over here for religious reasons... Even school are serving halal meat . X We???? Who exactly is this we you speak of? A hell of a lot of people ( including me) except those who protest against it x Did you help to build a mosque, or are on the governing body of a school, or the local council who decides what kids get to choose to eat? Only the white British are allowed to decide on these things now? Everyone else who lives here is disenfranchised? How many years of British pedigree do you need to become one of these so called elite? I'm 100 % English.. I've allowed it because I don't disagree with it because I'm not rasist. My argument is why should we change the way we say and do things as a country incase it upsets other religions... if we went over to Pakistan and went on beach with a bikini on we would get frowned up on we just wouldn't do it out of respect. That's just an example... What is 100% English? Out of respect, you would demand Muslim women shouldn't be veiled? How is that respectful? Forcing them to disrobe? It is actually akin to forcing them to wear a bikini ... but they should do it? Really, what's the harm in live and let live? Any intelligent discussion on radicalisation now includes the view that marginalising certain groups, disenfranchising them can cause major problems. Then can wear what they like for all I care... but yet they are allowed to cover their face in places like banks ect amd no1 batters a eye lid... but if a English woman went I with a bike helmet on they would get asked to remove it so that their face could be seen for security reasons.... How about an English woman wearing a Burqa? Hardly the same as a bike helmet ... if you have any idea of the significance or meaning. But why would you? But surely it's the same security risk with the face being covered.. How can they provide photo id if their face is covered they could be anyone. " Why would you need to wear a helmet in a bank though? | |||
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"England sounds a horrible place to live Especially if you are a fish nah it just sounds confused angry n naff which is sad btw That bout sums it up lol x We accept all race and religions that's not a problem but others don't accept ours. Xxxx That is not correct though is it. Can you actually name 1 race or religion that is not here in England??? We have built mosques, we allow other religions to have a extra break at work so they can prey if they need wish to... we allow women to wear berkas in public and cover their face ( yet if a biker went into a shop with helmet on they would have to remove it) We allow halal meat to be produced over here for religious reasons... Even school are serving halal meat . X We???? Who exactly is this we you speak of? A hell of a lot of people ( including me) except those who protest against it x Oh where do i start... Haha you didn't build anything especially a not a mosque you have no say in work place policies for the whole country you certainly have no say in what anyone wears no matter where there from or what they believe in And nobody seeks your permission before starting production on halal meat Think that about covers it "When did I say I built a mosque, or I have a say in work policy or what people wear or that they need my permission to produce halal meat.... What I'm saying is that we have changed our ways as a country so we dont upset or insult other races and religions who come over here... but yet if we went over there would they do the same?? | |||
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"England sounds a horrible place to live Especially if you are a fish nah it just sounds confused angry n naff which is sad btw That bout sums it up lol x We accept all race and religions that's not a problem but others don't accept ours. Xxxx That is not correct though is it. Can you actually name 1 race or religion that is not here in England??? We have built mosques, we allow other religions to have a extra break at work so they can prey if they need wish to... we allow women to wear berkas in public and cover their face ( yet if a biker went into a shop with helmet on they would have to remove it) We allow halal meat to be produced over here for religious reasons... Even school are serving halal meat . X We???? Who exactly is this we you speak of? A hell of a lot of people ( including me) except those who protest against it x Did you help to build a mosque, or are on the governing body of a school, or the local council who decides what kids get to choose to eat? Only the white British are allowed to decide on these things now? Everyone else who lives here is disenfranchised? How many years of British pedigree do you need to become one of these so called elite? I'm 100 % English.. I've allowed it because I don't disagree with it because I'm not rasist. My argument is why should we change the way we say and do things as a country incase it upsets other religions... if we went over to Pakistan and went on beach with a bikini on we would get frowned up on we just wouldn't do it out of respect. That's just an example... What is 100% English? Out of respect, you would demand Muslim women shouldn't be veiled? How is that respectful? Forcing them to disrobe? It is actually akin to forcing them to wear a bikini ... but they should do it? Really, what's the harm in live and let live? Any intelligent discussion on radicalisation now includes the view that marginalising certain groups, disenfranchising them can cause major problems. Then can wear what they like for all I care... but yet they are allowed to cover their face in places like banks ect amd no1 batters a eye lid... but if a English woman went I with a bike helmet on they would get asked to remove it so that their face could be seen for security reasons.... How about an English woman wearing a Burqa? Hardly the same as a bike helmet ... if you have any idea of the significance or meaning. But why would you? But surely it's the same security risk with the face being covered.. How can they provide photo id if their face is covered they could be anyone. Why would you need to wear a helmet in a bank though? " Sometimes it's easier to leave on if your only popping in n out to save carrying it. | |||
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let he who is without sin cast the first stone! The meek shall inherit the earth....and all this over a bloody easter egg....the world has gone mad....lets light our torches and grab our pitchforks and form a lynch mob for folk coz they're responsible for changing the name of an easter egg lol | |||
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"Yes, what *IS* the country coming to? So much propaganda, paranoia and hate
I'm not religious in anyway... I have religious friends of all colours and races they respect my views and I respect theirs.
Why should we as a country change the way we do things and have done for 1000s of years to keep others who come to live here happy.. we wouldn't move over there and except them them change x
Er, you do realise that at one time we controlled the 25% of the world and 20% of it's people and imposed our ways on them to their very great detriment? We were responsible for MILLIONS of deaths, some in absolutely horrific conditions over the last 100-120 years. Even in 1960ish we were still doing the same shit.
So yeah, perhaps it's time the British stopped trying to dictate to others how to do things, and allow a bit of diversity.
Nobody is really telling us we can no longer celebrate Christmas or have Christmas trees. That's mostly propaganda designed to manipulate you. More fool you for believing it." | |||
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"http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/worst-atrocities-british-empire-amritsar-boer-war-concentration-camp-mau-mau-a6821756.html 1. Boer concentration camps During the Second Boer War (1899-1902), the British rounded up around a sixth of the Boer population - mainly women and children - and detained them in camps, which were overcrowded and prone to outbreaks of disease, with scant food rations. Of the 107,000 people interned in the camps, 27,927 Boers died, along with an unknown number of black Africans. 2. Amritsar massacre When peaceful protesters defied a government order and demonstrated against British colonial rule in Amritsar, India, on 13 April 1919, they were blocked inside the walled Jallianwala Gardens and fired upon by Gurkha soldiers. The soldiers, under the orders of Brigadier Reginald Dyer, kept firing until they ran out of ammunition, killing between 379 and 1,000 protesters and injuring another 1,100 within 10 minutes. Brigadier Dyer was later lauded a hero by the British public, who raised £26,000 for him as a thank you. 3. Partitioning of India In 1947, Cyril Radcliffe was tasked with drawing the border between India and the newly created state of Pakistan over the course of a single lunch. After Cyril Radcliffe split the subcontinent along religious lines, uprooting over 10 million people, Hindus in Pakistan and Muslims in India were forced to escape their homes as the situation quickly descended into violence. Some estimates suggest up to one million people lost their lives in sectarian killings. 4. Mau Mau Uprising Thousands of elderly Kenyans, who claim British colonial forces mistreated, raped and tortured them during the Mau Mau Uprising (1951-1960), have launched a £200m damages claim against the UK Government. Members of the Kikuyu tribe were detained in camps, since described as "Britain's gulags" or concentration camps, where they allege they were systematically tortured and suffered serious sexual assault. Estimates of the deaths vary widely: historian David Anderson estimates there were 20,000, whereas Caroline Elkins believes up to 100,000 could have died. 5. Famines in India Between 12 and 29 million Indians died of starvation while it was under the control of the British Empire, as millions of tons of wheat were exported to Britain as famine raged in India. In 1943, up to four million Bengalis starved to death when Winston Churchill diverted food to British soldiers and countries such as Greece while a deadly famine swept through Bengal. Talking about the Bengal famine in 1943, Churchill said: “I hate Indians. They are a beastly people with a beastly religion. The famine was their own fault for breeding like rabbits.”" Yes, but some darker skinned cavemen beat up some lighter skinned cavemen 4000 years ago. Where's the justice for them? How far do you want to go back to lay blame? Stop living in the past and work towards a better future. | |||
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"England sounds a horrible place to live Especially if you are a fish nah it just sounds confused angry n naff which is sad btw That bout sums it up lol x We accept all race and religions that's not a problem but others don't accept ours. Xxxx That is not correct though is it. Can you actually name 1 race or religion that is not here in England??? We have built mosques, we allow other religions to have a extra break at work so they can prey if they need wish to... we allow women to wear berkas in public and cover their face ( yet if a biker went into a shop with helmet on they would have to remove it) We allow halal meat to be produced over here for religious reasons... Even school are serving halal meat . X We???? Who exactly is this we you speak of? A hell of a lot of people ( including me) except those who protest against it x Oh where do i start... Haha you didn't build anything especially a not a mosque you have no say in work place policies for the whole country you certainly have no say in what anyone wears no matter where there from or what they believe in And nobody seeks your permission before starting production on halal meat Think that about covers it
When did I say I built a mosque, or I have a say in work policy or what people wear or that they need my permission to produce halal meat....
What I'm saying is that we have changed our ways as a country so we dont upset or insult other races and religions who come over here... but yet if we went over there would they do the same??
"I think if you read back through the thread, a number of people have said that we impose our culture on others, wherever we are, and we. have a long track record of it. I think change is good, as in life we learn from others and adapt our views, that is what being tolerant is all about. To be honest though, a number of people certainly haven't changed their ways and resent the fact that they might have to .... | |||
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"The irony of this post is that the op is blatantly complaining about immigrants/foreigners coming here and changing the cultures and customs of England ....but the op fails to realize that Christianity didn't exactly have it's roots in England....so we're celebrating the life and time's of a Syrian radical hippy outlaw of his time that hung around with a gang of prostitutes,thieves,cripples,diseased,blind and sinners in general who stirred up things at the time and caused a social revolution that's influenced billions of people for 2000 years after his 33 years on this mortal coil...what else is ironic is that it's not exactly very Christian to judge others and not to open our arms and homes and offer a refuge to our fellow man as we're all brothers and sisters ...back in the days you'd get stoned for your non Christian characteristic traits let he who is without sin cast the first stone! The meek shall inherit the earth....and all this over a bloody easter egg....the world has gone mad....lets light our torches and grab our pitchforks and form a lynch mob for folk coz they're responsible for changing the name of an easter egg lol "My point is why should we change names of things to keep others happy?? | |||
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"The irony of this post is that the op is blatantly complaining about immigrants/foreigners coming here and changing the cultures and customs of England ....but the op fails to realize that Christianity didn't exactly have it's roots in England....so we're celebrating the life and time's of a Syrian radical hippy outlaw of his time that hung around with a gang of prostitutes,thieves,cripples,diseased,blind and sinners in general who stirred up things at the time and caused a social revolution that's influenced billions of people for 2000 years after his 33 years on this mortal coil...what else is ironic is that it's not exactly very Christian to judge others and not to open our arms and homes and offer a refuge to our fellow man as we're all brothers and sisters ...back in the days you'd get stoned for your non Christian characteristic traits let he who is without sin cast the first stone! The meek shall inherit the earth....and all this over a bloody easter egg....the world has gone mad....lets light our torches and grab our pitchforks and form a lynch mob for folk coz they're responsible for changing the name of an easter egg lol "People still get stoned nowadays in the Middle East lol | |||
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"England sounds a horrible place to live Especially if you are a fish nah it just sounds confused angry n naff which is sad btw That bout sums it up lol x We accept all race and religions that's not a problem but others don't accept ours. Xxxx That is not correct though is it. Can you actually name 1 race or religion that is not here in England??? We have built mosques, we allow other religions to have a extra break at work so they can prey if they need wish to... we allow women to wear berkas in public and cover their face ( yet if a biker went into a shop with helmet on they would have to remove it) We allow halal meat to be produced over here for religious reasons... Even school are serving halal meat . X We???? Who exactly is this we you speak of? A hell of a lot of people ( including me) except those who protest against it x Oh where do i start... Haha you didn't build anything especially a not a mosque you have no say in work place policies for the whole country you certainly have no say in what anyone wears no matter where there from or what they believe in And nobody seeks your permission before starting production on halal meat Think that about covers it
When did I say I built a mosque, or I have a say in work policy or what people wear or that they need my permission to produce halal meat....
What I'm saying is that we have changed our ways as a country so we dont upset or insult other races and religions who come over here... but yet if we went over there would they do the same??
I think if you read back through the thread, a number of people have said that we impose our culture on others, wherever we are, and we. have a long track record of it. I think change is good, as in life we learn from others and adapt our views, that is what being tolerant is all about. To be honest though, a number of people certainly haven't changed their ways and resent the fact that they might have to .... "But if people want to come and live here isn't it right they except our cultures and not expect us to change it to suit them? | |||
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"The irony of this post is that the op is blatantly complaining about immigrants/foreigners coming here and changing the cultures and customs of England ....but the op fails to realize that Christianity didn't exactly have it's roots in England....so we're celebrating the life and time's of a Syrian radical hippy outlaw of his time that hung around with a gang of prostitutes,thieves,cripples,diseased,blind and sinners in general who stirred up things at the time and caused a social revolution that's influenced billions of people for 2000 years after his 33 years on this mortal coil...what else is ironic is that it's not exactly very Christian to judge others and not to open our arms and homes and offer a refuge to our fellow man as we're all brothers and sisters ...back in the days you'd get stoned for your non Christian characteristic traits let he who is without sin cast the first stone! The meek shall inherit the earth....and all this over a bloody easter egg....the world has gone mad....lets light our torches and grab our pitchforks and form a lynch mob for folk coz they're responsible for changing the name of an easter egg lol
My point is why should we change names of things to keep others happy??
"If something makes someone else happy, and its no skin off. my nose, then I would do it. If its something more important to them, fundamental to their beliefs, then why not? My mum eats meat but cooks me a veggie dinner. she doesn't believe in it, but no skin off her nose, so she cooks one for me. Why be so combative and antagonistic for the sake of it, just to piss everyone off? | |||
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"The irony of this post is that the op is blatantly complaining about immigrants/foreigners coming here and changing the cultures and customs of England ....but the op fails to realize that Christianity didn't exactly have it's roots in England....so we're celebrating the life and time's of a Syrian radical hippy outlaw of his time that hung around with a gang of prostitutes,thieves,cripples,diseased,blind and sinners in general who stirred up things at the time and caused a social revolution that's influenced billions of people for 2000 years after his 33 years on this mortal coil...what else is ironic is that it's not exactly very Christian to judge others and not to open our arms and homes and offer a refuge to our fellow man as we're all brothers and sisters ...back in the days you'd get stoned for your non Christian characteristic traits let he who is without sin cast the first stone! The meek shall inherit the earth....and all this over a bloody easter egg....the world has gone mad....lets light our torches and grab our pitchforks and form a lynch mob for folk coz they're responsible for changing the name of an easter egg lol
My point is why should we change names of things to keep others happy??
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"http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/worst-atrocities-british-empire-amritsar-boer-war-concentration-camp-mau-mau-a6821756.html 1. Boer concentration camps During the Second Boer War (1899-1902), the British rounded up around a sixth of the Boer population - mainly women and children - and detained them in camps, which were overcrowded and prone to outbreaks of disease, with scant food rations. Of the 107,000 people interned in the camps, 27,927 Boers died, along with an unknown number of black Africans. 2. Amritsar massacre When peaceful protesters defied a government order and demonstrated against British colonial rule in Amritsar, India, on 13 April 1919, they were blocked inside the walled Jallianwala Gardens and fired upon by Gurkha soldiers. The soldiers, under the orders of Brigadier Reginald Dyer, kept firing until they ran out of ammunition, killing between 379 and 1,000 protesters and injuring another 1,100 within 10 minutes. Brigadier Dyer was later lauded a hero by the British public, who raised £26,000 for him as a thank you. 3. Partitioning of India In 1947, Cyril Radcliffe was tasked with drawing the border between India and the newly created state of Pakistan over the course of a single lunch. After Cyril Radcliffe split the subcontinent along religious lines, uprooting over 10 million people, Hindus in Pakistan and Muslims in India were forced to escape their homes as the situation quickly descended into violence. Some estimates suggest up to one million people lost their lives in sectarian killings. 4. Mau Mau Uprising Thousands of elderly Kenyans, who claim British colonial forces mistreated, raped and tortured them during the Mau Mau Uprising (1951-1960), have launched a £200m damages claim against the UK Government. Members of the Kikuyu tribe were detained in camps, since described as "Britain's gulags" or concentration camps, where they allege they were systematically tortured and suffered serious sexual assault. Estimates of the deaths vary widely: historian David Anderson estimates there were 20,000, whereas Caroline Elkins believes up to 100,000 could have died. 5. Famines in India Between 12 and 29 million Indians died of starvation while it was under the control of the British Empire, as millions of tons of wheat were exported to Britain as famine raged in India. In 1943, up to four million Bengalis starved to death when Winston Churchill diverted food to British soldiers and countries such as Greece while a deadly famine swept through Bengal. Talking about the Bengal famine in 1943, Churchill said: “I hate Indians. They are a beastly people with a beastly religion. The famine was their own fault for breeding like rabbits.” Yes, but some darker skinned cavemen beat up some lighter skinned cavemen 4000 years ago. Where's the justice for them? How far do you want to go back to lay blame? Stop living in the past and work towards a better future." I'm not living in the past, I'm suggesting we LEARN from the past. The claim is being made in posts above that we wouldn't go abroad and expect them to adopt our ways. I think the above examples, which are far from being the only ones, demonstrate that isn't true at all. | |||
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"England sounds a horrible place to live Especially if you are a fish nah it just sounds confused angry n naff which is sad btw That bout sums it up lol x We accept all race and religions that's not a problem but others don't accept ours. Xxxx That is not correct though is it. Can you actually name 1 race or religion that is not here in England??? We have built mosques, we allow other religions to have a extra break at work so they can prey if they need wish to... we allow women to wear berkas in public and cover their face ( yet if a biker went into a shop with helmet on they would have to remove it) We allow halal meat to be produced over here for religious reasons... Even school are serving halal meat . X We???? Who exactly is this we you speak of? A hell of a lot of people ( including me) except those who protest against it x Oh where do i start... Haha you didn't build anything especially a not a mosque you have no say in work place policies for the whole country you certainly have no say in what anyone wears no matter where there from or what they believe in And nobody seeks your permission before starting production on halal meat Think that about covers it
When did I say I built a mosque, or I have a say in work policy or what people wear or that they need my permission to produce halal meat....
What I'm saying is that we have changed our ways as a country so we dont upset or insult other races and religions who come over here... but yet if we went over there would they do the same??
I think if you read back through the thread, a number of people have said that we impose our culture on others, wherever we are, and we. have a long track record of it. I think change is good, as in life we learn from others and adapt our views, that is what being tolerant is all about. To be honest though, a number of people certainly haven't changed their ways and resent the fact that they might have to ....
But if people want to come and live here isn't it right they except our cultures and not expect us to change it to suit them? "What exactly is our culture, though? This culture 'they' are supposed to accept? Is it what you believe or what I believe? Can you put your finger on what British culture is? Even take a look at British values schools promote ... this includes tolerance and acceptance. If you look behind the labels of many of the world faiths, the behaviours and beliefs are fundamental and similar .... obligations to others, care, thoughtfulness, looking after the earth, etc. One person's view of 'our culture' is certainly not everyone's ... | |||
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"England sounds a horrible place to live Especially if you are a fish nah it just sounds confused angry n naff which is sad btw That bout sums it up lol x We accept all race and religions that's not a problem but others don't accept ours. Xxxx That is not correct though is it. Can you actually name 1 race or religion that is not here in England??? We have built mosques, we allow other religions to have a extra break at work so they can prey if they need wish to... we allow women to wear berkas in public and cover their face ( yet if a biker went into a shop with helmet on they would have to remove it) We allow halal meat to be produced over here for religious reasons... Even school are serving halal meat . X We???? Who exactly is this we you speak of? A hell of a lot of people ( including me) except those who protest against it x Oh where do i start... Haha you didn't build anything especially a not a mosque you have no say in work place policies for the whole country you certainly have no say in what anyone wears no matter where there from or what they believe in And nobody seeks your permission before starting production on halal meat Think that about covers it
When did I say I built a mosque, or I have a say in work policy or what people wear or that they need my permission to produce halal meat....
What I'm saying is that we have changed our ways as a country so we dont upset or insult other races and religions who come over here... but yet if we went over there would they do the same??
I think if you read back through the thread, a number of people have said that we impose our culture on others, wherever we are, and we. have a long track record of it. I think change is good, as in life we learn from others and adapt our views, that is what being tolerant is all about. To be honest though, a number of people certainly haven't changed their ways and resent the fact that they might have to ....
But if people want to come and live here isn't it right they except our cultures and not expect us to change it to suit them? "And when we did it to a fifth of the world. Was that right? As I said, with our history, we have room to permit a bit of diversity. It might do us some good, since we're still dropping bombs on several countries. | |||
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"http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/worst-atrocities-british-empire-amritsar-boer-war-concentration-camp-mau-mau-a6821756.html 1. Boer concentration camps During the Second Boer War (1899-1902), the British rounded up around a sixth of the Boer population - mainly women and children - and detained them in camps, which were overcrowded and prone to outbreaks of disease, with scant food rations. Of the 107,000 people interned in the camps, 27,927 Boers died, along with an unknown number of black Africans. 2. Amritsar massacre When peaceful protesters defied a government order and demonstrated against British colonial rule in Amritsar, India, on 13 April 1919, they were blocked inside the walled Jallianwala Gardens and fired upon by Gurkha soldiers. The soldiers, under the orders of Brigadier Reginald Dyer, kept firing until they ran out of ammunition, killing between 379 and 1,000 protesters and injuring another 1,100 within 10 minutes. Brigadier Dyer was later lauded a hero by the British public, who raised £26,000 for him as a thank you. 3. Partitioning of India In 1947, Cyril Radcliffe was tasked with drawing the border between India and the newly created state of Pakistan over the course of a single lunch. After Cyril Radcliffe split the subcontinent along religious lines, uprooting over 10 million people, Hindus in Pakistan and Muslims in India were forced to escape their homes as the situation quickly descended into violence. Some estimates suggest up to one million people lost their lives in sectarian killings. 4. Mau Mau Uprising Thousands of elderly Kenyans, who claim British colonial forces mistreated, raped and tortured them during the Mau Mau Uprising (1951-1960), have launched a £200m damages claim against the UK Government. Members of the Kikuyu tribe were detained in camps, since described as "Britain's gulags" or concentration camps, where they allege they were systematically tortured and suffered serious sexual assault. Estimates of the deaths vary widely: historian David Anderson estimates there were 20,000, whereas Caroline Elkins believes up to 100,000 could have died. 5. Famines in India Between 12 and 29 million Indians died of starvation while it was under the control of the British Empire, as millions of tons of wheat were exported to Britain as famine raged in India. In 1943, up to four million Bengalis starved to death when Winston Churchill diverted food to British soldiers and countries such as Greece while a deadly famine swept through Bengal. Talking about the Bengal famine in 1943, Churchill said: “I hate Indians. They are a beastly people with a beastly religion. The famine was their own fault for breeding like rabbits.” Yes, but some darker skinned cavemen beat up some lighter skinned cavemen 4000 years ago. Where's the justice for them? How far do you want to go back to lay blame? Stop living in the past and work towards a better future. I'm not living in the past, I'm suggesting we LEARN from the past. The claim is being made in posts above that we wouldn't go abroad and expect them to adopt our ways. I think the above examples, which are far from being the only ones, demonstrate that isn't true at all." No, they only demonstrate what happened in the past. Every nation has shit on its shoes. | |||
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"The irony of this post is that the op is blatantly complaining about immigrants/foreigners coming here and changing the cultures and customs of England ....but the op fails to realize that Christianity didn't exactly have it's roots in England....so we're celebrating the life and time's of a Syrian radical hippy outlaw of his time that hung around with a gang of prostitutes,thieves,cripples,diseased,blind and sinners in general who stirred up things at the time and caused a social revolution that's influenced billions of people for 2000 years after his 33 years on this mortal coil...what else is ironic is that it's not exactly very Christian to judge others and not to open our arms and homes and offer a refuge to our fellow man as we're all brothers and sisters ...back in the days you'd get stoned for your non Christian characteristic traits let he who is without sin cast the first stone! The meek shall inherit the earth....and all this over a bloody easter egg....the world has gone mad....lets light our torches and grab our pitchforks and form a lynch mob for folk coz they're responsible for changing the name of an easter egg lol
My point is why should we change names of things to keep others happy??
If something makes someone else happy, and its no skin off. my nose, then I would do it. If its something more important to them, fundamental to their beliefs, then why not? My mum eats meat but cooks me a veggie dinner. she doesn't believe in it, but no skin off her nose, so she cooks one for me. Why be so combative and antagonistic for the sake of it, just to piss everyone off? "I have many friends all of different races and religions. The except me for who I am and I expect them for who they are. They also understand my views. . why should another country change to suit others.. x | |||
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"England sounds a horrible place to live Especially if you are a fish nah it just sounds confused angry n naff which is sad btw That bout sums it up lol x We accept all race and religions that's not a problem but others don't accept ours. Xxxx That is not correct though is it. Can you actually name 1 race or religion that is not here in England??? We have built mosques, we allow other religions to have a extra break at work so they can prey if they need wish to... we allow women to wear berkas in public and cover their face ( yet if a biker went into a shop with helmet on they would have to remove it) We allow halal meat to be produced over here for religious reasons... Even school are serving halal meat . X We???? Who exactly is this we you speak of? A hell of a lot of people ( including me) except those who protest against it x Oh where do i start... Haha you didn't build anything especially a not a mosque you have no say in work place policies for the whole country you certainly have no say in what anyone wears no matter where there from or what they believe in And nobody seeks your permission before starting production on halal meat Think that about covers it
When did I say I built a mosque, or I have a say in work policy or what people wear or that they need my permission to produce halal meat....
What I'm saying is that we have changed our ways as a country so we dont upset or insult other races and religions who come over here... but yet if we went over there would they do the same??
"you said it all above i even quoted it for you As it has been pointed out to you many times already "Great Britain" did that for years went to many countries and forced change upon them and that is certainly not was is happening to "England" now | |||
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"The irony of this post is that the op is blatantly complaining about immigrants/foreigners coming here and changing the cultures and customs of England ....but the op fails to realize that Christianity didn't exactly have it's roots in England....so we're celebrating the life and time's of a Syrian radical hippy outlaw of his time that hung around with a gang of prostitutes,thieves,cripples,diseased,blind and sinners in general who stirred up things at the time and caused a social revolution that's influenced billions of people for 2000 years after his 33 years on this mortal coil...what else is ironic is that it's not exactly very Christian to judge others and not to open our arms and homes and offer a refuge to our fellow man as we're all brothers and sisters ...back in the days you'd get stoned for your non Christian characteristic traits let he who is without sin cast the first stone! The meek shall inherit the earth....and all this over a bloody easter egg....the world has gone mad....lets light our torches and grab our pitchforks and form a lynch mob for folk coz they're responsible for changing the name of an easter egg lol
My point is why should we change names of things to keep others happy??
If something makes someone else happy, and its no skin off. my nose, then I would do it. If its something more important to them, fundamental to their beliefs, then why not? My mum eats meat but cooks me a veggie dinner. she doesn't believe in it, but no skin off her nose, so she cooks one for me. Why be so combative and antagonistic for the sake of it, just to piss everyone off?
I have many friends all of different races and religions. The except me for who I am and I expect them for who they are. They also understand my views. . why should another country change to suit others.. x"A bit like the British did when they colonized Africa then | |||
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"England sounds a horrible place to live Especially if you are a fish nah it just sounds confused angry n naff which is sad btw That bout sums it up lol x We accept all race and religions that's not a problem but others don't accept ours. Xxxx That is not correct though is it. Can you actually name 1 race or religion that is not here in England??? We have built mosques, we allow other religions to have a extra break at work so they can prey if they need wish to... we allow women to wear berkas in public and cover their face ( yet if a biker went into a shop with helmet on they would have to remove it) We allow halal meat to be produced over here for religious reasons... Even school are serving halal meat . X We???? Who exactly is this we you speak of? A hell of a lot of people ( including me) except those who protest against it x Oh where do i start... Haha you didn't build anything especially a not a mosque you have no say in work place policies for the whole country you certainly have no say in what anyone wears no matter where there from or what they believe in And nobody seeks your permission before starting production on halal meat Think that about covers it
When did I say I built a mosque, or I have a say in work policy or what people wear or that they need my permission to produce halal meat....
What I'm saying is that we have changed our ways as a country so we dont upset or insult other races and religions who come over here... but yet if we went over there would they do the same??
I think if you read back through the thread, a number of people have said that we impose our culture on others, wherever we are, and we. have a long track record of it. I think change is good, as in life we learn from others and adapt our views, that is what being tolerant is all about. To be honest though, a number of people certainly haven't changed their ways and resent the fact that they might have to ....
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"I'm not living in the past, I'm suggesting we LEARN from the past. The claim is being made in posts above that we wouldn't go abroad and expect them to adopt our ways. I think the above examples, which are far from being the only ones, demonstrate that isn't true at all. No, they only demonstrate what happened in the past. Every nation has shit on its shoes." Most didn't over-run 1/4 of the Earth's land and try to enslave and control 1/5 of the people, forcing our ways and culture onto them! We're still dropping bombs on countries that aren't doing things the way we want, despite the fact that last time we did that we created a much bigger shitfest. How anyone can claim we don't impose our views and culture on anyone else is absolutely beyond me. | |||
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"I'm not living in the past, I'm suggesting we LEARN from the past. The claim is being made in posts above that we wouldn't go abroad and expect them to adopt our ways. I think the above examples, which are far from being the only ones, demonstrate that isn't true at all. No, they only demonstrate what happened in the past. Every nation has shit on its shoes. Most didn't over-run 1/4 of the Earth's land and try to enslave and control 1/5 of the people, forcing our ways and culture onto them! We're still dropping bombs on countries that aren't doing things the way we want, despite the fact that last time we did that we created a much bigger shitfest. How anyone can claim we don't impose our views and culture on anyone else is absolutely beyond me." | |||
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"I'm not living in the past, I'm suggesting we LEARN from the past. The claim is being made in posts above that we wouldn't go abroad and expect them to adopt our ways. I think the above examples, which are far from being the only ones, demonstrate that isn't true at all. No, they only demonstrate what happened in the past. Every nation has shit on its shoes. Most didn't over-run 1/4 of the Earth's land and try to enslave and control 1/5 of the people, forcing our ways and culture onto them! We're still dropping bombs on countries that aren't doing things the way we want, despite the fact that last time we did that we created a much bigger shitfest. How anyone can claim we don't impose our views and culture on anyone else is absolutely beyond me." Of course it's beyond you, you don't seem to have much real world experience of the 21st century. | |||
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"I have many friends all of different races and religions. The except me for who I am and I expect them for who they are. They also understand my views. . why should another country change to suit others.. x" so why did "Great Britain" expect so many countries to change to suit them?? | |||
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